Is 15-year Old Car ban an Attack on Consumer Rights?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2024
- Due to increasing Air pollution Govt has banned cars older than 15 years in the Delhi NCR region,
it could be a good thing for the environment but What about the owners who have put their hard-earned money into the second most expensive purchase?
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Imagine if this rule gets applied throughout the country then, 1. why would car manufacturers build superior quality vehicles when they're bound to be discarded in 10/15 years? 2. Why would the owners spend time money and effort in maintaining that vehicle? 3. All those millions of vehicles will have to be replaced by new ones. All this would lead to much more pollution. IMO this rule is self defeating, unethical and simply puts the onus on the people while govt.s happily go about their business of collecting taxes and doing nothing.
Completely correct bro..
This doesn’t lead to much pollution as these cars are taken and scrapped and the metal is again used in manufacturing.
Buy EVs. Simple.
This limitation is only on ICE vehicles, EVs don't have this limitation. And EVs have to hold additional weight of the batteries, so low build quality will not support the additional weight. So, all the issues that you stated is only for ICE vehicles.
Agar 15 saal purani bike/car abbhi puc me sahi utar sakti he to kya fayda use scrap karke??
@@pviveknair oh yeah, “buy EVs”. Do you even know how complicated and expensive recycling batteries can become? It is far easier and cheaper to scrap an ICE car and build a new one, rather than scrap a lithium ion battery for an EV.
Also, lithium ion batteries last for the best part of 10 years at maximum before they need to be replaced (you can’t beat physics and chemistry with software), which means an EV Battery would be scrapped even earlier than an ICE car. So congratulations, the newer system of EVs scraps batteries faster than the old systems, and car companies milk more money out of us with absurd prices for the battery packs.
It's absurd to scrap a good, well maintained car in just 10 - 15 years.
My Friend you Made a Little Biased Video 🎥 🤔
USA has more land 🏞️ & Less Population 👪
It is our Own People Mistake who chooses wrong politicians specially in 1980 - 2000 which is crucial period for Planned City Development
Now Chennai is Converting into Sponge City 🏞️
Currently Uttar Pradesh government is also trying to build Bundelkhand Region into Industrial Hub with Nature not against it
Checkout Gujrat Dholera & Gift City - they are working on it from more than 15 - 20 years
We already have Some Planned Cities 🏙️ Chandigarh, Jamshedpur, Noida, Gandhinagar, Bhubaneswar
Maharashtra Lavasa City Failed because of our Choosen Corrupt Government
But according to our rising Population we need more
For which work should have done earlier
& on Parali 🔥 issue different governments has done different work
You can check Haryana, Uttar Pardesh, Punjab Satellite Data of October, November
Yeah I Understand about People's Issue there attachment with vehicle but we don't have much options.
@@PriyakantPanwarBut is this really helping? How much does 10 years old car contribute to pollution compared to a new car? For example, the Japanese cars are engineered to run forever! So, scrapping a 10 year Toyota is pure foolishness. It runs like new! They should do a emission test before doing such things. And periodic car maintenance should be enforced to tackle this. Forcefully scrapping cars will make the situation worse. World is now realising that EV is not the answer. So, Ford, Chevvy these companies are pivoting to hybrid from EV. Same thing applies to India as well. EV is also not a clean energy. And due to the excessive amount of tax, Indians can't affort hybrids as well. Situation is messed up. CNG is a good alternative which should be explored more.
Ur wrong my friend
@@arijit-sen > But is this really helping? How much does 10 years old car contribute to pollution compared to a new car?
If there is no pollution difference betweem BS6 and BS4 then why even bother to introduce new emission norms? Are you seriously saying that manufacturers who spent billions on engine and exhaust R&D are fools and didn't achieve anything?
> For example, the Japanese cars are engineered to run forever! So, scrapping a 10 year Toyota is pure foolishness. It runs like new!
Just like exam syllabus keep changing with times, emission norms also keep changing. A 1980 LC70 will not meet 2020 emission norms but a 2020 LC70 will. Even if it still works same as day 1, that much is not enough for today's rules. If the rules allowed 200gCO2 per km back in 80s theyre like half of that in 2020. You just can't meet the new tech with old.
> They should do a emission test before doing such things.
PuC is a thing you know?
> And periodic car maintenance should be enforced to tackle this.
The moment car warranty is over, people start going to shady garages for service instead of service centre to save few bucks, but it eventually leads to car deteriorating.
> So, Ford, Chevvy these companies are pivoting to hybrid from EV.
The inability of legacy companies to make compelling EV options should not be masked as a failure of EVs, if anything, its the company failure to not be able to make a good enough EV.
Tesla sales are at all time high, why only legacy EVs are failing? Ever thought? Try browsing r/electricvehicles or r/tesla on reddit instead of biased news outlets. Hear from consumers not from twisted interpretations of news presenters
> Same thing applies to India as well. EV is also not a clean energy.
ICE = 100% fossil fuel
EV = 60% fossil 40% renewable electricity
ICE = oil extraction refining and transport
EV = metal extraction refining and production
on production side, both are equally bad. on consumer side, one is 100% dirty, other is only 60% dirty and 40% clean.
> CNG is a good alternative which should be explored more.
people move away from cng because most options are only available in manual, have no boot space at all, and have lethargic performance. nobody wants 0-40 in 4-5 business days
@@PriyakantPanwarI understand your political views. Every one is entitled to have an opinion.
But you can not defend a policy that was always stated to increase new car sales and only as a side effect slightly helps pollution, to not be working at reducing pollution.
In the exact words of MoT - The policy aims to phase out the vehicles which are more than 15-20 years old and to encourage purchase of new ones.
It is high time you also start questioning the people you brought to power for the last decade. Instead of blaming what ever BS governments pulled before we were even born.
Scraping a car , melting its steal, moulding , or creating a new car from scratch creates more polution, we need educated leaders
L Gov
MC government
Not to mention the amount of pollution and CO2 it releases to manufacture another replacement car which the owner would buy anyway
The problem is we have educated people sitting as Judges in Supreme Court that made this law.
Delhi me Highly educated leader hi hai bhai
😂😂😂😂😂
We all should come together to stop these idiotic laws being implemented on us.
But we are very less to stop this
Car is not a thing its a emotion 😢
@@Divyanshgarg3526Car Enthusiast Moment
Right
Sadly my friend vast majority of people in this country don't care if they are being harrassed all they care about is religion caste and their party. All other issues are anti India issues to them.
I mean it is annoying but it's a step towards a greener future
It is not about the pollution, it is a planned lobbying by automotive sector to boost the sales covered up in the same of pollution.
Exactly
Exactly. Government's work is to make our life easier, they're behaving like as if we are peasants
yeah exactly. robbing people of their savings to fulfil the pocket of corporate masters. moreover, there are still much older cars in use in the police department. we can see jeeps that are at least 20-30 years old. So those vehicles are permissible, but ours aint.. waaaah.. RIP logic
@@pritambanerjee1377 wo bhi apne paiso se hi aayi hai unfortunately
Even 15 year old CNG cars are not allowed.
In my opinion the government should allow the owners who want to keep their cars maintained for a long period as a memory because the first car is always emotionally attached to us. Also they need to check the pollution before scrapping any car
I hate this rule i emotionally sent my 16 year old car to scrap yard 😢
U get any money?@@fullgamerji
time or age limit parameter is the most absurd way to control pollution
the proper parameter to control pollution is measuring tail pipe emissions 😢
yeh bs government ki ninja technique h paise kamane ki taxes ke through
Govt want people to buy new cars and bike so that they can get tax.
@@fullgamerji Kaun sa gaari thi aap k pass?
Yamuna river kaa pollution control nahi karenge lekin 10 saal purani car scrap karenge.
Wah mera India 👏👏👏
Mere India mat bol. India desh bahut achha hai. Yaha ki public aur government ki sabse bekar jo India ko kharab karne me lage rehte hai.
This ridiculous illogical rule only happens in india.. Nobody to fight for it.
Well explained ❤❤❤
The people who passed such irrational judgement should be prosecuted. NGT should apologize too.
Yes you are right.
What's even more crazy is that the government still procures the road tax for a period of 15 years for diesel vehicles.
This imposition needs to go away!
Mittroh, maza aya?
@@Roberto-nj5yrKejriwal ki sarkar hai 😅
@@TheHonoredOne484 Stay upto date with the news! Aren't you aware of the new bill that made Governor>CM for Delhi? And who appoints the Governor? Its Mittroh again 😂
Does anyone remember scene from movie pan singh tomar.
डकैत तो संसद में बैठे हैं.
@@Roberto-nj5yrmay be you are updated with the news but let me teach you some polity
So governor can pass ordinance which has life of 6 months and after that it has to be passed as a bill by vidhansabha and only after that it will become a bill and will be applied to a state so all governor can do is either sign on it or secure it to send to rashtrapati but this bill doesn't affect the national security so all governor can is either sign on it if and if he don't do this it will be undemocratic and so it shall be challenged in supreme court
So he either sign on it or loss his position as governor
Thank you for this! Scrapping a car after 10/15 years means owners won’t spend the time or money to maintain them, meaning more pollution while they’re on the road.
After scrapping, the car needs to be replaced by a new one whose production adds to greenhouse gases.
Instead of these rules, make it easier to keep existing cars on the road. Nobody needs useless new gimmicky features.
My car from 2005 is still much better for the environment than anything these stupid policies can achieve.
Yes
From 2005. Somebody's gonna come knocking at your door 😛
Your car is almost as old as me😂
This Scrap model of government is exactly not to tackle pollution. It’s more to collect taxes and keeping the economy running. People will buy more cars and government will be able to collect more taxes and cash flow will increase in the market.
Government can do lot of other things to stop pollution but they’ll not because other measure will not contribute to economy.
totally agree, Car companies are paying politicians to make such stupid laws
Exactly new car bnane me bhi carbon emissions hota or energy bhi bhot jada consume hoti h esse acha to purani gadi ko check krke chlne dia jae
@@__Bishnoi029 uneducated
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thats just bs but when you realise it car companies sell new cars at a tax and guess where the tax goes it goes straight to the govt the RTO so the govt is finding a way to make more tax by forcing owners to buy new cars
@@skgamer-zs6en your might be correct... one of this is true for sure
It's very sad to let a car simply go for scrap after being emotionally attached to it
RIP for delhi cars 😔
Especially diesel car owners😢😢
@@DivyankKaushik you have a diesel car?
What about Electric cars ? 🧐
This law applies to whole India
@@jawadaffan745yes well maintained Innova Crysta 2.8 Z (AT)
Thanks for covering this important issue.... government should stop harassing middle class family we can't buy new car... please allow us to live peacefully
I feel worst to live in our country where we have these kind of rules
Not only you there are many who feels the same these lawmakers and politicians sucks don't know even the basics.
Bro, you can take citizenship of african countries & Afghanistan. Scraping policy doesn't exists there. You can drive 100 years old car also there as long wheels are working.
@@josephmonibiswas4785 pls pay for our relocation to new country
@@josephmonibiswas4785 tell that to amerixan with their 70s mustang. Government bootlicking at its finest.
This just adds to the lists of reasons why I want to Leave India.
mee too i just hate this country🤮🤮🤮
Hmm
This is another form of license raj and most of the severely bad thing in India are a spinoff of license raj. For example the slums in cities are a result of development authorities run by bureaucrats. Basically making rules based on theory created by babus and then enforcing these rules at any cost without feedback.
Check what is happening in Europe now with 15 minutes cities coming owning a car would become punishing.
Where will you go bro 😂😂
@@mountolympus1098 anywhere but india
These laws are made at the behest of automobile companies to force people to change their cars even if they are in good condition.
In the past, cars were passed from one generation to another.
What about vintage cars, should they all be scrapped because they are more than 15 years old?
As long as cars are within the pollution emission norms, why should they be scrapped?
Exactly
100% correct 👌
Vintage cars have different rules and there are some conditions
Not just for automobile companies but for government revenues too. The governments earns lot of taxes through sale of new cars. Just looting our pockets. Cars are still treated as luxuries in our country sadly.
It's called lobbying
people should protest against this unnecessary rules..
I completely agree with the content in this video. The residents of Delhi NCR have to suffer every year due to crop burning when the Air Quality drops by huge margins on a day to day basis. Instead of tackling this problem, the government and the NGT punishes the very residents of Delhi NCR by not allowing their BS4 diesel vehicles to ply on the roads. The classic mentality is lets just put all the onus on the tax paying middle class living in the cities because they barely constitute as a solid vote bank. No political party would dare accuse the mass perpetrators and risk losing their support.
In 2019, we had to sell our Santro because of 15 year rule, it was a heartbreaking moment because it was not only our first family car, but also the moments and journeys we had lived through it. By the end of this year, our second hand i10 will also complete 15 year period, we rarely drive it once in a month, even though it runs like butter at this point, we will have to scrap it by mid of this year and book a new car. It just puts a huge financial burden. We could use the same money for some sort of investment but we will end up paying EMIs. Automobile companies are the biggest benefactors of this policy and I am pretty sure that they must have lobbied this policy and pushed it on our throats. People of Delhi and NCR are so unfortunate that not only we have to breathe bad air, but we can't even keep our vehicles with ourselves. Every year, the prices of cars has only been hiking, forget about electric vehicles, even a base model swift costs 7 lac on road these days with no safety or amenities.
Why do you guys don't complain? Ask the government to provide data on how scrapping a 15 year old car with pollution certificate and buying a new car is more environment friendly than using the same old car for an additional 5 years.
Governments are to serve the public, not the other way around.
Same with me had to sell my old car because of new rule…now purchased new car which increases financial burden on me.
Let the government ban only the public transport vehicles, government officials vehicles and trucks and scrap policy on passenger car has to made for 20yr old cars based on the pollution certificate. This will be a fair idea rather than forcibly making the owner scrap their cars. Also government should give 50% subsidy for anyone buying an electric vehicle.
If your're ready to sell your i10 lemme know, can give it a second life in my state
😂😅😊 I will give you 30,000 rs now for i10
Scrappage policy should apply to ministers and MLAs who do nothing but make life of citizens difficult
😂 ministers n mla will change their cars every 2 to 3 years with our tax money
@danieldayal2570 he meant scrapping the ministers 😂 not their cars 😂
🤣🤣🤣
Yes, it's called Assassination.
The government is charging a huge tax on the vehicle, which is higher than many advanced counties. Then forcing to scrap good condition Vehicle. The vehicle is no more a luxury item, many people buy it with their hard earned money. This scrapping policy is not justified for middle class Indians.
He is absolutely right. Ban should be on the basis of emission. There are people who don't take care of regular car maintenance, service and drive rashly and their car start emitting pollution within 2-3 years of purchase.
The towing van pulling the 15year old car seems to be 30year old. LOL.
😂😂 good catch.
your comment should be on top🤣
😂
Epic reply 😂😂
When a TH-camr does more research than your government and it's hundreds of employees.
no the govt is smart. They did this to get profit. The money from scrapping your car and the tax you pay while getting a new car. They are aware that this won't make India any greener. They just want all our money
Thanks for bringing such an important matter to limelight. Govt should amend the rule ASAP and scrapping must be done based on the emission test rather than age of vehicles.
Aapne bilkul sahi kaha sir. Mainbhi ye baat kuch salonse he sochte aarahatha. Ye law lower middle class aur nichey warg k logo k liye bohut discrimination hai. Jo log brand new car afford nai karpata aur second hand car leyte hai unlogoko ye govt policy aur financial nuksan pohunchati hai.
Scarp policy should be based on emission data not the age of the vehicle.
Pata nai kon baddimak neytaon ne ye law banayatha
My father had to get rid of his beautiful small Alto just because it was getting closer to 15 years even though he drives very selectively and had less that 20K kms. It’s a shame that government brings such rules where seniors citizens have to go through so much emotional and financial hardship.
We have our 2004 Alto parked up in our colony, a car which you have had for so long feels like a family member, a living organism. How can one sign the death warrant of a family member themselves?! The government is obviously doing a scam with citizens!!
Same bro feel your pain
20k for 15 year period is very less
I think scrapping is done only if fitness is failed except Delhi
Hello, I'm from Brazil, could you tell me if these vehicle age limits are valid only in Delhi or throughout India? How does that work there?
Just so you know, the vehicle used to pick up the cars is at least 20 years older than the cars themselves( like any other government owned vehicles) . If you can't follow a law yourself, why force it to others then?
Exactly, these b**** won't let us live happily in our India🥺
Rules for thee but not for me.
Thanks a lot for the eye-opening video.
Sincerely,
A Delhiite.
Prashant bhai, another exceptional video from your treasure trove. Only you have the audacity to delve into such a detailed discussion on this particular topic. I completely resonate with your perspective on unnecessary/forced decisions. Many cars under PUC scrutiny, influenced by those in authority, are imposing it bluntly. As you pointed out, it hasn't led to a significant reduction in pollution levels, and people overlook their misguided choices due to fear. The disposal of EVs and hybrids might pose a significant problem in the future. I also hold a differing opinion from the IIT Kanpur report, stating 38%, as greater results should have followed this step otherwise.
Any new law in India when introduced will be implemented in the worst possible way. Whether it's about bailing out hardcore criminals, men's rights or vehicle law.
The way things go they are only imposing laws on us ,dumb goverment
I agree. There are never 360 degrees approach to it.
Correction: modi government has destroyed eveything with strange knee jerk laws starting demonetization. No other government has done this kind of destruction for profiting corporate companies.
@@sushant3196capitalism motivated regime only favours the rich
@@sushant3196Correction : NGT is not under Modi's control. Farm waste is burnt under AAP in Punjab. And many more but why should I waste my time explaining.
This is really absurd. This law must be challenged in court. Totally unfortunate that government only thinks about big corporates and not public who ends up paying 30% direct tax, tax on purchases of items like apartment, car and even insurance. It's high time government should relook at its policies or else someday will come where many people will leave India and settle in some other friendly country. I love my India but it's really the policies that is making us loosing money like anything and feels like we are working for our government and not for ourselves and families.
And why not just check the pollution of the car and determine whether it is compliant or not. Scrapping working cars and forcing consumers to buy new cars would have a worse impact on the environment. Someone needs to file a PIL and ask the govt. if this policy makes any scientific sense.
Yeah, now I've really made up my mind of leaving India. These politicians are just like Pakistani politicians, though less violent but they only care about religion, money, caste, etc.
full support to you for raising concern of common man with valid reasons
Love u bro👍👍 मेरे दिल की बात बोली भाई आपने, मुझे तो सरकार से ज्यादा अपनी भोली जनता पर तरस आता है, जो विरोध जानती ही नहीं, सरकार जो थोप दे, उसे ही ढोने लगते हैं।
Parali policy should be handled with strictness and automobile scrap policy for 10-15years should be replaced with pollution norm fitness check.
I'm a sugarcane farmer and support your idea. It's more complex than it seems.
Well it's because car owners have less voting potential ie they don't have much numbers to significantly vote out a policy making government as most of them are middle class busy in their own life, whereas parali buring farmers are literally ideal most of the time and have significant population to vote out a policy making government , and that's why we have to suffer and they get to enjoy 😢
@@mukeshkumar-of4up for example so called farmers protested for a year around national capital & govt knelt down. Spending couple thousand rupee per acre they just use one matchstick to solave crop stubble problem.
@@mukeshkumar-of4upagreed..
Very good suggestion
As an Advocate, I suggest, Traffic Police should be provided with the hand held devices to measure the pollution limits of vehicles on the road and if they exceed pollution limits then only the vehicle should be seized. 6 Months pollution certificate is kind of useless, most autos are roaming with black smoke.
🤣😂. Of course, you will suggest that. That is when disagreements happen and they will need a lawyer to intervene.
Personally, just outlaw ICE vehicles and move to EVs, for certain class of vehicles.
Aur ye "handheld device" banayega kaun? Tera baap ya teri maa? Look it up, there already are mobile test services deployed on roads by Govt. The whole point of this video is lost on you.
@vaibhav38west I have also seen the same scenario. Autorickshaws run on LPG here in Kolkata but some of them pollute a lot but they are not at all fined for that. There is complete mismanagement of all law enforcement across the country.
@@pviveknairso you think evs are pollution free 😂 a typical li ion batteries will last max 7 years after that there's no infrastructure for proper lithium disposal and also 80% of the total electricity comes from coal that's worse then petrolium and also the batteries alone cost 50-70% of the total value of car its like puting your head in bucket and thinking now its night 😂😂😂
@@blackbiker3718 Till now there was no economy of scales to make lithium disposal profitable. But soon this will come into place. You do understand that the efficiency of these coal plants are still more than the efficiency of all the ICE engines. They can be optimized unlike engines, so how is it worse than petroleum?
Also, there is no way to reduce pollution if people continue to use ICE vehicles. But there is an opportunity for customers to setup solar plants to charge their EVs wherever possible and save cost & environment.
Prakash bhai aapka dil se shukariya❤ is video ko bnane ke lie main kabse chahta tha aap ispar video banao humare desh m gov kuch kamo ko bilkl sochkar nahi karti hai m agar ek car owner hu aur mne apni gadi 15 saal maintain ki ho aur use koi aise scrap kare to kitna hurt hoga islie m bar bar khta hu us ke rules vehicle ke mamle m sabse aache. Kitna bhi gadi rkh lo koi ban nhi
Finally Someone addressed the issue.Keep Going
I have a perfectly maintained 2008 Honda Civic and its pollution is well within the prescribed norm as per the pollution check report.
The car is just absolutely perfect and to be very honest, a significantly better place to be compared to the present cars in the 10-15 l range in the build quality, comfort and obviously performance.
It is absolutely criminal how a perfectly good car like this would have been forcefully picked up and scraped in the NCR region. The 15 year rule is a complete farce and I hope that it does not make its way all over the nation.
Implementing the scrap policy based on the pollution check would be far better idea.
We also have to consider how a new car would also have a initial pollution debt that is required to build it and then assuming it is more eco friendly than the old car, it pays off that debt over time and in some cases, it would not be able to do that, or make minimal gains. At the end of the day, it would be a major loss for the consumer. We need to remember that Reusing in one very important aspect of going green, along with Reduce and Recycle.
I hope there is some sort of pushback against this poorly thought rule.
Thank world economic forum and eco terrorists for theses policies. They've been publicly stating their agendas for years now.
All I want to say is, You're one lucky person my friend to own a Honda Civic FD1 and trust me, Civic FD is one of the best looking cars out there and happy for you that you own a timeless design Internal Combustion 4 banger piece of gem. I get so happy complimenting a Honda Civic. Cheers!!
I had to sell my Skoda Octavia (model 2004) in 2014 when this rule was enforced. It was in very good condition and I still love that car. It's a very bad and harsh rule. Good diesel cars are fuel efficient, powerful and very sturdy to drive but are becoming extinct and the new refined engines do not pollute much either 😢 Stubble burning which is responsible for such big pollution is not stopped or even fined.
Very absurd rule.
And also please make a video on what impact the EV's discarded batteries have on pollution.
Thanks for a very important video. I love your work.
You are 100% correct. Emission n age of car/byke is irrelevant to scrap without owner permission. Is India Democratic country or Dictatorial country. My car 20 years old Santro xing (56000km) I am 66 year old n i cannot ride byke n not efford to buy a new car. I have paid Rs. 18000 for 5Years RC Reregistration and Rs.4500/-(1year 3rd party) paid for Insurance at AP. Insurance not accepted comprehensive policy after 15 year old cars.
I condemn the Govt. Act of scraping old cars/Bykes are unfair. As you mentioned the car manucrurers of Petrol/D vehicles shut down their factories how many people become unemployed. Factory employees, dealer , work shop, spareparts, mechanics croresof people became unemployes rather pollution effect the Government face unemployment problem.
The days are not far when the citizens would need to come on road due to all these stupid judgements. And we give 1 lakh fees to RTO for small cars and 1.5 lakh plus (Maharashtra) and above for mid size cars/premium cars.
🙏, Please suggest Route 26:- Amritsar to Kanyakumari direct Hyderabad, Bangalore to Madurai Route 27:- Amritsar to Kanyakumari via Hyderabad, Chennai, (Full Kerala State) Route 28 :-Amritsar to Kanyakumari via Ahmedabad Full Konkan Coast to the Malabar Coast.
Something I feel is we are not living in a free society
We are still living in license raj and the goverment decides when you sleep, what you eat and where you live. DDA is another example of license raj in Delhi.
We are living in a free society just like Americans are living in a free society . In their own bubble 😂
Illiterate lawmakers and conservative bureaucrats will never accept the fact that this convenient rule is actually creating more waste for the environment and more financial losses for the average citizen. This agenda is not intrinsic to vehicle enthusiasts but affects all vehicle owners in the region. Agar ye china wala method adopt kar lenge toh inn hi ko extra kaam karna padega aur unki sarkari naukri kathin ho jaegi😎🤝😎
Right.
gone are the days, where IAS officers are considered epitome of intellects , they are most stupid people in the country, example being this law, and see the states like Bihar/ Jharkhand. Absolute idiots sitting in the power and passes such law.
China is a far sensible country than india no matter how much indians hate. We need to accept it that our country is corrupt top to bottom and we need a genuine mass revolution against these absurd taxes and corrupt politicians. This is the reason we can never cars like land cruiser or pajero classic. These legendary cars too will be scrapped in india though these can run for half a million kms. We must learn something from saudi arabia. They too dont produce their cars but they dont have any import restrictions as such.
Instead of learning from America's mistake our corrupt leaders with bureaucrats are hell bent to make it worse like America in future . Automakers are happy and so does the corrupt officials 😏
Search "you will own nothing and be happy" or "eat the bugs". These are the people pushing these laws, our govt also pays lot of money to these unelected tyrants.
Absolutely correct. Emission test should be the only criteria for scrapping vehicles
People should come together to educate the government
Thank you for talking about this topic. I recently had to sell my 9 year old diesel vehicle. With 85k km on the odometer. It was in perfect running condition.
It was absolutely illogical because-
1. Car was in perfect condition and was not polluting.
2. We had to spend money on buying a new car.
3. And there was no reduction in overall levels of pollution in the city.
Absolute waste!!
I know a uncle who kept his VW vento like a small kid, even in 10 years it looks like brand new not even a single scratch, he was asking me can he extend it to another 5 years or not. I can't explain his emotion in the words. plus he is a senior citizen ( not earning), I am sure he can't afford another VW, which almost comes in 15 lakhs.
Delhi government is only blaming Vehicles for pollution. They aren't blaming burning of paddy in winters which is the actual cause of pollution because Punjab government isn't doing anything to stop burning of paddy.
Punjab govt kuch kar bhi nahi sakti . Agar farmers ko kuch bolo toh Puri state band kr de ga
@@galeech754 jab AAP ki Govt Punjab mai nahi tha tab Delhi Govt Punjab govt ko hamesha winters mai dosh deta tha Pollution ke liye. Ab jab Punjab mai AAP ki govt hai toh Delhi Govt chup gayi 🐸
And for Electric cars the electricity comes from burning dirty coal so how are electric cars cleaner? Fcking stupid ppl
It's industry which has contribution highest to pollution but no government dare to stop industry
Farmers ko kuch bolenge toh farmers firse protest m utad ayega. Even aap log jo yea comment kadh rahe ho, idhar bhi bohot bande aake kishan ka support m ulta sidha bol dega. Kuch nahi kadh sakte.
Now you are not buying a car, but a lease on a car.
Ban politicians older than 50 years
Senseless law
There are many vehicles on road which are within their age limit but make more pollution, in most cases these are commercial vehicles
On the contrary, due to this rule, people will be forced to buy more and in turn it will increase more carbon footprint.
Most of politicians, who make rules neither have proper education nor much intellect, and they make such rules
Instead of protesting against the hit & run law, we should all start petitioning against the scrappage and vehicle modification laws of India.
This country needs more creators like you to build a perspective related to Industries. Kudos to the quality of content. Really Appreciate like all your other such videos.
keep it up! high quality content!😀
If scraping of a car is justified by the govt, then it means they don't have trust in the PUC certification method.
Emission should be the basis of usability of vehicle, not the age.
Everytime I feel like paying tax, videos like this remind me why I don't.
More than government i find supreme court idiotic who ordered to implement NGT rules without deep dive into the pollution pattern. The highest contribution in NCR is DUST, followed by industries, vehicles and then (everyone's favorite) parali. Govt want votes so that do these blame game, but why Court. 😅
Dude any basic calculation hints the paralli from Punjab easily produce more than 116100000tonns of pollutants in air, within 2months while they are burned, that is 5X more than what's produced by all vehicles in India combined (based on total petroleum consumed by India).
It's not blame game, it's an absolute fact.
Just that when entire state is full of criminals, can not call them criminals.
And reduction in 4% pollution is a lot for Delhi. All old cars not only burn more fuel due to poor efficiency, but they all cause traffic congestion and they increase chances of accidents.
Punjab is more than 250km away from Delhi. Haryana, Rajasthan and UP border Delhi. These 4 states were also pulled up by SC for burning stubble.
@@RMNewton992 The situation in Punjab is no better than Delhi.
You drive from Faridabad to Amritsar, the sky in always gray in October & November. I am seeing this since 2007.
So what if it's 200km away, where will that smoke go? Is there some rainforest between Punjab and Delhi?
Why every 2nd child in Pb, Hr, North Rajasthan & Delhi NCR, has Asthma problems??? Even the once born in 1990s.
I don't know a single Punjabi friend who himself or his siblings don't have lungs problem. And it's NOT heredity because non of their parents had any such issues.
Anybody who burns parali must be jail, only problem is there are just too many of them.
Itne padhe likhe log honge to wo Indian Court me kyun kaam krenge
Sab mile hue hain.
You got a mature audience for sure.
Other wise this comment box would be filled up with abuse calling you Anti Nationale or Chinesee.
Most people are so hind sighted these days about legitimate criticism.
Power to you for bringing up this oppresng law
Brilliant & highly relevant informative video.
You highlighted an important issue, especially mentioning the problem with stubble burning which is the primary reason for smog in Delhi.
The carbon footprint of buying a newly manufactured car is much more than the pollution created by old cars.
I absolutely do not agree with this rule. When company are giving out BS 6 compliance vehicles then new technology vehicles should have more age criteria.
Your efforts in raising awareness about social issues play a pivotal role in catalyzing positive change within our communities. By shedding light on diverse social issues, we spark vital discussions, challenge detrimental norms, and champion solutions that advance equality, justice, and overall well-being for everyone in our nation. It's imperative to actively participate in dialogue, continuously educate ourselves and others, and take purposeful actions to effectively tackle these issues. Together, we can collaboratively strive towards building a more inclusive and equitable society.
Did you use chat GPT to write this?....This sounds suspiciously corporate.
Yes I did use chat GPT, to rephrase my statements. Yes it does sound suspicious, like I care.@@FoxyCAMTV
Paise de ke EMI bhar ke car aap lo aur 15 saal baad uska malik Govt ban jayegi🤡
To kyu Leto ho bhai car is lixury
@@mountolympus1098 Abey car is a luxury wale din gaye 20th century me jee raha hai kya? Abhi ek middle-class aadmi bhi car le ke ghumta hai aur luxury hi hoti to banda emi pe naa leta aur chal luxury bhi maan le to iska mtlb ye hai ke govt ka uspe kabza ho jayega? Car pe tax, road tax, patrol, service, insurance ye sab karne me govt ne 1rs ka bhi contribute kara tha Kya? Bhagwaan ne zubaan di hai it doesn't means kuch bhi bolega tu.
@@mountolympus1098
Bhai phele spelling seek luxury ki. Dusri baat middle class luxury cars nhi kharidta. Vo just 10L ke under ki lete hai and that's the part of a family requirement of metro city
Why don’t we protest against such dictatorial laws
Bcz this generation is useless 😅😂 sab busy hain apne apne mein shadi naukri or family planning 😂😢😅
@@balajik8672bhai reels dekhne aur banane me busy hai sab
@@adityachowdhary5775 😂🤣 Ekdum main bhi same! 😂
@@balajik8672this generation kaunsi generation ki baat kar rha hai?
@@balajik8672and your generation voted for a government that kept india backward for so long. You guys aren't any better. Sorry.
Instead of taking care of older cars and making them last longer, they want us to buy new cars. This whole process creates a lot of pollution in itself.
I have multiple points to state on that
1. If they are limiting the age of the car then why are they still asking for PUC? If a car has a predetermined age then why is the consumer harassed over PUC?
2. If it's just about the car then the government could at least give free registration on the new car as the consumer is supporting the cause, then the government must also play its part.
Highly maintained my car. A CNG, not even contributing to emissions, still had to let my best friend go for scrap😖
i think a petition should be made against this issue to fight for our own loved vehicles
Govt be like:- New car kharido aur humeh aur mota tax dog. Road tax wagera. Self legalized chori hai ye.
वोट बैंक की राजनीति चलती है हरियाणा यू पी और पंजाब में, वोट बैंक ने खराब हो किसान नाराज़ ना हो इसलिए इन राज्यों की सरकारें किसानों के पराली जलाने पर कोई एक्शन नहीं लेती हैं और उनको खुली छूट दे रखी है
😮Wow.. Govt. is towing diesel vehicles that are past 10 years.. but what about vehicles used for towing?🤔 Does the 10 15 year rule not apply to them? Towing trucks, buses, govt vehicles etc?? 10 15 year rule is just a joke for us normal people 😂😂
They are 100 year old 🤣🤣🤣
@@arjudas5163 😂😂 💯
So in brief, you pay heavy taxes on purchasing car, then taxes on operating and using it(toll taxes and fuel taxes), then technically you would be paying half your amount on gst and indirect taxes as a car owning middle class citizen... And then you might expect your govt to control taxes, pollution, stubble burning, proper roads and Streets with wide running space, dependant population control and proper City planning but rather, your govt just steals your 15 year old car with 20 year old towing truck which might be older than MATER😢
Outright thuggery and theft of private property, owners need to form groups and sue the authorities, even if unsuccessful, at least it’ll get attention in the media.
This rule is to increase Govt revenue as after tobacco and alcohol, Car is most taxed product in India. But it is interesting how after paying such high taxes the quality of road isn't improving (not talking about highways as we're already paying toll for it)
Very relevant video. I think you covered most of the points. One more thing I want to add is that making a new car also add to carbon emissions. So just scrapping an old car and replacing with new one, doesn't mean you reduced pollution. Equivalent or probably even higher amount might be getting added for making a new car.
Exactly...and the same argument goes for EVs as well. Just because you are not polluting on day to day basis does not mean that production of your car had no carbon footprint!! But most people just don't understand this math!
@@myselfyuvi oil doesn't come out of bathroom taps
The mining for extraction refining and transport of oil is same if not worse than battery production
@@shresthsonkar9207 Once we have fully renewable sources for electricity your argument for EV will make sense. But, what I know currently, most electricity is still being generated from Thermo electric sources here.
@@shresthsonkar9207 Thanks for enlightening about that. I almost always thought it does come out of the taps! ✌️
Jokes apart, The point here was that those who are rushing for EVs are failing to realise that India still doesn't have major lithium mining or battery production capabilities. The most of those batteries are coming directly from China. So it is hard to figure out 'How much' pollution all that infra will be causing. Also, the toxic garbage created by old batteries is another problem we will have to deal with. By the time India builds all this infra within the country it will become clearer if the EVs make any major difference to the pollution levels or not.
@@itsvarung If we consider the grid usage in charging, the 100% coal scenario (worst case), the avg grid emissions as of 2020 was 614gCO2/kWh or 0.614gCO2/Wh. (Figures taken from page 5 graph of this pdf : theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/EV-emissions-impacts-India-apr2021-01.pdf)
An EV like Nexon can get efficiency of 120Wh/km
An EV like Tiago can get even better at 100Wh/km
By this calculation, a 100% coal powered Nexon EV has a running emission of 74gCO2/km.
For Tiago EV it’s 62gCO2/km.
For reference, you can check emissions of common Maruti cars, cars which are known for “kitna deti hai”. As rule of thumb, more mileage = less emissions
Pdf ph11, indexed pg6 : theicct.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/India-hybrids-wp-FINAL.pdf
All Maruti cars except baleno SHVS are above 100gCO2/km. Baleno makes the cut barely at 99.6gCO2/km.
That’s when we counted 100% coal power. In reality only 60% is coal which puts nexon and Tiago at 44gCO2/km and 37gCO2/km.
pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1785808
This is purely tailpipe to smokestack comparison
As of today, EVs are 19% cleaner all things considered theicct.org/publication/a-global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars/
So before you say “but what about battery production”, remember that oil extraction uses electric/diesel pump. 40% of global shipping is just for oil and it’s derivatives, and refining again uses electric furnace or fossil fuel burning to generate heat for fractional distillation. Conservative estimates put oil refining alone at 2-3kWh/litre
qz.com/2113243/forty-percent-of-all-shipping-cargo-consists-of-fossil-fuels
When you add all this to the mix, you’ll see why EVs are better (one time mining + 92% recycling efficiency)
It’s oil extraction which must be compared with battery production as the logical analogue
Crude oil and refined derivatives of oil make up 40% of global shipping by weight.
qz.com/2113243/forty-percent-of-all-shipping-cargo-consists-of-fossil-fuels
Global shipping produced 646M tons CO2 in 2020 (IEA) 40% of that is 258.4M tCO2 or 258.4trillion gCO2 www.iea.org/fuels-and-technologies/international-shipping
In same period, oil production was 93.9M barrels/day or 14390 Million L per day, or 5.45trillion L per year www.iea.org/reports/oil-2021
Adjusted emission in gCO2/litre = 47.4gCO2/litre
Applying the same to refining, at 614gCO2/kWh like the article assumes for the grid, is 1535gCO2/litre (assuming electric furnaces used for fractional distillation) in 100% coal power and for 60% coal this is 921gCO2/litre of oil.
Now adding 47g from shipping ie 968g.
Out of this, roughly 40% becomes petrol. elements.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-the-products-and-fuels-made-from-crude-oil/
Net “emission backlog” = 387g/L (40% of 968)
When adjusted for mileage, the oil supply chain will be 19.4gCO2/km for Tiago (387/20)
For a Tiago driven at 20kmpl for 1,60,000km, the emissions just from fuel supply chain (before being burnt) itself is 3096kgCO2 (3.1tons) before being filled in the tank itself.
www.mckinsey.com/industries/automotive-and-assembly/our-insights/the-race-to-decarbonize-electric-vehicle-batteries
Battery production produces about 100kgCO2/kWh but the main point here is that this is a recyclable entity. An equivalent Tiago EV will cause 2.4 tons of CO2 emission for battery but the emission would be 3.1 tons for ICE during same use period, which is way higher than EV battery. Due to the oil extraction, refining and transport emissions.
The breakeven can be calculated very simply through the intersection point of linear equations.
For Tiago EV Tiago petrol you can look at this graph here : i.imgur.com/CtxzCvw.png
First equation (2.4t for battery one time and 37g every km in current scenario)
Second equation (2.4t for the battery and 61g every km when 100% coal)
Third equation (0t for battery + 19.4g for oil supply chain every km driven + 100g for tailpipe every km driven)
I’m using baleno SHVS tailpipe as reference for Tiago so it should be fair enough.
All in all, the breakeven for Tiago is barely 30K km in current scenario (60%coal) and 40K km for worst case (100% coal) scenario
I'm really fed up with the laws! To escape this rule the only thing i could do is to replace the engine with a new one. My car is 9 years old as of 2024, and hyundai still makes the engine in bs6. I'll just swap it ngl. I live in Chandigarh, but my car is registered in Delhi. Agar ye trick na chsli to anyway i'm moving to the US. And somehow i will take my car with me. Uda is greater than India. In everything for me. Government se khudki gaadi scrap hoti nhi. Aajate hai duro ke sentiments ko scrap karne.
bhai kaise le jaaoge? is it possible to do so? im scared for our santro its 25 now in few months its registration will expire, back when we did fitness it was easy to do so but now we cant, and our city just turned 15 its registration too will expire in few months
sell me your car
@@RRareGaming bhai 25 saal purani hai fir to easily US Jaa sakti hai teri santro. 25 year old cars and older can be easily imported into the US. I still can import mine though because jack jugaad har jagah chalte hai
@@rohitror3352 I ain't selling you shit
Instead of focusing on scrapping a vehicle prime focus should be on the fitness of the vehicle doesn't matter it's age.
There are so many people who don't maintain their vehicle's fitness doesn't matter it is new or old.
Sahi bola Hain aap..
Govt should check the condition of the car and the emission they are producing
Buying New cars now is no less than a Nightmare for my finances
it's the first time is see something very positively said about the wrong doings by our government, people slog for years to buy a car and due to the rules they have to loose what they have sloged for.. very sad situation in our country, as you said car is not just the only medium of polution there are many other factors which polite the air but unfortunately nobody is taking action ont them since it's a profit making thing for some few .....
Instead of motivating car companies to develop better emissions control systems, we are being told to spend money every 10-15 years.
Funny thing is that the 10-15 year old rule doesn't implement for government vehicles 😅😅😅😅 corruption at its peak in India.
I agree with you sir , this issue must be raised, yes it is an attack on consumer rights
We should do engine fitness test!!
Or they should allow us to do new engine swap!😏😍
V12 Engine in Wagona R gonna Be Fire xD!
krdi na asli car lover wali baat😂😂
@@ayushdhiman6087 thanks!😊
@@RegMaYTNot v12 W16
@@RegMaYT w16 would be cherry on bottom
Superb video and every single thing mentioned is absolutely genuine, but gundagardii of ngt and other bodies is growing because janta in Delhi NCR is dead and not retaliating at all this is so unfortunate for the car owners who love their vehicles like their children and maintain them utmost.
Brother you have drafted the issue very correctly. Retiring your beloved working non-polluting vehicle is a very sad and painful scenario. I have driven my Audi A8L 5000kms only in last 13 years. How can I scrap it.😢
What about companies who make cars bring new engines for older/ sentimental cars.
Depending upon car type like Sedan, Hatchback, SUV, MPV.
The thing is only engines emit gas and cause pollution not the chassis.
Chassis contains metal and other electronic components that can be reused.
In US people upgrade engines to older cars.
Why not in India.
Engine is everything for a vehicle.
👏👌💯💯
Good point 👍
With 30% or more tax + toll + expensive petrol/diesel, it is better to not own a car in India if one has to scrap it in 15 or 10 years.
Besides, this regulation will severely hit car re-sales market. No one would wants to buy paying any decent money to a used car if they have to scrap it in 5 years or less (for diesel cars). For petrol cars to the takers will be few in re-sale car market.
Drop in re-sale market for cars is good in a way.
Laws like banning films on cars and banning cars after 10 years are draconian in my opinion.
I havent faced any issues yet, i ride a 1979 model Enfeild and 1982 model Mahindra Jeep
couldnt agree more ... if we are being very honest EV cars is more for city driving, if you have to go on a long road trip ev cars are not practical especially hills.
If you ask me honestly this rule is most beneficial for car makers and that lobby is influencing this ban even more as they can keep selling new cars while there is no good used car market in NCR atleast.
India me bhaiya koi right wight nahi hota. Jo government ka man me ho wahi chalta hai.
This rule was made not to curb pollution. But to increase the sale of modern vehicles and also as a showoff to the growth life style by force
Forcefully taking away someone's car is violation of basic property rights
Very well explained issue and yes the vehicle should be scrapped based on tail pipe emission rather than age factor. I think the customer of old vehicles in NCR should be given a choice to convert their cars to CNG if the customer still wants to keep his/her vehicle. I have seen a lot of customers are already practicing this method both for petrol & diesel.
Brother Diesel running cars can’t be converted to CNG running cars because of their bulky engine
@@japmansingh3383 bhai comment karne se phel thoda research karle 🤦🏻cars ki chodo yaha tak ki trucks be CNG mei convert karke chala raheha companies delhi me.
@@SaiKiran-fp1biThough I am from Kolkata, but I am seeing a lot of Trucks registered in Delhi with CNG cylinders.
@@SaiKiran-fp1bi The ones which are factory fitted CNG are tuned for using CNG.
just because something CAN be done, doesn't mean it SHOULD be done
Tomorrow if the engine seizes then also you will be the first one to tag and complain to authorities on twitter despite doing un-certified modification to the vehicle
@@snackler6102 yes as if oil comes from bathroom taps
just last few months during chennai flood there was huge oil spill
and thats the accidents, 40% of all the global ship fleet transports just oil and its derivatives, oil refining uses lots of energy (and cobalt as catalyst) for fractional distillation of crude
and to transport to again from refinery to pumps with thousands of trucks and trains
The Delhi government should seek advice from Shri Gadkari ji.
Gadkari g agree on this rule. He himself driving hydrogen car. 😂
@@sunitization 😂😂😂😂Wahi to . Gadkari ji ko bhi koie idea nahi hey ground reality ko le kar
Nitin gadkari bol ji bolneka jarurat nahi
@@sunitizationhydrogen ghar pe aati hai kya? EV charger to boht dekhe hydrogen pump toh ek bhi nahi dikha aaj tak
@@shresthsonkar9207 vo to aap gadkari ji se pucho, vo jyada confuse hai isme ki ev lau ya hydrogen 🤣 industry ki badn baja rakhi hai aur consumer rone par majboor hai 😂
Well said... answer to the last question, why government is not taking action against other reasons of pollution?
1. Owners of businesses and factories pay huge tax and election fund to the parties.
2. Income from Tax on manufacturing + cess received on sale of new car will decrease if they let the old vehicles running.
Basically, sarkar or sarkari logo ka khajana bharte rehna chyee. Aam aadmi bhad mai jaaye 😂😂😂
The main point to think is-
1) Doesn't manufacturing a new car cause pollution? It requires procurement of raw material, processing of it, transportation and using machines and labour to work on it!
2) Doesn't scrapping old car which is new, conditionally, cause pollution? Scrapping takes palce via machines! And then their reprocessing also requires work and doesn't that cause pollution?
3) What about people who regularly maintain their car, drive less, use high quality engine oil and parts, get their turbos/intercoolers cleaned, get their catalytic converter cleaned, those cars which even after 10-15 years don't cause pollution, isn't their scrappage a waste of resources and energy?
4) If a car owner is forced to scrap his car even after he is forced to pay road tax beyond the life of car, shouldn't government relax tax?
4) What about parali burning? What about industry?
5) Don't ev manufacturing require battery production from mines? Doesn't that cause 5-10 times more pollution than normal car? Is it necessary that an average person will drive that ev beyond 1 lakh km to compensate for it's high price and pollution caused during manufacturing?