They don't force you to get plastic surgery but from the way you described it, they definitely are coercing young boys and girls, and that's just as bad.
+i hate google True! Many trainees are pretty much kids, and taking them to a surgeon who says "you look okay but you'd be beautiful if you had a different nose, different eyes, a different chin/lips/cheeks/breasts" is going to affect how a trainee feels about herself or himself. There's huge pressure to look a certain way, and most trainees won't risk saying "no thanks" to surgery because when so many people train and few people actually debut you want to have the best chance of being chosen for a group or a solo career.
Well you gotta understand that looks=money, and people knows that. If you wanna even survive in the industry, you’re pressured to get surgery by pretty people around you, and those earning more than you. I think it’s the industry as a whole that forces idols to get plastic surgery.
@@tmdsb2655 but they should also think of long term effects, ps needs retouching every once in a while esp if you get older. Like, that means that they'll be in their 50s and still has to do regular injections or something so that their noses won't look like melted wax.
She's having trouble speaking because her lips are inflated with fillers that will slowly leak into her body (watch her try to say the word "feminine"). When her lips have deflated, she can decide whether to have more injections and add more fillers that will leak and be absorbed. Procedures that make it harder to speak are a great choice for a rapper!
I would love love if you talked about what happens behind the scenes a little bit more. For example - where do you get clothes? How do you find hair salons and is that a manager's job? And also can you make money on the side by not just doing music like promoting stuff and what do you do with old clothes you don't wanna wear anymore? I know this is all over the place but i hope my point came thruu. Loved the vid as always ✌💕
Yeah like after debut wear do all the outfits from music videos and multiple performances go? And wear do they get the clothes from in the first place? I know some artist clothes are famous brands (like bts wearing gucci or whatever) but for other idols who might not have that kind of money do they just got to regular department stores or do their company have personnel designers that make their clothes.
Jr Smiles im pretty sure the brands "lend" those clothes to them. it's part of promotion. the idols are not paying for those clothes they wear on red carpets/MVs, it's the artist's agency/management who deals with the styling and accepts clothes from designers. or at least that's how it works with western celebrities.
joejow11 artists usually get clothes from actual clothing brands because artists can promote the clothing in the videos. Some have a stylist who makes the clothes from scratch and those are kept with the stylist. After that the idols return them cause uhh if you don’t know runway clothes are thousands of dollars. Also an artist could most likely not have another job on the side the main focus as a trainee is to work with your vocals, dance practice and facial exercises like acting in front of a camera. In some agencies you are suggested over and over to get surgery. So it’s like you are pressured and it’s not right like she said they tell her she’ll look more beautiful.
Since Kpop idols having plastic surgery is a pretty regular thing, why is there so much denial or defensiveness that comes from the idol or their fans when people point out what they have gotten done? I guess they really like the idea of natural beauty, but then that sort of ignores the truth?
Honestly though, it’s so dumb. There are idols that I love to death, but have obviously had work done. But if anyone even insinuates that they’ve had anything done, people swarm like wasps and insist that they’re “all natural”. I think it comes from the misconstrued notion that “the people I love/stan are perfect and have no flaws”. They’re humans, of course they have flaws. Very few people are born 9’s and 10’s, most of us need a little help to get there...
Joy Cha under their company they probably aren’t allowed to address it. Their idol is there to perform only and if an interview talk about the music mainly.
Joy Cha fans are defensive because they like the idol. Makes sense, if you like someone and another person points their nose is ugly and if you’re loyal to them why would you not be rude to the “another person.” Or deny it’s true even if your friends nose may not be ugly but is different and isn’t as appealing in your own opinion.
I don’t plastic surgery shame but being forced into getting one doesn’t necessarily mean having a gun to your head. If I had people telling me I would look better if I changed some of my facial features repeatedly and I was treated negatively for not fitting into their beauty standards while others weren’t, I would definitely be pressured to get one. Even if I don’t necessarily hate how I look. So these agencies know wtf they’re doing... I do appreciate how open you are about this tho and dark hair looks bomb on you 😫💖
Very sensible comment. Not exactly the same but I am a tall woman, as a child my mum got pressured to stop or slow down my growing, repeatedly. My mums friend who is a nurse outright said I was a head & shoulders taller than all the other kids at her daughter's birthday party & she knows of medication to slow my growth. The friend said my mum should take me to a doctor & ask for me to be made shorter. When my mum politely declined & said doctors were tracking my growth & I was just tall not a giant, she said it was selfish of my mum as I would get bullied! My mum repeated the conversation to two other mums at school, one said it was a perfectly sensible suggestion & the other one was shocked & said don't do anything, she is healthy & God just made her tall.
Houston i only know of kyuhyun,heechul and shindong admitting to surgery. kyuhyun and shindong being double eyelid and heechul HAD to for a broken nose and he couldnt breathe. when and where did leeteuk admit to ps??
I think we focus on looks in K-pop too much. I don't blame idols or other entertainers for wanting plastic surgery if it means the person will go further in your career. I don't like how Korea seems to have 1 standard of beauty. So everyone's trying so hard to look the same or trying to look the best version of such a restrictive standard.
someone finally said it, I'm being honest here, people make me think more about them because all I ever hear from kpop fans irl is all about their faves and the most popular member that "stands out" because of their looks, it's always about looks I never hear enough about talent.
I want to say my opinion without offending anyone but... Its seriously difficult to fall in love with new kpop artists and their image becaude its so... standardised? If that makes sense? Like a lot of the idols look similar due to surgery or a specific look the company wanted. One of my fave groups is exo and they all different, they all have their own look and its unique whereas a few newer groups they look very similar and maybes it due to the surgery or the fact they've got for specific looks. edit: i want to edit the grammar coz my english aint that bad but its too late lool
@@athelane That is true! And I think its because they havent really got anything unique or interesting. And I welcone new artists. Im just getting back into kpop again after being absent for 2years so catching to these new fans and how much its exploded its really overwhelming. The kpop industry is so heavily saturated
South Korea is a highly homogeneous and homophobic country, that’s why. It’s okay to make change a thing or two in your body if it will make you feel confident but if you become addicted to plastic surgery, then it becomes a mental issue and also they are alot of cases in which a patient died upon doing alot of plastic surgery at the same time.
thank you for being so honest and upfront about what you had done !! It’s kinda upsetting that so many idols and just people in general feel like they have to fit these beauty ideals but also if it makes you feel more confident, I say you should do what makes you happy !! you look gorgeous btw we stan a queen 🤩
Do companies do anything about body hair? Like arms, arm pits and legs? Do they have you shave or wax? Will they pay for a wax? Do they just stay out of it?
sometimes imperfection is perfection, but i think being perfect is booring, thats why god made every single humain being special by their imperfections, so thank god for every tng that gave us
Black hair is the best hair colour😜 But on another note, you are the realest person out here in the internet. Thank you for always being honest and staying true to who you are❤️ Thank you for opening up our eyes and allowing us to understand the kpop industry (something many people misunderstand) a lot more. You deserve all the love💗💗💗
Yes! I looove really jet black, midnight hair, it is so luxurious! I think blonde hair is overused and over-rated. BTW, I have neither hair color, so not biased.
KPOPJackson BlueCookie no ones hair is naturally black. Its just really really really dark brown hair. My hair looks black but under a microscope it’s extremely dark brown
I agree with the part where the "prettier girl often gets center stage." I notice it so much now when I see k idols in videos. The "visual" is usually the first to walk on the red carpet or they get more air time on shows compared to the others. I've even seen the cameraman film the "visual" while another member is hitting a high note while performing?! It can get so annoying sometimes but as humans, we're just naturally attracted to beauty ideals even if it's subjective :/
I understand the pressure. I work as an international model and I am constantly under a microscope. People outside of our industries do not understand the pressure that we are under to look and be, "perfect". Our self-worth can become attached to how we look even though we are not shallow. It's a double standard that isn't talked about as openly as you have just done it right now. Thank you for shedding some light on topics like these.
“Who are we, we are just entertainers” killed me... It’s so sad to think it this way, even though that’s the HARSH K-POP REALITY... “You are talented humans” at least to me...❤️❤️❤️
With idols getting plastic surgery, sure they can be fine themselves. But remember they are still idols and many little girls and boys looks up to them. But sending the message that it is okay to go under the knife due to peer pressure/criticism is wrong. It sets unrealistic expectations and lowers self esteem. Episcally kids look up to them even more so than their own parents. We should send the message that no matter how you look, you should find the confidence and own your look. It might take time, but it is the correct message.
THANK YOU I remember watching some episodes of Hello Counselor with idols. I understand they are celebrities, but they always look so similar amongst them, and then you look at the people on the public and there was a lot of diversity in features. Ik it's the nature of the business, but a young kid won't probably understand it. This draws me off kpop so much ☹️
Due to peer pressure is 1000% the story!.. but most of the time its the parents, the company, the friends, the public.. this is why the beauty is really the same ,.even trends. Tbh.. when you do the same makeup, same surgery Asthetic.. everyone looks the same. Thats just what happens when stuff isn't celebrated. You can do surgery to make yourself happy and confident. But don't do it if you don't want to and just because someone says you should
I definitely noticed the lips right away, and it definitely softens your look! You look so pretty, lip fillers or not, but I'm glad you did what made you happy!
Wow Grace thank you for being so honest and open! I def do see a better and deeper perspective on this issue. I hope that others too will be reminded to be kinder in their words and language used. Also you're beautiful :)
I just love how real she is about this. I wish some people would shut up about complaining about idols getting surgeries. At the very end what she said was literally my opinion about it 👏👏
i think young ppl are suceptible to this kind of coersion tho... When i was younger i was convinced that i would get a nose job later in life bc i thought it was too long. now that im older i honestly love my nose so much. its my favorite feature now and im so relieved that i didnt have the money back then to do anything to it...
I think those fans who get defensive and swear their faves have never got anything done are feeding the stigma PS =bad. It is not, it's the nature of the business as she was saying. Can we appreciate them more for their talent and performance than their looks?
The lip injections suit you and honestly dnt look bad or fake. Just don’t go overboard like Kylie Jenner and some youtubers like Trisha paytas LOL. But your honesty is very refreshing u r gorgeous❤️
Thank you for being honest and open about your experiences with this topic. It's really refreshing~ Unless, we are idols/entertainers ourselves, it is difficult to understand the constant pressure from society to be perfect. By the way, the natural hair color really suits you! Much love from ATL
I appreciate your blunt honesty, and I sympathize with your point! I personally am against plastic surgery, but I can't judge those in those pressure situations, having an entire room criticizing your face and forcing those ideologies on you would be insane and I can't say for certain I wouldn't consider it after that either. Regardless of whether you did it or not, thanks for being so honest and informative!
for the double eyelid thing, a lot of asians are born with it. and it's not that koreans or asians want to look white, they want to look like the other asians who were born with those features naturally. Same with a thin tall nose or a v line, there are women and men in asia naturally born with those traits, and that's perceived as attractive to them, so that's why people who are not born with those features, want to look like the other asians who have those features. Just my two cents. It makes me angry that ppl assume that ALL asians have monolids and a square face and medium skintone...no. lol we have different features and different skintones too. And I do think monolids are beautiful, but that's not what other Asians think, so THEY choose to change those features. No one would point at the kpop idols and go "wow that's a white girl" they didn't get surgery to look like a white girl, they got surgery to look more symmetrical, glowy and more like the ideal Asian woman (again, I don't think there is ONE ideal look, different features have their unique charm, but this isn't about what I THINK, it's how THEY think)
YaoLi Jiang yeah but it's mainly a western feature and have you heard of whitewashing lol? I hate it too but it's not a secret that a lot of asian people want to look white/western...
Yes,there are asians (chinese/korean/japanese)with double eyelid, high cheekbone, etc,,but still a lot dont have that. Infact,those who have big almond shape eye,double eyelid etc would often consider as attractive, or they would be praise for that feature. White caucasian,,dont give a shit bout that feature,,because majority if not all have that facial feature
There definitely is whitewashing, but that comes from ASIA not white people lol. In the olden days, the higher society people did not need to work outside so they were paler than those who did labor outdoors. It’s definitely classist, but not because they tryna look like white people.
@@cancermoonclub yeaaa... If you go to Vietnam or Thailand tons of people have big eyes with double lids. Lol. Asia is not just Korea, you're right. Where I was from (border of China and Vietnam) the most common feature is large eyes and tan complexion. That's what I'm trying to say! :') ever since my little sister was a baby ppl have loved her big brown eyes and she always looked like she was out in the sun.
There is no hate here, but plastic surgery really redefines what normal is. It makes something unrealistic to most, the definition of beauty. Its a concept capitalized on by plastic surgeons and other lucrative businesses and its easy to get sucked in. when you get something done not only are you are bowing down society's definition of beauty, but you are also changing the bar for other men/women. A girl with thin lips 50 years ago would never have felt insecure. But now with more celebs endorsing lip injections and trends being established the pressure to succumb has heightened. This is not a hate comment against grazy - but just to let anyone who is super insecure about their appearance to not be so. the most beautiful thing in the world is self confidence - i have seen and experienced it first hand. the sexiest men and women to me are those that exude confidence with the way they carry themselves - it has nothing to do with how they look. lots of love xx
we can say that yes they're not forced to have surgery (with minor exceptions), but it's also true that surgery is beyond normalized and wrongly idealized and east asian girls and boys are conditioned to have it.
Graaaace your hair looks sooooo so good ! It looks healthy and it fits you so well ! Thanks for being honest and open on these subjects, I really don't get plastic surgery but honestly as long as you do it for you, you are not addicted and you are happy about it, go for it girl 😁 it looks good !
It's such a shame that people in the entertainment industry behind the scenes can be so judgy I hope people will stop making appearances all that when it's about character not how appearance should feel like its everything, people age, but still, it's a big waste of time when people continue to behave so shallow and it's just so unhealthy
Hair looks amazing (and makes you look so youthful!) and the lip injections are really well done, they really balance everything together. You look great!
Love u Grace!! Thanks for making this video!! Can you sometime make a video talking about slave contracts in the kpop scene and maybe ur experiences or things you have heard about them? I feel like it would be super interesting to hear ur thoughts on them!!💖💖
13:05 to the end I 100% agree. You're honest and beautiful inside and out! I'm glad I found your channel. Love your content and happy to see your progress.
boo I know that Korean TV uses some sort of filter or something to make people lighter. There’s this one photo where some male idol was light-skinned but his reflection wasn’t, so their photos are edited too. Also I’m pretty sure they have skin lightening products in Korea, but I don’t know if they’re that effective or not.
Your surgeons have done a great job, your face looks very natural in a perfect sort of way. You're beautiful, and anyone who tells you otherwise is just insecure.
Had a friend of a friend that commented on my favorite group apink: "they're pretty but not enough to be idol". I didn't get angry since that's her opinion but I felt sad that this is the society we live in now where the bar is set so high for no reason.
I’m glad that you are going more natural with your hair, it’s beautiful and when it comes to plastic surgery, as long as it’s not for anyone besides yourself then that is good and your lips look gorgeous
Your lips looks nice, but please you're so beautiful! 😍 Don't change your face like other singers who do a lot of things on it and they lost their beauty I know is your decision 🤗
You look so beautiful with black hair! Thank you for dismistifying the whole "asians do ps to become more western" thing! And girl, you paid for it than it's yours, your lips look amazing
Thanks for this video Grace! I’ve been feeling so insecure lately because of how everyone points out pretty girls. You’re right though, I do see that most people’s biases tend to be the prettiest member... and if you’re not pretty you’re not as loved.
It angers me so much when people say that we get surgery to look white like how conceited can you be? We're getting double eyelid surgeries to look like other asians with double eyelids.
@@c.j.5455 A lot of models have double eyelids, so people want to get surgery to look like them. A lot of them also get surgery to fix uneven eyelids, or if they have a single lid and a double eyelid like me.
You look ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS Grace and I love that you have a positive opinion on plastic surgery. I think plastic surgery is one of the best things ever invented. There are many people ( like me) who need it to gain confidence or to fix certain areas that aren't considered attractive. I have been bullied a lot cause of the way I look ( although I don't suffer from a deformity or anything, just that my face and body aren't visually attractive to others and this impacted my life in a bad way) and this truly ruined my life and I have no self esteem or confidence in myself, suffer from severe depression and I'm sure there are many people with the same issue. I personally believe that looking better can truly help those like me begin to love ourselves and save our lives . As long as you aren't addicted to it or put your life at risk to have more and more, it's fine. Korea has amazing plastic surgeons and it's one of my greatest wishes to get a consultation and plastic surgeries from a real professional, but sadly it's too expensive for me. Everything looks so natural and beautiful so it's hard for me to believe when idols get it because of how stunning they look.
when I clicked I thought maybe it was your nose? It’s so weird because before I didn’t notice anything you said about your face being uneven or anything, talking about it brings attention to it. I think the lips were fine before but I’m glad you got to try it and see if you like it! You look beautiful as usual :)
this is a really interesting video. It got me thinking about how beauty reinforces classist, racist, and sexist ideas about who matters. I completely understand that investing in beauty, especially in an industry that’s so visually focused, is a matter of survival and social mobility. everyone wants to feel desired and be treated nice. when you look good, more people pay attention. it sucks that the way you’re treated is contingent on your perceived attractiveness. when you mentioned how pretty trainees were given a little more care and advantages, I got so sad. even looking at kpop now, whether it’s the way the public receives a group or seeing groups on variety shows, it’s so obvious. less attractive members get treated as the butt of the joke, even if they’re the most talented person in the group. it’s so ridiculous. thank you for sharing your story
i seriously will link EVERYONE AND ANYONE who says shit about plastic surgery on koreans or just plastic surgery in general. i love how you speak so confidently and accurately. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING ALL THIS HONESTLY.
I have uneven jaws too and i've thought about getting surgery on it too but it's such a risky surgery so many people botch their face from that surgery. I love each side and don't think I could see myself getting it just because it's irreversible .
how do idols cope with periods? it must be difficult to perform in those days, with the probability that you could bleed your clothes. do girls use pads, tampons or menstrual cups?
Am sure each girl makes her own choice about that! Pads are a disaster; personally, I stopped wearing them pretty early. I don't know about Idols, but most performers power through their periods: they perform no matter what, and if they have to take Motrin or use a heating pad for cramps they do this during their own time.
Soobeanie has a video on this I believe. She is an ex-idol group member who speaks English too. That video really cleared up my questions about that too.
@xsx7xsx No, treating idols like that is illegal. They do get put on diets and are asked to exercise regularly, though it's not too extreme. The only way their periods could stop is when they are going through EXTREME malnutrition or stress. None of the idols that I know of are that malnourished.
I wanted to take a min to tell you how beautiful, natural, cute, innocent, and elegant you are. Does.t matter what subject you're talking about, I would listen to you day and night. Love your calm voice.
OmG, I really misunderstood the last video, I thought there was much pressure behind it from the companies. - But I still find natural the most beautiful and plastic surgery not. Never mind how much better it technically looks, because you can see that it’s not real, not natural, and that doesn’t look very nice. The confidence to like yourself the way you are is much nicer than however you can look with any kind of surgery or alteration. Just my opinion.
The lip injections and the hair look BOMB, and I’m so glad that you’re doing this for yourself! You are beautiful in any form that makes you feel happy.
I’ve heard about the fat thigh injections. Thought it was intriguing when I looked it up. That being said the whole V-line chin/face standard in Korea is so fucking ridiculous
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I knew that u had nose and lips surgery,we love u and support u I’m not bashing or anything like that it’s your face and your body u can do whatever u want with it u still look beautiful and kind I loved your personality and your inner character
Thanks for premiering
yes you should i love you
GRAZY GRACE it is the exact same thing in the modeling industry over here grace and btw i realy like your lips like this❤️❤️
PLS SHOW US HOW U DID THAT MAKE UP!! STUNNING
grrrlll u look like ur face is really hard to move....just sayin...
Your ugly
suddenly i remember Jessi once said that "Well I paid for it that's my money, if you have problem then get yours done too" #iconic hahahahaa
Anastasia Avell Savage queen 🤣
Anastasia Avell lol
The girl who asked her had no chest...😹😹
Anastasia Avell we love a savage queen❤️
Lol
They don't force you to get plastic surgery but from the way you described it, they definitely are coercing young boys and girls, and that's just as bad.
THANK YOU.
+i hate google True! Many trainees are pretty much kids, and taking them to a surgeon who says "you look okay but you'd be beautiful if you had a different nose, different eyes, a different chin/lips/cheeks/breasts" is going to affect how a trainee feels about herself or himself.
There's huge pressure to look a certain way, and most trainees won't risk saying "no thanks" to surgery because when so many people train and few people actually debut you want to have the best chance of being chosen for a group or a solo career.
Well you gotta understand that looks=money, and people knows that. If you wanna even survive in the industry, you’re pressured to get surgery by pretty people around you, and those earning more than you. I think it’s the industry as a whole that forces idols to get plastic surgery.
@@tmdsb2655 but they should also think of long term effects, ps needs retouching every once in a while esp if you get older. Like, that means that they'll be in their 50s and still has to do regular injections or something so that their noses won't look like melted wax.
delilah28100 Idk about you, but those things you mentioned sound better than starving to death because they can’t find work. Hmmmm...
Your lips look realistic and proportional. I also would not have noticed bc they look very natural.
She's having trouble speaking because her lips are inflated with fillers that will slowly leak into her body (watch her try to say the word "feminine"). When her lips have deflated, she can decide whether to have more injections and add more fillers that will leak and be absorbed. Procedures that make it harder to speak are a great choice for a rapper!
Would never suspect you did something to your lips.. Love it though.. It did enhanced your beauty..
I would love love if you talked about what happens behind the scenes a little bit more. For example - where do you get clothes? How do you find hair salons and is that a manager's job? And also can you make money on the side by not just doing music like promoting stuff and what do you do with old clothes you don't wanna wear anymore? I know this is all over the place but i hope my point came thruu. Loved the vid as always ✌💕
This is such a good idea
Yeah like after debut wear do all the outfits from music videos and multiple performances go?
And wear do they get the clothes from in the first place? I know some artist clothes are famous brands (like bts wearing gucci or whatever) but for other idols who might not have that kind of money do they just got to regular department stores or do their company have personnel designers that make their clothes.
Jr Smiles im pretty sure the brands "lend" those clothes to them. it's part of promotion. the idols are not paying for those clothes they wear on red carpets/MVs, it's the artist's agency/management who deals with the styling and accepts clothes from designers. or at least that's how it works with western celebrities.
joejow11 artists usually get clothes from actual clothing brands because artists can promote the clothing in the videos. Some have a stylist who makes the clothes from scratch and those are kept with the stylist. After that the idols return them cause uhh if you don’t know runway clothes are thousands of dollars. Also an artist could most likely not have another job on the side the main focus as a trainee is to work with your vocals, dance practice and facial exercises like acting in front of a camera. In some agencies you are suggested over and over to get surgery. So it’s like you are pressured and it’s not right like she said they tell her she’ll look more beautiful.
Shel oh I didn’t see you wrote that.
Since Kpop idols having plastic surgery is a pretty regular thing, why is there so much denial or defensiveness that comes from the idol or their fans when people point out what they have gotten done? I guess they really like the idea of natural beauty, but then that sort of ignores the truth?
Agree on that.
Honestly though, it’s so dumb. There are idols that I love to death, but have obviously had work done. But if anyone even insinuates that they’ve had anything done, people swarm like wasps and insist that they’re “all natural”. I think it comes from the misconstrued notion that “the people I love/stan are perfect and have no flaws”. They’re humans, of course they have flaws. Very few people are born 9’s and 10’s, most of us need a little help to get there...
Joy Cha under their company they probably aren’t allowed to address it. Their idol is there to perform only and if an interview talk about the music mainly.
Joy Cha fans are defensive because they like the idol. Makes sense, if you like someone and another person points their nose is ugly and if you’re loyal to them why would you not be rude to the “another person.” Or deny it’s true even if your friends nose may not be ugly but is different and isn’t as appealing in your own opinion.
I know jooe from momoland recently said she got her nose done and no one even cared
the lip injection looks good, and also it's ur life! as long as u do procedures for YOU, it's all good :)
I don’t plastic surgery shame but being forced into getting one doesn’t necessarily mean having a gun to your head. If I had people telling me I would look better if I changed some of my facial features repeatedly and I was treated negatively for not fitting into their beauty standards while others weren’t, I would definitely be pressured to get one. Even if I don’t necessarily hate how I look. So these agencies know wtf they’re doing...
I do appreciate how open you are about this tho and dark hair looks bomb on you 😫💖
She just meant that signing the papers is yiur choice.
I agree. They're not literally forced but they're manipulated into wanting it
@@Sophya7 true, CL was manipulated by Yg too. But she didn't do it. Thank God
Very sensible comment.
Not exactly the same but I am a tall woman, as a child my mum got pressured to stop or slow down my growing, repeatedly. My mums friend who is a nurse outright said I was a head & shoulders taller than all the other kids at her daughter's birthday party & she knows of medication to slow my growth. The friend said my mum should take me to a doctor & ask for me to be made shorter. When my mum politely declined & said doctors were tracking my growth & I was just tall not a giant, she said it was selfish of my mum as I would get bullied!
My mum repeated the conversation to two other mums at school, one said it was a perfectly sensible suggestion & the other one was shocked & said don't do anything, she is healthy & God just made her tall.
@@NotAnotherKuromi it's not your fault! Your born with that and you are beautiful!😊
I think Jessi said she regrets her nose surgery. She's proud of the breast surgery though 😆
Houston like who?
uhm..park bom, sooyoung from snsd, those guys in super junior, every girl in GFRIEND and Apink, i mean i could go on...
uhm...the guys in super junior have LITERALLY said on CAMERA that they've had surgery. you're either in denial or deaf and blind.
Leeteuk, Heechul and Kyuhyun from SJ have all admitted to their OBVIOUS surgeries. look it up and stop playing dumb.
Houston i only know of kyuhyun,heechul and shindong admitting to surgery. kyuhyun and shindong being double eyelid and heechul HAD to for a broken nose and he couldnt breathe. when and where did leeteuk admit to ps??
I think we focus on looks in K-pop too much. I don't blame idols or other entertainers for wanting plastic surgery if it means the person will go further in your career. I don't like how Korea seems to have 1 standard of beauty. So everyone's trying so hard to look the same or trying to look the best version of such a restrictive standard.
Yeah like who comes up with these standards? Cause I know lots of people's personal type is different from the standard
someone finally said it, I'm being honest here, people make me think more about them because all I ever hear from kpop fans irl is all about their faves and the most popular member that "stands out" because of their looks, it's always about looks I never hear enough about talent.
I want to say my opinion without offending anyone but... Its seriously difficult to fall in love with new kpop artists and their image becaude its so... standardised? If that makes sense? Like a lot of the idols look similar due to surgery or a specific look the company wanted. One of my fave groups is exo and they all different, they all have their own look and its unique whereas a few newer groups they look very similar and maybes it due to the surgery or the fact they've got for specific looks.
edit: i want to edit the grammar coz my english aint that bad but its too late lool
@@athelane That is true! And I think its because they havent really got anything unique or interesting. And I welcone new artists. Im just getting back into kpop again after being absent for 2years so catching to these new fans and how much its exploded its really overwhelming. The kpop industry is so heavily saturated
South Korea is a highly homogeneous and homophobic country, that’s why.
It’s okay to make change a thing or two in your body if it will make you feel confident but if you become addicted to plastic surgery, then it becomes a mental issue and also they are alot of cases in which a patient died upon doing alot of plastic surgery at the same time.
thank you for being so honest and upfront about what you had done !! It’s kinda upsetting that so many idols and just people in general feel like they have to fit these beauty ideals but also if it makes you feel more confident, I say you should do what makes you happy !! you look gorgeous btw we stan a queen 🤩
Grace, how do Kpop idols have such nice and bright armpits? Do they apply foundation there as well?
uwu asking the _real_ questions
uwu i'm curious too
I’ve seen whitening arm pit mask in Japan, they might have something similar in Korea
Now that is the REAL question that needs to be answered.
Lol alot of people just have naturally light armpits
Do companies do anything about body hair? Like arms, arm pits and legs? Do they have you shave or wax? Will they pay for a wax? Do they just stay out of it?
Julia Hace good question actually. I always wondered too xD
I wonder too
i wondered that too!!
i think they did laser treatment...
Glad I am not the only one wondering this
sometimes imperfection is perfection, but i think being perfect is booring, thats why god made every single humain being special by their imperfections, so thank god for every tng that gave us
Oumaima Arhezzaf
- I agree, examples like this makes the natural, pretty individuals carry the burden of national stigma.
Imperfections are not perfect that's why the imperfections.....
That hair color suits you a lot! 😊 Also props to you on being so open on these topics! That's awesome!
Black hair is the best hair colour😜
But on another note, you are the realest person out here in the internet. Thank you for always being honest and staying true to who you are❤️ Thank you for opening up our eyes and allowing us to understand the kpop industry (something many people misunderstand) a lot more.
You deserve all the love💗💗💗
Yes! I looove really jet black, midnight hair, it is so luxurious! I think blonde hair is overused and over-rated. BTW, I have neither hair color, so not biased.
Everyone says my hair looks black and it does, but sometimes it looks like reaaaaaally dark brown so I’m not sure what color my hair is.
KPOPJackson BlueCookie no ones hair is naturally black. Its just really really really dark brown hair. My hair looks black but under a microscope it’s extremely dark brown
Rin S i mean it’s their natural hair color so
@@IzukuMidoriya-ls1hw I love your username ;)
I agree with the part where the "prettier girl often gets center stage." I notice it so much now when I see k idols in videos. The "visual" is usually the first to walk on the red carpet or they get more air time on shows compared to the others. I've even seen the cameraman film the "visual" while another member is hitting a high note while performing?! It can get so annoying sometimes but as humans, we're just naturally attracted to beauty ideals even if it's subjective :/
wow your new hair is so beautiful, i loved!!
The psychology is real. Once they get into ur head, you can be convinced to do whatever u think u need to get done.
woman in the business: yep, people are getting PS.
random fan: my bias has never had anything done.
hahaa
Yup, my bias too
Look so soft with the new lips..
I understand the pressure. I work as an international model and I am constantly under a microscope. People outside of our industries do not understand the pressure that we are under to look and be, "perfect".
Our self-worth can become attached to how we look even though we are not shallow. It's a double standard that isn't talked about as openly as you have just done it right now.
Thank you for shedding some light on topics like these.
Damn girl, that black hair color is sooo beautiful you look very pretty
“Double eyelids aren’t meant to make you look more western"
“Double eyelid surgery makes you look less Asian-y”
Girl. Bye.
“Who are we, we are just entertainers” killed me...
It’s so sad to think it this way, even though that’s the HARSH K-POP REALITY...
“You are talented humans” at least to me...❤️❤️❤️
With idols getting plastic surgery, sure they can be fine themselves. But remember they are still idols and many little girls and boys looks up to them. But sending the message that it is okay to go under the knife due to peer pressure/criticism is wrong. It sets unrealistic expectations and lowers self esteem. Episcally kids look up to them even more so than their own parents. We should send the message that no matter how you look, you should find the confidence and own your look. It might take time, but it is the correct message.
THANK YOU I remember watching some episodes of Hello Counselor with idols. I understand they are celebrities, but they always look so similar amongst them, and then you look at the people on the public and there was a lot of diversity in features. Ik it's the nature of the business, but a young kid won't probably understand it. This draws me off kpop so much ☹️
Look up Intradermal Injection, I think that’s one of the minor surgeries that idols do to get bright/light skin.
Due to peer pressure is 1000% the story!.. but most of the time its the parents, the company, the friends, the public.. this is why the beauty is really the same ,.even trends. Tbh.. when you do the same makeup, same surgery Asthetic.. everyone looks the same. Thats just what happens when stuff isn't celebrated. You can do surgery to make yourself happy and confident. But don't do it if you don't want to and just because someone says you should
You’re just a beautiful person and I give you so much credit for being honest/brave about the industry and the pressures trainees/idols face
I definitely noticed the lips right away, and it definitely softens your look! You look so pretty, lip fillers or not, but I'm glad you did what made you happy!
*"fenimin"*
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😂oh grace
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I knew she said it wrong 😂
gracexoxs I read this right when she said it
Wow Grace thank you for being so honest and open! I def do see a better and deeper perspective on this issue. I hope that others too will be reminded to be kinder in their words and language used. Also you're beautiful :)
I just love how real she is about this. I wish some people would shut up about complaining about idols getting surgeries. At the very end what she said was literally my opinion about it 👏👏
I love how honest you’re! That is why I love you!! No matter what you’re beautiful! The lips look AMAZING!! Slay girl! ❤️❤️❤️
You look amazing, Grace! I love how your lips turned out.
i think young ppl are suceptible to this kind of coersion tho... When i was younger i was convinced that i would get a nose job later in life bc i thought it was too long. now that im older i honestly love my nose so much. its my favorite feature now and im so relieved that i didnt have the money back then to do anything to it...
I think those fans who get defensive and swear their faves have never got anything done are feeding the stigma PS =bad. It is not, it's the nature of the business as she was saying. Can we appreciate them more for their talent and performance than their looks?
The lip injections suit you and honestly dnt look bad or fake. Just don’t go overboard like Kylie Jenner and some youtubers like Trisha paytas LOL. But your honesty is very refreshing u r gorgeous❤️
Love you 😍
First to comment! Love you Grazy~
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We will support you in everything you do/did! F THE HATERS!
I really appreciate your honesty because some people really be acting like if it’s a bad thing or something to be ashamed of
Thank you for being honest and open about your experiences with this topic. It's really refreshing~ Unless, we are idols/entertainers ourselves, it is difficult to understand the constant pressure from society to be perfect.
By the way, the natural hair color really suits you! Much love from ATL
I appreciate your blunt honesty, and I sympathize with your point! I personally am against plastic surgery, but I can't judge those in those pressure situations, having an entire room criticizing your face and forcing those ideologies on you would be insane and I can't say for certain I wouldn't consider it after that either. Regardless of whether you did it or not, thanks for being so honest and informative!
for the double eyelid thing, a lot of asians are born with it. and it's not that koreans or asians want to look white, they want to look like the other asians who were born with those features naturally. Same with a thin tall nose or a v line, there are women and men in asia naturally born with those traits, and that's perceived as attractive to them, so that's why people who are not born with those features, want to look like the other asians who have those features. Just my two cents. It makes me angry that ppl assume that ALL asians have monolids and a square face and medium skintone...no. lol we have different features and different skintones too. And I do think monolids are beautiful, but that's not what other Asians think, so THEY choose to change those features. No one would point at the kpop idols and go "wow that's a white girl" they didn't get surgery to look like a white girl, they got surgery to look more symmetrical, glowy and more like the ideal Asian woman (again, I don't think there is ONE ideal look, different features have their unique charm, but this isn't about what I THINK, it's how THEY think)
YaoLi Jiang yeah but it's mainly a western feature and have you heard of whitewashing lol? I hate it too but it's not a secret that a lot of asian people want to look white/western...
Yes,there are asians (chinese/korean/japanese)with double eyelid, high cheekbone, etc,,but still a lot dont have that. Infact,those who have big almond shape eye,double eyelid etc would often consider as attractive, or they would be praise for that feature. White caucasian,,dont give a shit bout that feature,,because majority if not all have that facial feature
thanks for this, i hate when people think all asians have monolids and stuff ugh 🙄 korea isnt the only asian lol
There definitely is whitewashing, but that comes from ASIA not white people lol. In the olden days, the higher society people did not need to work outside so they were paler than those who did labor outdoors. It’s definitely classist, but not because they tryna look like white people.
@@cancermoonclub yeaaa... If you go to Vietnam or Thailand tons of people have big eyes with double lids. Lol. Asia is not just Korea, you're right. Where I was from (border of China and Vietnam) the most common feature is large eyes and tan complexion. That's what I'm trying to say! :') ever since my little sister was a baby ppl have loved her big brown eyes and she always looked like she was out in the sun.
There is no hate here, but plastic surgery really redefines what normal is. It makes something unrealistic to most, the definition of beauty. Its a concept capitalized on by plastic surgeons and other lucrative businesses and its easy to get sucked in. when you get something done not only are you are bowing down society's definition of beauty, but you are also changing the bar for other men/women.
A girl with thin lips 50 years ago would never have felt insecure. But now with more celebs endorsing lip injections and trends being established the pressure to succumb has heightened. This is not a hate comment against grazy - but just to let anyone who is super insecure about their appearance to not be so. the most beautiful thing in the world is self confidence - i have seen and experienced it first hand. the sexiest men and women to me are those that exude confidence with the way they carry themselves - it has nothing to do with how they look.
lots of love xx
we can say that yes they're not forced to have surgery (with minor exceptions), but it's also true that surgery is beyond normalized and wrongly idealized and east asian girls and boys are conditioned to have it.
You slaying black hair, sweetheart! ❤️
Graaaace your hair looks sooooo so good ! It looks healthy and it fits you so well !
Thanks for being honest and open on these subjects, I really don't get plastic surgery but honestly as long as you do it for you, you are not addicted and you are happy about it, go for it girl 😁 it looks good !
It's such a shame that people in the entertainment industry behind the scenes can be so judgy
I hope people will stop making appearances all that when it's about character not how appearance should feel like its everything, people age, but still,
it's a big waste of time when people continue to behave so shallow and it's just so unhealthy
Aaaah I can't wait ✨❤️
i LOVE how honest, confident, and straight forward you are
Hair looks amazing (and makes you look so youthful!) and the lip injections are really well done, they really balance everything together. You look great!
Idols who don't get surgery are derided as being ugly or unfit for performance, idols who do are called "plastic" and "fake". You just can't win!
Love u Grace!! Thanks for making this video!!
Can you sometime make a video talking about slave contracts in the kpop scene and maybe ur experiences or things you have heard about them? I feel like it would be super interesting to hear ur thoughts on them!!💖💖
13:05 to the end I 100% agree. You're honest and beautiful inside and out! I'm glad I found your channel. Love your content and happy to see your progress.
Girrrrl, I can see my reflection in your beautiful glass skin 😍
Love you grazie, you're so genuine and not show off at all , a real person with a Clear heart 💜💜💜💞 Love you ,Stay blessed.
You are so beautiful. Pls pls pls dont let someone tell you otherwise
thank you
stop being so beautiful!! i can't handle your beauty
But how are almost all Idols super light and when you see their old photos theyre a lot darker and even without makeup theyre light
boo I know that Korean TV uses some sort of filter or something to make people lighter. There’s this one photo where some male idol was light-skinned but his reflection wasn’t, so their photos are edited too. Also I’m pretty sure they have skin lightening products in Korea, but I don’t know if they’re that effective or not.
Sugar filters + skin lightening treatments I’m pretty sure
Your surgeons have done a great job, your face looks very natural in a perfect sort of way. You're beautiful, and anyone who tells you otherwise is just insecure.
Had a friend of a friend that commented on my favorite group apink: "they're pretty but not enough to be idol". I didn't get angry since that's her opinion but I felt sad that this is the society we live in now where the bar is set so high for no reason.
I’m glad that you are going more natural with your hair, it’s beautiful and when it comes to plastic surgery, as long as it’s not for anyone besides yourself then that is good and your lips look gorgeous
Your lips looks nice, but please you're so beautiful! 😍 Don't change your face like other singers who do a lot of things on it and they lost their beauty
I know is your decision 🤗
I really appreciate your honesty and your non-judgmental insights on this.
You look so beautiful with black hair! Thank you for dismistifying the whole "asians do ps to become more western" thing! And girl, you paid for it than it's yours, your lips look amazing
Thanks for this video Grace! I’ve been feeling so insecure lately because of how everyone points out pretty girls. You’re right though, I do see that most people’s biases tend to be the prettiest member... and if you’re not pretty you’re not as loved.
10:43 “it makes you seem more feninem ”
Same sis I have a hard time pronouncing it too lol
your lips look so natural! Id have never guessed you had done anything on them
It angers me so much when people say that we get surgery to look white like how conceited can you be? We're getting double eyelid surgeries to look like other asians with double eyelids.
Why? Arent single fold eyelids attractive when it's found in most of the Asian population?
@@c.j.5455 A lot of models have double eyelids, so people want to get surgery to look like them. A lot of them also get surgery to fix uneven eyelids, or if they have a single lid and a double eyelid like me.
you’re literally glowing hooo my gooood 😍
You look ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS Grace and I love that you have a positive opinion on plastic surgery. I think plastic surgery is one of the best things ever invented. There are many people ( like me) who need it to gain confidence or to fix certain areas that aren't considered attractive. I have been bullied a lot cause of the way I look ( although I don't suffer from a deformity or anything, just that my face and body aren't visually attractive to others and this impacted my life in a bad way) and this truly ruined my life and I have no self esteem or confidence in myself, suffer from severe depression and I'm sure there are many people with the same issue. I personally believe that looking better can truly help those like me begin to love ourselves and save our lives . As long as you aren't addicted to it or put your life at risk to have more and more, it's fine. Korea has amazing plastic surgeons and it's one of my greatest wishes to get a consultation and plastic surgeries from a real professional, but sadly it's too expensive for me. Everything looks so natural and beautiful so it's hard for me to believe when idols get it because of how stunning they look.
when I clicked I thought maybe it was your nose? It’s so weird because before I didn’t notice anything you said about your face being uneven or anything, talking about it brings attention to it. I think the lips were fine before but I’m glad you got to try it and see if you like it! You look beautiful as usual :)
You already looked beautiful before unnie but because that made you feel good, it made a huge difference. You are even more beautiful now.💜
Jinyoung in your thumbnail! Do you like Got7? Also you look great 😸
Onion Boy South Korea’s prince visual 🤩
this is a really interesting video. It got me thinking about how beauty reinforces classist, racist, and sexist ideas about who matters. I completely understand that investing in beauty, especially in an industry that’s so visually focused, is a matter of survival and social mobility. everyone wants to feel desired and be treated nice. when you look good, more people pay attention. it sucks that the way you’re treated is contingent on your perceived attractiveness. when you mentioned how pretty trainees were given a little more care and advantages, I got so sad. even looking at kpop now, whether it’s the way the public receives a group or seeing groups on variety shows, it’s so obvious. less attractive members get treated as the butt of the joke, even if they’re the most talented person in the group. it’s so ridiculous. thank you for sharing your story
love your honesty
i seriously will link EVERYONE AND ANYONE who says shit about plastic surgery on koreans or just plastic surgery in general. i love how you speak so confidently and accurately. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING ALL THIS HONESTLY.
Your lip injections actually looks natural I didn’t even notice it until you mentioned it
Ur lip injections actually look really good on you bc it’s not too much! You’re so beautiful rn Grace!! ❤️
I have uneven jaws too and i've thought about getting surgery on it too but it's such a risky surgery so many people botch their face from that surgery. I love each side and don't think I could see myself getting it just because it's irreversible .
Your hair is enhancing your facial features 😍 it looks really good!
Woahh thank u for answering my question 😘
Life is about happiness, do what makes you happy.
how do idols cope with periods? it must be difficult to perform in those days, with the probability that you could bleed your clothes. do girls use pads, tampons or menstrual cups?
Am sure each girl makes her own choice about that! Pads are a disaster; personally, I stopped wearing them pretty early. I don't know about Idols, but most performers power through their periods: they perform no matter what, and if they have to take Motrin or use a heating pad for cramps they do this during their own time.
Soobeanie has a video on this I believe. She is an ex-idol group member who speaks English too. That video really cleared up my questions about that too.
Probably on the pill all the time
Some of them are so stressed especially during trainee days that they don’t even get a period.
@xsx7xsx No, treating idols like that is illegal. They do get put on diets and are asked to exercise regularly, though it's not too extreme. The only way their periods could stop is when they are going through EXTREME malnutrition or stress. None of the idols that I know of are that malnourished.
Thanks for being open. You were born beautiful!
i love you so much grace
I wanted to take a min to tell you how beautiful, natural, cute, innocent, and elegant you are. Does.t matter what subject you're talking about, I would listen to you day and night. Love your calm voice.
OmG, I really misunderstood the last video, I thought there was much pressure behind it from the companies. -
But I still find natural the most beautiful and plastic surgery not. Never mind how much better it technically looks, because you can see that it’s not real, not natural, and that doesn’t look very nice. The confidence to like yourself the way you are is much nicer than however you can look with any kind of surgery or alteration. Just my opinion.
Thank you for making this very informative video! A lot of people try to cover up PS but you were very honest and straightforward so thank you!
Hey who is waiting for the video 😅
The lip injections and the hair look BOMB, and I’m so glad that you’re doing this for yourself! You are beautiful in any form that makes you feel happy.
I can’t even tell your lips had injections tbh they look really good! 💕
Her lips look pretty and natural, it's nice that she didn't go overboard with it!
I’ve heard about the fat thigh injections. Thought it was intriguing when I looked it up.
That being said the whole V-line chin/face standard in Korea is so fucking ridiculous
Amina A why would they want to infect fat into their thighs? Don’t they want to be skinny bc they always seem so skinny whenever I watch mvs
I love your new look. Love you Grazy glad to see you again. Please keep on uploading I love to see your vlog
*Skin Bleaching is a huge thing in Korea and Asia PERIOD*
*Skin Bleaching Agents: also known -- Skin lightening, bleaching creams, whiteners, skin brighteners, or fading cream. Form: Creams, pills, and Injections*
A lot of products (in Korea) have key components. Only idiots think it would say "bleach". Glowy Skin vs Skin lighter is way different and not the same thing.
Also, Skin Bleaching & Lightening agents are the same things its to break down pigments. *Please don't comment if you have no idea what you are saying on that subject.*
Just know if you do use these forms below you will forever need to use SUNBLOCK for the rest of your life. Using a Skin bleach will cause your skin to get darker faster than it ever would. That why *Korea Beauty products* have SPF in 99% of them. Most Asian countries use a white cream which to make them more "pale/whiter".
*Naturally Safe*
Papaya
Citrus Extracts: Orange & Lemon
Bearberry Extract
Phyllanthus Emblica
*Chemically Safe (if you do it small amounts and need professional help to use high dose):*
Retin-A aka Tretinoin
Vitamin C (can't use w/ Niacinamide)
Alpha-arbutin
Niacinamide (can't use w/ Vitamin C)
Glutathione
Azelaic acid
Glycolic acid
Linoleic acid
Paper Mulberry
Liquorice extract
Kojic Acid
*Chemically Dangerous: *
hydroquinone
Kojic Acid (cause lot of harm and painful)
(*BTW!! Don't comment if you are not educated in skin care products. If you are not a Dermatologist and Esthetician*)
Thx for the explanation
#TEAMWANG JACKSON WANG thanks I didn’t know about the sunblock thing...
I like that you are well spoken. Keep up the good work.
"makes you feel more FENIMINE" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I knew that u had nose and lips surgery,we love u and support u I’m not bashing or anything like that it’s your face and your body u can do whatever u want with it u still look beautiful and kind I loved your personality and your inner character
It’s kinda funny how everyone are hating on six bomb after their plastic surgery, but none are hating on grace 😆
True,
I love how she talks about her experience without being like '' I'm so beatiful.. I'm the best..'' i respeccct her