Hi Bill I have not tried it yet but this is exactly the situation I am facing, having lost the keys and getting to the point where the bit has fallen sideways. Now I know that I can use a " shim" and fish around until I have slipped it back into its slot. Many thanks, big guy you are the best.
I'm excited to give this a go over the weekend. My kitchen door has been unusable for such a long time because I lost the key and locksmith charging over £100!
hi bill, nice vid. but i thought id add some extra info for the viewers because reading the comments below iv noticed a lot of mention where people are getting stuck because the cam wont budge. seems you just jumped ahead 1 step from the beginning. the reason the cam wont budge is because these particular viewers are trying to remove the barrel after they have just opened the door- which means that the handle has clicked back and is still clicked back, if so the barrel cam wont turn unless the the handle is in the forward/closed position. plus 1 other tip which is alot easier is under the barrel where the handles screws where , if you look up in the whole you have much better access to the cam and you can use any tool up to the thickness of a normal sized phillips screwdriver to turn the cam.
This worked for me without the key, thanks a lot! A bit of WD40 also helped loosen the rotating latch. I used the metal file on a Victorinox Swiss knife to nudge it around.
In case anyone else has this question: Just follow the same procedure and once the barrel is snapped out use an Allen key in the gap to flip the levers to open the door.
Yeah great advice Bill 👍. As my lock tab was seized up I ended up taking the door off turned it upside down used a small screwdriver and hammer to tap it around to 12 o'clock. Cheers, Keep it up 👍👍
Thank you. I was very annoyed, and didnt want to watch a vid to be able to get this thing out, but i am glad i did, i got it out, now i can go to bunnings and get a new cylinder. The lock itself is so expensive. i have a stalker and am renting so changing the screen door locks is the only option (police are no help) having a former housemate who has a screw loose and a kept a set of keys is very disturbing.
Omg, I almost didn't believe you but it turns out just needed some WD40 as I read in other comments and 30 seconds later... done! Thank you. That's awesome 👌
Hi Bill. One question..... Were your key hanging on the inside of the door? I don't know about the euro cylinders down under, but the only way( in Europe) what you did is possible is if the key is in the lock in the inside of the door,which kind of defeats the point of the video . in Europe every euro cylinder i own have touched or picked ,the cam will only turn if one side of lock is open, with a key a comb or a pick. The reason I ended up watching your video was because I was researching, trying to make a tool to bypass directly to the cam, I know they exist but I had never seen one, and the reason they exist and I want to make one is , if it is going to take too long or you can't pick it open, the cam won't turn and if the cam won't turn , you cannot change a lock without a key, without force or damage. The one exception I have come across is a company called " Tesa" Where the cam does not stick out in locked position the 8nly thing holding it in is the screw,, when you remove the key the cam is inline with the lock body, I am thankful for this , because Tesa for some reason from all the locks i have tried ,is the only euro cylinder I cannot pick open, they look the same as most of the others , but they do not feel the same inside.
Thanks, this helped a lot. Wasn't what I needed, but while trying to shim a cam that would not turn it clicked that the lock had to be in the locked position, after which fitting the new cylinder was easy.
Yes Bro you do fantastic work! thank you so much for your tutorial. You have saved a lot of ppl a few hundred dollars to get some expert to charge them $200 for 20 mins work!
I spent ages trying to get the cam to return to the 12 o’clock position, but it just wouldn’t budge. I fixed it in the end by taking the door down off its hinges and turning the whole door itself upside down!! 🤣👍👍
I could not get a paper clip in. Not enough space. So I hammered a nail flat. That worked however the latch won't move. In the end I had to drill it out with 4 holes at the side of the lock. That was actually not too hard.
Very helpful, thanks. I have to do this for my son's front door as he lost both sets of keys (yep, told him he's a muppet). I don't any lock picks so will try a paperclip.
20 years a locksmith in Europe and I have never seen a pin tumbler euro lock that could be manipulated like that. It seems that this euro cylinder is a disc tumbler version with a loose cam that can move independently of the cores. Maybe it’s specific to this type of screen door used Down Under
You are correct. It will not work on any lock I have ever seen. The cam is locked unless the key is inserted. Also , snapping the lock is a fallacy. The barrel normally sticks out only a few mm making it virtually impossible to grip effectively. In addition, the amount that you can move the lock is restricted by the door itself. Looks great in a video where you place the lock in a vice and snap it. In real life, it will not be possible.
Thanks, awesome video, like you said, hair clip worked a treat and was out quickly. just wanted to say thanks like so many others i'm sure you've helped.
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Absolutely genius, I was about to start drilling out the lock! Had the cylinder out in under 60 seconds. Thanks bud!
Glad I could help 👍
@@billshowto how you'll do if the key it's lostedand the door it's closed?
I have another video on how to snap the lock 👍
I found using a sewing needle pushed through the gap and then I can slide it from both sides to move the pin worked great. Thank you for the tip.
Hi Bill I have not tried it yet but this is exactly the situation I am facing, having lost the keys and getting to the point where the bit has fallen sideways. Now I know that I can use a " shim" and fish around until I have slipped it back into its slot. Many thanks, big guy you are the best.
I'm excited to give this a go over the weekend. My kitchen door has been unusable for such a long time because I lost the key and locksmith charging over £100!
Excellent! Absolute genius. You saved me a call to a locksmith. Thanks
hi bill, nice vid. but i thought id add some extra info for the viewers because reading the comments below iv noticed a lot of mention where people are getting stuck because the cam wont budge. seems you just jumped ahead 1 step from the beginning. the reason the cam wont budge is because these particular viewers are trying to remove the barrel after they have just opened the door- which means that the handle has clicked back and is still clicked back, if so the barrel cam wont turn unless the the handle is in the forward/closed position. plus 1 other tip which is alot easier is under the barrel where the handles screws where , if you look up in the whole you have much better access to the cam and you can use any tool up to the thickness of a normal sized phillips screwdriver to turn the cam.
Fantastic tip on how to remove the cylinder if you have to key
This worked for me without the key, thanks a lot!
A bit of WD40 also helped loosen the rotating latch. I used the metal file on a Victorinox Swiss knife to nudge it around.
Awesome however how does one do this if your door is shut and locked in place? Can’t get to the side screws mate
In case anyone else has this question: Just follow the same procedure and once the barrel is snapped out use an Allen key in the gap to flip the levers to open the door.
@@NAFO_Badger_Brigade doesn't work, it won't budge if it is locked. The issue is not with flipping the levers.
Thanks! Quick fix, 5min to pick the tool, 5min to fight it but off in no time
Yeah great advice Bill 👍. As my lock tab was seized up I ended up taking the door off turned it upside down used a small screwdriver and hammer to tap it around to 12 o'clock.
Cheers, Keep it up 👍👍
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I think I might have to do this as the gap is too tight to stick anything down it
Thank you. I was very annoyed, and didnt want to watch a vid to be able to get this thing out, but i am glad i did, i got it out, now i can go to bunnings and get a new cylinder. The lock itself is so expensive. i have a stalker and am renting so changing the screen door locks is the only option (police are no help) having a former housemate who has a screw loose and a kept a set of keys is very disturbing.
Thank you for good video, feel confident to remove cylinder with no key. I appreciate your knowledge shared.
Thanks! Worked! Appreciate your help.
You’re welcome 👍
Love your work ..simple to the point..what I was looking for as key lost ...brilliant. 5 stars...
Thx very much you saved me a lot of heartache very happy new subscriber
But the little piece inside won't move freely without the key in the lock I know because I tried it 20 secs ago
HOWD you open eventually?
A hammer with the handle fully off a professional widow fitter turned up nd was like wack it down hard so I did haha
Thanks mate. I used a garbage tie, worked well.
You are a legend. Your video helped me removing the screen door lock.
Excellent!!! You explained everything clearly!!!❤
Omg, I almost didn't believe you but it turns out just needed some WD40 as I read in other comments and 30 seconds later... done! Thank you. That's awesome 👌
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Thanks mate, paper clip was a bit too flimsy but daughters bobby pin worked a treat😅
Fantastic Bill
Most modern cylinder locks don't allow the free movement of the locking part without the key only cheap flimsy ones like in this video.
I found this out. I have to pick the lock to turn the barrel.
Hi Bill.
One question.....
Were your key hanging on the inside of the door?
I don't know about the euro cylinders down under, but the only way( in Europe) what you did is possible is if the key is in the lock in the inside of the door,which kind of defeats the point of the video . in Europe every euro cylinder i own have touched or picked ,the cam will only turn if one side of lock is open, with a key a comb or a pick.
The reason I ended up watching your video was because I was researching, trying to make a tool to bypass directly to the cam, I know they exist but I had never seen one, and the reason they exist and I want to make one is , if it is going to take too long or you can't pick it open, the cam won't turn and if the cam won't turn , you cannot change a lock without a key, without force or damage.
The one exception I have come across is a company called " Tesa"
Where the cam does not stick out in locked position the 8nly thing holding it in is the screw,, when you remove the key the cam is inline with the lock body, I am thankful for this , because Tesa for some reason from all the locks i have tried ,is the only euro cylinder I cannot pick open, they look the same as most of the others , but they do not feel the same inside.
YES!!! My experience too. The cam on my lock does not turn UNLESS it is unlocked. I had to drill mine out.
Great video - to the point with several options
Brilliant. Lost my key. This helped
Just the video I needed, thanks mate!!
Superb advice at 2:20 ! Thanks for posting this video!
Hey I can get a bobby pin in there but it does budge at all ???? any ideas
Cheers mate you saved me a call out fee for replacing these whitco locks Legend
Bloody legend. I was ready kick my door out. Thanks mate..
You’re welcome 👍
Thank you my friend. Give me a call when you ever come to Hawaii! I'll take care of you.
Just used your vid to replace mine. Thankyou
You’re welcome 👍
You are the best of all.
Brilliant Mate, can fix the bugger Lock now.
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worked a treat thanks
I was about to pick the lock. Glad someone is thinking straight enough to guide me to just pick the cam.
Thank you Bill, that has answered my Questions.....Happy New Year, mate.....From Australa
Thanks so much, saved money just buying the cylinder. If I can do it anyone can.
Great instructions. Had the barrel out in about a minute! Thanks!
Very straight forward bill. Thanks👍👍.
Thankyou!!!
The man.. thanks Bill
Awsome thanks man
That was incredible, thank you... be proud of your short video, you are saving people a TON of time , hope you get lots of views (subscribed!)
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Thank you so much! Our sliding door was jammed and we didn’t have a key. Your video worked a great
You’re welcome 👍
Legend! Thank you, all sorted now
Brilliant.
Thanks, this helped a lot. Wasn't what I needed, but while trying to shim a cam that would not turn it clicked that the lock had to be in the locked position, after which fitting the new cylinder was easy.
Thanks so much ,ive got to replace a lock with no key.
Yes Bro you do fantastic work! thank you so much for your tutorial. You have saved a lot of ppl a few hundred dollars to get some expert to charge them $200 for 20 mins work!
Excellent mate. Thanks for sharing.
Big help. Thanks
Brilliant idea
Thank you.. I almost wanted to use my grinder to cut it.. thanks
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Thanks a million! You saved my life :)
Thanks ☺️🙏
Simple & easy to follow. Saved me $$! Thank you mate! 👍🏽
Legend, you saved me!
U are the best mann👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿tnx a lot
Fantastic. Thanks
Most euro cylinders I've changed have the cam locked and won't budge without a key, or excessive force
Brilliant tip thanks, got mine sorted in mins 👍👍
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thanks heaps yu saved us the cost of a locksmith just $20 for a new barrel
Legend 👍
Legend, thanks matey.
FIshing line works the trick too!
Thank God it worked. Thank you!
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Thanks bro, you saved my about 100 quid on a locksmiths, you got a subscribe from me
You are super star my friend, thank you
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I spent ages trying to get the cam to return to the 12 o’clock position, but it just wouldn’t budge.
I fixed it in the end by taking the door down off its hinges and turning the whole door itself upside down!! 🤣👍👍
Your hack worked! 😬
Thank you!
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Thank you verry much. finnally removed the bad lock!!! 10/10
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I could not get a paper clip in. Not enough space. So I hammered a nail flat. That worked however the latch won't move.
In the end I had to drill it out with 4 holes at the side of the lock. That was actually not too hard.
Very helpful, thanks. I have to do this for my son's front door as he lost both sets of keys (yep, told him he's a muppet). I don't any lock picks so will try a paperclip.
Thanks, it worked :)
Many thanks you legend. That was very helpful.🤟👍👊
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Thanks bro,... you made my life easy
Bill the life saver, thanks for this video it came in very handy today , Simon 👍
Well done Bill. Thanks
Great video.. worked for me... Cheers
Very helpful thank you
thanks Mate
Sweet! This video just saved me some serious cash. Thanks bro!
You’re welcome 👍
Great video, thanks for the help.
Thanks Bill.
Thanks Bill you certainly saved me a lot of stress
Glad I could help👍👍
This doesn't work on secure style euro cylinders, the kicker can only be moved if the key is present. But I'm curious to try with older cylinders.
20 years a locksmith in Europe and I have never seen a pin tumbler euro lock that could be manipulated like that.
It seems that this euro cylinder is a disc tumbler version with a loose cam that can move independently of the cores.
Maybe it’s specific to this type of screen door used Down Under
You are correct. It will not work on any lock I have ever seen. The cam is locked unless the key is inserted. Also , snapping the lock is a fallacy. The barrel normally sticks out only a few mm making it virtually impossible to grip effectively. In addition, the amount that you can move the lock is restricted by the door itself. Looks great in a video where you place the lock in a vice and snap it. In real life, it will not be possible.
You only need 3mm to snap the lock if you have the right tool
Thanks, awesome video, like you said, hair clip worked a treat and was out quickly. just wanted to say thanks like so many others i'm sure you've helped.
You’re very welcome, I’m glad I was able to help 👍
Hey bill, loving the vids. Not sure if you have experience in plumbing, but can you make a vid on how to close and cap a gas line safely?
Very helpful and well explained
Glad you enjoyed the video 👍
I have two cylinder locks ready to replace - none of then have a freely moving cam without a key inserted.. any options? Drilling it out I guess..
I have a few videos on how to snap and replace the lock👍
Lifesaver thank you mate!
Thank you!! ❤️
Wow.. Good job.. Thanks it really helps me a lot
Thanks Bill
Thank you mate I struggled for hours trying to figure out what the hell was going on. Cheers bro.
Allan Grubb same here.
Awesome bro. You're a good man! 😎😁