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I just received my saturn ultra last week. It's not my first printer, but it's my first resin printer. I held off for a long time because of the cost to build volume. I did some research and had prior knowledge of resin printers, but I still took the chance on this as a preorder. Gotta say I'm impressed for many reasons. First-time setup like bed leveling, build volume, build quality, and I can't really complain about the slicer either. I went into this purchase mainly to print drone replacement parts, and now I'm searching through my files for models that took DAYS on my fdm printer because the saturn ultra produces highly detailed prints faster than the estimated build time. If you're getting one, just run every benchmark print you can find, and I don't think you'll be disappointed with the results. *Promise I'm NOT a bot or paid. I only wrote this because I saw another video about this printer and had buyers remorse because of the AXF film and the general sentiment of "Why does this printer even exist?"
As always great video! I've had my Saturn 3 Ultra for almost a month now and love it. It's my first resin printer coming from the olden days of a heavily upgraded Anet A8 FDM printer and I'm absolutely sold on resin printing. Sadly I scratched the ACF that comes with the printer early on but Elegoo still doesn't sell replacements yet. I'm using Saturn 3 PFA film until ACF is actually available but zero issues without changing the settings.
I bought the ultra as first 3D printer ever and i am absolutely amazed by the speed and detail this printer can print really loving this printer and its so easy to use.
I have one that should be arriving any day now. I even ordered a standard Saturn 3 VAT/FEP based on your previous experiments. But it looks like I'll be mostly using the ACF and have the FEP as a backup or when someone wants every bit of detail possible. Thanks for the update and I guess validating my purchase. :)
I switched over my Mega 8k and Mighty 8k printers last month and have had nothing but great prints with ACF. Being able to cut my lift height by 70% _and_ increase lift speed 2x has been a gmae changer. No weird patterns so far!
A more diffuse light (refractive) source will play better with the granular ACF surface whereas a more collimated light source (Fresnel lens) will be more sensitive to the granular nature of the ACF film. Your results make sense.
Is it known that the backlight in this model is less collimated, or more diffuse? I wouldn't equate "refractive" with either "less collimated" or "more diffuse". Just the opposite, in fact. EDIT: clarification: a fresnel lens is a refractive optical element, so really we're comparing a "conventional" (refractive) lens with a fresnel (refractive) lens, FWTW.
I love your videos but I think you should save yourself a couple of quid by dropping the stock footage of randos shrugging/nodding, etc. It's not needed and it's hackneyed at this point.
@@ajc4477 Sorry for the O/T, but that is EXACTLY what I was thinking! It is very distracting and adds absolutely nothing to the video. I would really love to see those go. So, in fact, I would really love to NOT see them at all ;-)
4:33 I always use a short L-shaped USB extender, so it is flexible to prevent drive from breakage due to accidental bumping, and to prevent connector from wearing off due to frequent usage
iirc, refraction is when the input light (to a transparent glass) is below the critical angle (snell's law), the light travels parallel to the glass surface, and refracts up at the critical angle, so every bit of light is parallel. This is clever. Or i am hopelessly wrong.
Thank you after seeing you review i decided to buy saturn 3 ultra after several consideration and meet some colleagues of mine who also own this printer i buy this machine love your others vidio explaining about printing resolution it gives me some new insight Moving From machine with 4k 7.5 inch with xy 40 micron to 12k 10 inch with xy 19x24 micron is massive gap for me especially for post production
Regarding leveling, I'm happy that they changed the fixing system. I have an Elegoo Saturn 4K and just yesterday I started to notice that by printing miniature bases directly on the plate, I lose millimeters in z and the model becomes wider. I think it's due to the screw that blocks the Z of the plate which isn't able to tighten well.
I just bought an Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra, as my first resin printer. It arrived today and now I am currently waiting for Elegoo's customer support to reach back out to me. As my ACF file came damaged in the center. Hopefully they respond soon, as you can imagine, I was excited to start printing.
Hopefully with this video I can convince my parents to buy the Saturn 3 Ultra. I’ve done a huge amount of research on Resin printers now (like 70 hours+ even made a presentations. . .) and I think this might be the video to do it. Only unfortunate thing is that it would have been for my 19th birthday but if they do get it, it will arrive a month from now which is past my 19th. :l Anyways keep up the great reviews!
Great video, just purchased this 3d printer! :) One thing I dont understand, when watching 3d printer reviews ( also FDM), is - Why people are so oldschool and they keep using USB sticks? I have Bambulab X1C and I never ever used USB stick, since sending files is so much easier and quicker. The same probably goes with this Elegoo 3 Ultra.
Per your video request, I decided to buy this printer as my very 1st, 3d printer of my own. Years ago, I was doing some designing of models for a friend who got his first 3d fdm printer back around 2015ish. My goal is to print larger sized statue-like figures for my own custom painting. I really liked the details and all the information you provided in this video. It was a real struggle between this one and the Uniformation GK2, but due to the physical space requirements where the printer has to go, I don't have enough space to accommodate the pivoting up and back cover. If the Uni GK2 had a lift off cover, I would have bought that one in a heartbeat as my first. I really hope the Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra lives up to all the reviews. Only time will tell, and I'm ready to see what I can do with her when she arrives. Thanks for all the in-depth reviews you do, as they were the best in providing what I needed to know the most about when purchasing a printer. Keep up the great work.
@@brutallica2944 I literally just received her in the mail yesterday. Got her set up and made sure the plate was level and ready to print. Unfortunately, I need to do a couple more organization redoing tasks in my tiny mini-workshop where I put it to get it ready to print. I still need to get some good gloves, a respirator, a cookie sheet or rubber pad, you know bits and pieces that are needed to really enable printing. It's going to be a multi-stage process before I can even get my first print done.
Spoiler alert - the filters don't do anything really. Not even the big huge stand alone one. I bought it as a combo when I got my Saturn 3 Ultra and I have multiple HCHO and TVOC sensors in the workshop. These things on or off didn't do squat. The ONLY way to handle this properly really is venting the air outside. Period full stop.
Basically, yes. There's plenty of evidence for that. Anyone truly serious about this would perform an industrial hygiene survey, install exhaust hoods, down draft tables, would use resporators in conjunction with a respirometry lab and annual testing, and the usual gamut of PPE. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
People also don't realize how many sources for VOC's are common to things like mineral spirits and almost every solvent we use for thinners. Almost everything we use to clean from a supermarket is still not safe to breathe fumes from either. The idea the average person is actually understanding what is on any MSDS or what respiratory PPE even means in practice beyond a mask and fans or venting is kinda absurd to expect. People don't use respirators when using mineral spirits commonly despite all the hazards and warning all over the art world.
I got a very nice matal scraper with my Phrozen resin printer It was even laser etched with the phrozen logo. 😜 Love the videos! Keep up the awesome work. I love your perspective on things and telling it like it is.
Agreed. Decide what is right fir you then find a way to make that work. Much better than just settling fir something you’ll be unhappy with even before purchase
I was wondering how the wargamer resin would perform at high speed. Thanks for making me more jealous of the UK (longtime tv Anglophile). Need to find time to set up my ultra!
Good to know! I've had my eyes on this one. My Photon mono has served me well for quite some time, but it's time to move on to something larger with a better pixel size and sharpness.
Used ACF for awhile but switched back to nFEP. ACF creates vertical lines in the print. The frosty surface scatters the light and creates light and dark voxels, almost like adding noise to the light coming through the LCD. I'll take quality over speed any day.
Hey I just found a delete all button, You mentioned the lack of a button to clear all the files in the internal memory. Its there just do a long press on one of the files and then you have the option to select all and delete all.
“Damn you” (not really). I had just accepted that the differences aren’t worth the extra price, with my only consideration being the change in light source… and now you’ve basically said it makes all the difference. 😮 I’ll wait until your next vid where you swap the two vats to basically confirm that. Also, I was shocked by the print speeds. To me that would be well worth it. To be able to start a print in the morning, and do all the post on the same day is honestly a game changer for me. So, thanks for going crazy. 😀
Sadly the Resin/Company won't ship to outside of the UK. Any idea if they are planning to setup a storefront/distributor in the EU? Would love to buy but not with the shipping expenses and import/tax fees.
Bought a Saturn 3 Ultra through your link a couple weeks ago, so DEFINITELY super surprised to see this. I even bought some PFA Film to go along with it thinking I'd need it, very surprised to see I may not.
I understand the complaint about power button and other stuff placement... But if your desk space is tight, there's a whole other side you can put your wash and cure station on.
I've just ordered one of these but I would have been interested more in how it handles more geometric shapes with hard edges than figures which I don't need it for. My previous Mars 2 Pro used to misprint the lower edges of items or keep putting steps in long vertical positioned items so I've got my fingers crossed this won't do the same. I prefer the power switch being on the side as I got fed up reaching around and fumbling for the switch on my bench at the back particularly as I like to have a bit of space in front of the printer as a working area. With my experience of CNC machines I also went for this as I believe the metal chassis will be sturdier as a mount for the ball screw and slides, more rigidity should result in a more accurate model. I'm hoping the grey lid is transparent enough to see in because it's looking a bit dark and would have preferred a red lid.
I was going to hold off on getting a printer until towards the end of the year but I'm hearing good things about this Ultra. Might have to reconsider. Thanks :D
you can actually clear the files from the printer and usb stick from the printer with a "format files" option in the settings menus. I've used it a couple times already.
Love you reviews and your totally right in the K marketing rubbish. Nicely explained about all that is important is the pixel sice. I'm not into miniatures but in to flat surface mecanical parts printing. Ordered this one now because of the light source and the steady Z-arm. Cheers.
At 8:28, the screen shows "select all" and a Delete button. Unless I am missing something, that is the EXACT thing you're criticizing them for leaving out, is it not? Great review, by the way.
I ordered the Saturn 3 Ultra as my first resin printer, and after watching your Mars video, added on a spare vat with FEP. Guess that wasn't necessary! I'm now super curious to compare them 1:1 and see which performs better!
ohhh darn it ! I thought I had nailed down to what printer I would buy: The Anycubic M5s with a M5 vat, like your previous video, but this Ultra looks amazing too!
i wonder what the results will be if to put saturn's 3 ultra film onto mars 4 ultra or saturn 3 or even 2. i kinda like that noisy surface on organic models, this reminds me a technique which can be used for elimination of color banding by multiplying a slightly noisy layer on top of it.
Makes me very happy that I ordered this printer now that I've seen this video. Could it be the resin you're using? Are you getting those lines using that resin on other ACF printers? Have you tried a different resin in the Saturn 3 Ultra with different results? Just imagine if its actually your resin that somehow can take full advantage of ACF.
I was chosing between Saturn 3 and Anycubic M5. I ordered Saturn 3 (maybe because it was cheaper), but the same day I relaized that I need Ultra, or I will not be fully satisfied. I asked Elegoo support to change my order. I don't regret that. For me it was Linux system that changed my opinion. I beleived it will have much more hardware capacity. After all I think extra 100 USD is nothing compared to better OS, touch screen, light source, Z axis, WIFI etc. It's my first resin 3d printer, I could not beleive in the quality it deleivers. I managed to crack LCD screen already, in my first 2 weeks of using it, but still... wouldn't change to Anycubic. Thanks Elegoo!
I was changing resin so I cleaned everything. I was printing 8cm circural shape. During this print ACF was slapping loudly for the first time ever. And in about 75% shape released and slapped back into LCD and broke it leaving big circular crack on the screen. Temperature changed and I didn't calibrate I think I was overcuring. ACF was already scratched so maybe those tiny scratches made it more sticky. I'm not sure
Just a thought, I think it best that a button you use once, or otherwise rarely, like Set Z=0 is on a submenu where you can't accidentally click it in general use. I for one would NOT want it on the common command menu screen.
Fair enough. I have to deal with the comments from all the people who can’t get prints working and I never get this issue in Anycubic printers. When you know, you know. Many people don’t know
Yeah, this would be a crazy upgrade. We are looking to ship worldwide, but unfortunately, Australia is a difficult country to get product into at a decent price.
I've been looking at adding a Saturn printer since I currently have a Mars 3. My Mars is great and just works - but (you knew this was coming) - the build plate is kind of small when I'm printing larger miniatures. One dragon took me 5 print jobs to do. My dilemma is which Saturn to get? The new one is a bit more than I want to spend and I'm not super clear on how much real difference there is between a Saturn 8k and a Saturn 2 8k for print quality and overall build/reliability. I've watched and read reviews - and can't find all that much difference other than age/price and maybe build height.
Check out my Saturn 2 bmvs Saturn 8k video. Can you see a difference? Both are still great lrinters but the difference between those 2 is minimal. Between the Saturn 2 and this is even less. It’s there. But you need to really squint and stare for ages to spot the differences
Oh man. I just need to buy one already. I'd really like a nice breakdown comparison video of all the resin's though. That would be supper handy. What goo is good for what? I know you are mostly a miniatures guy but what if i want to print say an RC scaler body or bits of Gridfinity to organize my toolbox is any resin better or even goot at that or should I be leaning on a fdm printer for that sorta thing.
The wifi is a game changer... The filter I dk can still smell it even with two so verdict is out Touchscreen is nice but with the wifi is all but unnecessary Having issues yet with larger printer but think that's more human error
Ooooh, you were on 69 likes and I struggled to click on 'like' to change that (but I did) lol! Nice review of the new printer though. I really like the plug in filter on my Saturn 8k. I can have the printer run in the same room and I barely notice the smell at all. I'd still run a flex plate on any printer I get. The rare build failures (not many at all) are worth it for the simplicity of removing models from the build plate easily.
Great video! Just ordered one! What wash/cure station do you recommend for it? From your video on the Phrozen Wash & Cure kit, it looks like that one might be a good fit with this printer.
Hey there, as always love your videos - they never fail to be super informative and helpful! I was wondering what you thought about the mini 8ks vs this printer if the number one goal is to maximize detail on 28mm printed minis. Would there be any discernable difference between this and the 8ks to justify losing out on all the benefits you outline in the video?
I got my Saturn 3 ultra 3 days ago and have been loving it but I got a extra vat with pfa so I can switch out for speed/quality and have been loving it, way better than m5s returned that for Saturn 3 ultra.
Thank you for the video and consistent content. Much appreciated. Out of curiosity, have you tried or looked at thermal vat bands / vat warmers for resin? I'm debating between the Saturn 3 Ultra with one added on or the GKTwo at the moment for what will be my next printer. I've seen one video looking at it, and while it seems promising, I'm always curious what multiple reports say. No worries if not, just curious. Thank you again for your time and content. Have a good one.
There may be also another reason why this prints better with ACF, the screen protector may be thinner than in other printers. Thicker screen protector will make it blurrier.
@@FauxHammer Are u referring to the plastic screen protector? Saw in a video on another printer theres a glass screen protector over the screen and if it’s too thick it can cause blurriness.
I just got my mars 4 ultra with ACF and my results are basically the same as yours on the saturn 3 ultra. There is a kind of super small texture but no cross hatch lines or anything like that.
Hey Bud, I have received my Ultra, I got around to un-boxing it today, seems I have a PFA not an ACF. I assume the difference is the PFA is transparent not frosty as such like in your video, i can see the words on the levelling card like through a window? I will be very miffed if I have a late Friday special!
Damn it! I was so set on getting a Anycubic 3D printer, based on your reviews. But now? Hmmm. Any chance testing this printer with water washable resin? I love your channel, it’s my go to for printer reviews, keep up the good work ❤
I have the Saturn 3 ultra for 4 weeks now and Im on my third bottle of Anycubic water washable 8k resin - about € 30 , Its my first 3d printer and the quality and ease of use / reliability is excellent. would totally recommend.
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Just got my Saturn 3 Ultra, printing the test piece now, noticed the fan is a bit annoying, it may be resonance from the metal frame, my MonoX is less noisy.
I haven't noticed any, as you say it could be the frame, mine was whisper-silent. may want to track down where the noise is coming from and tighten some bolts.
@@FauxHammer It's definitely from the fan, sounds like resonance to me, there is also a click when the screen turns on and off, it's slight but it's there, my MonoX is less noisy but also has a plastic case.
@@FauxHammer Measured the sound with my phone placed right in front and to the right it's about 57 dB, also found some other settings in another review, the printer is able to use the minimum speed of 120 mm/m and a max speed of 500mm/m. Printed the calibration file, it came out under exposed at 30 um rez with 1.5s exposure time, the border perimeter only printed in the corners so upped to 1.7s now and started another print, using Siraya Fast Creamy.
Im really torn between this, the mars 4 ultra and the mars 4, is there a washer curer that can fit the build plate for either the mars 4 ultra or saturn 4 ultra? Also, say i couldnt fit all my prints in the washing basket, how long would the other fresh prints be ok sat on the desk waiting to be washed and cured ?
Placing the USB port on the front makes it more susceptible to being broken. I prefer my Anycubic on the right side over my Halot Mage on the front for this reason. I doubt whether the difference between a ball screw and lead screw will have any impact on print quality, especially since the screws are preloaded by gravity.
Ports location vs. Wash-n-cure vs. deskspace - put the wash-n-cure on the left side 😅 But I do agree that the ports should be on the front and power should be on the back.
Ordered a Saturn 3 ultra through your link. Received it yesterday and it is destroyed. The bottom of the machine is dented in so badly that it will not sit flat. The LCD is broken and the top frame is bent. UPS must have had fun with this one. I sent elegoo an email. Has anyone had experience with their support? I've only had creality printers in the past and I'm hoping elegoo support is better than that?
Hey Ross, thanks for posting your results and your sharing your uncertainty. Could the screen protector thickness + added thickness of ACF vs NFEP be accountable for a better light diffusion, reducing the surface effect of the ACF while softening a bit the print ? I expected the M5S and Saturn 3 Ultra to have different results if only because of the autoleveling floating screen of the M5S (that adds some distance between screen and ACF) that doesn't play in its favor. But I'm puzzled you find such disparities between models of the same brand and segment (Mars Ultra vs Saturn Ultra).
I bought a Saturn 3 Ultra on the recommendation of this video... Shame I couldnt buy it off an afil link, Elegoo doesnt ship to New Zealand (but they DO have an outlet here. Go figure). Questions regard machine: Do I water clean the vat after use? I use Water Washable resin, so clean up didnt use a metric assload of alcohol. Secondary question, can that water cleanup be HOT water? Would a detergent be detrimental to the continued usability of the vat? Whats the toxin in the resin? How do you get rid of the wash water at the end of the day?
that "is" the difference. the Sat 3 uses a Fresnel Lens and the UUltra uses a refractive light source.I;ve since learned it's kind of a projector combined with an lcd panel. so a merge of DLP and LCD in a way
Pro Tip: Store your sliced files locally, and when you send to the printer use the same name so it overwrites and never fills up. I can't think of a reason to keep files not actively printing on the printer itself rather than my PC since its all 100% wireless now. You can also skip Z=0 when leveling. The printer already goes to 0 when you home it. You're just setting it to the same setting over again.
why not dip the entire plate with print still attached into some alcohol to remove all that resin before you scrape it get resin everywhere? just curious, maybe im doing it wrong. I like to clean all the resin off then remove the pieces..pop them into a iso/ultrasonic bath..
I'm producing parts for scale models industry and 3D printed kits. I'm printing with 2 Saturn3 Ultra and I've ordered a bottle of your resin to be tested. Now, what layer height you suggest for better results with this printer? I understand good 0.018? Is that related to its pixel size?
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At 8:28 it looks like there is a select all and then you can delete everything. Is that not the case?
My wife just bought the Elegoo Saturn 3 ultra and wash/cure stations for my birthday. We used your link. All totaled $537 USD. Really great deal.
Since its been a year, how has the ACF held up? Have you replaced it yet?
@@PhiloDesigns I haven't used it since the review. it's sat in a storage shed
Ah darn 🥲. Makes sense though, with all the reviews you do!
I just received my saturn ultra last week. It's not my first printer, but it's my first resin printer. I held off for a long time because of the cost to build volume. I did some research and had prior knowledge of resin printers, but I still took the chance on this as a preorder. Gotta say I'm impressed for many reasons. First-time setup like bed leveling, build volume, build quality, and I can't really complain about the slicer either. I went into this purchase mainly to print drone replacement parts, and now I'm searching through my files for models that took DAYS on my fdm printer because the saturn ultra produces highly detailed prints faster than the estimated build time. If you're getting one, just run every benchmark print you can find, and I don't think you'll be disappointed with the results. *Promise I'm NOT a bot or paid. I only wrote this because I saw another video about this printer and had buyers remorse because of the AXF film and the general sentiment of "Why does this printer even exist?"
As always great video! I've had my Saturn 3 Ultra for almost a month now and love it. It's my first resin printer coming from the olden days of a heavily upgraded Anet A8 FDM printer and I'm absolutely sold on resin printing. Sadly I scratched the ACF that comes with the printer early on but Elegoo still doesn't sell replacements yet. I'm using Saturn 3 PFA film until ACF is actually available but zero issues without changing the settings.
I bought the ultra as first 3D printer ever and i am absolutely amazed by the speed and detail this printer can print really loving this printer and its so easy to use.
I just ordered my Saturn 3 Ultra.. it will be my first printer, too.. i´m excited :D
This is the review I’ve been waiting for. Thanks
Thanks for watching
I have one that should be arriving any day now. I even ordered a standard Saturn 3 VAT/FEP based on your previous experiments. But it looks like I'll be mostly using the ACF and have the FEP as a backup or when someone wants every bit of detail possible. Thanks for the update and I guess validating my purchase. :)
Would love to see your results in both as I’m still to confirm if it’s just me.
And yeah, you picked a good one
You can do select all on the file browser to delete all@@FauxHammer seen at 8:27 / 8:28
I switched over my Mega 8k and Mighty 8k printers last month and have had nothing but great prints with ACF. Being able to cut my lift height by 70% _and_ increase lift speed 2x has been a gmae changer. No weird patterns so far!
Glad you had a good experience. My Mega 8k comes next month and I;m about to change my FEP for ACF today on the Phrozen Mighty 8k (now 12k)
Why do you think that is? I'm buying a new printer and the whole ACF bit has me nervous.
A more diffuse light (refractive) source will play better with the granular ACF surface whereas a more collimated light source (Fresnel lens) will be more sensitive to the granular nature of the ACF film. Your results make sense.
Good to know. Thanks for backing this up, because it’s blown my tiny mind
Is it known that the backlight in this model is less collimated, or more diffuse? I wouldn't equate "refractive" with either "less collimated" or "more diffuse". Just the opposite, in fact. EDIT: clarification: a fresnel lens is a refractive optical element, so really we're comparing a "conventional" (refractive) lens with a fresnel (refractive) lens, FWTW.
@@HumbleMonkey agreed, but I knew what was meant
I love your videos but I think you should save yourself a couple of quid by dropping the stock footage of randos shrugging/nodding, etc. It's not needed and it's hackneyed at this point.
@@ajc4477 Sorry for the O/T, but that is EXACTLY what I was thinking! It is very distracting and adds absolutely nothing to the video. I would really love to see those go. So, in fact, I would really love to NOT see them at all ;-)
4:33 I always use a short L-shaped USB extender, so it is flexible to prevent drive from breakage due to accidental bumping, and to prevent connector from wearing off due to frequent usage
Was looking at the Saturn two but now think spending a little more and grabbing this one! Thanks for reviewing super helpful ! Love your videos!
Glad I could help!
I’m super excited, these just went up on Amazon, Elegoo doesn’t ship to my region but they do. Looking forward to seeing the upgrade to my Saturn S
Just ordered one today, on special from elegoo atm! Super excited
New to the hobby, just bought one of these thanks to your reviews. Cheers mate
Welcome aboard!
iirc, refraction is when the input light (to a transparent glass) is below the critical angle (snell's law), the light travels parallel to the glass surface, and refracts up at the critical angle, so every bit of light is parallel. This is clever. Or i am hopelessly wrong.
Ordered my Saturn 3 Ultra based on your reviews. I planned to order PFA foils too to start with, but now I’ll try the preinstalled ACF for now
Lo Howler! Great video, but Morningstar on the computer screen in the back ground made me subscribe instantly. Hail Reaper and Happy printing!
Hail Libertas!
Thank you after seeing you review i decided to buy saturn 3 ultra after several consideration and meet some colleagues of mine who also own this printer i buy this machine love your others vidio explaining about printing resolution it gives me some new insight
Moving From machine with 4k 7.5 inch with xy 40 micron to 12k 10 inch with xy 19x24 micron is massive gap for me especially for post production
Regarding leveling, I'm happy that they changed the fixing system. I have an Elegoo Saturn 4K and just yesterday I started to notice that by printing miniature bases directly on the plate, I lose millimeters in z and the model becomes wider. I think it's due to the screw that blocks the Z of the plate which isn't able to tighten well.
This video finally convinced me to buy the Saturn 3 Ultra after hesitating for weeks comparing it with the Anycubic M5S. Thanks Ross!
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I just bought an Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra, as my first resin printer. It arrived today and now I am currently waiting for Elegoo's customer support to reach back out to me. As my ACF file came damaged in the center.
Hopefully they respond soon, as you can imagine, I was excited to start printing.
Hopefully with this video I can convince my parents to buy the Saturn 3 Ultra. I’ve done a huge amount of research on Resin printers now (like 70 hours+ even made a presentations. . .) and I think this might be the video to do it. Only unfortunate thing is that it would have been for my 19th birthday but if they do get it, it will arrive a month from now which is past my 19th. :l
Anyways keep up the great reviews!
Great video, just purchased this 3d printer! :) One thing I dont understand, when watching 3d printer reviews ( also FDM), is - Why people are so oldschool and they keep using USB sticks? I have Bambulab X1C and I never ever used USB stick, since sending files is so much easier and quicker. The same probably goes with this Elegoo 3 Ultra.
This is actually pretty fascinating and exciting. ACF that does not have that drawback makes this my new printer of choice now!
Per your video request, I decided to buy this printer as my very 1st, 3d printer of my own. Years ago, I was doing some designing of models for a friend who got his first 3d fdm printer back around 2015ish. My goal is to print larger sized statue-like figures for my own custom painting. I really liked the details and all the information you provided in this video. It was a real struggle between this one and the Uniformation GK2, but due to the physical space requirements where the printer has to go, I don't have enough space to accommodate the pivoting up and back cover. If the Uni GK2 had a lift off cover, I would have bought that one in a heartbeat as my first. I really hope the Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra lives up to all the reviews. Only time will tell, and I'm ready to see what I can do with her when she arrives. Thanks for all the in-depth reviews you do, as they were the best in providing what I needed to know the most about when purchasing a printer. Keep up the great work.
Got her yet? And how are you getting on?
@@brutallica2944 I literally just received her in the mail yesterday. Got her set up and made sure the plate was level and ready to print. Unfortunately, I need to do a couple more organization redoing tasks in my tiny mini-workshop where I put it to get it ready to print. I still need to get some good gloves, a respirator, a cookie sheet or rubber pad, you know bits and pieces that are needed to really enable printing. It's going to be a multi-stage process before I can even get my first print done.
Hows it been?
Great video as always! I'm very interested in the acf vs nfep video. I've been tempted to try acf, but your other videos have made me put a breaks on.
i know, sorry this one flipped it, but i can only show what I see.
@@FauxHammer I still get vertical lines on my S3 Ultra. I print a lot of flat surfaced geometry and lines are very visible.
Spoiler alert - the filters don't do anything really. Not even the big huge stand alone one. I bought it as a combo when I got my Saturn 3 Ultra and I have multiple HCHO and TVOC sensors in the workshop. These things on or off didn't do squat. The ONLY way to handle this properly really is venting the air outside. Period full stop.
Basically, yes.
There's plenty of evidence for that.
Anyone truly serious about this would perform an industrial hygiene survey, install exhaust hoods, down draft tables, would use resporators in conjunction with a respirometry lab and annual testing, and the usual gamut of PPE.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
People also don't realize how many sources for VOC's are common to things like mineral spirits and almost every solvent we use for thinners. Almost everything we use to clean from a supermarket is still not safe to breathe fumes from either. The idea the average person is actually understanding what is on any MSDS or what respiratory PPE even means in practice beyond a mask and fans or venting is kinda absurd to expect. People don't use respirators when using mineral spirits commonly despite all the hazards and warning all over the art world.
Is hepa filter works for voc?
Yep, the cleaning solvents are much, much worse for you than the resin.
I got a very nice matal scraper with my Phrozen resin printer It was even laser etched with the phrozen logo. 😜 Love the videos! Keep up the awesome work. I love your perspective on things and telling it like it is.
Really want to try Wargamer Resin... is there a way to get it in US?
The liniar projected light can give light uniformity of over 90%, other methods get between 80-85%, dlp gets over 95%.
as i said in the chat, thanks for another good review, its good to have a pricerange to set a goal for saving up to!
Agreed. Decide what is right fir you then find a way to make that work. Much better than just settling fir something you’ll be unhappy with even before purchase
I was wondering how the wargamer resin would perform at high speed. Thanks for making me more jealous of the UK (longtime tv Anglophile). Need to find time to set up my ultra!
Good to know! I've had my eyes on this one.
My Photon mono has served me well for quite some time, but it's time to move on to something larger with a better pixel size and sharpness.
Used ACF for awhile but switched back to nFEP. ACF creates vertical lines in the print. The frosty surface scatters the light and creates light and dark voxels, almost like adding noise to the light coming through the LCD. I'll take quality over speed any day.
Seen that many times myself. This did it do it
fantastic. i was going to ask you to somehow keep these reviews up to date - 'cos firmware upgrades can make a difference.
Awesome review, mine should arrive this month.
Hey I just found a delete all button, You mentioned the lack of a button to clear all the files in the internal memory. Its there just do a long press on one of the files and then you have the option to select all and delete all.
thanks, that's super helpful
“Damn you” (not really). I had just accepted that the differences aren’t worth the extra price, with my only consideration being the change in light source… and now you’ve basically said it makes all the difference. 😮
I’ll wait until your next vid where you swap the two vats to basically confirm that.
Also, I was shocked by the print speeds. To me that would be well worth it. To be able to start a print in the morning, and do all the post on the same day is honestly a game changer for me. So, thanks for going crazy. 😀
Same here 😅
Sorry, I only know when I know. i did not expect this result.
Sadly the Resin/Company won't ship to outside of the UK. Any idea if they are planning to setup a storefront/distributor in the EU? Would love to buy but not with the shipping expenses and import/tax fees.
We are trying to do it.
Bought this printer with your link, Great video! cant wait to get it and hope you get your kick back from the affiliate link!
Bought a Saturn 3 Ultra through your link a couple weeks ago, so DEFINITELY super surprised to see this. I even bought some PFA Film to go along with it thinking I'd need it, very surprised to see I may not.
I’d love to hear what your results are
Minor thing, but don't I see a "select all" checkbox top left of the UI @8:30 that would let you select all the files and delete them all at once?
My first print had a significant amount of layer lines. Might have been my print angle, but the distortions were more than I expected
😮 that leaves me surprised, i am excited for your future experiments for this.
Thanks kindly
You should include a link the the featured product for european shopper too.
Always nice to see a win. 👍👍
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Would love to see a video with you testing the Vocs and see if these carbon filters help at all.
Working on it, they don’t help at all
@@FauxHammer Haha okey, that doesnt sound good :D
I understand the complaint about power button and other stuff placement...
But if your desk space is tight, there's a whole other side you can put your wash and cure station on.
Great video! You sold me!!😊
I've just ordered one of these but I would have been interested more in how it handles more geometric shapes with hard edges than figures which I don't need it for. My previous Mars 2 Pro used to misprint the lower edges of items or keep putting steps in long vertical positioned items so I've got my fingers crossed this won't do the same. I prefer the power switch being on the side as I got fed up reaching around and fumbling for the switch on my bench at the back particularly as I like to have a bit of space in front of the printer as a working area. With my experience of CNC machines I also went for this as I believe the metal chassis will be sturdier as a mount for the ball screw and slides, more rigidity should result in a more accurate model. I'm hoping the grey lid is transparent enough to see in because it's looking a bit dark and would have preferred a red lid.
I almost waited to get this printer. I ended up going with the Saturn 2 8k. It's works for me. I'll watch your newb video to learn how to tweek it.
That’s still a solid printer and as I said in this, I wouldn’t rush to upgrade
I was going to hold off on getting a printer until towards the end of the year but I'm hearing good things about this Ultra. Might have to reconsider. Thanks :D
Sales will be on towards the end of the year, but I worry they will sell out fast!
you can actually clear the files from the printer and usb stick from the printer with a "format files" option in the settings menus. I've used it a couple times already.
Oh I need to check this. Would still be nicer on the front menu. But thanks
Why don't you put the resin directly in the tray ?
Love you reviews and your totally right in the K marketing rubbish. Nicely explained about all that is important is the pixel sice. I'm not into miniatures but in to flat surface mecanical parts printing. Ordered this one now because of the light source and the steady Z-arm. Cheers.
At 8:28, the screen shows "select all" and a Delete button. Unless I am missing something, that is the EXACT thing you're criticizing them for leaving out, is it not? Great review, by the way.
Sorry, that’s the USB stick showing. Not the internal memory
That's correct! There is a select all in the internal memory.
I ordered the Saturn 3 Ultra as my first resin printer, and after watching your Mars video, added on a spare vat with FEP. Guess that wasn't necessary! I'm now super curious to compare them 1:1 and see which performs better!
I’d love to hear your impressions too
ohhh darn it ! I thought I had nailed down to what printer I would buy: The Anycubic M5s with a M5 vat, like your previous video, but this Ultra looks amazing too!
This one, easily this one!
i wonder what the results will be if to put saturn's 3 ultra film onto mars 4 ultra or saturn 3 or even 2. i kinda like that noisy surface on organic models, this reminds me a technique which can be used for elimination of color banding by multiplying a slightly noisy layer on top of it.
Makes me very happy that I ordered this printer now that I've seen this video.
Could it be the resin you're using? Are you getting those lines using that resin on other ACF printers? Have you tried a different resin in the Saturn 3 Ultra with different results? Just imagine if its actually your resin that somehow can take full advantage of ACF.
Yep tried this resin in the Mars 4 Ultra too. Same typical ACF issue
@@FauxHammer So its the light source then?
@@petercallison5765 doesn’t seem so. Same result on Saturn 3 basic with ACF. So this must just be a different ACF
I was chosing between Saturn 3 and Anycubic M5. I ordered Saturn 3 (maybe because it was cheaper), but the same day I relaized that I need Ultra, or I will not be fully satisfied. I asked Elegoo support to change my order. I don't regret that.
For me it was Linux system that changed my opinion. I beleived it will have much more hardware capacity. After all I think extra 100 USD is nothing compared to better OS, touch screen, light source, Z axis, WIFI etc.
It's my first resin 3d printer, I could not beleive in the quality it deleivers. I managed to crack LCD screen already, in my first 2 weeks of using it, but still... wouldn't change to Anycubic. Thanks Elegoo!
Good choice. Sorry about your screen woes though
@@FauxHammer by the way. Elegoo is sending me LCD for free. I was shocked that they took warranty for crashed screen. Best customer service ever
How did you crack it?
I was changing resin so I cleaned everything. I was printing 8cm circural shape. During this print ACF was slapping loudly for the first time ever. And in about 75% shape released and slapped back into LCD and broke it leaving big circular crack on the screen. Temperature changed and I didn't calibrate I think I was overcuring. ACF was already scratched so maybe those tiny scratches made it more sticky. I'm not sure
Just a thought, I think it best that a button you use once, or otherwise rarely, like Set Z=0 is on a submenu where you can't accidentally click it in general use.
I for one would NOT want it on the common command menu screen.
Fair enough. I have to deal with the comments from all the people who can’t get prints working and I never get this issue in Anycubic printers.
When you know, you know. Many people don’t know
I have mine on order to replace my saturn, looking forward to the larger build volume,
oh it's gonna be a night and day difference for you.
Great review, I think I will be upgrading from my Photon S! Anychance your wargamer resin will be available in Australia?
Yeah, this would be a crazy upgrade. We are looking to ship worldwide, but unfortunately, Australia is a difficult country to get product into at a decent price.
Similar results on my 3 ultra here, was dumbfounded by your review of the M5s and Mars 4 ultra because I am getting crisp prints on mine.
Do you have the M5s and Mars 4? Would love to compare notes and get a wider range of results to compare
I've been looking at adding a Saturn printer since I currently have a Mars 3. My Mars is great and just works - but (you knew this was coming) - the build plate is kind of small when I'm printing larger miniatures. One dragon took me 5 print jobs to do. My dilemma is which Saturn to get? The new one is a bit more than I want to spend and I'm not super clear on how much real difference there is between a Saturn 8k and a Saturn 2 8k for print quality and overall build/reliability. I've watched and read reviews - and can't find all that much difference other than age/price and maybe build height.
Check out my Saturn 2 bmvs Saturn 8k video. Can you see a difference?
Both are still great lrinters but the difference between those 2 is minimal. Between the Saturn 2 and this is even less.
It’s there. But you need to really squint and stare for ages to spot the differences
Oh man. I just need to buy one already. I'd really like a nice breakdown comparison video of all the resin's though. That would be supper handy. What goo is good for what? I know you are mostly a miniatures guy but what if i want to print say an RC scaler body or bits of Gridfinity to organize my toolbox is any resin better or even goot at that or should I be leaning on a fdm printer for that sorta thing.
Yeah I’ll be doing a comparison soon with Sunlu Resins
Subbed and waiting. Looking forward to it.@@FauxHammer
The wifi is a game changer...
The filter I dk can still smell it even with two so verdict is out
Touchscreen is nice but with the wifi is all but unnecessary
Having issues yet with larger printer but think that's more human error
Ooooh, you were on 69 likes and I struggled to click on 'like' to change that (but I did) lol! Nice review of the new printer though. I really like the plug in filter on my Saturn 8k. I can have the printer run in the same room and I barely notice the smell at all.
I'd still run a flex plate on any printer I get. The rare build failures (not many at all) are worth it for the simplicity of removing models from the build plate easily.
Thanks fir upping me, it would ah e changed at some point but being stuck at 69 is not so bad
Hi would it be possible to get your slicer settings? Wanting to get it to print faster and still look good :) awesome video as usual
Great video! Just ordered one! What wash/cure station do you recommend for it? From your video on the Phrozen Wash & Cure kit, it looks like that one might be a good fit with this printer.
Hey there, as always love your videos - they never fail to be super informative and helpful!
I was wondering what you thought about the mini 8ks vs this printer if the number one goal is to maximize detail on 28mm printed minis. Would there be any discernable difference between this and the 8ks to justify losing out on all the benefits you outline in the video?
I got my Saturn 3 ultra 3 days ago and have been loving it but I got a extra vat with pfa so I can switch out for speed/quality and have been loving it, way better than m5s returned that for Saturn 3 ultra.
I can completely understand that, I had the same experience. Have you done a comparison print yet? Are you seeing the same as me between PFA and ACF?
@FauxHammer I have not compared yet been just using acf and have been crazy impressed but don't like how acf seems to dent/stretch easily
Is PFA the same as nFEP?@@FauxHammer
Thank you for the video and consistent content. Much appreciated.
Out of curiosity, have you tried or looked at thermal vat bands / vat warmers for resin? I'm debating between the Saturn 3 Ultra with one added on or the GKTwo at the moment for what will be my next printer. I've seen one video looking at it, and while it seems promising, I'm always curious what multiple reports say. No worries if not, just curious.
Thank you again for your time and content. Have a good one.
There may be also another reason why this prints better with ACF, the screen protector may be thinner than in other printers. Thicker screen protector will make it blurrier.
makes no difference when i tested this on the M5
@@FauxHammer Are u referring to the plastic screen protector? Saw in a video on another printer theres a glass screen protector over the screen and if it’s too thick it can cause blurriness.
Completely torn over this or the regular Saturn 3 at the moment, is it worth the extra £££?
The difference is WiFi and a UI you’ll rarely touch
And now I've just had the email for the Saturn 4 reveal next week, looks like it has a flip lid, not sure what else it may offer though
I just got my mars 4 ultra with ACF and my results are basically the same as yours on the saturn 3 ultra.
There is a kind of super small texture but no cross hatch lines or anything like that.
Nice!!!! This stuff is so weird!
Hey Bud, I have received my Ultra, I got around to un-boxing it today, seems I have a PFA not an ACF. I assume the difference is the PFA is transparent not frosty as such like in your video, i can see the words on the levelling card like through a window?
I will be very miffed if I have a late Friday special!
Damn it! I was so set on getting a Anycubic 3D printer, based on your reviews. But now? Hmmm. Any chance testing this printer with water washable resin? I love your channel, it’s my go to for printer reviews, keep up the good work ❤
I have the Saturn 3 ultra for 4 weeks now and Im on my third bottle of Anycubic water washable 8k resin - about € 30 , Its my first 3d printer and the quality and ease of use / reliability is excellent. would totally recommend.
@@patrickstack2741 thanks, that helps alot
You know Ross means business when he has a 3D model of Chibs (Sons of Anarchy) in the first minute of the video!
Here's to FauxHammer and to sons of anarchy, an amazing YT channel and one of the best series I've ever watched ✨
I still have all the other lads to print at some point.
I ordered my Saturn 3 Ultra last month and its finally going to get here Friday! Can't wait to make some great prints with it! Great video as always!
Can't wait to get mine!! I have the saturn 2 8k now but this one is going to be a game charger with the speed
It’s so good. I love it
Ive been printing with my ultra since middle of july, and i never had any of the “cross hatching” problems you or jessie saw.
i haven't seen any on this. Which Ultra do you mean?this or the Mars?
Just got my Saturn 3 Ultra, printing the test piece now, noticed the fan is a bit annoying, it may be resonance from the metal frame, my MonoX is less noisy.
I haven't noticed any, as you say it could be the frame, mine was whisper-silent. may want to track down where the noise is coming from and tighten some bolts.
@@FauxHammer It's definitely from the fan, sounds like resonance to me, there is also a click when the screen turns on and off, it's slight but it's there, my MonoX is less noisy but also has a plastic case.
@@FauxHammer Measured the sound with my phone placed right in front and to the right it's about 57 dB, also found some other settings in another review, the printer is able to use the minimum speed of 120 mm/m and a max speed of 500mm/m. Printed the calibration file, it came out under exposed at 30 um rez with 1.5s exposure time, the border perimeter only printed in the corners so upped to 1.7s now and started another print, using Siraya Fast Creamy.
Im really torn between this, the mars 4 ultra and the mars 4, is there a washer curer that can fit the build plate for either the mars 4 ultra or saturn 4 ultra?
Also, say i couldnt fit all my prints in the washing basket, how long would the other fresh prints be ok sat on the desk waiting to be washed and cured ?
Could you please link the video you mention at around 12:30? Couldn't find it in the description, Thanks!
Sorry, done now. But it;s in the description too.
@@FauxHammer Thanks!
10:33 Does this new build plate fits the older version of elegoo printers?
No. Sorry
Merci!
Wow!!! Thank you so much.
Placing the USB port on the front makes it more susceptible to being broken. I prefer my Anycubic on the right side over my Halot Mage on the front for this reason. I doubt whether the difference between a ball screw and lead screw will have any impact on print quality, especially since the screws are preloaded by gravity.
it's swings and roundabouts I guess. I'm just showing where it is, and my preference. if that's not for you, cool.
Ports location vs. Wash-n-cure vs. deskspace - put the wash-n-cure on the left side 😅 But I do agree that the ports should be on the front and power should be on the back.
Where would you place the Saturn 3 Ultra on your Top Tier List? Rank 2 i guess ?!
Yep, 2 it will replace the M3 premium
Ordered a Saturn 3 ultra through your link. Received it yesterday and it is destroyed. The bottom of the machine is dented in so badly that it will not sit flat. The LCD is broken and the top frame is bent. UPS must have had fun with this one. I sent elegoo an email. Has anyone had experience with their support? I've only had creality printers in the past and I'm hoping elegoo support is better than that?
That Wolverine and Corrupt Tingin... Daaaaaaaamn. Where can i get those files?
Hey Ross, thanks for posting your results and your sharing your uncertainty. Could the screen protector thickness + added thickness of ACF vs NFEP be accountable for a better light diffusion, reducing the surface effect of the ACF while softening a bit the print ? I expected the M5S and Saturn 3 Ultra to have different results if only because of the autoleveling floating screen of the M5S (that adds some distance between screen and ACF) that doesn't play in its favor. But I'm puzzled you find such disparities between models of the same brand and segment (Mars Ultra vs Saturn Ultra).
Not based on all the tests I did on the M5 series. Screen protector had no discernible effect
i'm getting success on the S2 8k at 300 speeds on non ACF. Interesting vid and tests.
I bought a Saturn 3 Ultra on the recommendation of this video... Shame I couldnt buy it off an afil link, Elegoo doesnt ship to New Zealand (but they DO have an outlet here. Go figure).
Questions regard machine: Do I water clean the vat after use? I use Water Washable resin, so clean up didnt use a metric assload of alcohol. Secondary question, can that water cleanup be HOT water? Would a detergent be detrimental to the continued usability of the vat? Whats the toxin in the resin? How do you get rid of the wash water at the end of the day?
Oh, and Great video series, earned a Sub...
The mars 4 ultra uses the cob refractive light doodad too, so how could that be the difference?
that "is" the difference. the Sat 3 uses a Fresnel Lens and the UUltra uses a refractive light source.I;ve since learned it's kind of a projector combined with an lcd panel. so a merge of DLP and LCD in a way
So does that mean the mars 4 ultra avoids the thingamabob lines too? I'll have to review your review 😁 thanks for all your hard work! 🙏
@@rhoalpha Apparently no, for that printer it's no good, despite the refractive light source.. Very difficult to point out the reasons..
Would trying to print a “perfect” sphere be of any use to judge quality?
Pro Tip: Store your sliced files locally, and when you send to the printer use the same name so it overwrites and never fills up.
I can't think of a reason to keep files not actively printing on the printer itself rather than my PC since its all 100% wireless now.
You can also skip Z=0 when leveling. The printer already goes to 0 when you home it. You're just setting it to the same setting over again.
Oh that’s genius!
why not dip the entire plate with print still attached into some alcohol to remove all that resin before you scrape it get resin everywhere? just curious, maybe im doing it wrong. I like to clean all the resin off then remove the pieces..pop them into a iso/ultrasonic bath..
I do t like to put my plate in cleaning solution. If has led to follow up prints not sticking
I'm producing parts for scale models industry and 3D printed kits. I'm printing with 2 Saturn3 Ultra and I've ordered a bottle of your resin to be tested. Now, what layer height you suggest for better results with this printer? I understand good 0.018? Is that related to its pixel size?