@@lufufi3iboo yeah but Melon literally cites that Adam Neely video and says there’s too much here at play for it not to be her copying sorry Dua stans but shes going to lose
The thing that’s fishy to me is that this was only uploaded on SoundCloud. And if you know anything on SoundCloud you know that you can change the file for a track and it doesn’t say so for all we know they could have heard it, made a song copying her, and than switched the file with the actual live your life track. Why was it not on Spotify or Apple or any other service? Like I’m not saying it’s a completely different song but it could have been a little bit of a different melody or rhythm and than they changed it and reuploaded it. How was it number 2 on the reggae charts yet it wasn’t on the more popular streaming services. It only has 200 plays on SoundCloud when levitating was written so I don’t know how they could have heard it. Dua has sampled before and given credit so why would she have not done it this time and also did they try reaching out to her for a co-writing credit before going to court? The only audio outside of SoundCloud you can find on the song came out in the last 3 days on TH-cam yet in the lawsuit they say it’s been available on all streaming services since 2017. Also I looked up the reggae chart thing and can’t find any evidence of this chart existing. Billboard has a reggae albums chart but not a songs chart. There are videos showing how you can change SoundCloud audio and even though the song has been up for four years there was only a comment made after a lawsuit. There’s no way a song gets successful enough to chart that high and no one comments. Also, both songs literally sound like Rosa parks by outkast to me.
@@bennett4789 yeah it makes sense because dua mentioned them as inspiration. Artikal sound system, a white reggae band, never did though and is now trying to sue her when they were both probably inspired by Rosa parks. It’s gentrification at its peak.
Wow, never thought about that. They're really playing us, all smoke n mirrors. Wouldn't be surprised if it's a stunt to distract us from babies being eaten
Call me crazy but unless a song is like 70%+ identical you can't sue. 'Owning' a sequence of notes is as ridiculous as owning a sequence of DNA (which sadly exists). We need a massive rewrite of the DMCA, it's over 20 years old
This was my thought exactly. And SoundCloud would be a great place to find obscure producers and artists that may not be aware enough or litigious enough to pursue a major label ripping off their song. I suspect if Levitating hadn't been as massive of a hit this suit would never come to light.
the whole wiggle\don diablo thing is a stretch, it's mostly just saying lyrics fast with a descending scale. I do find it funny that there's a Don Diablo remix of levitating now now they're trying to sue for similarity to a song called Don Diablo though.
from Adam's correction in the comment section: "The band at one point had a different singer, the Jamaican singer Monsoon Bedward, but all songs the band did with Monsoon have been removed from streaming services for reasons that are unclear. Monsoon, née Denton, is named as a plaintiff in the lawsuit alongside the other current members of the band."
Smaller artists/labels are probably doing this because covid and money's tighter than ever but goddammit, they should've known it more than anyone that everything is inspired by everything. Reminds me of a quote from the graphic designer, Chris Do: _"The idea of being original is both ignorant and arrogant. Ignorant, because you don't know what's come before. Arrogant, because you think it was all you."_
I still think Artikal's case is iffy, but it's definitely the stronger one. If I heard one of the 2 songs playing from a different room, muffled, I might not know which one it was. I can understand them hearing Dua's song on the radio and saying "Wait a minute, we did that song before." But the other one is insane. It's literally just eighth notes and a descending scale. Anyone can come up with that, which of course is why so many do. It's like copyrighting the disco beat.
"It's just like a generally good fun groovy pop song *cough* that feels modern but also has a throwback soulful kinda disco feel to it at points." Yeah almost like a...... FUTURE NOSTALGIA?
So this band has basically no followers on SoundCloud and gets to ride the coattails of a hugely popular artist because she made a similar song? Music lawsuits are nearly always garbage, this one is no different.
@@PhreakPhantom even from a musician pov video like Adam Neely's, it concluded that this law suit is bs. If a musician says they can own chord progressions and rhyme schemes, they really aren't honest musicians.
@@PhreakPhantom It’s also the same song as El Diablo by Miguel Bose, Rosa Parks by Outkast or Kiss Kiss by Tarkan. Big pop songs like this are bound to have similarities to other songs, that doesn’t mean it’s a copy or they plagiarized it, artist borrow sounds and ideas from other artists all the time. This small group didn’t invent that rhythm, if they win the precedent they created should mean they should be sued by Outkast and lose. And just taking into consideration the cheer amount of music out there, it’s inevitable for coincidences like this to happen.
This feels a bit like what happens to Coldplay from time to time. The songs are so repetitive and simple that is very likely that someone has made the song before. Pop has a bit of the taco bell problem, there are just enough combinations with the elements you have to choose from.
People are missing out on the fact that the "original" song was only on Soundcloud before the lawsuit if you search Google by date. Their other songs only got hundreds of listens after this lawsuit, so the amount of listens the original song had was also extremely low. Someone who produced for Madonna and Dua Lipa (both are disco albums btw) are NOT gonna scrap the bottom of Soundcloud for inspiration. Outkast's Rosa Parks has the same chord and the producer actually stated that one of the album's inspiration was Outkast so there's that This is like saying Jonas Brother ripped off Gorillaz because Sucker has the same chord as O Green World
The song debuted at No. 2 on the reggae billboard charts in 2017 when it came out so it's not that crazy someone from dua's team could have come across it that way.
Prediction: Dua Lipa uses this controversy as her opportunity to retire from the music industry and return to her native Albania. Then she runs for office and fulfills her destiny as the spiritual reincarnation of Enver Hoxha 🇦🇱.
This reminds me of that episode of silicon valley where the old lawyer says he just made a career of BS lawsuits based on terrible songs that are vaguely similar to other songs.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but with the reasoning they’re claiming couldn’t Artikal Sound System then be sued by Outkast or the people that made the 2 disco songs?
Watch the whole video. It’s not just the chord progression also found in that Outkast song, but that plus multiple other elements. Obviously you can’t own a chord progression, although people try to, but in this case they are trying to sue for much more than that. It doesn’t make it any more likely that she and her producers ripped off the song, but probably looks that way to a jury.
I mean sure but it’s not up to court to consider a hypothetical third plaintiff if this doesn’t set any precedence, which it won’t. The Led Zeppelin lawsuit 40 years ago is precedence enough
@@kaingates yea but the lawsuit specifically says they believed lipa’s team heard their song and stole it right? how could they prove that when the Outkast song predates both, was way more widespread, and there are interviews w lipa where she says she was listening to a lot of outkast while the album was being written (before the lawsuit was filed obviously) ?
@@peach_total Because they're song is closer to Lipas. And they're argument only means that "hey, if OutKast believes it's their copyrighted work she's infringing on then they should sue". And doesn't really matter what Lipa has said publicly, it's what the production assumed was a trope instead of trademarked music. (sidenote; something Adam Neely doesn't want to talk about, the band is way closer to Lipa even though the techniques used in the Outkast song is the same the lyrics, chord and composition is closer to this song). See it doesn't matter if she says "oh no I stole it from these guys, and not these guys" because what the court hears is "I stole it"
I do remember a while back Dua Lipa just took somebody's art and tried to use it to promote a single or something without asking or even crediting them. So she and her team don't really strike me as people who are that concerned about stealing ideas.
@eV Avoz Dont go out of your way to sound this stupid on the internet. You sound like the same racists who try to give crap to black women for having straight hair. It isn't the same thing and you know that.
Really? I gave it a chance since the content was good but after six minutes of listening to him chewing and swallowing I had to tap out. Don't know how you guys thug it out through that.
@@VirgilOvid I’m 13 minutes in and didn’t even realise he was chewing or eating, only the drinking and when he was talking about the chocolate I realised why he made 2 seond breaks here and there. Maybe you’re sensitive to sounds? It might be that so maybe try to regulate yourself somehow when you can’t handle certain sounds like chewing to a point you have to stop a video that isn’t about eating. I hope you can work on that when you realise it happening again.
I'm genuinely curious how this will parallel with the ongoing Ed Sheeran plagiarism case. I'm not sure if mainstream music is getting more litigious, but it's very interesting to see how they'll be ruled.
I remember one producer/DJ saying something like modern crate-digging was a script he had that allowed him to input a number of hashtags (don't think it was on SoundCloud), it ripped everything that matched with under 50 plays, then filled the iPod on trips and took note of anything of interest. Now it's incredibly unlikely we'll ever hear if it was really lifted, but it's not impossible a top pop producer has people who do just that.
Artikal Sound System has the strongest case here since structurally their hooks are the most similar. The same can't be said for Miguel Bosé and Cory Daye though, at the end of the day you can't own chord progressions.
@@themusicaljunkie37 Idk I mean obviously some bs has happened in court decisions but the moment someone tries that, the defense will show the jury dozens upon dozens of older songs using the same chords
I listened to a podcast a few months ago where dua lipa explained the entire creative process of her and her team on the Levitating track... makes ya think
The Latin-influenced song Melon was trying to think of may be the Ketchup Song. That shit got really popular in the US and it has really similar vocal lines.
I read that you can change the sound of old posts on Soundcloud? So there would actually be a chance they copied Levitating changed an old song and then filed a lawsuit lol (idk if that’s true though)
there's a song called "aserejé" that has the same vocal melody of "don diablo." That might be the hispanic song that you have listened to that has the same flow
The article fails to mention the Artikal song went #2 on the Billboard reggae chart. Not massively popular but it makes it more likely to have been heard by her songwriters.
The song did not go number 2 on the reggae charts, I don't think a billboard reggae song chart even exists, the ep the song was on went number 2 on the album chart for 1 week before falling off the week after.
If Dua Lipa and company really heard that "Artikal.." song and "that" song really is indeed made in 2017 and heard by people... then when "Levitating" was released critics/writers/people should have pointed it out already 🤷♂️
There's only so many chord progressions, and on top of that chord progression, there's only so many melodies you can pick. Everything has been done unless you wanna sing a melody that doesn't work over the chords. We're at a point now, where these suits are over. You have to have insane similarities and proof they had listened to the song before hand.
23:16 that vocal line immediately reminds me of the British classic, The Ketchup Song. Pls listen to it, Melon. It's a masterpiece. We need your reaction to it.
The Artikal Sound System song is really similar to Levitating. And I listen to a lot of disco music. It's not out of the question that Dua Lipa's producers heard it
I think people have to understand that there is only so many notes on a keyboard, and eventually everyone will be just copyrighting eachother, I mean producers don’t get sued for using the same 808 or snare or sounds etc. let alone don’t get sued for using the same chord progression. This argument is stupid and they wouldn’t be sueing if this song was not a hit, they are just trying to steal some money for something as stupid as that.
Miguel Bosé is reaching because he's broke now. His voice is gone and he can't go back to spain bc he owes taxes lol. He lives here in México now and goes on ANY shitty common denominator TV show that will give him money. He needs this Dua Lipa cash so he can stop having to be a judge on Pequeños Gigantes and (mexican) The Voice: Kids. Btw I super disagree with you on that it's more likely that she or her producer heard some random soundcloud song over ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS AND INFLUENTIAL HISPANIC SINGERS EVER lol. I still think he's reaching and desperate though.
Thinking about how he was a COVID denialist/anti masker at the beginning, not to mention many dislike him because of the surrogacy born children. It's a shame he's stoop so low, truly the fall of an icon
Pretty sure he didn't say that "it's more likely she heard this obscure song" he was saying it's more likely because it sounds a lot more like the song than his does
Ight so hear me out... what had happened here was A.S.S went to their past Soundcloud uploads and just replaced an older song with the song their suing Lipa for. Kinda like how comethazine blew up off YBN Namir's "bounce out with that". sound quality of live your life sounds terrible, as if it was thrown together madd quick.
Also one of the producer's on Levitating is from Miami, and Artikal are apparently from South Florida, so maybe he's into local reggae (or was in 2017)?
Referring to a record as a “cut” is one of the reasons I regularly tune in.
Says the guy referring to a track as a “record”
@@dappunk1 Says the guy referring to a song as a "track"
@@zoda5898 says the guy referring to a ditty as a “song”
@@zoda5898 Says the guy referring to a musical number as a "song"
@@dappunk1 says the guy referring to a composition as a “ditty”
Adam Neely's video on this was really good at explaining why this, and other lawsuits like it, are totally bunk
In this case it doesnt matter idk why yall keep commenting this lmao shes not going to win because of some lame youtube semantics
@@royalwarlord2342 I don't think people are expressing their opinions in hopes of making her win but okay
@@lufufi3iboo yeah but Melon literally cites that Adam Neely video and says there’s too much here at play for it not to be her copying sorry Dua stans but shes going to lose
@@royalwarlord2342 that doesn't really have anything to do with your comment
@@lufufi3iboo what the fuck are you talking about lmao thats literally what the guy said, take this L clown
All songs are actually written by Marvin Gaye
Marvin Gaye is music embodied
Marvin Gaye wrote every single Carti lyric, including the ad-libs
Exactly like what is even the argument !
This is a common misconception. However, the song Grandma's Hands was written by Bill Withers. Everything else was written by Marvin Gaye though.
Marvin Gaye wrote illmatic at the age of 16
Calling Dual Lipa a snack for 36 minutes straight is quite an original take, Ant-knee.
And a true one
@@judahunderwood8433 indeed
The thing that’s fishy to me is that this was only uploaded on SoundCloud. And if you know anything on SoundCloud you know that you can change the file for a track and it doesn’t say so for all we know they could have heard it, made a song copying her, and than switched the file with the actual live your life track. Why was it not on Spotify or Apple or any other service? Like I’m not saying it’s a completely different song but it could have been a little bit of a different melody or rhythm and than they changed it and reuploaded it. How was it number 2 on the reggae charts yet it wasn’t on the more popular streaming services. It only has 200 plays on SoundCloud when levitating was written so I don’t know how they could have heard it. Dua has sampled before and given credit so why would she have not done it this time and also did they try reaching out to her for a co-writing credit before going to court? The only audio outside of SoundCloud you can find on the song came out in the last 3 days on TH-cam yet in the lawsuit they say it’s been available on all streaming services since 2017. Also I looked up the reggae chart thing and can’t find any evidence of this chart existing. Billboard has a reggae albums chart but not a songs chart. There are videos showing how you can change SoundCloud audio and even though the song has been up for four years there was only a comment made after a lawsuit. There’s no way a song gets successful enough to chart that high and no one comments. Also, both songs literally sound like Rosa parks by outkast to me.
u so right on the rosa parks shit bro
@@bennett4789 yeah it makes sense because dua mentioned them as inspiration. Artikal sound system, a white reggae band, never did though and is now trying to sue her when they were both probably inspired by Rosa parks. It’s gentrification at its peak.
@@sakinaalia1067 gentrification? Are white people allowed to do anything anymore without being accused?
@@amasim86 nah go away for good
@@nsinghize real
Some say if you rearrange the letters in the name DUA LIPA you get ARTIKAL SOUND SYSTEM.. it’s quite haunting
😂
Mindblown 🤯
Wow, never thought about that. They're really playing us, all smoke n mirrors. Wouldn't be surprised if it's a stunt to distract us from babies being eaten
Call me crazy but unless a song is like 70%+ identical you can't sue. 'Owning' a sequence of notes is as ridiculous as owning a sequence of DNA (which sadly exists). We need a massive rewrite of the DMCA, it's over 20 years old
Those reggae people copied OutKast’s Rosa Parks anyway.
Right
Y’all mf don’t realize that part of the lyrics are plagiarized too
@@azetatoto4 Yes
The lyrics
"All night" are so original and not generic that Dua Lipa couldn't have come up with them on her own
@@joshuajames6481 yeah people forget that artikal sound system invented Night that's why they're so obscure
That's not how Reggae riddims work but continue your hot take
To me it actually makes more sense that producers would steal from very obscure songs rather than songs that have a lot of views.
It's really a thing. Underrated
Pretty much.
This was my thought exactly. And SoundCloud would be a great place to find obscure producers and artists that may not be aware enough or litigious enough to pursue a major label ripping off their song.
I suspect if Levitating hadn't been as massive of a hit this suit would never come to light.
the thing is 'stealing' here is bullshit lmao
Yeah except how does someone know what will work and what won't especially if the original didn't get any attention?
That Latin vocal line is the Ketchup song by Las Ketchup I’m European I got that song branded on my frontal lobe
And in turn Las Ketchup ripped the vocal 'sounds' in the chorus from Rapper's Delight. This is so stupid lol
the whole wiggle\don diablo thing is a stretch, it's mostly just saying lyrics fast with a descending scale. I do find it funny that there's a Don Diablo remix of levitating now now they're trying to sue for similarity to a song called Don Diablo though.
Dua Lipa gets sued by her music samples & Fantano re-uploads a video because of song descriptions.
Thatʼs a very weird day.
Not even a sample, its a well known by any musician rythm and a basic chord progression
@@isaaccastro4846 Not you though, smart guy
Adam Neely said it best - no white reggae band has the right to an OutKast song
yeah i agree with this
from Adam's correction in the comment section: "The band at one point had a different singer, the Jamaican singer Monsoon Bedward, but all songs the band did with Monsoon have been removed from streaming services for reasons that are unclear. Monsoon, née Denton, is named as a plaintiff in the lawsuit alongside the other current members of the band."
Apparently you can edit SoundCloud audio without changing the stats. BRUHHH
Smaller artists/labels are probably doing this because covid and money's tighter than ever but goddammit, they should've known it more than anyone that everything is inspired by everything. Reminds me of a quote from the graphic designer, Chris Do:
_"The idea of being original is both ignorant and arrogant. Ignorant, because you don't know what's come before. Arrogant, because you think it was all you."_
Artists copyright claiming other artists has to be the most depressing thing in the industry
I still think Artikal's case is iffy, but it's definitely the stronger one. If I heard one of the 2 songs playing from a different room, muffled, I might not know which one it was. I can understand them hearing Dua's song on the radio and saying "Wait a minute, we did that song before."
But the other one is insane. It's literally just eighth notes and a descending scale. Anyone can come up with that, which of course is why so many do. It's like copyrighting the disco beat.
Dua Lipa: 😐
Dual IPA: 😲
Its pure nonsense, theres a zillion songs that sound the same
Pretty much everything sounds the same
"It's just like a generally good fun groovy pop song *cough* that feels modern but also has a throwback soulful kinda disco feel to it at points." Yeah almost like a...... FUTURE NOSTALGIA?
So this band has basically no followers on SoundCloud and gets to ride the coattails of a hugely popular artist because she made a similar song? Music lawsuits are nearly always garbage, this one is no different.
Get a musician pov. It is literally the same song.
@@PhreakPhantom even from a musician pov video like Adam Neely's, it concluded that this law suit is bs.
If a musician says they can own chord progressions and rhyme schemes, they really aren't honest musicians.
@@PhreakPhantom It’s also the same song as El Diablo by Miguel Bose, Rosa Parks by Outkast or Kiss Kiss by Tarkan.
Big pop songs like this are bound to have similarities to other songs, that doesn’t mean it’s a copy or they plagiarized it, artist borrow sounds and ideas from other artists all the time. This small group didn’t invent that rhythm, if they win the precedent they created should mean they should be sued by Outkast and lose.
And just taking into consideration the cheer amount of music out there, it’s inevitable for coincidences like this to happen.
This feels a bit like what happens to Coldplay from time to time. The songs are so repetitive and simple that is very likely that someone has made the song before.
Pop has a bit of the taco bell problem, there are just enough combinations with the elements you have to choose from.
all songs listed in the description
We don't care
@@HipHopfan_ big caca
@@theonlycaamz w
People are missing out on the fact that the "original" song was only on Soundcloud before the lawsuit if you search Google by date. Their other songs only got hundreds of listens after this lawsuit, so the amount of listens the original song had was also extremely low. Someone who produced for Madonna and Dua Lipa (both are disco albums btw) are NOT gonna scrap the bottom of Soundcloud for inspiration. Outkast's Rosa Parks has the same chord and the producer actually stated that one of the album's inspiration was Outkast so there's that
This is like saying Jonas Brother ripped off Gorillaz because Sucker has the same chord as O Green World
Exactly. I will not tolerate this Stuart Price slander
Also you can replace sound files on soundclouds and it will keep the old date
@@alphachad3763 exactly. All the comments are from after the lawsuit. It’s clearly bullshit.
Yeah I also watched the Adam Neely video
The song debuted at No. 2 on the reggae billboard charts in 2017 when it came out so it's not that crazy someone from dua's team could have come across it that way.
Prediction: Dua Lipa uses this controversy as her opportunity to retire from the music industry and return to her native Albania. Then she runs for office and fulfills her destiny as the spiritual reincarnation of Enver Hoxha 🇦🇱.
🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
I think she once even said something vaguely pro-Hoxha lol. She's from Kosovo tho, so it shouldn't be suprising, they like him there
@@wysanniksikondominium584 my brother in christ, what could dua lipa even say to please you here lmao
@@wysanniksikondominium584 I have no idea what that means
My mind is blown, had no idea she was East European
I love watching the music industry implode on itself.
Thanks for talking about this
This reminds me of that episode of silicon valley where the old lawyer says he just made a career of BS lawsuits based on terrible songs that are vaguely similar to other songs.
my thoughts exactly!!
Correct me if I’m wrong, but with the reasoning they’re claiming couldn’t Artikal Sound System then be sued by Outkast or the people that made the 2 disco songs?
Watch the whole video. It’s not just the chord progression also found in that Outkast song, but that plus multiple other elements. Obviously you can’t own a chord progression, although people try to, but in this case they are trying to sue for much more than that. It doesn’t make it any more likely that she and her producers ripped off the song, but probably looks that way to a jury.
@@scottysock5593 the problem is that Outkast's song also has that melody in some parts of it.
I mean sure but it’s not up to court to consider a hypothetical third plaintiff if this doesn’t set any precedence, which it won’t. The Led Zeppelin lawsuit 40 years ago is precedence enough
@@kaingates yea but the lawsuit specifically says they believed lipa’s team heard their song and stole it right? how could they prove that when the Outkast song predates both, was way more widespread, and there are interviews w lipa where she says she was listening to a lot of outkast while the album was being written (before the lawsuit was filed obviously) ?
@@peach_total Because they're song is closer to Lipas. And they're argument only means that "hey, if OutKast believes it's their copyrighted work she's infringing on then they should sue". And doesn't really matter what Lipa has said publicly, it's what the production assumed was a trope instead of trademarked music. (sidenote; something Adam Neely doesn't want to talk about, the band is way closer to Lipa even though the techniques used in the Outkast song is the same the lyrics, chord and composition is closer to this song). See it doesn't matter if she says "oh no I stole it from these guys, and not these guys" because what the court hears is "I stole it"
Copyright infringement DOES NOT HAVE TO EQUAL plagiarism.
Petition for you to make videos/streams like this where you talk about something a podcast so I can listen to you talking for example in my car
get a girlfriend
@@unmixedunmastered2810 wtf
listen to the old tnd podcast episodes
Whether you're a brother or whether you're a mother
You're stayin' alive, stayin' alive
I do remember a while back Dua Lipa just took somebody's art and tried to use it to promote a single or something without asking or even crediting them. So she and her team don't really strike me as people who are that concerned about stealing ideas.
Not excusing it but this seemingly happens every other week when it comes to an artist/artist’s team stealing a smaller artist’s IP for themselves
It's probably her team, rather than dua
But she always diligently credits samples and stuff so she has no reason to steal. If it’s stolen than her co writers did it subconsciously
@eV Avoz I know. It’s also funny because a white reggae band stealing a melody from a black artist is just gentrification at its peak
@eV Avoz Dont go out of your way to sound this stupid on the internet. You sound like the same racists who try to give crap to black women for having straight hair. It isn't the same thing and you know that.
I love when Melon takes a full three course meal while giving us his well thought out arguments 😋
Really? I gave it a chance since the content was good but after six minutes of listening to him chewing and swallowing I had to tap out. Don't know how you guys thug it out through that.
@@VirgilOvid wow people eat, how scandalous. Imagine giving a shit
@@VirgilOvid I’m 13 minutes in and didn’t even realise he was chewing or eating, only the drinking and when he was talking about the chocolate I realised why he made 2 seond breaks here and there.
Maybe you’re sensitive to sounds? It might be that so maybe try to regulate yourself somehow when you can’t handle certain sounds like chewing to a point you have to stop a video that isn’t about eating.
I hope you can work on that when you realise it happening again.
The irony of a white reggae band calling anyone a thief.. lol
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the adam neely video really opened my eyes
The dubadubaduba part also reminds me a bit of the song Asereje by las ketchups.
Exactly
I'm genuinely curious how this will parallel with the ongoing Ed Sheeran plagiarism case. I'm not sure if mainstream music is getting more litigious, but it's very interesting to see how they'll be ruled.
Sheeran even plagiarized the brazilian capoeira beat
Jokes on you Ed Sheeran won. No plagiarism
I remember one producer/DJ saying something like modern crate-digging was a script he had that allowed him to input a number of hashtags (don't think it was on SoundCloud), it ripped everything that matched with under 50 plays, then filled the iPod on trips and took note of anything of interest. Now it's incredibly unlikely we'll ever hear if it was really lifted, but it's not impossible a top pop producer has people who do just that.
Artikal Sound System has the strongest case here since structurally their hooks are the most similar. The same can't be said for Miguel Bosé and Cory Daye though, at the end of the day you can't own chord progressions.
You cant own chord progressions..... yet... someone's gonna try...
This dude breaks down Arkital sounds systems claim really well and dismisses it pretty well
@@themusicaljunkie37 Idk I mean obviously some bs has happened in court decisions but the moment someone tries that, the defense will show the jury dozens upon dozens of older songs using the same chords
Feels by calvin harris came out before that song right? And that song sounds very similar to this one
I listened to a podcast a few months ago where dua lipa explained the entire creative process of her and her team on the Levitating track... makes ya think
she said one of her inspirations for future nostalgia was outkast from what ive heard
The Latin-influenced song Melon was trying to think of may be the Ketchup Song. That shit got really popular in the US and it has really similar vocal lines.
I read that you can change the sound of old posts on Soundcloud? So there would actually be a chance they copied Levitating changed an old song and then filed a lawsuit lol (idk if that’s true though)
Shit I read you can change the date lmao it's very fishy that the only place this was hosted on was Soundcloud
there's a song called "aserejé" that has the same vocal melody of "don diablo." That might be the hispanic song that you have listened to that has the same flow
And asereje has the same vocal rythm of rappers delight
“I said the hip the hop(..)” == asereje
There's a music guy on TH-cam called Adam Neely who breaks down how this suit is hopeless.
referenced about 13 min in
The article fails to mention the Artikal song went #2 on the Billboard reggae chart. Not massively popular but it makes it more likely to have been heard by her songwriters.
The song did not go number 2 on the reggae charts, I don't think a billboard reggae song chart even exists, the ep the song was on went number 2 on the album chart for 1 week before falling off the week after.
Adam Neely did a SICK video on the situation
its fitting the acronym for Artikal Sound System is literally ASS lmaooo
Don’t forget the chorus of Spotlight by Jessie Ware
There really needs to be a penalty for just suing a person with a hit song. Like I hope it's expensive af and the accusee can counter sue.
Artikal Sound System claiming plagiarism is kinda hilarious considering their album art is literally just the GTA: Vice City logo.
How hasn't anyone noticed this flow is in Staying Alive by the Bee Gees ?
If Dua Lipa and company really heard that "Artikal.." song and "that" song really is indeed made in 2017 and heard by people... then when "Levitating" was released critics/writers/people should have pointed it out already 🤷♂️
It’s a white raggee band nobody knows them
@@Mr.TYN2474 White reggae band from Florida lol
It's a tiny group, obscure on sound cloud lol
There's only so many chord progressions, and on top of that chord progression, there's only so many melodies you can pick. Everything has been done unless you wanna sing a melody that doesn't work over the chords. We're at a point now, where these suits are over. You have to have insane similarities and proof they had listened to the song before hand.
Miguel Bosé is from Spain not latin or South American... But yeah, similar vocals but not copied at all.
I miss her two tone hair ngl
Don't care, I'm still bumping some dua lipa while I'm alone in the car...
Can't wait for the Levitating vs The Ketchup Song lawsuit 2k22
you were thinking about " asereje ha he"
Both choruses obviously drew from OutKast’s Rosa Parks. I doubt Dua Lipa ever heard Artikal Sound System’s song.
They just want to make money on Dua Lipa's back.
"the defense calls Anthony Fantano, music theorist and reviewer, to the stand"
That don Diablo song reminds me of the "Song of the Sebu" from VeggieTales lolol
YES I thought I was the only one that thought of that melody while watching this lmao
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Yeah, but are all songs listed in the description?
They are but he really should have put a 4 minute disclaimer at the beginning telling people they were there.
@@SBRS47 with dead silence
23:16 that vocal line immediately reminds me of the British classic, The Ketchup Song.
Pls listen to it, Melon. It's a masterpiece. We need your reaction to it.
you mean Asejere? , its from the spanish group Las Ketchup
I listen to Doing It Stealthy when I'm experiencing existential dread. It makes it worse but... I just can't stop.
The Artikal Sound System song is really similar to Levitating. And I listen to a lot of disco music. It's not out of the question that Dua Lipa's producers heard it
Copyright of pop songs, which have far fewer variables than a deck of cards, seems almost silly, given the number of pop songs out there.
Las Ketchup - Asereje?
The chord progression is very common.
Cold cold heart
24:40 It’s the ketchup song
29:40 holy shit I was tabbed out and I thought he said my name randomly. I was scared out of my mind lol
OutKast - Rosa Parks, listen to the outro
I think people have to understand that there is only so many notes on a keyboard, and eventually everyone will be just copyrighting eachother, I mean producers don’t get sued for using the same 808 or snare or sounds etc. let alone don’t get sued for using the same chord progression. This argument is stupid and they wouldn’t be sueing if this song was not a hit, they are just trying to steal some money for something as stupid as that.
Adam Neely has an excellent video on the subject. Much recommended
The fact that Artikal Sound System are suing Dua Lipa for a “chord progression” they probably copied from Outkast is hilarious to me.
Melon dragging Miguel Bosé
I came here thinking the "dula peep situation" was when she mic dropped mid concert, lol
Miguel Bosé is reaching because he's broke now. His voice is gone and he can't go back to spain bc he owes taxes lol. He lives here in México now and goes on ANY shitty common denominator TV show that will give him money. He needs this Dua Lipa cash so he can stop having to be a judge on Pequeños Gigantes and (mexican) The Voice: Kids.
Btw I super disagree with you on that it's more likely that she or her producer heard some random soundcloud song over ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS AND INFLUENTIAL HISPANIC SINGERS EVER lol. I still think he's reaching and desperate though.
Thinking about how he was a COVID denialist/anti masker at the beginning, not to mention many dislike him because of the surrogacy born children. It's a shame he's stoop so low, truly the fall of an icon
De verdad es el mismísimo Miguel Bosé el que está demandando a Dua lipa??
Pretty sure he didn't say that "it's more likely she heard this obscure song" he was saying it's more likely because it sounds a lot more like the song than his does
Same flow like the Ketchup song
The song you’re looking for is Ragatanga
You fixed that shit
If any musician can sue another musician for copying music, Playboi Carti would be the richest person on Earth.
lol Miguel Bosé and Cory Daye should be sueing each other as well
Ight so hear me out... what had happened here was A.S.S went to their past Soundcloud uploads and just replaced an older song with the song their suing Lipa for. Kinda like how comethazine blew up off YBN Namir's "bounce out with that". sound quality of live your life sounds terrible, as if it was thrown together madd quick.
playboi carti invented music, so if you think about it he should file a copyright lawsuit against everyone
I think you were referring to the ketchup song Anthony
No BoDy CoUlD HaVe StOlLEn FroM this, Its ToO obscure.
Yup...small artists have NEVER been screwed over before, NEVER 😂
The Don Diablo thing reminded me of Lily Allen's "LDN" as well. But only the Artikal Sound System song is really that similar to "Levitating" imo.
Waiting for las ketchup to sue dua lipa
Old boy with a fupa I see ya
It's identical, even same key
# justice for dula peep
Imagine if someone owned the reggeton beat. They'd be the richest person in the world.
I feel like the song you were thinking about was not 'Hey Macarena' but maybe 'Asereje' by 'Las Ketchup'?
Outside of what Adam Neely already covered on why this suit is BS, the Artikal Sound System song doesn’t even slap.
It slaps harder than the dribble that Dua's producers put out LOL
Also one of the producer's on Levitating is from Miami, and Artikal are apparently from South Florida, so maybe he's into local reggae (or was in 2017)?