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We know you bimmer boys have been waiting for this one… a proper BMW M4 showdown!!
Mat’s in the new M4 ‘Lite’, the M440i, and he’s going up against both the new & old BMW M4! The question is, does the all-new wide-grilled M4 have what it takes to snatch the win over the competition?
Well when you look at the stats on paper you’d think it’ll be in for an easy win! With a 3-litre straight-six twin-turbo under the bonnet, it can put down a mighty 510hp & 650Nm of torque. As for the old M4, you’ll find the same size engine up front, although it can 'only' produce 450hp & 550Nm.
Then we have the M440i, which may also being powered by a 3-litre straight-six, although it only has a single turbo. As a result, it can produce 374hp & 500Nm of torque. Its weight is almost identical to that of the new M4, although the older model comes in about 150kg less than them both.
However, the M440i has one key advantage compared to the M4s - it’s AWD! Will it make the difference? There’s only one way to find out… LET’S RACE!
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Hi Mat here. Have you got over the new M4s grille yet?
Vote: New M4
I guess so but I like old ones more
It looks alright, but with the black or that dark blue color, not that ugly yellow. And the M3 looks better
its beautiful
Nein
That old M4 is a real thing of beauty.
Yupp🥺❤
M4 is a beast on their all generations🔥
Totally agree 😍 I was thinking exactly the same
Looks very dated now.
💯
The previous M4 is such a proportionally beautiful car. I just can't get myself to like the front of the new one. And I tried hard.
New m3 against new m4 is much better tho...
@@honza2755 agreed
@@honza2755 no
I saw the new one on the motorway yesterday in grey. It looked unreal 😂 I want one now
I hate the new m4 grill ..prefer the old one
Can't believe we are already referring to the beautiful F82 M4 as "old" ...
My dream car fr
I know I’ve just bought one 2018 plate Comp… feels new 🤣
ikr I really hope i can buy one in a few years
@@anthonywainman5200 🤣
@@dova238i might beat you to it 😂
Old m4 you will never be forgotten
I thought I was getting used to the new look of the M4, but seeing it next to the gorgeous last generation, yikes never mind
At 7:30 for example, everywhere I look, the angles, lines and proportions are just spot on with the previous gen.... where it’s the exact opposite for the new one... for every line and every angle it looks like they had their eyes closed while designing. Nothing seems to mesh.
@@MKu64 New from side looks like mustang wannabe, front grill looks like an ass. Only rear is pretty nice, overall it's total design failure. Every angle is out of propotions. But doesn't matter - fanboys will buy it anyway.
Also performance wise
The grass would be greener they said...
I have to agree the old m4 is just so gorgeous compared to the new one
Look at the stance of the old M4, just a timeless piece of engineering. Jesus, it's gorgeous.
Old design is soo much better
Exactly what I was thinking
i’ve always wanted an F82 M4, and i’m so disappointed with the new M4’s because it means i’m limited to F82’s which don’t last many miles, and are usually beat pretty hard
Exactly!! It’s just soo beautiful
No walrus teeth at the front
Old M4 Looks absolutely stunning compared to the new ones. That thing will age VERY well.
What's funny is that people found it ugly when the competition package was announced lol.
That green beauty is the definition of "old but gold"
3 things that are certain in life
1: death
2: taxes
3: people asking for a mat vs yianni running race on a carwow drag race video
M4 is a beast on their all generations🔥
Nice one
Lol its good because when mat goes to the comments he will see all the "mat vs yanni drag races" and he will see all of them.
we all know we wanted to watch mat vs yianni running race, walking then to running race and stopping test to see who can stop faster while running
24HotGirls.com q
The "old" M4 is already a timeless beauty
@Do One you could not be any more wrong
@Do One someone had a bad day.
I’m truly fell in love with the old one.
@Do One I take it you are an Audi fan
@Do One Engines are good in this M cars. Dont talk bullshit
*i just bought a F82 M4 and i couldn't be happier with it*
That new m440i has a great price to performance ratio
Was lucky to be able to grab the M4 Competition just before the 2020 WTLO requirements for CO2 fleets came in, TRL was doing deals just shy of 53k
And later on it will have a good tuning potential.
"we only appreciate good things only after we loose them"
The old M4/M3 were gorgeous
So I
We also said that when e92 and f80 came out
@@harveywang9516 nah the new car looked better, and this is coming from a e92 owner. The old car sounded better though, that sweet v8 music.
Just to clarify i was talking about the last gen m4. The beavertooth model is disgusting
@Do One Apparantly, "anyone with a brain" doesn't know how to use it :(
@@ztunelover I also prefer the new one. My point is that people always hate the new car as if they know better than car engineers.
The „old“ M4 is a Masterpiece.
That’s definitely a beauty.
it’s funny how much criticism F80/F82 got over the years for being the worst M3 ever
Anyone know the name of the paint on it? Very nice green
Yessss
@@kornypony You said it was right! Stupid people in this world are always circulating. These people are always talking contradictory things and doing contradictory things.
To this day, I still prefer the old M4. It's a masterpiece.
Same, those new grilles are 🤮🤮
You can’t afford the new one
@Nass grant don't want to afford it lol 😆😂. I'm happy with my RX-7. Maybe you can't afford it
@@aldotabora2371rx7 is such a beautiful car
Seeing the old m4 side by side with the new one really shows how much better the old one looks... From every angle.
Agree 100%! 👍
Disagree u just need to lower the new m4 and add an adro,Vorstiener, or csl grille. And a carbon front splitter. For instance look up "adro g82 m4 competition blue" thats the best looking m4 ever made
The old M4 looks just amazing. Love it!
looks outdated.
@@axcn4733 So does your mother but you still love her right?
24HotGirls.com e
@@axcn4733 so does your grammar.
not only outdated but also childish.
That old m4 is beautiful, I'm an Audi guy, but this car's proportions and lines are perfect.
The first generation 4 series was a total crush for me and I'm not even a BMW guy
i remember even way before all those big kidney cars were leaked i thought to myself damn.. that face of the M3/M4 is soo perfectly BMW, how in the world are they going to improve that next gen?? turns out they didnt lol
(at least the 5 and 8 series still look good)
You mister, took the words right out of my mouth! I'm an Audi guy as well, but find that old M4 really attractive.
audi gang
Bmw ruined their design with the new m3 and m4, its really a turn off, im glad they didnt mess up the m5 and the m8
Exactly
As a daily driver I would pick the 440i, I mean with speed limits everywhere (unless you live in Germany), blowing the doors off many fast cars from traffic light to the next seems more realistic
I think that in addition to the added burbles on the old m4, they tweaked the transmission tune. Why would anyone simply tune in additional burbles and not use the tune features to improve transmission and power? I think the BM3 tune allows for all of these parameters to be tweaked.
Holy shit just realized how beautiful the old m4 is
Yeah and he tried to downplay the price of them now because its the previous model. But the old M4 Comp is still holding its value , 50k-65k STILL
Two M's picked one up this weekend, 12.5k miles snagged it for 64k from the dealership. Fully loaded m4 comp
@@TheMafiaBlessing what state you in? I got my m4 comp vert fully loaded with 48k miles for 60k 😩
Defo f82 is my fav car The grille of the g82 grille is kind of growing on me but i will never pick it over my baby f82
@@twoms159 sadly in this economy. I was about to pull the trigger on a comp back in 2020. 36K miles, asking $39,000 for a 2016. Now they sell for roughly 50K + for that mileage 😭😭😭
1000 days later and you’re still waiting for a bicycle race between Mat and Yianni
And don’t forget, running race to!
And while theyre racing on their bicyles they should make engine noises
@@kilian20v IKR LOL 😂
M4 is a beast on their all generations🔥
Imagine how yanni would run in that drag race lol
This was probably the most beautiful carwow drag race I have ever seen!
Mega! Exactly the race I was hoping to see one day on your channel. Thanks! One win definitely goes to the old M4 and that is that it looks better :D
This comparison shows how beautiful old 4 Series is lol
The old one was perfect
Until the new dentures , just plain ugly
Old M4 was so perfectly designed back in the day,to be brutally honest, it's like they have degraded the design language
B
They just stole the Mustang design and gave it a huge ugly grille... lol
@Do One this M4 was designed way back in 2014 , that's why I wanted to mention that it's been a long time since they updated it.....
Old M4 is fast becoming a future classic, beautiful car! I'm gonna have to get one before its too late!
To be honest @Matt the way you carry your show is priceless, your'e awesome Man, keep up the Good work.
The new M4 is you and the old M4 is the ex she told you not to worry about.
Sounds like she has a type and it’s fatties
Hi. I'm 420d
Mr Russo, Is this really you?
Boy don’t tell me how I look.
@@ota024 nice to meet u ....my name is mister 418i 🤣🤣
“You must see it in the flesh”
“It’s growing on me”
“It’s not that bad”
Then when you put that thing next to the old one you realize what a disaster they have made.
Yep. Seen one the other day and even in black on black on black. It's awful.
Then you realise BMW always do these outlandish things and it’s not that serious 🤷🏿♂️
To me it’s not even the grill that I hate it’s the side profile ! It has no character at all, it doesn’t look like a bmw really
Yea I definitely get this point, but I do remember when the 720s came out ppl thought it was legitimately hideous... and now look at it. Now this ain’t no 720s by any means but...
Yep, exactly
In the UK with the weather we have, an M#40i X-drive version of every BMW, would probably be all you need up to a 70mph speed limit.
Very nice comparison. Thanks so much. Greetings from Germany ;)
Seeing both M4s next to each other I just realised how beautiful the old one was :D
new one is way better
@@paul4292 you should check your eye sight, it's clear that something is wrong with it
@@petkokrushev3840 You need to have your priorities check if you think you have any right to boggle down on what someone likes or not. He likes the new one, you don't. Go eat dong.
@@rkvoldom9818 and you should check the definition of a joke and how not to be as cringe as you are: " yOu nEeD tO hAvE YoUR pRioRitIE..."
Was or still is?
That old M4 looks so badass. I'm not a BMW fan but that model of M4 was a pure machine and really a beauty
Looking at this video, I think the previous gen will absolutely demolish the new one around a twisty track. It's almost as fast as the new one in a straight line and that weight difference will definitely help in the corners.
"two coffins at the front" had me dying
There’s a reason nostalgia exists- the old M4 is a perfect example of it..
That's not nostalgia. That's just good design.
E46 ♥
Same with the C7 and C8 RS6.
Not nostalgia, just simply more beautiful
Well said bro, well said
New M4 looks like a hot wheel. "Old" M4 looks like a masterpiece
Definitely 😂
yeeeeees
What year is the dark green m4?
@@johnnybravoo3451 2014-2017 pre lci model
True
I really love how you talk, your gimmicks and stuff, keep doing what you do mate
A perfect BMW would be the F82 M4 car with an V8 from the M3 E92
+new M4's interior
Not even bmw fanboy but God damn the old one looks absolutely stinger!!!
I quite like the new one honestly, its a really nice looking car. Regarding the grille... its fine, could be smaller, but eh, I don't mind it. Old one looks nice, but does look a bit dated.
@@adelaideautowashes nah I don't hate it for the grill I actually hate the body proportions of it
The f80 is one of the most beautiful designs bmw has ever made imo
F82*
Z8: am I a Joke to you??
@@Carpcontrol 850csi
Agree it is nice however the E46 is best imo.
@@JackHackett1 that E46 is 👌
I jus bought the old m4 comp in san marino blue 2018, and i must say im proud of how it came up against that new m4 💪😍
Brilliant race
The old green M4 is beautiful!
@Do One yes, book a time quickly!! For yourself.
@Do One you’re in all the comments expressing your hatred towards BMWs...maybe don’t watch videos on them then?
That old M4 is such a beautiful machine 😍
Yes with the new one the side lines also look disappeared
@@Infinito_T frankly the new M4's side profile doesn't look good at all IMO
Thanks so much for the video!
Beautiful seeing both M4’s playing fetch 😭🙌🙌
That old M4 didn’t actually do so bad off the line. Whoever owns it knows how to launch it 👌👌
It's rear wheel It's hard to launch without spinning
actually there is nothing you can do wrong when launching. the only thing you can do is decreasing or increasing a little bit the rpms
No way it’s stock guys, trust me I’ve got a F80 with a simple BM3 tune which ads at least 50 HP for stage 1 only. Sure maybe no bolt ons but running 12 flat on a damp surface and beating the G80 in a roll race??? Nope...
@@sixmillbaby and they said lowering it wont help with performance 🤦🏽♂️ it literally eliminates wheel spin
@@stefanomarcellino6701 You’re right and the roll proves that it’s tuned as well. Car would have spun through 2 on a damp surface.
Isn’t it interesting that Mat deliberately picks the slower car only when
Yanni is not around? How clever... 😂
Very true
Would had been interesting to see yanni and mat in both the new and old m4. They would be going bonkers on a dig and roll considering both cars here were super close.
The old m4 is such a beautiful car. Saw one in the same green color this week but damn😍
Love this video! Sickening how close they are in a drag race...and even tho the new m4 grew on me, the old m4 looks better still. The new one looks..de-masculinated. It barely looks different than a 440i.
This is a testament to just how great the f8x generation was
@Do One 😐
Do One not really but you do you bud
Resale on the Old M4 just went up. Also, old M4 looks way better ;)
@Do One Well that's also true 😂😂
@Do One stop the cap 😂😂
@@weddingskenan4155 what he said was actually mostly correct.
@Do One someone rlly doesn’t like bmw lmao. But besides that. I love my f82 and have had no reliability options in 2 years now. Done 2-3 track events also and the car has ran strong since. And f80/82 m4 and m3 cars used sell instantly, so not sure where you got that from
@@itsumarc7 They honestly try to bash onto anything whilst other cars have interior rattles and fitment issues from the get-go lmao
I love how that other "spoke" the Deutch language 😂. He sounds like Charizard in a good mood 😂...
Love the kick downe
6:00 the bump in the bonnet just looks so nice and aggressive. I can't understand how BMW could remove this distinguishing feature on the new one.
The new one looks smoothed out. The old one (F80’s) looks buff and sculpted.
@@samsonchan1488 I can't agree
The "old" m4 is simply a masterpiece. What a beauty..
Yeah but that should have had v8..
@@roshanstarboy bmw v8? meh, the i6 itself isn't easy to work on, can't even imagine putting a wrench inside a bmw 8cyl engine bay
@@PHOENIX-xj3gz come on it should be nice have something that sound wey better than a straight 6... That old m3 had one rytu
@Do One true but my 2012 f30 is kinda going strong tho, but i agree that bmw literally doesn't care about reliability 😑
@@roshanstarboy True👍🏻
I'm proud of you mat I look up to u, mainly bcz your doing something u love and making money by doing so keep waking.
Very interesting drag race indeed ..
Oh man putting the new M4 beside the F30 really makes you appreciate how good the old BMWs looked...
Besides the F82 u mean
@@AJ-pe4kl same thing
@@villepekkala There is quite a big difference in looks of the F82 and F32 though...
@@peterhammer6915 He didn't even say F32 which wouldve been a 4 Series Coupe but F30 which is the 3 Series limo lol
@@villepekkala the same thing? An F30 is a 3 series saloon. A whole completely different car 🤦♂️
Lmaoooo “bugs bunny teeth machine” 💀
Awesome fight! Like it...
That old M4 is just another level. Why is the new one is 150kg heavier? Also the old one’s clutch is faster😆. And of course the look of the old one🔝
I swear the old m4 is one of my dream cars. It's just so beautiful
Who else still loves old M4 Comp?
Count me in
Nobody beats the F8X
Still have mine Manual only comp yadada will be rare I'm betting due to me not ever letting it go
@@moonwalk6404 The E92 M3 does but this F82 in this green color looks incredible. I had both the E92 M3 (mineral white) and F80 Comp (speed yellow).
Good lord the old M4 is gorgeous 🤤 would take the F82 anyday ❤
Be interesting to see the rwd cars being put on the wet side of the run way and see how well they perform against the xdrive on the dry side
More reasons to keep my old M4 Comp! :-D
Same
The reality is the new M4 is a vast improvement and in 4x4 it will dynamically perfect for everyday use, I speak as a current M4 comp and previous non comp owner, my M4s have both tried to kill me on undulating B road non comp, and in the wet acceleration is on the limit, my wife has just replaced her Audi A4 with new 330e due to company car benefits, and the interior is so much nicer than my M4, and new M3 is better looking than M4, all the fuss over grill is nonsense compared to Audi grill
^^^^ BMW M division Rep.
@@alanwayte432 Dont disagree with you mate but its what I like about mine. I have a feeling the new M4 is a bit too 'safe' and a bit too sanitised and clinical. No doubt it is dynamically superior (you'd like to f***ing hope it is!) but its getting more towards being a two door M5. Its a heavy beast and closer in weight to an F10 M5 than the F82. Plus its uglier than Vanessa Feltz licking piss off a thistle....
@Do One Yes...that must be it.... Funnily enough, I dont buy cars simply for their resale value. Buy em to enjoy em. Can you say the same about your Kia?
How pretty is the old one and with a similar level of performances. Nothing else to add
The old m4 definitely had a tune, it’s called bootmod3 I own one, the only way to make the burbles. So the stock g80 m4 beat the old tuned m4
roma5733 it’s not tuned. You can burble tune without adding power
@@roma5733 Matt even said the car wasn’t tuned...
@@roma5733 Not true. All F80/F82 Competitions had burbles from the factory in Sport+. Mine was bone stock and burbled like crazy.
@@1v1qsns he said “fitted a thing to make it pop and bang” that thing is called a tune, bootmod3 does this, the car is definitely tuned, a stock m4 does a 1/4 mile in the mids 12.5sec. So if the owner only fitted that “thing” he definitely fitted another thing to make the car go faster. 12 sec 1/4 mile is definitely tuned, and some bolt ons
Love the way he looked right and both of them were just gone lol
Thta green on the F82 looks stunning... would love that on my F80
When you said "bugs bunny teeth M4"I hit my head on table laughing 🤣🤣🤣
No you didn't
@@ryankov honestly my head hit the table as I was laughing 🤣 🤕
Look at that “old” M4, just beautiful 😍
That car literally made me a bimmer fan 😥
Matt Watson is a beauty and I get all warm and fuzzy when he says hi at the beginning of the videos 😁
Estoy super orgulloso de poder haber tener un f36 y ahora un f21, la serie F de BMW ha sido muy conseguida en todo! 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💖
That m440i is comparatively insane for it's price and real world usability!
F82 lovers where are you?
Nowhere cuz its F80 for life
Here
F80 everyday
The f82 m4 is literally my dream car
Right here
Old M4 is beautiful… I just wish the interior was cared about a little more. It would be the best car on the market in my eyes for that price range
Yep I agree. I have a 440i F32 and its beautiful to look at on the outside but the interior is a bit of a let down. It's well screwed together but just not very inspiring. I get in my mate's RS3 and that's the polar opposite, boring on the outside and stunning on the inside. I keep toying with the idea of trading mine in for an M4 before the demise of petrol cars but every time I almost pull the trigger I look at the interior again and I lose a little bit of interest.
@@thelastemperor3704 Big facts bro! I wish the F32 had the G80s interior. I would’ve been switched over from my S5
@@zaycali215 Without a doubt, the difference is night and day. I love the Merc C class coupe interior visually as well but it feels cheap once you start prodding around.
@@thelastemperor3704 really? i was actually looking into buying a c63s amg. the interior and exterior are beautiful but if it feels cheap it makes me second guess that
@@zaycali215 the AMG might be better but I looked at a C300 and it felt very plasticky. I looked at an A35 As well and that was the same.
I’ll agree that the old M4 has the best body lines, of the group, but in all fairness it is lowered and sounds like it’s got spacers etc, all which helps with the aggressive stance. I like the new modern grill design, but the side view belongs to the old M4 for sure!
The old M4 looks a thousand times better then the new one
Give it time. It looks very dated to me already.
M4 is a beast on their all generations🔥
You should slap yourself in the face
I thought so to until I saw them both next to each other. Old one looks exactly that that now....old. G80 and G82 look so much better than the F80 in the flesh....but that's only my opinion
Nope
That old M4 looks absolutely beautiful 😍
Do
We need a comparison of performance diesels please Matt!
Interesting. Definitely illustrates the 'diminishing returns' thing. I really couldn't want a new BMW though - that grill!? Yeuch!
That old M4 has the best looks by far. Looking at it from side view just completes me. It's literally irreplaceable.
The old M4 has to be one of the best looking cars ever made
Agreed f80 looks even better
But the interior is ugly
@@rs3performance515 lol how
I know this is an old video but just curious if you happen to know what the size of the rear tires were on the M440 X-drive?
That’s interesting as I have an F80 M3 with an Evolve tune 500hp plus on M sport wheels and Pilot cups
the old one is very close in performance and also much more beautiful ! so for anyone who has bought it, it's what I call a perfect purchase
The M3 New looks better then anything!!!
Honestly it's such a nice looking car, kinda surprised even with the 100+hp difference in old vs new m4 it was so close, but 100% wud go for old m4 just for looks, they rly butchered it with the new one,more of a merc guy but credit where credits due its such a class car the old one
@@emilmanoj8841 unfortunately ist the f82 m4 in the video not Stock
@@srbishkrst how do u know? Lot of people said its not stock cuz "since he put pop n bang exhaust tune obviously he tuned it more on engine " etc
@Do One Having fun with your emojis pal? Lmao let people like what they want
_Bugs Bunny Teeth Machine_
*LMAOOOO😂😂😂*
Seeing this "real world'" launch difference between that awd M440i compared to the launch against the new rwd M4 makes me even more intersted to see how quick will the new awd M3/M4 be, vs what is estimated in writing for them so far.
2.9 seconds 0-60
Love my F82 competition!
"3:02" How many time do you wanna use that girl count down sound??
Carwow editor : "YES"
AHAHAHHAHA
In every race all I could think was, ‘what a great looking car the old M4 is, and..........’ 🤣
Hii, i like all ur videos...
plz make one single video on BMW M4 vs M440i the differences... plzz...
I think it would be far better Matt if the weather permits when you are doing sound tests if you would put your window down ! 👍
"...maybe if I didn't have two massive coffins stuck on the front, I might have a hope of calling it a win..."
Carwow, April 2021.
Off the line the 440 is a killer, wow
Because is XDRIVE ;p
Downpipe and tune and its a rocket gapping hellkitys lol
Wait til M3 with X-drive comes 😜 fastest 0 to 60 (roughly 3.5 sec) even faster than new M3 Competition (3.9)!
@@chrissalimi8708 I think it will do ~3.2/3.3 with awd, because in a rwd version the system really cuts a lot of power at start
@@coolguy_2997 and you.can only do launch control starting in 2nd gear , in the rwd m3 and m4
Do a Previous gen M4 GTS vs new M4 comp Vs M4 CSL