@@GizmoFan1 Nah some of these people argue their point way too hard to just be fake contrarians Like yeah there are totally still people just baiting melon with shit takes but some people are really that crazy
@@shmeaglethebard5522 YEEE. For the record, I dont think I've ever heard a single Prince song in my life. I mean, I probably heard one at one point on the radio, but I wouldn't have consciously known it was him. I've been trying to get onto one of these for years lmfao. I knew I had to go further beyond with a hot take 😂
@@fil4648their rivalry was outside of music. They once had a ping pong match and Prince beat him so bad that he remarked something along the lines of “you play like Hellen Keller.” They also once played basketball and Prince beat MJ although he was 7 inches shorter and MJ was remarked to have played basketball as a youth
The fact that someone out there thinks Freddie Mercury's singing voice is/was overrated blows my mind. The dude has one of the biggest ranges in rock music. He had more than a three octave range, full voice. The guy could sing the phone book
I personally like his singing but one of my old roommates genuinely didn't like his voice much, but it wasn't anything to do with range or technical ability, my roommate did respect that he was talented, but it was just his personal taste because Freddie was too nasaly/abrasive for him, which honestly I do understand even though I disagree
most people are forgetting overrated does not mean bad. Edit: after discussions in the comments I feel like it should say overrated doesn’t ALWAYS mean bad.
@Mr Steinbergenson yeah i agree it is annoying when lesser known artists don't get radio play but bad artists do but it doesn't mean ALL popular bands/singers are inherently bad
@@joshuaosei5628 Overrated = Doesnt deserve to be as popular as it is due to its level of quality... Edit : Also meaning something isnt as good as it is claimed to be...Since one or two geniuses thought they need to remind me that it mainly has to do with '' work or quality '' despite the fact that i wrote '' due to its level of quality '' and it definately has a connection with popularity because most things which people call overrated are popular like Billie Eilish as an example..
@@properduction2586 Thats not what it means, pls do research. Overrated means if people think someone is better than what they really are. It has nothing to do with popularity
The only similarities I can think of between prince and MJ are that they were both African American pop rock superstars who arguably hit their peaks in the 1980's
People be like: “they an overrated singer bc they have a bad range” Artist: *has good range* People: “they overrated because they have poor technique though!!” Artist: *has good range AND good technique* People: “AlL ThEy Do iS ShOw OfF tHeIr VoCaL AbIlItiEs tHeY aRe So OvErRaTeD”
You shouldn't call Bob Dylan or Lou Reed "overrated" when they are generally not rated as top rate singers. Nobody ever said they were technically great singers. You either enjoy their style and expression or you don't.
@@markshepperson3603 Even someone with a very appealing voice like Neil Young likes range and technique, it were his tone and style the ones that made him so commercially successfull, aside of his songwriting obviously.
They are not overrated whatsoever, they are poets, excellent musicians and the top tier greatest songwriters, they also have more interesting and more tonally euphonic voices than those “big voiced divas” who just warble and try to sing a million notes per syllable whilst being incapable of even writing their own songs.
LET'S AGREE: If it wasn't for Prince and Michael Jackson being two black pop artists in the 80s, there would be little to no comparison between their music
True. I think its just cause they both were black and basically created the styles of the 80s... and that a lot of artists wanted to sound like them. It would've been interesting to have seen what they would do if they collabed.
Another reason the comparison is made is because many people find that prince is a better vocalist even though he isn’t as popular, so it does make sense to bring it up.
I think he is more overrated because of the story he had, his suicide, the aesthetic boys/girls wanting to romanticize all his depression, that Kurt was a believer in astrology, he liked anime, he was "in favor" of feminism, he wore dresses, etc... Many things that nowadays are considered cool and serve to fit into today's society standars.
@@marinadiamondz He didn't like anime, he didn't believe in astrology, but you are right about being in favor of feminism, but I think why he is considered cool is because he acted like he didn't give a shit about anything and didn't want the stardom.
@@skyluke5778 well, I think that in his suicide letter he made it clear that he believed in astrology by mentioning his zodiac sign and in heart-shaped box he also says so XD. And yea, I think it has a lot to do with their alternative style since those bands certainly thought they were unique and different due to having depression and not fitting into society as their main concept.
@@marinadiamondz Right, but my argument was mainly over the fact that he never was a great singer technically? his sound was great etc. but he isn't exactly considered an insanely talented singer, he's an insanely talented artist, iykyk
Right? He had a little more than 3 octaves and was absolutly INCREDIBLE in lower and higher registers, its not like alot of singers who have a similar ou bigger range but doesnt maintain the glow and versitility in some parts of their range. Freddy was potent on every aspect.
@@Shicomogs i dont really take on consideration his high notes above the sixth octave bc he is barely singing them, i think f2 - a5 is better bc it represents the notes that are actually solid and well placed, and not just random screams that he made like once and happened to be on the sixth octave.
Strong agree with your reaction to whoever said Freddie Mercury was over-rated or that Prince is the poor man’s Michael Jackson. Seriously shitty takes.
I'd agree that Mercury is overrated in the sense that he's rated as probably the best singer of all time, and while he's a fantastic singer I don't think he's the GOAT singer, but instead the GOAT performer alongside MJ. Mediocre he's not though that's for sure.
Not only that, but he could sing live just as cleanly as his studio performances. I've watched so many live videos of him singing and never heard his voice waver or crack in anyway. And with his energy on-stage, that feat is damn near impossible. Freddie Mercury can't be overrated, he can only be fairly rated as the greatest Rock singer of all time (Above the likes of Robert Plant, Roger Daltry, Mick Jagger, and even Paul McCartney who I would put at 2nd for rock vocals).
No big Queen fan, always too kitsch for me (I get it that's the point) but damn Freddie could sing and is rightfully recognised as one of the greatest rock singers of all time
It reminds me of an incident recently when I made a post on social media saying that I love a good guitar solo and someone asked me who my favorite guitarists are. I said Hendrix, Eddie Van, Angus Young, and Stevie Ray. And dude replied "Oh. You know they're all considered bottom of the barrel in terms of talent and influence." I wanted to shoot a motherfucker.
As for Bob Dylan, part of his contribution to the evolution of music is that he demonstrated that if the songs you write are good enough they will sound good even if you're not a technically good singer.
If MJ, Prince or Freddie don't deserve the recognition they have, who does lmao? I feel some of these people are just suburban middle class kids, or indie tryhards who praise whatever trendy Spotify artist is being promoted.
Maybe that's the point. Maybe their point is that no one deserves so much wealth and coddling just because they can sing and perform. Not sure if this is my viewpoint or not, though. But you did ask.
Yes they're pretty much punk. Grunge isn't a genre, it's a label given to rock music from Seattle. How come there would otherwise be any arguing on whether STP is grunge or not?
There are many people who think like that the bigger the fandom the more critics you get cause the fandoms overrate their favourite artist way too much
@@gaming4life788 if you use fandom as a factor to criticise music then you don't understand music at all. All those artistis mentioned above have a huge fandom because they deserved. They are timeless legends and deserve have all the praise they have got.
what was genuinely special about mj? so far to me he just seems eccentric, which got him a lot of attention, but there wasn't a lot of actual meaning in his songs that warranted all this praise i see heaped on him constantly, and he wasn't exactly skilled with lyrics either.
@@nabeelhasan8870it's just the vibe I think, I'm the same where I'm not crazy about him but he is a talented singer and if you're into his style then I could understand liking him a lot
I have a personal take. There are certain bands that were catapulted into the main stream... Of which I have no examples but hear me out... There are certain bands that could have stayed on the DL and they would have done pretty okay and because they were catapulted off like one good song I believe that sometimes a certain part of these band's audiences will think that they're over rated after putting out a follow up album to all that success and it gets shit on because it's not like [Previous Album]
That's usually what 'overrated' means. When there's no real criticism to cite, there's always 'overrated': "I'm angry that it's popular, and I can't stop putting my nose in the spoiled milk"
I kinda hate Adele’s music tbh I just can’t stand it it makes me cringe like she’s trying way to hard but that just my opinion no judgment to people who like her but I just can’t
I saw someone list out the lowest and highest notes some singers have hit and although Elvis typically rested in one area, his range from top to bottom was shockingly wide because of that falsetto paired with his deep deep lows
Melon like " Chad says " Let's agree everyone's opinion is overrated" I somewhat agree how you might see that . I mean there's definitely a tendancy to go for an opinion that just has shock value in it rather than constructive analysis to bring more attention but simultaneously there's a couple of actual good ones here... that Freddy mercury one was clearly the biggest case of stupidity though'
Kurt’s vocals are unmatchable. They are so personal to him and purposefully done the way they are that you need to have Kurt’s soul and artistic passion to express his lyrics. there is no faking it
Kurt Cobain’s soul and artistic passion is essentially that of a suburban high school junior who discovered weed and thinks everything he says is deep.
@@SirJigglesworth *shrug* Not really. The music is perfectly fine and I get why people like it. He wasn't a bad musician. But we act like his lyrics and voice are spiritual awakenings, yet he was the weakest lyricist and vocalist of the big four grunge bands. There's nothing wrong with that, and people can still prefer Nirvana to the rest. It's just strange to me that we feel the need to pretend it's somehow something more.
@@All5Horizonsmy dude you seem like the typical no problems in my life person who can’t see or understand when deep emotions are laid out through lyrics. Smh
why are people so dead keen on a wide vocal range? i'd rather have a singer with a unique style than some generic wide range one. not saying a wide vocal range is a bad thing, but it's not a necessity for singers imo.
It's not about necessity, people bring up range because it is impressive and can sound really good if done well. When talking about vocalists range is the thing that let's you stand out. Having a high and powerful voice literally makes you stand out, it's easier to hear. I'm not even being silly here. In a crowded bar or at a concert, the singer with the higher range will be heard better than the one that sings low. There is more to it too, a good song has range in the melody, going up or down creates drama, so singers with good range can have more dramatic and emotional songs. Of course it's not needed, I like singers who have small ranges too, it's just I don't think of them as amazing singers, I usually like them because they are great songwriters.
Right. Look at people like Frank Sinatra, he had a range of around D2-G#4 but his voice is one of the best I've ever heard. It's not about how high or low your voice can be, it's what you can do with it.
By the way . This is from his most famous song " But she never lost her head even when she was giving head " .... If Em or Kanye said that they would be getting hell 😂
@@outis439-A Yeah I know the story . And each stories of that song was well put together . However I do think he said that line especially to put some kind of humourous joke .
idc (and doubt very much) if michael jackson "changed the world". he has an annoying ass voice (dont get me started on those fucking screams, like stfu) fanatic fans that wont accept anything bad said against him, including him sleeping with random ass children, and is overall just a very unpleasant and obnoxious person. I will never understand why people worship him like the second coming of christ or some shit, just because he was popular.
too many pretentious wannabe critics. you show them a groundbreaking and technically impressive record and they'll say its "mediocre, basic, uncreative and uninspired"
The thing is, when something is popular at the current moment people don't like it. But then when it starts to fade away and becomes a different generation, THEN people start with all the "oh they were brilliant I wish I was born back then"
Freddie Mercury, Mariah Carey, Micheal Jackson? I was waiting for a dummy to say Whitney Houston so I can smash my phone against the wall. Some people just wanna be contrarian s or they just trolling.
You're right - the prince guy was confirmed trolling. When the video was first released he was up and down the comments here saying that he wrote that just to get in the video and that it wasn't a real opinion. A couple others are probably trolls too.
None of theses artists and singers are overrated. I'm not fans of all of them but I recognise their immense talent. Sometimes when we are too familiar with an artist and their music is overplayed there is a backlash which is where the overrated arguments come in
saying adele is nothing without her big and powerful voice is like saying mariah carey is nothing without her high range. yeah. thats what makes them good singers.
I honestly find Adele kind of hyped. She's great, don't get me wrong, but when she came onto the scene it was like people hadn't heard a white girl who sounded black before (Amy Winehouse *cough). I don't think she's necessarily revolutionary or unique, she simply has a great voice and sings great songs, which is great. Sometimes, though, I feel like I hear people raising her on a pedestal like she'll be remembered as another Aretha Franklin or something.
People compare Prince and Michael Jackson because they are both eccentric black musical geniuses with a high register voice. Nothing to do with their actual style.
Mrs. Featherbottom there never was. they just loved showing off and one upping each other because they had massive respect for each other’s work. most of the “beef” was made up by fans tryna argue who’s better which is dumb. both of them are talented black kingsss
In my opinion people ONLY compare MJ and Prince because they were both similar in physical appearance. Couldn’t be more different musically the only thing they share is being pop stars but for totally different reasons
the reasons were the same: they were both insanely talented and full of musicality. Not even their styles are different: they were both inspired by James Brown, Sly and the Family Stone, Little Richard. Still they were both able to create somethin unique, that's instantly recognizable.
@@richardkovacs2006 Their styles were completely different. For one, MJ collaborated with Quincy Jones who wrote most of his iconic tracks and Quincy Jones, while a genius, had a completely different take on pop, fusing pop R&B with elements of jazz. Prince had a much wider breadth of musical proclivities and borrowed far more from new wave, rock, and funk, as well as jazz. Furthermore, Prince mixed his albums completely differently, allowing different instruments to take center stage, whereas Jones always make Michael's vocals the heart of the track. Fantano is correct that you'll never mistake Prince for MJ sonically. They were completely different.
You’re probably right, I never listened to them growing up and missed their fame years, so basically I just have their appearances and reputation to go off of, which is why I always mix the two up
I agree. They are so stylistically and sonically different and I dont think either of them took the comparisons seriously. People really compared Sign O' The Times and BAD to one another back in the day. That just does a disservice to two amazing artists. I just laugh now, but Prince and MJ had two completely different approaches to their artistry and sought to give their fans two different listening experiences.
Freddie Mercury was the complete package and then some. The guy had a great voice and knew how to use it perfectly. He is not overrated. He was just that damn good. He could sing in any genre of music. Unlike some artists who might have a good voice but don't know how to use it. Or there's some genres they just can't sing in.
Prince was a musical genius, MJ had a voice from God, Cobain’s gruff delivery kickstarted a genre, Bob Dylan is the greatest songwriter of all time, and Freddie was probably the most talented frontman of all time (Chris Cornell and Plant were just amazing as well)
“Prince is the poor man’s Michael Jackson” BRUH. Prince was such a talented musician, he practically had his own genre. Look up "Minneapolis Sound." Whoever said he's a poor man's Michael Jackson is a casual.
IMO Michael is a superior technical singer but not by much. Prince had better range by a decent margin. Prince was a better instrumentalist by large margin but that's true of almost anyone compared to Prince. Michael was probably a bit better of a songwriter but at that point there are no losers. The idea that either could be a poor man's version of the other is ridiculous.
@@Adamdidit I'm a huge MJ fan but c'mon, Prince's songwriting ability exceeds Michael's by a long shot I think. Prince was technically more talented as a musician and instrumentalist, Michael was way more talented as an overall entertainer and and just a hugggee solo icon and phenomenal talent. It's like comparing David Bowie to James Brown... One was an instrumentalist singer, one was an enigmatic entertainer. Singing? Prince had a bigger range, while Michael was technically superior in terms of vocals and technique... I agree with you, would edge to Michael more
in some ways michael jackson was an underrated singer, particilarly in his adult years. people focused on the videos and overbown concerts etc. he always had too much going on on stage and too much pyrotechnics but if you purely analyse his vocals on record he was a great singer. very pure tone perfect for pop music
@@alecreyna1147 yea thats why i said "on record". he was never pure lip sync but because of the dance routines etc, I dont think he could keep the vocals going at the same time. its sad. I wish he went on jools holland or something and only danced in between the vocals. But from off the wall up to the end, people rarely mention the singing, which for the most part was fantastic.
@@OakplaysCGaming965 he was much more original as an adult. as a kid he was copying other singers and was amazing at it for sure. his main mark as a vocalist, left on the history of music and influencing other singers, was as an adult.
I love all kinds of singers, especially imperfect ones but with the people who think Freddie and Mariah are overrated for example, I'd love to know who they actually do rate as worthy of praise
@@ghostofdeath663 Yeah fam. It's coz of his obsessive fanboys who think that Freddie is an untouched vocalist who is incomparable to anyone. They make Freddie look like a god which absolutely proves why Freddie is overrated. Also the fact that how Queen fans overhype Bohemian Rhapsody like it's the greatest song ever made. Personally, apart from vocals Bohemian Rhapsody is boring. Like I don't get it why people overhype it so much, I don't find anything interesting about that song😂.
I'll say, when i became a Prince fan back in 2006-2007, people told me that all the time. "Bit like MJ but worse". Almost no one understood why i was so crazy about him. And now when he's dead, what do you know! There are Prince fans everywhere. Kinda pisses me off, but hey. Better late than never. Never been crazy about MJ. And don't get me wrong, i like a lot of his stuff. But he wasn't a genious the way Prince was.
I love every Era of Elvis from beginning to end. Fanthony got it right, he was good when he started, but when he came back; he had matured vocally and he a powerful control of his range.
Yeah Freddie doesn’t have vocal range and I’m the biggest rockstar of all time. Who in the actual fuck would have that kind of brain to think Freddie doesn’t have vocal range? His parents must be so disappointed for giving birth to that thing
@Michael South Geez calm down, it’s a joke. I’m not stupid to think that someone’s parents are disappointed just because their kid knows nothing about music
Overrated and Underrated are just stupid words now. They’re straight up used everywhere when people can’t think of any big words to say, or to emphasise how good stans think an artist is.
i wouldn't call freddie mercury 'bad' but nah i sincerely think queen is annoying and overrated. but ive not listened to freddie mercury solo so .. maybe thats more of a diss on queen
@@grizzlixxthis is an absolutely insane take. Freddie Mercury is a technically amazing singer. They absolutely revolutionized and impacted music in a huge way. You can personally dislike their style, but their talent and impact is undeniable.
@@strider3164 to me, technical talent is only a novelty, as a regular guy who just listens to the music. Ask someone who makes it, I’m sure its far more important. The impact and influence side, generally i just think its a weak reason for highly rating music, it just feels like conceding/implying that you dont really care for the music outside of some theoretical basis. Which, as a guy who only listens to the stuff, doesnt really compel me
Also, Just because its grunge doesn't mean the vocals have to sound like a dying lord of the rings cave troll. Eddie Vedder, Chris Cornell, and Layne Stanley are some of the best rock singers of all time and they all fall under the grunge genre will providing coherent singing.
Mariah Carey actually goes pretty unappreciated for her lower range. She can transition from super deep notes to her trademark high belting seamlessly.
Guadalupe Picasso - I'm sure her voice has changed slightly since she is older now, but for the most part, she can still do the whistle notes and everything.
Same thing with Ariana. They try to discount her singing by saying she can only do high notes (as if those are easy to do), but ignore her many songs with perfect lower note registry. She's not Mariah level yet but she's one of the few excellent vocalists of this generation which doesn't really seem to value vocalists that much. ffs Selena gomez had a 10 year music career.
her super deep notes are not worth the mention. like seriously, who gives a shit? it's unappreciated because it doesn't matter. she doesn't do anything interesting with it.
I love how the person said that Michael Jackson's voice is annoying, but has a Travis Scott profile picture. Travis Scott is the most noisiest rapper/singer. He has the auotune toggle all the way up and distortion to the maximum.
Mike Pattons is absolutely not overrated, he's awe inspiringly creative and absurdly versatile technicaly. It's not just the range, it's the willingness to explore and use each and any vocal technique known to mankind
Prince was one of the most talented artists ever to grace pop music, he could do more than dance and sing, he played A LOT of instruments fluently n excellently for fun
𝔍𝔦𝔪𝔪𝔶 Plus, Prince has all of his production work behind the scenes are many 1980s pop/dance hits. Dude will always be more enjoyable musically and more talented to me. M. J. has some massive hits, but I’ve never liked his music.
both are incredibly talented in their own respects.. I would argue prince was more talented as a musician and songwriter but michael jackson as a performer tops things
Anybody who has heard Michael Jackson's raw singing voice. Without going through any sound mixers or special microphones, just his voice straight from him, knows that man could sing. Sure he added the HEHE's and the CHAMOW all over the place, but that's what made him different. Vocally. That man could definitely sing.
Yeah, a truly obscene take. The dude sang his own harmonies. Not pitch shifting or auto-tuning, just doing multiple takes and having it layered onto the track. His range was insane. Go listen to "The Lady in My Life" and "Baby Be Mine" if there's any doubt in your mind. Or go listen to the acapella versions that people have been able to make from stripping the instrumentation out. I swear people are just listening to these artists on their phone speakers or something.
@@TheK1ngFiasco I don't need any convincing. My go to music is usually hard rock, metal, and some blues. I'm usually Metallica Pantera, John cougar, and a bunch of classic rock. I n wouldn't call myself a fan of Michael Jackson, and I do think he was a bit of a weirdo, but credit where it's due. The man could sing
i think mariah switches between vocal timbres and registers really well and with so much ease. and even with whistle tones, they’re used in the background of some tracks in clever ways. overrated, she is not.
Kurt was never aiming to sound technically good lol he started in punk and liked it because of how free it was, and then started a whole new music genre..He did have vocal control though I think he just chose and preferred to practically scream. Also MJ was no slouch either..and he did have actual vocal talent and Prince and MJ had such different styles lol
lol what "new music genre" did Kurt Cobain start!? Kurt was still making, at least in his mind, punk. But he didn't invent, or start, a new musical genre.
@@terrra_2024 i mean he was heavy in pushing grunge as that generation’s rock he didnt invent it, but saying he was not influential is, at least in my opinion, kinda dumb
@@cynicaldepression435 he's one of the founders for sure but he didnt invent it by far. matter a fact saying kurt cobain invented grunge is as stupid as saying elvis presley is the king of rock
3 at a push and even then take each of their biggest hits: in what world is Purple Rain similar to Billie Jean? Raspberry Beret to Thriller? This take annoyed me more than it had any right to I didn't think there could be a worse take than the Freddy one, but the internet proved me wrong
I'm a pretty big Patton fan but I definitely get he's an acquired taste that could be annoying but he definitely can just traditionally sing as well. Ex: faith no more- easy and tomahawk- captain midnight
People with brains can refuse to like a certain artist's music, but they cannot refuse the talent. Mariah Carey and Freddie Mercury are far from overrated. They are appreciated as much as they deserve.
in fact doing a video about 'overrated' singers is nothing but a cheap clickbait. Well, it's all about just fantano's opinion - based on what HE likes and doesn't like. He for sure has some narcissist traits.
Bob Dylan has never been rated as a good singer, so his inclusion on any "overrated singer" list is a misunderstanding. His fans, myself included, do not listen to his albums for his vocal ability.
Same goes for Lou Reed. Who has ever rated him as a strong vocalist? No one. We listen to him for the songs. Also, his style fits his songs. They're not written to be showcase pieces for vocal or instrumental virtuosity.
Nashville skyline. That album shows his incredible vocals. Also his vocal experimentation is next to none. He would try so many different styles and ways of singing yet you always know its him. But I agree Dylan fans, myself included don't generally listen to his albums for the vocals. He's only the greatest songwriter ever.
His vocals are much more than just about 'range'. He's got versatility and limitless expressivity. Singers like Hank Williams, Neil Young, heck even Springsteen etc. They're still great vocalists. It's a matter of what you value as great singing.
Ed Sheeran, Bob Dylan, Billie Ellish, Lou Reed and others: I've never heard anyone go one an on about them being great singers. They are all great song writers who sing and perform their own songs.
There were two types of people in this video: those that don't pay attention to song writing, and those that listen to music on their phone's speakers. Some of those takes made me wonder if those people needed their ears checked or needed a little bouncing ball to follow along with the lyrics.
@@BRobMint literally never, people always talk about his dance moves and think he's a "quite good" singer just because they only listened to the thriller album, real fans know his range was incredibly versatile and one of the greatest, he never gets credit and most people never heard his lowest vocals like in "2000 watts" on the Invincible album... I don't take this youtuber's opinion cause I know he's a MJ hater.
I mean due to how repeatative other artists' music is nowdays she's really original and I don't think she's that overrated. It's probably just that some people know just a few of her songs and bad guy is really overapreciated but she as an artist isn't.
@@doiknowyou6284 still didn't deserve 5 grammys . And I don't dislike Billie , I really like the singles and features but the album doesn't do it for me . I couldn't even complete it once.
Let's Agree: Ringo Starr was a god tier vocalist, making the other puny Beatles shiver in fear of his might. He may have a very limited vocal range but when you hear Ringo sing, you lose control of yourself due to the sensation it provides
Freddie Mercury was so good at singing that actual scientists were arguing over just how good he actually was at it decades after his death, so maybe thinking he's overrated is just a matter of personality.
That literally proves nothing. There are far better voices out there. Listen to Peter Murphy, his songs in Bauhaus AND his solo stuff. Incredible deep voice, godly, like no other. Makes Freddie’s voice look basic in comparison. Then listen to Andrew Eldritch and Siouxsie Sioux.
@@TripsX I don't see what that proves either. I love those singers too but calling Freddie 'basic in comparison' is wild. Not only was he a technical marvel but he was incredibly expressive and undoubtedly the best singer Queen could have possibly had.
Well... Freddie makes just about everyone's list of the greatest singers... therefore it's easier to argue he's overrated. That's not my opinion... he's the greatest singer I've ever seen live. Conversely, to argue Dylan is an overrated singer is lunacy. He's without doubt one of the worse singers I've seen live... and most know just how bad he is.
I think there’s times when his singing sounds great actually, but mostly his music is more about the writing. Although even then his version’s of his songs I like most still cause of the expression in his singing.
@@travis_redfern6771 The one time I saw Dylan, he was opening for Phil Lesh, and I guess I lucked out because having a short set meant he could really put his all into it, and he honestly sang surprisingly well, and was totally not phoning-it-in like some folks have described. He CAN do it when he cares, but that's the thing.
I heard this hipster on the subway singing Dylan on the subway, with an affected Dylan-accent, and about 15% more conventional vocal technique, and the songs totally came alive. I could see all the images in my head, which I hardly ever get from Dylan songs themselves. It’s almost like he intentionally butchered his songs cause he was shy or just a jerk.
LETS ARGUE: Löded Diper made great music, though only having two songs, and need to come back
Agreed. I'm glad Rodrick joined the band again at the end, or it would've flopped miserably.
meloni martini mhm, lets be honest, greg would be a great addition to the group
Carter Martin 😂
wait its a actual thing?
That was my favorite series as a kid lol
Most of these takes are just, "Once you remove the singer's best quality they're not that great".
Which is a valid reason to claim someone is overrated, since truly great singers have multiple qualities.
Anthony is overrated because he can only review music and without that, he is nothing
[artist] is a great vocalist but idk .. take away their ability to sing well, they got nothin goin for em at that point
A Magical Bucket I’ve never heard something so brutally true in my life
@@anormalbucket2911 He can play the base, make meme music and give hot news takes
LET'S AGREE: Some of these takes are just bad/ridiculous for the sake of getting on the video.
you said that like that isn't true of every single let's argue
@@GizmoFan1 Nah some of these people argue their point way too hard to just be fake contrarians
Like yeah there are totally still people just baiting melon with shit takes but some people are really that crazy
I WAS THE PRINCE ONE, HE FINALLY PUT ME IN ONE OF THESE 😭😭😭😭😭
@@phothewin6019 IT WAS YOU?!
@@shmeaglethebard5522 YEEE.
For the record, I dont think I've ever heard a single Prince song in my life. I mean, I probably heard one at one point on the radio, but I wouldn't have consciously known it was him.
I've been trying to get onto one of these for years lmfao. I knew I had to go further beyond with a hot take 😂
“Prince was the poor man’s Michael Jackson.”
-somebody who has never listened to prince
- me as a 9 year old Michael Jackson fan. I was very dumb
EXACTLY. You nailed it dude
Here I thought the feud was between Rick James and Prince. But a rivalry with mj would have been hilarious too.
Prince is more of a tribute to Talking Heads than Michael Jackson.
@@fil4648their rivalry was outside of music. They once had a ping pong match and Prince beat him so bad that he remarked something along the lines of “you play like Hellen Keller.” They also once played basketball and Prince beat MJ although he was 7 inches shorter and MJ was remarked to have played basketball as a youth
LET'S AGREE: Shawty IS like a melody in my head
I..... agree.
That I can’t keep out. Got me singing’ like....Na-Na-Na-Na everyday. It’s like my iPod is stuck on Replay. *Replay-ay-ay-ay*
I can see your point I agree to an extent
That should be projekt melody's wwe theme song lol
Yeah
So we clearly learned that badmouthing Prince is the most efficient way to trigger Anthony...
And me, apparently
@@jameskilgour387 AND ME!!
Ray is a moron, he deserved to get scolded
The-Big-AA And Me too!
We learned that on the video he said the only thing he'd take to a desert island would be his Prince altar
So basically the Adele criticism is saying that Adele’s voice wouldn’t be good if it didn’t have the thing that made it good. Like yes. Obviously.
U mean fat
Big voice energy
If Steph Curry couldn't shoot he would be a terrible basketball player.
@@zoo3708 nah steph would still have the court vision. Making him a good point guard.
Tazz She lost 100 pounds and sounds the same... so no.
The fact that someone out there thinks Freddie Mercury's singing voice is/was overrated blows my mind. The dude has one of the biggest ranges in rock music. He had more than a three octave range, full voice. The guy could sing the phone book
Him and Elvis.
@@dulls8475 lmfao, nah.
I personally like his singing but one of my old roommates genuinely didn't like his voice much, but it wasn't anything to do with range or technical ability, my roommate did respect that he was talented, but it was just his personal taste because Freddie was too nasaly/abrasive for him, which honestly I do understand even though I disagree
@jacobmillen751 not a bad take! I can't hate a take that backs up their opinion with valid points.
Three octaves isn't even close to the highest range. The highest are five to six octives.
most people are forgetting overrated does not mean bad.
Edit: after discussions in the comments I feel like it should say overrated doesn’t ALWAYS mean bad.
@Mr Steinbergenson yeah i agree it is annoying when lesser known artists don't get radio play but bad artists do but it doesn't mean ALL popular bands/singers are inherently bad
True, but it implies they're not as good as people think they are. When, usually, they are.
Like ant’ny
@@joshuaosei5628
Overrated = Doesnt deserve to be as popular as it is due to its level of quality...
Edit : Also meaning something isnt as good as it is claimed to be...Since one or two geniuses thought they need to remind me that it mainly has to do with '' work or quality '' despite the fact that i wrote '' due to its level of quality '' and it definately has a connection with popularity because most things which people call overrated are popular like Billie Eilish as an example..
@@properduction2586 Thats not what it means, pls do research. Overrated means if people think someone is better than what they really are. It has nothing to do with popularity
Let’s argue: Twitter Anthony and TH-cam Anthony are different people
I.. Agree!
it's not even a "let's argue", it's just a fact
oh my god it’s you
Ash Sussman
Our savior
instagram anthony terrifies me
Dude, my girlfriend watches these videos. Please wear sleeves.
Ik man melon might just steal you from you're gf
@@quedielzy8579 man that's best case scenario ngl
@@ryanschabert2515 LMAOOOO. This cracked me up.
“This party sucks”
Yeah, if you stare at those arms for too long he gon' turn you gay
The only similarities I can think of between prince and MJ are that they were both African American pop rock superstars who arguably hit their peaks in the 1980's
@@fireice8 Even though Dangerous was #1 album, it's hard to argue Thriller wassen't his peak
@@inigo9000 its not even an argument, Thriller literally changed the world of music.
And they both dead
No the similar Jheri Curls they had in the early 80s
MJ peaked in 79 actually 😂 but yeah also theyre feminine
People be like: “they an overrated singer bc they have a bad range”
Artist: *has good range*
People: “they overrated because they have poor technique though!!”
Artist: *has good range AND good technique*
People: “AlL ThEy Do iS ShOw OfF tHeIr VoCaL AbIlItiEs tHeY aRe So OvErRaTeD”
Lmao
mayrana2 girl I agree. You don’t need to like an artist’s music or style to at least acknowledge that they’re good at what they do.
I don't like you
Different people have different opinions, who would have thought ?
I Stan this comment
Let’s argue: the word “overrated” has lost all of its value.
It's an overrated word
Agreed. It’s pretty much code for “Stuff a lot of people like that I don’t”
People use it subjectively, but the word itself connotates a sense of objectivity
Overrated is overrated itself
@@jtjtjtjt10 and that false , if you don't like it doesn't mean it's overrated
“Prince is the poor man’s Michael Jackson” is probably the worst take I’ve ever seen on this channel
Absolutely rotten take.
Neither are worthy of the praise they get, both have discographies that are dated and in princes case not really that many great songs
@@BrendanCalliesComposer MJ is prty good
@@BrendanCalliesComposer I want what you're smoking. It has to be very strong.
EVER EVER EVER and I’m the best Michael Jackson planet on this damn planet lol
You shouldn't call Bob Dylan or Lou Reed "overrated" when they are generally not rated as top rate singers. Nobody ever said they were technically great singers. You either enjoy their style and expression or you don't.
Agree. Bob wasn't famous for his voice he was famous because of brilliantly written lyrics
Yes, some very popular ‘singers’ were technically poor. Mark Knofler comes to mind for me.
@@markshepperson3603 Even someone with a very appealing voice like Neil Young likes range and technique, it were his tone and style the ones that made him so commercially successfull, aside of his songwriting obviously.
They are not overrated whatsoever, they are poets, excellent musicians and the top tier greatest songwriters, they also have more interesting and more tonally euphonic voices than those “big voiced divas” who just warble and try to sing a million notes per syllable whilst being incapable of even writing their own songs.
@@musaalkhadim4146same for Gerry Rafferty.
LET'S AGREE TO AN EXTENT: Anthony look like he's trying out for the Gymnastics team
Go for gold Melon!! We believe in you
More like the wrestling team.
@@69XxXDqrkKnightXxX69 eh
😭😭
we love to see it
Anyone who says Prince is the 'poor man's Michael Jackson' does not appreciate his style and cultural influence. Never thought someone would say that
Prince ain’t the poor mans michael, neither vice versa, they’re great in their own right
DORAEMON!!
Lalalalalalalaa
cultural influence? yea if youre a flamer maybe lol prince hella overrated and mj the goat end of story
PABLO GATS wrrooooonng prince is the greatest performer ever. I’m a bigger fan of MJ’s music but Prince had it all.
PABLO GATS bro please stop. Atleast prince didn’t touch little kids. Goat my ass Prince is the best performer of all time
LET'S AGREE: If it wasn't for Prince and Michael Jackson being two black pop artists in the 80s, there would be little to no comparison between their music
It’s like cardi b and Nicki Minaj not being able to coexist without being constantly compared and fought over which one “wins”. Wins what?
Exactly. It's all because they're two eccentric artists with similar skin tone.
True. I think its just cause they both were black and basically created the styles of the 80s... and that a lot of artists wanted to sound like them. It would've been interesting to have seen what they would do if they collabed.
Another reason the comparison is made is because many people find that prince is a better vocalist even though he isn’t as popular, so it does make sense to bring it up.
Damon Humble...Prince also writes his own songs and play multiple instruments (he is one of the greatest guitarists of all time)
Saying kurt cobain is an overrated singer would imply that people were rating his singing in the first place.
I think he is more overrated because of the story he had, his suicide, the aesthetic boys/girls wanting to romanticize all his depression, that Kurt was a believer in astrology, he liked anime, he was "in favor" of feminism, he wore dresses, etc... Many things that nowadays are considered cool and serve to fit into today's society standars.
@@marinadiamondz He didn't like anime, he didn't believe in astrology, but you are right about being in favor of feminism, but I think why he is considered cool is because he acted like he didn't give a shit about anything and didn't want the stardom.
@@skyluke5778 well, I think that in his suicide letter he made it clear that he believed in astrology by mentioning his zodiac sign and in heart-shaped box he also says so XD. And yea, I think it has a lot to do with their alternative style since those bands certainly thought they were unique and different due to having depression and not fitting into society as their main concept.
@@marinadiamondz ok maybe I was wrong about astrology but good to know.
@@marinadiamondz Right, but my argument was mainly over the fact that he never was a great singer technically? his sound was great etc. but he isn't exactly considered an insanely talented singer, he's an insanely talented artist, iykyk
LET'S AGREE: Icejjfish is the greatest singer of all time
I like him as a dancer more tbh.
THERES SOMETHING ABOUTCHA GIIIRRRLLL
Jj got me thru highschool🙌🏾
no one has a good argument against it he simply is
@@raer5373 the man can do it all
let's argue: bob dylan is a mumble rapper
This isnt lets agree🤯
*lets agree
iwilleatyourcookies I’ve never seen them in the same room 🤔😳👀
An argument should be suggested that Subterranean Homesick Blues was an early rap song. Bob Dylan should collab with Kodak Black
Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?
Freddie Mercury doesn't have enough range? That is the most perplexing thing I've heard all day
Right? He had a little more than 3 octaves and was absolutly INCREDIBLE in lower and higher registers, its not like alot of singers who have a similar ou bigger range but doesnt maintain the glow and versitility in some parts of their range. Freddy was potent on every aspect.
@@marcelosaletti1183 his range is 4 octave
From F2-F6
@@Shicomogs i dont really take on consideration his high notes above the sixth octave bc he is barely singing them, i think f2 - a5 is better bc it represents the notes that are actually solid and well placed, and not just random screams that he made like once and happened to be on the sixth octave.
@@marcelosaletti1183 he did more notes which are better and solid
bb5 is an example
? He said not enough versatility besides his range, meaning even the dude himself conceded that Freddie has a crazy range.
Your reaction to the Prince comment is the most legit thing on the internet.
Strong agree with your reaction to whoever said Freddie Mercury was over-rated or that Prince is the poor man’s Michael Jackson. Seriously shitty takes.
People just like to be contrarian.
i saw the freddie mercury take on twitter and i was just baffled. WHAT DO YOU MEAAANNNN lol
Oh I'm gonna say something controversial as hell to get my 15 minutes of fame .
Bet you that guy only knows rhapsody
I'd agree that Mercury is overrated in the sense that he's rated as probably the best singer of all time, and while he's a fantastic singer I don't think he's the GOAT singer, but instead the GOAT performer alongside MJ. Mediocre he's not though that's for sure.
Foxglove hey mom look at me! I looked like a complete idiot in front on thousands of people!
Imagine thinking that Freddie Mercury's voice is overrated... Like WTF ? Im not even a Queen fan but there is no denying his raw talent.
Not only that, but he could sing live just as cleanly as his studio performances. I've watched so many live videos of him singing and never heard his voice waver or crack in anyway. And with his energy on-stage, that feat is damn near impossible.
Freddie Mercury can't be overrated, he can only be fairly rated as the greatest Rock singer of all time (Above the likes of Robert Plant, Roger Daltry, Mick Jagger, and even Paul McCartney who I would put at 2nd for rock vocals).
No big Queen fan, always too kitsch for me (I get it that's the point) but damn Freddie could sing and is rightfully recognised as one of the greatest rock singers of all time
Queen might be overrated but Freddie Mercury’s voice is definitely not
Pls do better research. Overrated means if people think someone is better than what they really are. It has nothing to do with popularity
It reminds me of an incident recently when I made a post on social media saying that I love a good guitar solo and someone asked me who my favorite guitarists are. I said Hendrix, Eddie Van, Angus Young, and Stevie Ray. And dude replied "Oh. You know they're all considered bottom of the barrel in terms of talent and influence."
I wanted to shoot a motherfucker.
this is the first lets argue about something being overrated that no one mentioned a beatle, i mean im glad but, im surprised
He already did a video about that
John Lennon’s voice is legendary
Yessirrrrr😭
Idk if they're truly remembered for their great vocals tbh
abigail flores they’re not but it’s so easy to say the Beatles are overrated due to their success
As for Bob Dylan, part of his contribution to the evolution of music is that he demonstrated that if the songs you write are good enough they will sound good even if you're not a technically good singer.
Fantano’s interpretation of the eugh was hilarious
I love Bob Dylan's voice. I think it's brilliant.
If MJ, Prince or Freddie don't deserve the recognition they have, who does lmao? I feel some of these people are just suburban middle class kids, or indie tryhards who praise whatever trendy Spotify artist is being promoted.
Exactly ?🤔
They probably think screaming is singing.
@@brumels1570 it is though, just a different kind.
Elvis is the KING
Maybe that's the point.
Maybe their point is that no one deserves so much wealth and coddling just because they can sing and perform.
Not sure if this is my viewpoint or not, though. But you did ask.
"Kurt Cobain had poor techniques and was all emotion'. Yes, that is the essence of punk rock (fight me about whatever genre Nirvana was)
I think it’s grunge? Whatever
@@ruxandraf140 It is famously grunge.
I agree 'Grunge' was a made word for basically rock music from Seattle and Nirvana were far more punk/hardcore than 'Grunge' whatever that was
Lee Courtney in fairness I didn’t know that, I said Punk Rock bc I forgot the word Grunge and I didn’t wanna get attacked for calling it grunge 😂
Yes they're pretty much punk. Grunge isn't a genre, it's a label given to rock music from Seattle. How come there would otherwise be any arguing on whether STP is grunge or not?
Are we ignoring Ed sheeran’s eyes in this picture, holy shit- homie can see enemies coming from every direction
Hes a derp
*every picture
Mans has a lazy eye. Why’s that funny?
That is why the British didn’t lose many they had Ed Sheeran
Keeping that eye on selenur
i refuse to believe that there are people out there who believe that Freddie, MJ and Prince are overrated.
There are many people who think like that the bigger the fandom the more critics you get cause the fandoms overrate their favourite artist way too much
@@gaming4life788 if you use fandom as a factor to criticise music then you don't understand music at all. All those artistis mentioned above have a huge fandom because they deserved. They are timeless legends and deserve have all the praise they have got.
I don't anyone truly believes it, they just say it for attention.
what was genuinely special about mj? so far to me he just seems eccentric, which got him a lot of attention, but there wasn't a lot of actual meaning in his songs that warranted all this praise i see heaped on him constantly, and he wasn't exactly skilled with lyrics either.
@@nabeelhasan8870it's just the vibe I think, I'm the same where I'm not crazy about him but he is a talented singer and if you're into his style then I could understand liking him a lot
Ed Sheeran looks like he can see the events of yesterday and tomorrow in that picture
Ilari Nieminen only one of those are Beatles songs to he doesn’t know what style to rip off next in the future...
He was in the movie Yesterday.
Some of these takes are just “I don’t like this and that makes it overrated”
Spot on
lmao exactly
I feel like that kinda sums up this whole community, “I don’t like it so it bad”
I have a personal take. There are certain bands that were catapulted into the main stream... Of which I have no examples but hear me out... There are certain bands that could have stayed on the DL and they would have done pretty okay and because they were catapulted off like one good song I believe that sometimes a certain part of these band's audiences will think that they're over rated after putting out a follow up album to all that success and it gets shit on because it's not like [Previous Album]
That's usually what 'overrated' means. When there's no real criticism to cite, there's always 'overrated': "I'm angry that it's popular, and I can't stop putting my nose in the spoiled milk"
Let’s AGREE: No one can deny the power of Adele’s Voice-Dick
I...beg your pardon?
I...... AGREE
The Only Thing Humans are equal in is Death check out 7:27 for a quality explanation
I kinda hate Adele’s music tbh I just can’t stand it it makes me cringe like she’s trying way to hard but that just my opinion no judgment to people who like her but I just can’t
@@srslydoatm9251 You didn't watch the video, did you? Lol
Elvis actually did have a fantastic falsetto. Very rare but it exists...
I saw someone list out the lowest and highest notes some singers have hit and although Elvis typically rested in one area, his range from top to bottom was shockingly wide because of that falsetto paired with his deep deep lows
Listen to jailhouse rock and unchained melody. The man could sing. Period.
Is it So Strange. Blue Moon.(Very young though) Unchained Melody.
Yikes, that Prince comment is embarrassing.
Your pfp is hauting me
love that pfp
Ikr like wtf is wrong with him? Also your pfp ruined my childhood
Yeah that was honestly a pathetically bad take
@@saraa136 Sorry to you, and everyone else about my horrifying pfp. Not really, but yeah. :)
Let's agree: everyone's opinion is overrated.
Melon like
" Chad says " Let's agree everyone's opinion is overrated" I somewhat agree how you might see that . I mean there's definitely a tendancy to go for an opinion that just has shock value in it rather than constructive analysis to bring more attention but simultaneously there's a couple of actual good ones here... that Freddy mercury one was clearly the biggest case of stupidity though'
@@brandonayong752 Oh, I mean everyone who has ever had an opinion on anything ever in the history of the world. All of them have been overrated.
except mine
facts here
Yup there we go
The most overrated singer is my neighbor who lives upstairs. She thinks that she’s Mariah Carey yet she can barely carry a note.
Carey a note?
You just don't like her because she went mainstream.
Some people can't carry a tune, but here this person can't even carry a note. I am sorry for your suffering.
Don’t worry I am joking. I am not old enough to get an apartment yet.
The trumpet fight guy would like to have a word with her
Kurt’s vocals are unmatchable. They are so personal to him and purposefully done the way they are that you need to have Kurt’s soul and artistic passion to express his lyrics. there is no faking it
Kurt Cobain’s soul and artistic passion is essentially that of a suburban high school junior who discovered weed and thinks everything he says is deep.
@@All5Horizonsthere you go dismissing art
@@SirJigglesworth *shrug* Not really. The music is perfectly fine and I get why people like it. He wasn't a bad musician. But we act like his lyrics and voice are spiritual awakenings, yet he was the weakest lyricist and vocalist of the big four grunge bands. There's nothing wrong with that, and people can still prefer Nirvana to the rest. It's just strange to me that we feel the need to pretend it's somehow something more.
@@All5Horizonsmy dude you seem like the typical no problems in my life person who can’t see or understand when deep emotions are laid out through lyrics. Smh
@@All5Horizonsshut up nerd
why are people so dead keen on a wide vocal range? i'd rather have a singer with a unique style than some generic wide range one. not saying a wide vocal range is a bad thing, but it's not a necessity for singers imo.
It's not about necessity, people bring up range because it is impressive and can sound really good if done well. When talking about vocalists range is the thing that let's you stand out. Having a high and powerful voice literally makes you stand out, it's easier to hear. I'm not even being silly here. In a crowded bar or at a concert, the singer with the higher range will be heard better than the one that sings low. There is more to it too, a good song has range in the melody, going up or down creates drama, so singers with good range can have more dramatic and emotional songs.
Of course it's not needed, I like singers who have small ranges too, it's just I don't think of them as amazing singers, I usually like them because they are great songwriters.
I think range helps with tone and versatility, and depending on the individuals it'd certainly contribute to their singing style.
Right. Look at people like Frank Sinatra, he had a range of around D2-G#4 but his voice is one of the best I've ever heard. It's not about how high or low your voice can be, it's what you can do with it.
It's not even a wide range the general population care about. It's just high notes, people don't usually care if you have a wide lower range
Range is meaningless if you aren't doing anything with it.
Lets agree: Lou Reed is a rapper.
By the way . This is from his most famous song
" But she never lost her head even when she was giving head " ....
If Em or Kanye said that they would be getting hell 😂
@Brandon Ayong Thats honestly not that shocking of a lyric by itself. You took away the Lou Reed story to it. She's a he.
@@outis439-A Yeah I know the story . And each stories of that song was well put together . However I do think he said that line especially to put some kind of humourous joke .
David Byrne would smoke Louon the mic....
His little verse in Crosseyed & Painless tho 😁
Walk in the club and flex like Lou
How can anyone say Michael Jackson or Mercury are overrated.... these people changed the world
especially khalid
@@hubertzdulski lol just saw typo. deleted
idc (and doubt very much) if michael jackson "changed the world". he has an annoying ass voice (dont get me started on those fucking screams, like stfu) fanatic fans that wont accept anything bad said against him, including him sleeping with random ass children, and is overall just a very unpleasant and obnoxious person.
I will never understand why people worship him like the second coming of christ or some shit, just because he was popular.
@@lloydb.6979 lol dis dude
No Rodrick changed the world
Loved your reply to the Prince slander! Absolutely perfect 👍 👍
i hate how everything nowadays is considered as "limited" "overrated" "basic" nothing is enough for people to be impressed smh its annoying
Kinda true
too many pretentious wannabe critics. you show them a groundbreaking and technically impressive record and they'll say its "mediocre, basic, uncreative and uninspired"
The thing is, when something is popular at the current moment people don't like it. But then when it starts to fade away and becomes a different generation, THEN people start with all the "oh they were brilliant I wish I was born back then"
There's no such thing as basic music, but there are basic uses of music elements
@@thatpinkdudefromstupidtown6040 they mean basic as in average
Freddie Mercury, Mariah Carey, Micheal Jackson? I was waiting for a dummy to say Whitney Houston so I can smash my phone against the wall. Some people just wanna be contrarian s or they just trolling.
Some people just have the audacity....
You're right - the prince guy was confirmed trolling. When the video was first released he was up and down the comments here saying that he wrote that just to get in the video and that it wasn't a real opinion. A couple others are probably trolls too.
Dont forget Adele
@@justanothertinypartofthisi4651 How is Mariah Carey overrated but Whitney Houston wasn't?
I'd say Amy Winehouse was overrated af. Can er agree on that one?
Let's argue: Anthony only shaves his head because it's easier to green-screen than a full head of hair
No , no, he's got a point.
It’s because he’s a hipster
None of theses artists and singers are overrated. I'm not fans of all of them but I recognise their immense talent. Sometimes when we are too familiar with an artist and their music is overplayed there is a backlash which is where the overrated arguments come in
The dude saying MJ is overrated also has Travis Scott as his Twitter pic 😂
Lol
If someone thinks MJ was overrated, then they don't like music
whats funny about that lol. travy is a great artist
@@soccerlegend7774 yes he is but then how u gon say MJ overrated
🤣
saying adele is nothing without her big and powerful voice is like saying mariah carey is nothing without her high range.
yeah. thats what makes them good singers.
Mariah would still be Mariah without the high notes. The woman can singnperiod not just in her whistle register
It’s like saying chocolate cake is nothing without the chocolate
Except that Mariah has the whole store and goods even if she didnt have the whistle register
I honestly find Adele kind of hyped. She's great, don't get me wrong, but when she came onto the scene it was like people hadn't heard a white girl who sounded black before (Amy Winehouse *cough). I don't think she's necessarily revolutionary or unique, she simply has a great voice and sings great songs, which is great. Sometimes, though, I feel like I hear people raising her on a pedestal like she'll be remembered as another Aretha Franklin or something.
@@sgshumblecrumb6046 She's overhyped. Need any proof, watch her bland cover of natural woman. It's very karaoke. And don't like it.
People compare Prince and Michael Jackson because they are both eccentric black musical geniuses with a high register voice. Nothing to do with their actual style.
God forbid there be two super popular eccentric black musicians. That’s too much power
There was also a sort of tension between them back in there day, wasn’t there? Like there was beef?
Mrs. Featherbottom there never was. they just loved showing off and one upping each other because they had massive respect for each other’s work. most of the “beef” was made up by fans tryna argue who’s better which is dumb. both of them are talented black kingsss
@@mrs.featherbottom5901 no, but prince beefed with rick james iirc.
methyod that would make more sense actually
Who could listen to Purple Rain and reach the conclusion that Prince can´t sing?
The Kurt Cobain thing. That's literally his style, grunge, they more dirty and gritty, etc.
He's still a crap vocalist though.
Still cant sing.... :|, rebecca black also cant sing and made hits teehee
Umm Rebecca black was a one hit wonder and millions paid to see Nirvana, So.....
@@ADunc10 he wasn't trying to be a good vocalist.
Cobain is a great singer. Watch Nirvana unplugged. His vocal performance is great in that.
In my opinion people ONLY compare MJ and Prince because they were both similar in physical appearance. Couldn’t be more different musically the only thing they share is being pop stars but for totally different reasons
the reasons were the same: they were both insanely talented and full of musicality. Not even their styles are different: they were both inspired by James Brown, Sly and the Family Stone, Little Richard. Still they were both able to create somethin unique, that's instantly recognizable.
They were both kind of feminine and gender-bendy
@@richardkovacs2006 Their styles were completely different. For one, MJ collaborated with Quincy Jones who wrote most of his iconic tracks and Quincy Jones, while a genius, had a completely different take on pop, fusing pop R&B with elements of jazz. Prince had a much wider breadth of musical proclivities and borrowed far more from new wave, rock, and funk, as well as jazz. Furthermore, Prince mixed his albums completely differently, allowing different instruments to take center stage, whereas Jones always make Michael's vocals the heart of the track. Fantano is correct that you'll never mistake Prince for MJ sonically. They were completely different.
You’re probably right, I never listened to them growing up and missed their fame years, so basically I just have their appearances and reputation to go off of, which is why I always mix the two up
I agree. They are so stylistically and sonically different and I dont think either of them took the comparisons seriously. People really compared Sign O' The Times and BAD to one another back in the day. That just does a disservice to two amazing artists. I just laugh now, but Prince and MJ had two completely different approaches to their artistry and sought to give their fans two different listening experiences.
My Therapist: Micthany Jacktano Isn’t Real, He Can’t Hurt You
Micthany Jacktano: 8:10
8:11
Luke C you were supposed to add a minute
@@dame-e-in1258 u didn't have to go there
Freddie Mercury was the complete package and then some. The guy had a great voice and knew how to use it perfectly. He is not overrated. He was just that damn good. He could sing in any genre of music. Unlike some artists who might have a good voice but don't know how to use it. Or there's some genres they just can't sing in.
Prince was a musical genius, MJ had a voice from God, Cobain’s gruff delivery kickstarted a genre, Bob Dylan is the greatest songwriter of all time, and Freddie was probably the most talented frontman of all time (Chris Cornell and Plant were just amazing as well)
Songwriter hardly, lyricist definetly
@@rubentongiani6198 difference being?
Chris cornell , prince , freddie, plant,mj are irreplaceable singers...
@@simongran5611 There's more to music than lyrics. The greatest songwriter of all time is Paul McCartney. Combination of lyrics and musicianship
You forgot the lead singer of the hollies and yes, i forgot his name.
“Prince is the poor man’s Michael Jackson”
BRUH. Prince was such a talented musician, he practically had his own genre. Look up "Minneapolis Sound." Whoever said he's a poor man's Michael Jackson is a casual.
IMO Michael is a superior technical singer but not by much. Prince had better range by a decent margin. Prince was a better instrumentalist by large margin but that's true of almost anyone compared to Prince. Michael was probably a bit better of a songwriter but at that point there are no losers.
The idea that either could be a poor man's version of the other is ridiculous.
@@Adamdidit I'm a huge MJ fan but c'mon, Prince's songwriting ability exceeds Michael's by a long shot I think. Prince was technically more talented as a musician and instrumentalist, Michael was way more talented as an overall entertainer and and just a hugggee solo icon and phenomenal talent. It's like comparing David Bowie to James Brown... One was an instrumentalist singer, one was an enigmatic entertainer.
Singing? Prince had a bigger range, while Michael was technically superior in terms of vocals and technique... I agree with you, would edge to Michael more
Or a troll that would love that reaction of yours
Great pfp
Prince trolled funk while creating what's equal to funk on his own. He topped metal, pop, psychedelic and, well, funk, and Antony Analo is zero
in some ways michael jackson was an underrated singer, particilarly in his adult years. people focused on the videos and overbown concerts etc. he always had too much going on on stage and too much pyrotechnics but if you purely analyse his vocals on record he was a great singer. very pure tone perfect for pop music
Those later years werent live vocal performances though iirc? Wasn’t his last tour without lipsynching the Bad Tour?
@@alecreyna1147 yea thats why i said "on record". he was never pure lip sync but because of the dance routines etc, I dont think he could keep the vocals going at the same time. its sad. I wish he went on jools holland or something and only danced in between the vocals. But from off the wall up to the end, people rarely mention the singing, which for the most part was fantastic.
@@Captain_Rhodes I'm with ya to the death on this
@@OakplaysCGaming965 he was much more original as an adult. as a kid he was copying other singers and was amazing at it for sure. his main mark as a vocalist, left on the history of music and influencing other singers, was as an adult.
@@OakplaysCGaming965 disagree but ok
I love all kinds of singers, especially imperfect ones but with the people who think Freddie and Mariah are overrated for example, I'd love to know who they actually do rate as worthy of praise
Freddy Mercury is not overrated. Even opera singers admit his great talent.
Overrated doesn't mean bad tho I love Pantera but they're overrated
@@heathens_swill the problem is the obsessive psychopathic fanboys
@@thebeatlesfan8552 more like the writing and lyrics were trash
@@ghostofdeath663 Yeah fam. It's coz of his obsessive fanboys who think that Freddie is an untouched vocalist who is incomparable to anyone. They make Freddie look like a god which absolutely proves why Freddie is overrated. Also the fact that how Queen fans overhype Bohemian Rhapsody like it's the greatest song ever made. Personally, apart from vocals Bohemian Rhapsody is boring. Like I don't get it why people overhype it so much, I don't find anything interesting about that song😂.
@@kushhhuuu2000 there are like hundreds of songs better written out there I just never understood the hype about it
Prince and Michael Jackson are like Yin & Yang, coexisting in the same time period but being completely distinct to each others styles.
People have to be trolling just to get on his videos, the prince take is bad
unknowning unknown The ULTIMATE contrarians
LOL Anthony's reaction to the Prince comment was EXACTLY what it sounds like when doves cry.
Let’s AGREE: those glasses are perfect for you Anthony. Lookin cuter than ever
When hasn't he looked cute????
I agree. Those are nice glasses for him.
Forehead got a nice shine too.
No sir, I think the tank top is making the glasses look better.
Looking like a bbw
I love how he just flips out fuck you when someone calls Prince a cheap MJ rip-off.
Lol ikr! He was being so civil and that one came up and he was like "...Fuck you"
It was earned
It's true, Prince is not a cheap MJ rip-off, he is however extremely overrated.
@@Cobbido no u
@@JohnsDough1918 Reported for abusive language
“Prince is a poor mans Micheal Jackson” Good Job troll, you made it.
I'm genuinely angry just reading your comment repeating it
I've been in the mood to spear people lately. Seems like a good target.
I'll say, when i became a Prince fan back in 2006-2007, people told me that all the time. "Bit like MJ but worse". Almost no one understood why i was so crazy about him. And now when he's dead, what do you know! There are Prince fans everywhere. Kinda pisses me off, but hey. Better late than never.
Never been crazy about MJ. And don't get me wrong, i like a lot of his stuff. But he wasn't a genious the way Prince was.
I love every Era of Elvis from beginning to end. Fanthony got it right, he was good when he started, but when he came back; he had matured vocally and he a powerful control of his range.
Freddie Mercury doesn't have vocal range? LOL.
I heard he has tonsil range tho
Yeah Freddie doesn’t have vocal range and I’m the biggest rockstar of all time. Who in the actual fuck would have that kind of brain to think Freddie doesn’t have vocal range? His parents must be so disappointed for giving birth to that thing
@Michael South Maybe it seemed harsh, but chill it’s just a joke. I don’t really think that his parents are disappointed, I meant it as a joke
@Michael South don’t cry
@Michael South Geez calm down, it’s a joke. I’m not stupid to think that someone’s parents are disappointed just because their kid knows nothing about music
Let’s AGREE: I am sorry for party rocking
no you're not, i can see it in your eyes. you're gonna party rock again if we let you out of prison.
FerociousPaul no, no, I need this
Party rockers in the house tonight 🔥🔥🔥
Let’s AGREE: most of the posts featured in this video do not understand what the word “overrated” means
"I dont like them so that means they are overrated
Brock Larkey Yeah well Cobains voice was also very good and unique
Overrated and Underrated are just stupid words now. They’re straight up used everywhere when people can’t think of any big words to say, or to emphasise how good stans think an artist is.
Akatsiya *_T R U E_*
Except the person that said Billie Eilish they were dead on
It’s crazy how people wanna be different so bad they convince themselves that Freddie Mercury Michael Jackson Prince and Elvis are bad singers
Absolutely correct. These kind of things are said to get attention.
i wouldn't call freddie mercury 'bad' but nah i sincerely think queen is annoying and overrated. but ive not listened to freddie mercury solo so .. maybe thats more of a diss on queen
@@grizzlixxthis is an absolutely insane take. Freddie Mercury is a technically amazing singer. They absolutely revolutionized and impacted music in a huge way. You can personally dislike their style, but their talent and impact is undeniable.
@@strider3164 to me, technical talent is only a novelty, as a regular guy who just listens to the music. Ask someone who makes it, I’m sure its far more important. The impact and influence side, generally i just think its a weak reason for highly rating music, it just feels like conceding/implying that you dont really care for the music outside of some theoretical basis. Which, as a guy who only listens to the stuff, doesnt really compel me
Elvis legitimately isn’t in the same league as those others though, in terms of singing.
With Cobain: thats literally the genre. Its grunge. Grunge is supposed to be the dirty, fuck the world kind of rock subgenre.
Yea but that don’t really make him a good singer
@@WillWright-lx4hf but if we like the music, doesn’t that mean he’s good to people that like Nirvana?
He does grunge because he sucks too much to do anything else.
Also, Just because its grunge doesn't mean the vocals have to sound like a dying lord of the rings cave troll. Eddie Vedder, Chris Cornell, and Layne Stanley are some of the best rock singers of all time and they all fall under the grunge genre will providing coherent singing.
@@Top10Dylan nah maybe he sucked at guitar but if you listen to mtv unplugged he had some great acoustic vocals
Mariah Carey actually goes pretty unappreciated for her lower range. She can transition from super deep notes to her trademark high belting seamlessly.
Can she still sing like this?
Guadalupe Picasso - I'm sure her voice has changed slightly since she is older now, but for the most part, she can still do the whistle notes and everything.
Same thing with Ariana. They try to discount her singing by saying she can only do high notes (as if those are easy to do), but ignore her many songs with perfect lower note registry. She's not Mariah level yet but she's one of the few excellent vocalists of this generation which doesn't really seem to value vocalists that much. ffs Selena gomez had a 10 year music career.
her super deep notes are not worth the mention.
like seriously, who gives a shit?
it's unappreciated because it doesn't matter. she doesn't do anything interesting with it.
William Alarie - Wow, you seem cranky.
I recommend you listen to "Vanishing".
I love how the person said that Michael Jackson's voice is annoying, but has a Travis Scott profile picture. Travis Scott is the most noisiest rapper/singer. He has the auotune toggle all the way up and distortion to the maximum.
Travis is noisy? Have u listened to XXX?
@@leochang3328 I'm not talking about xxx tho
Travis Scott plainly sucks.
@ApeMan5001 he sucks... In every possible way
😂🤣
Mike Pattons is absolutely not overrated, he's awe inspiringly creative and absurdly versatile technicaly. It's not just the range, it's the willingness to explore and use each and any vocal technique known to mankind
As a massive Michael Jackson fan, that Prince comment was cold man.
And factually incorrect. Bad take.
Prince was one of the most talented artists ever to grace pop music, he could do more than dance and sing, he played A LOT of instruments fluently n excellently for fun
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Plus, Prince has all of his production work behind the scenes are many 1980s pop/dance hits. Dude will always be more enjoyable musically and more talented to me.
M. J. has some massive hits, but I’ve never liked his music.
both are incredibly talented in their own respects.. I would argue prince was more talented as a musician and songwriter but michael jackson as a performer tops things
I agree
People like: SINGER is overrated
Anthony: Actually SINGER is pretty good
People: Yeah but I don't like it
Basically Anthony is ‘people’ on the needle drop channel and nobody has gotten that yet, well at least in some reviews
Anybody who has heard Michael Jackson's raw singing voice. Without going through any sound mixers or special microphones, just his voice straight from him, knows that man could sing. Sure he added the HEHE's and the CHAMOW all over the place, but that's what made him different. Vocally. That man could definitely sing.
Yeah, a truly obscene take. The dude sang his own harmonies. Not pitch shifting or auto-tuning, just doing multiple takes and having it layered onto the track. His range was insane. Go listen to "The Lady in My Life" and "Baby Be Mine" if there's any doubt in your mind. Or go listen to the acapella versions that people have been able to make from stripping the instrumentation out.
I swear people are just listening to these artists on their phone speakers or something.
@@TheK1ngFiasco I don't need any convincing. My go to music is usually hard rock, metal, and some blues. I'm usually Metallica Pantera, John cougar, and a bunch of classic rock. I n wouldn't call myself a fan of Michael Jackson, and I do think he was a bit of a weirdo, but credit where it's due. The man could sing
He is the best singer of all time hands down.
@@westonblanchard5404 Yeah, I dunno about all that. He was good though
@@righty-o3585 In my opinion, I should add.
i think mariah switches between vocal timbres and registers really well and with so much ease. and even with whistle tones, they’re used in the background of some tracks in clever ways. overrated, she is not.
Exactly. Her pen is unmatched too, she's a fantastic songwriter and has too many hits written by herself to be bad in any way
The Prince comment royally rubbed me the wrong way.
Kurt was never aiming to sound technically good lol he started in punk and liked it because of how free it was, and then started a whole new music genre..He did have vocal control though I think he just chose and preferred to practically scream. Also MJ was no slouch either..and he did have actual vocal talent and Prince and MJ had such different styles lol
lol what "new music genre" did Kurt Cobain start!?
Kurt was still making, at least in his mind, punk.
But he didn't invent, or start, a new musical genre.
@@terrra_2024
i mean he was heavy in pushing grunge as that generation’s rock
he didnt invent it, but saying he was not influential is, at least in my opinion, kinda dumb
@@terrra_2024 Have you heard of a little think called grunge?
@@cynicaldepression435 he's one of the founders for sure but he didnt invent it by far. matter a fact saying kurt cobain invented grunge is as stupid as saying elvis presley is the king of rock
Nirvana just mixed sonic youth and pixies
If you say Prince is a “ poor mans Michael Jackson” I’m willing to bet my life that you haven’t heard more than 5 Prince songs
3 at a push and even then take each of their biggest hits: in what world is Purple Rain similar to Billie Jean? Raspberry Beret to Thriller? This take annoyed me more than it had any right to I didn't think there could be a worse take than the Freddy one, but the internet proved me wrong
James Kilgour As a Prince stan, I found the take to be hilarious
Heard Kiss and that's it
MJ>Prince discography
Adesina Adeniran MJ had less great albums, Thriller is my top 10 of all time but consistent discography wise Prince>MJ.
I'm a pretty big Patton fan but I definitely get he's an acquired taste that could be annoying but he definitely can just traditionally sing as well. Ex: faith no more- easy and tomahawk- captain midnight
People with brains can refuse to like a certain artist's music, but they cannot refuse the talent. Mariah Carey and Freddie Mercury are far from overrated. They are appreciated as much as they deserve.
Fair. I'm not a fan of either, but they are both v good and deserve it
@@poison6084 Freddy’s songs are way better though.
Close my eyes by Mariah Carey lyrically shits on everything released from 2010 to current year
@@stargirl1613 not at all, Idk What Music you listen too. but that is wrong
They are not overrated as singer, but they are overrated as musicians.
The vast majority of these people seem to have misunderstood "overated" to mean "why do people like someone I don't"
in fact doing a video about 'overrated' singers is nothing but a cheap clickbait. Well, it's all about just fantano's opinion - based on what HE likes and doesn't like. He for sure has some narcissist traits.
@@richardkovacs2006 you have to be a troll for sure
That IS what it means though. Something being "overrated" isn't an objective fact. It's a subjective opinion.
Definition of overrate: have a higher opinion of someone or something than is deserved. That’s exactly what it means, it’s completely subjective
What do you think it means then
Bob Dylan has never been rated as a good singer, so his inclusion on any "overrated singer" list is a misunderstanding. His fans, myself included, do not listen to his albums for his vocal ability.
Same goes for Lou Reed. Who has ever rated him as a strong vocalist? No one. We listen to him for the songs. Also, his style fits his songs. They're not written to be showcase pieces for vocal or instrumental virtuosity.
Fun Fact: Dylan won three Grammys for vocal performance (Gotta Serve Somebody, Cold Irons Bound, Someday Baby), he can sing when he wants to
@@blahblah7381 he must not want to much, lol
Nashville skyline. That album shows his incredible vocals. Also his vocal experimentation is next to none. He would try so many different styles and ways of singing yet you always know its him. But I agree Dylan fans, myself included don't generally listen to his albums for the vocals. He's only the greatest songwriter ever.
His vocals are much more than just about 'range'. He's got versatility and limitless expressivity. Singers like Hank Williams, Neil Young, heck even Springsteen etc. They're still great vocalists. It's a matter of what you value as great singing.
Ed Sheeran, Bob Dylan, Billie Ellish, Lou Reed and others: I've never heard anyone go one an on about them being great singers. They are all great song writers who sing and perform their own songs.
There were two types of people in this video: those that don't pay attention to song writing, and those that listen to music on their phone's speakers. Some of those takes made me wonder if those people needed their ears checked or needed a little bouncing ball to follow along with the lyrics.
Dylan and Reed are great song writers. Sheeran and Eilish: No.
@@winterbird4447 How many songs are you familiar with from Sheeran and Ellish?
@@winterbird4447 Sheeran? He’s one of the best singer/song writers to have ever lived. Are you stupid?
Adam Levine wouldn’t be overrated if Maroon 5 stopped after releasing albums after Songs About Jane lol.
😆 "Adam, we would like your singing more if we heard less of you"
Was a great album, and it shows his vocals are good. But when they just started releasing generic stuff his singing definitely sounds more grating.
So true! I’ll never understand why they switched from a soul-infused pop rock sound that was so unique to just churning out crappy pop songs.
That is my favourite album of all time, I’m so sad they changed their style
2007 stuff is also cool, after that
Michael Jackson was UNDERRATED as a singer. His dance and videos overshadowed his raw singing talent.
Nah, his vocals are widely recognised tbh and when he sings, ppl know it’s him. But yeah, he’s not overrated either.
Correct!
MJ always got credit for his vocals
@@BRobMint literally never, people always talk about his dance moves and think he's a "quite good" singer just because they only listened to the thriller album, real fans know his range was incredibly versatile and one of the greatest, he never gets credit and most people never heard his lowest vocals like in "2000 watts" on the Invincible album... I don't take this youtuber's opinion cause I know he's a MJ hater.
@@didigreen473 I ain’t an MJ hater at all lol
I want Anthony to play bass while cal raps hot dinner at my funeral is that too much to ask
69 likes, also I agree
ikr they should make an album called rap & bass lol
Thanks for holding up Prince. Subscribed.
I think Billie Eilish is overrated and I'm a fan of her. Yes, we exist.
You just blew my mind
I didn't like half the album and it got 5 fuckin grammies . I mean lana just came out with her best album and she didn't win a single grammy .
I mean due to how repeatative other artists' music is nowdays she's really original and I don't think she's that overrated. It's probably just that some people know just a few of her songs and bad guy is really overapreciated but she as an artist isn't.
@@doiknowyou6284 still didn't deserve 5 grammys . And I don't dislike Billie , I really like the singles and features but the album doesn't do it for me . I couldn't even complete it once.
I'm not a fan of her music at all, but I'm curious on what makes her overrated?
Two singers you don’t disrespect:
1. Michael Jackson
2. Freddie Mercury
And prince
You mean, THREE. Elvis Presley should be added to the list of singers you don't disrespect.
And chris cornell
And Elvis!!! And Mariah Carey
And Tim Pitchford
Let's Agree: Ringo Starr was a god tier vocalist, making the other puny Beatles shiver in fear of his might. He may have a very limited vocal range but when you hear Ringo sing, you lose control of yourself due to the sensation it provides
actually true
His voice is just so comforting
It’s like a warm sip of PG Tips
@@connors.8618 Most English thing I've read in a while
Its like hot yorkshire with some honey and milk poured down the throat of my ears(?)
Freddie Mercury was so good at singing that actual scientists were arguing over just how good he actually was at it decades after his death, so maybe thinking he's overrated is just a matter of personality.
That literally proves nothing.
There are far better voices out there.
Listen to Peter Murphy, his songs in Bauhaus AND his solo stuff.
Incredible deep voice, godly, like no other. Makes Freddie’s voice look basic in comparison.
Then listen to Andrew Eldritch and Siouxsie Sioux.
@@TripsX I don't see what that proves either. I love those singers too but calling Freddie 'basic in comparison' is wild. Not only was he a technical marvel but he was incredibly expressive and undoubtedly the best singer Queen could have possibly had.
My jaw dropped when I saw Freddie Mercury and Michael Jackson on the thumbnail. You just can't disrespect these two icons.
cheap clickbait. obviously.
@@richardkovacs2006 how’s it bait? i mean, the video delivered.
Well... Freddie makes just about everyone's list of the greatest singers... therefore it's easier to argue he's overrated. That's not my opinion... he's the greatest singer I've ever seen live. Conversely, to argue Dylan is an overrated singer is lunacy. He's without doubt one of the worse singers I've seen live... and most know just how bad he is.
I was a bit pressed when I saw MJ, so I had to click.
i can disrespect mj for touching kids but certainly not for his talrnt
Listen to MJ sing when he was a child- your fave could NEVER.
Shout this from the rooftops.
Are you saying his adult voice is inferior?? Just wondering
Chris Taylor not at all. his adolescent voice beats any kid I've heard though 😂
@@bvad7884 but don’t discredit his adult vocals tho he always had a beautiful voice
Analeza One Oh I'd never
Bob Dylan isn’t overrated at all. I’m not saying he’s a good singer, I’m saying very few people think he’s a good singer
Good point
Lou Reed too. I feel like a lot of people on this thread didn't understand what overrated meant lol
I think there’s times when his singing sounds great actually, but mostly his music is more about the writing. Although even then his version’s of his songs I like most still cause of the expression in his singing.
@@travis_redfern6771 The one time I saw Dylan, he was opening for Phil Lesh, and I guess I lucked out because having a short set meant he could really put his all into it, and he honestly sang surprisingly well, and was totally not phoning-it-in like some folks have described. He CAN do it when he cares, but that's the thing.
I heard this hipster on the subway singing Dylan on the subway, with an affected Dylan-accent, and about 15% more conventional vocal technique, and the songs totally came alive. I could see all the images in my head, which I hardly ever get from Dylan songs themselves.
It’s almost like he intentionally butchered his songs cause he was shy or just a jerk.
When asked if his song "The Original Wrapper" was a rap, Lou Reed replied "when you have a 3 - note range, every song's a rap." RIP miss you Lou.