2021 Lotus Evora GT Quick Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มี.ค. 2022
- The 2021 Lotus Evora GT ($125,291 CAD converted, $98,945 USD starting) is a lightweight precision sports car with a mid-engined supercharged V6 that makes a strong 416 horsepower. Available with optional rear seats, the Evora GT can carry up to 4 people and was available in either a 6-speed manual or 6 speed automatic. It also came standard with hydraulically-assisted steering and a Torsen limited-slip differential when mated with the 6-speed manual. With formidable power, a lightweight chassis, and all sorts of sports car goodies, will the Lotus Evora GT live up to Thomas and James’ expectations? Watch to find out what they think! We hope you enjoy the episode. Subscribe!!
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Hey guys, our mistake. As others have pointed out, the car does rev to 7000RPM in sport mode. Enjoy the vid!
West Country, West Midlands???? James should hand in his Passport... whilst Norfolk invokes brother on sister action and accent it is not in the West... James is too Gangsta
@@frederickvondinkerberg7721 He was just asking me to do a farmer accent. it wasn't related to Lotus HQ
@@jamesengelsman9369 I get that but farmer Norfolk (nar-fuk) and Farmer West country (farma-parma ewah iwher owher dip) are totally different... not that a Canadian would though notice eh, fore sure aboot sorree etc
Thing is, in normal mode the nannies are fully engaged (less in sport, even less in race and you can turn them off as well). So you really didn't get the complete meal, entirely missing dessert. The car is like a normally aspirated vehicle in that it continues to build power right up to redline, 7200 RPM in sport mode, never mind the 7K indicated redline. Also, that power is controlled by Lotus' brilliant traction management systems which in practice are transparent in normal operation, very difficult to feel even when engaged and intervening. So no dessert, and no soup for you either!
Your tester had a lot more issues than most of us have experienced, especially notable since the hand brake is simply not a reported problem which suggests a lot of handbrake turns. The A/C works properly even in humid southern temps. I live in Tennessee and the car's AC is fine in the worst weather, and it gets nasty hot here. I think your tester must have been pretty tired or beat and in need of some love after a life of being abused by journos. These cars are very reliable, extremely tough where it counts although the handmade nature does tend to make each one unique and they can require some shaking out. That's much less true of 400s and GTs than it was previously as those benefit most from all the improvements over the years. If you prefer PS4S, you can swap into them after your Cup 2s burn through in 2000 miles. 400s come with them as standard. PS4S is a lot more practical for road users and the feel is still sublime with limits that are beyond sanity on public roads.
No arguments about the dealer network. It's thin on the ground. It's much more akin to owning an exotic than a BMW or a Porsche is. That comes with baggage that doesn't always fit in the car. But as a true exotic to own, drive and enjoy, you'll struggle to do better for less.
@@frederickvondinkerberg7721 We're sorry.
Honestly, the 3 point turn fiasco is the perfect representation of an enthusiast car lol.
I'm not sure why the immobilizer went off when they stalled. When I stall mine, I just hit engine start and it starts again
It's a press car. I'm sure it's been through hell and back again.
I was thinking the same. Immobiliser never kicks in that quickly!
That shit had me stressed out just sitting in my living room.
The 3 point turn had me coming immediately to the comments section, I wasn't disappointed, top comment 😁
What James meant to say is…. “It doesn’t feel like a car that makes sense, but it is a car that makes you feel all of your senses”
Make feel!
"What's that smell? OH NO MY ELECTRICS"
“It’s not a car that makes sense. It’s a car that’s, sorry it’s not a car that makes good sense. It’s supposed to make sense, make good. You know?”
That has to be a new T-shirt now lmao
Yes! Along with the "They made the air compressing lighter air conditioning weighter less"
Absolutely, my exact thoughts lol. I hope they make it
like drink box water bottles sort of things (Canadians will get it)
Sounds like a joe biden quote
Nice to know I’m not alone in verbal stumbling.
That panic at 13:30 is my worst nightmare. Brought back memories of learning to drive a manual. Awesome extra review as always.
Thank god a motorcyclist wasn’t tearing down that road behind them!!
Watching your review, I thought, “Who would possibly buy this car?” Then you said (something like): “It’s a $100,000 Miata that isn’t as reliable, but has 400 bhp, hydraulic steering, and a fake back seat…” And now I’m pretty sure I’m going to buy one.
Do it! I traded in my 2020 Miata RF Grand Touring for a 2021 Lotus Evora GT today! This car is awesome!
FINALLY!
My Evora GT is my ONLY car and I drove 36,000 miles in a SINGLE year of owning it!
Absoutely the best drivers car. AMA if you need more indepth info on it.
Love the car. Is it expensive to maintain? Anything you do yourself? Difficult to find a good mechanic?
@@dubiousmike I've done just shy of half the miles he has in a year and so far after a few track days, the oil change every 10k is easy to DIY, the brake/clutch fluid bleed is wasn't to bad to DIY as well and I need new Cup2's after a few track days. PS4S's have held up much better while sacrificing only a little dry grip and gaining grip in the wet
@@bboixtc any tips on picking up a used one?
@@dubiousmike Evoras in general haven't really been affected by the current market. If you're looking at older Evoras there are lots of little things to look out for. 2017-2018 Evora 400's have a few differences between the 20-21 GTs. I'd recommend a 400 or GT depending on budget, but my advice is to just get whatever you can. Evoras are the last hand built Lotus.
@@bboixtc The Evora GT has been weighing very heavily in my mind, but the new Emira is a good step forward for the Evora chassis and Lotus as a brand. Have you considered trading in your GT for an Emira? Also, not sure if you've seen the Emira in person, b/c I was wondering how it looks compared to the GT.
The high production videos on the main channel are phenomenal, but there's something uniquely enjoyable about more lax content like this. I think it's how genuine they feel, not that the main ones don't either, but it's more like just car guys having a chat rather than a special showcase, and it's nice that you guys actually know what points to touch on and how. The vibe reminds me of the older videos to be honest, I really enjoy watching these. And at risk of sounding like a broken record, we would all LOVE a podcast from the two of you =]
I agree. Had a simplistic SmokingTire feel- which let them and their commentary shine. The night a c video had me cracking up.
But also, you need both. You need the main channel to be the way it is, so that these have meaning. If we didn't have that this would just feel like every other low rent car chat channel on yt.
For a "quick" review, it came out as the longest I have ever watched on the Extra TH channel
But still a lot of fun!
Great job guys!
Their last video on this channel was like 45 minutes lol
Idk why they would wanna have a second channel to make these videos shorter.....pple are dying to have the videos be longer already.
If anything (if they don't have enough time to feature all the vehiclesthey want to on their main channel.) they should make the reviews exactly the same as they do on their main but just maybe have it feature only trucks maybe, or only cars that are $100k+ or maybe cars that are less than $50k.
Making a second channel with lower production cost, less driving and overall less opinion and information on the car isn't the way to go I think....
@@chelseapeters7187 if you don’t like it, don’t watch their second channel. I think it’s great. Clearly other people love it too. It lets them produce more content and get more views without spending a bunch more money. It also let’s them film in a more informal/less scripted format and try new stuff that they can incorporate into their main channel if people respond well to it. It makes perfect sense.
@@CrazyDavy22 where in my complaint did I say I didn't like the videos, especially if one of my complaints was not making some of the videos long enough
@@chelseapeters7187 the last paragraph/sentence: “Making a second channel with lower production cost, less driving and overall less opinion and information on the car isn’t the way to go…” -Chelsea Peters
As an Evora GT owner, I can agree with some of the negative comments. Interior components are dated. I've had a couple of M3s and a Mustang GT350 in the past. Build quality is significantly better than the Mustang. The Evora handles way better than any of my previous cars. It can certainly be dallied. Motor and drive train is Toyota so you can buy most parts for 1/10 of Porsche parts. Brakes are AP so, pads a rotors are not off the charts expensive. Wouldn't drive it in the snow though.
In "RACE" mode, red line is 7200RPM. This also disables TC and ANTI-LOCK. So if you press the button, you're on your own.
18 min "quick" review 🤷Excellent as always! Keep it up fellas 👍
The panic in Thomas's eyes @13.30 was hilarious! 🤣
I had an anxiety attack perfectly in sync with Thomas during the stall 😅
He stalled in the worst location lol
when you mentioned how your AC broke I instantly remembered one quote by Jeremy Clarkson: "Meaning of Lotus = Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious"
It didn't break down; they had it on recirculate.
I can't help but love Lotus and I think most enthusiasts would say the same thing despite their issues. If I had unlimited finances for my dream garage then an Evora of some spec would most definitely be in there. Thanks for the highly entertaining drive along Thomas and James and keep up the excellent work!
11:00 James just looks so happy sitting there and smiling I love it. Great video guys!
Remind's me of Woody when humans are around!
2:20 "It's not a car that makes sense. It's a car that's...I-I it's not, sorry, it'snotacarthatmakes *good sense* it'supposedtomake sense. make. good." -James, 2022
I love these guys. They're truly funny and passionate. That last scene killed me. You can tell they truly amuse each other and themselves... no phoniness or pretending. The face-palm by James was so good. lol
"Simplify and add lightness." What a great throwback reference!
For all those wondering, rear seats don't actually make a difference in the insurance premiums. The insurance premiums are based off of statistical data they have used to come up with the most cost effective way to establish profit in the insurance business. That's why a 2000 FRC corvette is about 30$ less to insure that a 2002 F150 with the 4.6
Evora owners say the seats are useful for young kids, much like a 911. It also makes for a great storage area.
Owner of a 2020 Evora GT, and I've been daily'ing it for about a year now in LA. The clutch is super heavy and I thought I got in way over my head when I bought it, but over time I've grown to almost prefer it because of how predictable it is and how the travel is so logical. Yes, the AC goes out randomly, best thing to do is just to turn it off completely for a little bit and then run the fan only, then turn the AC back on and that seems to do the trick. I mean, when you get a Lotus, especially the hand-built ones (not the Emira) you have to take the shortcomings as a trade-off for a more special experience. I've grown to really love the car for its unpredictability, especially because it's never broken down on me or left me stranded. Also, the Toyota V6 is good assurance it'll run for a very very long time.
Plus, historically they never lose value really, if you take care of it it's never a bad idea financially for the long run
I'm curious, how hard are auto evora's to find?
WHAAAAAT? The Evora deserves a full size review! Scheduling conflicts Damn us all. But I’m happy that y’all get to drive one :)
OK guys. One of the best reviews. I have been watching evora reviews for almost a year. Hands down best. I love your honesty.
Great video guys! I have a 2020 GT. Came out of a 2007 GT3 RS, so it’s been an interesting adjustment. My pros and cons: love the unique/rare aspect. (You almost never see these.) I think it’s far more sexy and naught looking than most Porsches, especially Caymans. The brakes are amazing. (Saved me getting nailed by a distracted driver just the other day-and was easily controllable when locked up-and they feel great in general.) Love the analogue/quirkiness of it all. The steering is sublime. And it’s just damned good fun. The cons: with the Cali third cat, the sound is really compromised. (Having it removed in a week.) The rear end is wildly tail happy if you get playful with the power in a turn-so much so that it will gladly spin you all the way around. This I’ve really had to be careful with-whereas with the RS it was very predictable. (This is in Sport.) And lastly, the inconsistency for rev matching is just SO freaking annoying. Probably my biggest complaint. Lots of folks on LotusTalk talk about it, but no one seems to have solid answers for a fix. (And I’m quite solid with rev matching/heel/toe.) I’m taking it in to remove the third cat (GRPs has a great pipe bypass), gonna scope out the GRPs lowering cups (it’s a very minor lowering), adding the GRPs air intake, and then looking to see how it’s all feeling. After 8 Porsches, this thing is a fun beast to tango with. ❤️
Wow that's actually a wicked perspective. From the proclaimed GOAT of GT3 RS's to the Evora. It must be a nice change
Had my 2019 Evora GT410 sport for nearly 25,000 kms in Australia.The Air Conditioning is so cold it shrinks my balls back to normal size after I calve up the hills around home. The car has quirks, but its personality and pure driving pleasure it gives me is worth the price. Be good if you had an extended review once you worked out what buttons to press to give you max RPM and exhaust notes. Keep up the good work i enjoy all your reviews.
I think that's the problem here. They haven't learned how it works. I agree, a normal car you wouldn't have to learn how everything works but that's part of the Lotus charm.
Fun video but they need to give it another crack!
What made you sell it?
Daily this, kids in the back, Costco runs, cross country drive... It's been great!
As part of the Everyday Driver team, I have to say I love the HELL out of you two and your channels.
My '17 Evora 400 is the most fun car i've ever driven. It feels like its dancing in the twisty roads. Amazing & gorgeous.
The messed up 3 point turn perfectly encapsulates the lotus as a whole. It’s a big dumb mid engined British Miata. ❤️🔥
that would be the Elise. Plus the miata is very reliable what you mean 🤔
@@papa_pt so is an evora. It's a toyota powertrain
Well that’s well informed..what a valuable considered contribution
@@TheHesK9 engine is reliable yes, electronics and auxiliaries no as displayed in the video
@@papa_pt Yes but that's where the British part comes in to switch it up
As the owner of a new Exige Final Edition, you've really captured the Lotus experience well. The biggest reason for buying one though is that there is just nothing else like it for car enthusiasts, you get all the performance and feel plus they don't cost the earth to maintain or run. There's also a huge aftermarket community of parts and upgrades too. I'm enjoying mine immensely :)
Stalling it on a mountain road: Automotive Journalist Hall of Fame nomination here🤣! (You guys are still great... and are man enough to air your bloopers.)
I have an Evora GT and would have a hard time giving it up for ANY Porsche because off all the points you guys have made ... EVERYONE loves a Labrador Retriever !!
Can't wait for you guys to do the review on the Emira. But I would absolutely love a review of the Exige, especially on the track. More Lotus, please.
One of the most enjoyable enthusiast car reviews I have ever seen gentlemen!!! So very well done.
I have a 2004 Lotus Elise (the last one with K-series engine) and it's by far the best sports car I've ever driven. Would recommend everybody who's in the market for a sports car to drive a Lotus!
I love how these always contain Thomas saying that the production is shit lol
Still better than most car channels…
My father recently got a 2021 evora gt and we love it so much, we were initially looking into 718 Spyder but neither of us fit (we are both 6’4). Just starting the video excited to see both your guys input!
Tell your father to enjoy driving around showing off his support for the CCP and it's GENOCIDE.
Would your father buy a new liver or other organ from China that has been forcibly harvested?
@@sauljay1982 So nothing you buy comes from China?
damn how rich is ur dad
@@airuzair2424 if he is of retirement age and makes over 150k a year that is a fairly achievable vehicle if you live fairly frugally otherwise.
if you couldn't fit in a 718 then how the heck did you fit in a lotus???
THIS is why I love you guys and the content on your channel.
This was such a joy of a video to watch. Thanks guys!
I’m a Chevy guy but I’d take this just because they kept the 3 knobs for climate. I feel like in 20 years this will be way easier to keep on the road than the c8. Also you guys are always great even without high production
At least in America the C8 will be easier to keep on the road. Because Chevy builds 100 times as many Corvettes for the American Market as Lotus Evoras for the American Market.
@@bolt5564 too much electronics the Lotus is much simpler. The c8 is a Chevy but It’s not like a gmt 800 where everything in the dash is modular and easy to replace. The high tech interior of a c8 won’t be working in 20 years. These Camry engines are just as reliable as non AFM LS engines.
It’s funny how Thomas’ second name is holland, and James’ second name is engelsman, in Dutch (holland/the Netherlands’ language) engelsman translates to Englishman 😂
Maybe the best Extra TH video yet!
Love the Evora and its sound!
6:08 "...has 20 pound extra feet of torque..." -James 2022.
Well said James, well said.
Big Matt Farrah and Zach Klapman energy from this video and I love it
i’ve gone back to 7:35 several times now because i can’t believe the noise that came out of thomas 😂
This has to be the best explanation of what Lotus is that I have ever seen.
the best yet fella's, the description of the lab was perfect, as for the lotus that was also perfect the car that will bring you sooooo much pleasure just once in your ownership that makes every time it pisses you off worth it they really are special cars
Lots
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Trouble
Usually
Seriously
And yet one of my favorite cars I’ve ever owned
Jeremy described it like this in that Top Gear special episode. Although the Esprit was actually the one that almost lasted the entire journey!
@@chettest2447 agreed.
I owned mine for over 5 years and it never failed to get me where I wanted to go. However, funny thing a year into ownership my fan speed module went kaput. (No air conditioner, or heat) I looked into having it fixed. But required disassembling the entire front end to reach the fan speed control module. And also as Jeremy said “the air conditioning is like having an asthmatic blowing through a straw.” I never had enough motivation to have it fixed.
Nowadays it's: Lots of Trouble Usually STUPID. Nothing serious ever really goes wrong on them, but plenty of stupid stuff goes wrong that is more of an annoyance than anything.
@@jaystepp150 The fan resistor pack went out in my Exige about a decade ago. Have never bothered to fix it, despite having had the front clam off three different times. Maybe next time.
wow...it's like you guys read my search history. I was searching your channel (the primary one) about a week ago wondering what y'all thought of the Lotus Evora GT and to my surprise, didn't see any vids. Then this comes out.... thanks!
Literally waking up to a Throttle House/Extra Throttle House video has to be one of the best ways to start of the day!
Another great video…. I have hoped you guys would review the evora, I purchased one a year ago and have been wanting to see your opinion on the car. Mine is a daily driver 9 ish months out of the year, love it, the U turn incident was quite comical…. As others stated not sure why the immobilizer kicked in, you should only have to press start. It’s defiantly a bummer your test car wasn’t in A+ condition (typical small company Lotus I guess) for the review, my AC has always been great and my clutch is light. One of the biggest reasons I didn’t go the Porsche route is they are EVERYWHERE! This is my first sports car, it’s nice to not see a dozen or two relatives when out for a drive…. Lol ….. o yea, 3,160 LBS is what my GT weighs with a full tank of gas…. Sad that it’s considered light in todays world!
no maidens? the evora will quickly turn that around for you
I've always loved these. Top 5 favorite cars of all time
Good point about car sickness, my son loved the Evora 20.000 miles with no issues...my 992 with PASM on makes him throw up 🤢 in spectacular style after 30 mins or less
I like that you guys have 2 channels like you said this one is the lower quality channel that is the basic TH-cam style of filming and then your main channel where you pull out all the gadgets to make the video better
I love these guys..watching all their videos is my new past time!!
One of the quirks of the aluminum chassis is that it’s a heat sink and all the coolant flows through pipes in the side. On your thigh. In the exige, the flow of coolant was clockwise, which makes sense for right hand drive cars. For left hand drive, the left side wall of the chassis gets warm/hot on your clutch leg. Another interesting item was the AC, which would short out after heavy useage…because…the ac motor was designed to be installed upside down, with electric components on the bottom, which is exactly where AC moisture drips. I had my ac hard wired so it was only Off/Max. Totally worth it after boiling in an aluminum hot tub for 6 hours in summer traffic. 66k miles. Miss that car dearly. Beautiful joy to drive that would forgive all quirks. Beautiful suspension, seats, handling…
And everyone knows to permanently disable the immobilizer unless locking the car.
From everything you guys have said I'm surprised you guys haven't borrowed a McLaren 570S. Light. Hydraulic steering. High revs. Brilliant DCT. Plenty of HP and super fast. Some of the designers that used to work at Lotus now at Mclaren claim - 'The car that lotus wished they had built". Fun at any speed with skinnier tires. Kind of a mix of a Labrador and Greyhound - Grabrador?
Maybe the price difference between the 570S and evora GT is something to look at.
Awesome, real review. Loved the ac trials and the k turn challenge, but esp loved how you noticed feel for road meant no urpiness.
Thomas, I really like how this has evolved. I saw the smoking tire podcast and as a viewer I really like the dynamic between Y'all. ◀️ (North Carolina, for James, y'all) ✌️
That was a great review as always. When Thomas stalls it and blames the car! CLASSIC!
Definitely the highlight lololol
Shout-out to Toyota+Yamaha for giving Lotus the best engines for their cars ever since the Elise first came out have always wanted one since then
That engine revs pretty fast. Beautiful sound 😍
Thinking of an Evora GT for my retirement drive across Canada. Ill need to rewatch this a few times. THANKS 🇨🇦
Thank you, great review.
That end Statement from Thomas was "*chefs kiss*"
I think everyone that loves sports cars and makes reasonable money should own/experience a Lotus at least once. I used to own an ‘05 Elise with the Track Pack and I loved it to bits. When the sun was out in the fall or early spring because the HVAC was a joke. And I had no destination in mind because it had almost zero luggage space. I now, of course, own a Porsche 718 Cayman S because James and Thomas are right.
Simply the best flow in the business.
Forgot about this car!! Thanks for the review!
The door mirror shot at 2:17 is trippy.
Looks like the reflection of the mirror has broken glass (the reflection of the go pro)
Made me look at it 3 times to understand the universe hasn't changed overnight 😀
Nardo grey looks great on any car!! 😍
Really great review. All of us with grime and oil under our nails from old sports cars we've owned and loved completely get it. The plastic porsche and BMW style of driving is like playing a video game sitting on the couch.
Just had my first Lotus experience in a series 2 Elise and it was amazing right up until the differential exploded at 30 miles an hour. I got out into a Caymen R as a replacement and....yes, exactly what you said about Porsche, it was too easy and you had to push it way pretty far to get it to wake up. That is not what I want in my car, must be why I have a Miata!
Diff must have been aftermarket. S2 Elise has an open diff
My S2 has 60k hard miles, lots of them on track, and my diff is fine as are all the other oily bits.
You guys are awesome 😎, love the content
"I don't know if your head can fit in this car anymore" 😂
I've never had the A/C cut out in normal driving, but it will shut off in stop and go traffic. There's a forum thread on this where people think it's related to the A/C unit they're using and have noted similar behavior in older Toyotas.
I would ask they compare the Evora GT to the new Emira in a full episode.
That said there are a few things they missed;
The Evora GT revs to 7K in sport and race mode.
Don't move the AC temp knob off of full cold, ever.
Lower the fan speed, open the window when you get too cold.
When you engage the emergency brake, you may think it's fully engaged but there are usually a few more clicks left to engage.
The backseat is for storage and lower insurance rates not people.
Yes I own and love my Evora GT.
Its exhaust sound, steering / agility and great manual trans set the bar very high.
So damn glad you guys are reviewing this car. Definitely a car I would like to "upgrade" to!
Two of my favorite car presenters 🤘❤
You two make an awesome team! I expect soon you'll be moving full time to Hagerty or Motortrend! Good luck guys and great work!
I certainly hope you are wrong. I personally love that they are independent and free to do as they choose. There is no commercialized feeling, just pure car love.
Love it. One of the last few drivers cars on the market.
Omg please try to do an Emira video soon! Emira looks like a really strong competitor for 718 GTS/GT4, while looking absolutely stunning. But since it’s new, we aren’t sure if it’s actually good or not. Pleeeeeeease! Thanks! Love your content!
“It just stalled”; the clutch is “heavy”; it’s OK, you’re just getting older, we understand. 😉 Would love to see you guys drive a C6 Z06 and Alfa 4C
This car all day.
You guys are legends!
that panic, fear and excitement in the eyes of the driver while stalled in the middle of a bend on a canyon road is the essence of lotus ownership experience lol
"Doesn't happen in a Porsche " LOL that part had me in tears :D
great car! you really gotta LOVE the philosophy ! Elise is magic
This may be the best extra throttle ever..love you guys ...that lotus can't be justified by the way
that truck with a trailer who pulled over to let them go first is a champ.
Make sense, make good. 👍🏽
I tremendously enjoyed those even with the basic production- which shows their raw talent and what they have to say.
This made me so excited for the Emira ^^
Too bad the Alfa Romeo 4C isn’t made anymore that would’ve been a direct competitor!
The 4C directly rivalled the Elise/Exige sisters. The Evora is another class above at ~3,100 lbs vs. the 4C's 2,465-2,487 lbs.
4C was let down so much by the transmission tho, should have been a stick. Engine wasnt much fun either :(
I've never driven a Lotus, yet this was the perfect review to me - the dogs analogy in particular. I had a 944t which I now am missing, this sounds like a modernized and unreliable old Porsche in a way (think steering handling and analogue dials).
A new episode of Throttle Tire 😂 seemed very smoking tire camera style haha ily guys
The best part. It has a 2-din standard unit, which can be easily upgraded. I wish manufacturers would do this still but they won't since they make crappy headunits and when they break you have to spend thousands. I don't understand why anyone would want a dedicated manufacturer infotainment unit.
My friend has 1 as a weekend/ summer toy. And quite surprisingly he seems to enjoy it over the 2 ferraris he's owned over the years
Love that ending 🤣
I really don't understand all the reviews that talk about the heavy clutch. The clutch in my old 997.1 was heavier. It's about the same as my rsx-s. Definitely the most fun car to drive of any I've ever had.
this was great and I hope that you guys do more. I would not give 100k for that car but it is nice. Keep it up love the show