Brittany Bost You accepted subutex though. If used properly, subutex can save your life. And if you think getting clean from pills and shooting dope on your arm is the same as taking subutex or Suboxone, then you’re ignorant. I got my life and family back on subutex/Suboxone. A lot of people will be on it for the rest of their lives, and that is absolutely ok because it saved them. There’s no miracle drug, but if there’s something out there that’s going to make me stay off the street and not high on dope for days and my family hating me, then I’ll do it. If it saves them, then so be it. Everyone thinks everyone is the same and has to be completely a saint with no type of pill keeping them going just so they can be considered “clean”. And that’s wrong. If you abuse subutex, that is simply mental because all you’re trying to do is chase that high so maybe you’re jus not ready.
@@Omerta._ I never shot dope before in my life , for one . And for 2 its harder to get off subutex than it is pills . I never said anything bad other than it's a replacement. You dont know shit about me or my life yet wrote a comment full of assumptions and judgments. Glad you got off the dope tho lmfao
Hey y'all if anyone's still referring to this video for advice on sub withdrawal, just know that the experience is different for everyone. I honestly feel great and I'm on day 3 myself. I jumped off at a little less than .25 mg and I believe that was a huge part of my success thus far. Just hit the gym when you feel like you need some sub. Get a vitamin that increases endorphins naturally as well as a good B-complex vitamin. I still have the mental battle like most of us but just keep that shit out of your thoughts and replace it with an activity you love. Make yourself do as much cardio as you can. Lean on peeps for support and work with a good doc. I took .50 of a benzo for anxiety at night and that's helped too, but be careful with them. Only use them temporarily. I was fuckin terrified a month ago and now I'm kicking myself in the ass for not doing it sooner. I took subs for 9 years.... You got this guys!! 💓💪 Great vid brother!
Shawna Lynne Hi how’s it going if you see this I was just curious what regimen you used and what you taper down to just how it went any side effects or any tips that would be great to hear because I’m getting close I take a half of 8 mg every 24 hours sometimes I forget actually almost skip a day and my girlfriend takes a quarter of a strip where I want to try to go down to a sliver go to the ocean cause I live in the mountains. One pretty amazing thing I would say about Suboxone is how they takes away all cravings and what not have any of you experienced know when you quit the Suboxone did those cravings come back and triggers and what not and obviously it’s all in the mind but I just appreciate all you’ll sharing ur Experiences and opinions and I want to get off anyhow. But my most all the doctors don’t except Medicaid now so my script is like $500 instead of three it’s just ridiculous
How did u feel? I’m on my last 2 mg of subutex and coming off this month, I’m so scared, coz I already feeling quite rough, and it’s only gonna get worse 😭
He’s so right about withdrawal is mainly worse on the mental aspect. I got threw my first 80 hours by continuously putting positive thoughts in my head with all my negative energy. For instance, i kept having negative thoughts and I used those negative thoughts to think about how terrible it would be if I was in a cell rather than in a bed . I kept putting myself to short naps by constantly telling myself that it’s going to be okay, it will get better, it could of been worse, and that I am as comfortable as I possibly could be. This allowed to calm down my anxiety and allow me to sleep and deal with physical pains and finally get threw day 3. And yes even with the help of subs one I was in bed with withdrawal symptoms for 3 days. It just extremely cushioned the blow when it finally kicked in.
You said there was no physical withdrawal from long term opiate use, you sir are a lucky man. It is clinically proven that physical withdrawal is real !
I’ve been on it for 10 years after a bad oxy habit. I take an 8mg film a day. 5 days ago I had this idea to see if I could just take half of it. It wasn’t until tonight that I realized I’m actually feeling withdrawals. I got scared at first thinking I had corona virus. My nose was runny & I had shortness of breath! Then I Laid down & My skin was crawling & I started Flopping like a fish! I just took the other half because I just can’t deal. I never thought splitting it in half would cause all this.
@@GreatMindsSeekTruth yeah don’t go from 8 to half try 1 milligram at times also it’s a lot easier if you take once a day I always tell people on here take it one do not take it 3 times a day or twice ! Once is enough and gives you advantage to stop easier or reduce easier
It’s amazing how the mind can create symptoms that aren’t there, most of the stories about methadone or suboxone being harder to come off is from people who didn’t taper slowly enough. There is no escape of some withdrawals but it can be manageable if you go slow , it’s not a race , exercise, drink lots water and nutrition
Yeah I’m on day 4 and I’m starting to feel better. I just couldn’t sleep, no motivation, and sore legs and back. That’s about it. I jumped off at under 1mg
I was on 16mg for over a year and took about 9 months to wean off and the WD was a picnic compared to regular opiate medications-Slow, slow,SLOW! Why rush? at the end I was taking almost silly amounts that were crumbs but so what? I'm back on subutex I get from a pain clinic in fact the only opioid medication they prescribe is subutex. Besides being out of pain, I feel no different taking subutex then when I was off. Actually think it helped my mild depression.
Chem sky Programming the sleeping seems to be the worst part of it for everyone. For whatever reason, when I'm working long hours I can quit very easily, when I'm at home... I have too much time to think about the aches and pains
Yeah, there is definitely a physical aspect - especially noted, the heavier the opiate your coming off of. I quit methadone a year ago, and I simply cannot imagine a more intolerable senario. Currently I am getting off the suboxone. I dropped at 6mg, and used the imodium in higher doses to subdue WD which, I might add, it does very well. Imodium aka. loperamide, will douce WD entirely given the right dose, but beware - as most will tell you - its not for long term use. It builds up in your fat and once it reaches a critical level there, you will begin to get heart problems. But speaking of RLS - the RLS i experienced when coming off methadone was definitely not imagined, lol, and I laugh to think of it as such. Actually the RLS is a mild seizure, and they have even found seizure meds for epileptics to help with peoples RLS symptoms while WDing heavy opiates. \Neurontin comes to mind, although i could not convince my own DR. to prescribe it to me. But just a final note to all those who want to get off the methadone or any other opiate. there is a program in Northern Ontario -Elliot Lake - called the Oaks. They are the only program in Canada (ya, Im not sure if they take americans, but they just might, if they do your stay will have to be paid and not govt sponsored. As Canadian, if your poor, it will be covered under OHIP) its the only program of its kind in all Canada It is specifically a detox for opiate users. Its a three week stay, unlike most other detox centers who kick you out after like 5 days, thus making it ideal for those wanting to get off opiates, some of which can take a c ouple weeks or more. It is a medical detox, and suboxone therapy may be used in order to get someone off the methadone. Not alot of people know about it so I want to give them a plug.In this current time of opiate crisis, we need more and more centers like this one. I am stupified actually that the govt claims we are in a n opiate crisis, and yet you have but a single center appropriate to get off heavy opiates funded in all Canada. Just google the oaks in elliot lake if interested. they specialize in getting people off opiates especially the methadone.
Chem sky Programming I experience restless arms and chest, yah it sucks.Combined with the legs ,I swear its almost like the more I learn the more symptoms I have .
Have you ever heard Tramadol? That med could drove away the pain. I can guarantee you 100% will works and give you high too. But be careful not to use it for too long. The withdrawal symptom for suboxone is mostly two weeks. I think you can use Tramadol for help. Remember just for two weeks use because it has heroin-like chemical in that med.
Tapering down to .5 mg every other day and being ready is 90 percent of the battle. If you can beat the mental obsession the physical discomfort from jumping at a low dose will be nothing. Multi vitamins, dlpa avoid caffeine of stimulates of any kind otherwise the anxiety and restlessness will worsen. If you want it ,its yours. It's just a question of how bad and what you are willing to do for it. Preparation is everything and with a proper taper there is little to no discomfort.. stay out of your head and goodluck!!!
I didn’t experience physical withdrawal but I went down to 0.25mg a day then 0.25mg every 2 days then stopped. I’m glad it worked out for you! Namaste 🙏🏻
It's a very low dose so it's doesn't effect that much .I was on 6mg of bupernorphine a day .my withdrawals were like going to hell anyways namaste from india
I'm currently on 6-8mg a day, I'm going to do what you guys did, for sure. I keep hearing horror stories, but they tend to come from people who were jumping off a mg a day. The method you mentioned seems to be the most successful, and I can't wait to be free from sub hell. Thank you for your comment. I'm finally ready to do this 100%.
That is so awesome! You should be very proud of yourself! Withdrawal from drugs is about the worst kind of pain there is & you can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel! But you did it! I also commend you for knowing your body & brain the way you did the detox! That is great, most folks on drugs don’t have a bit of insight into their own being!!! I just want to say to you Superior job well done! It wasn’t a walk in the park but i’m Sure you have given much hope to many!!!!
I respect the hell out of you man. I’m pretty much the same age & build as you. But, I’ve been on suboxone for 6 years & I want to quit so bad. I started out getting 2 a day for 2 years but only ever took 1 & a half a day. I went down to 1 a day for 3 years. Then 3/4 a day for 6 moths. & lastly I’ve only been getting 15 strips a month (half a day) for about 8 months. But Iv been taking less than that a day about for 4 months. I tied to quit last week by stretching out my last 2 strips by making it last a week. But the 3rd day after having no subs left I couldn’t handle the symptoms & anxiety. I ended up going back to my doctor for another month supply to try & keep weening off. You give me hope & confidence that I can do it. Going try what you said. Take as little as possible for a while for several months then try to stop again.
Hey man, thanks for sharing your story. It’s awesome to hear when someone successfully rids buprenorphine from their life. I have been on subutex for 6 years with one unsuccessful attempt to get off of it. I was able to taper down to .25 mg a day. The first day was fine. The first night was fine. The second day was fine. It was the second night that it started. I had such bad restless leg syndrome. I didn’t experience any other withdrawal symptoms that I would normally expect to get. I weined myself down to such a low dose that I didn’t have any physical withdrawal. The restless leg at night kept me up for a month straight until I went back to the doctor and got back on subutex. It’s a shame that I got as far as I did. Watching your video is inspiring me to give it another go. Hope you’re still doing alright man. Thanks for your video.
Always remember you are in charge of your body your mind no matter what and tell yourself each day that it's so worth it even if your feeling like shit. You can do this put your mind to it. Try Kratom it truly does work but don't stay on it long it does take all symptoms away. Good luck you can beat this once a for all. Sending you strength. 🙏🏻💖💖💯💯💯
This vid has given me the push. I thank you for existing lol. Hawaii is my favorite place in the world and this whole thing is nuts that I came across your vid when I needed it the most. 👊🏻💪🏻💯❤️🙏
How's it going for you are u seeming down now I'm on day 11 here...a little tired but I'm basically off it now....if you want some advice feel free to sent me a message
This makes so many people who are in the exact same position, just as terrified as you were, feel SO much better. Thank you so much for posting this video. I have been clean from everything since June 2017, but I have been in a MAT program ever since I got clean & stopped using opiates. My girl and I are about to start coming off suboxone after being on it for 4 years, we are terrified but SO ready to live a normal life. Again, thank you for this video.
Guys you are so right about pleading the blood of Jesus over yourselves , yes it works cause all it is spirits they are strong so you really need to mean it , and say with authority you will be set free
If I had 1 dollar for every addict that talks about God and Jesus.People do drugs because they are irrational, they do religion for the very same reason,so it's kind of a natural transition from one bullshit to another.
@@Somnivers You're an asshole... if that's what helps people and gets them off drugs that destroy their lives and will DEFINITELY kill them sooner or later... what the hell do you care??? Why do you have to come on here and be dick about it and try to make people feel stupid and if you could you'd take that away from them. For a lot of people it's the ONLY thing that keeps them clean, and if that's the case WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU WANT THEM TO STOP BELIEVING IT!? Doing drugs harms not only the addict themselves, but TONS of people around them, causes crimes, fucks society/cities up, etc. etc. and you want to come on here and mock people for the one thing that keeps them on the right path. You're a miserable dick head. You're miserable, apparently, so you want everyone else to be too or something.
You can only be receptive to the Lord’s salvation after you’ve sacrificed your finest crop and most prized livestock to Jesus. Until then you are just dancing with the devil.
WEED HELPS!!. Well it's helped me before and I'm coming off subs again and it helps with nausea and keeps your mind off of it, also there's a 50/50 chance it helps with anxiety, it helps me sleep but some days it makes my anxiety worse.
I am medicating with weed, right now.Xanax and stuff like that-i don't like that chemical stuff, i had enough of that, it makes me moody and even more unhappy
Good shit man. I did this very same thing on the strips my first time, and am tapering down on the lowest possible amount. The Fiance kicked it really quick doing the same thing with minimal discomfort. You're spot on...people listen to this guy.
I loved your video I’m currently tapering off subutex myself I’ve been on them for 9 years originally it did help me kick heroin but I, like you, was extremely hesitant to start tapering but this time it just felt right and I as well have been digging into “conspiracy theory” and spirituality as well as how we can manipulate our realities and it made me so happy hearing you talk about secrenicities and stuff I hope you’re doing well and wish me luck please I’m down to a fourth a day and next week I will be doing a fourth one day and an eighth the next and I will do that for two weeks before I taper down to an eighth daily and then after two weeks of that I will do an eighth one day and the next day I’ll do nothing and I will do that for two weeks and then I will go cold turkey thank you for the tips like coconut water, and for the support god bless
Yeah what I guess. Hey can he bring my best friend back that died of a heart attack at 30? Ohoh or maybe he can he can help out with me being of the subs for a week and still shitting my brains out and can't even help with my 4 year old daughter. Oh he can't? Stfu
@@dmvjpeg assuming Jesus is really god, I highly doubt he would (or any god would) have those abilities. Lol wtf kind of god are you thinking of? You must watch good movies or play crazy fantasy games. Anyhow “god” isn’t about to help anyone. We have to help ourselves and we have to do all the work. When you’re done doing the work then you can take credit or give credit to sky daddy.
To hell with the labels or titles. God is God. Regardless of any label or title. Its Feb. 2019 and i'm starting this battle today. Thanks for inspiring me. God bless you.🙏😊👍
Seeing this comment from over a year ago brings me joy. As of late, I take a very small amount of white veined Maeng da kratom twice a day with zero(0) side effects. No withdrawal. No cravings. No expensive trips to a doctor's office and pharmacy for a drug my mind/body becomes addicted to. Today, i'm free, and most importantly, i'm "ME" again. Anyone who's suffering with this can get away from it. You can overcome. You can regain your freedom and health. Anyone who wants information or helpful details, please reach out to me. Suboxone is a stepping stone away from addiction. Not a permanent solution. God bless everyone.💜🙏☺👍
@@anfrankogezamartincic1161 I respectfully disagree my friend. He's more present than ever when we're at our lowest point of suffering. I too thought that he abandoned me when I was craving, withdrawing, and dopesick. I was wrong. Just hit your kness and pray, he'll show you his presence. God bless you brother.💜🙏👍
Thank you for this video. I'm 6 days in cutting myself back and I'm doing it pretty quick because I'm so sick of this shit. But I truly believe in the law of attraction and a higher power and I've seen a complete difference in when I tried to quit last time with a different mindset. As u said u still need to stay highdyrated, eat right, and take otc meds, and most importantly you need to have the right set of mind. Our brains our very powerful.
Thanks for the video, this really cleared my head. I'm currently in 24 hr detox, tapered down to .20mg , but the anxiety just gets me bad, hearing and seeing your recovery is amazing dude hope you're doing good!
Brooke Lynn Barlow ...Hey how'd that go for you? I'm taking .66 now and plan on going to about .20mg like you did. I was wondering how cutting down to that low of a dose worked out for you?
@@JM-ie5bp Hey I'm asking the same question you asked a year ago. I'm about to do the same, do ya have any update? I'd appreciate any insight. Thank you
this guy has the perfect mindset. thats what you need to get and stay sober. im going thru suboxone treatment and i only hope itll be this easy for me in the future
Thank you for sharing, I’m also currently going on my tapers- made a couple videos to try and help other people cause of the horror stories! So again thanks for sharing this and the positivity and hope you give others!
Mario Andreano right?! I have the attention span of about 2 seconds for ANYTHING when I’m in sub withdrawal. When I’m in the shower is when I do the closest thing to “meditate”... but even that is just leaning my head against the shower wall with my eyes closed from pure exhaustion & making the most out of my moment of comfort before I get back outta the 5th shower I’ve taken that day.
That's called titration, which is the prescribed method of getting off of opioids. And the symptoms are certainly physical as well as mental. There's really no question about that. And yes, one can get physically dependant on immodium, but that's different from addiction. Thanks for your tips, and congratulations for being clean!
Your sooo young, good lookin guy, and have your whole life ahead!!! KEEP YOUR SOBRIETY FIRST, ATTEND MEETINGS ETC and you can do this!!!! As long as you never take the mentality of "Oh I got this!"Because that exact attitude will put you right into a relapse! Good luck, and just remember 1 thing....."IF YOU AREN'T WORKING ON YOUR RECOVERY, THEN YOUR WORKING ON A RELAPSE!!" Best Wishes!!
I'm on day 2 coming off subutex. I did the same thing letting my intake diem to a crumb of the pill for the last month. I'm definitely swetting a bit and getting some chills with mild anxiety. Thank you Brother for your tips. Going to get some imodium now. And yes spirituality is the key. That's the only reason I have enough faith and trust this time. Cheers brother. Upward and onward
U can get off anything with God's help. He got me off 18 years of shooting dope and 1 year of fentanyl... 11 months of 90 mg methadone... Even got me off cigarettes, 30 years of alcohol gone too... Trust me God is good.
God isn’t for everyone most defiant for me I can just quit doing fentanyl and just pray and pray for him to take my wds away it doesn’t work like that I don’t believe that praying and reading the bible and going to church is gonna take my addict mind away whatever floats your boat brother and but u can just say god works for everyone
@@dboybooks2739 listen ur being deceived if u think that... Proverbs 3:5 trust in the Lord with all ur heart, and lean not on ur own understanding. John 11:22 but even I know that whatever you ask of God, God will give u. Listen it took me 13 rehabs 5 stints in jail and 1 prison term and 2 psych wards to finally ask God for His help... I was even getting high in rehabs and jail. I finally allowed God to do for me what I couldn't do myself. Here I sit 22 months later clean sober and with a sound mind.. I don't wake up wondering who I'm robbing or what I'm stealing, and my sleep is pure now.. Is God is for anyone who wants Him... Wish u well on ur journey and God bless.......
Has our back? Do you not realize the evil-ish horrors of what goes on in this world. People suffering all over. Even the ones that pray. Stop crediting some make believe character for the things you accomplish with your own strength.
I can't thank you enough for sharing your tips and experiences with us! I hope you know that just the fact that your sharing your story is definitely helping others!! You're truly an inspiration, thank you so very much, I can't even begin to tell you how much it helps that you are sharing your experience and advice!! Great job and thanks again!!! I hope that all is well with you and your recovery, you've definitely been an inspiration and it's really a beautiful thing!
bullsi20 Well congratulations, every day is a huge step in the right direction!! My drug of choice was vicodin 10mg and benzos. I have degenerative bone disease and spinal stenosis, amongst many other health issues. My meds got pulled because I smoke marijuana, which my Dr knew for 6yrs. I can definitely relate when you say you're trying not to go into full dread mode! I hope you know that you really should be proud of yourself and proud of every single day that you don't use!! People don't give themselves enough credit for even a day. I always say all we can do is take it one day at a time . Thank you so much for responding and chatting with me about this it really means a lot!! I'm grateful to have gotten to speak to another inspirational person such as yourself!! Never forget you're not alone, anytime you ever feel like talking, or venting, lol, feel free to hit me up. Best of luck to you my friend, you'll be in my thoughts through this battle we are facing and enduring!
I believe this man. Been on suboxone for 11 years. The last 7 years or so I've been on a bit less that a 2mg strip a day. I take small peices of a strip 3 times a day. I noticed that when I'm busy and not thinking about it I don't remember to take a dose. Then as soon as I think about it I start feeling like I need to. I also suffer from anxiety very badly and have been trying to beat it naturally for a long time, don't want to take more drugs. Recently I started praying, I've never been really religious although I was brought up catholic in the 80s and 90s as a kid. I have noticed my anxiety is not as bad the next day when I pray the night before, so much in my brain tells me that is bullshit but nevertheless it's seemed to work. So I think I know what you mean by being spiritual vs being tied to religion. I want to get off of subs and I don't want to ever go back to using opiates. Just so scared of the journey fucking up my job and life.
You are an inspiration. It takes alot to get clean off something you take daily and finds its way into your bones . To some extent you feel safe when taking this medicine because you know its the reason your clean and finally doing well for yourself. Question yourself what would happen if you relapse ? Well its simple , mind over matter.. you got to love yourself and how far youve come and thats when you can safely get off the maintenance. Your pretty awesome for coming this far
I was told if u buy imodium, only buy non generic liquid. It does help. Also get to a very low dose than do every other day, every two days, till u don't need anymore. It's hard to cut back when u have 30 subs in your drawer. Sub detox makes opiate detox seem like nothing. It's tough, but worth it
Thank you brother. I've been tapering for quite a while now. I've been on my last 8mg strip for 3 weeks now and I've been skipping days and still have probably another week or more left. I literally take a sliver in the morning. Today is the 3rd day that I'm skipping a day. One day on one day off. Guessing I'm at 0.25mg or less right now. Might try skipping two days this time. I love your spirituality outlook as I feel the same and hearing your words about it being about the anxiety rings true. Just gotta keep going and never look back. When it's gone I won't allow myself to get more. Wish me much luck although I have faith that I won't need it. 🙏Much love
Whats amazing is, is that we can pray about this and god will handle the rest. Once the seed is planted, you cant unplant it. That "synchronicity" is your higher powers will for you brother, thats gods will
Dude some people are tougher than others. I’m one of those people. There are side affects from coming off this shit. Oxys were way worse than subs for me. Appreciate the positive message. It’s not so much mental as you say but there are physical symptoms for sure. Take care
Ahh man good for you! I was on suboxone 4 years, and have been on subutex the last 2 years(it's cheaper without insurance for generic subutex). Stopping heroin was the hardest thing I've ever done, but for some reason quitting the subutex scares me even more. I outgrew partying and other drug use that was recreational(rave drugs, etc)/borderline habitual(adderall/vyvanse). With all that stuff, and even the heroin actually, it was pretty easy once I'd made up my mind to let it go. But the suboxone was always there since the dope, it literally saved me and gave me back my life. I haven't been able to get myself under a 1/4 sub a day yet. I guess I need to just bite the bullet. Another issue is not being able to move for the foreseeable future and being surrounded by people taking it, so even if I managed to stop I would know where to get it easily. Congratulations tho man :) I hope I can say I left it behind some day soon too!!
I'm right there with you buddy ive done heroin and even fentanyl hardcore for a year. After that I've been on a quarter of sub a day for a few months. Use to do a half a day by nose because it hit harder but went down to quarter a day. Going to try to ween down to a 16th eventually and jump from there. If you can ween to a 8th and half for a week, then 8th for a week, then 16th for a week. After that a 16th every other day for two weeks and jump withdrawals should be minimal. I'm a smoker since I live in Colorado so the smoking will help with the minimal withdrawal left. Should take about 3 full months for our brains to go back to normal before we did sub. If you decide to stay on that's fine to because I'm unsure myself. Hope everything works out!
Love love love your outlook and anchor you have set for yourself. I have to say that I was on Suboxone for 4 years got off March of 2017 and the stigma and the placebo effect of professionals telling people they'll be so sick is really what is making addiction happening right now it is hard but if you put your mind to it it can be done it's just people telling you that you can't I've been sober since March 17th I love your outlook Hawaii rules cheers to you
from my experience it was hard to get below 2mg but once i got down to 0.5mg it was all mental. its been a month ans i still struggle with low energy ,little anxiety ,unmotivated but im sleeping better now. the key is to taper so you dont hurt physically ,supplement ,eat right ,exercise ,go for a run /walk ,get some sun ,meditate/pray and most off all stay mentally positive and be patient. the brain takes a while to heal all its receptors and everyone is different. comfort meds help as wel as counceling , kratom can be your best friend but use it wisely :)
Christian Valverde.. you look like you work out did you notice that you gained weight when you stopped taking it im still on subs but have been working out the last few months and I have gained weight but have capped off at 220 for minute and also I have been tapering as well I take less than half of a half of an eight milligram strip and it is extremely difficult to go any lower I think a big reason for that is that I keep it under my tongue for at least an hour or more sometimes before I spit it out if you don't mind me asking how long did you hold it under your tongue when you were taking it I really believe that is why I can't seem to go any lower
How are you doing? Is it day 23 yet!? Even if not, its not for nothing. So many extra opiod receptors will have "died off" already. Im sure youre killing it though! Good luck...staying happy and active is key and you seem like youve got it
you haven't done them long enough if you think there mentally..trust me your young ,you bounce back fast ,wasn't til I was older i couldn't stop withdrawal..good for you man glad you did ..:) im working on it
I'm on 4mgs from 8. I weaned only half in 3 years. I'm going to try and lower to 2mgs for a week then 1mg for another week etc untill I don't have to take any. Then just deal with the rest until I'm ok again. I know it's gonna suck , but if I keep my mind busy I think I'll be ok. Wish me luck !
Taper down to .5 mg a day for how ever long it takes you to get ready to jump off. ( I was on .5 mg for 3-4 months) But when I quit, I had basically 0 physical withdrawals. But I did have the intense, worst cravings I’ve ever had. But everyday the joneses got less and less. And after 8-9 days, I was doing OK. And after 2 weeks I was back to normal! Good luck to anyone kicking a habit. I quit after 15 years of use, and did it with 70 8 mg strips still in my bag. ( it made it easier for me quitting with a stockpile to fallback on if things didn’t go as planned) It feels damn good to not be a slave to a pill or a slither of a strip. 👍
Good video man congrats hope your still killing it with staying clean. I’ll let you no how this works out for me right now I’m at a very low dose less than a quarter of an 8 mg strip. I tried going cold turkey today and it was horrible. Thanks for the video an again I’ll check back in 🤙🏼
"First" Find someone to talk to. Dont stop talking and never ever lie especially to yourself. If you're like me: Basically 1 minute you want to talk and next minute you dont want anyone to see you in this manner. Well man/woman up and talk. Thats the best start anyone can do. "Second":This dude up top found his anchor and it worked for him. Just find what works for you and never lie to yourself about yourself. Hope you didnt even need to read this. Enjoy.
@Rrok Daragjati Yeah I hear ya about the sensitivity with smells, omg taste and all other sensors. Took me a long time to come to my own terms with mental. Im with ya on the physical part. But every time I forgave myself or talked I just felt better physically. (Dont have to read after this point). ty. First time ive said this "If my doctor way back when lied and told me I had a bad flu virus Id never had gone through such a rough time". Docs dislike it when I say this. But to a ton of us that got hurt military wise, civi work wise or an accident. We dont know what addict or withdrawals truly is. I had 0 experience with drugs until I got hurt. Most of us trusted our doctor and now were labeled as addicts or its our fault for listening. The nerve. Anyway, If someone had the balls to just lie and say I had a very bad case of the flu. That mental imprint alone on a subconscious level. I truly believe it wouldve worked and had saved me years to actually live instead of hitting the pause button. But then the ethics argument comes in. Yeah now they care about it all a sudden. kk enjoy man.
@Rrok Daragjati Well you just earned my respect. Hope it works out for ya. As for me Im good now but am alone. Well hope one of us catch a break. Enjoy.
But if there was another easier way, someone would have figured it out by now. Maybe it’s the only answer. And maybe spirituality is not what you assume it is
Thank u. My husband n I are going threw what u went threw. We moved from md to Florida. We took our last script to cut down n get off with us. Were gonna try what u said. Thank u. U gave us a lil more hope. We also have been on sub for 3yrs. We r so done n ready. We don't drink nothing. We love life. Life is precious. We have lost so many ppl to drugs.
Suboxone withdrawal was the absolute worst thing ever and I’ve had four children, being a mom of a child who is 5 who needs me, it was literally so painful, my dr had me on a very high dose and it seriously was so hard. I was crying every day, shaking, my body felt like it was being ripped apart from the inside out. I could barely move. Just the thought of running out gives me anxiety
I've been on buprenorphine for 5 years. I've been on a half tablet forever. I have the rest of this script and 1 more month of script and that's it. My doc retired but I'm not getting on with another doc. I'm quitting. I'm so nervous. My hubby is feeling like absolute shit! Lol. But he's doing it hardcore. My will power isn't as strong. I'd like to taper down the right way and have minimal withdrawal. I'm excited to be off this shit. The anxiety is terrifying!
I’ve been thinking about this whole sub detox, taper, withdrawal. This guy is 100% real about what needs to be done and his advice is on point. Suck it up, take some responsibility and go through whatever needs to happen to get clean. Be patient and stick to a plan. If it’s a slow taper to a very low dosage it WILL work. It’s gonna take as long as it needs to take for your body to get back to normal. If you exercise and eat right it will speed it up. Don’t get me started on PAWS. I’m so sick and tired of hearing about this. People confuse every feeling you have after you stop taking it to PAWS. If you feel worthless get up and do something to make you feel productive. People confuse PAWS with real life. YOU have to do healthy things to create a healthy balance and feel good. You no longer take a chemical. The withdrawals suck. It all sucks. Take control of your life and get through it and DONT ever go back. I’ve been through this process. You don’t wake up one day feeling 100%. You work towards it. There isn’t a magic time or process that works for everyone. Stack the odds in your favor and exercise, eat right, water, vitamins and be gentle on yourself. Good luck to all. Love you!
you are getting smart ..your a lot younger than me and GOD is blessing you with wisdom.I hope you stay away from drugs from now on..I know you will be ok.I am 50 and bought into the whole suboxone thing and its all such crap!!
I'm on day 1 of sub withdraw and I'm already dying I was on subs for nearly 3 years.....this is the worst. I was also prescribed 3 8mg strips a day and I was smart and started to taper myself off more and more.....but I'm still hurting for sure.
Hey, how's it going? That's how much I was prescribed over 4 years ago. How do you get past the shocks? Do you have these? It's like the shocks are the worst for me. I might be able to deal with other symptoms but these freakin shocks!? You get these?
@@mikecuev820 I may have symptoms of that shock you are referring to. Is it like where you awke quickly and your heart is pounding and blood pressure up? If u get this please let me know , thank u and keep up the great work!!
@@seans5008 yep exactly. So what are you on so far? I know this posting was a while back but I fucked up and got back on the shit again for about 3 months. I put myself through inpatient treatment and am now back on 3 strips a day. I tell you what though, I'm prescribed 3 a day but am really averaging 1-2 a day with the help of gabapentin. The gabby is helping along with the subs to keep me active and not dragging through my day. It has helped tremendously. You tried gabapentin with the buprenorphine yet? If not ask your doc to prescribe some to you. It definitely helps with cravings and gives you energy
been taking buprenorphine for 12 yrs now.... but when I stop My back hurts sooo much I just can't.... I'll never get thru work...it's a vicious cycle... Have to work, buy more buprenorphine to be able to work.... to buy more buprenorphine...to get thru work....lol
I've been on for the same amount of time as you. Over a decade. Crazy huh. I was prescribed 3-8 mg strips a day. That's insane. I'm down to a sliver a day just to control my shocks. If I can get through this, I'm golden. I hate being a slave to Suboxone or any substance for that matter. What if the shit hit the fan and all of a sudden we couldn't get our shit? That's what I'm scared of. I don't want to be a slave to Suboxone any more... Wish me luck! ☯️
Mike Cuev How are you doing now? After an oxy habit....It’s been 11 years for me. 5 days ago I took half of my reg 8mg dose. Tonight I panicked thinking I had corona. Runny nose, shortness of breath & constant yawning. I laid down, skin was crawling & I kept flopping around or stretching my body out to ease it. I then realized it must be from only taking the half dose. I wasn’t trying to quit, I just figured I could take less. I took my other half though because it wasn’t fun. Hey, at least it’s not corona! Lol
Christianity is not a religion it’s a relationship with GOD don’t listen to skeptics that never did research, Jesus Christ is the truth I got off drugs with no rehab no doctors just me and GOD and prayers, addiction ruined my family and GOD saved my life. Reprogram the mind body and spirit GOD will guide you not your inner self aka your Ego. It takes hard work and patience, positivity and faith.
That's great and all, but god didn't do it- you did. You just needed something to hold onto (nothing wrong with that, and it works) but don't thank god, thank yourself
Why is everyone AFRAID and full of FEAR to talk about God? Wow, He's your Creator. I have to find a real detox video, serious guys on 1mg, if I were on 1 I could come off also
I'm still on 1mg and can't seem to taper any lower... Two months ago, I was on 12mg (for almost two years). Was originally given Suboxone for Kratom "withdrawals" and the doc happily prescribed me 12mg, only to later find out both of those decisions were ass-backwards and INSANE. Long story short Suboxone withdrawal is 10x worse at least.
Because continuing this routine of chemical dependence is driving me absolutely crazy every second of my life now.... Can't go even a few minutes without just thinking about this BS. I'm over and done with it (psychologically speaking) and have been for about 6 months. I'm ready to jump, but I just can't with my own willpower and my doctor doesn't care (he's a Suboxone doc so all he wants to do is give me more). BTW, I don't think I'm stable and I honestly never have been since starting on the Subs, they've just kept me constantly "high" as in opiate-fog type high since day 1.
Sorry didn't know you were having a rough time, thought you got to 1mg and were able to hang. Here's the truth, I can't tell you, doctor can't tell you, because we're all different, but you WILL clean out. I highly recommend seeing a specialist, don't tell me you can't there are ways to get insurance, and some free centers. I did it without any problems, IT WAS HARD, but I just layed in bed one week drinking Kratom, cold Turkey and it worked. I also had Xanax and Immodium, that formula, but you know little uncomfortable, then put the brakes on the Kratom and was fine. With Kratom you have to prepare it right for maximum efficacy. God bless you brother, pray also, it helps.
rocknrollboise you just said exactly how I feel. I'm so ready to come off. I know the fog you speak about, it's makes me feel sucidal even though I wouldn't do that. Just gives me hardcore depression and stress. I hope for the best man let's get through this.
Awww shitttt... 3 months?!? Dang ive been on for 10 years now... Im currently at 4mg a day, but i have been down to 1mg a day but i fucked up... So im back at 4mg and working my way down. And yes withdrawl is absolutely physical... And mental.. You definitely feel the physical effects. My legs and arms shaking like a mother... No sleep, cold ass sweats, cant lay down cant stand up cant sit down.. But i am ready to be free of the chains bro! Thanks for the video bro! Hope and pray all is well for you!
Seriously the same reason I clicked on it. I'd be more than happy to hold this dude during his sleepless withdrawn nights. Are we bad people for objectifying a person in the midst of him trying to bear his soul and have a humane connectiveness with others? I dunno. But dear god don't show off bronzed and sculpted shoulders and expect me to hear or see anything else.
Been on suboxone for 5 years Since I was 19 and I’m 24 going on almost 25 Pretty terrified to come off of it Got a 4 1/2 year old I’m scared of the long term effects
Taylor Barrick you can do it!!! Stop wasting time, yr wasting time on all this thinking yr going to quit. Your ok. Keep busy keep busy. Do it for your son, i did.
you've been on it too long... you shoulda been on and off with in 1 year 6 months. I was addicted for 12 years and thats how long it took for me.. no withdraw because i tapered down every month towards the end
I agree with a lot of your points, a lot of it realy can be mental, thanks for the vid ive been debating when to get off them for years now. The last time i was getting off of heroin, i was going on vacation to the beach, i used my last 4 bags on my way there then a day and a half later i started taking subs, and i must admit i hardly had any withdrawals during the transition. I was shocked.
Ur hella fine AF! 😘 love hearing recovery stories... I have siblings currently dealing with drug addictions and I use TH-cam to help them because we can not afford no Intervention type rehab!! Love u!! Love that ur giving life a TRY! 😘😍
8yrs on subs, 2mg for 6months before jumping. Had insomnia day2- present (day8) and physical wd sucked for days2-5 and the physical wd symptoms did not stop until today, Which i do not even know how these videos came up i was watching stuff about time travel suddenly spiritual videos like people talking about how in near death they seen hell and people suffering and how intensely they suffered. And how it doesnt matter what you are on earth if you dont believe in jesus you will not go to heaven instead suffer horrible painful hopelessness for eternity. So i actually went to my window the sun shining on me and talked to god, i begged him to forgive me that i disowned him. And over n over these videos talked to me.Like actually hit chords with me and i always thought of these types of people as bullshit artists. I eventually came across a lady from my hometown preaching and talking about her drug abuse and how she practiced witchcraft and had a very bad childhood. Then my 5 yr old son comes into the house telling me he wants to take care of this dead bird down the street so it can go into heaven, and i have never talked to him about that, and i gave up on religion long ago. Anyway the gist of this is i definatly had a spiritual awakening today and it was very subtle but was real and relentless. I honestly believe if you need god or jesus, and you deep down ask for him, he will speak to you in time. As for my withdrawals today i went all day without being cold restless legs nothing but a lil back pain, hopefully no depression and anxiety and insomnia goes away but we will see. Also i forgot to add i looked up the preacher on facebook, i sent her a message idk why, and she responded back, said shes coming back to the hometown in ny tomorrow. She lives in NC. She wants to meet for coffee like 10 miles away. How crazy is that?
Joe Szyd I live in nc and I was just curious who the preacher is? I AM Christian however completely unaffiliated with any specific Church Or "Religion"..Just Try to Follow Jesus & LOVE as HE LOVES..
Joe Szyd are you still on track? That is a pretty synchronistic story. I truly believe you will get the help, or anything you need if you just ask for it and believe it will happen. I wish you the best man. The coffee doesnt matter as much as the signs of synchronicity from God and that you were able to see and interpret that sign.
I completely agree...I had no problem cutting down but that last 1mg (Sub) is what makes a world of difference. So as low as you can go as long as you can go is def key!
I know this was a year ago when you posted.. but I just wanted to share my testimony. I was on heroin for about a year.. this was my senior year of high school. At my graduation I was even dope sick. But anyways the summer of 2014 I made a decision that I was done being a shell of myself. I asked God to take away my withdrawals, even though I deserved every minute of my withdrawal from the sin I was committing, the next week I had no stomach pain, I wasn’t sweating, shitting or feel bad at all. I remember tanning and going to church and I was fine. But Being a sinful human on the 5th day my sister had me take a small dose of her suboxone. I have been on suboxone for the past 4 years. I am quitting now and I just want everyone to know that you can’t be lukewarm about it. It took me 4 years of kinda trying (always keeping on a low dose). I can make 1 strip last 1 week. But now I’m on such a low dose because i recently cut down to a crumb I can feel the symptoms but I honest don’t care which makes me a lot calmer about the whole thing. I’m doing this for myself as well as my future baby. I want a baby without suboxone. It’s a personally choice but if takes me not feeling the best for a couple months.. it’s well worth it. That’s all. God is great. Rebecca
Frank's world Then?? Who , or what created God? Someone or something had to make him? Not trying to tell you you wrong, but, I don't see how a God would let anyone go through these terrible wds!
How you doing now? I will run out and plan to quit this weekend. My son will be at my moms for 5 or so days. I have quit before, last year, same time. Lol. I was on it for 3 years then. Now I've just been on it since July. I'm ready, and plan on staying busy. I think it will be easier this time
R MAN I tried to taper, I feel like that's harder than just quitting. I was on about 2 mg. I had one klonipon, I have been taking about 3 neurotins a day. Magnesium and melatonin at night, which ain't helping me sleep. I've been through this countless times. Hopefully this is the last. It's definitely doable.
CrissyAnn Salinas Eh, I ain't sleeping, I feel like if I slept at night, I'd feel a lot better. I've been getting out during the day tho.... looking like death. Lol, but I'm holding up. There's more 'ok' moments, than the hard ones.
Are u taking anything to help with the withdrawl what mg did u jump off of or did u taper?Sorry for all the ?s I’m currently on suboxone myself have been for about 4-5 years and I’m just sick & tired it makes me sick taking yes at first it helped but of course all that has changed I just want off but truly scared some of the stuff I have read scares me too death!lol
Thank you for this video and THANK YOU even more for pronouncing Suboxone correctly 😂.Don’t know why most of the world pronounces it wrong . Tapering off of it is hard . I’ve done it before. It’s always nice to pick a time when you’re feeling happy and have time to rest . Of course I’ve been back on it for years now and need to try to taper again. Good for you tapering. I watched funny movies and did anything it took to make me laugh during taper . Did you notice you could laugh easier and feel things ya hadn’t felt in ages when you got free of sub ? I did . I miss laughing so easily 😂
How are you now? I think you are right.. a lot of it is your mind. This video helped me more than any other video I’ve watched. Hope you’re doing well.
Well, IF you were even taking suboxone, you just explained that you for one, didn't take much of it to begin with, which tells me you probably wasn't ever a full blown addict who was addicted to taking large amounts of opiates and also probably wasn't an addict very long. And you then explained how you tapered yourself down to pretty much not taking anything at all with your whole 1mg, which is the exact process of how a suboxone program works for people who wasn't addicts very long and is the whole damn reason you didn't have much withdraw symptoms or any at all. For people who have been addicts of opiates for a long time and addicted to taking a lot of opiates daily, it's gonna take them using way higher doses to start with and possibly have to use it for the rest of their lives to keep them from ever possibly using again because of opiates changing the brains chemistry so dramatically and makes a person's chances of relapsing A LOT higher. And if they do happen to decide to come off of it, it's more than likely gonna take them a lot longer than you supposedly did to ween off. Also, if a person is taking suboxone and takes a high dose and they decide to quit, they're gonna have ALL KINDS of withdraws and it's definitely more than just mentally. You said in your other video you like to research a lot. Well I believe you sound like you're trying to pretend you're whatever you researched about and trying to act like you went through them and trying to give advice. I mean, coming from someone who was am addict of opiates (Oxycotin) for 11 years and has taken Suboxone for 7 years, I can see right through your bullshit.
Mark Riley ....i was on 300mg of oxicodone a day when i got on suboxone, but i found out real quick 2 and half years anyways lol that i was trading one for something else. this suboxone is wicked though it sucks coming off no way around it.
Thanks a lot bro for all your help I know it's a Grace from our Lord and God that I found you I just left the doctor and I'm down from 16 mg to 8 mg and almost 1 year but I've only got 10 mg to make it 3 days for my refill and was starting to freak out a bit but you're helping me so much to realize that it's in my mind and that I've already got enough medication to make it I just needed a little will power and a brother I've not met face-to-face thank you and peace
It's HELL being held hostage by any drug it's the first thing in your morning and last at night .
Its hell when you don't even have a morning or night. When all the days just bleed into one.
Even "drugs"that are meant to help. But then just become the replacement. Cough cough subutex. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ Thanks doctor .
Brittany Bost You accepted subutex though. If used properly, subutex can save your life. And if you think getting clean from pills and shooting dope on your arm is the same as taking subutex or Suboxone, then you’re ignorant. I got my life and family back on subutex/Suboxone. A lot of people will be on it for the rest of their lives, and that is absolutely ok because it saved them. There’s no miracle drug, but if there’s something out there that’s going to make me stay off the street and not high on dope for days and my family hating me, then I’ll do it. If it saves them, then so be it. Everyone thinks everyone is the same and has to be completely a saint with no type of pill keeping them going just so they can be considered “clean”. And that’s wrong. If you abuse subutex, that is simply mental because all you’re trying to do is chase that high so maybe you’re jus not ready.
@@Omerta._ I never shot dope before in my life , for one . And for 2 its harder to get off subutex than it is pills . I never said anything bad other than it's a replacement. You dont know shit about me or my life yet wrote a comment full of assumptions and judgments.
Glad you got off the dope tho lmfao
You ain't never lie
Hey y'all if anyone's still referring to this video for advice on sub withdrawal, just know that the experience is different for everyone. I honestly feel great and I'm on day 3 myself. I jumped off at a little less than .25 mg and I believe that was a huge part of my success thus far. Just hit the gym when you feel like you need some sub. Get a vitamin that increases endorphins naturally as well as a good B-complex vitamin. I still have the mental battle like most of us but just keep that shit out of your thoughts and replace it with an activity you love. Make yourself do as much cardio as you can. Lean on peeps for support and work with a good doc. I took .50 of a benzo for anxiety at night and that's helped too, but be careful with them. Only use them temporarily. I was fuckin terrified a month ago and now I'm kicking myself in the ass for not doing it sooner. I took subs for 9 years.... You got this guys!! 💓💪 Great vid brother!
I do that too. an then all on like day. 5 8 9 .bam I got to find sub .you sound like me I'm on my girls. phone
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Thank you for sharing and giving others hope!
Chelsea Adkins yes one strip is more then enough! You will not feel any discomfort at 8mg
samatha steinmetz I made it to day 15, n omg, I was in hell.. (I was only taking under 1/4 mg day.. I been on these shits for way too long
Good for you. I laid it down 5 months ago and have been clean since. One of the best decisions I ever made.
How'd you do it I've been on subs for a year and kratom and Norco for 8years before that I just want out of this cycle
Shawna Lynne Hi how’s it going if you see this I was just curious what regimen you used and what you taper down to just how it went any side effects or any tips that would be great to hear because I’m getting close I take a half of 8 mg every 24 hours sometimes I forget actually almost skip a day and my girlfriend takes a quarter of a strip where I want to try to go down to a sliver go to the ocean cause I live in the mountains. One pretty amazing thing I would say about Suboxone is how they takes away all cravings and what not have any of you experienced know when you quit the Suboxone did those cravings come back and triggers and what not and obviously it’s all in the mind but I just appreciate all you’ll sharing ur Experiences and opinions and I want to get off anyhow. But my most all the doctors don’t except Medicaid now so my script is like $500 instead of three it’s just ridiculous
Awesome good work!
How did u feel? I’m on my last 2 mg of subutex and coming off this month, I’m so scared, coz I already feeling quite rough, and it’s only gonna get worse 😭
Why was it the best decision? What encouraged you to stop officially?
He’s so right about withdrawal is mainly worse on the mental aspect. I got threw my first 80 hours by continuously putting positive thoughts in my head with all my negative energy. For instance, i kept having negative thoughts and I used those negative thoughts to think about how terrible it would be if I was in a cell rather than in a bed . I kept putting myself to short naps by constantly telling myself that it’s going to be okay, it will get better, it could of been worse, and that I am as comfortable as I possibly could be. This allowed to calm down my anxiety and allow me to sleep and deal with physical pains and finally get threw day 3. And yes even with the help of subs one I was in bed with withdrawal symptoms for 3 days. It just extremely cushioned the blow when it finally kicked in.
You said there was no physical withdrawal from long term opiate use, you sir are a lucky man. It is clinically proven that physical withdrawal is real !
No he's full of shit
@@anthonyhutchins2300 yes he is. He must not have had a habit,if he suffered no withdrawals at all,find it very hard to believe.
I’ve been on it for 10 years after a bad oxy habit. I take an 8mg film a day. 5 days ago I had this idea to see if I could just take half of it. It wasn’t until tonight that I realized I’m actually feeling withdrawals. I got scared at first thinking I had corona virus. My nose was runny & I had shortness of breath!
Then I Laid down & My skin was crawling & I started Flopping like a fish! I just took the other half because I just can’t deal. I never thought splitting it in half would cause all this.
@@GreatMindsSeekTruth yeah don’t go from 8 to half try 1 milligram at times also it’s a lot easier if you take once a day I always tell people on here take it one do not take it 3 times a day or twice ! Once is enough and gives you advantage to stop easier or reduce easier
@@GreatMindsSeekTruthit’s all in your mind there is noway you were in withdrawal that night , anyway hope u r sober now.
It’s amazing how the mind can create symptoms that aren’t there, most of the stories about methadone or suboxone being harder to come off is from people who didn’t taper slowly enough. There is no escape of some withdrawals but it can be manageable if you go slow , it’s not a race , exercise, drink lots water and nutrition
Yeah I’m on day 4 and I’m starting to feel better. I just couldn’t sleep, no motivation, and sore legs and back. That’s about it. I jumped off at under 1mg
I was on 16mg for over a year and took about 9 months to wean off and the WD was a picnic compared to regular opiate medications-Slow, slow,SLOW! Why rush? at the end I was taking almost silly amounts that were crumbs but so what? I'm back on subutex I get from a pain clinic in fact the only opioid medication they prescribe is subutex. Besides being out of pain, I feel no different taking subutex then when I was off. Actually think it helped my mild depression.
I wish it was mental...I feel like I'm being microwaved and have restless everything when I try to sleep
DiamondCrush Loved your microwave comment. Made me laugh. On day 27 here. Stay strong all
Chem sky Programming the sleeping seems to be the worst part of it for everyone. For whatever reason, when I'm working long hours I can quit very easily, when I'm at home... I have too much time to think about the aches and pains
Yeah, there is definitely a physical aspect - especially noted, the heavier the opiate your coming off of. I quit methadone a year ago, and I simply cannot imagine a more intolerable senario. Currently I am getting off the suboxone. I dropped at 6mg, and used the imodium in higher doses to subdue WD which, I might add, it does very well. Imodium aka. loperamide, will douce WD entirely given the right dose, but beware - as most will tell you - its not for long term use. It builds up in your fat and once it reaches a critical level there, you will begin to get heart problems. But speaking of RLS - the RLS i experienced when coming off methadone was definitely not imagined, lol, and I laugh to think of it as such. Actually the RLS is a mild seizure, and they have even found seizure meds for epileptics to help with peoples RLS symptoms while WDing heavy opiates. \Neurontin comes to mind, although i could not convince my own DR. to prescribe it to me. But just a final note to all those who want to get off the methadone or any other opiate. there is a program in Northern Ontario -Elliot Lake - called the Oaks. They are the only program in Canada (ya, Im not sure if they take americans, but they just might, if they do your stay will have to be paid and not govt sponsored. As Canadian, if your poor, it will be covered under OHIP) its the only program of its kind in all Canada It is specifically a detox for opiate users. Its a three week stay, unlike most other detox centers who kick you out after like 5 days, thus making it ideal for those wanting to get off opiates, some of which can take a c ouple weeks or more. It is a medical detox, and suboxone therapy may be used in order to get someone off the methadone. Not alot of people know about it so I want to give them a plug.In this current time of opiate crisis, we need more and more centers like this one. I am stupified actually that the govt claims we are in a n opiate crisis, and yet you have but a single center appropriate to get off heavy opiates funded in all Canada. Just google the oaks in elliot lake if interested. they specialize in getting people off opiates especially the methadone.
Chem sky Programming I experience restless arms and chest, yah it sucks.Combined with the legs ,I swear its almost like the more I learn the more symptoms I have .
Have you ever heard Tramadol? That med could drove away the pain. I can guarantee you 100% will works and give you high too. But be careful not to use it for too long. The withdrawal symptom for suboxone is mostly two weeks. I think you can use Tramadol for help. Remember just for two weeks use because it has heroin-like chemical in that med.
It's so much easier when you have no choice!
Tapering down to .5 mg every other day and being ready is 90 percent of the battle. If you can beat the mental obsession the physical discomfort from jumping at a low dose will be nothing. Multi vitamins, dlpa avoid caffeine of stimulates of any kind otherwise the anxiety and restlessness will worsen. If you want it ,its yours. It's just a question of how bad and what you are willing to do for it. Preparation is everything and with a proper taper there is little to no discomfort.. stay out of your head and goodluck!!!
Taking away .5 every other day is too much too soon. You might as well go cold turkey if you're planning on tapering that fast.
MAarshall not what he said read the comment again!!! He is 100% correct
I didn’t experience physical withdrawal but I went down to 0.25mg a day then 0.25mg every 2 days then stopped. I’m glad it worked out for you! Namaste 🙏🏻
It's a very low dose so it's doesn't effect that much .I was on 6mg of bupernorphine a day .my withdrawals were like going to hell anyways namaste from india
I'm currently on 6-8mg a day, I'm going to do what you guys did, for sure. I keep hearing horror stories, but they tend to come from people who were jumping off a mg a day. The method you mentioned seems to be the most successful, and I can't wait to be free from sub hell. Thank you for your comment. I'm finally ready to do this 100%.
How about PAWSS?
@@drainedeyes4268just do sublocade if you’re still struggling
That is so awesome! You should be very proud of yourself! Withdrawal from drugs is about the worst kind of pain there is & you can’t see the light at the end of the tunnel! But you did it! I also commend you for knowing your body & brain the way you did the detox! That is great, most folks on drugs don’t have a bit of insight into their own being!!! I just want to say to you Superior job well done! It wasn’t a walk in the park but i’m Sure you have given much hope to many!!!!
Amazing! Your positive attitude is probably helping so many people have hope!
I respect the hell out of you man. I’m pretty much the same age & build as you. But, I’ve been on suboxone for 6 years & I want to quit so bad. I started out getting 2 a day for 2 years but only ever took 1 & a half a day. I went down to 1 a day for 3 years. Then 3/4 a day for 6 moths. & lastly I’ve only been getting 15 strips a month (half a day) for about 8 months. But Iv been taking less than that a day about for 4 months. I tied to quit last week by stretching out my last 2 strips by making it last a week. But the 3rd day after having no subs left I couldn’t handle the symptoms & anxiety. I ended up going back to my doctor for another month supply to try & keep weening off.
You give me hope & confidence that I can do it. Going try what you said. Take as little as possible for a while for several months then try to stop again.
The trick is to not hop off till your REALLY low on dose. Even 1-2mg is too high. 0.25 of a mg or less is where u want to hop off at
Hey man, thanks for sharing your story. It’s awesome to hear when someone successfully rids buprenorphine from their life. I have been on subutex for 6 years with one unsuccessful attempt to get off of it. I was able to taper down to .25 mg a day. The first day was fine. The first night was fine. The second day was fine. It was the second night that it started. I had such bad restless leg syndrome. I didn’t experience any other withdrawal symptoms that I would normally expect to get. I weined myself down to such a low dose that I didn’t have any physical withdrawal. The restless leg at night kept me up for a month straight until I went back to the doctor and got back on subutex. It’s a shame that I got as far as I did. Watching your video is inspiring me to give it another go. Hope you’re still doing alright man. Thanks for your video.
Always remember you are in charge of your body your mind no matter what and tell yourself each day that it's so worth it even if your feeling like shit. You can do this put your mind to it. Try Kratom it truly does work but don't stay on it long it does take all symptoms away. Good luck you can beat this once a for all. Sending you strength. 🙏🏻💖💖💯💯💯
Oh and PM meds help with the sleeping and so does Kratom get the Red to start with and the green after day 7.. I truly hope this will help. 🙏🏻💯💯
This vid has given me the push. I thank you for existing lol. Hawaii is my favorite place in the world and this whole thing is nuts that I came across your vid when I needed it the most. 👊🏻💪🏻💯❤️🙏
How's it going for you are u seeming down now I'm on day 11 here...a little tired but I'm basically off it now....if you want some advice feel free to sent me a message
This makes so many people who are in the exact same position, just as terrified as you were, feel SO much better. Thank you so much for posting this video. I have been clean from everything since June 2017, but I have been in a MAT program ever since I got clean & stopped using opiates. My girl and I are about to start coming off suboxone after being on it for 4 years, we are terrified but SO ready to live a normal life. Again, thank you for this video.
Guys you are so right about pleading the blood of Jesus over yourselves , yes it works cause all it is spirits they are strong so you really need to mean it , and say with authority you will be set free
Garrison Ezzell worked for me. Jesus healed me and went through no withdraw
If I had 1 dollar for every addict that talks about God and Jesus.People do drugs because they are irrational, they do religion for the very same reason,so it's kind of a natural transition from one bullshit to another.
@@Somnivers You're an asshole... if that's what helps people and gets them off drugs that destroy their lives and will DEFINITELY kill them sooner or later... what the hell do you care??? Why do you have to come on here and be dick about it and try to make people feel stupid and if you could you'd take that away from them. For a lot of people it's the ONLY thing that keeps them clean, and if that's the case WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU WANT THEM TO STOP BELIEVING IT!?
Doing drugs harms not only the addict themselves, but TONS of people around them, causes crimes, fucks society/cities up, etc. etc. and you want to come on here and mock people for the one thing that keeps them on the right path.
You're a miserable dick head. You're miserable, apparently, so you want everyone else to be too or something.
Somnivers religion is a hoax you need a one on one relationship with Jesus Christ
You can only be receptive to the Lord’s salvation after you’ve sacrificed your finest crop and most prized livestock to Jesus. Until then you are just dancing with the devil.
WEED HELPS!!. Well it's helped me before and I'm coming off subs again and it helps with nausea and keeps your mind off of it, also there's a 50/50 chance it helps with anxiety, it helps me sleep but some days it makes my anxiety worse.
And it helps if you can't eat
@@anfrankogezamartincic1161 anxiety try low dose of xanax lol
I am medicating with weed, right now.Xanax and stuff like that-i don't like that chemical stuff, i had enough of that, it makes me moody and even more unhappy
Good shit man. I did this very same thing on the strips my first time, and am tapering down on the lowest possible amount. The Fiance kicked it really quick doing the same thing with minimal discomfort. You're spot on...people listen to this guy.
I loved your video I’m currently tapering off subutex myself I’ve been on them for 9 years originally it did help me kick heroin but I, like you, was extremely hesitant to start tapering but this time it just felt right and I as well have been digging into “conspiracy theory” and spirituality as well as how we can manipulate our realities and it made me so happy hearing you talk about secrenicities and stuff I hope you’re doing well and wish me luck please I’m down to a fourth a day and next week I will be doing a fourth one day and an eighth the next and I will do that for two weeks before I taper down to an eighth daily and then after two weeks of that I will do an eighth one day and the next day I’ll do nothing and I will do that for two weeks and then I will go cold turkey thank you for the tips like coconut water, and for the support god bless
Jesus Christ is the one true God all praise goes to him!
this guy knows =)
Yeah what I guess. Hey can he bring my best friend back that died of a heart attack at 30? Ohoh or maybe he can he can help out with me being of the subs for a week and still shitting my brains out and can't even help with my 4 year old daughter. Oh he can't? Stfu
@@dmvjpeg assuming Jesus is really god, I highly doubt he would (or any god would) have those abilities. Lol wtf kind of god are you thinking of? You must watch good movies or play crazy fantasy games. Anyhow “god” isn’t about to help anyone. We have to help ourselves and we have to do all the work. When you’re done doing the work then you can take credit or give credit to sky daddy.
Exactly 💯
No, he is your consciousness. I AM is not a being outside of you
To hell with the labels or titles. God is God. Regardless of any label or title. Its Feb. 2019 and i'm starting this battle today. Thanks for inspiring me. God bless you.🙏😊👍
i read this as to hell with labels or titties lol
God is far away when you cold turkeyin
Seeing this comment from over a year ago brings me joy. As of late, I take a very small amount of white veined Maeng da kratom twice a day with zero(0) side effects. No withdrawal. No cravings. No expensive trips to a doctor's office and pharmacy for a drug my mind/body becomes addicted to. Today, i'm free, and most importantly, i'm "ME" again. Anyone who's suffering with this can get away from it. You can overcome. You can regain your freedom and health. Anyone who wants information or helpful details, please reach out to me. Suboxone is a stepping stone away from addiction. Not a permanent solution. God bless everyone.💜🙏☺👍
@@anfrankogezamartincic1161 I respectfully disagree my friend. He's more present than ever when we're at our lowest point of suffering. I too thought that he abandoned me when I was craving, withdrawing, and dopesick. I was wrong. Just hit your kness and pray, he'll show you his presence. God bless you brother.💜🙏👍
@@heavyjoechipman3594 anything that helps. Peace brother
This was the best advice I’ve found yet. Thank you so much
Happy to hear it wasn't too bad!! Peace and love as if continue your life journey drug free!
Thank you for this video. I'm 6 days in cutting myself back and I'm doing it pretty quick because I'm so sick of this shit. But I truly believe in the law of attraction and a higher power and I've seen a complete difference in when I tried to quit last time with a different mindset. As u said u still need to stay highdyrated, eat right, and take otc meds, and most importantly you need to have the right set of mind. Our brains our very powerful.
Thanks for the video, this really cleared my head. I'm currently in 24 hr detox, tapered down to .20mg , but the anxiety just gets me bad, hearing and seeing your recovery is amazing dude hope you're doing good!
Brooke Lynn Barlow ...Hey how'd that go for you? I'm taking .66 now and plan on going to about .20mg like you did. I was wondering how cutting down to that low of a dose worked out for you?
@@JM-ie5bp
Hey I'm asking the same question you asked a year ago.
I'm about to do the same, do ya have any update?
I'd appreciate any insight.
Thank you
this guy has the perfect mindset. thats what you need to get and stay sober. im going thru suboxone treatment and i only hope itll be this easy for me in the future
Thank you for sharing, I’m also currently going on my tapers- made a couple videos to try and help other people cause of the horror stories! So again thanks for sharing this and the positivity and hope you give others!
Yeah you try meditation while in withdrawal. Good luck no attention span for more than 5 seconds.
Mario Andreano can you imagine trying to meditate with the restless leg too??😂 ya right
Mario Andreano right?! I have the attention span of about 2 seconds for ANYTHING when I’m in sub withdrawal. When I’m in the shower is when I do the closest thing to “meditate”... but even that is just leaning my head against the shower wall with my eyes closed from pure exhaustion & making the most out of my moment of comfort before I get back outta the 5th shower I’ve taken that day.
Ya I mediate after I start to pass out from puking and I eventually black out. That's my mediation
That's called titration, which is the prescribed method of getting off of opioids.
And the symptoms are certainly physical as well as mental. There's really no question about that.
And yes, one can get physically dependant on immodium, but that's different from addiction.
Thanks for your tips, and congratulations for being clean!
There is opioids in immodium
Your sooo young, good lookin guy, and have your whole life ahead!!! KEEP YOUR SOBRIETY FIRST, ATTEND MEETINGS ETC and you can do this!!!! As long as you never take the mentality of "Oh I got this!"Because that exact attitude will put you right into a relapse! Good luck, and just remember 1 thing....."IF YOU AREN'T WORKING ON YOUR RECOVERY, THEN YOUR WORKING ON A RELAPSE!!" Best Wishes!!
I'm on day 2 coming off subutex. I did the same thing letting my intake diem to a crumb of the pill for the last month. I'm definitely swetting a bit and getting some chills with mild anxiety. Thank you Brother for your tips. Going to get some imodium now. And yes spirituality is the key. That's the only reason I have enough faith and trust this time. Cheers brother. Upward and onward
U can get off anything with God's help. He got me off 18 years of shooting dope and 1 year of fentanyl... 11 months of 90 mg methadone... Even got me off cigarettes, 30 years of alcohol gone too... Trust me God is good.
God isn’t for everyone most defiant for me I can just quit doing fentanyl and just pray and pray for him to take my wds away it doesn’t work like that I don’t believe that praying and reading the bible and going to church is gonna take my addict mind away whatever floats your boat brother and but u can just say god works for everyone
@@dboybooks2739 listen ur being deceived if u think that...
Proverbs 3:5 trust in the Lord with all ur heart, and lean not on ur own understanding.
John 11:22 but even I know that whatever you ask of God, God will give u.
Listen it took me 13 rehabs 5 stints in jail and 1 prison term and 2 psych wards to finally ask God for His help... I was even getting high in rehabs and jail.
I finally allowed God to do for me what I couldn't do myself.
Here I sit 22 months later clean sober and with a sound mind.. I don't wake up wondering who I'm robbing or what I'm stealing, and my sleep is pure now.. Is
God is for anyone who wants Him... Wish u well on ur journey and God bless.......
JAY CHRISTIAN and your how old???
@@lilmrs.sprinkle9984 43
JAY CHRISTIAN well u look great
I don't get turned off by God brother, and nobody else shouldn't either ,he has our back!😉 thanks for the info!!
god isn't real.
Has our back?
Do you not realize the evil-ish horrors of what goes on in this world. People suffering all over. Even the ones that pray.
Stop crediting some make believe character for the things you accomplish with your own strength.
I can't thank you enough for sharing your tips and experiences with us! I hope you know that just the fact that your sharing your story is definitely helping others!! You're truly an inspiration, thank you so very much, I can't even begin to tell you how much it helps that you are sharing your experience and advice!! Great job and thanks again!!! I hope that all is well with you and your recovery, you've definitely been an inspiration and it's really a beautiful thing!
bullsi20 Well congratulations, every day is a huge step in the right direction!! My drug of choice was vicodin 10mg and benzos. I have degenerative bone disease and spinal stenosis, amongst many other health issues. My meds got pulled because I smoke marijuana, which my Dr knew for 6yrs. I can definitely relate when you say you're trying not to go into full dread mode! I hope you know that you really should be proud of yourself and proud of every single day that you don't use!! People don't give themselves enough credit for even a day. I always say all we can do is take it one day at a time . Thank you so much for responding and chatting with me about this it really means a lot!! I'm grateful to have gotten to speak to another inspirational person such as yourself!! Never forget you're not alone, anytime you ever feel like talking, or venting, lol, feel free to hit me up. Best of luck to you my friend, you'll be in my thoughts through this battle we are facing and enduring!
Thanks so much for being so honest! I relate to you so much and hope you're still doing well!
Just gotta say Withdrawal is Not 100% mental. Body heating up and not sleeping...to name a few.. are physical symptoms of withdrawal.
I believe this man. Been on suboxone for 11 years. The last 7 years or so I've been on a bit less that a 2mg strip a day. I take small peices of a strip 3 times a day. I noticed that when I'm busy and not thinking about it I don't remember to take a dose. Then as soon as I think about it I start feeling like I need to. I also suffer from anxiety very badly and have been trying to beat it naturally for a long time, don't want to take more drugs. Recently I started praying, I've never been really religious although I was brought up catholic in the 80s and 90s as a kid. I have noticed my anxiety is not as bad the next day when I pray the night before, so much in my brain tells me that is bullshit but nevertheless it's seemed to work. So I think I know what you mean by being spiritual vs being tied to religion. I want to get off of subs and I don't want to ever go back to using opiates. Just so scared of the journey fucking up my job and life.
Get Kratom it will help you get through it and you will be able to work normal. You can do this. 🙏🏻🙏🏻💯💯
You had me at “conspiracy theorist”. Good vid bro. GOOD FOR YOU!!👊🏻💯
You are an inspiration. It takes alot to get clean off something you take daily and finds its way into your bones . To some extent you feel safe when taking this medicine because you know its the reason your clean and finally doing well for yourself.
Question yourself what would happen if you relapse ? Well its simple , mind over matter.. you got to love yourself and how far youve come and thats when you can safely get off the maintenance.
Your pretty awesome for coming this far
I was told if u buy imodium, only buy non generic liquid. It does help. Also get to a very low dose than do every other day, every two days, till u don't need anymore. It's hard to cut back when u have 30 subs in your drawer. Sub detox makes opiate detox seem like nothing. It's tough, but worth it
Thanks man. You wanna talk about synchronicity? If you knew what I am about to go through this video was specifically made for me. Crazy.
so happy for you! can't wait to be off and free like you! Congrats
Thank you brother. I've been tapering for quite a while now. I've been on my last 8mg strip for 3 weeks now and I've been skipping days and still have probably another week or more left. I literally take a sliver in the morning. Today is the 3rd day that I'm skipping a day. One day on one day off. Guessing I'm at 0.25mg or less right now. Might try skipping two days this time. I love your spirituality outlook as I feel the same and hearing your words about it being about the anxiety rings true. Just gotta keep going and never look back. When it's gone I won't allow myself to get more. Wish me much luck although I have faith that I won't need it.
🙏Much love
Good luck as im reading your comment right now. So did you succeed? If yes amen!
I am coming off of it now. Two months and counting. The muscle pain in my quads, deltoids and calves are excruciating... it comes in waves
Turned off by God, I love Jesus, let's see how turned off they are on Judgement Day be blessed brother
Right on my man, yessir!
Whats amazing is, is that we can pray about this and god will handle the rest. Once the seed is planted, you cant unplant it. That "synchronicity" is your higher powers will for you brother, thats gods will
That will be a very sobering day for most
Dude some people are tougher than others. I’m one of those people. There are side affects from coming off this shit. Oxys were way worse than subs for me. Appreciate the positive message. It’s not so much mental as you say but there are physical symptoms for sure. Take care
Sounds like you have great will power!! You should be Amazingly proud of yourself! Love your video!
I’ve been taking 2 8mg/day for 2 years. I saved my last 3 and made them last a week now today is my first day without any. Feeling fine.
How was tom many years ago?
How’s it go
Ahh man good for you! I was on suboxone 4 years, and have been on subutex the last 2 years(it's cheaper without insurance for generic subutex). Stopping heroin was the hardest thing I've ever done, but for some reason quitting the subutex scares me even more. I outgrew partying and other drug use that was recreational(rave drugs, etc)/borderline habitual(adderall/vyvanse). With all that stuff, and even the heroin actually, it was pretty easy once I'd made up my mind to let it go. But the suboxone was always there since the dope, it literally saved me and gave me back my life. I haven't been able to get myself under a 1/4 sub a day yet. I guess I need to just bite the bullet. Another issue is not being able to move for the foreseeable future and being surrounded by people taking it, so even if I managed to stop I would know where to get it easily. Congratulations tho man :) I hope I can say I left it behind some day soon too!!
I'm right there with you buddy ive done heroin and even fentanyl hardcore for a year. After that I've been on a quarter of sub a day for a few months. Use to do a half a day by nose because it hit harder but went down to quarter a day. Going to try to ween down to a 16th eventually and jump from there. If you can ween to a 8th and half for a week, then 8th for a week, then 16th for a week. After that a 16th every other day for two weeks and jump withdrawals should be minimal. I'm a smoker since I live in Colorado so the smoking will help with the minimal withdrawal left. Should take about 3 full months for our brains to go back to normal before we did sub. If you decide to stay on that's fine to because I'm unsure myself. Hope everything works out!
Love love love your outlook and anchor you have set for yourself. I have to say that I was on Suboxone for 4 years got off March of 2017 and the stigma and the placebo effect of professionals telling people they'll be so sick is really what is making addiction happening right now it is hard but if you put your mind to it it can be done it's just people telling you that you can't I've been sober since March 17th I love your outlook Hawaii rules cheers to you
I love that you acknowledge Gods role in this. So great! Thank you
from my experience it was hard to get below 2mg but once i got down to 0.5mg it was all mental. its been a month ans i still struggle with low energy ,little anxiety ,unmotivated but im sleeping better now. the key is to taper so you dont hurt physically ,supplement ,eat right ,exercise ,go for a run /walk ,get some sun ,meditate/pray and most off all stay mentally positive and be patient. the brain takes a while to heal all its receptors and everyone is different. comfort meds help as wel as counceling , kratom can be your best friend but use it wisely :)
Christian Valverde.. you look like you work out did you notice that you gained weight when you stopped taking it im still on subs but have been working out the last few months and I have gained weight but have capped off at 220 for minute and also I have been tapering as well I take less than half of a half of an eight milligram strip and it is extremely difficult to go any lower I think a big reason for that is that I keep it under my tongue for at least an hour or more sometimes before I spit it out if you don't mind me asking how long did you hold it under your tongue when you were taking it I really believe that is why I can't seem to go any lower
Kratom helped me greatly when I jumped off at 8mgs, the bali strain. Like you said, use responsibly.
Christian Valverde me too
james Parker. Spit it out? You don't spit it out man, you swallow it. You honestly haven't been spitting it out, have you?
Mark Riley when people spit it out its because they realize the dose is too much. I did it once n just made sure I didn't take any extra
I jumped from 1 mg and I'm on day 11..your inspirational!! I hope it gets better
Ian Mangham....today is day 18 and going strong.. thanks for the positive feedback, not much of that these days, so thank u!
How are you doing? Is it day 23 yet!? Even if not, its not for nothing. So many extra opiod receptors will have "died off" already. Im sure youre killing it though! Good luck...staying happy and active is key and you seem like youve got it
Rosie Williams How bad were the withdrawals for you jumping off 1mg? Were u taking the 1mg once a day or splitting it?
Rosie Williams i jumped from 1mg also. And im filled with Jesus's energy
thanks for this. I really needed to hear this....gives me hope🤙
you haven't done them long enough if you think there mentally..trust me your young ,you bounce back fast ,wasn't til I was older i couldn't stop withdrawal..good for you man glad you did ..:) im working on it
I'm on 4mgs from 8. I weaned only half in 3 years. I'm going to try and lower to 2mgs for a week then 1mg for another week etc untill I don't have to take any. Then just deal with the rest until I'm ok again. I know it's gonna suck , but if I keep my mind busy I think I'll be ok. Wish me luck !
Congratulations, did you succeed?
Taper down to .5 mg a day for how ever long it takes you to get ready to jump off. ( I was on .5 mg for 3-4 months)
But when I quit, I had basically 0 physical withdrawals. But I did have the intense, worst cravings I’ve ever had. But everyday the joneses got less and less. And after 8-9 days, I was doing OK. And after 2 weeks I was back to normal!
Good luck to anyone kicking a habit. I quit after 15 years of use, and did it with 70 8 mg strips still in my bag.
( it made it easier for me quitting with a stockpile to fallback on if things didn’t go as planned)
It feels damn good to not be a slave to a pill or a slither of a strip. 👍
Bro I'm on 0.5 mg can i build muscles and workout please reply
Thanks for sharing :)
I so needed to see this and what you did to get off it..
Gonna give it a try..
Good video man congrats hope your still killing it with staying clean. I’ll let you no how this works out for me right now I’m at a very low dose less than a quarter of an 8 mg strip. I tried going cold turkey today and it was horrible. Thanks for the video an again I’ll check back in 🤙🏼
Ive been on suboxone for 8 years! Ive been weening off it for five not kidding lol I take a quarter piece a day now it sucks getting off dude
y in teh world would u ever need it for?
There is no tapering off of suboxone. Sorry to tell u, I'm sure u figured that out by now. I called the hotline.
I was on it forever too. Then relapsed other opiates, back on suboxone. Goin through it again!! U need any advice I'm here too
i taper one sixteenth like every 6 weeks and i notice that in im down to 1.5 mg and its been rough as fuck pass 2 mg or a quarter strip
I've tapered off to 1 mg a day and now I'm stuck
I did the same thing ... I was down to a sliver of a strip and just stopped when I ran out
Thank you man. This is very inspiring
Good you're dealing with it now instead of putting it off for years. Kratom helped me alot btw
I’m over here looking for legit advice for physical withdrawals and dude is telling me spirituality like cmon bro
"First" Find someone to talk to. Dont stop talking and never ever lie especially to yourself. If you're like me: Basically 1 minute you want to talk and next minute you dont want anyone to see you in this manner. Well man/woman up and talk. Thats the best start anyone can do.
"Second":This dude up top found his anchor and it worked for him. Just find what works for you and never lie to yourself about yourself.
Hope you didnt even need to read this. Enjoy.
@Rrok Daragjati Yeah I hear ya about the sensitivity with smells, omg taste and all other sensors. Took me a long time to come to my own terms with mental. Im with ya on the physical part. But every time I forgave myself or talked I just felt better physically. (Dont have to read after this point). ty.
First time ive said this "If my doctor way back when lied and told me I had a bad flu virus Id never had gone through such a rough time". Docs dislike it when I say this. But to a ton of us that got hurt military wise, civi work wise or an accident. We dont know what addict or withdrawals truly is. I had 0 experience with drugs until I got hurt. Most of us trusted our doctor and now were labeled as addicts or its our fault for listening. The nerve. Anyway, If someone had the balls to just lie and say I had a very bad case of the flu. That mental imprint alone on a subconscious level. I truly believe it wouldve worked and had saved me years to actually live instead of hitting the pause button. But then the ethics argument comes in. Yeah now they care about it all a sudden. kk enjoy man.
@Rrok Daragjati Well you just earned my respect. Hope it works out for ya. As for me Im good now but am alone. Well hope one of us catch a break. Enjoy.
All the while he's taking 32 mgs of lope lol
But if there was another easier way, someone would have figured it out by now. Maybe it’s the only answer. And maybe spirituality is not what you assume it is
You lost me at withdrawals being and our minds it might have something to do with it but there's definitely without a doubt physical withdrawals
Yeah and he's taking mass amounts of immodium... Dude is literally taking opiates but saying there's no physical withdrawal lol
Thx buddy, you’re an awesome guy.
Thank u. My husband n I are going threw what u went threw. We moved from md to Florida. We took our last script to cut down n get off with us. Were gonna try what u said. Thank u. U gave us a lil more hope. We also have been on sub for 3yrs. We r so done n ready. We don't drink nothing. We love life. Life is precious. We have lost so many ppl to drugs.
Suboxone withdrawal was the absolute worst thing ever and I’ve had four children, being a mom of a child who is 5 who needs me, it was literally so painful, my dr had me on a very high dose and it seriously was so hard. I was crying every day, shaking, my body felt like it was being ripped apart from the inside out. I could barely move. Just the thought of running out gives me anxiety
were you able to get off? Everyone's experience is so different, I need to stop watching these Vids :(
@@sonnyrock5 Yes you are right everyone is different. You can do it tho. It’s not that bad in my opinion compared to Xanax withdrawals
I've been on buprenorphine for 5 years. I've been on a half tablet forever. I have the rest of this script and 1 more month of script and that's it. My doc retired but I'm not getting on with another doc. I'm quitting. I'm so nervous. My hubby is feeling like absolute shit! Lol. But he's doing it hardcore. My will power isn't as strong. I'd like to taper down the right way and have minimal withdrawal. I'm excited to be off this shit. The anxiety is terrifying!
I’ve been thinking about this whole sub detox, taper, withdrawal.
This guy is 100% real about what needs to be done and his advice is on point. Suck it up, take some responsibility and go through whatever needs to happen to get clean. Be patient and stick to a plan. If it’s a slow taper to a very low dosage it WILL work. It’s gonna take as long as it needs to take for your body to get back to normal. If you exercise and eat right it will speed it up.
Don’t get me started on PAWS. I’m so sick and tired of hearing about this. People confuse every feeling you have after you stop taking it to PAWS. If you feel worthless get up and do something to make you feel productive. People confuse PAWS with real life. YOU have to do healthy things to create a healthy balance and feel good. You no longer take a chemical.
The withdrawals suck. It all sucks. Take control of your life and get through it and DONT ever go back.
I’ve been through this process. You don’t wake up one day feeling 100%. You work towards it. There isn’t a magic time or process that works for everyone. Stack the odds in your favor and exercise, eat right, water, vitamins and be gentle on yourself.
Good luck to all. Love you!
you are getting smart ..your a lot younger than me and GOD is blessing you with wisdom.I hope you stay away from drugs from now on..I know you will be ok.I am 50 and bought into the whole suboxone thing and its all such crap!!
I'm on day 1 of sub withdraw and I'm already dying I was on subs for nearly 3 years.....this is the worst. I was also prescribed 3 8mg strips a day and I was smart and started to taper myself off more and more.....but I'm still hurting for sure.
Hey, how's it going? That's how much I was prescribed over 4 years ago. How do you get past the shocks? Do you have these? It's like the shocks are the worst for me. I might be able to deal with other symptoms but these freakin shocks!? You get these?
@@mikecuev820 I may have symptoms of that shock you are referring to. Is it like where you awke quickly and your heart is pounding and blood pressure up? If u get this please let me know , thank u and keep up the great work!!
@@seans5008 yep exactly. So what are you on so far? I know this posting was a while back but I fucked up and got back on the shit again for about 3 months. I put myself through inpatient treatment and am now back on 3 strips a day. I tell you what though, I'm prescribed 3 a day but am really averaging 1-2 a day with the help of gabapentin. The gabby is helping along with the subs to keep me active and not dragging through my day. It has helped tremendously. You tried gabapentin with the buprenorphine yet? If not ask your doc to prescribe some to you. It definitely helps with cravings and gives you energy
been taking buprenorphine for 12 yrs now.... but when I stop My back hurts sooo much I just can't.... I'll never get thru work...it's a vicious cycle... Have to work, buy more buprenorphine to be able to work.... to buy more buprenorphine...to get thru work....lol
I've been on for the same amount of time as you. Over a decade. Crazy huh. I was prescribed 3-8 mg strips a day. That's insane. I'm down to a sliver a day just to control my shocks. If I can get through this, I'm golden. I hate being a slave to Suboxone or any substance for that matter. What if the shit hit the fan and all of a sudden we couldn't get our shit? That's what I'm scared of. I don't want to be a slave to Suboxone any more... Wish me luck! ☯️
Mike Cuev
How are you doing now? After an oxy habit....It’s been 11 years for me.
5 days ago I took half of my reg 8mg dose. Tonight I panicked thinking I had corona. Runny nose, shortness of breath & constant yawning. I laid down, skin was crawling & I kept flopping around or stretching my body out to ease it. I then realized it must be from only taking the half dose. I wasn’t trying to quit, I just figured I could take less. I took my other half though because it wasn’t fun. Hey, at least it’s not corona! Lol
Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope to eventually get there too.
Im with it man. Im on 2mgs rt now seeing the signs. Gonna make it happen. Thx for this
Christianity is not a religion it’s a relationship with GOD don’t listen to skeptics that never did research, Jesus Christ is the truth I got off drugs with no rehab no doctors just me and GOD and prayers, addiction ruined my family and GOD saved my life. Reprogram the mind body and spirit GOD will guide you not your inner self aka your Ego. It takes hard work and patience, positivity and faith.
This is what I am always commenting to people :) God bless
Edgar R. Me too.. Amen!🙏🖒
That's great and all, but god didn't do it- you did. You just needed something to hold onto (nothing wrong with that, and it works) but don't thank god, thank yourself
ontopofbottom yes I do thank God for giving me the courage guidance and wisdom to do it!😊
You chose the nearest religion. Good for you...
Why is everyone AFRAID and full of FEAR to talk about God? Wow, He's your Creator. I have to find a real detox video, serious guys on 1mg, if I were on 1 I could come off also
I'm still on 1mg and can't seem to taper any lower... Two months ago, I was on 12mg (for almost two years). Was originally given Suboxone for Kratom "withdrawals" and the doc happily prescribed me 12mg, only to later find out both of those decisions were ass-backwards and INSANE. Long story short Suboxone withdrawal is 10x worse at least.
So what! That's GREAT! If you are stable on 1mg congratulations. Stop thinking about it, attack the 1mg later, it's probably psychological.
Because continuing this routine of chemical dependence is driving me absolutely crazy every second of my life now.... Can't go even a few minutes without just thinking about this BS. I'm over and done with it (psychologically speaking) and have been for about 6 months. I'm ready to jump, but I just can't with my own willpower and my doctor doesn't care (he's a Suboxone doc so all he wants to do is give me more). BTW, I don't think I'm stable and I honestly never have been since starting on the Subs, they've just kept me constantly "high" as in opiate-fog type high since day 1.
Sorry didn't know you were having a rough time, thought you got to 1mg and were able to hang. Here's the truth, I can't tell you, doctor can't tell you, because we're all different, but you WILL clean out. I highly recommend seeing a specialist, don't tell me you can't there are ways to get insurance, and some free centers. I did it without any problems, IT WAS HARD, but I just layed in bed one week drinking Kratom, cold Turkey and it worked. I also had Xanax and Immodium, that formula, but you know little uncomfortable, then put the brakes on the Kratom and was fine. With Kratom you have to prepare it right for maximum efficacy. God bless you brother, pray also, it helps.
rocknrollboise you just said exactly how I feel. I'm so ready to come off. I know the fog you speak about, it's makes me feel sucidal even though I wouldn't do that. Just gives me hardcore depression and stress. I hope for the best man let's get through this.
You are too right my friend in recovery. Mind over matter is real.
Awww shitttt... 3 months?!? Dang ive been on for 10 years now... Im currently at 4mg a day, but i have been down to 1mg a day but i fucked up... So im back at 4mg and working my way down. And yes withdrawl is absolutely physical... And mental.. You definitely feel the physical effects. My legs and arms shaking like a mother... No sleep, cold ass sweats, cant lay down cant stand up cant sit down.. But i am ready to be free of the chains bro!
Thanks for the video bro! Hope and pray all is well for you!
EVERYONE READ ENOCH
Clicked on this video just because he's so hot god
Tess Jonin Right!
Seriously the same reason I clicked on it. I'd be more than happy to hold this dude during his sleepless withdrawn nights. Are we bad people for objectifying a person in the midst of him trying to bear his soul and have a humane connectiveness with others?
I dunno. But dear god don't show off bronzed and sculpted shoulders and expect me to hear or see anything else.
he likes dudes
Definitely hot!!
Tess Jonin yoi free off that shit yet
God why are you so fine? You’re inspiring me to meditate and finally jump from this .25. Thanks!
Good job man I see myself in you keep it up. 😎
I do think everyone needs GOD! That’s what got me to quit using and I don’t think I could have done it without him!
Amen!!!😇
Been on suboxone for 5 years
Since I was 19 and I’m 24 going on almost 25
Pretty terrified to come off of it
Got a 4 1/2 year old
I’m scared of the long term effects
Taylor Barrick you can do it!!! Stop wasting time, yr wasting time on all this thinking yr going to quit. Your ok. Keep busy keep busy. Do it for your son, i did.
you've been on it too long... you shoulda been on and off with in 1 year 6 months. I was addicted for 12 years and thats how long it took for me.. no withdraw because i tapered down every month towards the end
I agree with a lot of your points, a lot of it realy can be mental, thanks for the vid ive been debating when to get off them for years now. The last time i was getting off of heroin, i was going on vacation to the beach, i used my last 4 bags on my way there then a day and a half later i started taking subs, and i must admit i hardly had any withdrawals during the transition. I was shocked.
Ur hella fine AF! 😘 love hearing recovery stories... I have siblings currently dealing with drug addictions and I use TH-cam to help them because we can not afford no Intervention type rehab!! Love u!! Love that ur giving life a TRY! 😘😍
8yrs on subs, 2mg for 6months before jumping. Had insomnia day2- present (day8) and physical wd sucked for days2-5 and the physical wd symptoms did not stop until today, Which i do not even know how these videos came up i was watching stuff about time travel suddenly spiritual videos like people talking about how in near death they seen hell and people suffering and how intensely they suffered. And how it doesnt matter what you are on earth if you dont believe in jesus you will not go to heaven instead suffer horrible painful hopelessness for eternity. So i actually went to my window the sun shining on me and talked to god, i begged him to forgive me that i disowned him. And over n over these videos talked to me.Like actually hit chords with me and i always thought of these types of people as bullshit artists. I eventually came across a lady from my hometown preaching and talking about her drug abuse and how she practiced witchcraft and had a very bad childhood. Then my 5 yr old son comes into the house telling me he wants to take care of this dead bird down the street so it can go into heaven, and i have never talked to him about that, and i gave up on religion long ago. Anyway the gist of this is i definatly had a spiritual awakening today and it was very subtle but was real and relentless. I honestly believe if you need god or jesus, and you deep down ask for him, he will speak to you in time. As for my withdrawals today i went all day without being cold restless legs nothing but a lil back pain, hopefully no depression and anxiety and insomnia goes away but we will see. Also i forgot to add i looked up the preacher on facebook, i sent her a message idk why, and she responded back, said shes coming back to the hometown in ny tomorrow. She lives in NC. She wants to meet for coffee like 10 miles away. How crazy is that?
Joe Szyd sounds great hope your doing well
Joe Szyd I live in nc and I was just curious who the preacher is?
I AM Christian however completely unaffiliated with any specific Church Or "Religion"..Just Try to Follow Jesus & LOVE as HE LOVES..
Tori Massengill carol kranacki something like that. We ended up not meeting up. And I'm still sober, my body is still recovering.
Joe Szyd are you still on track? That is a pretty synchronistic story. I truly believe you will get the help, or anything you need if you just ask for it and believe it will happen. I wish you the best man. The coffee doesnt matter as much as the signs of synchronicity from God and that you were able to see and interpret that sign.
Joe Szyd That is not crazy !!! That is fuckin mental. What is wrong with you people?
Fuck you
FUCK RELIGION
FUCK ISLAM MOST
Thank you and Good bye
I LOVE GOD!
msxmargo If that is the case. You are an idiot.
Me too!
I completely agree...I had no problem cutting down but that last 1mg (Sub) is what makes a world of difference. So as low as you can go as long as you can go is def key!
I know this was a year ago when you posted.. but I just wanted to share my testimony. I was on heroin for about a year.. this was my senior year of high school. At my graduation I was even dope sick. But anyways the summer of 2014 I made a decision that I was done being a shell of myself. I asked God to take away my withdrawals, even though I deserved every minute of my withdrawal from the sin I was committing, the next week I had no stomach pain, I wasn’t sweating, shitting or feel bad at all. I remember tanning and going to church and I was fine. But Being a sinful human on the 5th day my sister had me take a small dose of her suboxone. I have been on suboxone for the past 4 years. I am quitting now and I just want everyone to know that you can’t be lukewarm about it. It took me 4 years of kinda trying (always keeping on a low dose). I can make 1 strip last 1 week. But now I’m on such a low dose because i recently cut down to a crumb I can feel the symptoms but I honest don’t care which makes me a lot calmer about the whole thing. I’m doing this for myself as well as my future baby. I want a baby without suboxone. It’s a personally choice but if takes me not feeling the best for a couple months.. it’s well worth it.
That’s all. God is great.
Rebecca
Amen,you are truly amazing and blessed 😇
God created everything.
Yanez knife works not
*FACEPALM*
Including the morons
Frank's world Then?? Who , or what created God? Someone or something had to make him? Not trying to tell you you wrong, but, I don't see how a God would let anyone go through these terrible wds!
How you doing now? I will run out and plan to quit this weekend. My son will be at my moms for 5 or so days. I have quit before, last year, same time. Lol. I was on it for 3 years then. Now I've just been on it since July. I'm ready, and plan on staying busy. I think it will be easier this time
R MAN Addiction doesn't discriminate, my friend. Day 4 off sub now.
R MAN I tried to taper, I feel like that's harder than just quitting. I was on about 2 mg. I had one klonipon, I have been taking about 3 neurotins a day. Magnesium and melatonin at night, which ain't helping me sleep. I've been through this countless times. Hopefully this is the last. It's definitely doable.
Alisha how are you doing now?
CrissyAnn Salinas Eh, I ain't sleeping, I feel like if I slept at night, I'd feel a lot better. I've been getting out during the day tho.... looking like death. Lol, but I'm holding up. There's more 'ok' moments, than the hard ones.
Are u taking anything to help with the withdrawl what mg did u jump off of or did u taper?Sorry for all the ?s I’m currently on suboxone myself have been for about 4-5 years and I’m just sick & tired it makes me sick taking yes at first it helped but of course all that has changed I just want off but truly scared some of the stuff I have read scares me too death!lol
Thank you for this video and THANK YOU even more for pronouncing Suboxone correctly 😂.Don’t know why most of the world pronounces it wrong . Tapering off of it is hard . I’ve done it before. It’s always nice to pick a time when you’re feeling happy and have time to rest . Of course I’ve been back on it for years now and need to try to taper again. Good for you tapering. I watched funny movies and did anything it took to make me laugh during taper . Did you notice you could laugh easier and feel things ya hadn’t felt in ages when you got free of sub ? I did . I miss laughing so easily 😂
How are you now? I think you are right.. a lot of it is your mind. This video helped me more than any other video I’ve watched. Hope you’re doing well.
Well, IF you were even taking suboxone, you just explained that you for one, didn't take much of it to begin with, which tells me you probably wasn't ever a full blown addict who was addicted to taking large amounts of opiates and also probably wasn't an addict very long. And you then explained how you tapered yourself down to pretty much not taking anything at all with your whole 1mg, which is the exact process of how a suboxone program works for people who wasn't addicts very long and is the whole damn reason you didn't have much withdraw symptoms or any at all. For people who have been addicts of opiates for a long time and addicted to taking a lot of opiates daily, it's gonna take them using way higher doses to start with and possibly have to use it for the rest of their lives to keep them from ever possibly using again because of opiates changing the brains chemistry so dramatically and makes a person's chances of relapsing A LOT higher. And if they do happen to decide to come off of it, it's more than likely gonna take them a lot longer than you supposedly did to ween off. Also, if a person is taking suboxone and takes a high dose and they decide to quit, they're gonna have ALL KINDS of withdraws and it's definitely more than just mentally. You said in your other video you like to research a lot. Well I believe you sound like you're trying to pretend you're whatever you researched about and trying to act like you went through them and trying to give advice. I mean, coming from someone who was am addict of opiates (Oxycotin) for 11 years and has taken Suboxone for 7 years, I can see right through your bullshit.
I was addicted to opiates for years and still on sub's. I refuse to think I can never be clean. You're out look is just sad.
Mark Riley Oh yes!!! Great comment. Thank you very very much.
The guy was never an addict
Mark Riley Best and most honest and most helpful comment here!
Mark Riley ....we all have an addictive personality though ya know....its dif with everybody...i hope your doing well
Mark Riley ....i was on 300mg of oxicodone a day when i got on suboxone, but i found out real quick 2 and half years anyways lol that i was trading one for something else. this suboxone is wicked though it sucks coming off no way around it.
its a higher power something greater than yourself
Taylor Jackson bs
Taylor Jackson lol..ppl are so afraid to say God..Jesus Christ..my Lord..be blessed..lol
Thanks a lot bro for all your help I know it's a Grace from our Lord and God that I found you I just left the doctor and I'm down from 16 mg to 8 mg and almost 1 year but I've only got 10 mg to make it 3 days for my refill and was starting to freak out a bit but you're helping me so much to realize that it's in my mind and that I've already got enough medication to make it I just needed a little will power and a brother I've not met face-to-face thank you and peace
You are so positive we need more videos like this how are you from now