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Glad toby fox did this, in a game series notorious for self-awareness about being a video game, you can't remove a technique you can SPAM on a boss called SPAMton.
oh my god, [[BIG SHOT]] strat is in shambles, this is so cool that he left it in the game but punish you in another way lol, makes sense as you're [[Spamming Big Shots]].
I can't wait for Toby to employ this same risk & reward strategy for the F1 secret, and make it so that if you use F1 too much, Spamton scams you IRL and takes 1,000 KROMER from you I like it when gaming exploits are fixed in funny ways like this, Toby made a great decision here
I always love when devs take notice of the playerbase breaking the game and go "lol that's cool let's do something special with that it's a feature now"
Gotta love Toby's innovation when it comes to these exploits. Instead of patching them out of the game, he somehow managed to punish players that abuse it.
Wow, most people would just fix the exploit, I would have made it an easter egg for buying everything in Spamton's shop or something, but this is just great.
Hmm, i wonder if they added something to hidden Jevil boss for him to also get mad if you exploit something? I sure hope they add rage mode to my favourite boss...
And here we have the rare but elusive "let's make that glitch a feature" developer. Watch as they implement new ideas rather than squandering an interesting idea for those who know about it, making it both fun for the user and those who learn about it.
Okay, this is hilarious. Oh no he's mad. I'm actually more excited that he fixed the fight against the DJs though - their attacks went on for something like an entire minute for one turn for me, which felt like overkill.
Based on some ch2 equipment it sound like grazing attacks reduces the length of the enemies' turn, which might be why I didn't really notice their turns being super long
@@Necroskull388 Right? It kept getting longer and longer, and I wasn't sure if there was something wrong or if it was intended and I had to do something to stop it or what.
@@abra_escaped Huh, maybe. I don't remember what armor everyone was wearing for that fight, but it's possible that my equipment could have made a difference.
Quite a lot of people when someone uses a glitch in their game to make it easier: It's patch time! Toby Fox when someone uses a glitch in their game to make it easier: We gonna be doing the funny!!
I wish I knew that the "Press [F1] for help" worked outside of Spamton's first battle. Would have saved me a lot of my sanity during the 1v1 against Spamton NEO.
this is very high iq game design. do not, do NOT "patch" unintended fun, simply incorporate it. fun is fun and fun sells games and keeps fans. its also just nice. :)
@@c1oudsky there are two shoot buttons. if programmed as "while holding shoot: increment charge; while not holding shoot, reset charge" *and* "release shoot: shoot based on current charge" then it can happen based on the game engine it could be more intuitive to make it like that than otherwise
Everyone else: *congratulating Toby on making a clever way to “fix” the exploit* Me, who didn’t know Spamton’s F1 line actually meant anything: “…” ;-;
I beat him normally because the first time I didn't know that existed then later I found out and got to his fight again just to see if it worked and then beat him using it and since I'm using a controller it is kinda a pain holding enter while trying to press the buttons on my controller so next time I wanna fight him again imma just keep doing it the normal way.
Imagine if the people running SMM2 noticed you were exploiting tons of glitches and bugs, and then instead of patching them they decided to go like "okay you're only getting troll levels now LOL" still I like that
there's this one from a slenderman game where slendy just goes "not even a glitch from this game can save you from me" i heard some people wet their pants
Ok mr. fox....... you win this time, but know that i still remember that artifact you stole from me 5 years ago and I. WILL. HAVE. MY. *REVENGEEEEEEE.*
@@Kaleidio He literally made it a feature by adding a button to make it easier to abuse. I haven't played this fight yet, so i can't say how difficult/easy was to do this in the previous version, but i don't think he expected this to happen since it breaks so much the dynamics of the battle (a lot of his attack patterns gets utterly destroyed if you just spam BIG SHOTS. )
@@saul2416 this is what I thought too. To think most people think it's a bug is kinda illogical. I'm a programmer myself, I cannot see how a seperate button would make a charge up timer behave in such a way
![Deltarune: Triple Enraged Spamton NEO No Hit No Right Button [TAS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VrI16FVB9QY/mqdefault.jpg)
_"An exploit? Sure I can fix it."_
_".. but what if it was a _*_feature?"_*
- toby falco
I thought Falco turned into [frozen chicken]...
Oh im early to your comment, just a warning, (if you've come to my channel to complain about my comments, don't, there's no bot i just have a lot of free time and am very stupid) -Pixelcraftian, 2021
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nah the just put magic glass over it
@@RandomClems By a [side chick]...
Honestly, turning a glitch into a risk-reward playstyle seems totally on-brand for Toby.
This is why I love Toby
He looks at a big bug/oversight
And says
“Butwhatifitwasafeature”
Tf2 did this to wich is cool
Basically demoknight in a nutshell
Glad toby fox did this, in a game series notorious for self-awareness about being a video game, you can't remove a technique you can SPAM on a boss called SPAMton.
This goes even deeper: you SPAM a TON of BIG SHOTS at a boss called Spamton, infamous for wanting to make you a [BIG SHOT]
@@llDbGll Yeah this unintentional feature seems more planned out than any I've ever seen before
oh my god, [[BIG SHOT]] strat is in shambles, this is so cool that he left it in the game but punish you in another way lol, makes sense as you're [[Spamming Big Shots]].
@UC6hJe1eaM9Z3CLpljAF0vzg jesus i already got linked to this video 30 times stop it
[BIG SHOT] IS SUPPOSED TO BE SPECIAL! YOU'RE MAKING ME [Livid].
[BIG SHOT]? more like [BIG SHIT]
Unacceptable
@Suddenly [Hyperlink blocked]
"its not a glitch its a feature" [moment]
Minecraft too lmao
super mario 64 is my favorite for this
It was a glitch, now it's a feature
He turned the glitch into a feature
@obama why do I feel like your a bot
Obama does not have time to care for you to wonder if he is a bot or not
Is that what programmers usually do, right?
Spamton getting miffed over being spammed by big shots is definitely up there in terms of the hilarious meta shitposting by Toby over the years
I love that instead of just fixing it, he hardcodes it and allows players to use it nerfing it a bit
Is it really nerfing it if you're good enough?
I can't wait for Toby to employ this same risk & reward strategy for the F1 secret, and make it so that if you use F1 too much, Spamton scams you IRL and takes 1,000 KROMER from you
I like it when gaming exploits are fixed in funny ways like this, Toby made a great decision here
i was about to say "Why are you not top comment" and then realized you posted 7ish minutes ago
how can you use F1 too much if it only works once per battle
i love it when devs build off of cool glitches instead of just outright removing them
@@c1oudsky You can use it again if you press Alt+F4.
@@elias.t comedy achieved 👏
I always love when devs take notice of the playerbase breaking the game and go "lol that's cool let's do something special with that it's a feature now"
Gotta love Toby's innovation when it comes to these exploits. Instead of patching them out of the game, he somehow managed to punish players that abuse it.
SO THATS WHY I KEPT DYING!
"i know what we're going to do today!"
*when* my [f1] key *is* the [sleep] key
Oh so what you’re saying is it’s STILL A VALID STRAT FOR NOHITS
The glitch is still helpful for speedrunners. You just gotta watch out now.
*feature
It was fun while it lasted
*Betty transformation flashbacks*
Nah, it's even more fun now.
It's a full on proper mechanic with Risk/Reward elements instead of a simple exploit.
genius game design.Ilove how some glitches are left there for people do speedruns or used in a different way
Toby is a genius
Instead of patching it, he makes it a feature in-game
Wow, most people would just fix the exploit, I would have made it an easter egg for buying everything in Spamton's shop or something, but this is just great.
Now listen here you little [Hyperlink blocked]! You can't just go [to any local 5 star quality restaurant] spamming [BIG SHOT] like that!
I thought his whole this was about loving "Big Shots" lmao
Imagine finding a way to make a glitch into a mechanic. Toby really said "its not a bug, its a feature"
As I said in the other video just a few minures ago:
Why break the fun when you can make it fun, funnier, yet funnier
THIS is how you fix an error in a game
Make it a feature
Toby: yeah you can spam big shot
But so can the boss
Spamton is basically like: If your gonna start [cheating] then I will too.
I dunno i kinda find it hard to use it. Pressing enter and z makes is too hard for me.
spamton: _IM THE SPAM NOT YOU_
I guess you can say there is only one real [[BIG SHOT]] around here
Spamton is just jealous Kris has more big shots than him
This is hilarious but at the same time this is sooooo Toby lol
toby basically gave the boss a buff instead of fixing it lol
that actually seems very fair ngl
I hate it when my enemy gets angry at me for spamming [[BIG SHOT]] and decides to honk at me so his attack increases...
Most Devs: Wow what an oversight
Toby: fuk u
He actually did it...he actually made the patch note funny
I love Toby Fox so much for this
"no big shot me Angy"
Toby pulled a Mojang move
They allowed spam in spamton, beutiful
“You wanna win using glitches, bet. I’ll just make it harder”
I didn't even know you COULD do that!
Wait a fucking second you can do multiple big shots?!?!
GOD
DAMNIT
THATS ENOUGH YOU [little sponge]. I'M THE ONLY BIG SHOT HERE.
The god of sleep
Haha i actually had trouble with spamton and i didnt know about this bug but i knew about the F1 working and it won me the battle
Welp if you makes a god mad, he will [hyperlink block] you
WAS THAT A- OH [[$!$!]] NO THAT’S TOO MANY [[Big Shot(s)]]!!
I did wonder, we know the glitch was left in intentionally, even day one, there was an internal counter for how many times you've used BIG SHOT
fairly sure the counter was patched in in 1.05 (and this adjustment patched in 1.06)
Why patch a Bug when you can simply punish the player for using it thus creating alternative play styles for a boss.
And just like that, my respect for Toby has skyrocketed..
phew i defeated him yesterday
so I didnt get affected by the patch
Wait, Toby Found it...
YOU CANT JUST [SPAM] AGAINST SPAMTON G. SPAMTON! *que creepy laugh*
I'm not PC god so I always thought f1 immediately closed the tab
Hmm, i wonder if they added something to hidden Jevil boss for him to also get mad if you exploit something? I sure hope they add rage mode to my favourite boss...
There wasn't really any exploits for jevil
@@mao2037 oof well sad...
@@mao2037
There's corner strat for his spade circle, also I suppose technically referencing a effect sheet for pirouette.
Why remove functionality instead of making it balanced, eh? :v
BRO YOUR BEING WAY TO [BIG] OF A [SHOT]
It's not a glitch, it's a feature!
All I’m wondering is if we could do this in controller
And here we have the rare but elusive "let's make that glitch a feature" developer. Watch as they implement new ideas rather than squandering an interesting idea for those who know about it, making it both fun for the user and those who learn about it.
Wait i was wondering why is kris not on the ride like on my run?
[BIG SHOTS]
A REAL [[BIG SHOT]] WOULD JUST DODGE IT, RIGHT?????
you know btw, you werent the first to figure it out
Woah and that remains as a speedrunner thing since new players dont know how to practice this
Do you [[dare cheating]] in front of [[a god]]?
how do people even do that lol
Hold Enter to charge, and spam fire with Z
Soo, what is that item that wasn't properly appearing in the light world?
Is this only in snowgrave route?
😠GOD FUCKING IT!!😆
Press f1 for [hyperlink blocked]
Why the hell remove it? When you can improve it
WAIT STOP EVERYTHING
KRIS
GET THE RALSEI
so many ways to think about what i said one kris is the car and gose up to ralsei and hugs two kris in car and picks up ralsei
I actually like this a lot. Means that if you're gonna spam the BIG SHOT, you'd best be going for a zero hit run.
If you wanna be a big shot you gotta be a [BIG SHOT]
@@XenobladeNerd
A man of the [Pipis] even.
Merg going to do it
@@GumbaverianX He did.
@@dead_max9599 I saw it lol
Okay, this is hilarious. Oh no he's mad.
I'm actually more excited that he fixed the fight against the DJs though - their attacks went on for something like an entire minute for one turn for me, which felt like overkill.
Yeah, I was sitting there dodging and wondering if there was something I needed to do to break out of their turn
Based on some ch2 equipment it sound like grazing attacks reduces the length of the enemies' turn, which might be why I didn't really notice their turns being super long
@@Necroskull388 Right? It kept getting longer and longer, and I wasn't sure if there was something wrong or if it was intended and I had to do something to stop it or what.
@@abra_escaped Huh, maybe. I don't remember what armor everyone was wearing for that fight, but it's possible that my equipment could have made a difference.
I figured it was supposed to get uncomfortably longer as the battle went on to stress the need for someone to ACT now before it gets really bad
the fact that he programmed him to visibly get mad, too
it is like
HEY!I AM THE ONE THAT HAS TON OF SPAM!
NOT YOU!
*malicious train horns*
This seems like a great solution. Especially for speed runners or people trying to no hit.
Merg just uploaded a no hit video, without exploiting the glitch too. he's a real chad
I don't like this shit
No hits done with this glitch arent true no hits.
Change my mind
@@ArceTheTroll well toby said its not a glitch so its not :troll:
@@Darkness-jn1is still it feels kinda just…. Empty
The craziest part of this vid isn’t even strat change. It’s that I could have been using F1 the entire time.
same expect I noticed it only works once per battle.
@@End336 it is only once per battle, but in every spamton battle
@@henritaas9997 in Spamton neo pacifist route, who will receive the healing?
@@Firefly256 It's a party heal
@its fine no
Quite a lot of people when someone uses a glitch in their game to make it easier: It's patch time!
Toby Fox when someone uses a glitch in their game to make it easier: We gonna be doing the funny!!
I wish I knew that the "Press [F1] for help" worked outside of Spamton's first battle. Would have saved me a lot of my sanity during the 1v1 against Spamton NEO.
I didn't even know the f1 worked in the first battle, i thought it was a joke or if i did it i would've just gotten extra dialogue
I said goodbye to my top tier healing items
Joa just go to show us that Toby doesn’t mess around
What's F1 do?? I'm losing my mind with the Spamton 1v1 right now cause I suck
@@snoozysheepz260 Heals you for 80 health or something like that (you can't do it during an attack though)
this is very high iq game design. do not, do NOT "patch" unintended fun, simply incorporate it. fun is fun and fun sells games and keeps fans. its also just nice. :)
Toby is a god [DOG]
Tell that to Mario Maker.
i still don't understand how could that be a glitch and not an intentional feature
@@c1oudsky by accident
@@c1oudsky there are two shoot buttons. if programmed as "while holding shoot: increment charge; while not holding shoot, reset charge" *and* "release shoot: shoot based on current charge" then it can happen
based on the game engine it could be more intuitive to make it like that than otherwise
Everyone else: *congratulating Toby on making a clever way to “fix” the exploit*
Me, who didn’t know Spamton’s F1 line actually meant anything: “…” ;-;
I clicked F1 my first playthrough and it did nothing. Afterward, I realized i forgot to click FN + F1.
Me playing in mobile port
Spamton's little healing angel at 0:40 with the rapid headpats is the one thing about this boss that has brought me joy
Kris: I used big shot more than once
Spamton: YOU *W H A T*
Bruh. Man decided instead of fixing a bug, he would make it so that if it’s performed the boss gets harder. What a chad.
Im not the creator of deltarune.
@its fine bro would you stop it
@@8Ball8888 Neither Am I
@its fine we literally don't care
@@8Ball8888 OMG IT’S BRUH MAN! DUDE IM A HUGE FAN!
good thing i beat spamton before the patch using [BIG SHOTS]
@obama i can't believe it obama how could you do this to us
Yeah I did a [BIG SHOT] spam, but fortunately it wasn't my [FIRST VICTORY] so whose the [BIG SHOT] now?
I beat him normally because the first time I didn't know that existed then later I found out and got to his fight again just to see if it worked and then beat him using it and since I'm using a controller it is kinda a pain holding enter while trying to press the buttons on my controller so next time I wanna fight him again imma just keep doing it the normal way.
Oh, I thought the musical battle super long turn was intentional
This should be a thing Developers do more often.
Punish you for using the glitch instead of patching it, add salt to the wound.
Imagine if the people running SMM2 noticed you were exploiting tons of glitches and bugs, and then instead of patching them they decided to go like "okay you're only getting troll levels now LOL"
still I like that
there's this one from a slenderman game where slendy just goes "not even a glitch from this game can save you from me" i heard some people wet their pants
@@its_saval oooooooh can I see
@@FireyDeath4 here i found it th-cam.com/video/GyAM4P8FChU/w-d-xo.html
Noice
I'm glad that i beaten Spamton before the [BIG SHOT] got mad lol
this is exactly what i was hoping would happen
toby would see the glitch, and instead of simply "removing" it, toby made it an actual feature
Good thing I beat snowgrave before it was patched lol
0:47 69%
Toby Fox: You fell to my trap card!!!
Ok mr. fox....... you win this time, but know that i still remember that artifact you stole from me 5 years ago and I. WILL. HAVE. MY. *REVENGEEEEEEE.*
You can't pick up your revenge. Your inventory is full of dogs.
@@OriginalUnjustifier NOOOOOO
I honestly think it's not a glitch but intended. The man is literally called Spamton, to think that if f1 works, spamming should work too, ya know?
Oh no, it was very much unintended. Toby was just a good sport about it
@@justalapis5768 did he speak publicly about it?
@@Kaleidio He literally made it a feature by adding a button to make it easier to abuse.
I haven't played this fight yet, so i can't say how difficult/easy was to do this in the previous version, but i don't think he expected this to happen since it breaks so much the dynamics of the battle (a lot of his attack patterns gets utterly destroyed if you just spam BIG SHOTS. )
@@saul2416 this is what I thought too. To think most people think it's a bug is kinda illogical. I'm a programmer myself, I cannot see how a seperate button would make a charge up timer behave in such a way
I was expecting it to be removed, I'm glad that he made it a feature. I was expecting Spamton to say something like: "YOU'RE SPAMMING SPAMTON!?"
NO MORE. [ruffian.] I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR [FINANCIAL DISCOURSE.] NO MORE [lenient funding] AND NO MORE [BIG SHOTS]
Actually hilarious that people have to now update their strat guides for this boss
Yes [Hyperlink Blocked]
True..