This is the best explanation about R5 overheating issues. My brother, I appreciate all you professional experience, wisdom and your humble way to teach us. Thanks and bless for you!
Listen, to not even be getting paid for this video but still doing work to share with the people! Love it. Bet a lot of people will be excited to find this out
Also, do you have to be recording externally for the screen to shut off? I was going to try it with just an external monitor but I can't seem to get it going!
This is the best real world test that any body has bothered to do that has tracked down the cause of overheating in the canon R5. I like your method and your conclusion. Well done.
It’s the processor not having to act as a GPU to process for the internal displays. Therefore the CPU is not getting hot and cutting out. Great work man. Scott
I went to make this comment and saw you'd beat me by two months. I work with artists to source and integrate technology for their projects. These are the kinds of considerations I deal with all the time. One has to consider *all* the tasks that a processor in a given device is being asked to do at any given time. The LCD (2,100,000 dots or 700k pixels), and EVF (5,760,000 dots or 1,920,000 pixels) are different resolutions than the image coming off the sensor *and* the image being recorded to the codec. Resampling *again* is a very processor intensive function, especially if you're running the higher resolution EVF at 120FPS. This is the same reason why recording line skipping 4K isn't as thermally intensive as HQ (resampled) 4K. I completely agree. The power used (and heat generated) by the LCD and EVF hardware themselves is certainly not the overheating culprit. It's the additional CPU load on the Digic X processor required to resample, format and output the image to either viewer. I'm the proud new owner of an R5, and hadn't yet delved in to these considerations but was already looking in to the Atomos Ninja V+ to boost my record times. This video has helped me considerably with my decision. Thanks so much Deaf Director, for the great content.
I’m now 3x subscribed. Dare I say… This is the most underrated camera channel on TH-cam. Thank you for your content and I hope this channel grows to levels you never dreamed. I learn so much from your videos and demonstrations. As it relates to this video, any thoughts on the new Atomos Ninja V+ and what it offers (esp when Canon release the update) for external 8k recording and whether that will be a work around to this issue? Probably your theory of having the EVF on will still produce overheating issues with external recording? Thoughts?
Thanks so much! I am very interested in testing this out with a NInja V+. In theory based on my tests, as long as R5 allows the 8K signal out of the HDMI, and you can get your hands on an 8K external recorder (like the Atomos V+) you should be able to record for upwards of 3 hours on it, because with exteranl recording you can set the EVF to shut off after 3 minutes. Now that being said, because 8K is so new I'm not quite sure what type of weird crippling that Canon may have instituted, but I am really excited to find out. Thanks so much for the comment and I hope you have an awesome day!
Great info.... as I watched this I checked both my R5 and R6 and amazingly I had set my LCD to shut off at 1 min and EVF at 3 min in order to preserve battery life and solely monitored the image via the Ninja V. Little did I know it also inadvertently helped with overheating which explains why I haven't run into the overheating issue.
I think this is good enough. You're now equal figure as Edison on the R5/R6 line to me. I bought them as they have many attracitve features(great color science for taking portraits for the company I work for, internal 10 bit Clog raw, 4kHQ, 8k, 4k60,4k120 etc.), which is only matched by A1 at 3k more. And panasonic is not catching up with that AF any time sooner. But I ended up found that I can only focus on shooting B-rolls with these by shooting short bursts to get jobs done. The overheating issue bothers me every night to the point I was thinking about buying a Z6II for the long interviews that I frequently do. Now this saves me big bucks from that. Obviously it has its drawbacks but I would be happy to know that all my pain would to be go through those long continuous footage and doing cuts to achieve 8k level quality for deliverying any projects. It is just some longer time sitting in front of a computer scratching hairs waiting for CPU codings compared to an impossible option previously, and I'd be happy to make that choice in a heart beat. And hour long 4k60/4k120 is definitely way way more than enough for B-roll galleries. Suddenly my R5/R6 transformed from a mere “B-roll specilist with a timed bomb strapped onto 'em", to the ultimate video tool which I'm looking at TV broadcast level cameras in my possession. Canon probably hates you for crack open the secret. But you've done pricesless findings to many owners/potential owners of the system. On my part you can only earn a sub as that is the maximum I can repay in gratitude.
Wait what if they update this “bug” and make it so it overheats in this mode as well? Canon is trying to promote serious videographers to go to the cinema line over the R5
@@ErikPelyukhno I really don't think that is the case. Canon has been working to improve this since release. They over promised, under delivered and have been trying to improve it.
I like the methodical approach to testing. I am wondering if the true source of the overheating is the extra compute needed for the OSD. The video signal is needed whether going to the external monitor or the camera display. However the signal to the Ninja V is clean, while the camera display had the OSD enabled.
The 4k data was already known... but the 8k is very interesting since the new Ninja V+ will unlock this feature! 8k is technically even less resource consuming for the camera, so I think it can record practically unlimitedly. THANKS FOR SHARING.
I am sure Canon and Atomos knew about this but there was nothing to record 8K to. Atomos said they were working with Canon months before the R5 came out.
This video shows that it really has nothing to do with heat and more to do with Canon intentionally crippling the camera. Turning off the EVF and screen is likely a combination they didn't account for in their cripple logic. Don't be surprised if this gets "fixed" in a future firmware update. Great work.
actually processing and sending video to both evf and screen takes cpu power, you need to resize video feed in realtime to TWO different resolutions, so, yes, it makes sense that it heats up way less when you skip those steps.
Great useful information, thank you! What if we use Canon ios app as a monitor, so we can change the setting or check the autofocus and so on. I don’t know if the wifi turned on will make the camera overheat faster. Let me know your thoughts on this. Thank you
@@24framestime You're the second person to bring up the IOS app question, which I hadn't even considered but which I think is a fantastic point to explore. I'll probably jump on that pretty soon. Thanks so much for the comment!
I noticed that the time on the timer and the external monitor are not matching, in one moment the time on the timer is double than the time on the external monitor, can you explain please? Maybe I understand it wrong but I dont see a reason to have it different
Even though i own r5 and never have i tested specific overheat tests. Lcd, evf off set up for longer duration shoot is eye opening! Thanks for sharing:)
As you mentioned at 16:52 photographers having overheat issues (I'm one of them). But in my case it has nothing to do with the LCD because I prefer to use the EVF. Both of my EOS R5 bodies showed the *temperature warning icon* while shooting only stills, no video. After doing a bit of research I learned that the EVF uses more power than the LCD. That's not a typo, I didn't believe it myself until I looked up the specs. I also wonder if it could be because I have my LCD set up for maximum performance (higher refresh rate), which likely uses more power and possibly creates more heat. I've had the temperature warning come on in as little as 30 minutes while shooting photos indoors. This has happened on both bodies and the only way around it is to turn off the camera when not actively shooting (which is Canon's recommendation also). This solves the *temperature warning* issue but if you're connected wirelessly to your phone you'll need to reconnect every time. Really makes me wish Canon included NFC on the EOS R5 like they had on the 5D Mk4, but that's another story and I plan to make a TH-cam video about that soon (my journey from the 5D Mk4 to the EOS R, to the EOS R5, and hopefully in the next month or so the EOS R3). Digging your videos. Just subscribed!
Hey Jared, I got a great tip from another subscriber about some info he got from a Canon tech. It appears that the overheat warning on the R5 during photo mode is tied to whatever video setting you have for your quick record button on the R5. Basically it is warning you if you switch to video mode you will overheat, but there is no danger in photo mode. Try switching your default video mode to something like standard 4K 24fps or 1080p and see if that fixes the problem. I think I'll be diving deeper in to this to see if that actually makes a difference. Let me know if that works for you. I'd love to hear what you have to say about it. Good luck out there and have fun shooting.
The first time I used the r5 I got overheat warnings from customizing my camera settings in the menu. It's the only time it's been a problem for me. (But it was alarming to have the camera overheat while using the menu)
Been extra curious about switching from my Sony a7III setup to the r5. The a7Iv has crippled video capabilities compared to the A7sIII and the A7sIII has crippled stills capabilities. None of these cameras are bad (actually they are all brilliant), but they come with compromises for hybrid shooters that value stills equally as video. The R5 sounds like the perfect camera on paper, but alas also has some serious issues. With that said, 45mp for stills and 4k 120p for video is so damn enticing. Thank you so much for doing these tests and information, you're a legend mate!
Another great video! I too cannot believe how mean people can be, I don’t even bother reading reviews of my film(s) anymore. I guess that there are a lot of people out there that are jealous of our talents! 😊
Thanks, Tom! I can't read reviews of my work anymore, either. I've just learned to embrace doing the work, which I absolutely love. I really appreciate the supportive words, it made my night. Have a great day!
I learned this about 6 months ago as I use an R5 as a webcam through a capture card quite often. It never donned on me to consider this for use on something like a ninja LOL. Great video.
Thank you for the Test, but when your EVF and Display are off the IBIS turns off, that doesn't bring anything for real world shooting. Try turning on the LCD again and you see the Sensor move. Also how could you output 8K RAW over HDMI if this isn't possible at all right now because the Firmware update that allows it is not even out? If you set the Camera to 8K RAW it will give out the 4K Image over HDMI
Thanks so much for your input. After having done this test, I believe this method is only really practical in situations where your camera is stationary on a tripod for long periods of times (like interviews or concerts) and therefore the lack of IBIS is okay, because the camera will not be moving. Based on releases by Canon and Atomos, the R5 will have a firmware update that will send the 8K Raw through the HDMI later this year. My test was to see if this method would allow the camera to run, without overheating in this 8K RAW mode for hours. I will be really excited to see what happens when that firmware update comes out later this year. Thanks so much for the comment and I hope you have a great day!
@@DeafDirector but what you tested has nothing to do with 8K recording, you Basically set your camera to 8K RAW and haven't recovered anything it was idling while giving out 4K over HDMI, even not 4K HQ.
@@DAVISION-YT This is true. When I did the test, I was still unsure (at that point) if the Canon R5 was outputting the 8K over HDM and the Atomos was downsampling. I put a note in my video at 14:02, addresses this. After the video came out, I became aware of the future 8K output firmware updates. I will be making a video shortly addressing this component of the test. Thank you for your vigilance on this.
Very informative and thanks for sharing this tip. Can you believe there are some people that dont like this video! I think we all know the brand they shoot!! Not seen this before and had my R5 for 9 months. Haven’t had an overheat warning yet to be honest, as I just shoot shorter clips, but very useful to know that this is a good solution if i ever need it. Top work Bryan and keep up the good work.👍
Now you got 10k subscribers, BOOOM! I have the EOS-R & R5.. I don't yet have an Atomos.. but since I do shoot weddings I was kind of dreading the overheat issue. This does help me out knowing there are options available.
Hey Brian, here’s a wedding I shot with my R5, on a DJI RS2, using internal CFExpress and a combo of 4K60 and regular 4K24. I don’t think clients can tell the difference (added sharpening in post). Yes, HQ looks amazing, but having shot several weddings with the R5, the RS2, and a Ninja V on the rig, that all gets so heavy. I wanted to just go minimal and be able to use the control cord so I could start/stop recording straight from the RS2. th-cam.com/video/WkgeEQ-vDGE/w-d-xo.html
I like your videos. I think you're on the right path as far as instructional photography is concerned. You're covering ground a lot of other channels aren't.
Hi bro. Really nice video. Just simple question. In my current setup, in studio I used to connect eos R to external monitor, and record it internally while the evf and lcd off (only use external monitor to monitor positioning) So in this R5 cases, is it possible to do it the same? (Record internally, external monitor)? While minimizing the overheating issue? Because im in the middle of considering to upgrade to this eos R5.
@@DeafDirector there is a way to record internally while only using an external monitor, I did it on the past two weddings. From my experience this is the best way to shoot (except for the benefits of recording in ProRes) because you don’t have to switch to recording internally whenever shooting 4K120, keeping the settings faster to switch.
Interesting that you posted this. I went with the R6 and have since read they’ve had a lot of trouble overheating. I was planning to pair it with a Ninja V anyways. I’m hoping the overheating with the R6 is same as what you stumbled upon. Except supposedly once the Atomos is connected to the R6 you automatically loose camera EVF/ display. If it is the display that’s the issue, maybe I’ll be able to record IPB internally as long as an external display is connected? Supposedly Portkeys supports autofocus and the files aren’t so massive for times when RAW isn’t needed.
Just for grins, the screen and the EVF do not appear to get hot to the touch. I believe the actual culprit is the amount of processor load. When the EVF and the back screen are on, the internal processors are driven harder to write data to each of these displays and to either the card or external recorder. JMHO
Very informative and I thank you. I have an unrelated question I hope you can answer. I am trying to find a way to remotely power my R5 with a battery bank. It is hard to find solutions thru canon and confusing and conflicting information with online searches. I wasted money on a Tether Tools case relay which did not work. Unless I am mistaken you powered your camera in the video by battery pack… may I ask how you do it. Thanks Butch
Hey Butch, I used a V mount Battery on a Tilta Plate attached to a Canon LP-E6 Dummy battery. I got my dummy battery from Tilta, but you can find a number of different ones out there. Google search LP-E6 dummy batteries and find one that has an end connection that can attach to your powerbank and you should be good. I'm attaching a link I found for a dummy battery that comes with a power bank so you can get an idea. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1564172-REG/jupio_jpv0510_powervault_dslr_for_canon.html/BI/21783/KBID/28147/kw/JUJPV0510/DFF/d10-v2-t1-xJUJPV0510
I have a Ninja V + that will be here tomorrow! I’m going to see how long I can get it to go. I was going to make that my first video, but you covered this so well! As another person said, 4K crop can go forever and it’s oversampled. Just get a prime lens with a lower aperture and get unlimited time and that great bokeh! Subscribed!
@@DeafDirector Update! Going to have to wait for the Canon update! None of their cameras support 8k over HDMI just yet. However, in their press release Atomos stated an update for the R5 is coming later in the year. They specifically mentioned the R5. Fingers crossed that Atomos had been working with Canon!
Hi, love your videos and technical insight! 💕 Maybe I missed something but how did you record 8k to the Atomos Ninja 5 if you didn’t have the Plus model for the testing? Thanks 😊
Awesome video! Thank you!! 💕 One more test please!! Will the R5 overheat if recording internally to a CF Express card with the LCD and UVF off while using the Ninja V or any other monitor to monitor your video recording’s ?? Thanks 😊🙏🏻
Thanks James. Unfortunately you cannot record internally and have the LCD and EVF cut off. They will only cut off with external recording. I have tried every trick in the book, even gaff taping eye sensor to fool the camera and only have the EVF on. If you are internal recording, you have no way to cut off the LCD or EVF. This only works with external recording. Thanks for the comment, have a great day!
This video melted my brain How come I never heard of this before. I am dying to test this tomorrow! 1 important question: What cable are you using? I am trying to record 4K60 and I keep getting disconnected from the Nina V to my R5.
Hi Bryan! I was wondering did you set your R5 to the 8K recording mode and record 4K on the Ninja? I was wondering if preventing the camera to process the downsampling internally from 8K to 4KHQ might allow less stress and heat on the processing unit and longer duration for external recordings. So the R5 set to 8K and the Ninja recording on 4K 🤔
I’ve got an R6, and I ordered the Ninja V today. Looking forward to trying this! (I plan on using the ninja as my only monitor and not using the LCD, so that’ll work out great! )
WOW, great information, I have watched multiple R5 "overheat" videos and have never seen anyone test the R5 like this. Great job! I am a wedding "stills" shooter and will try shutting down the back LCD screen as much as possible.
Thanks Darrell! Because I don't get overheat warnings during my photo sessions with the R5, I haven't been able to dive deep into this side of the camera yet. I would love to get your feedback once you do this. Thanks so much for the comment and I hope you have a great day!
I discovered why my R5 overheat lamp was blinking after shooting "stills" at a wedding. Another youtuber had the same issue and contacted Canon. Canon advised, if any of the three custom video functions are tied to 8K, 4K120, 4K60, or 4KHQ, you will see the video overheat warning in the viewfinder while shooting a lot of stills. I had three of the four video settings tied on my R5. Apparently the red video start button is in "standby" mode when a custom video function is set. Canon said to clear the overheat video functions from the custom settings and the blinking overheat video lamp will not occur when shooting stills. I tested this by setting my R5 to 8K video and ran it until the overheat warning started . I switched from video to stills mode and the overheat warning was blinking in the viewfinder. I then cleared my three custom video functions and the overheat warning lamp went off. Hybrid and Stills R5 shooters should try this if they are seeing the overheat warning lamp.
@@holl3308 THIS IS AMAZING INFO!!! Thank you so much for posting this, I am going to definitely take a look at this coming up. Really appreciate the tip.
interesting. On the macbook or imac, the element that produces most heat is the graphic card, especially when it has to feed several screens. It would be interesting to have only the LCD screen on and just the EVF off, and measure the recoding time.
I understand your enthusiasm for this work around to the overheating problems of the R5. My worry is that you may have found a way to circumvent only the software “safeguard” rather than the actual overheating and thus are in danger of damaging your camera. As I understand it, the overheating warning is not based on an actual measurement of the internal temperature. It appears to be based on Canon’s estimate of safe recording determined in controlled test environments. This might mean that you are putting your camera at risk.
Hey Johnboy, that's a really good point. That being said I actually found that doing this kept my camera cooler (to the touch), after 3 hours than if I ran it for 30 minutes with the LCD and EVF on. I think your point has a lot of validity in it, so I think I'm going to go back and do the test again, using a surface thermometer to measure the difference in heat, so it is a little more accurate. Thanks so much for the comment and I hope you have a great day
@@DeafDirector did you test the surface temps? I’m looking at an r5 for underwater and if this tactic can help me safely bypass overheating that would be huuuuuge! Thanks man 👍
Great video. What if I have an external monitor but not the ninja v? Can I still record to the memory card and shut off the lcd and the evf, and get no overheating problem?
I like to make sure focus peaking is on, on the Ninja V to make sure the talent is still in focus. That means I don’t need to rely so much on the LCD to judge focusing. It’s too bad we can’t touch the Atomos as if it were the LCD though…
Omfg. This is so helpful. Canon seriously owes you a research stipend. I love this camera and am trying to use it for hybrid shooting 4k 60fps non-HQ but after about 10 minutes on a hot day shooting 4k non-HQ 60fps, I couldn’t record a single second of 4k 120fps, literally showed red 00:00
I shoot those higher framerates in 1080p when I use it hybrid. He did not really test 4K 60 or 120 FPS but it might work with the EVF off. If that works I might be willing to use it with a viewfinder attached to the Ninja V. Yet another reason to prefer OVFs.
Without a Ninja the screen never shuts off. Even if you have the camera set to the "Screen info settings" screen it immediately switches to screen on and never shuts off. I set it to off in 15 sec. but never shuts off.
Hey James, that is one of the limits to this method. You can see my timelapse of this at 10:45 where I talk about Test Limits. I tried to trick the R5 by putting gaff tape on the eye sensor to force the LCD off and only use the EVF, but it still overheated at about 39 minutes. I spent a lot of time trying to force the EVF and LCD off with internal recording and I couldn't do it. For this method to work you MUST have an external recorder. Thanks so much for the comment
@@kylehessling2679 You can record internally and externally at the same time. I personally do this all the time so I have a backup for my video. That being said, if you record internally you cannot get the LCD or EVF to switch off, so unless you are recording standard 4K (which does not overheat) the camera will run into overheating issues. I show a timelapse of this at 10:45 in my video.
@@DeafDirector I would seem that Canon could fix this with a simple firmware updade like they did for still shooting. The last update added a 6th choice in the "Screen info. settings" menu that allow the option for "Screen off." Thank you for you help and time testing this and sharing your findings.
@@JimChagares Hopefully, this will come with the firmware update later this year. Thanks so much for the great questions, and I'm enjoying taking this crazy Canon R5 ride with all of you out there
Bryan! I just got another idea ! Do you have the possibility with the R5 to change the LCD and EVF resolutions, to lower their resolution displays? If so I think that would be interesting to run a test with those on but displaying lower resolutions. I don’t know their actual resolution but it may actually be the displaying of 8K or 4K on them than may run the graphics unit of the processor hot, which would explain why when you turn them off it eventually gives you longer recording time. Would also be interesting if you have an option to dim these screens maybe?
Lowering the resolution does not sound very practical. Using an external monitor or external EVF would still give you a good look at what your are capturing.
You can make the screen with 'VF display format' make a little bit smaller so yes, you can make the display to use less pixels for the video, but I am sure this will not impact the power used by the screen. The framerate of the screens you can set to 'power saving', but only in photo mode. The 'screen brightness' should make some difference in the power the screens use. It is probably a negligible saving.
Good job. Very good informative video. I think the only problem with R5 for me is you can’t get very good sound out of it. I only wanted to get it because of the 8K but not sure how to deal with the sound problem. I shoot independent films so I probably should go toward cinema camera but they’re just so expensive and require three or four people to operate it doesn’t fit my style. I don’t like the idea of somebody having to pull focus all the time. I want a good auto focus
wel done jus upgraded to R5 from 90D was worried re over heating but jumped in on purchase of R5 now big question why have canon not picked this up yet? Just subscribed great video keep em coming
Thanks for sharing. Really useful information. I dont usually shoot video with R5, but I do shoot long duration time lapse (onm average 2 hours and longest was 12 hours straight) with my R5. I noticed the overheat alarms regularly when I shoot more than 2 hours time lapse when I got the camera earlier on. Though the alarm is present, it does not hinder my time lapse shooting operation but it is distracting. Recently I noticed that I do not have the same overheat alarm anymore and previously I cant think of why. Today after I see your video and I remember that recently I have switched on the power saving mode which turns off the lcd and the EVF after a few minutes as I am using a longer shooting interval so keeping all function on to me is a waste of power. So now I know why the over heat alarms has gone during my time lapse shooting. Quite a useful information also if I need to shoot 4KHQ or 8K later. Thanks again.
What an amazing application of this technique. I didn't even consider the timelapse component of this. Thanks so much for sharing this great info! I appreciate the comment and hope you have a great day!
How can I control the V atoms from the camera? Is that if I don't have a CF EXPRESS I can't record with the camera button. Oh can I record without having to record in the atoms and in the cf express?
Hey Paul, the only time I've ever had a problem with the HDMI signal has been when my HDMI cable broke, which is why I always make sure to have at least 3 HDMI cables with me whenever I go on a shoot. Have a great day!
@@DeafDirector it said '999' when I stumbled on your channel, so I had to click... ;-) Great video and findings too, gonna test it out on the R5! Congrats and enjoy your monetized status!
You are the absolute goat man. Thank you so much for putting this knowledge out for the community - got the R5 a few minutes after watching this for the first time; huge upgrade from my trusty R. Two questions: 1) Just installed 1.4 and got the Standby Lowres option which has us put out RAW 8K. My Atomos V doesn't seem to like that signal and shows nothing instead. Any idea on how to get a signal here or am I limited to the display-off technique displayed in this video? 2) When comparing the 4kHQ and 8K output recorded in 4K on the Ninja V, which do you think is preferable?
Did you try a combination with canon app to control the camera remotly? So one can adjust and control the fokus and all the other Parameters from your Smartphone.
So let me get this right, you use a external monitor and then disable the screens on the camera? So as long as you use the external monitor it doesn't overheat. So if so, what is stopping you hand holding or using a gimbal as long as the external monitor is attached? Am i getting this right?
Hey Waynos, you could technically do this hand held or with a gimbal if you have an external recorder, but the difficulty would be two fold. The first is that you can not accidentally hit any buttons on the camera at all, which I would personally find almost impossible to do handheld, because that would wake the screens back up and if you've been going a while, that would lead to quick overheats. The other consideration would be trusting the AF. If you are going through a monitor you can not see what the AF is hitting, and I personally find myself using AF a lot for gimbal work these days. If you were comfortable with Manual Focus that would be safer. Thanks so much for the comment!
@@24framestime My favorite focus peaking setting on the Atomos is when I turn on peaking but I set it so the picture is black and the only think you can see is a blue outline of what is in focus. RED cameras have a peaking feature almost exactly like this, and it allows you to get great focus in really difficult situations.
@@24framestime You can see the focus, but I like to see where box on the back of the camera that let's you see exactly what the camera is trying to track, and if it is being too jumpy or not. I find this info really helpful.
Don't shoot HQ video but this debugging/testing is great and should be recognized. Will be watching your channel for other ideas. I might even start shooting video.
I want to shoot air shows in 4k HQ (or 8k if possible) recording internally. This would require 2 or 3, 5 minute clips every 30 minutes. The camera could be switched off when not recording. Will the R5 hold up during an 8 hour shoot with a total of 2 hours recorded?
This is the best explanation about R5 overheating issues. My brother, I appreciate all you professional experience, wisdom and your humble way to teach us. Thanks and bless for you!
Listen, to not even be getting paid for this video but still doing work to share with the people! Love it. Bet a lot of people will be excited to find this out
Thank you for your contributions to the world of R5 madness 🙏🏽
Legit! How has no one else discovered this yet?! Great video!
Also, do you have to be recording externally for the screen to shut off? I was going to try it with just an external monitor but I can't seem to get it going!
He is not the first to find this out. I have not heard of anyone else turning off the EVF but it turns itself off if I do not look through it.
This was discovered last year in Aug by No Life on youtube
You need more subscribers. You're way more interesting than FroKnows and your test results are no doubt more practical. Thank you for your videos.
This is the best real world test that any body has bothered to do that has tracked down the cause of overheating in the canon R5. I like your method and your conclusion. Well done.
Which Dummy Battery did you use? Add link to the description?
It’s the processor not having to act as a GPU to process for the internal displays. Therefore the CPU is not getting hot and cutting out.
Great work man. Scott
The less work the camera has to do (CPU, GPU, or whatever), the less heat it will produce.
As a bonus, it will also use less battery power.
I went to make this comment and saw you'd beat me by two months. I work with artists to source and integrate technology for their projects. These are the kinds of considerations I deal with all the time. One has to consider *all* the tasks that a processor in a given device is being asked to do at any given time. The LCD (2,100,000 dots or 700k pixels), and EVF (5,760,000 dots or 1,920,000 pixels) are different resolutions than the image coming off the sensor *and* the image being recorded to the codec. Resampling *again* is a very processor intensive function, especially if you're running the higher resolution EVF at 120FPS. This is the same reason why recording line skipping 4K isn't as thermally intensive as HQ (resampled) 4K. I completely agree. The power used (and heat generated) by the LCD and EVF hardware themselves is certainly not the overheating culprit. It's the additional CPU load on the Digic X processor required to resample, format and output the image to either viewer.
I'm the proud new owner of an R5, and hadn't yet delved in to these considerations but was already looking in to the Atomos Ninja V+ to boost my record times. This video has helped me considerably with my decision. Thanks so much Deaf Director, for the great content.
I’m now 3x subscribed. Dare I say… This is the most underrated camera channel on TH-cam. Thank you for your content and I hope this channel grows to levels you never dreamed. I learn so much from your videos and demonstrations. As it relates to this video, any thoughts on the new Atomos Ninja V+ and what it offers (esp when Canon release the update) for external 8k recording and whether that will be a work around to this issue? Probably your theory of having the EVF on will still produce overheating issues with external recording? Thoughts?
Thanks so much! I am very interested in testing this out with a NInja V+. In theory based on my tests, as long as R5 allows the 8K signal out of the HDMI, and you can get your hands on an 8K external recorder (like the Atomos V+) you should be able to record for upwards of 3 hours on it, because with exteranl recording you can set the EVF to shut off after 3 minutes. Now that being said, because 8K is so new I'm not quite sure what type of weird crippling that Canon may have instituted, but I am really excited to find out. Thanks so much for the comment and I hope you have an awesome day!
Great info.... as I watched this I checked both my R5 and R6 and amazingly I had set my LCD to shut off at 1 min and EVF at 3 min in order to preserve battery life and solely monitored the image via the Ninja V. Little did I know it also inadvertently helped with overheating which explains why I haven't run into the overheating issue.
I think this is good enough. You're now equal figure as Edison on the R5/R6 line to me. I bought them as they have many attracitve features(great color science for taking portraits for the company I work for, internal 10 bit Clog raw, 4kHQ, 8k, 4k60,4k120 etc.), which is only matched by A1 at 3k more. And panasonic is not catching up with that AF any time sooner. But I ended up found that I can only focus on shooting B-rolls with these by shooting short bursts to get jobs done. The overheating issue bothers me every night to the point I was thinking about buying a Z6II for the long interviews that I frequently do. Now this saves me big bucks from that. Obviously it has its drawbacks but I would be happy to know that all my pain would to be go through those long continuous footage and doing cuts to achieve 8k level quality for deliverying any projects. It is just some longer time sitting in front of a computer scratching hairs waiting for CPU codings compared to an impossible option previously, and I'd be happy to make that choice in a heart beat. And hour long 4k60/4k120 is definitely way way more than enough for B-roll galleries. Suddenly my R5/R6 transformed from a mere “B-roll specilist with a timed bomb strapped onto 'em", to the ultimate video tool which I'm looking at TV broadcast level cameras in my possession. Canon probably hates you for crack open the secret. But you've done pricesless findings to many owners/potential owners of the system. On my part you can only earn a sub as that is the maximum I can repay in gratitude.
thanks so much for sharing this. If you're using cinema lenses and pulling focus, there really isn't much of down side. This is a great.
You trigger atomos through atomos instead of triggering on r5 correct ? And this only applies for up to 30 fps or 24 fps ?
Canon needs to see this video so they can make some update adjustments
Wait what if they update this “bug” and make it so it overheats in this mode as well? Canon is trying to promote serious videographers to go to the cinema line over the R5
@@ErikPelyukhno I really don't think that is the case. Canon has been working to improve this since release. They over promised, under delivered and have been trying to improve it.
This is fantastic! You should have been an actor, its not too late. You have a good character.
What a great video! Thanks for this! You've just solved an issue of thousands of people!
I like the methodical approach to testing. I am wondering if the true source of the overheating is the extra compute needed for the OSD. The video signal is needed whether going to the external monitor or the camera display. However the signal to the Ninja V is clean, while the camera display had the OSD enabled.
Bro. My ninja kept cutting off on my r6. Is it my hdmi or drive?
Thank you! An easy to understand test even for me :) helped me a lot!!
The 4k data was already known... but the 8k is very interesting since the new Ninja V+ will unlock this feature! 8k is technically even less resource consuming for the camera, so I think it can record practically unlimitedly. THANKS FOR SHARING.
I am sure Canon and Atomos knew about this but there was nothing to record 8K to. Atomos said they were working with Canon months before the R5 came out.
This video shows that it really has nothing to do with heat and more to do with Canon intentionally crippling the camera. Turning off the EVF and screen is likely a combination they didn't account for in their cripple logic. Don't be surprised if this gets "fixed" in a future firmware update. Great work.
actually processing and sending video to both evf and screen takes cpu power, you need to resize video feed in realtime to TWO different resolutions, so, yes, it makes sense that it heats up way less when you skip those steps.
That's great news! Thank you for publishing this!
Great useful information, thank you! What if we use Canon ios app as a monitor, so we can change the setting or check the autofocus and so on. I don’t know if the wifi turned on will make the camera overheat faster. Let me know your thoughts on this. Thank you
I hadn't thought of that. Great idea! I'll try and test that out. Thanks so much!
Are you able to adjust the focus and/or tracking and all other settings with the Canon iOS app though ?
@@DeafDirector that would be awesome ! Hope you can test it soon, I have to buy the camera before two days and I’m holding on to your findings!
@@24framestime You're the second person to bring up the IOS app question, which I hadn't even considered but which I think is a fantastic point to explore. I'll probably jump on that pretty soon. Thanks so much for the comment!
@@24framestime You can check out this video: th-cam.com/video/W6MWGUwOpjw/w-d-xo.html
I noticed that the time on the timer and the external monitor are not matching, in one moment the time on the timer is double than the time on the external monitor, can you explain please? Maybe I understand it wrong but I dont see a reason to have it different
Even though i own r5 and never have i tested specific overheat tests. Lcd, evf off set up for longer duration shoot is eye opening! Thanks for sharing:)
As you mentioned at 16:52 photographers having overheat issues (I'm one of them). But in my case it has nothing to do with the LCD because I prefer to use the EVF.
Both of my EOS R5 bodies showed the *temperature warning icon* while shooting only stills, no video.
After doing a bit of research I learned that the EVF uses more power than the LCD. That's not a typo, I didn't believe it myself until I looked up the specs. I also wonder if it could be because I have my LCD set up for maximum performance (higher refresh rate), which likely uses more power and possibly creates more heat.
I've had the temperature warning come on in as little as 30 minutes while shooting photos indoors. This has happened on both bodies and the only way around it is to turn off the camera when not actively shooting (which is Canon's recommendation also). This solves the *temperature warning* issue but if you're connected wirelessly to your phone you'll need to reconnect every time. Really makes me wish Canon included NFC on the EOS R5 like they had on the 5D Mk4, but that's another story and I plan to make a TH-cam video about that soon (my journey from the 5D Mk4 to the EOS R, to the EOS R5, and hopefully in the next month or so the EOS R3).
Digging your videos. Just subscribed!
Hey Jared, I got a great tip from another subscriber about some info he got from a Canon tech. It appears that the overheat warning on the R5 during photo mode is tied to whatever video setting you have for your quick record button on the R5. Basically it is warning you if you switch to video mode you will overheat, but there is no danger in photo mode.
Try switching your default video mode to something like standard 4K 24fps or 1080p and see if that fixes the problem. I think I'll be diving deeper in to this to see if that actually makes a difference. Let me know if that works for you. I'd love to hear what you have to say about it. Good luck out there and have fun shooting.
@@DeafDirector - Thanks, I saw that comment and watched the video that was linked. My C3 preset is 1080 at 60fps, same for both bodies.
The first time I used the r5 I got overheat warnings from customizing my camera settings in the menu. It's the only time it's been a problem for me. (But it was alarming to have the camera overheat while using the menu)
This video deserves more attention! Great findings! You gave me hope on keeping on using my R5! Thanks!!
Been extra curious about switching from my Sony a7III setup to the r5. The a7Iv has crippled video capabilities compared to the A7sIII and the A7sIII has crippled stills capabilities. None of these cameras are bad (actually they are all brilliant), but they come with compromises for hybrid shooters that value stills equally as video.
The R5 sounds like the perfect camera on paper, but alas also has some serious issues. With that said, 45mp for stills and 4k 120p for video is so damn enticing.
Thank you so much for doing these tests and information, you're a legend mate!
R5 is crippled. It shuts off on heat. Sony 7iv was smart enough to crop so it doesn’t stop recording.
Another great video! I too cannot believe how mean people can be, I don’t even bother reading reviews of my film(s) anymore. I guess that there are a lot of people out there that are jealous of our talents! 😊
Thanks, Tom! I can't read reviews of my work anymore, either. I've just learned to embrace doing the work, which I absolutely love. I really appreciate the supportive words, it made my night. Have a great day!
Thank you! This video really helped me a lot with my R5. You're doing a great job!
Great job men... thank you... great video!!! I am debating in getting the Canon R5 or the 1DX MK III...
I learned this about 6 months ago as I use an R5 as a webcam through a capture card quite often. It never donned on me to consider this for use on something like a ninja LOL. Great video.
Thank you for the Test, but when your EVF and Display are off the IBIS turns off, that doesn't bring anything for real world shooting. Try turning on the LCD again and you see the Sensor move.
Also how could you output 8K RAW over HDMI if this isn't possible at all right now because the Firmware update that allows it is not even out? If you set the Camera to 8K RAW it will give out the 4K Image over HDMI
Thanks so much for your input. After having done this test, I believe this method is only really practical in situations where your camera is stationary on a tripod for long periods of times (like interviews or concerts) and therefore the lack of IBIS is okay, because the camera will not be moving.
Based on releases by Canon and Atomos, the R5 will have a firmware update that will send the 8K Raw through the HDMI later this year. My test was to see if this method would allow the camera to run, without overheating in this 8K RAW mode for hours. I will be really excited to see what happens when that firmware update comes out later this year. Thanks so much for the comment and I hope you have a great day!
@@DeafDirector but what you tested has nothing to do with 8K recording, you Basically set your camera to 8K RAW and haven't recovered anything it was idling while giving out 4K over HDMI, even not 4K HQ.
@@DAVISION-YT This is true. When I did the test, I was still unsure (at that point) if the Canon R5 was outputting the 8K over HDM and the Atomos was downsampling. I put a note in my video at 14:02, addresses this. After the video came out, I became aware of the future 8K output firmware updates. I will be making a video shortly addressing this component of the test. Thank you for your vigilance on this.
Very informative and thanks for sharing this tip. Can you believe there are some people that dont like this video! I think we all know the brand they shoot!! Not seen this before and had my R5 for 9 months. Haven’t had an overheat warning yet to be honest, as I just shoot shorter clips, but very useful to know that this is a good solution if i ever need it. Top work Bryan and keep up the good work.👍
Thanks so much, Stuart! I've really loved my R5 and I hope you have fun shooting out there with it!
Now you got 10k subscribers, BOOOM!
I have the EOS-R & R5.. I don't yet have an Atomos.. but since I do shoot weddings I was kind of dreading the overheat issue.
This does help me out knowing there are options available.
Hey Brian, here’s a wedding I shot with my R5, on a DJI RS2, using internal CFExpress and a combo of 4K60 and regular 4K24. I don’t think clients can tell the difference (added sharpening in post). Yes, HQ looks amazing, but having shot several weddings with the R5, the RS2, and a Ninja V on the rig, that all gets so heavy. I wanted to just go minimal and be able to use the control cord so I could start/stop recording straight from the RS2. th-cam.com/video/WkgeEQ-vDGE/w-d-xo.html
I like your videos. I think you're on the right path as far as instructional photography is concerned. You're covering ground a lot of other channels aren't.
I'm happy that you crossed the 1k mark.
Thanks for this! Have you done any tests with 4K 60fps?
4K HQ not available for 60P，Image quality collapse
Hi bro. Really nice video.
Just simple question.
In my current setup, in studio
I used to connect eos R to external monitor, and record it internally while the evf and lcd off (only use external monitor to monitor positioning)
So in this R5 cases, is it possible to do it the same? (Record internally, external monitor)?
While minimizing the overheating issue?
Because im in the middle of considering to upgrade to this eos R5.
You cannot cut off the LCD and EVF while recording internally on the R5, at least in any way I have ever discovered. Thanks so much for the comment!
@@DeafDirector there is a way to record internally while only using an external monitor, I did it on the past two weddings. From my experience this is the best way to shoot (except for the benefits of recording in ProRes) because you don’t have to switch to recording internally whenever shooting 4K120, keeping the settings faster to switch.
whatabout the 60fps and 120fps...?
Interesting that you posted this. I went with the R6 and have since read they’ve had a lot of trouble overheating. I was planning to pair it with a Ninja V anyways. I’m hoping the overheating with the R6 is same as what you stumbled upon. Except supposedly once the Atomos is connected to the R6 you automatically loose camera EVF/ display. If it is the display that’s the issue, maybe I’ll be able to record IPB internally as long as an external display is connected? Supposedly Portkeys supports autofocus and the files aren’t so massive for times when RAW isn’t needed.
Keep it up Bro !! Just keep making fantastic videoX .... cool.
Outstanding video and test results.
Great info but how do I set my EVF and screen?
Just for grins, the screen and the EVF do not appear to get hot to the touch. I believe the actual culprit is the amount of processor load. When the EVF and the back screen are on, the internal processors are driven harder to write data to each of these displays and to either the card or external recorder. JMHO
Very informative and I thank you. I have an unrelated question I hope you can answer. I am trying to find a way to remotely power my R5 with a battery bank. It is hard to find solutions thru canon and confusing and conflicting information with online searches. I wasted money on a Tether Tools case relay which did not work. Unless I am mistaken you powered your camera in the video by battery pack… may I ask how you do it.
Thanks Butch
Hey Butch, I used a V mount Battery on a Tilta Plate attached to a Canon LP-E6 Dummy battery. I got my dummy battery from Tilta, but you can find a number of different ones out there. Google search LP-E6 dummy batteries and find one that has an end connection that can attach to your powerbank and you should be good. I'm attaching a link I found for a dummy battery that comes with a power bank so you can get an idea. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1564172-REG/jupio_jpv0510_powervault_dslr_for_canon.html/BI/21783/KBID/28147/kw/JUJPV0510/DFF/d10-v2-t1-xJUJPV0510
I have a Ninja V + that will be here tomorrow! I’m going to see how long I can get it to go.
I was going to make that my first video, but you covered this so well!
As another person said, 4K crop can go forever and it’s oversampled.
Just get a prime lens with a lower aperture and get unlimited time and that great bokeh!
Subscribed!
Hey Bill, definitely let me know how that Ninja V + test goes, I would love to know!. Thanks for the comment!
@@DeafDirector GAH I cannot get the Ninja to recognize 8k OR it's that the R5 is not outputting 8K. Still working on it!
@@billhillock Thanks for the update. I've had a lot of people asking about this one!
@@DeafDirector Update! Going to have to wait for the Canon update! None of their cameras support 8k over HDMI just yet. However, in their press release Atomos stated an update for the R5 is coming later in the year. They specifically mentioned the R5. Fingers crossed that Atomos had been working with Canon!
@@billhillock Thank you so much for this update. This is great news!
Hey Brian,
I’m going to be mean and say “well done, fantastic, great find and wait and it’s free!” You da man!
Hi, love your videos and technical insight! 💕 Maybe I missed something but how did you record 8k to the Atomos Ninja 5 if you didn’t have the Plus model for the testing? Thanks 😊
You sir are amazing for this! I don’t even have the camera yet and I’m super thankful for this video. It’s on the way!
Awesome video! Thank you!! 💕 One more test please!! Will the R5 overheat if recording internally to a CF Express card with the LCD and UVF off while using the Ninja V or any other monitor to monitor your video recording’s ?? Thanks 😊🙏🏻
Also the difference using and internal battery vs a dummy battery? Thanks 😊
Thanks James. Unfortunately you cannot record internally and have the LCD and EVF cut off. They will only cut off with external recording. I have tried every trick in the book, even gaff taping eye sensor to fool the camera and only have the EVF on. If you are internal recording, you have no way to cut off the LCD or EVF. This only works with external recording. Thanks for the comment, have a great day!
This video melted my brain How come I never heard of this before. I am dying to test this tomorrow! 1 important question: What cable are you using? I am trying to record 4K60 and I keep getting disconnected from the Nina V to my R5.
Hi there, thanks for the video. What about the 4k 120 fps please? Have you used the tilta cooling fan? Cheers!
Hi Bryan! I was wondering did you set your R5 to the 8K recording mode and record 4K on the Ninja? I was wondering if preventing the camera to process the downsampling internally from 8K to 4KHQ might allow less stress and heat on the processing unit and longer duration for external recordings. So the R5 set to 8K and the Ninja recording on 4K 🤔
I’ve got an R6, and I ordered the Ninja V today.
Looking forward to trying this!
(I plan on using the ninja as my only monitor and not using the LCD, so that’ll work out great! )
Did it work?
@@directkenxmedia I haven’t received it yet, but I’ll post an update here with the results! ☺️
Fantastic!....any test with 4K/120fps?
Excellent video! Your channel is gonna grow big time.
WOW, great information, I have watched multiple R5 "overheat" videos and have never seen anyone test the R5 like this. Great job! I am a wedding "stills" shooter and will try shutting down the back LCD screen as much as possible.
Thanks Darrell! Because I don't get overheat warnings during my photo sessions with the R5, I haven't been able to dive deep into this side of the camera yet. I would love to get your feedback once you do this. Thanks so much for the comment and I hope you have a great day!
I discovered why my R5 overheat lamp was blinking after shooting "stills" at a wedding. Another youtuber had the same issue and contacted Canon. Canon advised, if any of the three custom video functions are tied to 8K, 4K120, 4K60, or 4KHQ, you will see the video overheat warning in the viewfinder while shooting a lot of stills. I had three of the four video settings tied on my R5. Apparently the red video start button is in "standby" mode when a custom video function is set. Canon said to clear the overheat video functions from the custom settings and the blinking overheat video lamp will not occur when shooting stills.
I tested this by setting my R5 to 8K video and ran it until the overheat warning started . I switched from video to stills mode and the overheat warning was blinking in the viewfinder. I then cleared my three custom video functions and the overheat warning lamp went off. Hybrid and Stills R5 shooters should try this if they are seeing the overheat warning lamp.
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@@holl3308 THIS IS AMAZING INFO!!! Thank you so much for posting this, I am going to definitely take a look at this coming up. Really appreciate the tip.
@@holl3308 - Good to know! I mainly shoot stills but also do video and my C3 (video) is set for 60fps video.
interesting. On the macbook or imac, the element that produces most heat is the graphic card, especially when it has to feed several screens. It would be interesting to have only the LCD screen on and just the EVF off, and measure the recoding time.
Thanks for this heads up, great to know if ever I would need a workaround for longer interview type of shoots 👍😊
Very curious to what you are saving to? Looking for a storing/recording setup for over 1 hour consistent recording.
I appreciate you making this video.
So you’re avoiding the 30 min record limit bc of the Ninja?
Yes, There is no record limit through the HDMI
I understand your enthusiasm for this work around to the overheating problems of the R5. My worry is that you may have found a way to circumvent only the software “safeguard” rather than the actual overheating and thus are in danger of damaging your camera. As I understand it, the overheating warning is not based on an actual measurement of the internal temperature. It appears to be based on Canon’s estimate of safe recording determined in controlled test environments. This might mean that you are putting your camera at risk.
Hey Johnboy, that's a really good point. That being said I actually found that doing this kept my camera cooler (to the touch), after 3 hours than if I ran it for 30 minutes with the LCD and EVF on. I think your point has a lot of validity in it, so I think I'm going to go back and do the test again, using a surface thermometer to measure the difference in heat, so it is a little more accurate. Thanks so much for the comment and I hope you have a great day
@@DeafDirector did you test the surface temps? I’m looking at an r5 for underwater and if this tactic can help me safely bypass overheating that would be huuuuuge! Thanks man 👍
Great video. What if I have an external monitor but not the ninja v? Can I still record to the memory card and shut off the lcd and the evf, and get no overheating problem?
I like to make sure focus peaking is on, on the Ninja V to make sure the talent is still in focus. That means I don’t need to rely so much on the LCD to judge focusing. It’s too bad we can’t touch the Atomos as if it were the LCD though…
That would be amazing! I've definitely got some focus peaking settings that I love on my Ninja V. Thanks for the comment!
Doesn’t the Canon iOS App act as a touch screen just like the LCD though?
Hey Brian,
How about this? Does it over heat if we use a monitor, turn off the LCD and EVF, and record internally on a CFexpress?
I would like to know as well.
Subscribed! Your channel is awesome!
Omfg. This is so helpful. Canon seriously owes you a research stipend.
I love this camera and am trying to use it for hybrid shooting 4k 60fps non-HQ but after about 10 minutes on a hot day shooting 4k non-HQ 60fps, I couldn’t record a single second of 4k 120fps, literally showed red 00:00
I shoot those higher framerates in 1080p when I use it hybrid.
He did not really test 4K 60 or 120 FPS but it might work with the EVF off.
If that works I might be willing to use it with a viewfinder attached to the Ninja V.
Yet another reason to prefer OVFs.
Without a Ninja the screen never shuts off. Even if you have the camera set to the "Screen info settings" screen it immediately switches to screen on and never shuts off. I set it to off in 15 sec. but never shuts off.
Hey James, that is one of the limits to this method. You can see my timelapse of this at 10:45 where I talk about Test Limits. I tried to trick the R5 by putting gaff tape on the eye sensor to force the LCD off and only use the EVF, but it still overheated at about 39 minutes. I spent a lot of time trying to force the EVF and LCD off with internal recording and I couldn't do it. For this method to work you MUST have an external recorder. Thanks so much for the comment
@@DeafDirector can you record internally while recording with the external recorder, or even while outputting to an external monitor?
@@kylehessling2679 You can record internally and externally at the same time. I personally do this all the time so I have a backup for my video. That being said, if you record internally you cannot get the LCD or EVF to switch off, so unless you are recording standard 4K (which does not overheat) the camera will run into overheating issues. I show a timelapse of this at 10:45 in my video.
@@DeafDirector I would seem that Canon could fix this with a simple firmware updade like they did for still shooting. The last update added a 6th choice in the "Screen info. settings" menu that allow the option for "Screen off." Thank you for you help and time testing this and sharing your findings.
@@JimChagares Hopefully, this will come with the firmware update later this year. Thanks so much for the great questions, and I'm enjoying taking this crazy Canon R5 ride with all of you out there
This is great news and great content. Well presented from a pro. Thanks!
Bryan! I just got another idea ! Do you have the possibility with the R5 to change the LCD and EVF resolutions, to lower their resolution displays? If so I think that would be interesting to run a test with those on but displaying lower resolutions. I don’t know their actual resolution but it may actually be the displaying of 8K or 4K on them than may run the graphics unit of the processor hot, which would explain why when you turn them off it eventually gives you longer recording time. Would also be interesting if you have an option to dim these screens maybe?
Lowering the resolution does not sound very practical. Using an external monitor or external EVF would still give you a good look at what your are capturing.
You can make the screen with 'VF display format' make a little bit smaller so yes, you can make the display to use less pixels for the video, but I am sure this will not impact the power used by the screen. The framerate of the screens you can set to 'power saving', but only in photo mode. The 'screen brightness' should make some difference in the power the screens use. It is probably a negligible saving.
Good job. Very good informative video. I think the only problem with R5 for me is you can’t get very good sound out of it. I only wanted to get it because of the 8K but not sure how to deal with the sound problem. I shoot independent films so I probably should go toward cinema camera but they’re just so expensive and require three or four people to operate it doesn’t fit my style. I don’t like the idea of somebody having to pull focus all the time. I want a good auto focus
Canon c70 bru. I watched a DoP auto focus a short action film with it using custom buttons whilst I was 1st ACing him. I never pulled focus for him!
wel done jus upgraded to R5 from 90D was worried re over heating but jumped in on purchase of R5 now big question why have canon not picked this up yet? Just subscribed great video keep em coming
Thank you for your this video, only 2k subs, hopefully that goes up soon 😄
This is a huge revelation!
Very interesting observations, and nice work sir.
wow that's great !! , i mean 1 hour of recording is more than enough , but to exceed more than 1 is awesome
Thanks for sharing. Really useful information. I dont usually shoot video with R5, but I do shoot long duration time lapse (onm average 2 hours and longest was 12 hours straight) with my R5. I noticed the overheat alarms regularly when I shoot more than 2 hours time lapse when I got the camera earlier on. Though the alarm is present, it does not hinder my time lapse shooting operation but it is distracting. Recently I noticed that I do not have the same overheat alarm anymore and previously I cant think of why. Today after I see your video and I remember that recently I have switched on the power saving mode which turns off the lcd and the EVF after a few minutes as I am using a longer shooting interval so keeping all function on to me is a waste of power. So now I know why the over heat alarms has gone during my time lapse shooting. Quite a useful information also if I need to shoot 4KHQ or 8K later. Thanks again.
What an amazing application of this technique. I didn't even consider the timelapse component of this. Thanks so much for sharing this great info! I appreciate the comment and hope you have a great day!
How can I control the V atoms from the camera?
Is that if I don't have a CF EXPRESS I can't record with the camera button.
Oh can I record without having to record in the atoms and in the cf express?
Great demonstration! Has your Atomos Ninja V ever had a problem receiving an HDMI signal from your EOS R5?
Hey Paul, the only time I've ever had a problem with the HDMI signal has been when my HDMI cable broke, which is why I always make sure to have at least 3 HDMI cables with me whenever I go on a shoot. Have a great day!
Congrats, I've just become your 1000th suscriber :-)
Thanks so much, I am so pumped!
@@DeafDirector it said '999' when I stumbled on your channel, so I had to click... ;-) Great video and findings too, gonna test it out on the R5! Congrats and enjoy your monetized status!
Great work! Good luck :)
You are the absolute goat man. Thank you so much for putting this knowledge out for the community - got the R5 a few minutes after watching this for the first time; huge upgrade from my trusty R.
Two questions:
1) Just installed 1.4 and got the Standby Lowres option which has us put out RAW 8K. My Atomos V doesn't seem to like that signal and shows nothing instead. Any idea on how to get a signal here or am I limited to the display-off technique displayed in this video?
2) When comparing the 4kHQ and 8K output recorded in 4K on the Ninja V, which do you think is preferable?
If you are shooting a sporting event and need to switch focus points, what do you do? Will doing this kill the USB C feed to my tablet?
I already knew about the lcd turn off trick with the R6, but I haven't tried the evf method...
Thanks for this video.
So what if we use GIMBAL r6 and Ninja?
Did you try a combination with canon app to control the camera remotly? So one can adjust and control the fokus and all the other Parameters from your Smartphone.
Great question, and I am actually planning on doing that test within the next week or so. I will let you guys know!
@@DeafDirector please do!
How fo you cut off the screen as you shoot is there a setting to cut it off..? Thanx..i am a total newb..
Can you do this for R6 too? 🙏🏻
Wondering about that too...
My Question now is does this also solves the Problems in 4k60 and 4k120?
So let me get this right, you use a external monitor and then disable the screens on the camera? So as long as you use the external monitor it doesn't overheat. So if so, what is stopping you hand holding or using a gimbal as long as the external monitor is attached? Am i getting this right?
Hey Waynos, you could technically do this hand held or with a gimbal if you have an external recorder, but the difficulty would be two fold. The first is that you can not accidentally hit any buttons on the camera at all, which I would personally find almost impossible to do handheld, because that would wake the screens back up and if you've been going a while, that would lead to quick overheats.
The other consideration would be trusting the AF. If you are going through a monitor you can not see what the AF is hitting, and I personally find myself using AF a lot for gimbal work these days. If you were comfortable with Manual Focus that would be safer. Thanks so much for the comment!
@@DeafDirector hey Bryan! Don’t you have a focus peaking option in your recorder that allows you to make sure what’s in focus? :-)
@@24framestime My favorite focus peaking setting on the Atomos is when I turn on peaking but I set it so the picture is black and the only think you can see is a blue outline of what is in focus. RED cameras have a peaking feature almost exactly like this, and it allows you to get great focus in really difficult situations.
@@DeafDirector yes That’s why I don’t understand it when you say that with the Atomos you don’t know what the AF is hitting?
@@24framestime You can see the focus, but I like to see where box on the back of the camera that let's you see exactly what the camera is trying to track, and if it is being too jumpy or not. I find this info really helpful.
i think the real question is what type of ssd can handle 2 hours of 8k raw, 4tb? 8tb?
Does the same apply for the Canon R6?
Don't shoot HQ video but this debugging/testing is great and should be recognized. Will be watching your channel for other ideas. I might even start shooting video.
Thanks, Phil. I love shooting photos with my R5! Thanks so much for the comment and I hope you have a great day!
I want to shoot air shows in 4k HQ (or 8k if possible) recording internally. This would require 2 or 3, 5 minute clips every 30 minutes. The camera could be switched off when not recording. Will the R5 hold up during an 8 hour shoot with a total of 2 hours recorded?
Which dummy battery do you use?!
I used a Tilta dummy battery for Canon LP-6
Nice video man
I can’t believe the LCD and EVF can make that much difference!