Hilleberg Niak vs. Nallo 2 GT/Anjan 2 GT

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2021
  • While I was on a recent sheep hunt I had the good fortune to have my Niak set up beside my friend's Nallo 2 GT. I took the opportunity to shoot a comparison video as the Nallo is structurally very similar to the Anjan and I have been struggling with trying to decide whether I should add an Anjan 2 GT to my shelter list. If you have any questions please feel free to drop them in the comments section below.
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  • @boscho1986
    @boscho1986 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hi, I like Your type of review - practical value, not bickering about a few ounces... Hilleberg used to have another line for the tunneltents, they called it EX, like Nammatj EX and that meant that you would have a big zipper close to the front pole all along the entire pole and you could remove the vestibule and zip in the GT part. That made the Nammatj the perfect tent for me: good for one person all 4 seasons (even in summer, because you could remove the vestibule completely and have perfect ventilation) - and with the GT it was a very spacious two person tent even in winter (which is 6 month of the year in northern Norway, where I used to live). Of course that would mean 2 or 300 gramms more to carry, because of the zipper. Well, they are just not made anymore... and after 15 years of use mine got retired - by a rift in the fly. Now I use a Suolo, because I am kayaking most of my outdoor time and I like that the tent is stable against wind from all directions AND big plus: I can move it around until I find the right spot. Very little space - true, but I got used to it. For summer time and hiking I am thinking about a Niak or an Anjan 2 - that's why I came here...

  • @megalep7025
    @megalep7025 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hi! Nice review of the tents.
    I live in Norway and have several Hilleberg tents that I have used a lot since I bought the first one in 1995. I have Niak and nallo(without GT), Soulo and Akto which all are suitable for a man going alone. When I'm out with my girlfriend and her dog we usually choose a bigger 3 persontent with GT as the Kaitum3GT.
    Most of my trips I have been alone, maybe for up to 3-4 weeks with a lot of fishing and moving around in the mountains.
    As I've gotten older(50+) I prefer the Nallo over the other one-person-tents because of the extra space in the vestibule. It's the same weight as Soulo at 2.4kg's but has a lot more room both inside and in the vestibule, and even better ventilation, higher comfort. Soulo was really a mistake buying I think because I can't really find the use for it. It's more like a bombproof wintertent but in winter i prefer bigger models.
    In Nallo in bad weather you can comfortably store a big backpack and fry fish in the vestibule, cook coffe and so on which is a lot trickier in Niak for sure. And thats not even the GT-version Nallo2. In very bad weather Niak is not so comfortable. Regarding Akto that was my first choice on all trips from 1995 to 2008, but the space inside is really small with gear inside and low over your head, the vestibule on the other hand is a little better in Akto than in Niak and Soulo.Never use Akto anymore in bad weather, heavy rain for a week inside there is not fun. The little added weight of Nallo is worth it for me!

  • @TheeMessia
    @TheeMessia ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice review. Well done. One hint regarding the missing space / vestibule with the Niak: You can easily build a big vestibule with an additional tarp to the Niak, for instance with the Hilleberg Tapr 5 or some other, even lighter Tarp (e. g. the Nordisk Voss 5 ULW Tarp or the Bach Tarp Poncho). Then you have a perfect, easy to pitch, and very comfy tent for one person with enough space for all your gear and space for cooking when it is raining all day long. (ok, you do mention this at the end of your video).

  • @bryanclarke9189
    @bryanclarke9189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super helpful video here! So nice to see both tents with you inside for a side-by-side comparison!! Your other video on the Soulo was helpful too. Like you say, these are all excellent tents, but really comes down to your intended purpose and body size (as well as a few other things). Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @snymainn
    @snymainn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You covered practical points that most reviewers miss, e.g. about how to get more space in the vestibule and how the space inside actually feels compared to the Anjan/Nallo. Great review. Thanks.

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man. Appreciate the feedback.

  • @TheTrailDancer
    @TheTrailDancer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    90% of 2 person tents are 1 person livable. But Fjällräven and Hilleberg are the best tents of the market IMHO! :) Nice vid!

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I don’t even know why they use the term 2p lol. Thanks man!

    • @TheTrailDancer
      @TheTrailDancer 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MindfulHunter Do you like your Soulo more? I have a Staika, but it's SO overkill and heavy. It's a badass tent, but I've been thinking about the Soulo, Nick, Allak, for Unna. I don't like the no vestibule on the Unna. Red labels are great. Have you had you Niak in bad winds/rain?
      Thoughts?
      Thanks!

  • @firstranger7282
    @firstranger7282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always nice to see honest and unbiased review or overview, call it whatever. Point being opinion of someone, who's not trying to sell it to you.
    Personally I would never sleep in one tent with another dude unless it's a survival situation.
    That being said having some extra space is always a plus in case someone you're willing to share this tent with wants to join you. If you know what I mean. :D

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate the feedback. Glad you found it useful.

  • @violinmaestro777
    @violinmaestro777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The niaks material doesn't touch the ground like hillibergs 4 season tents do.
    It is curved which allows breeze to flow under. So it's better in summer for sure !
    Also the front door is mesh only..there is NO inbuilt zipped (yellow) screen.
    So the outer fly is basically your solid screen.
    So yes..there is a lot more air getting thru..probably not a good tent when it's really cold perhaps or if you don't want snow getting in under the outer fly

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good points. Niak is warmer than I thought. My buddy just took his on a winter goat hunt to -10f for a week and held up fine. Wouldn’t be my first choice but says a lot about Hilleberg quality.

  • @HUZ9k3s5w
    @HUZ9k3s5w ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent review! (Using Niak, Unna, Soulo and Allak 2 my self. The Allak 2 for winter camping solo when I pull a "pulk" (sledge))

  • @richardclegg5853
    @richardclegg5853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pretty happy with my Akto, but all the vestibule options on the several models you reviewed and mentioned, I see an upgrade in my future, hopefully Santa's paying attention.... EXCELLENT review

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Akto is a great tent. I had a very hard time deciding between that and my Soulo. Thanks for the feedback.

  • @garynesbitt5078
    @garynesbitt5078 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey man. Nice commentary on the Niak. I nearly bought one but opted for the Rogen. 2 huge vestibules with a porch area created by the small cross pole give more versatility for me. Only a 400g weight penalty. But then I live in UK so it’s a very rainy climate. Still like the simplicity of the Niak tho 👍

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I ran a 2-door shelter this year and loved it!

  • @kristaps2010
    @kristaps2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what you didn't talk about is 2 things: 1) hilleberg tents can be set up as inner tent option only for summer/hot weather camping. Optional pole holders are required. 2) ventilation: Anjan 2 and also Nallo has incredible pitching variants. you can put up whole rear of the tent exposing the inner tent. you can put up front completely/ don't forget many variations with doors... I do love self standing. I have Staika, Anjan 2 and Nallo 2 GT, but want Niak or Unna

  • @MurdogHunter
    @MurdogHunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow Jay, you just upped you video game..And you have a camera man too( great job Spencer). That was one of the best Vs videos I have seen for a while. You are a natural for this.
    So why didn't you shoot that ram that was over your shoulder in the beginning of your video ? ...lol just kidding. Looked like a awesome hunting spot. Can't wait for your next installment

  • @Saukkiable
    @Saukkiable ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the good and thorough review! I liked that you both gave your height and weight. I myself am more your size and sometimes I find it really annoying when (the only assumption you can make when you watch a random video!) someone 4/5 my height and half my weight reviews camping gears, tents, hammocks, kayaks, etc. It doesn't matter what is promised in advertisements, shown in schematics or told as an upper limit, the actual dimensions and usability of the products are completely different for people 160cm/60kg or 185/98kg.

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You nailed it man. No substitution for getting in and climbing around to see how you fit. Other than that it’s just numbers on a page. I’m currently in the process of testing 9 x 2 person 3 season tents side by side. Full review will be up by the end of the month.

    • @Saukkiable
      @Saukkiable ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MindfulHunter Sounds awesome! I look forward to it!

  • @dougstephens1923
    @dougstephens1923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video but I just gotta comment that if you are in conditions that pull out the 4 main stakes and all the guyline stakes on a Nallo or Anjan, odds are very high that your Niak is going to be flattened too. Tie off the guylines on some of those willows and they are not going anywhere. With any tent in severe conditions you need to go to the extra effort to find some big rocks and pile them on the stakes, tie the guylines off to trees, etc ...

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You make a good point but I still stand by my original statement that a freestanding tent by nature is more durable.

  •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like video, thought it have provoking logical mismatch compares Niak as one person tent (it’s just small 2p) to Nallo (substituted for Anjan) with GT as two person tent. I would stress to get back to basics - Niak vs. Anjan (without GT): Anjan is slighly heavier but noticably LARGER both in sleeping area (it still 2p ofcourse) and vestibule (even without GT). As for GT, yes it’s great for base camp.

  • @feebsnz
    @feebsnz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your thoughts on the Akto and Enan for solo hunting? Good chat. Following from NZ.

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amazing tents for guys who aren't quite large. I have a video comparing the Akto to the Soulo and thought it was a great tent just a bit small for me. The Enan is basically a three season version of the Akto. You can't beat either for a lightweight option thought.

  • @ianmacfarlane9454
    @ianmacfarlane9454 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @sveinottoaar2543
    @sveinottoaar2543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hilleberg labels the Niak as an 1.5 person tent. Perfect for an adult and a child or a dog. It is room enough for two mattresses side by side for two persons who wants to go very light. The Unna, which is a 4 season and basically has the same construction as the Niak, except the vestibule, is labeled as a 1 person tent. Thanks for sharing 👍

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback but you are incorrect. If you go to their website it is clearly listed in the 2-person tent category along with the Anjan 2, Rogen etc. I agree it is truly meant for 1.5 people but Hilleberg labels this as a 2-person tent in their catalogue. To add some further clarification I actually had an in-depth discussion with Petra Hilleberg during a podcast I recorded with her about this specific tent. It was designed by her Father and Mother so they could use it as a couple on trips where they wanted the lightest possible tent for two people. You can view this podcast on my channel. Cheers.

    • @sveinottoaar2543
      @sveinottoaar2543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MindfulHunter As far as I remember it has since it was introduced in 2016 been listed in the 2 persons tent category, you are right about that. But the name used to be Niak 1.5. And due to your reply I had to check the webpage. It seems like they have removed the “1.5” completely. But the presentation also clearly states what I wrote above. It is also worth mentioning that the Unna is categorized as a 1 person tent.
      You can watch the official presentation video of the Niak 1.5 here;
      th-cam.com/video/_rTqe6yyq44/w-d-xo.html
      Here is also a review done by Gear Institute:
      gearinstitute.com/gear-review/hilleberg-niak-1-5-two-person-backpacking-tent-review/
      As a direct comparison with the ( Nallo ) Anjan 2 GT I think Rogen would be better option. Without the extended vestibule the Anjan 2 and Niak are comparable. I liked your video. That you showed how a person’s height influenced the sitting height / room was definitely a good point. 👍 I will check out your channel. Thanks 🙏🏻

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sveinottoaar2543 appreciate the detailed follow up and still fully agree with you that it would be more accurate to list this as a 1.5.

    • @sebastianforbes1
      @sebastianforbes1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the Unna looks so good... I'm tempted !

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sebastianforbes1 it was tough to decide between my soulo and the unna. Would love to test the unna.

  • @cyclecyclebart
    @cyclecyclebart ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Important note: there is a large difference between the Anjan and Nallo in terms of weight. The Anjan 2 (non-GT) weighs approx. the same as the Niak (numbers from the Hilleberg website), but the vestibule is much larger and easily fits two large backpacks. The only reason why I would buy the Niak (over the Anjan 2 that I currently own) is that the Niak is (almost) freestanding. And reasons to buy the (non-GT) Anjan 2? Same weight as the Niak, more storage area, and lots of ventilation options for hot summer nights.
    EDIT based on the comments below, I would summarize the pros (my opinion!) of both tents like this:
    *Anjan 2* (non-GT): more storage area, more ventilation options.
    *Niak* : smaller footprint, (almost) freestanding, more headroom, side entrance.

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You failed to mention headroom. The Anjan has significantly reduced headroom compared to the Niak. I can sit straight up in the Nyack and drink coffee or eat my breakfast. I cannot do this in the Anjan

    • @cyclecyclebart
      @cyclecyclebart ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MindfulHunter Looking back at your video, I do indeed see the difference in headspace. I don't own a Niak, but according to the Hilleberg website, the inner height should be the same, which it clearly is not. Bonus point for the Niak, although the headspace in the Anjan 2 (I'm also 185 cm tall) has luckily never bothered me.

    • @cyclecyclebart
      @cyclecyclebart ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MindfulHunter One other reason why I personally might prefer the Niak over the Anjan; I prefer side entrance tents like the Niak (or my old Vaude lizard sul 1-2p) over tents with the entry at the front or back. It's just easier to get in and/or access stuff inside your tent... I updated my first comment, and have to admit: the Niak does seem like an excellent choice.

  • @PassagOutdoors
    @PassagOutdoors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Audio in this video is way better than any of your other hunting videos. New mic's?

  • @jonny9884
    @jonny9884 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always understood the Niak to be the ideal one adult and a child, or an adult and a pet tent. Hoping to get a Niak any day now for myself and my 5 year old son.

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s a great tent but there’s no way I’d fit my 7 year old daughter in there with me. Maybe a medium sized dog.

    • @jonny9884
      @jonny9884 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @MindfulHunter In that case, I may have to go for a Rogen instead. My son is as tall, big as a 7 year old already !

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jonny9884 I think you’d really appreciate the dual doors as well.

    • @jonny9884
      @jonny9884 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MindfulHunter True, that !

  • @kartofff
    @kartofff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to sell those (before the Niak came out though) but couldn't afford them. Now a more boring job brings in enough money to buy them, but can't try them out IRL. I've just been looking to replace a worn out MSR for trips with my young daughter, and I'm so satisfied with my Akto I can't even consider anything else than Hilleberg. I was just hesitating between Niak and Nallo 2 (non GT). Your comparison was unexpected and very helpful. Do you reckon the Niak remains large enough for an adult (I'm 6'2) and a small child, given that my trips tend to be everyday mobile and that sleeping comfort is more important to me than overall live-around comfort ?

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends how big you are. at 6'1" 240lbs I wouldn't take my kid with me in mine lol. You could squeeze though if you;re a bit smaller than me. If you can wait 3-4 weeks I am in the process of doing a comparitive analysis and test of 9 different 2p 3 season shelters. COuld be useful info for you.

    • @kartofff
      @kartofff ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MindfulHunter Hello boss. I can't wait too long for now actually. I've taken the risk and shot for a Niak, hoping it arrives before I leave. We should be back in september, and I'll definitely watch your review anyway. Contrary to most youtube stuff, yours is lovingly down to earth. Enjoy the summer ! 🙂

    • @kartofff
      @kartofff ปีที่แล้ว

      So, after all, the website that sold me the Niak had an false indication of current stock. 😁 I ended up with whatever was available during that overall big Hilleberg shortage, and that was a Nallo 3 (non GT). It was perfect. Glad I didn't take the Niak for two people. It remains easy enough to pitch in tight-ish places, even on kind-a difficult ground. And the inner volume makes it super livable for two, even when staying shut-in during heavy rains. Got about 20 nights in it for now, got under two proper serious summer thunderstorms here on our French central highlands, and a few nights below freezing, and the tent performs ace. I'm happy to see the winter slowly gliding near...
      Big thanks again for your really good video !

    • @SJ-fx6td
      @SJ-fx6td ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kartofff Hi, I'm between the Rogen and the Nallo - one thing I often read is that if you are 6.1 / 6.2 your feet or rather your sleeping bag will touch the inner since it slopes down and this might wet your sleeping bag - was this the case during your 20 nights? Thanks!!

    • @kartofff
      @kartofff ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SJ-fx6td Hello 🙂 At 6'2, when I lie flat on my back, the sleeping back does definitely press against the inner tent.
      In the conditions I was in, the inner tent always stayed well dry, and there was no wetting of the sleeping bag. However one can imagine that in proper winter conditions, the sleeping bag would let your toes go cold, being compressed by them.
      Personally I mostly sleep on my side, and when such, there is no contact between bag and tent. I've also used a Nammatj a couple of times, and there was no such issue, the slope is steeper.
      The slope at the feet is one of the two major intellectual annoyances with this tent. The other one being the unpractical door. But none has been a practical annoyance so far.

  • @christianblanche1569
    @christianblanche1569 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No ventilation in Niak?? How to deal with condensation?

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With most double wall shelters it’s an issue regardless of the venting in my experience.

    • @christianblanche1569
      @christianblanche1569 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MindfulHunter Fjallraven doesn't have that issue , double ventilation, cheaper and better insulation , longer on the market

  • @sebastianforbes1
    @sebastianforbes1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dimensions are identical - that's why they have the Cloud Peak 2 ?..

  • @coke0drinker
    @coke0drinker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why didn't you bring your soulo?

    • @MindfulHunter
      @MindfulHunter  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too heavy. Didn’t need a 4 season tent in summer. Niak is bigger and lighter.