The smartest move Light made was the "her" bluff. Some TV people do it to pretend they have powers. But in reality, it's simply too common that someone has a special "her" (mother, sister, lover...)
The whole "and her" bluff is a good one that rarely fails due to a number of factors. One, the odds of someone NOT having an important female in their lives, whether mother, sister, wife, or daughter is extremely low, espeically if you consider that Ray Pember is most likely in his 30's. In that case, the odds are Light's favour.
“But he wasn’t a criminal, was he?” Stopping Light will cause crime to rise again, so in Light’s mind, those that try to stop him are the equivalent to criminals.
Damn. That's actually the best explanation for Light's actions that I've ever heard. Honestly nothing has ever made sense to me regarding this particular decision until now.
I've watched this series countless times and I just now realized how badly Light really screwed over Ray. Not only did he kill his own colleagues, he did it by using the death note.(which means Ray is sentenced to purgatory/whatever the punishment is for using the DN)
He crossed a line? He has already demonstrated in episode 2 with the killing of Lind L. Tailer who was introduced to him as L, that he has no problem killing investigators.
I guess they meant that this time, Light finally killed his first innocent victim/s. Luckily, Lind L. Taylor was an actual criminal so he didn’t kill an innocent victim that time even with the intention of murdering an investigator doing his job.
The show gives a idea of how "power corrupts". At first Light thought he was going to be punished by a shinigami for using the death note so he wrote out as many of the worst criminals he could think of before stating to Ryuk that he was prepared for the consequences, but upon learning that Ryuk didn't care morally about his actions and was just a spectator, he desired to purge more for the betterment of society, declaring himself to be the judging god of this new society. When fake L gave the broadcast, Light kills him for declaring Kira to be evil, lowering the bar to 'evil criminals, and those that would openly denounce me or hunt me'. Now in this episode he killed the 12 FBI agents (including the one that didn't even suspect him) as a means to sow distrust. * Spoilers for Upcoming Episodes * Light kills Naomi Misura via suicide, a woman who was looking to bring justice to the one who murdered her fiancee which made Light morally equivalent to the people he'd been killing. When he discovers Misa, his plan was to use her to get L's real name then kill her, only being prevented from doing so by Rem's threat. When Misa is captured and he is heavily suspected, he has the death note given away to someone who would use it for personal gain, meaning several relatively innocent people were murdered by his actions. After he had gotten rid of L and taken over leadership of the taskforce, he killed the director of the police when he was taken as a hostage for the notebook, and was prepared to kill his little sister who was taken as the 2nd hostage, but only relented because her capture wasn't public knowledge. When his father was given a notebook to get the shinigami eyes, he was prepared to kill his father if he had written Mellow's name down in order to keep the 13 Days fake rule going. Then finally he killed Kiyomi who was a loyal follower of Kira by getting her to burn herself to death to hide the fact that she had loose pages of the death note. TL:DR - Light's standards for killing quickly go from 'The Worst of the Worst', to 'Anyone who inconveniences me regardless of innocence'
Yasmine Steinbauer Lol it was a gut reaction from her. No judgement here. I was just commenting on how well the show makes you question morals. Moral philosophy can take you to some dark places (kill baby Hitler?) I think Death Note touches on these ideas great, and it’s understandable to think maybe if Lights cause is just, those who could stop him maybe should be stopped. I don’t agree that Lights cause is just, but I certainly understand not being sure.
if the ends justifies the means, then those FBI arent innocent. If you are doing something that lets innocent people get hurt, are you really innocent? Catching Kira would lead to criminals coming back, more innocence getting hurt and killed. The police are suppose to protect the innocent, and catching kira does the opposite.
Great reaction! By the way, light tricked Raye into saying "how do you know about her?". So light took this advantage to blackmail him. Light didn't even investigate him a bit.
“He crossed the line” *Me, being one of the few persons that know and listened to the death note musical:* “he did, he crossed one of those lines you shouldn’t cross, those things you shouldn’t do; for you pay too high a price, and you lose a piece of you”
Light already addressed this in episode 2, where he said that "anybody that opposes Kira is fighting against Justice and is a criminal" when he kills the fake L on television.
The one thing this show doesn’t address is the issue of wrongful convictions/accusations. I imagine this is very tied up with Japan’s culture that only the guilty are ever really convicted, or even tried.
@@Subjectivity13 believe it or not, that 99% is certainly considered unusual, over 90% is actually fairly common. The US actually has higher than 90% as well. The UK has as high as 87% in some areas. It's a result of numerous factors, including the fact that prosecutors look bad if they fail to get a "guilty" and often either convince suspects to either confess for a lighter sentance or the prosecutor drops the case entirely due to not wanting to risk their reputation on a possible not-guilty. If a case actually goes to court it means the prosecutor is confident in an easy win. That said, it is also true that some corruption is heavily involved. For example, judges look bad to their bosses if they do not rule in a way the administration wants, which usually means guilty verdicts. Japan is rather notorious for this particular detail.
I guess one way to look at the show not addressing wrongful convictions, is that you have to form your own opinion. Do you believe in the Greater Good, the big picture? Everyone has their own thoughts on the subject.
@@yasminesteinbauer8565 that is true and I agree with that, but not gonna lie tho zero wars around the world and crime rates dropping by 70% is still quite enticing
Or Japanese perceptions of Westerners. It would be expected in American culture that she could and should continue working even if they had children, if that's what she wanted. Japanese society is the one that expects women to stop working after having kids.
@@Subjectivity13 While i totally agree with you and that is the way it was potrayed in the show I also think that when both parts of a relationship work in a high risk job as law enforcement or military the only responsible thing to do is for 1 of them to agree to raise the children while the other works cause if both them die the only thing we are left are bunch of orphan children
Maybe in Japanese culture she is expected to raise the children (in context of writers writing that into the show), but at the end of the day this was an agreement they both made together. She chose to stop working.
TheJak175 I get that she chose it but he didn’t have to be such a twat about it 😂 His condescending “you’re not an agent anymore” kinda sucked. Tho I will admit, a lot of inflection and intention gets lost with English dubs. 😩 It’s subtitles only for me 😁
This isn't the first time Light committed this atrocity, there are other atrocities he committed in the next episodes so stay tuned for that Dos Cavazos.
If you might like to learn more about Ray Penbar's fiance, she is the lead protaganist of a spin off novel. A prequel book featuring her as a police contact for L while investigating a serial killer in Los Angeles. _The LA BB Murder Case_
For however old Light is it just surprises me how smart he is I feel if i was him I'd make like countless mistakes and get caught lol,but he's also fortunate since his dad works for the police and he's guessing L's moves
3:27 she already had a career, that's the point of the scene, her old habits won't go away and being a fbi agent in this case with a killer deadly like light.He's just thinking about her safety
she was an ex agent but the way he talked to her what he said to her definitely wasnt because he wanted to protect her. he didnt even want to consider what she said could have been true. that's being toxic to your partner and a sexist dickhead. im glad Light killed him. it was satisfying watching him die.
the reason why light let him write their name, because 1. light didn't know their name(ofc) 2. light didn't saw their face, the Agent know them and their faces
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The anime doesn't address this but I THINK in the manga before this episode that Light concludes that there is no heaven or hell and Ryuk says that's true. I can't 100% remember though
Theres no punishment by using the Death Note.. The last rule showed on last episode says everybody who dies go to nothingness, even if they didnt use the death note. Ryuk says the same thing on Manga
@@maximus4426 I didn't read the manga, just the anime. I always followed Ryuk's statement in the anime. I'm a little confused now, did Ryuk just say it so Light shits his pants?
This anime is very heavy on symbolism and how to determine light as a character, while there is obviously some ulterior motive but (this is more obvious later) that what he does shows an effect in the crime of the world
The last rule showed on last episode says everybody who dies go to nothingness, even if they didnt use the death note. Ryuk says the same thing on Manga
To see it from Light's perspective, he is punishing criminals and aiding criminals also makes you a criminal -- just like if you were hiding a murderer from the police.
Depends on what you mean by that. Technically laws are the reason for crime. Without laws there would be no crime. So getting rid of all laws is the best way to get rid of crime. Still not a smart thing to do. Same thing with raising infant mortality. Technically crime would drop if less people are born. But lowering infant mortality is just thing to do. That's the issue with making moral choices by just looking at numbers.
@@intothekey I was explaining why Light consider them enemies of Justice, and treat them like he treat criminals. Since he is justice himself, them attempting to stop him equal them trying to stop justice itself, hence why their lives was cut short.
Keep in mind, he made him write in the death note and killed him. He robbed this man of his life. But more than that, the FBI agent became a death note user. Light stole his afterlife from him too.
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You guys did just see his criminal act he wrote Ray name but made it so it ray would die after his entire team technically that counts as a crime he was not cought doing.
Anyone who uses the death note can not go to heaven or hell. Just condemned ray to an eternity in purgatory. Not many people remember that rule in the death note.
Don't forget the unnumbered rules in chapter 107: All humans will, without exception, eventually die. After they die, the place they go is Mu. (Nothingness)
That girl is Naomi Misora. Maybe read the Death Note Los Angeles BB Murder Case. It is part of the Manga series. A novel on its own. Naomi is the "main" character there.
What some people dont seem to understand, its ot that he does predict the outcome. Using the death note literally makes someone behave in a certain way. The crimainal last episode, had only a very small way to actually stray away from lights plan. same as ray penber. remembering lights voice would probably change his actions, and the death note doesnt allow that.
This is the point where Light's mind-set starts to get corrupted slowly, considering that everyone, even if they're no criminals at all, that opposes him or get on his way, will be or will need to be inmediately obliterated of existence.
You guys overthink why he made Ray kill. Light doesn't care about involving others or doing it himself, the way I always saw it is that it simply is safer so he doesn't interact directly with Ray's laptop or resend the list to himself and leave electronic trail. It was just the least risky option
Ray wasn't a criminal, but he stood in the way of Light's quest of being a God of the world he wish to create without criminals. In Light's eyes, that made Ray(and anyone else for that matter) his enemy.
It is always important to remember that the idea of killing "innocent" isn't bad outright, it is simple; imagine that you are going to save the world from some sort of evil, you are going to make people's lifes better... all of that, just for the price of a few innocent people who got in the way? (Logically it is a chosen sacrifice of smaller amount of people for the sake of larger amount)
They're trying to stop him "bringing justice to the world"... therefore, in his twisted logic, they _must_ be bad guys, and thus fair game. There _was_ a line, and Light gleefully jumped over it and skipped as far away from it as he could as soon as he decided to start using the notebook.
Marc B. Poblet do you mean twisted morality instead of twisted logic? None of his logic is flawed given they are preventing him from dishing out justice to murderers and rapists and of course murder is a crime but from lights point of view they don’t deserve jail time they deserve death and since people are trying to stop him he’s writing them off
From what I remember of the subtitled version of this episode, Ray Penbar didn't come off as forceful as he sounds in the English translation here. He definitely didn't want his wife involved with any police matters, but it was because she had voluntarily retired from her career with the FBI, because she wanted to have a family. However, she became one of the best agents in her field because of her passion for her work, and her husband didn't want her getting caught up in their gruesome world of Justice again. When he mentioned the kids running around, he was mostly joking, especially since it was basically something she supposedly wanted. And, obviously because he loved her, Ray wanted to protect her. This is a clear example of "old school lost in translation", which was pretty common in Anime and other foreign stuff that we translated around that era. Little things like this are why you while often hear about the infamous "Dubs Vs. Sub" fights that Anime fans will inevitably have, because it misinforms people greatly about what a certain episode/series was actually about. Although, these days Voice acting and translations in general have significantly improved, as you've already seen with stuff like My Hero Academia (which, in my opinion, did pretty well with their English interpreation of the characters motivations, but mostly because Japanese writers write their shows for Japanese audience, and we have other cultural motivations, so there's bound to be a difference on certain topics). Your in the Dark Ages of Anime now, but Death Note is a beloved classic! Probably the 4th or 5th Anime I watched, before I got permanently sucked into it all (although I suppose I was already absorbed by it all at this point). Death Note was also so fondly remembered, because it was one of the most mature Anime's to come out (in terms of broad appeal and complex storytelling); it wasn't just another show about a teenager going to school by day and killing hundreds of dudes by night as a time traveling space ninja, or something.
He had to kill all the agents, otherwise if only Rey died, they would deduce that Kira would be one of the people Rey was investigating, and since he didn't have the face or names of the other agents, he had to use Rey to do it. The bosses of FBI teams sent the files to ALL AGENTS, therefore L cannot tell which one of the suspects did the murder ( because he does not know the suspect of which agent...) This show is very complex when it comes to morality and to be honest there is no actual right or wrong, its more about what the viewer decides what is right and wrong, also it was ingenious.
Light's goal is to be an indisputable god, only with that "reputation" or power can he feel like he can alter the behaviour of people. It follows a pessimistic view that the general people will only elevate to a better behaviour if they fear this severe judgement upon them. Him trying to take out L in the beginning as well as eliminating the "foreign" FBI investigation into Japan served to add to this mystical ethos he's trying to create, because the idea that Kira is just a person isn't enough for the ambitious world change that Light is striving for.
Light is now evil! He wants to be a god, Light doesn’t care who he kills now, he only cares about power! Pen broke or whatever his name is, didn’t do anything wrong, just his job as an FBI agent, investigating Light. Light also only wants to beat L! But L isn’t bad. Penbroke wasn’t as smart as Light or his girlfriend, because if he had thought about what Light had him do, he wouldn’t have sign their name. He should have figured out that he was going to die, but he could have saved the other agents! Light just out smarted him! Light is a Genius! And now a evil genius! Killing innocent FBI agents isn’t justice! Take care😊
Remember in episode 2 when Light killed the fake L? He will kill anyone who gets in his way because he considers himself justice. Doesnt matter if they are criminal or not, as long as somenone crosses him he will kill them
This shows why Light is a power hungry maniac and not some savior. That moment where he taunted Raye right before he died was purely unnecessary except for his feeling of superiority. Fitting that it would come back to bite him.
Another mature psychological crime anime you might like to check out is Monster. Probably not a good one to do a reaction series for, but check it out on your own sometime.
Not me. I greatly dislike characters like Light, Walter White, Bojack Horseman, etc. I enjoy them as they are fantastically written and wonderfully acted but I very quickly lost sympathy for them. In fact out of the 3 characters I mentioned I lost sympathy for Light the fastest.
Adam Vialpando that’s an interesting view because I’m actually the opposite I actually sympathized with light a lot after deathnote but I can’t really give any points because there are spoilers
@@EIIlast2791 One of the reasons I dislike those characters so much is that they lie. They are all selfish, narcissistic, have enormous but fragile egos, and in the case of Walter and Light god complexes. I think I dislike Light the most because of the 3 he never was honest about his reasons, to himself or others. He stuck to the lie of creating a better world no matter what.
Even worse for Ray , Ryuk said that using the death note make you unable to go to heaven or hell , so he probably has forsaken his afterlife because of Light's scheme, not only death but oblivion.
Theres no punishment by using the Death Note.. The last rule showed on last episode says everybody who dies go to nothingness, even if they didnt use the death note. Ryuk says the same thing on Manga
The worst part about Ray's death is that Ryuk said anyone who uses the Death Note can't go to heaven or hell, they are doomed to nothingness for all eternity. Ray writing in the death note, even unknowingly sentenced him to Purgatory
Welllllllllll technically light didn’t kill those agents... and also I think Ray wrote his own name on those pages, didn’t he? I don’t remember the details. It’s been so long.
@Emperor Maybe if that was his only reason maybe, or even his main reason, I would understand sympathise more even if I didn't agree. But this is clearly about power. He even uses similar justifications as real life dictators.
It's even more fucked up when you remember what Ryuk said: "whoever uses the Death Note can go to neither heaven or hell". Light just doomed Ray Penbar by tricking him like that
Yeah this is definitely a point. He killed Lind L Taylor earlier, thinking it was L, not knowing if they were a criminal, just because he accused him. Now he's killing other law enforcement, because they pose a danger to him. It's self-preservation, even if you'd consider it a stretch. Also, yeah Ray's fiance apparently was a former FBI agent that retired/quit to get married. Whether or not she really wanted to retire and the job was stressing her out too much to have kids on top of that, or it was something she really enjoyed but gave up for her fiance is up to you. ouo)/ "We talked about this" can suggest one or the other. ouo And I think Light was just bluffing when he said he did research, because he followed it up in his mind with, "Yeah you just told me, figures he'd have family here he's trying to protect" or whatever. It's like claiming "someone's family has a history of heart disease because of random-noticable-fact so yeah I know my shit", when it's just more likely that that's the case than it being NOT the case. Does...that make sense? ouo; "Who told you that?!" "You. Just now."
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Light is the top student in Japan that’s why he thinks highly of him self
@5555Thecrow geez, dude chill. Some girls want careers and some don't . Leave it at that . Not everyone wants to be a house wife
The smartest move Light made was the "her" bluff. Some TV people do it to pretend they have powers. But in reality, it's simply too common that someone has a special "her" (mother, sister, lover...)
what are you referring to exactly?
@@WorldPancake Light didnt know about Ray's fiance. Ray took the bait
The whole "and her" bluff is a good one that rarely fails due to a number of factors. One, the odds of someone NOT having an important female in their lives, whether mother, sister, wife, or daughter is extremely low, espeically if you consider that Ray Pember is most likely in his 30's. In that case, the odds are Light's favour.
It's called cold reading.
“But he wasn’t a criminal, was he?” Stopping Light will cause crime to rise again, so in Light’s mind, those that try to stop him are the equivalent to criminals.
Damn. That's actually the best explanation for Light's actions that I've ever heard. Honestly nothing has ever made sense to me regarding this particular decision until now.
I've watched this series countless times and I just now realized how badly Light really screwed over Ray. Not only did he kill his own colleagues, he did it by using the death note.(which means Ray is sentenced to purgatory/whatever the punishment is for using the DN)
Damn never thought of that, thats brutal
Holy crapppppp. Rip Ray
OOOOH shit never thought of that 😧
To be fair, it’s never confirmed if there is Heaven or Hell in the Death Note Universe. Maybe everyone goes to oblivion.
That1Guy it is confirmed in the manga that there is neither heaven nor hell all humans just go to the nothingness
He crossed a line? He has already demonstrated in episode 2 with the killing of Lind L. Tailer who was introduced to him as L, that he has no problem killing investigators.
I guess they meant that this time, Light finally killed his first innocent victim/s. Luckily, Lind L. Taylor was an actual criminal so he didn’t kill an innocent victim that time even with the intention of murdering an investigator doing his job.
It can’t be crossing a line if they haven’t exactly draw the line first place lol
Light kills 12 innocent FBI agents. She says “I don’t know how I feel about that” gotta love when a show makes you truly morally lost lol
The show gives a idea of how "power corrupts". At first Light thought he was going to be punished by a shinigami for using the death note so he wrote out as many of the worst criminals he could think of before stating to Ryuk that he was prepared for the consequences, but upon learning that Ryuk didn't care morally about his actions and was just a spectator, he desired to purge more for the betterment of society, declaring himself to be the judging god of this new society. When fake L gave the broadcast, Light kills him for declaring Kira to be evil, lowering the bar to 'evil criminals, and those that would openly denounce me or hunt me'. Now in this episode he killed the 12 FBI agents (including the one that didn't even suspect him) as a means to sow distrust.
* Spoilers for Upcoming Episodes *
Light kills Naomi Misura via suicide, a woman who was looking to bring justice to the one who murdered her fiancee which made Light morally equivalent to the people he'd been killing. When he discovers Misa, his plan was to use her to get L's real name then kill her, only being prevented from doing so by Rem's threat. When Misa is captured and he is heavily suspected, he has the death note given away to someone who would use it for personal gain, meaning several relatively innocent people were murdered by his actions. After he had gotten rid of L and taken over leadership of the taskforce, he killed the director of the police when he was taken as a hostage for the notebook, and was prepared to kill his little sister who was taken as the 2nd hostage, but only relented because her capture wasn't public knowledge. When his father was given a notebook to get the shinigami eyes, he was prepared to kill his father if he had written Mellow's name down in order to keep the 13 Days fake rule going. Then finally he killed Kiyomi who was a loyal follower of Kira by getting her to burn herself to death to hide the fact that she had loose pages of the death note.
TL:DR - Light's standards for killing quickly go from 'The Worst of the Worst', to 'Anyone who inconveniences me regardless of innocence'
Where do you see a moral gray area there? If you're not sure if it's okay to kill investigators at will, you need help.🤨
Yasmine Steinbauer Lol it was a gut reaction from her. No judgement here. I was just commenting on how well the show makes you question morals. Moral philosophy can take you to some dark places (kill baby Hitler?) I think Death Note touches on these ideas great, and it’s understandable to think maybe if Lights cause is just, those who could stop him maybe should be stopped. I don’t agree that Lights cause is just, but I certainly understand not being sure.
if the ends justifies the means, then those FBI arent innocent. If you are doing something that lets innocent people get hurt, are you really innocent? Catching Kira would lead to criminals coming back, more innocence getting hurt and killed. The police are suppose to protect the innocent, and catching kira does the opposite.
Light didn't kill anyone, Ray Penber killed himself and his fellow agents. His conscience is clear.
Great reaction! By the way, light tricked Raye into saying "how do you know about her?". So light took this advantage to blackmail him. Light didn't even investigate him a bit.
“He crossed the line”
*Me, being one of the few persons that know and listened to the death note musical:* “he did, he crossed one of those lines you shouldn’t cross, those things you shouldn’t do; for you pay too high a price, and you lose a piece of you”
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"So last time Light did this crazy thing..."
Oh honey you have no idea
That's why I loved Death Note so much.
Light already addressed this in episode 2, where he said that "anybody that opposes Kira is fighting against Justice and is a criminal" when he kills the fake L on television.
Light is very very bright lol
So much pun with light.
The one thing this show doesn’t address is the issue of wrongful convictions/accusations.
I imagine this is very tied up with Japan’s culture that only the guilty are ever really convicted, or even tried.
99% conviction rate, baby! One of the most unfortunate side effects of conformist culture, despite the many, many positive effects.
@@Subjectivity13 believe it or not, that 99% is certainly considered unusual, over 90% is actually fairly common. The US actually has higher than 90% as well. The UK has as high as 87% in some areas.
It's a result of numerous factors, including the fact that prosecutors look bad if they fail to get a "guilty" and often either convince suspects to either confess for a lighter sentance or the prosecutor drops the case entirely due to not wanting to risk their reputation on a possible not-guilty. If a case actually goes to court it means the prosecutor is confident in an easy win.
That said, it is also true that some corruption is heavily involved. For example, judges look bad to their bosses if they do not rule in a way the administration wants, which usually means guilty verdicts. Japan is rather notorious for this particular detail.
I guess one way to look at the show not addressing wrongful convictions, is that you have to form your own opinion. Do you believe in the Greater Good, the big picture? Everyone has their own thoughts on the subject.
@@joshualopez7035 What Light does is so much worse that one can safely ignore such nuances as unjustified convictions.
@@yasminesteinbauer8565 that is true and I agree with that, but not gonna lie tho zero wars around the world and crime rates dropping by 70% is still quite enticing
"Let her have a career."
Me lol-ing at western perceptions of Japan.
Or Japanese perceptions of Westerners. It would be expected in American culture that she could and should continue working even if they had children, if that's what she wanted. Japanese society is the one that expects women to stop working after having kids.
Okay but even taking Japanese culture into account, these two characters are Americans living in Japan temporarily(?)
@@Subjectivity13 While i totally agree with you and that is the way it was potrayed in the show I also think that when both parts of a relationship work in a high risk job as law enforcement or military the only responsible thing to do is for 1 of them to agree to raise the children while the other works cause if both them die the only thing we are left are bunch of orphan children
Maybe in Japanese culture she is expected to raise the children (in context of writers writing that into the show), but at the end of the day this was an agreement they both made together. She chose to stop working.
TheJak175 I get that she chose it but he didn’t have to be such a twat about it 😂 His condescending “you’re not an agent anymore” kinda sucked. Tho I will admit, a lot of inflection and intention gets lost with English dubs. 😩
It’s subtitles only for me 😁
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Dos Cavazos yessss i’m so excited!
Just in case you thought Death Note wasn't depressing enough!
I wouldnt say they're that similar
@@DosCavazos and code geass plz
it's a brother to death note
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He kills anyone he feels gets in his way, and to him his way is justice
This isn't the first time Light committed this atrocity, there are other atrocities he committed in the next episodes so stay tuned for that Dos Cavazos.
Im still team light till the very end! The voice actor makes light seem waaaaay more evil lol.
Sadly :/
He is evil...
@@davidmtgregorio NO HE'S NOT
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For however old Light is it just surprises me how smart he is I feel if i was him I'd make like countless mistakes and get caught lol,but he's also fortunate since his dad works for the police and he's guessing L's moves
Youre right, it was a battle of justice but now its more like a battle of ego
3:27 she already had a career, that's the point of the scene, her old habits won't go away and being a fbi agent in this case with a killer deadly like light.He's just thinking about her safety
she was an ex agent but the way he talked to her what he said to her definitely wasnt because he wanted to protect her. he didnt even want to consider what she said could have been true. that's being toxic to your partner and a sexist dickhead. im glad Light killed him. it was satisfying watching him die.
the reason why light let him write their name, because
1. light didn't know their name(ofc)
2. light didn't saw their face, the Agent know them and their faces
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The insane thing is that Ray doesn't even go to heaven after his death because he unwittingly used the death note ...
The anime doesn't address this but I THINK in the manga before this episode that Light concludes that there is no heaven or hell and Ryuk says that's true. I can't 100% remember though
And I thought that scene was dark enough... wow.
Theres no punishment by using the Death Note.. The last rule showed on last episode says everybody who dies go to nothingness, even if they didnt use the death note.
Ryuk says the same thing on Manga
There is no heaven or hell in death note, all humans go to Mu or nothingness.
@@maximus4426 I didn't read the manga, just the anime. I always followed Ryuk's statement in the anime. I'm a little confused now, did Ryuk just say it so Light shits his pants?
These upcoming episodes are some of my favourites. Such an incredible show, with such a strong start.
The word you're thinking of is conceited not naive. Little english lesson for the day 😁
This anime is very heavy on symbolism and how to determine light as a character, while there is obviously some ulterior motive but (this is more obvious later) that what he does shows an effect in the crime of the world
The best part is Ray can neither go to heaven or hell ;)
The last rule showed on last episode says everybody who dies go to nothingness, even if they didnt use the death note.
Ryuk says the same thing on Manga
Not only did he kill the poor guy, based on what Ryuk said, Light basically doomed him to purgatory. Damn.
Well actually it’s been confirmed in the last episode of deathnote all humans go to Mui (nothingness)
"I hope he wouldn't kill his own dad" oh you poor thing. 😂
Any human who writes a name in the death note can neither go to heaven or hell for eternity. Poor Ray Penber.
"She's a badass" indeed indeed...
01:04 "Light is very very bright"
- Anthony Dos Cavazos 2020
The real tragis about poor Ray Penver is that now he can't go to heaven or hell because he used the death note:(
To see it from Light's perspective, he is punishing criminals and aiding criminals also makes you a criminal -- just like if you were hiding a murderer from the police.
Stopping Kira is a crime in itself, because crime will rise without Kira.
Depends on what you mean by that. Technically laws are the reason for crime. Without laws there would be no crime.
So getting rid of all laws is the best way to get rid of crime. Still not a smart thing to do.
Same thing with raising infant mortality. Technically crime would drop if less people are born. But lowering infant mortality is just thing to do.
That's the issue with making moral choices by just looking at numbers.
@@intothekey I was explaining why Light consider them enemies of Justice, and treat them like he treat criminals. Since he is justice himself, them attempting to stop him equal them trying to stop justice itself, hence why their lives was cut short.
Man , i love your reactions!!
And here I thought you missed my daily dose of happiness.
I've been looking forward to this all day. Love your channel.
Keep in mind, he made him write in the death note and killed him. He robbed this man of his life. But more than that, the FBI agent became a death note user. Light stole his afterlife from him too.
Feel so bad for Ray Penber, he unknowingly used the death note now he can't go to heaven or hell.
Hi. Just found your Death Note reaction videos and binge-watched what you have uploaded so far. This is my all-time favorite anime and I love your guys' reactions to it. Looking forward to seeing more. Keep up the good work!
i see your comment everytime i watch death note reactions lol
You guys did just see his criminal act he wrote Ray name but made it so it ray would die after his entire team technically that counts as a crime he was not cought doing.
Anyone who uses the death note can not go to heaven or hell. Just condemned ray to an eternity in purgatory. Not many people remember that rule in the death note.
Don't forget the unnumbered rules in chapter 107:
All humans will, without exception, eventually die.
After they die, the place they go is Mu. (Nothingness)
Death note still to this day challenges our minds 😂😂
I need to rewatch this shit, mane.
Since Ray Penber used the Death Note, he will neither go to heaven nor Hell.
Making him one of the saddest and undeserving victims of Kira.
There is no heaven or hell in Deathnote, all humans go to Mu or nothingness.
That girl is Naomi Misora. Maybe read the Death Note Los Angeles BB Murder Case. It is part of the Manga series. A novel on its own. Naomi is the "main" character there.
Light didn't knew Ray Pember going to stop investing him
What some people dont seem to understand, its ot that he does predict the outcome. Using the death note literally makes someone behave in a certain way. The crimainal last episode, had only a very small way to actually stray away from lights plan. same as ray penber. remembering lights voice would probably change his actions, and the death note doesnt allow that.
This is the point where Light's mind-set starts to get corrupted slowly, considering that everyone, even if they're no criminals at all, that opposes him or get on his way, will be or will need to be inmediately obliterated of existence.
Love your guys' reaction.
You guys overthink why he made Ray kill. Light doesn't care about involving others or doing it himself, the way I always saw it is that it simply is safer so he doesn't interact directly with Ray's laptop or resend the list to himself and leave electronic trail. It was just the least risky option
Ray wasn't a criminal, but he stood in the way of Light's quest of being a God of the world he wish to create without criminals. In Light's eyes, that made Ray(and anyone else for that matter) his enemy.
What's crazy it's the agent can't go to heaven or hell because he wrote in the Death book.
the feeling in kira voice when was speaking to his dad in the japanese version was real he meant that
It is always important to remember that the idea of killing "innocent" isn't bad outright, it is simple; imagine that you are going to save the world from some sort of evil, you are going to make people's lifes better... all of that, just for the price of a few innocent people who got in the way? (Logically it is a chosen sacrifice of smaller amount of people for the sake of larger amount)
Theres was never really a line. Light never said he would ONLY kill the bad guys, so technically we just dont know where that line stands.
They're trying to stop him "bringing justice to the world"... therefore, in his twisted logic, they _must_ be bad guys, and thus fair game. There _was_ a line, and Light gleefully jumped over it and skipped as far away from it as he could as soon as he decided to start using the notebook.
Marc B. Poblet do you mean twisted morality instead of twisted logic? None of his logic is flawed given they are preventing him from dishing out justice to murderers and rapists and of course murder is a crime but from lights point of view they don’t deserve jail time they deserve death and since people are trying to stop him he’s writing them off
Ray Pembar will NEVER go to HEAVEN OR HELL.
From what I remember of the subtitled version of this episode, Ray Penbar didn't come off as forceful as he sounds in the English translation here. He definitely didn't want his wife involved with any police matters, but it was because she had voluntarily retired from her career with the FBI, because she wanted to have a family. However, she became one of the best agents in her field because of her passion for her work, and her husband didn't want her getting caught up in their gruesome world of Justice again. When he mentioned the kids running around, he was mostly joking, especially since it was basically something she supposedly wanted. And, obviously because he loved her, Ray wanted to protect her.
This is a clear example of "old school lost in translation", which was pretty common in Anime and other foreign stuff that we translated around that era. Little things like this are why you while often hear about the infamous "Dubs Vs. Sub" fights that Anime fans will inevitably have, because it misinforms people greatly about what a certain episode/series was actually about. Although, these days Voice acting and translations in general have significantly improved, as you've already seen with stuff like My Hero Academia (which, in my opinion, did pretty well with their English interpreation of the characters motivations, but mostly because Japanese writers write their shows for Japanese audience, and we have other cultural motivations, so there's bound to be a difference on certain topics).
Your in the Dark Ages of Anime now, but Death Note is a beloved classic! Probably the 4th or 5th Anime I watched, before I got permanently sucked into it all (although I suppose I was already absorbed by it all at this point). Death Note was also so fondly remembered, because it was one of the most mature Anime's to come out (in terms of broad appeal and complex storytelling); it wasn't just another show about a teenager going to school by day and killing hundreds of dudes by night as a time traveling space ninja, or something.
Having said that, the english dub of Death Note is excellent, especially compared to other animes.
if you like death note you guys will like code geass anime
All hail lelouch. Code gease is on another level of savagery
@@cockroach-spray4685 not even close
i think they wouldn't like it since they would see it as a poorly done copy of the plot with robotos
He tried to cover his track by killing other 11 agents investigating Kira case. By doing so, the FBI will not involve in this case anymore.
Simultaneously killing all agents is genius, because it would be impossible to narrow the suspects down to him if *all* investigators are dead.
How come Ryuk did not show up to Ray Pember when the latter touched a page from the Death Note?
He had to kill all the agents, otherwise if only Rey died, they would deduce that Kira would be one of the people Rey was investigating, and since he didn't have the face or names of the other agents, he had to use Rey to do it. The bosses of FBI teams sent the files to ALL AGENTS, therefore L cannot tell which one of the suspects did the murder ( because he does not know the suspect of which agent...)
This show is very complex when it comes to morality and to be honest there is no actual right or wrong, its more about what the viewer decides what is right and wrong, also it was ingenious.
Light's goal is to be an indisputable god, only with that "reputation" or power can he feel like he can alter the behaviour of people. It follows a pessimistic view that the general people will only elevate to a better behaviour if they fear this severe judgement upon them. Him trying to take out L in the beginning as well as eliminating the "foreign" FBI investigation into Japan served to add to this mystical ethos he's trying to create, because the idea that Kira is just a person isn't enough for the ambitious world change that Light is striving for.
Who can't wait until they reaction to episode 25
ryuk says that if you use the death note, you cant go to heaven or hell...
ray use the note..so doesnt that mean that he....
sorry for my bad english
"A line was crossed at this point." For killing an FBI agent? He clearly meant to kill L right at the very beginning, why did L deserve death exactly?
Light is now evil! He wants to be a god, Light doesn’t care who he kills now, he only cares about power! Pen broke or whatever his name is, didn’t do anything wrong, just his job as an FBI agent, investigating Light. Light also only wants to beat L! But L isn’t bad. Penbroke wasn’t as smart as Light or his girlfriend, because if he had thought about what Light had him do, he wouldn’t have sign their name. He should have figured out that he was going to die, but he could have saved the other agents! Light just out smarted him! Light is a Genius! And now a evil genius! Killing innocent FBI agents isn’t justice!
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1:03 "Light is very very bright"....
Remember in episode 2 when Light killed the fake L? He will kill anyone who gets in his way because he considers himself justice. Doesnt matter if they are criminal or not, as long as somenone crosses him he will kill them
Why you ask, because ...
"I am Kira"
(menacing look and inner laugh)
Ray will never go to heaven nor hell.
Great reaction as always please keep it up.
When a human uses death note, they cannot go to hell or heaven... this makes the detectives death that much more horrifyingly wrong.
If you never question your morals are they really yours?
This shows why Light is a power hungry maniac and not some savior. That moment where he taunted Raye right before he died was purely unnecessary except for his feeling of superiority.
Fitting that it would come back to bite him.
Hmmm... i was thinking... if FBI agent used Death Note and Ryu told that anyone who uses it don't go to haven and hell... shiiiiiii~
Another mature psychological crime anime you might like to check out is Monster. Probably not a good one to do a reaction series for, but check it out on your own sometime.
It’s amazing how trained we are to identify with the protagonist. Even when they do undeniably terrible things we can’t help but sympathize with them.
Not me. I greatly dislike characters like Light, Walter White, Bojack Horseman, etc. I enjoy them as they are fantastically written and wonderfully acted but I very quickly lost sympathy for them. In fact out of the 3 characters I mentioned I lost sympathy for Light the fastest.
Adam Vialpando that’s an interesting view because I’m actually the opposite I actually sympathized with light a lot after deathnote but I can’t really give any points because there are spoilers
@@EIIlast2791 One of the reasons I dislike those characters so much is that they lie. They are all selfish, narcissistic, have enormous but fragile egos, and in the case of Walter and Light god complexes.
I think I dislike Light the most because of the 3 he never was honest about his reasons, to himself or others. He stuck to the lie of creating a better world no matter what.
ray pamber used death note..he cant go to heaven or hell...poor guy...
It still always hits my ear odd whenever they say FBI because I originally watched it in Japanese, and they used Interpol in it originally.
The saddest part is, Ray Penber used the death note, so Ray won't go to heaven nor hell.
Even worse for Ray , Ryuk said that using the death note make you unable to go to heaven or hell , so he probably has forsaken his afterlife because of Light's scheme, not only death but oblivion.
Theres no punishment by using the Death Note.. The last rule showed on last episode says everybody who dies go to nothingness, even if they didnt use the death note.
Ryuk says the same thing on Manga
Out of everyone I feel the worst for Ray. Because he wrote in the death note he has zero chance of seeing his wife in the afterlife.
'those who have used the deathnote can neither go to heaven nor hell for eternity.'
There is no heaven or hell in Deathnote, all humans go to Mu or nothingness.
@@maximus4426 Why would the death note say what I quoted if there is no such thing
The worst part about Ray's death is that Ryuk said anyone who uses the Death Note can't go to heaven or hell, they are doomed to nothingness for all eternity. Ray writing in the death note, even unknowingly sentenced him to Purgatory
Cowboy Bebop should be your next anime binge
Welllllllllll technically light didn’t kill those agents... and also I think Ray wrote his own name on those pages, didn’t he? I don’t remember the details. It’s been so long.
That's like saying Jigsaw isn't a murderer.
Adam Vialpando didn’t watch the movie ‘cause it seemed scary..lol
SARXUS bro you make it sound like I am defending light... I’m not, just sayin.
@Emperor Maybe if that was his only reason maybe, or even his main reason, I would understand sympathise more even if I didn't agree.
But this is clearly about power. He even uses similar justifications as real life dictators.
I don't think that Light did actually research anything of Penbers family. I guess it was a bluff to make him scared
It's even more fucked up when you remember what Ryuk said: "whoever uses the Death Note can go to neither heaven or hell". Light just doomed Ray Penbar by tricking him like that
People who are trying to arrest Kira are devil , this is how Light thinks .
Yeah this is definitely a point. He killed Lind L Taylor earlier, thinking it was L, not knowing if they were a criminal, just because he accused him. Now he's killing other law enforcement, because they pose a danger to him. It's self-preservation, even if you'd consider it a stretch. Also, yeah Ray's fiance apparently was a former FBI agent that retired/quit to get married. Whether or not she really wanted to retire and the job was stressing her out too much to have kids on top of that, or it was something she really enjoyed but gave up for her fiance is up to you. ouo)/ "We talked about this" can suggest one or the other. ouo
And I think Light was just bluffing when he said he did research, because he followed it up in his mind with, "Yeah you just told me, figures he'd have family here he's trying to protect" or whatever. It's like claiming "someone's family has a history of heart disease because of random-noticable-fact so yeah I know my shit", when it's just more likely that that's the case than it being NOT the case. Does...that make sense? ouo;
"Who told you that?!" "You. Just now."
I wouldn't say this was a line too far, personally.
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Dos Cavazos Light blufft about having information about his fiance didnt you see the smirk of Light ??
Yes!!