Why Is The Hylian Shield No Longer Special in Zelda?? (RYTM #5)
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Zelda dies. She's the glowing golden light that leads Link...... That's obvious, to me at least...
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Oh my God it's so easy. The Mastersword needs to be reforged most likely after malice starts to destroy or corrupt it. Link goes skyward to reforge it in the original forge!
JUST LIKE SKYWORD SWORD!!!
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I've always thought of the dragons more on par with how angels are commonly viewed. Supper powerful, tied to the will of their gods, but not the gods themselves.
You know. I'm a little bit buzzed. And came to this video off of a Dragon Ball Z vid. And this comment could hilariously fit Zelda and DBZ.
A lot like Kami in Shinto, and Zelda draws from both mythos pretty frequently
@@Levacque Exactly. Plus, if one of the dragons did turn out to be top tier gods, I would need a really good explanation as to why they didn't do more than bumming around the place, and allowing balls of pain to fly at their chosen hero.
@@RyuuKageDesu any time something like a ball of pain originates from a god, you can just use the excuse that it was a test 😋
@@Levacque True enough, on its own.
At least in Wind Waker (HD), Ganondorf has some grasp of what is happening in Hyrule. When he says "Let us end which binds us" he clearly wishes to end whatever is keeping the three together. He might not recognize it as a literal curse. But he has some awareness to machinations going on in the background.
He had hundreds of years to ponder this, with the Triforce Of Power in his possession. He's also much older and much more melancholic than his Child Timeline/Era counterpart (who is still young and arrogant).
Its like that in Wind Waker (SD) as well
@@mac2637 I've put HD in brackets, because I meant both; Wind Waker and HD.
@@UltimateTobi It's the same game with some extras, there's no need to specify lol
@@Mari_Izu Leave me my (undiagnosed) OCD habits.
In the "Minish Cap" we learn that the minish are these tiny little creatures that are invisible to adults and only kind good children can see them. We also learn that they are the ones who like to hide treasures all over the place, like rupees and other magical stuff. This makes them one the most present race in the series, probably only after the hylian.
My theory is simple, something happened to the minish in the BOTW, since you can hardly find items hidden in the grass, under rocks or jars, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MINISH? IS THAT WHY THEY WERE CUT FROM THE GAME?
The Minish = The Zonai 🤯
Well botws hyrule would not be post apocalyptic world if you could just find ruppees and hearts under rocks and in grass. I am sure minish were there 100 years ago. And over the 100 years they either died out or went back into the sky.
“We will continue to watch your Theory with Great interest” - Minish Cap fans everywhere
As to why they were cut from the game, the developers have stated that they felt the Minish would get lost in such a big, expansive world. Fortunately Nintendo has a good habit of reusing scrapped ideas, especially when it comes to Zelda games, so there's at least a chance we'll see them in the sequel. That's how we're getting the sequel after all, they had so many ideas that we're getting a new game (which I prefer) instead of just more DLC.
They're cut from the game
I hope botw 2 have explanation
For the shield theory, I like to think of it like this:
In Skyward Sword, this would be its creation era. Literally no other shield like this was created before as it was bestowed by a literal god. This was truly one of a kind. And with it, he killed Demise. Nothing we don’t already know about.
Fast forward to Ocarina of Time, since it’s been thousands of years since the events of SS, the royal family deemed it fitting to use this type of shield as maybe like a tradition, so they’ve adopted it into their ranks. If the hero was able to best Demise wielding it, it’s safe to say it’s going to be pretty recognizable to most even as a legend. Hence why the description in the shop says it’s commonly used by the knights of Hyrule. Of course it’s not magic or anything since it’s been mass produced for the military, but it’s most certainly a highly regarded design by now. And apparently it shows in this game specifically. It’s a staple shield. We don’t see a whole lot of lore in between OoT and SS, maybe they’ve been using this design for millennia and we’re just seeing one of the many times that this shield is a favorite among the Hylian military. We’d have no idea.
Now onto Twilight Princess is where it gets kind of unclear to tell. Based on the fact the Hylian knights don’t use it in their ranks anymore leads me to believe it could be the starting point of where they have started to faze it out in favor of better weapon tech. This could also explain why you can still find it in shops at this point. It’s in surplus. It’s old weaponry. Nearly a century at that. Cheap surplus of century old weaponry is found in our world as well, like world war one and two for example. The Hylian army may have started to faze it out of their ranks, but it could still be a favorite for regular citizens or collectors.
Now tens of thousands of years forward into Breath of the Wild is extremely difficult to explain based on my own theory I’ve built. However since we see other shields, such as the knights and royal guard shields, I believe they want to once again keep with tradition for a more specific reason. I want to refer to the stone that you find inside the chamber first. This is a trial for the knights of Hyrule. The royal guard even. One of the highest ranks of the Hylian military. I believe this is a rite of passage. Do this and you receive the same design and type of shield that the legendary heroes of Hyrule have used for millennia. This is the hero’s shield of choice. This is THE shield you want while you’re proudly defending the honor of the kingdom of Hyrule and the goddess Hylia, just like the many heroes of myth. Or maybe it’s for something more light, like a ceremonial shield, used by the royal guard in parades to boost the moral of the people of Hyrule. It may not be in surplus anymore, but it is still obviously a highly regarded design, even possibly sacred by the royal family due to its part being played in the very creation of their kingdom like the master sword and they wish to keep that well known.
The bigger questions are 1. When did the Hylian Shield surpass the Mirror Shield? 2. Where did the Mirror Shield go. A Blade that seals Darkness and a Shield that reflects all light. Something's missing here.
It probably cracked at some point.
Just take it to my guy I hit this ol lady's car so hard she flipped like 8 times. That car looked like it got hit by a train. Anyways 3 weeks later mechanics got her car back on the road well 6 months later Drs still haven't got that lady outta bed. Shoulda took her with me to the mechanic as well. All I'm saying is he can make it look like it never happened
@@theveganrancor3678 omg lol
Mirror shield should be way fragile, so Link cannot rely on it for real combat but only for specific situations. I know thats not reflected on gameplay mechanics, but for me makes sense on a Lore level. Hero of time iconic most utilized shield is the Hyrulean shield, the one the Hyrulean army wears in honor to the Sky's hero of the legends.
Nintendo didn't got any dungen ideas for mirror shield + shield durability system
*The Master Sword cannot handle pure Malice, hence it’s current appearance in the trailer.*
We know that all (if not most) monsters in the Zelda franchise are made of Ganon’s malice, and that the Master Sword can cut through them like a hot blade through butter at full power. However in the cutscenes of *Breath of the Wild* we get to see the Master Sword in rough shape after Link and Zelda escape a massive hoard of Guardians. Not only that, but in the final battle with Dark Beast Ganon, only the Light Arrows, Ancient Arrows, and if you’re lucky and conserve all of your hearts, the Master Sword’s beams. Since DBG is made of pure malice, it would make sense that the Master Sword itself wouldn’t be able to scratch the beast physically.
Did you really have to use THAT exemple of explaining how the master swords cuts?
@@omorifan6011is- is there a problem with it? I think it fits nicely.
@@LinktheHylianChampion117 have you played xenoblade chronicles?
@@omorifan6011sadly no, but I want to 🥲
That doesn't make much sense to me considering that Master Sword's history. Fi has been digesting Demise's hatred ever since Skyward Sword and only now has the master sword been damaged.
Fi is in Ocarina of Time:
I had this theory for awhile and just wanted some exposure. In BOTW Fi communicates with Link through a blue beam of light emerging from the Master Sword, the player can't hear what Fi says but is implied.
Now, in OoT at the end of the game while fighting Ganon, we recover the Master Sword and for some reason it shines like exactly the same as it does in BOTW, my theory is that is Fi telling Link to go for the finishing blow, since Link is also watching the blade with a curious face. It's important to say that in no other scenario the blade emits the same blue light in OoT, it's a little detail that no one really thinks about it, like just flights over our heads.
And yes, I'm aware the development team had no plans for Fi at the time, but it could be the case of Zelda II and the goddess statue, where at the time it was just a religious statue and nothing more, but the dev team used that sprite to develop what we know as the statue of the goddess hylia in Skyward Sword and BotW 20 years later.
No she's not. She wasn't even thought of at the time. The Zelda series clearly wasn't made with the timeline in mind
No she's not. She didn't exist until Skyward Sword.
Doesn't matter if Fi existed or not at the time, the lore changes throughout the years.
One overlooked detail is that in OoT, a second Hylian shield can also be recovered (by child or adult Link) from beneath the sharp brothers' grave in Kakariko Village, which could in fact be the original legendary Hylian shield
Not the Sharp brothers, its a special unknown grave simply with 3 triforce flowers in front of it
I think you’re mistaking it. The sharp brothers' graves have nothing underneath them. They just spawn the sharp brothers' poes. The grave with flowers in front of it is the one with the Hylian shield. It sits in the front row of graves being I believe the second or third grave starting from the left. It only has flowers as a child. As an adult the flowers are instead in front of Dampe’s grave, which is necessary for progression.
Alright, I was off. But there's is a shield under the Hyrule royal family tomb in-between the sharp bros. tombs & you have to play Zelda's lullaby to enter it.
Is that enough detail for you Cheeseballs & TheWither129?
@@55dumb No, that tomb is where you learn the Sun’s Song. Like I said, the shield is in the front of the graveyard. As far as it could possibly be from the Royal family tombstone without leaving the graveyard. Sorry if I’m coming off as a bit rude at all but, you’ve definitely got it mixed up.
Sorry about that, it has been a really long time since I've played OoT. And I mixed up a few details, but that could be the Skyward Sword Shield.
On the subject of Zora/Hylian offspring, we have actually seemingly already seen at least one mixed-race character in the Zelda series who expresses characteristics of both sides of his lineage: Rosso, the sage from A Link Between Worlds, who is part Goron.
Hmm I completely forgot about that guy. But I don't see how he could actually be "part Goron", seeing as how I'm not even sure they reproduce sexually (they don't have sexes). Also Zelda wiki references the Encyclopedia as saying he's not a Goron
@@ryanmccampbell7 he is hylian, that is canon, but his being hylian doesn't mean there's no goron blood in him too, and that clearly seems to be the case considering his physical characteristics, goron symbol on his belt, being the descendent of a goron sage, and being labeled "Goron" in the game's code
@@ryanmccampbell7 where is it said they don't have sexes?
@@ninjagamer1359 They're all referred to as male, though I'm not sure if it's explicitly confirmed that there are no females. Also the Gerudo allow Gorons into their town in BotW, which I assume is because they consider a single-sex species as not really being male of female (or they just consider it unfair to ban an entire species). I think of Gorons as kind of like the gems in Steven Universe (which are all identified as female but technically "sexless" and not even really biological).
@@ryanmccampbell7 I mean you seem to potentially solve any problems with Rosso being part Goron yourself in that comment. I suppose there are definitely still a few unanswered questions, but it doesn't seem to be impossible that Gorons could mate with Hylians necessarily from what we do know
I remember waiting for Skyward Sword to come out and speculating that the Hylian Shield would be a minor plotpoint of the story, and the red bird on the shield must have been added because of Link's loftwing. Could have had a little story about the people of Skyloft preparing for war against Demise or something and the knights in the academy are given Hylian Shields with different coloured birds or something. I was expecting literally anything except "I dunno, a magical dragon gives it to you" lmao
I think the shield in Breath of the Wild is the one from Skyward Sword. They are the only two Hylian Shields that are completely identical.
What about Granté selling the shield?
That works since all the other versions link wears the shield on the right arm while SS and BOTW are held on the left arm you and you can't just change arm for a shield.
My theory on the Hylian shield:
Personally, 2 things. One: it COULD be the original shield from SS, because the description says its "past down the Hyrulean Royal Family." That and it's defensive capabilities and durability is the best in the game, as well as the design being identical to the design in SS.
Two, which could be more probable imo: the Hylian shield in botw is a sheikah recreation, or near perfect replica of the original Hylian shield. We know that the sheikah have been known to toy with recreating things such as the master sword, that being the royal guards sword, so it's not too far off that they could have pretty much succeeded with creating a near-perfect Hylian shield replica, and designing it to look identical to the original.
ALSO THEORY NUMBER 2 that I just came up with while writing this:
WHAT IF the master sword we're using in botw and botw2 is *also* a near perfect sheikah replica. I say this because the master sword can, A. Run out of energy, and B. Be easily damaged by malice, something you'd think a legendary, evil destroying weapon would have no problem with. Evidence? Well in the small teaser from the botw2 delay announcement, the master sword being basically melted by malice let's us have a good look into the innards of the sword and how it was probably created. Now, I dont think normal swords look like that on the inside. Because the master sword in the teaser looks very very similar to other sheikah architecture, what with the swirls, dark and tan metals, and shiny, metallic parts that are similar to the legs of guardians.
So maybe the hylian shield and master sword we've been using are mere man-made, near perfect replicas of the originals, which have possibly been lost to time as we know botw takes place insanely long after the last games in the time lines.
Just a theory but a really cool one imo.
Cool hypothesis but it wouldn't work.
Fi, the spirit of the master sword has been confirmed in the first botw game by the flashing blue light coming from the blade. It is also present in the new teaser so.
This means this is in fact the original master sword crafted by the hero of the sky.
Woah
Well, Gerudo have looked for "boyfriends" since the get-go; in OOT a Gossip Stone tells us as much. And in Japanese, the "Voe Hunt" is more explicitly defined as how the Gerudo continue their lineage. But as far as Zora and Hylians go, I don't believe their marriage and relationships result in offspring. Otherwise, we'd have some evidence of that, right?
Yeah I'd guess most of the races are too different to produce any offspring. Marriage could still happen, it just wouldn't lead to any children. The Gerudo are probably the most similar to Hylians so that would be why they're the exception.
The zora-hylian hybrids might have dominant zora genetics, with only minor hylian traits.
It could help explain a couple of Zora being more shock resistant than most in BotW, like that stubborn old dude
Nigga talking bout fuckin Zoras
I always have my personal lore that Malon from OoT has a gerudo mother. If you talk with her father with a gerudo (and goron) mask he comments that it looks like his wife (maybe a fat gerudo). My theory is that the gerudo do what the ancient greek amazonias did in myths, they took a husband and procreate and if the child was female they took it with them and if it was male it went with the father. Maybe gerudo did something similar, something like if the child was female and looked like a gerudo it was taken to the desert and if not it stayed with the husband and because even thou Malon had red hair she had the pointy ears and skin tone of an hylian it stayed with her father.
@@ruyman90 I accept this as a headcanon.
Zelda finding Loftwings sealed underground so that they couldn't help the Hylians is appropriate considering that she is Hylia.
As to whether or not Link and Zelda knows about the curse, I would say it is similar to how Link retains all the experiences but not the memories. They are most likely subconsciously aware of it considering it is their souls being forced to reincarnate constantly.
I think that Demise, instead of creating a reoccurring evil figure that gets reincarnated periodically, cursed the Triforce of Power itself. Ganondorf was supposed to act as a great leader, overcoming the trials of his thief heritage (I don't know enough about Gerudo culture so let's not dwell on that) to be a uniting force in Hyrule. However, because it is that birthright itself that is actually cursed, no matter what Ganon wants for himself, that agenda is slowly replaced by the will of Demise until he no longer remembers who he was or wanted. In the case of Wind Waker, Demise's will was able to justify Ganons desires which made his corruption easier. The Goddesses wanted a system of brotherhood and sisterhood between the Triforce champions, each growing and learning from each other based on their different strengths, but instead the curse pits them against each other, brothers fighting brothers etc. This is kind of hinted at with the conflict between Sharp and Flat that travels into the afterlife. Every new generation the curse robs Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf of a close bond of friendship and as a result halts all chances of real growth in Hyrule since its ensured that the nation stays in constant, periodical, continent altering conflict.
About the Zora×Hylian thing, I've personally always complained about the use of the word "race" for Zoras. Personally, I think that Humans, Zoras, Rito and Gorons are all different species, and the "races" (although I'm still unsure if these would even be considered races anyways) would be the Hylians, Gerudo and possibly Sheikah.
That’s literally the definition of race. You human race, k-9 race, feline race. The term has been changed to different meanings.
I thought of it in the same way a Twilik and Human could not breed together in Star Wars. Sorry also for jumping series for this explanation.
@@Unchainedful huh. _In hindsight I should've investigated what "race" even meant before posting this_
The gerudo's strange biology in regards to their whole mostly female shtick makes me think similar yet distinct species, sorta like zebras to donkeys and horses.
The Shiekah are 100% just hylians with extended lifespans thanks to the goddesses.
An interesting interpretation of the Ganon-Demise problem can be found in the "A Hero's Purpose" (which of course I highly recommend, it is really good and emotional). There, it is theorised that Ganondorf know's about the curse, but accepts it as his destiny, and also a way to avenge his people, the Gerudo, for being mistreated for so long
Even if it isn't as an act of Heroism, I'd love for Ganondorf to learn about the curse and pull a "MY DESTINY IS MY OWN" on Demise
Theory: The third timeline split (the fallen timeline) is not due to Link losing to Ganondorf in the end of the game. Rather, it is due to Link getting the Master Sword after gathering the three spiritual stones and not being powerful enough to take on Ganondorf. Ganondorf kills him in the Temple of Time. Rauru or the goddesses then rewind time to make the Master Sword seal him inside for 7 years as is told in the game. This would make all three splits consistent (time travel shenanigans).
What's interesting is that you can alter zelda's memory as its based on the last shield you had equipped as a child, not when the cutscene actually happened.
But on a different note I've wondered in recent years what was happening to link's kid body while youre running around as adult link. Was he in a kind time induced stasis until you come back? It is interesting that, despite not being a mechanic in oot, link is not capable of getting 13 hearts before pulling the master sword. You can get fairly close, 11, 11 1/2 hearts, but his soul getting sealed was the result of that and the fact his inner triforce was not balanced; he has plenty of courage, but he lacks power (hearts and stamina--I mean magic) and has even less wisdom (life and battle experience) when he pulled the blade from the pedestal of time. By the end of the five temples his inner triforce became balanced; his wisdom and power had finally caught up to match his courage. The spirit temple represents that balance and enlightenment he achieves for better or worse.
@@ShadowSkyX I like the 13 hearts thing. Also, I wonder about the body thing too. Since when he goes back at the end, the timeline is left without a Link. So shouldn't that mean that the Child timeline has an extra Link?
I always figured Ganondorf was basically the reincarnation of Demise. I mean they strongly resemble each other. That would make their cycle even more meaningful.
I've had a theory burning about the Hylian Shield for a very long time now.
The first one, Skyward Sword's Hylian Shield, is imbued by the Goddess Hylia, as the only way it could have got it's name was from Hylia herself as "Hyrule" and "Hylian" were not used at that time. Take note that In Skyward Sword, Link is right-handed, and therefore the shield was designed to be held in the left hand, as the metal handle part is clearly shown. This is the original Hylian Shield. The invincible shield that can never break.
In Ocarina of Time, the design is slightly different. Having two leather(?) straps to allow it to be held in either hand. This one can easily be chalked up as a replica, thus explaining the huge supply of them.
In Twilight Princess, the Hylian Shield is sold in a shop, but there's only one in the entire game, and it can not be destroyed. It also has the same handle design as in Skyward Sword. Now this is where the theory comes in, as this theory implies that the Wii version of TP, and a right-handed Link in TP is "canon." Which is difficult to prove otherwise as the TPHD uses the Game Cube's map, and the obvious on how Hyrule is flipped in the middle of the timeline.
The Hylian Shield in A Link Between Worlds being a one-of-a-kind can be explained that it is found in Lorule. While not having the Lorule Triforce, it is a strange outlier. However, as many great theorists, let's ignore the holes in the theory.
Finally, the Hylian Shield is in Breath of the Wild. It is a one-of-a-kind shield designed for a right-handed swordsman. Found only once, but is not invincible as it once was. However, that can be explained by Hylia, reincarnated as Zelda, being too occupied by holding back Calamity Ganon during the events of BotW to keep the Hylian Shield at its full power. The reason it can be bought in Tarrey Town is simple. You can't buy one if you already have one in your inventory or in your house. Even if you drop the shield, you can't buy a 2nd one until the first one is completely gone. My theory on that is the guy who sells the Hylian Shield isn't selling a brand new one, but just repairing the one Link had already found in Hyrule Castle.
Thank you for reading, and feel free to poke holes.
I still think Zelda being playable is likely because in the trailer she has short hair. To-wit, they cut her hair for the first time in literally decades so they wouldn't need two different models for each equippable helmet
I think it's kinda lame that the Hylian Shield has become the de facto "ultimate shield" in later games when that role used to be filled by the Mirror Shield. The Hylian shield is iconic, don't get me wrong, but the Mirror Shield is _way_ cooler and more useful to me. I don't know why, but it seems like Nintendo has just decided they don't like the Mirror Shield anymore.
Nintendo got into controversy for the OoT Mirror Shield, along with most other gerudo related stuff
I think they don’t want anyone to remember that part of Zelda history so they changed up the gerudo from a religion to a race and got rid of any references to the spirit temple
I know the mirror shield existed before OoT this is just my theory
I mean, Skyward Sword introduced reflecting with a Shield Bash, and BotW took it to the extreme by letting you reflect things like Guardian Lasers. At this point, the Mirror Shield is kinda redundant since it’s main gimmick, reflecting, can be accomplished with any shield.
In minish cap, the mirror shield is post-game.
@@jasperjavillo686 The mirror shield had more uses than that. It absorbed and redirected magic, it could be used for puzzles, it generally blocked more damage, and most of all it’s just cool. Even if the deflection ability is redundant, it could act as a far more forgiving alternative to the much more skill intensive regular shields.
Imagine holding a guardians beam in the shield and then aiming it at the target of your choice.
First theory: finding a loftwing underground: Although it used to be a troupe years back, I guess it is possible Zelda's Loftwing could have been early preagnant when that tornado got them in Skyward Sword. Did we ever find out what happened to it? It could have somehow found somewhere to nest and have since her, and her children have been surviving underground somehow through the centuries until modern day Zelda finds like a city of Loftwings, be it in their original form or having been modified through the centuries.
Third theory: While I don't think Ganondorf, Vaati, or anyone was born with knowledge of their involvements in The Curse, I have a feeling that they probably all, especially Ganondorf,, learned about it in his rise to prominence.
I've always thought that the skyward sword dragon took the Hylian shield from the future. After the events of oot and tp, the shield is seen as a legendary item, and used to symbolise a great hero, such as Link. (Great video by the way!)
I only ever thought that the Shield looked neat.
you- you said 'Julian Sheild' lmao
thanks for the compliment lmao, sorry, I couldn't resist because my name.
@@LinktheHylianChampion117 😂
@@tears_of_the_kingdom:D
i'm so funny
When it comes to reproduction I’m inclined to agree that it’s got to be one or the other. That’s how the world works in Bojack Horseman and it’s the easiest to stomach answer. I’m sure some crafty folks on DeviantArt have deduced what Link and Mipha’s kid would look like and I’m 100% not interested in seeing it
I think, crossbreeding between races would be highy unlikely personally. I think the lore in the universe allows for interspecies relationships but it would be kind of biologically impossible for an interspecies couple to reproduce. So my theory is that each race can only reproduce with their own ilk however, interspecies relationships are not unheard of or looked down upon much.
@@cajunseasoning1846 Well, for the most part I agree, but are some "races" really just sub-species, and not truly different species? Like with the Gerudo...
@@marhawkman303 Yeah you're right. Rito, Zora, Gorons, Kokiri/Koroks and Humans in my eyes are all different species. But the Gerudo, Sheikah (, Zonai?) and Hylians are different races of humans- although thats a little more complicated because I think there was a distinction made somewhere between Humans and Hylians that separate them
@@cajunseasoning1846 rito-hylian mixes may be possible, if you think of TWW design of the rito.
@@gameyfirebro9645 I guess, but rito from TWW are evolved from zora, which I assume then they evolved further into the form they have now rather than are a different type of existing rito. So we dont really know what a rito-hylian mix would look like. Rito in TWW looked fairly humanoid from the zora who already are fairly humanoid. It would be a funny circle of evolution though.
I have a theory: Ganondorf and the Malice Curse are two separate beings, and the malice somehow found/chose Ganondorf as a host to embody.
In the very beginning of Breath of the Wild, King Rhoam states that Ganondorf was born in the kingdom, but was somehow transformed by the malice. This means that the malice itself is its own living thing; more evidence as to why Denise's curse references malice, not Ganondorf.
Which makes me think: has Ganondorf ever had DIRECT CONTROL over malice in any other Zelda game besides this one? None come to mind. He is always an evil king who just so happens to have the support of monsters made by malice, but he does not control them. Like in Ocarina of Time, he only became powerful because of the triforce of power, not the malice. Or in Twilight princess, it was Zant using his magic to control all the twilight monsters and all the other dungeon bosses.
Ganondorf has never had any influence over malice, until Breath of the Wild. This has to be significant in some way, right?
My only issue with this is - how does Ganondorf being naturally born equate to the malice being a totally separate entity? My sperm isnt me, but it carries my essence.
Perhaps I've missed something, so please dont feel like I'm attacking your theory.
@@watcher805 Because the malice was created by something else, which Ganondorf was the exposed to in some way. This happened over 10,000 years ago so the events of how are surely either lost or forgotten
It's been a while since I've played twilight princess, but I can remember Ganondorf talking about how the history between light and shadow will be written in blood, shortly after winning the fight against him. I can only guess, but I think it could mean that he's aware of a bloodline, a curse, or the never-ending cycle, in which he is the evil being born alongside Link and Zelda. He also talks about how you aren't supposed to think it is the end already. Also, I wouldn't know who would have told him about it, because there just isn't someone who would have the knowledge and even if, why would they tell Ganondorf? The only person on Ganondorf's side I can think of would be Zant, and he isn't even from the same world as Ganondorf.
To add to your curse thing. I completely agree. Much like the movie Hereditary, a curse can be laid long before and no one knows they’re even part of it. Charlie never knew she was Paimon. And none of the rest of the family did either. The one who set the curse into motion (the grandma) knew she was Paimon. But she kinda removed herself from the family and was really secretive. So despite them all being pawns in a helpless game, none of them realized it.
Something I'd love to see in the next game, and somewhat expect to, is to see more ancient connections to the races in Hyrule as they are represented now.
I.E.: Seeing the past forms of the Rito or the Zora represented in historical carvings or records as we delve into the depths of Hyrule and into the sky.
It would also blow my mind to find out a legitimate connection between the Loftwings and the Rito, though I doubt we will find this connection.
Another thing I expect to see or hear about is Fi. Disjointed words as an attempt to communicate, with whatever spirit resides in that arm trying to help us piece her back together as we repair the Master Sword.
Lastly I'd love to believe that the arm is the 'hero's spirit'. Not just one of them, all of them. I'd love to have to delve into the memories and experiences of past heroes through some sort of magical gateways to learn new things or somehow gather useful materials needed to repair the Master Sword or just help on the journey in general.
I've got something that might be interesting to point out, well actually two things and they both relate to Phantom Hourglass.
#1: A connection between Helmaroc King from Wind Waker and Gleeoc from Phantom Hourglass. Both creatures are not just servants of darkness, but also wear similar masks. The design and color are similar especially around the mask's eyes. This leads me to wonder if while each game takes place in different oceans, is there a connection between these two monsters from their armored masks.
#2: While this one might not be as interesting, The first boss of Phantom Hourglass Blaaz looks like he is wearing an All Night Mask from Majora's Mask. Granted that might just be part of his clothing but it just looked so close to that mask.
I love theories, and I will never stop telling mine until it is in a video !
So, here's my theory in short: There is a split of timelines in Skyward Sword, but the developers/scenarists/whoever made the decision about that, didn't know how time travel works, and there are loads of inconsistencies about time travel in this game.
The theory in not short: (and sorry it might take a while, and sorry if I make mistakes, English is not my native language)
I have a very strict way of thinking how time travel works in fiction (and considering it doesn't exist aside from fiction, how time travel works at all) : what already happened can't be undone, even by time travel. That's why there are two ways of time travel to act on time :
- in the case of a closed time loop, traveling in the past doesn't change the timeline, the time travel already happened before the time traveler traveled in time ; the time travel is part of the timeline.
- in the case of a time split, traveling in the past does actually change the timeline, but considering what already happened can't not have happened, the timeline from where the time traveler comes from stays unchanged, and a new timeline derivates from the original one, with a different course of event caused by the intervention of the time traveler.
This was probably clear for most people, but it was important to state before talking about the main subject.
Speaking of which : In the end of Skyward Sword, after Link fought the Imprisoned for the last time and used the Triforce to destroy it, Ghirahim kidnaps Zelda, and travels back in time to free Demise at a time where the Imprisoned hasn't been destroyed yet. Then Link follows him in the past to fight and kill Demise, before returning to his own time with Zelda.
And here's the problem : in the future of that past, the Imprisoned doesn't exist anymore, because Demise was killed and NOT SEALED BACK INTO THE IMPRISONED as some people think.
Because the Imprisoned is the restrained form of Demise caused by the seal of the Goddess Hylia; that's why Ghirahim needs Zelda, housing the Goddess's essence, to free him. In the original timeline, Demise was sealed until Link fought him several times before using the Triforce to destroy him. Considering what happened in the past in the final act of the game, they created a new course of event where Demise was sealed into the Imprisoned for way less time, freed by Ghirahim from the future and killed by Link from the future. In the future of this course of event, the Imprisoned doesn't exist anymore, so it can't be the past of Link's present, where the Imprisoned did in fact exist. So, at this point, a new timeline has been created, with a different succession of events, because the past was changed, but the original timeline still exists, unchanged, and continues to exist on its own.
However, when Link and Zelda (and Goose) go back to the present, they find Impa and the Master Sword they just left in the past, like they've been waiting the whole time for them, which should be in a closed time loop case. That could mean they went back in the present, but of a timeline that isn't theirs. And I can't tell you how messed up this is.
And there are a bunch of hints that lead either to one or another model of time travel, because I really think the developers didn't know how time travel works, or at least not as strictly as I conceptualize it. I didn't talk about Zelda in her cristal yet, I thought I could put it aside from the timesplit paradoxe because the loop was closed before Ghirahim created the new timeline, but Impa stayed in the past so the Gate of Time was never closed, so Ghirahim traveled in a past where Zelda was in her cristal, so what happens to her if there's a time split ? And if the ending really is the end of a timeloop, how comes that Impa is here all along but not the Master Sword ? And this is not the only time the Gate of Time is used in the game, when Link plants the Tree of Life is messed up too, because when he leaves, the Tree doesn't exist in his present, but once he planted it in the past and comes back, the Tree always existed here, so why did he have to plant it in the first place ?
Now, I have a sort of solution to all the paradoxes and inconsistencies (except for the Tree of Life, this is hopeless), but it's more of a fanfiction that a proper theory. We know Goddess Hylia had a sort of foresight or future visions, and she created the Gate of Time, and I humbly assume she knows how time travel works. She may have known the Gate would be used in the future, and the possibility of either a timesplit or a timeloop. She could have given instruction to her servants who would be here at that time, namely Impa and Fi (we call her Fay in French, in Japanese she's called Fai), to do so the paradoxes of time travel would go unnoticed by the mortals. That may be why Fai insisted to stay in the past after killing Demise and absorbing the remainings of his spirit ; to go back to her original timeline would mean there would be two of Demise in the same timeline, so Impa could have sent the Master Sword of the other timeline to the original one so there is one Master Sword and one Demise in each timeline. That may be why we can't see the Master Sword in the Temple during the game as we can see Zelda's cristal and old Impa. Same goes for Ghirahim, I don't really know what happens to him when Demise is defeated, but at this point there is two of him in the timeline, so Impa and Fai would have to send one in the other.
And about Impa, actually I'm not sure, because she's from the past in the first place, but she traveled in time really early in the course of event, so I'm not sure there is another version of her in the past. But to be present in the original timeline in the end of the game, she must have used the Gate of Time to travel to it before it closes in this timeline.
Thanks for reading this far, I hope it was clear, I hope it will get someone's interest, good luck re-phrasing it for the video if you take it Mr Gamer.
What if when link is corrupted by the magic hand, his mind is sent back in time to seal Gannon in the position seen in the first trailer?
You know what I would love, if Ganondorf learns he is part of the Demise's curse and upon realizing he's been a puppet he fights with Link and Zelda to destroy Demise. Not saying he becomes a good guy or is even decent to Link or Zelda, but more in a way that he views them as tools to use to accomplish his goals.
My headcanon is that Gerudo biology must be similar to the Asari from Mass Effect, whomever they mate with, a Gerudo child is always the product.
Though there seems to be minor influence after these thousands of years, since we can see their eye colors deviating from purer Gerudo.
@@BluePhoenix_ Yeah I never understood that or why only Purah and Impa have the characteristic red irises of Sheikah. The Gerudo in BotW also have pointed ears which they didn't have before.
@@AidanRatnage as i said, most likely influences due to interbreeding with Hyrulians.
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Late to the party here. But in the case for the crossbreeding in hyrule, we can clearly see that the Gerudo are already pretty mixed, my reason for this is that in Oot and majora, Gerudo features were yellow eyes and round ears, and by the time of BoTW, they have different colored eyes and pointy ears much like hylians. thus making me believe that crossbreeding between them has been happening for centuries.
In the case of the Zora, the same reasoning can be applied. In Oot and Majora, the zora looked very similar to one another indicating a bit of inbreeding (which is not uncommon among fish) by the time of BoTW they vary wildly from one another, and assuming they are mammals by the fact they breathe air, we can speculate that hylians were breeding with Zora at some point in time.
I think the Hylian Shield in Twilight Princess IS the one from Skyward Sword. It's indestructible, and most of Link's arsenal in that game are the very same weapons that the Hero of Time (and possibly other Heroes) wielded. Malo just has connections lol
i think it might be the real, original Hylian shield from Skyward Sword. if i'm not mistaken there is a book in one of the ruins in BotW talking about artifacts the royal family was collecting so this shield might be the very same one made so long ago that the royal family found and kept safe all this time. i really hope it plays a bigger part in BotW2, completing Link's equipment set, but just like Epona and Navi i'm afraid it'll never again be as important to Link as it once was.
what if in BotW2 we’re exploring a ruined Skyloft(the sky islands🤯)and are finally going to reunite with the tri-force
I can see that happening especially since we got to see those holy springs from skyward sword in breath of the wild
I think in BoTW2, it would be really cool to find the ORIGINAL Hylian Shield hidden somewhere in the sky, and that shield will never break (assuming we have the same durability system as BoTW)
No ones talking about how a playable zelda will not only make history as zelda being playable in a main game, but it'll also change up how she works in the next smash bros game as well
I mean, the next Smash Bros won't be coming out for quite a while, but that is true :)
4:25 Watch princess Zelda not be playable, but a loftwing shows up in the underground, and you play as the loftwing instead.
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all i am going to add is this, the Gerudo have been affected by breeding with Hylian's, the ear's, if you look back at Ocarina of Time the Gerudo had Round Ear's but now because of the 100's or even longer of breeding with hylian's there ear's have changed to be the same as Hylian's ear's in Breath of the Wild!
In regards to the Loftwings, maybe they'll be back from above the Cloud Barrier (which we know still exists by BotW from whenever one of the Dragons returns to the sky).
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I'd say that Zora simply can't breed with Hylians. You'd probably have to look at species over race to determine possible pairings. Hylians, Humans like Labrynnans and Gerudo are Humans. Sheikah and Yiga are Sheikah. Sea Zora, River Zora and Rito (and maybe Parella?) and Zora, Gorons are (unsurprisingly) Gorons, et cetera.
Though this would possibly imply, given their shared heritage, Zora and Rito can crossbreed. That would be weird to see. A long lived fish and a short lived bird rolled into one.
Also, given that Koroks come from Kokiri, who come from Hylians, who come from Humans, would Koroks be able to breed with Hylians, or would their evolution into spirits cancel reproduction altogether?
Are the shekiah relly a difrent species or are they just a slightly diffrent group of humans. Like how chewawas and Shepard can breed together because they are genetically nearly the same.
@@Aceshot-uu7yx get comfy.
In Skyward Sword, the surviving Humans were sent to Skyloft. None of the Sheikah were sent to Skyloft. You only see Humans (and a stowaway Demon who later becomes Human). Impa is seen on the Durface, and some text implies that other Sheikah may have guarded Demise with her (though this is simply from ambiguous wording about "the Sheikah" guarding Demise, as it is described). The Surface Tribes are known as the non-Human Tribes. If the Sheikah Tribe is on the Surface, not with the Humans in Skyloft, then they would be a non-Human Tribe.
From Twilight Princess, it is shown that the Humans are somehow the descendants of the Oocca. I don't know whether this means that some of the Oocca evolved into Humans or whether they were created, possibly through scientific means; all we know is that Oocca are the ancestors of Humans. It is said that when the Humans began to walk the surface, the Oocca disappeared into a city in the sky that they constructed. This would mean they would exist outside the knowledge of Humans. However, the Royal Family still knows of them. How? Through the Sheikah, who act as mediators between the Oocca and Hylians. As such, this may mean that Sheikah and Oocca existed together at the same time, which would have to be before the existence of the Humans, which would make the Sheikah not Human.
On top of that, if Sheikah were Human, they'd be able to breed with all the races that Gerudo can breed with. Since Gerudo are (basically) only women, but Sheikah are both men and women, then the Sheikah numbers should generally always remain higher than Gerudo numbers, because any Human could be used to make a Sheikah baby, as opposed to only male Humans for the Gerudo.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 I think the occa are the ancestors in terms of culture and knowledge given how the goddess faore made all life it makes me think the the sky chickens are one of the first groups and created a civilization and taught humans how to be civilized.
The shekiah being a diffrent species seems so odd because they look more human than the gerudo but it is a game
@@Aceshot-uu7yx they could be cultural ancestors, but it would be weird then that, if the Oocca civilised the Humans, the Humans would essentially forget all about them, their sort of creators. They don't forget about the Goddesses is such a manner.
I could argue that the Sheikah were made by Hylia to serve her, and thus were created in her image. Maybe it's the case then that Hylia transformed some of the Oocca into Humans, like how Valoo made the Zora into Rito or the Great Deku Tree made Kokiri into Koroks. The Oocca are allegedly the closest race to Hylia, so maybe she shaped them to be even closer to her, creating Humans.
Also looks don't necessarily denote relationships. Nejirons, for example, look like Gorons because they evolved to - it's a hunting mechanism, but they themselves are not at all Gorons.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 well it would fit with the occas more 👽 appearance kind of like the theory of the Egyptians being affected by aliens.
Honestly A Loftwing Being Under Ground Probably Want Happen. But In Some Ways It Does Make Since! If It Was A Young Loftwing With a Hurt Wing Could Have Fallen Down There. But Of Course A Loftwing Would Age So Maybe We Could At Least Find Loftwing Bones.
I have a theory about the save and respawn mechanics:
When we save the timeline is split to make sure there always at least 1 timeline with the hero still living
And i have an other theory about the map walls:
Its that they are sheikah protection protocol to prevent ganon from destroying more than Hyrule or escaping like the quarantine platform in Subnautica
And for the first submission, the point that talk about how Urbosa call Zelda isn't valid because in French (and maybe other languages), she call her "madame"
I like the 1st idea with a loftwing, maybe we find and egg being down underground.
I've always thought the dragons might have been the goddesses. Cool to see others have thought this too.
It would be cool if there was a mechanical Loftwing so it provides the gameplay advantages of flying around the map, but fits into the fact that Loftwings are extinct just that it's an homage to the species. I don't know, I just think flying around Hyrule would be cool
A thing to keep in mind in regards to the curse is in the Japanese version of Skyward Sword it's known as the curse of the Demon Tribe. Demise isn't specifically named Demise, he's called the Bringer of Demise. There is evidence that the curse isn't completely from him but the Demon Tribe as a whole.
That also plays into a theory where Malice is the true source of demons, and that Demise is just one of the creatures spawned from that stuff.
@@generaltechnomage306 Yep
When you mentioned that loftwing can't realistically be underground, I thought that maybe the underground is inside of a sky island. There's no proof but it might be a way for a loftwing to get there.
For the second theory the dragons could be connected to the goddesses in a way that uses them to repair the master sword
Another theory I’ve had that builds off of the work of a few theories I’ve seen and a bit of my own. BoTW is not a cycle of demise’s curse.
First of all calamity Ganon isn’t a reincarnation of evil it is ganondorf (from the sequel trailer) trying to kill link and Zelda before he awakens. I’ll get back to that. Evidence for this is that the master sword (or four sword) isn’t needed to kill him like in every other Zelda game and the bow of light can be replaced with ancient arrows for DBG.
Next the master sword isn’t the real master sword it is a Sheikah replication like the royal guards weapons. This is supported by the sheikah monks upgrading it. Next the BoTW trailer showing the broken master sword shows it made of swirls like the patterns on shrines and towers.
So it’s not a reincarnation of evil and it’s not the master sword. Yes it’s link the hero and yes it’s Zelda with her sealing power - but wait in all other Zelda games zelda’s power is ready for ganon, but she hasn’t awakened it by Ganon’s arrival making me think the goddess wasn’t needed at that moment. However with ganondorf in BoTW 2 then that is what her power was supposed to awaken for. It only awakened earlier to save the hero.
Now to prove its not a part of the cycle we must mention one key point it’s a RE incarnation of evil not an incarnation of evil the last reincarnation of evil is still alive and that was probably done to stop a reincarnation happening by the royal family 10,000 years ago. So BoTW isn’t a part of the cycle.
For the -Tale of the Royal Guard-, the Hylian Shield in BotW might be more of an ornamental item. They leave the legendary shield protected by the beast of the dungeon. As part of test, the knight taking this test would retrieve it as proof of victory, but not keep it.
Compare it to the tradition in Minish Cap where the winner of the tournament gets to touch the Picori Blade, but not keep it since there's only one.
Loftwing egg could have been dormant down there and Zelda's power cracks it open
Maybe the shield in the castle is the real one cuz of its magical properties because when a soldier is done fighting the bone man (forgot his name) they can prezent it to the Royal family indicating that he won because it wouldn't pop up in the chest if u don't win or chicken out, so they would give him a replica of it which is why u could buy them from the shop guy because they were probably made outside of the castle and shipped meaning that the shop would still be standing and running
I ones had a theory that Makar island is a reference to BOTW2. You go to a lonely island in the middle of nowhere. There’s one dead tree which symbolizes Ganondorf. You pick up the rock under the tree, which symbolizes the cave in which you find Ganondorf. Under that rock you find a single piece of flint, you use that flint to light the fire. It might symbolize you awakening Ganondorf, because monsters spawn right after you light it (or sleep there). The spawning monsters symbolize the malice coming out of Ganondorf. And then there’s the fast wind when leaving the island, which symbolizes the sky in BOTW2.
I hope that this theory gets seen! Took me a while to think of, and I almost fully believe in this theory!
Ganondorf being a warlock and a demon king is most definitely aware of some of the nature of the demon tribe's curse of death and resurrection but not aware of it's ancient origins
For example in the Japanese version of Wind waker Ganondorf shows awareness that the demons he is controlling are members of a demon tribe(his demon tribe)
In Botw his extension is constantly resurrecting fallen demons some of them being brought back against their will
Well the loft wing theory can be like the hidden world in how to train your dragon
Or they might have evolved
Like Zora to Rito in wind waker
But the other way around
Who said that Princess Zelda is trapped underground? It looks like, from the teaser, that Link and Zelda are exploring an ancient ruin or temple.
i am against the whole dragons are goddesses theory for the sole reason that i am uncomfortable with the possible fact that botw players have been shooting female deities in the face for their teeth the last 6 years 😬
What if they enjoy it and you are kink shaming them.
@@KiomonDuck well i guess thats ok but if they are suffering then no
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I figure Gerudo reproduction with Hylians is similar to Pokémon of the same egg group without a Ditto involved. The offspring will always match the species/race of the mother, i.e. Gerudo. It's likely similar for other race pairings, so a Hylian mother and a Rito father may have a Hylian offspring, but a Hylian father and a Zora mother would likely have a Zora offspring.
Even if it _did_ make sense for the loftwing to be down there, it wouldn't be able to fly, _that's_ for sure
Always a good day when HG uploads! Love this series man, keep it up! As for my favorite theory I got to say the Hylian Shield's Origins.
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I think the Hylian Shield was this amazing artifact, as is seen is SS, but later down the line when everyone went and lived on the ground, strong shields baring the same crest were made. Maybe the proper made Hylian Shield replicas were given to elite guards or something along those lines, but not super common, whereas regular blacksmith made shields were sold at shops with a crest slightly different than the actual thing. (Taking the fact OoT's shield had a different style was probably because they didn't have the design nailed down and would be universal by TP.) Maybe in TP it was in the shop because there are less of them actually around and Malo was able to find one? He definitely has some weird and not exactly normal items in his shop after all. Then by BotW there are so few left that they've become this legendary shield again. Just a thought.
I like to believe that the hylian shield in skyward sword is one of a kind. And that it still exists, hidden away in the sky.
The one from botw was a replica made to be a one to one copy, it however isnt the original, the original was given to the first hero from skyward sword from one of the dragons. The shields in oot are a homage to the hero's original shield, to keep the memory of the first hero alive and would be a symbol of a knights courage in the face of battle.
Around the era of Twilight Princess, the shield would be one of a kind, a redesign that would be wielded by a courageous high ranking knight, one which would be killed during zants invasion then passed down and eventually sold. Likely cleaned and reinforced and purchased by mere chance by the hero of Twilight.
One big problem with the returning Loftwing theory is that the creators themselves have said that the Loftwings are extinct as a way to explain their one off appearance in Skyward Sword.......So, with that in mind, the only way this would work would be if there was a time travel aesthetic or feature to the game, which would allow you to go back in time, find a Loftwing, tame it and fly it around in the past, or maybe even bring it back with you to the future.........Depends on the mechanics they went by.......Sometimes, bringing something with you, back from the past, isn't shown to be too kind on the item or object you brought with you into the future, even causing it to sustain the same wear and aging it would have if you had left it there in the past, like the Dominion Rod. Other times, it does next to nothing to it.....Imagine the player trying to bring their Loftwing with them to the future, only for it to age to a pile of fossilized bones!
late to the party but:
I think another sky based friend of Link's might make a reappearance in BOTW2 as well as the Loftwings now that they are headed up to the sky.
I know there are bones in BOTW 1 that might kind of disprove this but!
I believe the Windfish, or rather, a Descendant of the Windfish, is going to make an appearance as either a dungeon or a perquisite storyline for a dungeon
Theory BOTW's sequel will have multiple end goals unlike past titles and here's my rational behind why, and how it would work.
1. In a large open world game with multiple quests it just makes sense to to have various endings for completing said tasks.
2. Unlike BOTW which only offered minor rewards for completing primary side quests like the Divine Beasts or gathering memories said objectives would offer differing endings as well as additional bosses / dungeons.
3. Well use this as hypothetical from what we know of the series. Lets say in the sequel you rush straight to Hyrule Castle. This ends in a fight against mummified Ganondorf, and unlocks the basic ending to the game. If instead you complete all primary dungeons before going to Hyrule Castle you now unlock a new fight after Mummified Ganondorf against a fully rejuvenated Ganondorf, which upon completion rewards a more satisfying ending. Finally if you complete all dungeons as well as some specific optional side quests before going to the castle, after beating the previous two aforementioned fights you now unlock one final dungeon culminating in the ultimate battle against the essence of demise, as well as the true ending of the story.
4. It's an great way of rewarding players for going the extra distance to explore and experience the whole game, as well as creating more robust postgame potential.
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That Dragon theory was BASICALLY proven true in TotK 😂
11:51 We can ask Age of Calamity Link in about 9-10 in-universe months, lol
Maybe the deities seen on previous games, namely Skyward sword and Twilight princess were the ones that were reborn into the three dragons keeping their duties as the guardians of their regions
I don’t think Ganondorf knows who Demise is or exactly what the curse is, but in The Wind Waker he accepts his destiny which is to pursue the Triforce. So he, at least in The Wind Waker, doesn’t know the origin or curse but realises his fate.
I propose a question to you good sir: in a game with many things in groups of three, why does Hyrule only have two heroes? Technically Zelda is not THE hero, but her importance is still very significant. Zelda has been shown to have precognition (and retro cognition in the manga) the ability to heal, telepathy, sensory abilities (wither it's an approaching calamity or sensing darkness in the hearts of man) the ability to sense and speak with spirits, the power to break curses, purify and seal evil, as well as being a skilled sorceress and being able to wield a sword and bow. Zelda (like Link) is a tool to fit whatever role the Hero/Hyrule needs her to be. Does he need a guide? Zelda can predict the future and has enough knowledge to give Link any information he may need without confusion. Does he need an archer to watch his back? Zelda's got him covered with magic arrows. The point is, if you were to tell me that Zelda could/should be considered a Hero I would agree with you. So then my question is, why was Din left out when it came to getting/choosing a hero? Well my theory is, that there is a third hero. Who has the Triforce of Power? Who is around (usually) whenever the Triforce is a major point in the game? Who is a major powerhouse in every category? Who knows ancient and incredible magic? Who wields a giant sword like he's swinging a round a stick? It's Ganondorf. My guess is that after Hylia gave up her divine form and Demise was finally taken care of the Goddess looked into why Hylia tuned herself mortal, after all she is the caretaker of their favorite world, why all of a sudden can she no longer preform her assigned duties? Seeing the threat Demise was and his curse I believe The Three Goddesses choose their champions: an early incarnation of Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf. This could even be early enough in the timeline when Hyrule was still an incredibly young country so written history wasn't recorded yet. Likely between Skyward Sword and Minish Cap. During this time Demise attempted to take over the world but was completely defeated by the three heroes. Knowing that these three and their piece's of the Triforce (perhaps not sealed in the sacred realm yet) were incredibly strong and close he schemed a way to tear them apart. Now this next part can be split into 2 other theories: an incarnation of Demise once again threatened Hyrule and our three heroes rose to stop him. But during the last moments of the battle Ganondorf is struck with Demise's curse and Link and Zelda are forced to kill him (or a cool, heroic Ganondorf absorbs the curse to protect the other two knowing only he is strong enough to handle it but becomes possessed) this curse then tragically becomes attached to the soul of someone who reincarnates. Or the curse attached itself to a young Ganondorf (before he meets the other two) and leads him down the path of evil before his blessing from Din awakens then reincarnates with him. This part could take place during the events that lead up to Ocarina of Time. I'm attached to the first as it makes Demise more evil and fearsome. There is a lot of fan art around the internet for a "good Ganondorf who becomes corrupted" which is how I came up with this theory but I do have to say I very much like it. I ask you again; why is Din left out when it comes to getting a hero? It's not like the Hyruleans treat her like an evil Goddess. Anyway, hope this gets a "hmm" from people."
My burning Zelda Question is simple: What's up with Impa & "The King of Hyrule"?
We know why Link, Zelda, and Ganon show-up so often thanks to Skyward Sword. But _Impa?_ She's not part of the reincarnation/whatever, yet she's been in:
1) The Legend of Zelda (referenced only)
1.5) The Adventure of Link (referenced only)
2. Ocarina of Time
3) Oracle of Seasons
3.5) Oracle of Ages
4) Skyward Sword
5) A Link Between Worlds
6) Hyrule Warriorrs
7) Breath of the Wild
7.5) Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity
Okay, yeah, each Impa COULD be just named after the original, much like "all princesses are named Zelda", especially as almost no Impa ever resembles a previous iteration. BUT! The same _cannot_ be said of "The King of Hyrule"! Across the Zelda series we see the King six times, each with individual names (if given):
A. King of Hyrule (Adventure of Link - referenced in backstory and artwork provided in manual)
B. King of Hyrule (A Link to the Past - as shown in the credits)
C. King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule (The Wind Waker)
D. King Daltus (The Minish Cap - current king)
R. King Gustaf (The Minish Cap- spirit of the previous king)
F. King Rhoam Bosphoramus Hyrule (Breath of the Wild)
All of these Kings could be carbon copies of each other. There's more variance between various _Princess Zeldas_ than there are between her various fathers! That...shouldn't be possible.
Bonus Question: Does King Rhoam's name of "Rhoam Bosphoramus" mean, "Wander(ing) Mountain Shephard", with "Rhoam" meaning "wander", "Bosphor" being the Turkish word for "Balken" (meaning "Mountain"), and -"amus" being a slightly altered version of the name "Amos", meaning "shepherd"? If so...does that ever well fit the character...
...And fits with the theme behind the previous King "Daphnes", which would be an off way of pluralizing the name "Daphne(s)", which is Greek for a Laurel tree...and the Laurel Tree in Greek myth coming from the story of a _water_ nymph _transformed_ into a _tree_ to escape the _God of War..._
Impaz from twilight princess stats she was named after the same impa who founded "old kakariko" from ocarina of time.
I have a theory that there are 3 or 4 Triforces. Not the Tetraforce. Basically in OoT Ganon touches the Triforce and it gets split between him, Zelda and Link. He is sent to the Sacred Real still holding the ToP. Following the adult timeline he still has it, and somehow the ToC gets split into 8 pieces and Princess Zelda's descandants split the ToW into 2 pieces. But at the same time, Link comes back in the child timeline holding his ToC (which apparently got split into 8 pieces) Ganondorf has his as shown before the failed execution, Zelda has hers in TP and so does Link. Then in the downfall timeline Ganon has the whole Triforce (even though Link was sucessful in the adult timeline, and put a stop to Ganon's plans in the child timeline. I guess this is just an alternate reality) and then Lorule has its own Triforce. But yeah, how can the Triforce get split into 8 pieces and at the same time be in Link's possesion in TP? I guess Ganon wasn't aware he had the ToP until he was about to be executed because in the child timeline most of OoT events never happened. IDK man
This video was worth the wait! Great job HG!
Thanks!
2. I think the 3 dragons in SS & BotW are the same, as they protect the same regions that they always have. Also, Lightning & Water go hand in hand & both deserts & tundras are baren wastelands.
3. I think the curse is specifically about Ganondorf, as he looks like Demise, especially the hair, so it could be referring to him reincarnating to plague Link & Zelda ever so often. Given the fact that it probably took a while for him to be completely purified in the Master Sword, thus killed, it would explain why Ganon didn't appear until OoT. The only games where he died, instead of being sealed, are TP, LttP & LoZ. He was reincarnated after TP to be sealed in 4SA, resurrect & was sealed in the Oracle games after LttP, though being brain dead due to the resurrection.
5. I think the original will appear in BotW2 being truly unbreakable.
heres a interesting thuoght, maybe the reason for the happy mask sells man, is hes the spirit of majoras mask giving pyshical form to find a worthy warrior to help keep the spirit of majora in check or reseal it every so often, it would expline the reason he said followed link, an knows so much about termina, about the masks within it, the fact the world is similer yet different, an doing the proper ending has the response of the spirit seemingly at rest, even how the 3 day magic works an the sells man is able to seemingly save link an restart what was last done, he has power in the world but its also limited
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I’m really excited because I can only imagine restoring the master sword to be lots of fun.
I think it’s gonna be a return of demise as the sword is broken
my theory is the hylian shield is just a different shield every time, as you said its just a well made shield. and looking at how defensive it is in every iteration of the games just tanking everything thrown at it but being eating my a like like. makes me think its made in a way how the master sword is without the extra magic, which is why the thunder dragon could have one since he was dealing with the area with mining ores and such. the process of making it probably is vary specific so it can flucuate in price of making one, so in OOT and TP area they probably could produce a larger more amount of them vs the other times in the series
Hylian + Zora = Kevin Costner’s character in Waterworld.
There is the possibility that the original Hylian shield was held onto by the Royal Family since Skyward Sword. The other shields made are replicas of the original. By the time of BotW, it's the only shield left in existence as the replicas vanished overtime. How they vanished would be the mystery.
I would assume that the origonal was known about and people tried to duplicate it so everyone in the Hyrule army could use it. They later tried other sheilds and the Hyrule sheild knock off became scarce and sold at individual vendors as a collectible. I think what you buy in the later installments would be the replicas of the original considered rare because it's no longer being mass produced for the army.
10:07 when it comes to fantasy races in media that doesn't depict mixed species, I just assume it works off pokemon logic. The child would be whatever the mother (or equivalent of) is. a human would give birth to a human, an anthro fish would have an anthro fish 🤷
I feel like its that the first Hylian Shield was an artifact but during the time of Ocarina of Time they developed the Hylian Shields for the knights as a sign of courage towards the knights to empower them, making them a common item. I wouldn't say that they would actually be the legit Hylian Shield but more of a regular shield. But down the timeline they would gradually forget about it and it would become rarer and rarer.
Even if the shield's lore was written as a magic artifact after his first appereance in ocarina of time, it still makes lots of sense.
Hyrulian army started to use a shield based on the magical artifact the hero utilized on legends to defeat evil. After that, the hero of time utilized one of that shields to defeat the king of evil on Hyrule's darkest hour. Thats the shield we find on BOTW, passed by Royal family generation to generation. Is quite simple.
Even if the royal guards stoped utilizing the original Hylian shield design, they kept a design based on this one as we can see on BOTW. In fact not only the shield but the royal sword also reminds to the master sword.
Glad you're back at the videos! What if the end of BotW 2 results in a full circle to A Link to the Past due to link failing to stop Ganon? Just saying, he can reverse time with objects in the new trailer...
I always have my personal lore that Malon from OoT has a gerudo mother. If you talk with her father with a gerudo (and goron) mask he comments that it looks like his wife (maybe a fat gerudo). My theory is that the gerudo do what the ancient greek amazonias did in myths, they took a husband and procreate and if the child was female they took it with them and if it was male it went with the father. Maybe gerudo did something similar, something like if the child was female and looked like a gerudo it was taken to the desert and if not it stayed with the husband and because even thou Malon had red hair she had the pointy ears and skin tone of an hylian it stayed with her father.
I'd like to see the connection between Demise and Ganondorf explored more and I personally believe Demise's curse is directly responsible for the lack of any Gerudo male at the time of BoTW.
We know that the curse of Demise dates back to SS, but Ganondorf didn't first appear until much, much later. My guess is that it took thousands of years for Demise's curse to actually kick in and once the original Ganondorf was born the curse was awakened in him, completely unbeknownst to him.
It was at this very point that the Gerudo male curse also kicked in - only one male Gerudo can exist at any one time, that always being Ganondorf. Whether he simply dies of old age or is slain by some kid with a bug net, the one and only Gerudo male is and will always be Ganondorf. I personally believe that's how Demise's curse was manifested.
I believe that after Ganon was defeated [in - insert game here] many tens of thousands of years ago, Ganon was reborn as a mortal Gerudo Male. He of course became king of the Gerudo. Somehow someone knew of, or simply figured out, the cycle of Ganon and realized that Ganondorf would one day become evil again, so at some point, probably some sort of ceremony, judging by his attire in the trailer, they tricked him in to entering a cave system deep below Hyrule where they sealed him with the green hand to keep him in a state between life and death to halt the rebirth cycle.
What's more is this theory also now explains why there hasn't been a Gerudo male for centuries at the time of BoTW - Because Ganondorf has been sealed away somewhere under Hyrule the entire time. He isn't dead, therefor cannot be reborn or resurrected, he's merely restrained in a dormant state, trapped inside a decaying mortal body but unable to die. This, I believe, is the purpose of the green hand we see in the trailer - It's some sort of magical seal that was used to halt Ganon's rebirth cycle. By the time of BoTW the hand has grown weak and Ganon is able to manifest his malice and take on a spectral bestial form - Dark Beast Ganon. I wonder if whoever cast the green hand spell somehow learned of Demise's curse and the cycle of Ganon; that Ganon's mortal form was always a Gerudo king named Ganondorf, and realized that killing Ganondorf would merely renew the cycle, so instead they attempted to seal him forever. What we do know is that Ganondorf has been held down there for literal centuries as the legend that is told in BoTW clearly states that it's actually Calamity that keeps on reappearing over tens of thousands of years, which is essentially Ganon's spectral malice form. To put it more simply - Demon Ganon is trapped within a mortal body, Ganondorf, and his malice is now leaking out from that mortal body because the seal that binds him has weakened over the centuries.
I believe that in BoTW2 we'll see that green hand expire and combine with Link, granting him new strange abilities, but also that Ganondorf won't just come back to life - how could he in such a state? Instead we'll see Ganondorf die and then transform in to Ganon the demon. Instead of merely defeating Ganon in combat it'll be Link's task to seal him away once and for all.... unless he breaks free again a few millennia later! After all it is pointless in killing Ganon as he'll just be reborn or resurrected and will return.
And on the topic of Gerudo-Hylian children. I'd honestly like to think that the above curse extends to them also and that they're all born as Gerudo Vai no matter what. That's honestly the only explanation as to how the Gerudo haven't become extinct or how their genes haven't been all but wiped out by now. If this Gerudo-Hylian mating custom has been going on for so long, literal thousands of years, countless generations, then it'd only stand to reason that every single Gerudo Vai in existence is only something like 1:1000 part Gerudo. There's just no way that any of them with so much Hylian blood in their veins would turn out with crimson hair and pointed noses, let alone their incredible physique. Bring that curse back to the equation and say that no matter what any Gerudo Vai will give birth to a full-blooded Gerudo Vai child then it all begins to makes sense again. There are a few light skin and extra thicc ladies in Gerudo Town, though. Perhaps they have way more Hylian blood than normal?
As for the shield: Simple; They're all fake. The only true Hylian Shield was seen in SS and the rest after that were replicas - extremely well made replicas in BoTW, but still just a replica. Otherwise it wouldn't break... which is just kinda shit tbh. Why not just have it recover over time like the Mastersword?
In regards to the first Hylian shield I'd point out only the item description said it couldn't be broken. It was only ever described by the one who gave it to you as "absurdly sturdy".
Interesting how the only other shield passed down from family generations is the shield the hero of time used that hangs on the wall in Link's house in Wind Waker.
What if the hero that defeated the calamity 10,000 years ago was the current link and then in the sequel we time travel and see hyrule from 10,000 years ago
11:30 ~ There's also the possibility that ... since we don't see other references os the pairing, It's a safe assumption to say that they can't really generate a offspring.
What would justify that, even thought the species live for millennia in a friendly relationship, free to come and go from the others territories, their "tribes" still live secluded from one another.
Note: I'm not saying that they shouldn't have their own territories. But any person you find on a territory, that is from another tribe, it's either a traveler or a peddler, you don't have residents (even in the castle town).