im really pleased with it! its way faster than my "old" printers, i havent noticed any z wobble even with a full packed plate - but i use a chamber heater, so its not exactly an apples to apples comparison. There will allways be a next best thing and every mashine will sooner or later seem outdated (with todays tech progression). Im actually glad it doesnt include extras like a resin pump because the last time i paid for it it didnt work!
the only point i try to make is to show some innovation, like the pump doesn't need to be included but it would be great if it's something to add on if you need it. Having to fill it during printing is not ideal. Now the 4 ultra came out and it finally looks like they are trying to do more then just make it look cool with higher pixel count. With the s3u the goal is faster printing by incl. acf sheet but in my testing you kinda solve 1 problem and create another. Like with anything slow and steady wins the race so if you dial it in a bit slower the s3u is just another great non groundbreaking alternative.
Video idea - see if the Sunlu clear ABS-like is stronger than the grey or black. I ask because nearly all professional engineering resins are clear for two reasons. One is that pigments weaken them. Two is that they cannot cure as deeply.
I think you might get flooded with people with who don’t understand or have the patience for machines. Every time there’s a negative in the title or thumbnail, 50 people show up saying “yeah! It’s a POS. It’s my first printer.”
I've definitely ran into the sucking problem on my Saturn 3. It's such a pain having 1/3 of my prints just not work, but I'm starting to get it figured out.
sucks right 😆adding vent holes is really the key if you hollow it. Depending on the location you can hide them so you don't see them or you fill the holes and with resin sanding very easy it's a no brainer to do.
I hate the build plate on the Saturn 3. Whatever they did by laser etching the plate, it either causes it to be harder to get things to print on it or, when you do, it gets hard to remove anything from it. The Saturn 2 gives me far less problems with build plate issues.
Hi, I dont mean to sound like i am attacking your or anything I am just disagreeing with your bad points. The issues u brought up are all cause you wanted to use this printer for sizes its not ment to be for or maybe the jupiter or bigger ones would have been the better option. Also cutting up your prints into smaller piece is the way to go.
Heard that with a couple of the early releases the towers loose and people have had to tighten it up themselves! I've had mine for 4 months without any issues and I print massive statues hollow never had a wobble like my anycubic m5s
I purchased the Saturn 3 12K over this printer. The Ultra does have wifi. But that's not a reason to get it and deal with the other stuff wrong on the Ultra
Good review, and if anything, you were overly gentle - Elegoo has been plaguing their paying customers with half-assed nonsense like z-flex since they started, you'd think by now they could get at least that right... The shame is not that the S3U is a bad printer, the shame is it could have easily been so much better with normal mechanical engineering and simple use improvements (like bigger resin tray with a more convenient fastening method, for example). Keep up the good work, your content and presentation are always a pleasure to watch!
I've had this a month now as my first printer and I've barely had a decent print out of it. I had to fit a heater, due to prints falling off, but my main problem now is distortion. Everything warps. It seems as soon as I fix one problem, something else screws it up and I feel like trashing the whole damn thing and taking up needlework. 😭 One further thing. There are some little plastic covers on the build plate. One fell off, got under the plate and put a hole in my ACF. Remove them.
@@NoizieWorks For instance, if I print a cube, either flat on the deck or suspended by supports, I end up with curved edges. Angling the part in any direction makes no difference.
@@BullzOfSteel Don't panic, it is a good printer, and I think I would get the same problems with any of them. It's just being new to the game. I would say get a heater, get a flex panel and follow this link, and it will fix 95% of the issues. docs.google.com/document/d/1Z8fkzOxEgI9sOTwDKI6CeblpnuP4V8ayYVwZrYGmo44/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs
i have just brought one, had it for 2 weeks and yet to have a print work, pretty sure it's my issue, with leveling or temperature, but still a nightmare at the moment
@@NoizieWorks i have tried to but i had resin in the vat while i did it so i think thats the reason, it's bed adhesion, either the print peels off half way through, or doens't stick at all
@stephenmarston2743 what bottom exposure are you running? I would try it on a empty vat for sure and maybe add some extra bottom to 30 seconds with a .5sec rest time
@@NoizieWorks it works really well but don't expect better quality print than a Saturn 2 it's just more convenient and more reliable (so far) I hade so many problems with my Saturn when trying to dial in settings like the build plate being okay ish at best lot of wobble from the Z axis meaning unstable lifting and can't handle more speed etc etc hopefully the gktwo will make be okay in the time, tho the skinny axis is kinda scary but who knows
@@theo._.5593 I'm really disappointed in Elegoo honestly and the buildplate flexing is just sad engineering. All these brands right now are racing to the bottom instead of making a product that is going to last the time. Keep me updated on the machine brother!
@@NoizieWorks to be clear I'm not saying the gktwo is perfect I'm a really sceptical guy but I felt it was time for me to step back and realize what they call 8k is actually already fine for my need I would prefer other improvements that makes sense HEATING, better cleaning process and access , cheap pièces ( bought a spare bed for 60 euros on Amazon , official one too !) If I have to list all the cons of the gktwo: -Week door hinges (you can either open or close it it can't stay in a in between position -no better print quality than others modern printers it's similar to my Saturn 2 imo by eyes at least -the heating solution is not directly heating the vat itself so it's not efficient and could be better for sure -the brand ! We don't know them, we can't trust them that easy! -I can't manage to print via wifi or network while there's a Network connection to it maybe it's just me idk -the vat doesn't have a lip to poor out resin come on guys... (I made a 3d solutions like we did for the Saturn) -the vat is not clear about the max lvl of resin and is small, made out of plastic the clips mechanism has broken for some ppl (tho you can print the replacement feets that does this it's still to consider if it's your only printer -not enough trust on the brand again and again I wish we had an leader company listening to enthusiastic, sharing etc etc this business can work so hopefully they'll go for it if you don't make the best resin don't bs us trying to sell us this crap.... I still use my elegoo resin after this year's am I loyal or simply lazy idk ? But we should have some feedback from company those products are complex, and dangerous be transparent... -oh and this is to be picky but the build volume isn't an upgrade if you had a Saturn 2 before it's basically the same kinda
What? They don't even bother to answer an email to me so why would they sponsor me? Could you show me a picture of where it says that it's sponsored by Elegoo? You can send it to my email,fb or insta
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Such a good in depth review ! Thank you !
Thank YOU for taking the time!
im really pleased with it! its way faster than my "old" printers, i havent noticed any z wobble even with a full packed plate - but i use a chamber heater, so its not exactly an apples to apples comparison. There will allways be a next best thing and every mashine will sooner or later seem outdated (with todays tech progression). Im actually glad it doesnt include extras like a resin pump because the last time i paid for it it didnt work!
the only point i try to make is to show some innovation, like the pump doesn't need to be included but it would be great if it's something to add on if you need it.
Having to fill it during printing is not ideal.
Now the 4 ultra came out and it finally looks like they are trying to do more then just make it look cool with higher pixel count. With the s3u the goal is faster printing by incl. acf sheet but in my testing you kinda solve 1 problem and create another. Like with anything slow and steady wins the race so if you dial it in a bit slower the s3u is just another great non groundbreaking alternative.
Video idea - see if the Sunlu clear ABS-like is stronger than the grey or black. I ask because nearly all professional engineering resins are clear for two reasons. One is that pigments weaken them. Two is that they cannot cure as deeply.
I think you might get flooded with people with who don’t understand or have the patience for machines. Every time there’s a negative in the title or thumbnail, 50 people show up saying “yeah! It’s a POS. It’s my first printer.”
Probably yes and that's ok, the point is that cheering for fine is not the way forward.
I've definitely ran into the sucking problem on my Saturn 3. It's such a pain having 1/3 of my prints just not work, but I'm starting to get it figured out.
sucks right 😆adding vent holes is really the key if you hollow it. Depending on the location you can hide them so you don't see them or you fill the holes and with resin sanding very easy it's a no brainer to do.
ACF is brutally expensive. Definitely swapping right back to PFA, thanks for the quick confirmation
I hope you can review the Saturn 4 Ultra with the new tilting mechanism!
Expecting delivery next month
I hate the build plate on the Saturn 3. Whatever they did by laser etching the plate, it either causes it to be harder to get things to print on it or, when you do, it gets hard to remove anything from it. The Saturn 2 gives me far less problems with build plate issues.
First thing I did was install a flex plate mod to my build plate
@@ConsciusVeritasVids mine is arriving today!
Which VOC meter do you have? I can't find a good desktop monitor. Would greatly appreciate a reply!
I got you brother, temtop m10 is the one i have. It's also wireless but only for a few hours, better just ram an usb into permanently
@@NoizieWorks Thanks very much good sir! Great content btw I'll be back to watch more vids
@@Janovich thanks for the beer money 🤘🤘
Hi, I dont mean to sound like i am attacking your or anything I am just disagreeing with your bad points. The issues u brought up are all cause you wanted to use this printer for sizes its not ment to be for or maybe the jupiter or bigger ones would have been the better option. Also cutting up your prints into smaller piece is the way to go.
no you're fine 😉 thanks for the opinion i appreciate it.
Heard that with a couple of the early releases the towers loose and people have had to tighten it up themselves! I've had mine for 4 months without any issues and I print massive statues hollow never had a wobble like my anycubic m5s
Tower isn't loose it's the mounting solution for the buildplate that flexes on mine
So what would you recommend instead?
@RCONSTRUCT i don't have enough experience in resin printers to do a recommendation but the jupiter is still my go to
Do you have a suggestion for a wash cure station that fits well with the saturn ultra's build plate?
The elegoo mercury xs is the only one i tested and seems to work fine for now. You get a handy little led to put int the hollowed parts.
I purchased the Saturn 3 12K over this printer.
The Ultra does have wifi. But that's not a reason to get it and deal with the other stuff wrong on the Ultra
@@Labyrnthdom sounds about right
Good review, and if anything, you were overly gentle - Elegoo has been plaguing their paying customers with half-assed nonsense like z-flex since they started, you'd think by now they could get at least that right...
The shame is not that the S3U is a bad printer, the shame is it could have easily been so much better with normal mechanical engineering and simple use improvements (like bigger resin tray with a more convenient fastening method, for example).
Keep up the good work, your content and presentation are always a pleasure to watch!
Thanks retro!
Hi
What is your recommendation for printing dental models and surgical guide with hi precession and low cost please
Haven't tested dental resin my dude. Also totally noob in that matter so i'm afraid i can't help with that.
Good video as always!
i think your the first review ive seen critique the vat size and i think your totally right in doing so.
Agreed. I've had failed prints when I first started going from smaller printers and not realizing how fast it eats up resin on larger builds.
@@BabyJesus66Is there no aftermarket pump?
Where did you get the files for the resin tank clip?
www.printables.com/model/298459-jupiter-vat-latch-system
@@NoizieWorks thank u
What settings did you used for those miniatures? 0.05? Any anti aliasing?
.025 no AA at full speed so 300mm/min
for how many prints do you use the bottle of resins?
Do you mean how much i can print with it? The hammer i printed is about 700grams of material supports incl.
my drive for my plate just shit the bed after two months of use. not sure if its a known issue but I know I've seen it one other time.
It's not common in the support groups so you might be just unlucky. Knowing Elegoo they will help you out solving it.
What was the resin used for those minis?
Jamghe standard+, you can see the review on the resin testing gauntlet Playlist
How is their tech support?
From what i can gather in the support pages good
I fill mine over the line and not one splash
Great 😉
Man, 50% faster and wifi is not a huge deal?
Nope, putting in a sheet of acf and wifi is not a ULTRA big deal. Btw the 4 ultra got leaked
I've had this a month now as my first printer and I've barely had a decent print out of it.
I had to fit a heater, due to prints falling off, but my main problem now is distortion.
Everything warps.
It seems as soon as I fix one problem, something else screws it up and I feel like trashing the whole damn thing and taking up needlework. 😭
One further thing. There are some little plastic covers on the build plate. One fell off, got under the plate and put a hole in my ACF.
Remove them.
What do you mean with warps? Like on the buildplate or after cleaning it.
@@NoizieWorks For instance, if I print a cube, either flat on the deck or suspended by supports, I end up with curved edges.
Angling the part in any direction makes no difference.
man i just bought my saturn 3 ultra 12k about 12 hours ago, waiting for it to ship. I hope I didn't make a mistake for my first 3d printer!
You will be fine, give it a .5 sec rest time and don't chase speed and you will get what you want. They just need to do better
@@BullzOfSteel Don't panic, it is a good printer, and I think I would get the same problems with any of them. It's just being new to the game. I would say get a heater, get a flex panel and follow this link, and it will fix 95% of the issues.
docs.google.com/document/d/1Z8fkzOxEgI9sOTwDKI6CeblpnuP4V8ayYVwZrYGmo44/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs
i have just brought one, had it for 2 weeks and yet to have a print work, pretty sure it's my issue, with leveling or temperature, but still a nightmare at the moment
Did you level on the fep, i would start with that. What is it exactly that fails?
@@NoizieWorks i have tried to but i had resin in the vat while i did it so i think thats the reason, it's bed adhesion, either the print peels off half way through, or doens't stick at all
@stephenmarston2743 what bottom exposure are you running? I would try it on a empty vat for sure and maybe add some extra bottom to 30 seconds with a .5sec rest time
Ditto. I feel your pain.
@@NoizieWorks I've done it with the card, with an empty vat, with a full vat, nothing seems to work well. ranged from 18-25 secs bottom layers.
yeah it's basically a saturn 2 with acf and a 12k screen lol I prefer the gktwo tbh
Yes... you have a gktwo?
@@NoizieWorks yes and a Saturn 2 !
@@NoizieWorks it works really well but don't expect better quality print than a Saturn 2 it's just more convenient and more reliable (so far) I hade so many problems with my Saturn when trying to dial in settings like the build plate being okay ish at best lot of wobble from the Z axis meaning unstable lifting and can't handle more speed etc etc hopefully the gktwo will make be okay in the time, tho the skinny axis is kinda scary but who knows
@@theo._.5593 I'm really disappointed in Elegoo honestly and the buildplate flexing is just sad engineering. All these brands right now are racing to the bottom instead of making a product that is going to last the time. Keep me updated on the machine brother!
@@NoizieWorks to be clear I'm not saying the gktwo is perfect I'm a really sceptical guy but I felt it was time for me to step back and realize what they call 8k is actually already fine for my need I would prefer other improvements that makes sense HEATING, better cleaning process and access , cheap pièces ( bought a spare bed for 60 euros on Amazon , official one too !) If I have to list all the cons of the gktwo:
-Week door hinges (you can either open or close it it can't stay in a in between position
-no better print quality than others modern printers it's similar to my Saturn 2 imo by eyes at least
-the heating solution is not directly heating the vat itself so it's not efficient and could be better for sure
-the brand ! We don't know them, we can't trust them that easy!
-I can't manage to print via wifi or network while there's a Network connection to it maybe it's just me idk
-the vat doesn't have a lip to poor out resin come on guys... (I made a 3d solutions like we did for the Saturn)
-the vat is not clear about the max lvl of resin and is small, made out of plastic the clips mechanism has broken for some ppl (tho you can print the replacement feets that does this it's still to consider if it's your only printer
-not enough trust on the brand again and again I wish we had an leader company listening to enthusiastic, sharing etc etc this business can work so hopefully they'll go for it if you don't make the best resin don't bs us trying to sell us this crap.... I still use my elegoo resin after this year's am I loyal or simply lazy idk ? But we should have some feedback from company those products are complex, and dangerous be transparent...
-oh and this is to be picky but the build volume isn't an upgrade if you had a Saturn 2 before it's basically the same kinda
Hi, I’m about to buy this printer (I can’t wait until Saturn 4 ultra shipping).
Is there a way to fix Z axis flex/wobble with larger prints?
Thank you
Yes, use enough rest time after retract and your going to be finen😉
@@NoizieWorks thank you! Just ordered it. Will try increasing the rest time if I run into any issues
@@Arseny.Petukhov have fun 😉
Why you say this video is not sponsored, and TH-cam show me that this video is sponsored by elegoo?
What? They don't even bother to answer an email to me so why would they sponsor me? Could you show me a picture of where it says that it's sponsored by Elegoo? You can send it to my email,fb or insta
@@NoizieWorkssry i was wrong, this is random sponsor from TH-cam.
Anyway, nice review. I love how you show every single details of a products
@@3DPrismaPrint yup, that's how i like it
Mine produces brittle garbage that won't detach from the plate without a jackhammer.
that's going to be a problem with the resin you are using, if it sticks way to much to the bed you can lower the bottom exposure until it doesn't