@@chillisauce6079 I think you're potentially missing the point with auto wash.... As with all BH products, it's not about suds or glamorous packaging... Their products are results oriented and I've yet to find a shampoo that cleans as good and DOESN'T leave a greasy, waxy residue. That being said, I but 7.5ml in a 10 litre bucket and I get plenty of suds, maybe you need to put about .5l in the bottom of the bucket, add the auto wash, then blast your water in, or perhaps you just need more water pressure?
@@markkerr3761Not really, I know what BH are about and I use a lot of their products which I rate highly. However this doesn't work for me. I like some lubrication when I'm contact washing and this product doesn't offer that which I believe is partly down to my tap water being hard. As for cleaning power, there is little dirt on the car at the contact wash stage so this isn't an important factor for me.
@@chillisauce6079 I guess it must be the water then because I get plenty of suds and lubrication, even with 5-7.5ml per 10 litres of warm water. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree 👍🏼
I like to spray a bit on the brush and brush it on as I find that if you squirt it on the wheel, half or more of it goes straight through and lands on the brake disc or the road behind. Saves a lot doing it this way.
Appreciate your opinion. I like Bilt Hamber products and all their products I have used provide good results at a reasonable price. Keep up the good work!
I suspect that a more cost effective way of cleaning dirty wheels could be a 1:10 dilution of APC (Surfex), followed by a light spray of Auto Wheels or possibly 1:1 dilution of Auto Wheels because you would require less of the expensive product after using a relatively small amount of APC.
Thats exactly what I do too. Surfex removes a serious amount of dirt and contaminant, then autowheel just removes the bonded contaminants. Just using autowheel on its own sometimes needs a second hit as its fully reacted with the stuff that isn't bonded with nothing left for the stuff that is.
Search up fast shot wheel cleaner. I think this blows away Bilt hamber in cleaning power. Slims detailing gave me a sample of it to try out and its the only wheel cleaner I'd use
One benefit to Meguiar's Ultimate Wheel Cleaner is that it can be used on all wheel surfaces. Not sure about Bilt Hamber since it is not available in the states. It makes sense that Meguiar's strength is less given it is designed to be sold to the average joe. It would be interesting how Meguiar's Wheel & Paint Iron Decon D1801 would compare to Bilt Hamber.
Mr Muscle products use the same triggers on their products, so I'm guessing they're not exclusive to BH. On the plus side it means you can use them to hold different concentrations of BH products and benefit from the trigger design.
I've been using Autosmart Red7 on my wheels for the last 9+ months and, like the Bilt Hamber in your comparison, it 'lights up' very very quickly. How about a comparison with Red7 and Bilt Hamber?
Meg's stuff is generally good, but I'm increasingly replacing my kit with Bilt Hamber. Use the Autowheels and Autofoam as part of my car washes. Also have BH clay bars, no need for expensive lube. Will be looking for other stuff of BH in the future - great stuff.
Megs has 2 classes of products, a professional line and a consumer line. The consumer line (the "Ultimate" line) is meant to be idiot proof. They make a much stronger and thicker Meguiar's D1801 Wheel & Paint Iron DECON - Pro-Strength Iron Remover, for professionals and "Prosumers" That Megs Ultimate wheel cleaner bottle you have in the video is sold everywhere here in the US. You can walk into some supermarkets and home improvement type stores and find it. Typically it's around $9US
We really need to get Bilt Hamber products in the US. We can get them but they are quite expensive as compared to the UK selling prices. The Meguiars products are quite less here too.
Great video. Don't forget the BH can be diluted for subsequent maintenance washes which makes this really good value. Loved the pet tree dish demonstration.
Awesome tests, loved the bottle on the background saying "dirt simulator" :D Gave me a good old laugh. No surprises in the results, this might be a bit bold, but I feel using more budget and performance oriented products everyday, that "big companies are just a good label, a fancy bottle and some performance, oh yeah and an amazing marketing team! ( and I also try to save me mates always a couple of quids recommending good and working stuffs, sort of educating them into the right direction) Thank you once again for the good and interesting video Jon!
I bought this product and it is brilliant. Best alloy wheel cleaner I’ve come across in 15 years of car cleaning toil! It lifted the brake dirt very quickly and required minimal effort. Quick going over with the detailing brush, wash off with the pressure washer and then a hot water and car shampoo wash with a mit to get any last traces of the chemical off. Finally, a last go with the pressure washer. Almost new finish on 6 year old alloys which have covered 100k plus miles. 👍
Used bilt hamber today and couldn't believe how good it was. Caked on brake dust from race compound pads... Was thinking I'd have to get the wheels refurbed. BH removed it all despite having to give it a few goes and a bit of a scrub.
I very rarely use these sorts of products tbh. I use EZ Car Care Viper diluted down to 10:1. It's £28 for 5 litres so at that dilution ration I get 50 litres for £28! Because its so cheap I can really go mad with the application and it works an absolute treat on my Alfa's wheels, which are well maintained and cleaned weekly. I only use fallout removers when I'm dealing with really disgustingly dirty wheels with embedded iron contamination. Because I use them so rarely I just keep a few bottles of one I find on offer knocking around. Got 2 bottles of the TurtleWax one in their build-a-bucket deal!
Iv been using meguiars alloy wheel cleaner, was on a good offer at the time ( I would never pay full price for it) so decided why not. I find it reacts very quickly on my alloys. After this review think I will give BH a go. Thanks.
I like the dirt simulator test; I would have thought Megs would have been a bit better than a pure fallout remover. But then you’ve proved that wrong. Thanks.
Great video enjoyed it a lot. Surprised by the results! Never used a bilt hamber product but will definitely try after watching this. Would have been great to see sonax xtreme full effect in with these two as well, as a product that is highly rated online
I'm looking at replacing valet pro bilberry wheel cleaner which I've used for years due to being able to dilute it. I want to switch to BH AW so I can use it all over the car as a wheel cleaner and fallout remover but it's double the price in 5l form to bilberry cleaner. How have you found AW when you've watered it down and how much have you diluted it and sill found it effective? Also what is SHD? questionsquestions!
Was suprised you were comparing them as cleaners as they’re not they are fallout removers not cleaners , whee process is initial rinse, ( I still use a diluted tfr for this tbh shift dust and grease off the bat) these scrub with a wheel cleaner , rinse and then apply fall out let it dwell not dry, agitate with a detail brush and rinse 👍🏻 but should limit fall out remover to occasional cleans , was glad to see the BH product reviewed though , shows you don’t need a fancy designer label to be a good product, cheers John 👍🏻
I use the bilt hamber its great. Only thing I change is put it in a mister bottle. I don't like tje single her stream. You end up using far too much product less product better coverage saving money by using a mister bottle or jist change the spray head
I really love all your videos as I am a subscriber, but I get confused by all of the products that you mention that are based in your area of the world and realize that they are not available here in the U.S. But no matter what, I still enjoy your expertise and knowledge and always look forward to more videos from you Jon. Keep up the great work!
Never used BH before, so after watching the video, I grabbed the discount code & bought the wheel cleaner & also some BH car shampoo too 👍🏻😁 Good review.
I reckon but thoroughly pressure wash off. Bilt Hamber do a dedicated fall out remover called Korrosol which I use on wheels also and is really powerful so I don’t bother with auto wheels. You can also get Korrosol in 5 liters which makes it a lot cheaper
7 dislikes lol.. Great test with a very honest answer. The fact bh can be watered down speaks volumes. The wheel could even be wetted and a slightly less aggressive pass with the spray gun used to the same effect. Keep up the good work mate
Eagle One made an incredibly good & cheap wheel cleaner with that same fallout remover in it. They stopped making it??? I bought that stuff by the case
I'm assuming Jon has chosen the ultimate wheel cleaner for this test because it's more of a direct comparison... If the pro version is but effective, then why would meguiars sell the ultimate version... Surely it isn't to maximise profit by selling a watered-down product to the everyday consumer??
I'm thinking.. A quick fallout removal with Auto wheel, followed up by a thorough degreasing and cleaning with brake buster. Might be an amazing combo.
I don't know if you can get Elite car cleaning products in England or if they can ship it to you but there alloy wheel cleaner ( its alkaline not acid )is fantastic. They are a small family owned and run business and manufacturer their own products in Belfast, Northern Ireland supplying the trade and those in the know 😉. I've been using the stuff for over 30 years now and used neat or up to 5:1 and not just on wheels and tires but engine bays ect. You know its going to work well when you can see the dirt oozing out of your tyres, I've even used it on 40' curtain sided lorries and they don't half hold a lot of dirt.
Auto Wheels is the best car product I have ever used, it the only wheel cleaner that get off all brake dust, and tar build up, it even get off that hard brake crust in the corner of the wheel that is almost impossible to remove, and the best thing about this product, once used, it keeps on going and stops brake dust from clinging to the wheel, so the next time you do a clean it super easy to remove.
Might have been just mine. But I used the bilt hamber auto wheel after recommendations on central, and it seemed to speed up wheel corrosion when using it as a sole wheel cleaner.
I use built hamber for a good clean e.g pre show clean and to be honest, I use a cheap tin of spray stuff from a home bargains/pound shop for maintenance washes £1 for a 750ml tin lasts around 3/4 washes
Great vid, question I have a white greasy residue on my wheel nuts and on parts of my alloy wheel protectors that I can't seem to get off struggling to find anything about it online. Any idea in how to get this off, I've used quite a few different things but doesn't really seem to touch it been told it could be due to going to the quick wash places as they usually use high acid solution cleaners? Any advice would be great.
The pinkish/purple meguiers rim clean is an excellent degreaser. The red bottle chrome rim cleaner will eat chrome if you arent careful I use the pink meguiers for engine cleaning, suspension cleaning really anything greasy.
Bilt Hamber is quite caustic where zinc plated brake callipers and brake disk hubs are concerned. Regular use will result in the aforementioned components suffering from unsightly corrosion and rust!
Another great video. As a recent Autobrite user I’d find it interesting to see how their latest Purple Rain 3.0 gel product would compare. It’s not the cheapest but is another UK brand to compete!
Yes the BH is cheaper, but you also pay £5 delivery. Where the Meguiars i can call into Halfords and pick it up when i do my weekly shop. Ok, i could buy either off Amazon and get free delivery, except the BH is £4 more expensive on Amazon as it is direct from BH. In fact at the moment, Meguiars is £11.60 (minus 10% Blue Light discount) and BH is £17.90 delivered.
Having tried ",loads" of wheel cleaners over the years.. done good and done rubbish... I still come back to Auto Wheels... It is the best and if you buy in 5 litre drums it's even better value
So I’ve been using the maguires stuff. Does a fantastic job of clearing the crap off your wheels. So what do I do to keep the brake discs clean? Start the car, floor it. Brake hard. Reverse, floor it brake hard. Discs are shiny every time. Yet I’ve just ordered a bottle of boot hamber 😂
Love these comparison videos John Expected the result, bilt hamber is top drawer I tend to use sufex HD at 10%, then finish with a small amount of this, it lasts and there is not much grime left for it. A great finish on the wheels that way 💪
At 1:10 dilution, Koch Chemie Greenstar works as good as Surfex as a wheel cleaner. I bought Greenstar as I was sold on its mild rust-inhibiting content for brakes, suspension, metal valve stems et al.
For me bang for buck is Turtle Wax Redline. Can get it for around £10 per litre if you look about. Very good results., would be good to compare this to Bilt hamber. I'm reluctant to change from the Turtle wax because I honestly think it is that good
I've noticed that Meguiar's Iron Decon gives much closer results to the Bilt Hamber. It lights up immediately, doesn't take much product, and really breaks down the dust. All Wheel is fine, but it's nowhere near as strong. But then again Iron Decon ain't exactly cheap either 😅 (can't get BH here in the US)
Megs prices in the US are strong.. In the UK like others have said some stuff is alarmingly expensive. I think you can alienate markets very rapidly if your prices get too high. £16 pounds for 709ml of this product. This is a problem and its something I have to cover in reviews even if its a bit of a negative.
Meguiar's is around $25.00 AU, but i have used Bowdens wheel cleaner, also Meguiar's retail products do no compare price wise at all compared to pro products ie: car pro iron x and others, but more importantly the spray bottle nozzle sprays in a foam like spray, yet others come out like a small mist like sprey, so i got a normally old adjustable spray nozzle bottle and got 3 times car wheels use out of it, compared to the two times or 8 wheels with the meguiers nozzle spray bottle?
Great as always Jon. Something worth mentioning, it's not really your opinions, it's your experience that you're sharing in this video. There's a difference between them and experience sits way higher on the believability scale and that's what I appreciate with the videos you do. Keep up the excellent work!
autowheels is a very potented and very powerfull wheel cleaner.. yes use it on its own... the arguement is that autowheels is prolly too powerfull and too expensive to use every wash. USe surfex HD at 10:1 if you are washing and maintaining the wheels well. And then autowheels once every few months. Dont spray autowheels on calipers or disks (or just minimise spraying it on those areas)
@@ForensicDetailing thanks for your reply! This makes complete sense, I was looking at Surfex HD as a wheel cleaner but I didnt know if it was powerful enough. Ill get the auto wheels and dilute it down i reckon to make it more cost effective.
I bought & used Maguires and was impressed. When it ran out I decided to try BH instead as seen your reviews on their products. I think the BH is better. My reasons are it’s cheaper & I don’t think you need as much.
the speed of the reaction of this product is unrivalled. but it also just seems to do a better job cleaning out and breaking down the dirt in the wheel. its an incredible product. The icing on the cake is its considerable cheaper as well. I have a lot of trust and respect for megs but its out gunned here.
Bilt Hamber v Red 7 . Which would you say works better ? Im in need of some now my Red 7 has run out , its lasted ages but I have been happy with it BUT if the Hamber is a better product I will get some of this instead
So in the US you can find Meg's all wheel cleaner for just $8.47 or 6.47 in pounds at the current exchange rate. Even with that lower price though I don't think it would have won. Too bad they don't sell BH products here in the US. 😭
HS-tuning dot com has some products of BH in the US. Think it's another company that has started to take them in but don't remember where it was. It where a quite new detailing shop.
First of all I'd like to thank you for charing your experience and knowledge. I would like to see a video where you show the impact of using different compunds with different pads and maybe even different machines. Not an overly extensive video but perhaps one cutting compund and one finishing compound and teaming them up with one microfibre pad, one wool pad, one hard foam pad and one finishing pad. If there is a difference, maybe a roatary and a da polisher. How much would a microfibre pad cut with a finishing compund or how much would a finishing pad cut with a cutting compund? For me it would be interesting to se how much the different components affects the result.
less impact from the pad than you would think Codriver. But its very hard to demo this. you would just be looking at footage but not knowing the impact. think cutting pad foam.. your asking it to do more, theres more resistence when trying to cut with heavy abrasives because theres more friction, more debry being removed, so pad needs to be stiffer to cope and pores needs to be bigger to cope with more residue coming out. more heat build up, sometimes more pressure being applied. So stiffer coarser pad can be beneficial. its more about using the optimal vehicale for transport the abrasives.. the misconception is its the pad that has "cut" etc..
the strength of the reaction of the TGA has no bearing on the effect to harm the wheels. Due to the nature of the chemistry. The TGA only reacts on rust FE2o3 and it alters rust into a purple iron thyiogycolic (sp?_ oxide which is soluabe in water at the point of reaction. the TGA portion does not degrade clearcoat.
Never bought a Bilt Hamber product that I wasn’t happy with. Trusted products.
Auto Wash is shite. Needed 1/3 of a bottle to get any suds. Got hard water though.
Chilli Sauce never had an issue round here, not sure on the water hardness though. 👍🏻
@@chillisauce6079 I think you're potentially missing the point with auto wash.... As with all BH products, it's not about suds or glamorous packaging... Their products are results oriented and I've yet to find a shampoo that cleans as good and DOESN'T leave a greasy, waxy residue. That being said, I but 7.5ml in a 10 litre bucket and I get plenty of suds, maybe you need to put about .5l in the bottom of the bucket, add the auto wash, then blast your water in, or perhaps you just need more water pressure?
@@markkerr3761Not really, I know what BH are about and I use a lot of their products which I rate highly. However this doesn't work for me. I like some lubrication when I'm contact washing and this product doesn't offer that which I believe is partly down to my tap water being hard. As for cleaning power, there is little dirt on the car at the contact wash stage so this isn't an important factor for me.
@@chillisauce6079 I guess it must be the water then because I get plenty of suds and lubrication, even with 5-7.5ml per 10 litres of warm water. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree 👍🏼
1st ever time I’ve bought something from a TH-cam review and I’m pleased to see perfect results! Thank you and keep it up!
thank you Tom it means a lot when people take time out of their day to comment positive messages like this. Merry Xmas
I like to spray a bit on the brush and brush it on as I find that if you squirt it on the wheel, half or more of it goes straight through and lands on the brake disc or the road behind. Saves a lot doing it this way.
thats a good tip I will try this cheers.
Once again great video with lots of unbiased information. Thanks for your effort !
The best detailing channel on TH-cam 👍
@Irg mate you drive a Renault 😄😭. Jog on.
Appreciate your opinion. I like Bilt Hamber products and all their products I have used provide good results at a reasonable price. Keep up the good work!
I suspect that a more cost effective way of cleaning dirty wheels could be a 1:10 dilution of APC (Surfex), followed by a light spray of Auto Wheels or possibly 1:1 dilution of Auto Wheels because you would require less of the expensive product after using a relatively small amount of APC.
Thats exactly what I do too. Surfex removes a serious amount of dirt and contaminant, then autowheel just removes the bonded contaminants.
Just using autowheel on its own sometimes needs a second hit as its fully reacted with the stuff that isn't bonded with nothing left for the stuff that is.
Don’t even need to watch, it’s Bilt Hamber!
Of course I’m going to watch though 🤣
Search up fast shot wheel cleaner. I think this blows away Bilt hamber in cleaning power. Slims detailing gave me a sample of it to try out and its the only wheel cleaner I'd use
One benefit to Meguiar's Ultimate Wheel Cleaner is that it can be used on all wheel surfaces. Not sure about Bilt Hamber since it is not available in the states. It makes sense that Meguiar's strength is less given it is designed to be sold to the average joe. It would be interesting how Meguiar's Wheel & Paint Iron Decon D1801 would compare to Bilt Hamber.
Excellent test! You are definitely paying for the nice meguiars packaging
Unbiased and honest good work 👍🏻👏👏
I use BH in the winter when it's too bloody cold to do a contact wash and jet wash it off, incredible stuff 👍🏻
Bilt Hamber needs distribution in USA. Quite interesting Jon has a 2016 video illustrating this company,, Bilt Hamber
I'm sure I've seen it posted somewhere there is distribution now in the US.
Plus BH make the best trigger sprays around,making the overall experience even better.
That's something most people don't think about but I also find the BH trigger & spray the best in market.
Mr Muscle products use the same triggers on their products, so I'm guessing they're not exclusive to BH. On the plus side it means you can use them to hold different concentrations of BH products and benefit from the trigger design.
Excellent video
I really enjoy how he conducts experiments comparing car detailing products
Thank you very much
I learn a lot
Bilt Hamber all the way, just simply my go to. Its so powerful, I routinely use it diluted 1:1 with water.
just to clarify do you mean you dilute the auto wheel liquid? if so do you think it significantly affects the performance of it?
I've been using Autosmart Red7 on my wheels for the last 9+ months and, like the Bilt Hamber in your comparison, it 'lights up' very very quickly.
How about a comparison with Red7 and Bilt Hamber?
Meg's stuff is generally good, but I'm increasingly replacing my kit with Bilt Hamber. Use the Autowheels and Autofoam as part of my car washes. Also have BH clay bars, no need for expensive lube. Will be looking for other stuff of BH in the future - great stuff.
Megs has 2 classes of products, a professional line and a consumer line. The consumer line (the "Ultimate" line) is meant to be idiot proof. They make a much stronger and thicker Meguiar's D1801 Wheel & Paint Iron DECON - Pro-Strength Iron Remover, for professionals and "Prosumers" That Megs Ultimate wheel cleaner bottle you have in the video is sold everywhere here in the US. You can walk into some supermarkets and home improvement type stores and find it. Typically it's around $9US
Excellent knowledgable review, Jon!😎👏🏻
Always enjoy them as they’re very thorough and honest!👍🏻
If only you could get BH in the states...
I've used CarPro and Sonax. Sonax full effect is very potent.
P&S Brake Buster FTW
Sonax wheel cleaner plus is stronger as far as I understand
There is distribution now in the US I believe
your videos are just great, bought lots of products based on your opinion and im happy with each and every item
How about doing this exact same test with BH vs. Eagle One Black and Plasticoat wheel cleaner. I think that would be a much better match up.
We really need to get Bilt Hamber products in the US. We can get them but they are quite expensive as compared to the UK selling prices. The Meguiars products are quite less here too.
Check out hstuning. They have some but not all of their line.
Great video. Don't forget the BH can be diluted for subsequent maintenance washes which makes this really good value. Loved the pet tree dish demonstration.
Awesome tests, loved the bottle on the background saying "dirt simulator" :D Gave me a good old laugh. No surprises in the results, this might be a bit bold, but I feel using more budget and performance oriented products everyday, that "big companies are just a good label, a fancy bottle and some performance, oh yeah and an amazing marketing team! ( and I also try to save me mates always a couple of quids recommending good and working stuffs, sort of educating them into the right direction)
Thank you once again for the good and interesting video Jon!
I bought this product and it is brilliant. Best alloy wheel cleaner I’ve come across in 15 years of car cleaning toil! It lifted the brake dirt very quickly and required minimal effort. Quick going over with the detailing brush, wash off with the pressure washer and then a hot water and car shampoo wash with a mit to get any last traces of the chemical off. Finally, a last go with the pressure washer. Almost new finish on 6 year old alloys which have covered 100k plus miles. 👍
Fantastic review Jon.
Could you perhaps do a review on the cheapest wheel cleaner/iron fall out remover Vs the most expensive?
Used bilt hamber today and couldn't believe how good it was. Caked on brake dust from race compound pads... Was thinking I'd have to get the wheels refurbed. BH removed it all despite having to give it a few goes and a bit of a scrub.
Sounds like the best method is to begin with the degreacer to remove any barriers which could inhibit the full potential of the fallout removal..?
I very rarely use these sorts of products tbh. I use EZ Car Care Viper diluted down to 10:1. It's £28 for 5 litres so at that dilution ration I get 50 litres for £28! Because its so cheap I can really go mad with the application and it works an absolute treat on my Alfa's wheels, which are well maintained and cleaned weekly.
I only use fallout removers when I'm dealing with really disgustingly dirty wheels with embedded iron contamination. Because I use them so rarely I just keep a few bottles of one I find on offer knocking around. Got 2 bottles of the TurtleWax one in their build-a-bucket deal!
Brilliant informative video yet again. Thanks 👍
Iv been using meguiars alloy wheel cleaner, was on a good offer at the time ( I would never pay full price for it) so decided why not. I find it reacts very quickly on my alloys. After this review think I will give BH a go. Thanks.
I like the dirt simulator test; I would have thought Megs would have been a bit better than a pure fallout remover. But then you’ve proved that wrong. Thanks.
Just kicked off this vid, I’m going to call it early: BH takes it.
Same here, and I think so too.
agreed, Im a massive fan of BH products
...knew it 👍
Good call bud 😁👍👍
Same here, they massively over deliver imo
Great video enjoyed it a lot. Surprised by the results! Never used a bilt hamber product but will definitely try after watching this. Would have been great to see sonax xtreme full effect in with these two as well, as a product that is highly rated online
I've been watering down my BH AW with SHD and a bit of water - works a treat cleans, de-irons and substantially reduces the cost.
I'm looking at replacing valet pro bilberry wheel cleaner which I've used for years due to being able to dilute it. I want to switch to BH AW so I can use it all over the car as a wheel cleaner and fallout remover but it's double the price in 5l form to bilberry cleaner. How have you found AW when you've watered it down and how much have you diluted it and sill found it effective? Also what is SHD? questionsquestions!
SHD I assume is surfex HD, another product from bilt hamber.
I love bilt Hamber products. Autowheels is the best wheel cleaner I’ve tried. But I’m a bit of a fanboy for their auto wash and waxes too.
Was suprised you were comparing them as cleaners as they’re not they are fallout removers not cleaners , whee process is initial rinse, ( I still use a diluted tfr for this tbh shift dust and grease off the bat) these scrub with a wheel cleaner , rinse and then apply fall out let it dwell not dry, agitate with a detail brush and rinse 👍🏻 but should limit fall out remover to occasional cleans , was glad to see the BH product reviewed though , shows you don’t need a fancy designer label to be a good product, cheers John 👍🏻
Was going to buy the maguires but glad I just watched this, deffo going to get the BH now.
Great comparison!! Love your work 😀
Would you lay a layer of foam over the Auto wheels to give some extra lubricity and add some degreasing capabilities
Having used both BH and GTechniq W6, I think they compare very well. I use W6 as my go-to now however.
Agree!
To the Bilt Hamber CEO, Get your products into the U.S please. There is a massive market for your products.
Trump will stick a 1000% tariff on it.
Never thought of diluting down. Might try doing this with Korrosol. Many thanks.
I’m sold on bilt hamber great review John.
Are Bilt Hamber products ok on ceramic coatings, in particular Wheels Cleaner, Corrosol and Surfex HD on Carbon Collective?
I use the bilt hamber its great. Only thing I change is put it in a mister bottle. I don't like tje single her stream. You end up using far too much product less product better coverage saving money by using a mister bottle or jist change the spray head
Bilt Hamber never heard of it me till i seen this video ...it looks good stuff cheers mate i'll get some and give it a go
Always love the comparison videos.
I really love all your videos as I am a subscriber, but I get confused by all of the products that you mention that are based in your area of the world and realize that they are not available here in the U.S. But no matter what, I still enjoy your expertise and knowledge and always look forward to more videos from you Jon. Keep up the great work!
Can't you get Bilt Hamber online in the US. I've seen reviews on there Snow foam also and it's the best cleaning snow foam out there.
Never used BH before, so after watching the video, I grabbed the discount code & bought the wheel cleaner & also some BH car shampoo too 👍🏻😁 Good review.
Can I use BH on paint as well and is it equally efficient on paint??
Yes u can
I reckon but thoroughly pressure wash off. Bilt Hamber do a dedicated fall out remover called Korrosol which I use on wheels also and is really powerful so I don’t bother with auto wheels. You can also get Korrosol in 5 liters which makes it a lot cheaper
7 dislikes lol.. Great test with a very honest answer. The fact bh can be watered down speaks volumes. The wheel could even be wetted and a slightly less aggressive pass with the spray gun used to the same effect. Keep up the good work mate
Eagle One made an incredibly good & cheap wheel cleaner with that same fallout remover in it. They stopped making it??? I bought that stuff by the case
You should have used the meguiars professional iron decon series.. But thanks for the comparison.
I'm assuming Jon has chosen the ultimate wheel cleaner for this test because it's more of a direct comparison... If the pro version is but effective, then why would meguiars sell the ultimate version... Surely it isn't to maximise profit by selling a watered-down product to the everyday consumer??
I'm thinking.. A quick fallout removal with Auto wheel, followed up by a thorough degreasing and cleaning with brake buster. Might be an amazing combo.
Never used BH but a very good cleaner and fall out remover as I tend to use Autoglyms magma as it does the job for me
I use valetpro bilberry wheel cleaner. Good stuff for a good price. Might try the BH when I run out👍
Me too for 3-4 years (same gallon), really economical with dilution 1:3/1:4 and still decent. I will switch to something different soon
Ordered the BH one for my car. Waiting for it to arrive then will give feedback on it and the pressure washer gun.
I don't know if you can get Elite car cleaning products in England or if they can ship it to you but there alloy wheel cleaner ( its alkaline not acid )is fantastic. They are a small family owned and run business and manufacturer their own products in Belfast, Northern Ireland supplying the trade and those in the know 😉. I've been using the stuff for over 30 years now and used neat or up to 5:1 and not just on wheels and tires but engine bays ect. You know its going to work well when you can see the dirt oozing out of your tyres, I've even used it on 40' curtain sided lorries and they don't half hold a lot of dirt.
Auto Wheels is the best car product I have ever used, it the only wheel cleaner that get off all brake dust, and tar build up, it even get off that hard brake crust in the corner of the wheel that is almost impossible to remove, and the best thing about this product, once used, it keeps on going and stops brake dust from clinging to the wheel, so the next time you do a clean it super easy to remove.
What if you mix autowheel with surfex hd 50/50.
Wouldn't that be a touchless cleaner or would the chemicals fight with each other?
Might have been just mine. But I used the bilt hamber auto wheel after recommendations on central, and it seemed to speed up wheel corrosion when using it as a sole wheel cleaner.
I use built hamber for a good clean e.g pre show clean and to be honest, I use a cheap tin of spray stuff from a home bargains/pound shop for maintenance washes £1 for a 750ml tin lasts around 3/4 washes
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Another great video, I started using BH a few years ago and found it to out perform the others even My old favorite iron x.
Much better than Iron x
Great vid, question I have a white greasy residue on my wheel nuts and on parts of my alloy wheel protectors that I can't seem to get off struggling to find anything about it online. Any idea in how to get this off, I've used quite a few different things but doesn't really seem to touch it been told it could be due to going to the quick wash places as they usually use high acid solution cleaners? Any advice would be great.
Would love to see you do a comparison between Bilt Hamber and Gtechniq W6. W6 is extremely potent, you should give it a try if you haven’t already.
Bilt Hamber are my go to brand for car cleaning, but i do buy Maguire's products too & 303 products
The pinkish/purple meguiers rim clean is an excellent degreaser. The red bottle chrome rim cleaner will eat chrome if you arent careful
I use the pink meguiers for engine cleaning, suspension cleaning really anything greasy.
Does anyone have tips for treating and/or avoiding orange brake discs??
Is this korrosol with a different label!? 🤔...
Great review as always. Cheers John
Bilt Hamber is quite caustic where zinc plated brake callipers and brake disk hubs are concerned. Regular use will result in the aforementioned components suffering from unsightly corrosion and rust!
Another great video. As a recent Autobrite user I’d find it interesting to see how their latest Purple Rain 3.0 gel product would compare. It’s not the cheapest but is another UK brand to compete!
Hi Jon, you've done it again........ I've gone and purchased BH auto wheel cleaner 😉
Yes the BH is cheaper, but you also pay £5 delivery. Where the Meguiars i can call into Halfords and pick it up when i do my weekly shop.
Ok, i could buy either off Amazon and get free delivery, except the BH is £4 more expensive on Amazon as it is direct from BH.
In fact at the moment, Meguiars is £11.60 (minus 10% Blue Light discount) and BH is £17.90 delivered.
Having tried ",loads" of wheel cleaners over the years.. done good and done rubbish...
I still come back to Auto Wheels...
It is the best and if you buy in 5 litre drums it's even better value
Cracking video as always!! Should these be avoided on alloys that are ceramic coated?
So I’ve been using the maguires stuff. Does a fantastic job of clearing the crap off your wheels. So what do I do to keep the brake discs clean? Start the car, floor it. Brake hard. Reverse, floor it brake hard. Discs are shiny every time. Yet I’ve just ordered a bottle of boot hamber 😂
Love these comparison videos John
Expected the result, bilt hamber is top drawer
I tend to use sufex HD at 10%, then finish with a small amount of this, it lasts and there is not much grime left for it. A great finish on the wheels that way 💪
At 1:10 dilution, Koch Chemie Greenstar works as good as Surfex as a wheel cleaner. I bought Greenstar as I was sold on its mild rust-inhibiting content for brakes, suspension, metal valve stems et al.
For me bang for buck is Turtle Wax Redline. Can get it for around £10 per litre if you look about. Very good results., would be good to compare this to Bilt hamber. I'm reluctant to change from the Turtle wax because I honestly think it is that good
I've noticed that Meguiar's Iron Decon gives much closer results to the Bilt Hamber. It lights up immediately, doesn't take much product, and really breaks down the dust. All Wheel is fine, but it's nowhere near as strong. But then again Iron Decon ain't exactly cheap either 😅 (can't get BH here in the US)
Megs prices in the US are strong.. In the UK like others have said some stuff is alarmingly expensive. I think you can alienate markets very rapidly if your prices get too high. £16 pounds for 709ml of this product. This is a problem and its something I have to cover in reviews even if its a bit of a negative.
Meguiar's is around $25.00 AU, but i have used Bowdens wheel cleaner, also Meguiar's retail products do no compare price wise at all compared to pro products ie: car pro iron x and others, but more importantly the spray bottle nozzle sprays in a foam like spray, yet others come out like a small mist like sprey, so i got a normally old adjustable spray nozzle bottle and got 3 times car wheels use out of it, compared to the two times or 8 wheels with the meguiers nozzle spray bottle?
Awesome video, just wondering are you able to use BH Autowheels on body paintwork?
Great as always Jon. Something worth mentioning, it's not really your opinions, it's your experience that you're sharing in this video. There's a difference between them and experience sits way higher on the believability scale and that's what I appreciate with the videos you do. Keep up the excellent work!
Would Auto Wheels be good enough to use as a wheel cleaner as a stand alone? With agitation and pressure washer - or would I need a wheel shampoo too?
autowheels is a very potented and very powerfull wheel cleaner.. yes use it on its own... the arguement is that autowheels is prolly too powerfull and too expensive to use every wash. USe surfex HD at 10:1 if you are washing and maintaining the wheels well. And then autowheels once every few months. Dont spray autowheels on calipers or disks (or just minimise spraying it on those areas)
@@ForensicDetailing thanks for your reply! This makes complete sense, I was looking at Surfex HD as a wheel cleaner but I didnt know if it was powerful enough. Ill get the auto wheels and dilute it down i reckon to make it more cost effective.
Front rotors tend to have more brake dust than rear. But overall great video.
I bought & used Maguires and was impressed. When it ran out I decided to try BH instead as seen your reviews on their products.
I think the BH is better. My reasons are it’s cheaper & I don’t think you need as much.
the speed of the reaction of this product is unrivalled. but it also just seems to do a better job cleaning out and breaking down the dirt in the wheel. its an incredible product. The icing on the cake is its considerable cheaper as well. I have a lot of trust and respect for megs but its out gunned here.
Bilt Hamber v Red 7 . Which would you say works better ? Im in need of some now my Red 7 has run out , its lasted ages but I have been happy with it BUT if the Hamber is a better product I will get some of this instead
So in the US you can find Meg's all wheel cleaner for just $8.47 or 6.47 in pounds at the current exchange rate. Even with that lower price though I don't think it would have won. Too bad they don't sell BH products here in the US. 😭
HS-tuning dot com has some products of BH in the US. Think it's another company that has started to take them in but don't remember where it was. It where a quite new detailing shop.
Megs is classed as a premium product here. Cheapest I can find it today in the UK is $15 at today's exchange rate.
Lol @ the random second camera angle, bicep day earlier was it? 🧐
Hi, is it safe to use alloy wheel fall out remover on car paint work or would it cause damage to paint?
Your looking much healthier lately bro
First of all I'd like to thank you for charing your experience and knowledge.
I would like to see a video where you show the impact of using different compunds with different pads and maybe even different machines. Not an overly extensive video but perhaps one cutting compund and one finishing compound and teaming them up with one microfibre pad, one wool pad, one hard foam pad and one finishing pad. If there is a difference, maybe a roatary and a da polisher.
How much would a microfibre pad cut with a finishing compund or how much would a finishing pad cut with a cutting compund?
For me it would be interesting to se how much the different components affects the result.
less impact from the pad than you would think Codriver. But its very hard to demo this. you would just be looking at footage but not knowing the impact. think cutting pad foam.. your asking it to do more, theres more resistence when trying to cut with heavy abrasives because theres more friction, more debry being removed, so pad needs to be stiffer to cope and pores needs to be bigger to cope with more residue coming out. more heat build up, sometimes more pressure being applied. So stiffer coarser pad can be beneficial. its more about using the optimal vehicale for transport the abrasives.. the misconception is its the pad that has "cut" etc..
Okay so I’m going to get some Bilt Hamber auto wheels. Can I use that all over the car or do I need to get something like AutoGlym magma?
I would also wonder which one is safer, maybe showing quicker reaction more powerful etc, but what area the longer term effects n the wheels
the strength of the reaction of the TGA has no bearing on the effect to harm the wheels. Due to the nature of the chemistry. The TGA only reacts on rust FE2o3 and it alters rust into a purple iron thyiogycolic (sp?_ oxide which is soluabe in water at the point of reaction. the TGA portion does not degrade clearcoat.
That’s good information thanks 👍
Can this be used on black bmw alloys ? Specifically 19inch M Star Spoke? Will the black come off?
yes just dont let it dry and keep it on the alloy, away from the brake disks and calipers (pads really)