Iv been solohiking with the hilleberg jannu for years and now that Im lightening the load, Im in a world of hurt because there's so many interesting stuff out there. The rogen allways catches my eye because even though it's not the lightest, the design is all but perfect with those two vestibules and big Ddoors.
In Scotland had a 3 season tent flattened in 80 mph winds so got Hilleerg tents, ranging from the akto to the tarra. As a testiment to the strength of hilleberg tents, my akto got ripped out of the ground when a 90mph wind gust shot into the door. With me being dragged along as if it were a parahute, holding onto a guyline till the gust died, the damage to the tent was only a slighly bent guyline which hilleberg replaced free of charge.
Thanks and glad it help. For quite a while this tent has been overshadowed I think by the Keron's and Akto's, now the Nammatj, but this tent is very familiar to me, and with all the right design features that I didn't even know I would like. I think I would go Sand with a mesh inner for the heat. Or get the pole kit and a Tarp 10. Would be a very versatile kit.
Sure wish I had a Hilleberg on my last camping trip. My Big Agnes pole shredded from the high winds. Thanks for the review Bruce - I'll be seriously looking at the Hilleberg as a replacement for next season.
Well that sucks. You should join the Hilleberg Owners Group on Facebook if you do Facebook. That is the best group I am a part of and they are so knowledgeable and encouraging. And there are a few riders that post.
Thanks Michael. The whole reason I started doing this was others doing reviews. I just liked how you could hear and see more about a product before buying. A while back I bought all of the cook kits from REI so I could see them side by side which you can't do at the store. I just picked up the new design Anjan 2GT for review.
@@naturecallsoutdoors I'm a carer so been working as usual also been helping out my parents during lockdown. I unplugged my Imac for over 3 months but starting getting back out and doing vids.ATB.
Hi! I know this isn't a new review but I just watched it. Haven't read all the comments but there is onte thing that is a bit wrong with the review. The tent is actually narrower at one end!! I think the difference is 10 cm ( about 3 inches?) so you can definitely say that there is a head en and a foot end! All the specs are easily found on the Hilleberg Web page. I am the proud owner of a Rogen and I can testify that it will take son severe beating by the wind an still stand fast!!! Tested I the absolutely most northern part of Sweden in exposed terrain!! God review!! /JOHAN
Thanks Johan. Sometimes I get a little confused. Glad to hear from a Rogen owner that has had in some serious weather. I think the Red Labels are plenty strong for most, especially where I live.
Thanks Paul. I appreciate your watching. I really like this one compared to my non-Hilleberg same style tents I have. Love the eyelid vestibule, and of course the inner going up with the outer. Non of my other tents like this have that.
Love the review! I have a few questions for ya. I'm looking for a roomy 2 person tent for backpacking, narrowed it to the Rogen or Kaitum. I have an Allak 3 and it's quite burly and heavy for summer usage, but I love the space it offers. Do you think you can have 2 6'/200lbs men fit comfortably in this tent? Also very interested in the Kaitum but concerned about the tent length and pitching, along with the added weight. Would love to hear your thoughts since you've reviewed both tents. I enjoyed your Kaitum review btw.
Hi there. Can you tell me how hot the Rogen is in the summer (without the full mesh inner)? I have the Allak 3 and find that it can be a bit warm in the summer months here in Canada.
Hey Bruce, thanks for your thorough no-nonsense talking videos! Do you plan on making a review of the 2017 Anjan range? I'm especially interested in the Anjan 3. I understand you're rather tall, and since some people are complaining about the sharp slope in the rear end of the Anjan which leads to their feet pressing the inner tent against the outer when laying on a sleeping pad, I'd be curious to get your opinion in that matter.
Hi Bob. I will definitely see if they have a new Anjan 3 when I go in next week. I will get a pad and bag too so you can see what it really looks like.
You said in your review that only the inner could be put up without the outer (which is usually the rain fly in two layered tents). How is that done? The poles seem to go only through the outer, so I don't see how only the inner would hold itself up. I believe these are brilliant tents, but the one thing which seems to be missing is adequate mesh area. So often I put up only the inner to keep out the mosquis and flies, and peer at the universe in the night sky, through the mesh. Or when it is warm, only putting up the inner makes things so much more comfortable. It does not seem to me that that is possible with this tent design.
Hi Phiroze. Hilleberg makes a pole kit that is little cups that attach to the corners of the inner, then the poles go though the suspensions. They also make an all mesh inner that sounds more to what you, and I like. Nothing better than looking up at the stars mosquito free. I think they have pictures of the just the inner on their website. I will pick up a set for future videos.
I would say in an area with light or dry snow this tent should do pretty well. I had a red label out in our heavy wet snow and it held, but I did bend some poles a little. I could have done a better job guying it out though. The fabric held fine. So depends on the snow load you are thinking you might be in. Where are you? I have had lesser tents out in snow conditions, but it was pretty tame like a few inches. Up here in the Pacific Northwest I like the Black Label or the domes that have 3 full poles like the Allak or Staika.
Nature Calls Backpacking thanks for reply. Im in Australia and dont normally camp in snow but it can get very wet and cold. The reason im asking about snow is i want to do a solo winter trek in Tasmania next year. I love Hilleberg but having trouble nailing down a suitable tent weight wise. Was thinking at 2.1kg this would be spacious and not too heavy. I am also considering akto but not sure how big that is for sorting out wet kit. Thanks mate.
Mine leaked on all 4 corners. The silicon fabric sags when wet. You will need to go out into the rain and tighten everything up--several times. The fabric also causes more condensation problems, at least in my experience. And it is VERY slow to dry. Luckily they gave me a full refund. Others have not been so lucky. Also watch out for zip failure in Hille tents.
Yes, it makes another factor for sure. I just got a bunch of the super lightweight fabric and it is way more expensive that the standard stuff. As long as it last though.
Yes Anthony, I asked Petra about dyneema and they found in the same big winds the tent became mis-shapen and would return to correct form, so they don't use it.
How did they make this so light? wow its a real thing of beauty Bruce. The extra pole will come in really handy for light drizzle. I wonder how easy these things are to double pole, thinking this could be the ultimate 3-4 season tent, we don't get too much snow in Northern England! Well done on a top notch review :) Tim
Thanks Tim. If I were younger I could go for a tent like this. I really like my bigger pads these days and so dose Jaylene. I love the designs they are going with though. Has a lot of the tried and true features with some nice updates.
Yes, according to Hilleberg. The rain fly doesn't come to the ground to stop snow and cold wind, and the inner doesn't have fabric doors basically. Would I use it for my normal winter use, probably as it is strong enough for basic snowloads. But if you are going out in serious conditions I would go with a true 4 season tent.
When you were lying in it, it didn't look like a 2-man tent, but a roomy 1-man tent. However, I think the same thing about my Allak 3. If it weren't for the Allak 3 on the label, I'd think it was a 2-man tent. But that is standard. I've always known to subtract one man for comfort from the manufacturer's designation.
Hi Steven. What is your use case? I would go wth the Rogen for what I mainly do, backpacking in fairly normal circumstances and places. I would go Unna if I was more of a severe winter type that had very little space to erect a tent. Or if I was just a minimalist that loved working the inner on a Hillie.
Nature Calls Backpacking Thanks for the advise am going to go with the unna I think as I need a good all round ie day to day backpacking and on the mountains 👍
Nature Calls Backpacking Thanks for the advise am going to go with the unna I think as I need a good all round ie day to day backpacking and on the mountains 👍
Iv been solohiking with the hilleberg jannu for years and now that Im lightening the load, Im in a world of hurt because there's so many interesting stuff out there. The rogen allways catches my eye because even though it's not the lightest, the design is all but perfect with those two vestibules and big Ddoors.
I agree. Seems like it doesn't get a lot of press. Being in the US this is the style of most of our tents, just improved. I would easily use it.
In Scotland had a 3 season tent flattened in 80 mph winds so got Hilleerg tents, ranging from the akto to the tarra.
As a testiment to the strength of hilleberg tents, my akto got ripped out of the ground when a 90mph wind gust shot into the door. With me being dragged along as if it were a parahute, holding onto a guyline till the gust died, the damage to the tent was only a slighly bent guyline which hilleberg replaced free of charge.
“Bent guyline” 😂
Been researching for weeks. Your delivery and explanation sold me. Now to find what colors for hotter weather. Thank you.
Thanks and glad it help. For quite a while this tent has been overshadowed I think by the Keron's and Akto's, now the Nammatj, but this tent is very familiar to me, and with all the right design features that I didn't even know I would like. I think I would go Sand with a mesh inner for the heat. Or get the pole kit and a Tarp 10. Would be a very versatile kit.
The colour of the tent has no influence on the temperature, as Hilleberg says.
But then again I wouldn't choose black for summer.
Thanks for the review, thinking about the Hilleberg Anjan or Rogen, but self-standing seems an advantage so might go with this one.
Great review, very informative. I do miss a view of the tent in its tentbag, just to see what size it is packed.
Greetings from Norway
Sure wish I had a Hilleberg on my last camping trip. My Big Agnes pole shredded from the high winds. Thanks for the review Bruce - I'll be seriously looking at the Hilleberg as a replacement for next season.
Well that sucks. You should join the Hilleberg Owners Group on Facebook if you do Facebook. That is the best group I am a part of and they are so knowledgeable and encouraging. And there are a few riders that post.
Just joined :-)
Great review! Your reviews are always thorough and from a nice user/maker point of view.
Thanks John. I would love to sit with their designers someday and really get into the thought process of their designs someday.
I just bought a rogen wanted it in green but I had to go with red , still excited lol wife isn't as happy
Wish the inner tent had a double fabric door - it's the night wind can get cold in NZ, even in summer, so it would be nice to keep it out
Always enjoy your reveiws 🇬🇧
Thanks Michael. The whole reason I started doing this was others doing reviews. I just liked how you could hear and see more about a product before buying. A while back I bought all of the cook kits from REI so I could see them side by side which you can't do at the store. I just picked up the new design Anjan 2GT for review.
Very helpful Bruce I just ordered this tent. ATB.
That's great to hear. I have been taking a break. Hows it been for you?
@@naturecallsoutdoors I'm a carer so been working as usual also been helping out my parents during lockdown. I unplugged my Imac for over 3 months but starting getting back out and doing vids.ATB.
Hi!
I know this isn't a new review but I just watched it.
Haven't read all the comments but there is onte thing that is a bit wrong with the review. The tent is actually narrower at one end!! I think the difference is 10 cm ( about 3 inches?) so you can definitely say that there is a head en and a foot end!
All the specs are easily found on the Hilleberg Web page.
I am the proud owner of a Rogen and I can testify that it will take son severe beating by the wind an still stand fast!!! Tested I the absolutely most northern part of Sweden in exposed terrain!!
God review!!
/JOHAN
Thanks Johan. Sometimes I get a little confused. Glad to hear from a Rogen owner that has had in some serious weather. I think the Red Labels are plenty strong for most, especially where I live.
Thanks for making a great review. Helps so much when making buying decisions….
Looks like a solid tent.
Thanks for the video
All of them are nice and solid. Your Gunnison has lasted a while too though. Thanks for watching
I'd say about 5 years now.
Nice vid Bruce! This tent looks nice.
Thanks Paul. I appreciate your watching. I really like this one compared to my non-Hilleberg same style tents I have. Love the eyelid vestibule, and of course the inner going up with the outer. Non of my other tents like this have that.
Lovely tent. Enjoying your videos, really good content mate. 👍
Thanks OI. I appreciate you watching. Took a break, but getting back into it. Hopefully the Anaris soon
Thanks for the video ! Could you pliz tell me how long the poles are when packed down? Wondering about pack lenght of the poles.
Great review Bruce! Those zippers look solid. Nice porch as well
Thanks. Just spent some time with the Hilleberg company today talking all about the zippers too.
Love the review! I have a few questions for ya. I'm looking for a roomy 2 person tent for backpacking, narrowed it to the Rogen or Kaitum. I have an Allak 3 and it's quite burly and heavy for summer usage, but I love the space it offers. Do you think you can have 2 6'/200lbs men fit comfortably in this tent? Also very interested in the Kaitum but concerned about the tent length and pitching, along with the added weight. Would love to hear your thoughts since you've reviewed both tents. I enjoyed your Kaitum review btw.
Nice review!! I like this tent. You did a great job explaining the setup and its features Semper Fi to Your son!!
Thanks Lee. I am sure you knew what I was talking about. I love learning all those little bits of information.
Hi there. Can you tell me how hot the Rogen is in the summer (without the full mesh inner)? I have the Allak 3 and find that it can be a bit warm in the summer months here in Canada.
Hey Bruce, thanks for your thorough no-nonsense talking videos! Do you plan on making a review of the 2017 Anjan range? I'm especially interested in the Anjan 3. I understand you're rather tall, and since some people are complaining about the sharp slope in the rear end of the Anjan which leads to their feet pressing the inner tent against the outer when laying on a sleeping pad, I'd be curious to get your opinion in that matter.
Hi Bob. I will definitely see if they have a new Anjan 3 when I go in next week. I will get a pad and bag too so you can see what it really looks like.
Wonderful, that's greatly appreciated. Looking forward! Thank you!
You said in your review that only the inner could be put up without the outer (which is usually the rain fly in two layered tents). How is that done? The poles seem to go only through the outer, so I don't see how only the inner would hold itself up.
I believe these are brilliant tents, but the one thing which seems to be missing is adequate mesh area. So often I put up only the inner to keep out the mosquis and flies, and peer at the universe in the night sky, through the mesh. Or when it is warm, only putting up the inner makes things so much more comfortable. It does not seem to me that that is possible with this tent design.
Hi Phiroze. Hilleberg makes a pole kit that is little cups that attach to the corners of the inner, then the poles go though the suspensions. They also make an all mesh inner that sounds more to what you, and I like. Nothing better than looking up at the stars mosquito free. I think they have pictures of the just the inner on their website. I will pick up a set for future videos.
Thanks so much.
Gday Bruce sorry for late post. Just wondering how this would go in winter and snow.
I would say in an area with light or dry snow this tent should do pretty well. I had a red label out in our heavy wet snow and it held, but I did bend some poles a little. I could have done a better job guying it out though. The fabric held fine. So depends on the snow load you are thinking you might be in. Where are you? I have had lesser tents out in snow conditions, but it was pretty tame like a few inches. Up here in the Pacific Northwest I like the Black Label or the domes that have 3 full poles like the Allak or Staika.
Nature Calls Backpacking thanks for reply. Im in Australia and dont normally camp in snow but it can get very wet and cold. The reason im asking about snow is i want to do a solo winter trek in Tasmania next year. I love Hilleberg but having trouble nailing down a suitable tent weight wise. Was thinking at 2.1kg this would be spacious and not too heavy. I am also considering akto but not sure how big that is for sorting out wet kit. Thanks mate.
Thank you!
Mine leaked on all 4 corners. The silicon fabric sags when wet. You will need to go out into the rain and tighten everything up--several times. The fabric also causes more condensation problems, at least in my experience. And it is VERY slow to dry. Luckily they gave me a full refund. Others have not been so lucky. Also watch out for zip failure in Hille tents.
Wow, sounds like a horrible. I had never heard of anyone experiencing anything like that. Glad you got a refund. What did you end up getting?
I like this tent i wish they would make it in red or black label so i could get one for later season sheep hunts
This tent is supposed to be 47" down by the foot area and 51" in the other end.
My only issue with the Yellow Label tents are that they cost more than the Red Label ones.
Yes, it makes another factor for sure. I just got a bunch of the super lightweight fabric and it is way more expensive that the standard stuff. As long as it last though.
Hillenberg tents are tough, knock the socks off any Dyneema tent here in UK tent you can trust in extream weather.
Yes Anthony, I asked Petra about dyneema and they found in the same big winds the tent became mis-shapen and would return to correct form, so they don't use it.
How did they make this so light? wow its a real thing of beauty Bruce. The extra pole will come in really handy for light drizzle. I wonder how easy these things are to double pole, thinking this could be the ultimate 3-4 season tent, we don't get too much snow in Northern England!
Well done on a top notch review :) Tim
Thanks Tim. If I were younger I could go for a tent like this. I really like my bigger pads these days and so dose Jaylene. I love the designs they are going with though. Has a lot of the tried and true features with some nice updates.
The sleeves are designed to be double poled. Double poled the tarra with 10mm expedition poles.
nice review, thanks
Nice review! Dig the Chicago shirt at the end. 👍 🏕
Thanks. It is new to the t-shirt collection and quickly became a favorite.
Nature Calls Backpacking Living in the Chicago area, I have never seen that Chicago, Pepsi logo style t-shirt.
Very nice bruce great review !
atb john
Thanks John. Glad to see you out this year.
so its a 3 season tent?
Yes, according to Hilleberg. The rain fly doesn't come to the ground to stop snow and cold wind, and the inner doesn't have fabric doors basically. Would I use it for my normal winter use, probably as it is strong enough for basic snowloads. But if you are going out in serious conditions I would go with a true 4 season tent.
When you were lying in it, it didn't look like a 2-man tent, but a roomy 1-man tent. However, I think the same thing about my Allak 3. If it weren't for the Allak 3 on the label, I'd think it was a 2-man tent. But that is standard. I've always known to subtract one man for comfort from the manufacturer's designation.
Iam in... when the gaw drawing??? Haha
Me too LOL
Wouldn't that be great!
Rogan or Unna please help
Hi Steven. What is your use case? I would go wth the Rogen for what I mainly do, backpacking in fairly normal circumstances and places. I would go Unna if I was more of a severe winter type that had very little space to erect a tent. Or if I was just a minimalist that loved working the inner on a Hillie.
Nature Calls Backpacking Thanks for the advise am going to go with the unna I think as I need a good all round ie day to day backpacking and on the mountains 👍
Nature Calls Backpacking Thanks for the advise am going to go with the unna I think as I need a good all round ie day to day backpacking and on the mountains 👍
@@Steven17011980 Great tent. Bring a tarp to make a vestibule if it calls for it.
Hilleberg Bot???
HILLEBERG IS WITHOUT COMPETITION
I agree