I had a base (300A,3.15, no drag mode) ‘18 10R80 on stock tires (235 a/s) run 11.60s@122 with original pmaf, resonator delete and e85 tune (SSI). It ran 12.50s stock.
when i got lund tuned I asked for drag mode and it actually made my car way smoother when driving normally and the shifts were only firm when i got on it, other wise it drives completely like stock.
Currently have a 20’ mt82 with a couple bolt ons. i can’t wait to see the video for the gen 3 mt82 build series. Good and very informative video as always!
My car is a 22. On headers, pmas Fenderwell intake, and e85 the car runs 10.60s on the street (cool air of course, good DA). Stock unported manifold, 3.15 gears, the car has weight reduction but no panels or carpet or seatbelt is missing, still has the subwoofer and full 401a dash and all. With a converter also. I feel like if my car was an 18-20 I would run 10.4-10.5 lol. Wish I knew the tuning limitations before buying it.
I have 2020 mustang A10 3.15, with Steeda cold air close box, Texxas Speed header, tune by Lund: TUNE 93 run 11.80 full interior at 119mph with 275 35 19 toyo tire r888 E85 full interior and run 11.52 at 120 mph with 275 35 19 Toyo r888 stock rims. And Run 11.30 123 mph without seat and using kirkey. And when i install BMR Kmember 11.18 124mph. With stock rims 275 35 19 toyo tire R888. In the Heat of Puerto Rico.
The great thing about the PMAS intake is you can grow with it. Buy the full fender well kit when you’re stock manifold and then swap the elbow for $75 when you go CJ.
I was going to go Steeda Cai box. But since you said PMAS I’m going PMAS it’s cheaper aswell. Only thing I am not excited for is installing long tubes on a 2020 mustang gt 10r80
N/A F150 3rd gen build? Just intake, exhaust and Lund tune rn on 91 and she surprised a few 10 speed Camaros already in a couple days😅 crew cab too that’s what surprised them. Manifold worth it Alex? Light to light is all I care about and the stock manifold has good torque for that, she already beat most stock LT1 Camaros and Two mt82 3rd gens light to light. (1/8th mile)
@@YDBT4LIFE sorry hahaha it’s N/A for now, saving for a whipple Alex. Paid 15K for engine and labor, so just saving up for the 2650 or whipple depends who’s going through a divorce and wants to sell It asap😅.
Gen 3 Vmp168 mono or whatever it is, hasnt failed on me, never faulted, but you do have to add about 1/2 inch plastic to the gen 2 cj mani and use some blue felpro with rtv to get it to seal perfectly. My t69 faulted probably 47 times within 4000 miles and yes i tried everything including gasket bs.
Good info... I need to learn how to properly stage and launch with the auto. I started to get into a rhythm, but I'm not sure how much rpms I can load the trans with in drag mode. Unfortunately the car started to burnout, I bumped the lights and red lighted twice. This was barely at 2k so I had to practice slowly leaning on the gas, shit tires 12.212 at 117mph was my best time with a 1.98 60' The car is a 2019 PP1 on E85 Palm Beach Tune (before the break up), JLT Intake, Borla Atak Exhaust & Shit Tires.
Good video, the only thing I disagree with is shifting well above 8000. I know each car is different but we shifted at 8000 or less on our 9.76@143mph NA pass. Because of the close ratio 10R80 you can shift it sooner and average more HP doing so.
Thanks for the very informative video! Been thinking about tuning recently my 10r80 car. Was between pbd and lund. Most people recommend lund and I can see why where your in-depth knowledge
@@KylesPants007 that’s what I’m worried about. I think for a relatively stock car they are both going to perform similar but mine is a daily and I have heard lunds drivability and pbd tunes tend to result in “racecar” shifts
Have you done a video about what driveshafts to pick? Also looking on American muscle website pmas intake has two options which one would I get? What tuning device do you recommend?
@@YDBT4LIFE I’m not mad at it for grudge racing really cuz it’s supposed to be like that but I couldn’t do it for a regular time chaser car. For money sure
Alex! Can you touch on the differences with the mach 1 on the next video as well? Just got my 22 mach one and am trying to get as much info I can get! It’s a 6 speed manual (tremec) 👍🏼
Thanks for another informational video! I have some questions, why do you recommend stage 2 over stage 3 comp cams? Also, have you ever worked with, or tuned MHS race cams? If so, what's your opinion of them? I'm looking forward to the next video!
@@executiveinvestments Don't believe me, ask Alex. NA on a Coyote is stupid. The Camaro is a much better platform for that game because of the bigger displacement. He'll say exactly the same thing I'm saying, and he's said it publicly numerous times.
@@executiveinvestments if you know nothing about 5.0 then this would be your answer . im an evo guy and even iknow a blower is the best investment for a gen 2 or gen 3
@@blaqjac21 investment? You must mean waste of money. People who use blowers are those who can’t afford tt’s. But hey, you being a girly Mitsubishi fanboi shows you’re a brokie.
Excellent information. I have a 2018 PP1 GT and it seems my intake cam phasers are not happy. Could this be due to them being shit from the factory or an oiling issue? I do have that stumble when just idling and not driving that you covered in one of your videos.
I bought my 19 used so not sure how previous owner did maintenance. It had the idle stumble and stall issue. I put sea foam in the oil and ran it a few hundred miles. No more idle stumble. 🤷🏼♂️.
How would somebody reach 600 whp like the guy with the black boss 302 did? Motor was done by JPC. outside of custom cams i dont know what was done. He says he spent 18-20k on the motor
When adding a Cobra Jet Intake to gen 3 coyote is the Ford twin 65mm throttle body with JMS adapter more reliable than the other throttle bodies or do they both fail at about the same rate?
Hey there your video was very informative thank you for sharing, if could ask a few questions I would appreciate your feedback I have a 23 Mach1 fully loaded with a 10 speed automatic I’m looking to add a super charger I’m not a drag racer I would rather drive on road courses with scca which supercharger is the best for the money and is less harmful to the motor and what all would it need to be solid and reliable, thanks again and hope to hear a response from you soon
I'm going to be painfully honest with you. The 10-speed automatic is pretty awful for road courses. Every single one of my customers that goes out there with the 10-speed Auto it overheats and a lap or two and it shifts terribly. I highly do not recommend the 10-speed if you're going to do road racing.
@@YDBT4LIFE it’s a track ready package I’ve already taken it out to a few events with no problems drive there and back home but I do appreciate your views on it but back to the question about a supercharger and what it will take for optimum performance
@@YDBT4LIFE 😆 not so much for the road courses more for that supercharged hellkitys on the open I mean open hwy no one around that when I’m drive say 85 mph and then a supercharged vehicle decides he wants to go
Any fix to my 2020 gt 10r80 e85,headers 13k miles blows little amount blue smoke after idle and leaving some red lights,I installed catch can still smoke,I measured 60-130 and not down on any power but still annoying seeing the smoke Car always has fresh oil in it Alex mentioned ringland issue I believe in a past stream
I’m looking to get a gen 3 coyote mustang with the 10 speed or a lt1 Camaro with a 10 speed. What’s your thoughts on getting one over the other. I always been a Chevy guy with a ls3 vette but there are some coyote mustangs in my area that are flying. Would like to try a different platform and add some boost.
@@staffordalvi1929 of you want to go racing boosted...gen 2 is king. Gen 3 is better for gay na stuff. Di sucks on these cars and fail often due to leaky di injectors
@@YDBT4LIFE Thanks for the speedy reply. I asked because I plan to build an N/A coyote GEN3 engine, i.e., AFS CNC ported Cobra Jet V2, Frankenstein CNC ported heads, Comp Cams NSR Stage II Part# 433430, 47lb DeatschWerks, Ford Racing Twin 65mm throttle body, Steeda CAI. I was wondering whether you would recommend a dual pump return system or a boast-a-pump? I believe these are needed for the drag strip (WOT), but not needed for the track, right? Also, would I be able to use my Lund ngauge or need to buy another device?
Are headers worth getting if you don't get a tune for it? I say a post of someone saying there's no point in getting a tune for headers since it won't pick up any power over the stock tune. I'm just trying to understand to expand my knowledge.
@@YDBT4LIFE Ahhh makes sense. So then hypothetically if one was to just remove the cats instead of buying a set of headers it would roughly make the same power gains then?
@@YDBT4LIFE would those software limitations be noticeable in performance compared to the 18-20 cars? I have my eye on a 23, 10r80 car that I’d plan on keeping it NA but I don’t want to buy it regret that decision
@@YDBT4LIFE thank you for helping me out. One more question, my brother has a 20 base model that doesn’t have the drive modes, would a Lund tune allow those to be unlocked or how would he be able to get drag strip mode
These guys are so full of it. Naturally aspirated S550's , DO NOT run that quick.. absolutely not 10's. The only guys that believe does non-sense are people who don't frequent the track and have never built a car themselves.
I had a base (300A,3.15, no drag mode) ‘18 10R80 on stock tires (235 a/s) run 11.60s@122 with original pmaf, resonator delete and e85 tune (SSI). It ran 12.50s stock.
That’s actually insane. Ford did leave a lot on the table especially on the trans
when i got lund tuned I asked for drag mode and it actually made my car way smoother when driving normally and the shifts were only firm when i got on it, other wise it drives completely like stock.
Even tho I own a Gen 2 6r80, I still enjoy watching these type of videos, a lot of good information! Keep up the good work Alex.
All hail the 18-22 gen 3 10 speed!!
Currently have a 20’ mt82 with a couple bolt ons. i can’t wait to see the video for the gen 3 mt82 build series. Good and very informative video as always!
My car is a 22. On headers, pmas Fenderwell intake, and e85 the car runs 10.60s on the street (cool air of course, good DA). Stock unported manifold, 3.15 gears, the car has weight reduction but no panels or carpet or seatbelt is missing, still has the subwoofer and full 401a dash and all. With a converter also. I feel like if my car was an 18-20 I would run 10.4-10.5 lol. Wish I knew the tuning limitations before buying it.
What are the tuning limitations. I have a 22 as well
What tuning limitations?
Would love to see the dragy on that. Of course there is none. 🤭🤭
I have 2020 mustang A10 3.15, with Steeda cold air close box, Texxas Speed header, tune by Lund:
TUNE 93 run 11.80 full interior at 119mph with 275 35 19 toyo tire r888
E85 full interior and run 11.52 at 120 mph with 275 35 19 Toyo r888 stock rims.
And Run 11.30 123 mph without seat and using kirkey.
And when i install BMR Kmember 11.18 124mph. With stock rims 275 35 19 toyo tire R888.
In the Heat of Puerto Rico.
The great thing about the PMAS intake is you can grow with it. Buy the full fender well kit when you’re stock manifold and then swap the elbow for $75 when you go CJ.
where do you get the elbow?
thanks for all that you share with us
Thank you Alex!
We need an 18-20 F150 series! So many people switching from mustangs to F150s due to the 4x4
I was going to go Steeda Cai box. But since you said PMAS I’m going PMAS it’s cheaper aswell. Only thing I am not excited for is installing long tubes on a 2020 mustang gt 10r80
Ah the video everyone in the 956 is waiting for.
Alv cuuuuhhhh!!!!
puro pinche 956 puro pinche 956 puro pinche 956
ALV 😂 RGV
956 from the H Alv 😂
N/A F150 3rd gen build? Just intake, exhaust and Lund tune rn on 91 and she surprised a few 10 speed Camaros already in a couple days😅 crew cab too that’s what surprised them. Manifold worth it Alex? Light to light is all I care about and the stock manifold has good torque for that, she already beat most stock LT1 Camaros and Two mt82 3rd gens light to light. (1/8th mile)
I stopped reading at N/A
@@YDBT4LIFE sorry hahaha it’s N/A for now, saving for a whipple Alex. Paid 15K for engine and labor, so just saving up for the 2650 or whipple depends who’s going through a divorce and wants to sell It asap😅.
Gen 3 Vmp168 mono or whatever it is, hasnt failed on me, never faulted, but you do have to add about 1/2 inch plastic to the gen 2 cj mani and use some blue felpro with rtv to get it to seal perfectly. My t69 faulted probably 47 times within 4000 miles and yes i tried everything including gasket bs.
My Twin Jet 69 VMP throttle body has over 50k on my Gen3r in a 2011 mustang and has never missed a beat!
Good info... I need to learn how to properly stage and launch with the auto. I started to get into a rhythm, but I'm not sure how much rpms I can load the trans with in drag mode. Unfortunately the car started to burnout, I bumped the lights and red lighted twice. This was barely at 2k so I had to practice slowly leaning on the gas, shit tires 12.212 at 117mph was my best time with a 1.98 60'
The car is a 2019 PP1 on E85 Palm Beach Tune (before the break up), JLT Intake, Borla Atak Exhaust & Shit Tires.
After the gen3 videos you should consider doing some for trucks .especially gen3 since they’re the most popular
Good video, the only thing I disagree with is shifting well above 8000. I know each car is different but we shifted at 8000 or less on our 9.76@143mph NA pass. Because of the close ratio 10R80 you can shift it sooner and average more HP doing so.
This comment doesn't make sense to me, u ran 7s in the 1/4 N/A?
Yeah sure
I'm really thinking about an NA gen3 setup in my fox but probably with a t56 for the fun factor. Would just like to run bottom 10's
Thanks for the very informative video! Been thinking about tuning recently my 10r80 car. Was between pbd and lund. Most people recommend lund and I can see why where your in-depth knowledge
I have PBD with my 10r80. It's fast but shifts hard. I just chalk it up as being a fast racecar after all lol
@@KylesPants007 that’s what I’m worried about. I think for a relatively stock car they are both going to perform similar but mine is a daily and I have heard lunds drivability and pbd tunes tend to result in “racecar” shifts
The first step of an NA 10R80 Build. Kiss a homey.
Could you do a video on gen3 coyote f150s?
Have you done a video about what driveshafts to pick? Also looking on American muscle website pmas intake has two options which one would I get? What tuning device do you recommend?
Tony FBO IS TRIGGERED 🤣
These all motor guys cutting pieces out the car to save weight. running nitrometh or crazy gas tranna run 8s. Shit crazy 😂
It's silly. Lol. But it's a thing.
@@YDBT4LIFE I’m not mad at it for grudge racing really cuz it’s supposed to be like that but I couldn’t do it for a regular time chaser car. For money sure
All the lil ladies be like, " nice Mustang, what's done to it". She's NA... " ohhhh umm ok, nice talking to ya ".
You are the man alex
Good stuff 👍🏼
Alex! Can you touch on the differences with the mach 1 on the next video as well? Just got my 22 mach one and am trying to get as much info I can get! It’s a 6 speed manual (tremec) 👍🏼
Sick.
Thanks for another informational video! I have some questions, why do you recommend stage 2 over stage 3 comp cams? Also, have you ever worked with, or tuned MHS race cams? If so, what's your opinion of them? I'm looking forward to the next video!
How to actually build an NA Gen 3
Step 1: Choose an exhaust
Step 2: Save up and buy a blower
Spoken like a true TH-cam racer with zero knowledge.
@@executiveinvestments Don't believe me, ask Alex. NA on a Coyote is stupid. The Camaro is a much better platform for that game because of the bigger displacement. He'll say exactly the same thing I'm saying, and he's said it publicly numerous times.
@@executiveinvestments if you know nothing about 5.0 then this would be your answer . im an evo guy and even iknow a blower is the best investment for a gen 2 or gen 3
@@OnlyRears exactly
@@blaqjac21 investment? You must mean waste of money. People who use blowers are those who can’t afford tt’s. But hey, you being a girly Mitsubishi fanboi shows you’re a brokie.
Nice job Alex…
Yes!
The houston gut 💀
Excellent information. I have a 2018 PP1 GT and it seems my intake cam phasers are not happy. Could this be due to them being shit from the factory or an oiling issue? I do have that stumble when just idling and not driving that you covered in one of your videos.
If it's when warm and Intermittent. Yes
@@YDBT4LIFE Thanks for the response. I'll have to further investigate the issue.
I bought my 19 used so not sure how previous owner did maintenance. It had the idle stumble and stall issue. I put sea foam in the oil and ran it a few hundred miles. No more idle stumble. 🤷🏼♂️.
@@johnmaubach3614 it will come back 100%
@@johnmaubach3614 I will have to se if that helps. If not then I will try heavier weight oil.
What about the new Holley hi ram? Instead of the cobra jet? 👀
Does anyone daily a gen 3 cobra jet catless headers? this is what I’m aiming for but it is my daily lol
2019 mustang 5.0 pp1 10R80
Who do you recommend in SoCal to install all the bolt ons, dyno, and tune?
Thanks!!
I guess I’m bad off since I got a 6speed Gen 3 😅😅
Can you make a video about the 2023 mustang gt please
How would somebody reach 600 whp like the guy with the black boss 302 did? Motor was done by JPC. outside of custom cams i dont know what was done. He says he spent 18-20k on the motor
Great stuff! I’m building a Gen3 FRPP with a T56. Question for you, what is the benefit of the fenderwell PMAS over the one with a heat shield?
Well think of the placement of the intake, it will maintain colder iats as it’s not directly next to the furnace of an engine
@@giovannichavez914 no I understand that, I was trying to see if he could quantify the difference in HP etc.
Don’t sleep on getting your gen3 5.0 A10 by STEEDA
What if it’s a 6speed
🇺🇸
When adding a Cobra Jet Intake to gen 3 coyote is the Ford twin 65mm throttle body with JMS adapter more reliable than the other throttle bodies or do they both fail at about the same rate?
I have FFE and e85 on my 10r80..worth the $ to get long tubes?
Hey there your video was very informative thank you for sharing, if could ask a few questions I would appreciate your feedback I have a 23 Mach1 fully loaded with a 10 speed automatic I’m looking to add a super charger I’m not a drag racer I would rather drive on road courses with scca which supercharger is the best for the money and is less harmful to the motor and what all would it need to be solid and reliable, thanks again and hope to hear a response from you soon
I'm going to be painfully honest with you. The 10-speed automatic is pretty awful for road courses. Every single one of my customers that goes out there with the 10-speed Auto it overheats and a lap or two and it shifts terribly. I highly do not recommend the 10-speed if you're going to do road racing.
@@YDBT4LIFE it’s a track ready package I’ve already taken it out to a few events with no problems drive there and back home but I do appreciate your views on it but back to the question about a supercharger and what it will take for optimum performance
@@PedroSoliz-iy1wc lol what do you think a supercharger is going to do with a 10r on a road course?
@@YDBT4LIFE 😆 not so much for the road courses more for that supercharged hellkitys on the open I mean open hwy no one around that when I’m drive say 85 mph and then a supercharged vehicle decides he wants to go
@@PedroSoliz-iy1wc hard to beat a ess g3x for the price and performance.
Looking to trade my 2016 in on a 2018. Just looking to run easy 11's.
Get a 2020 or 2019 if you can.
@@YDBT4LIFE why is that?
@@coyotelife9732 never get the 1st year of anything
@@YDBT4LIFE would you avoid 21-23s?
@@mattbynum4104 well not really. Except they seem to be cheaply made compared to older s550..
What's the story on the dad new balance sneakers 😂
Gen 3 tr3160 build !!! Please and thank you
Lol no
How big of a difference is the 18-20 10r vs
21+ in performance output after a tune? Currently have a 19 Lund tune was thinking of getting a 21 Mach 1
I would like to get a tune done by you, I have the sct scanner, would you let me know what would be the best way to get in contact with you?
We don't support sct
Support@lundracing.com is where to order a tune.
@YDBT4LIFE - Do you have a vid like this for manuals or are these approaches applicable to manuals as well?
Yes. I already made them. Go back and check them out.
gen 3 mt82 is gonna help my friend out alot cant wait
Should drop Wednesday
@@YDBT4LIFE hell yeah once it's dropped sending it straight over to him
Any fix to my 2020 gt 10r80 e85,headers 13k miles
blows little amount blue smoke after idle and leaving some red lights,I installed catch can still smoke,I measured 60-130 and not down on any power but still annoying seeing the smoke
Car always has fresh oil in it
Alex mentioned ringland issue I believe in a past stream
If you are seeing blue smoke it's burning oil no other way around it
rip
@@YDBT4LIFE thank you for the response you truly are the best
@@thatwasonce I wouldn’t say RIP with a 8.1 60-130
@cuhyote5435 what ended up happening?
I’m looking to get a gen 3 coyote mustang with the 10 speed or a lt1 Camaro with a 10 speed. What’s your thoughts on getting one over the other. I always been a Chevy guy with a ls3 vette but there are some coyote mustangs in my area that are flying. Would like to try a different platform and add some boost.
Depends on what goals are.
The Camaro for na will probably be better
But if you plan to boost it. I'd get the mustang.
@@YDBT4LIFE definitely going to end up being boosted. Thanks
Oh man now you got me thinking Gen 3. I've been looking for a Gen 2 currently. Is there anything to be concerned about with the DPI?
What the hell is dpi
@@YDBT4LIFE sorry I meant direct injection
@@staffordalvi1929 of you want to go racing boosted...gen 2 is king. Gen 3 is better for gay na stuff. Di sucks on these cars and fail often due to leaky di injectors
@@YDBT4LIFE I'm eventually going boosted for sure. Thanks for your help. I'll be calling lund for a tune as soon as I get my gen 2.
How does your recommendations change for a S550 manual transmission at the track (not the drag strip)?
Unfortunately I don't have much road race experience. I'd keep it mostly stock with good brakes and suspension from steeda
@@YDBT4LIFE Thanks for the speedy reply. I asked because I plan to build an N/A coyote GEN3 engine, i.e., AFS CNC ported Cobra Jet V2, Frankenstein CNC ported heads, Comp Cams NSR Stage II Part# 433430, 47lb DeatschWerks, Ford Racing Twin 65mm throttle body, Steeda CAI. I was wondering whether you would recommend a dual pump return system or a boast-a-pump? I believe these are needed for the drag strip (WOT), but not needed for the track, right? Also, would I be able to use my Lund ngauge or need to buy another device?
Why it's all’ IN YOUR OPINION ?? But not by your experience????
How can I get a tune on my mustang by Alex?
Are headers worth getting if you don't get a tune for it? I say a post of someone saying there's no point in getting a tune for headers since it won't pick up any power over the stock tune. I'm just trying to understand to expand my knowledge.
The power more than often comes with the deletion of the catalytic converters
@@YDBT4LIFE Ahhh makes sense. So then hypothetically if one was to just remove the cats instead of buying a set of headers it would roughly make the same power gains then?
@@olivermayer5834 similar.... hypothetically. But long tubes will perform well. But if it's a budget issue...some ffe helps
@@YDBT4LIFE Awesome, thanks!
Do you have any info with the mt82?
Puro 956 ALV PRIMO
What about 22+ GTs, is there better tuning support available already or is it still limited?
21+ have more limitations due to software. 18-20 still gen 3 daddy
So on my base ‘23, 10R80 maybe a bit more effort to get into the 10’s consistently? I live in Orlando, fyi.
@@YDBT4LIFEso my 2023 sucks then?
What about suspension? Steeda?
I already covered all of that in the gen 2 build series
I hear you always suggest getting 18-20 cars because of tuning limitations on the later gen 3…. Does all this still apply to the 21+ cars
Yes. 21+ is limited by software
@@YDBT4LIFE would those software limitations be noticeable in performance compared to the 18-20 cars? I have my eye on a 23, 10r80 car that I’d plan on keeping it NA but I don’t want to buy it regret that decision
@@rynev3392 yes.
Especially with trans tuning and future simplification of gen 3 fuel systems.
@@YDBT4LIFE thank you for helping me out. One more question, my brother has a 20 base model that doesn’t have the drive modes, would a Lund tune allow those to be unlocked or how would he be able to get drag strip mode
@@rynev3392 we would send a tune that forced the car into drag mode all the time until the tune is removed.
So pmas fenderwell better then jlt ?
A piece of sewer pipe is better than jlt
@@YDBT4LIFE lmao I did get good gains from it though but I wanna switch to the new 120mm p51 and Gen 1 ported cj
SMH.
How fast can you go in a Gen 3 with a hot dog water tune?
Hello hello
NA the type of guy that yells out the window after he loses to boost cars he’s NA
Lund ftw
Just sell it
These guys are so full of it. Naturally aspirated S550's , DO NOT run that quick.. absolutely not 10's.
The only guys that believe does non-sense are people who don't frequent the track and have never built a car themselves.
I've tune over 20 NA S550's that run 10's, want timeslips and video?
@@YDBT4LIFEhow much power are these so-called 10 second actually aspirated mustangs making?
@@cb3002233 490-500rwhp
Good stuff 👍🏼