What Makes The GameCube Controller Unique? - WMGU - BeyondPolygons
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- Today we're reviewing a controller? The GameCube Controller!
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Here's something else I'd like to bring up: When a person new to a game is learning the controls, how often do they have to look at the controller? With the Gamecube, people who were learning the controls can associate the shapes with the buttons a lot faster. I'm not a big playstation gamer so I have a hard time remembering where the buttons are when I play a playstation occasionally. With the gamecube controller, even if I were unfamiliar with it, the shape of the button on the screen would give me quick and easy information about what it's shaped like and where it is.
It's not a big thing. Buttons aren't that hard to memorize, but it's something I always liked.
The fact that you can use the GC controller on 4 different console generations (GC, Wii, WiiU, Switch) is mind blowing.
4:15 "NX" I smiled :)
Oh god, the time when the Nintendo Switch was still denominated "NX"... these were good times. And time passed out so quckly since then that I feel like it was yesterday.
They need a new GameCube controller with a better d-pad, two Z buttons, and a smoother C-stick.
Also a menu and select button, and maybe a power button.
Some Gamecube controllers do have two Z buttons, but they're probably not official. I have one like that, the one on the left side is called the M button.
Madcatz controller?
Cof Cof ...Hori Battle Pad... Cof Cof
RIP L & R button though.
other companies button layouts were in the shape of an "X" so nintendo goes ahead and makes theirs in the shape of a "Y" i love this company
The GameCube controller is still one of my favorite controllers of the history of videogames. This video is perfect for explaining why it was so great so thanks for that. (Now if no one believes me I can just send them this video instead of rambling).
I always found the Gamecube controller to be really crappy in shooters but the thought of playing F-Zero GX with a PS2 controller is pretty horrifying to say the least.
It's a solid controller no doubt, better than the N64 and the Wii/Wii U controllers. and that thing never breaks. You can throw it off a cliff and it wouldn't break.
Agreed. Playing shooters with it isn't the best.
My GameCube controllers kept breaking... well, specifically the analogue stick. It'd become off-center after awhile then simply stop being precise at all. I only have 1 GC controller that still works.
my gamecube controllers rumble motors were broken from so much donkey Kong down+B
Well, the only decent controller for shooters is a mouse and keyboard.
Not every controller is unacceptable for playing shooters. The gc controller is however.
this. 100% this is why it's the best controller. period.
And here, we have the nostalgic idiot. They have evolved to lose all ability to be reasonable. Quite a beautiful creature, they are.
clearly someone's new to gaming. sorry sweety, there's no touch screen
The undertale/ cancer filled Icon also tells me that Nintendo can't make games. /s
Wouldn't be good for a fightstick smashed box lmfao
CRANTIME it's not a matter of opinion, it's not the best controller. There is no best.
2019 and.....the GameCube controller is still here! :D
Hell yeah, I got 4 of them, 2 Silver and 2 Sm4sh White...
Also, about those white ones, I heard that those are supposed to be rare, due to them being Japan exclusive, but actually, I can't seem to find any black controllers anywhere! I wonder why...
Easily one of the most underrated channels I've ever seen. Can't wait to see you blow up
same
*4 years later* He still hasn't but one day
This man's over here talking about how great the ergonomics on this thing are while the melee scenes trying to fix hand problems with the boXX, granted I still use one, but I think what made it stick was muscle memory over ergonomics. That's just my 2 cents though.
Having one large central button with orbital buttons for the thumb to roll onto is such a brilliant idea I can't believe it stuck
I would like it a lot more if it wasn't for the uncomfortable d-pad, the imprecise c-stick, and the ugly Z button. But yea, s'pretty good
That probably why most games didn't try using them
Well yeah, but if they're gonna bring back a similar design for the NX or something I'd like to see these elements improved.
King Harkinian I agree. This is my favorite controller, but there is still plenty to improve on
if you don't get used to them they will feel bad, i honestly find it pretty easy to control de C-Stick and the D-Pad
King Harkinian search for pad with best dpad for fighting games on pc, all roads lead heretyków and u tell me its nad dpad too :(...
GC controller is cool and all, but I'm wondering if their was any way to make it better. I would make a bigger "nub" for the C Stick, replace the D Pad with the one on the 3DS, remove the Z Button and add L and R 1 buttons. Also a home button and a select button. The new GC controller would have the battery life of the Wii U Pro Controller and would be wireless aswell, or have a USB wire included to be plugged into the console for better control. For a finishing touch, I would also add a small memory card inside the controller to save info on it (Such as custom control settings for Smash so you don't have to re enter them of when you go to a tournament/ friends house) It would basically be a combo of the GC and Wii U Pro Controllers, taking the best aspects of them and making the ultimate controller to play Nintendo games.
+Fisherman 765 Controller should be wired to reduce lag, wireless is for casual scrubs
Yeah plus with wired you don't have to ever charge your controller :D That is what always breaks the immersion for me whenever I play a game...
Found you again, my dude.
Nintendo needs to hire you! Good sir!
TheRedCap That would be awesome!
I can't believe you didn't bring up the 8 directional grooves in the analogue and C-sticks and how they help improve controlling 2D games, or even in inputting "true" directions in 3D games...... *Or* about how the Analogue stick has those little ridges to keep your thumb from sliding off
Isn't the position of the joysticks of Nintendo Switch similar to the Game Cube?
I mean, the left one on top of the "cross", and the right one under the ABXY buttons?
"A is the most common jump button" Not if you play smash! ;)
Technically you can customize your controls...
"most common"
Well, A is still probably the most commonly used button in Smash
"With the NX on the horizon" haha, I love old videos
I personally loved its design. It fit perfectly in my hands and had that natural feeling.
I've always thought the Gamecube had the best controller. In retrospect, it's like the controller had the same improvement of quality and smoothness that the games did once they mastered 3D gaming by the end of the N64 era. I don't think any gaming system I've played ever felt like such an immediate improvement to its predecessor to me (and I say that as a hardcore N64 fan). Though I guess it helps that nothing since then has come close to having such high quality, new titles in its first couple of months.
To be honest the Dual Shock one is pretty much with us today and is older...
Dualshock is seriously one of the best controllers ever made. Its design is so good it eventually was copied by both Xbox and Nintendo with the Pro Controllers.
I completely agree! PS2 controller will always be my favorite controller! Wish I could use it for smash! All Playstation controllers are good, I imagine so, but PS2 for the sole fact that it was my only Playstation controller!
+minecraft faggot1337 Good to know! lol, but the Ps2 controller was the bomb diggity!
Ew...
I have trouble with the stick layout of a dualshock, there are good for fps games, but i would prefer a xbox/gamecube controller layout for every type of games.
Imagine a GC controller with a proper right stick, 3DS D-pad, and Xbox triggers, but with the GC "click". Oh, and Select, Capture, and System Menu (Home, Xbox, PS) Buttons. Now cut out the center and make it into Joycons.
Nintendo plz.
DarkLink1996 ok I was agreeing with you until the Xbox controllers the i completely disagreed.
I really disagree about how the Gamecube controller it's perfect for every videogame. The whole thing it's very specifically designed for it's own games, so in the end everything else feels weird on it. Tradicional fighting games, 2d platforms, convencional fps, Hack & Slash...all these genres that the system lacked. All it's about how weird and non-standard the thing is. The tiny right stick, the even smaller d pad, that bizarre button location, not having two back buttons. It makes the controller feel dated and niche while Sony and Xbox designs have been pretty much the standard for every generation.
This video sums up exactly why the Gamecube controller is my favorite controller ever.
I think a lot of players would use other controllers in smash for wii u if there was a single wired alternative.
If the GameCube had bumpers on both sides it would be perfect.
Snes controller is the best for 2d games. gc controller is the best for 3D games (though it could use more buttons) . The switch pro is in the middle
It's bad for twin stick shooters, but great for everything else.
Fzero GX - this would unplayable without the precise analog triggers
Soul Calibur 2 - button layout makes multibutton presses easy
Melee - C stick perfect for quick smash/Aerials, low resistance left stick for fast movements, button placement for fast Aerials.
Really the only things I would change are a second Z button, bigger d-pad, and slightly bigger rounded c stick.
It is really comfortable in your hands which is weird because it quite possibly has the worst D pad ever made, and it's a chore to quickly tap the L and R buttons.
I hate to be that guy, but the face button layout never jived with me. I can see where it has objective advantages to certain specific titles (and, funny enough, when my Pro Controller broke I used a Powera Gamecube controller to finish my playthrough of Dark Souls Remastered, and i was surprised how intuitive it felt, and it's probably the only video game I've evern enjoyed using the controller on), but in terms of general use, and even most of those titles people conventionally use the gamecube controller for, was always just alien to me. Trying to press literally any button other than A took more thumb travel than I would've liked to press with the base of my thumb, and the buttons were so skinny that rolling my thumb to press them just felt uncomfortable to perform. Sure, the A button was okay, a comically big button you can smash to your hearts content. But even in games that used the A button dominantly, anytime I had to use B, X, or Y it was bothersome and took me out of the game. I know most people's complaints with the controller come from a production standpoint: The spongy buttons, the weird C-Stick, and only one, crappy Z button. And those issues are more or less resolved with future productions or 3rd party recreations, but none of those things ever bothered me nearly as much as the basic design around the face buttons, which ruin the overall experience for me despite some very interesting decisions they made in other parts of the controller, like joystick grooves. It feels good to hold, until I have to actually play with it.
TL;DR The GC Controller is not my cup of tea, due to my personal preference to the cross button layout.
Thank you for coming to my TEDx talk
I found this controller to be pretty comfortable, a good controller to compliment a good console.
I prefer the button cross even when playing Melee since there’s no huge a button in the center
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that statement really dates this video
I never used a gamecube controller but I can easily see what makes it great. The A being the jump button requires it to be easy to reach at all times. Most cross layout buttons only have access to two easy access adjacent buttons as going across the two adjacent buttons to reach the opposite button is awkward. I've certainly felt awkward doing that with some games like the old control scheme of megaman x games that had the special weapon button opposite of the jump button. Only when I played megaman zero did I find an alternate control scheme using shoulder buttons but that removed the ability to easily switch special weapons.
Not every Nintendo fan loves the GC controller that much. Remember, the most successful Nintendo Console is the DS, so ABXY (Cross), +Pad, LR and Start/Select is still achetype of all modern Nintendo consoles, because the layouts of the Wii (Pro) 3DS, Wii U and (more or less) Switch are based on it. The DS layout itself is based on the GBA, which is based on both GB and SNES.
Hey! What game is that at 2:49? I swear I played it when I was younger but I don't remember it.
Skies of Arcadia, originally for Dreamcast, re-released on Gamecube
Thank you so much! :)
I use classic controller as "N64/NGC controller Layout".
B -> A
Y-> B
and A and X are for jump
The second I see someone successfully implement a motion feature in the GC controller, like for Wii/Wii U games. I'm gonna buy/mod that so that I can play Wii/Wii U games with my GC controller
I'd say the dpad, c-stick, and lack of a second bumper all have their own problems that limit what kinds of control mappings can be used in a game effectively
0:26 Or gold, emerald green, emerald blue, white, orange, platinum, transparent, Panasonic, Tales of Symphonia, Resident Evil, Char, Hanshin Tigers, or chainsaw!
good luck if you're playing any traditional fighter with that. that's really the only place it suffers aside from RTSs like all controllers do.
Because of nostalgia. Period
The gamecube controller is majestic
Honestly, i just want the NX to have a 2nd Gamecube controller. It's been long enough Nintendo, and it's probably inevitable that they're gonna have another "gimmick" controller, but at least instead of the classic controllers or pro controller or whatever you call them, have a remodeled Gamecube controller. Basically, an Gamecube controller with a real dpad, a L1 and R1 instead of just the Z button, a real second stick. Basically, an xbox 1 controller with the Gamecube face buttons and the gamecube syle of triggers where it's both analogue and digital.
-melee HD pls-
I'm trying to get into melee and that yellow c-stick would be way more helpful if it wasn't so far from the buttons to jump
You can use a Claw grip, in which you use your index finger for X/Y and your thumb for the C-Stick. With this you have immediate acces to the C-Stick after jumping
I tried this but I can't short hop this way... Advice?
Alex Jay coincidentally, I also can’t use claw because of this. It probably just comes down to practice
What makes the GameCube Controller Unique?
It was specifically designed for Luigi's Mansion and Smash Bros Melee.
So Throw the money at da screen.
It's good.
Feeling the Z and X button was weird to me, sadly it was the jump button, so I changed it to the L trigger
you can't really say it had great ergonomics and show melee in the same video. there's a reason why melee is the only fighting game where ALOT of its pro and aspiring pro players all report that they're hands hurt after playing high levels of smash. some even have carpal tunnel because of it. I myself feel my hand getting stiff after my daily tech practices. the controller simply isn't optimized well for specifically high level melee (which to be honest is the reason why most of us play it). I quit playing melee out of fear of developing carpal tunnel, but with the development of the smash box (which is wayyy better designed for smash) I feel that I might get back into the local scene if it's accepted. if it's deemed illegal I'll still be content with doing the usual friendly at locals.
Leffen lived with FGC people and he said he knew people with hand issues who played Street Fighter. The only reason it's not nearly as big of an issue is because Street Fighter is a lower APM game. Also, the Smash Box is designed like a keyboard... you know... the original thing to give people carpal tunnel, including me. It all comes down to people not taking proper breaks, not doing hand stretches and having scrubby nutritional and workout habits. There's actually no evidence of the Smash Box being better for hands at all. In fact it's a higher APM controller and the thing that causes carpal tunnel is repeated movements. The reason some people who have hand problems report less pain is because they aren't doing the motions that caused their original injury. Over time they will develop new injuries that cause pain in new areas if they commit the same mistakes that caused their original injuries. I'm actually in a reverse situation of most people who play Melee. I use a keyboard for work and home purposes so it hurts for me to type or use fight sticks. I can play Melee with no pain at all with a Gamecube controller though. I try to take good care of my hands now though so that I don't repeat the mistakes I did with keyboards.
The only problems with it are The lack of l3 and r3 buttons and an another z button. Without them, Grand theft auto would never come to gamecube.
I do love the GameCube controller. But i feel the Wii Remote and the Wii U GamePad are good too. They get a bit to much hate. As a guy that first got into gaming with the GameCube i have made respect for it's controller. I finally started making LP's. And i'm playing an old favorite. It's a GameCube game i love. It's a game i feel is underrated.
cartergamegeek Not only are you advertising your channel on other people's videos, you're doing so with clickbait. You're the bottom of the barrel I had never never seen before.
My only gripe with the gamecube controller is that it doesn't have two Z buttons and that the D-pad is just bad.
2:42 Not sure most used buttons in melee is A and B. It's really L and R tbh.
play melee with all of crazy techniques and tell me if it's still a good controller.
Can you please explain to me how the second analog stick was groundbreaking? It had already existed before the gamecube did.
That was poor wording on my part:
I meant to say the idea of a second analog stick along with triggers were groundbreaking period. Not that it started on the GameCube. Ergo why first person shooters on consoles became a new trend at the time (And totally still is a big market)
4:42 - Wii Remote gameplay
:P
My favorite controller, also my favorite console.
If the smash community loves this so much, why are they always trying to mash the analog stick to death? I was at a competition and the they were smashing the controllers up and down. When I used one of them to play Air Ride the stick didn't snap into place.
Oh boy this guy said NX
NX? I think you mean switch? Also I only use Wii u pro bacauae it's the only comfortable controller ever!
Yo tengo 3 controles de gamecube 😎
ruben zuñiga I have 3 GameCube controllers.
Para jugar Smash Bros en GC Wii y Wii u
Si y wii mote😂
Yo tengo dos controles de gamecube. Una violeta y una platinum
I just got it with him a flash one will not the exact GameCube is obviously a third party one but anyway I've still got one right and I've used it before right and obviously I just started playing double - it works fine that somebody games that I have on dolphin they work fine other games are obviously not on the game cuprite I have no idea how to configure it I got it because we're obviously I wanted to use it playing Multiverse right
And yes it works on switch too
What makes PvZ unique? well, after SSSeptember is done.
I prefer the Wiimote and nunchuck for Smash Brawl and 4
HOW?! It gives you less buttons, it feels weirder. Not saying I hate the Wiimote + Nunchuck. But they AREN'T great for Brawl or Smash 4.
The buttons are all different sizes and it really fucks me up.
Plus, why only one shoulder button?
Heck no all though i love wii the nunchuck was uncomftorble movieing i mean me as a 13 yesr old i kinda have big hands so i prefer gc controller just cuase the feel
Is it really that good? Never used one before
Oh man, once you felt grace and beauty in your hands, you can never go back to the others.
Galaxian Gamer it's amazing well the old one of u buy a new one they are mostly too bulky
It was the best of it's time and still has a lot to offer. The PS4 controller has a better scult for my hands but I prefer the Gamecube button layout still.
Galaxian Gamer
It's ok. I prefer the switch.
whats the game at 2:51
Benderman 115 F-Zero GX
Anyone know what the game at 2:50 is?
Skies of Arcadia
Thanks man
I even played CSGO with a gamecube controller lmao.
😂😂😂 NX, who watched this video after the launch of the switch
nothing was said in this video
Its great for wrestling games
Gates. Its just the gates.
The chroma keying in this video is actually so bad.
More like Smashtember
It did last
add another Z button,add a select button and its the perfect controller.
Emmanuel Mondesir switch the left analog with the d pad?? ARE YOU MAD? That would be AWFUL
i edited that out but the d-pads being that low isnt good for traditional fighting games
Best controller ever!!!!
Well the controller still is gonna be use in ssbu
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to me the NGC controller was the WORST controller that Nintendo ever invented, it feels so loose and awkward to use
Cycrisis Spade how old are you?
Worst? I'm not even going to take you seriously.
Ok don't, I don't really care
I feel like gamecube controllers are good for casual games, but when it comes to competitive games that require a lot of attention to each of their buttons, a dualshock would be better.
i always do worse using one
I 100% hate the game cube controller button layout to the point where I will only play the system via emulation via an xbox controller.
the game cube controller can be perfect for some game but not every kind of games,,,
2D games using the D pad for exemple,, are not really good with a gc controller,,, cause the D pad of the gc controller is too small and its location isn't greant too,,
the gc controller is one of the worst controller ever for fighting games especially,, except the d-pad problem,, the button layout isn't good for fighting games,, go play street fighter or mortal combat with a gc controller,, it's awful
i lik wii controller more
Wii Pro Controller? If you mean a regular Wiimote. Then, you are a filthy casual. But if you mean, Wii U Pro Controller, then I understand.
KingSkyLord damn somebody doesn't like opinions
I hate this controller, this video is just for me.
I really don't like the button layout, and triggers on the GC controller.
on a cross shape design, all buttons are easily accessed from one another, and they're all close enough together for quick and precise motions. the triggers on the GC gamepad just feel wrong. as I hold the controller naturally, the tips of my fingers get pressed against edge the inner dip on each side. and the last knuckle on my fingers are holding it down, which is very uncomfortable. I'm also very glad that controllers instantly moved away from the tiny C-nub. that thing is so gripless that it's pretty much useless when you really count on it. there needs to be an official set of guidelines on what you can use in smash. As in, a more lenient one. Smash box? perfectly okay. Turbo buttons? No. Personally, I want to see a specialized controller with digital triggers that don't kill your fingers, a cross shape layout of the buttons, and four buttons instead of the c-stick. that would make smash so much easier to control. perhaps this legendary controller could come with software to translate button input, but that might add a bit of lag to it.
the switch Pro controller seems the best way to go for now with smash, I'm loving using it with dolphin.
Functions aside I think the GameCube controller is one of the worst looking controllers out there
I like the Wii U game pad more than the GameCube controller. FIGHT ME
Unique yes but most other consoles have better controllers now
Actually PS controller is pretty much the perfect controller. Even smash would be played better with it.
No
No. Have tried. Awkward. comin from someone who uses CCP.
Am I the only one who feels that the GameCube controller is overrated,I feel like the wii u pro controller is better
I used to think the same thing.
However, once I started playing Melee and actually became accustomed to the GameCube controller, I found that I like it far more than I ever liked the Wii/U pro controller.
The controller is amazing i personly like it alot
Casual alert
Honestly, this video doesn't really point out all the flaws of the gamecube controller. The D-pad placement is uncomfortable, the grips means gripping the thing is awkward as your fingers wrap around, and the C-stick sucks for anything that isn't smash. However, for smash, and a couple other games designed around the controller, there's a lot to like. It's basically product of it's era, nothing wrong with that.
DERP for smash, it's perfect, for anything else... I would prefer something else.
Terrible controller
Pls stop with the brawl it hurts my elitist melee eyes
dutch scorpion
Good
go blind then
The Gamecube controller is an abomination. Shooters felt awful with the c-stick, most fighting games felt awkward at best with the tiny d-pad and button placement.