@@AdventureswithRedbeard The last three have regular tires (205/55/16 Kelly Chargers) that is what the service truck brought out to me on I 40 just outside of Greenville TN. He was a Simi tire tech and he pulled out his sledge to remove my tire. I ask him if his outriggers worked, he said yes. I said less do this the easy way, less use one of the outriggers to break the bead with. He looked at me like I had gone crazy. I told him to run it out about 3 feet . I put the wheel under the edge of the pad and told him to go down easy so I could position the wheel. less than 45 seconds the beads were broke loose. I told him now it's your turn. He had the tire off and the new one on in less than 2 minutes. I put the wheel back on the bike then aired it up and set the bike back up on it's wheels paid the man and we were back on the road in 55 minutes from the time I called the tire center. The cost of the tire and the service call was $205.00. That's $50 cheaper than the cost of a good MC tire.
good job brother . I just ordered this system also . I plan to use it on a table or bench at chest height or so . If you warm the tire up , in your boiler room or with a heated blanket ... It helps to get them off easier. I agree bead lube is a must. I run commander 2s on my star. Just tired of using spoons haha. Gotta save your back brother.
Redbeard, from one red bearded mechanic (myself) to another. Do what you feel is right for you, I can't do that for myself or customers-with a clean conscience. Doug🏍️🤓🐻
@@AdventureswithRedbeard I became a mechanic in '95 and have worked to be a good mechanic, giving customers the best possible service I can. I'm not belittling your way of doing what you do-thats not proper professional mechanics eticate. Doug👍
I just ordered mine !! After seeing few TH-cams… I knew this has to be right system for me, I’m too olde for spoon work !! Ordered 4 new tires for 2 motorcycles, commander II, uh oh !! After receiving those tires… sidewall is stiffer as heck!! Knew I’m gonna have tough time time… days after searching for tire machine.., seeing this unit… this GOTTA work !! Certainly will work off my metal work bench…. … also just ordered Murphy’s liquid lube… boy !!! I’m PLANNING AHEAD !! Owning 7 motorcycles will make this worth buying!!
Sure enjoyed the tire guy irish jig flip flop dance!! Brings back lotsa memories of being a junkyard raised kid breaking down tires and getting dirty!! Thx!
Red, I used a Kuhmo H426 195/60/16. It fit without rubbing and because it was taller than the 195/55/16 it corrected the speedo and increased the mileage a hair.
Back in the day on the farm we used a car bumper jack to break the bead , and some of the tires where large and had to resort to bigger heavier means . Seems your tool needs to be bolted down to a solid surface.
I have run CTs on all my wings 2 or 3 wheel and probably mounted over 100 over the years. Get some decent tire irons and toss the changer as I tried one and it was a horrible experience. Also good catch on the non runflat as the RF tire is absolutely the wrong path to go/ 26lbs will be perfect and 45 to 50k should be expected. Best advice is stay off the Darkside boards as most information is incorrect. Typically a tire change takes less that 20 minutes start to finish if you use proper irons. Good luck and lower that pressure it will be perfect
Did my GW today ... I used a honda civic and a 3 ft 2x 6 to break the bead on the motorcycle tire.... then I used the civic again on a RF driveguard to hold it down in the channel while i spooned it on...
I’m running a Pirelli P1 RF. My first time with a CT and have over 6K on it right now but I’ve been maintaining 36psi in mine. Looks like you didn’t do too bad with your changer since it wasn’t bolted down, and up off the ground.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard I really like it. I already have another one to mount on my extra set of wheels. I rode the Dragon a couple weeks ago and had zero issues with the CT.
Mounting it to the trailer is a good idea. I've thought about putting it in the trailer, but if I were to mount it somehow...I'll put more thought into this. Most people notice a little more effort with the counter-steering at first, but it goes away. I've noticed more stability on the interstate, grated bridges and grooved roads are no longer a concern. Better wet traction (compared to the E4's at least) and a general smoother ride. I have a few videos reviewing my experience if you're interested. Thanks for the idea, and let me know if you come to the Darkside 🙂
I should have mentioned in my post that mounting it would be attach it and then be able to detach it easily a couple of mounting brackets or bolts would probably make it work really easy to put on and take off when you're not using it. That is something you don't use everyday.
I like your thinking! I would love to take my Goldwing to Alaska and I like the way you think with the Trailmax Mission. @twowheelsbiglife uses the Trailmax Mission and they seem to love those tires. Unfortunately this tire doesn't come in the right size for the Goldwing. I've often wondered if a M/S car tire on the rear would be helpful. I don't have any experience with this, but I'd be very interested if anyone has. If you find anything please let me know. Keep on trucking and praising the Lord! Blessing to you.
I live outside fairbanks ak. I got a dl 650. I drive semi to deadhorse and back on a regular basis. I would never take a bike up there. Not that you can't do it, but it beats the hell out ofbig trucks. Bikes get it even worse.
Hey, @Speedytrip. I thought the runflat was smoother than the Dunlop E4's that I used. But a non runflat with the right amount of air is silky smooth. Are you Darkside?
Tree trunk or sturdy bench. My dad has a different style (No-Mar) that you mount to a concrete slab. It has a stand with it so you don't have to crawl on the ground. The Olmaxmotors is more trackside design.
Just tried removing my old Dunflop tire with tire irons. I ended up having to cut the damn thing off. Tried the zip tie method first to no avail, then went with the irons. Using four of them and tons of lube, I was able to get ONE side of my tire off. The other simply wasn’t going to work over the edge of the rim. Used a reciprocating saw to cut it off, just thinking the tire was old and hard. There is no way in hell that I’m going to be able to just press the new tire on over the rim. Tried the zip tie method with that too and I’ve got a solid couple inches of tire bead hanging over the other side of the wheel if I start the tire on one edge under the rim lip. You made pushing on that first bead look so easy 😅. I’m giving up and taking it to a tire shop and I never give up. HOURS of fussing with that wheel and scratching up my rim.
Tires can be the most frustrating thing to work on. It's like they just taunt you with the almost going on. I sometimes leave the tires in the sun for a little while before working with them and that seems to help some. No shame in taking the tire to the shop to save your back and your rim. Before I got this Olmaxmotors I used the tire tools with varying results.
I have the same issues. I use an angle grinder to very carefully cut the cord on one side. Lots of smoke and extra clean up but I figure the $50 I save goes in the gas tank
Cool Video. I have the device too. I mainly use it to change motorbike tyres. I recently changed 2 tyres from my trailer. Hard work.... By the way, funny to see that you can buy this thing in North America too. The manufacturer is in Poland and I bought it there directly....
Thank you! I purchased mine from Lukasz in Poland too. Shipping took some time. He has no distribution here in North America. How long have you had yours?
@@AdventureswithRedbeard I bought it some years back. Shipping from Poland to Germany was quite fast and Lukasz even speaks German. I am very satisfied with the tool. In recent years, many tyre shops here in Germany have stopped fitting motorbike tyres. With the device, I am flexible and save in the long run. Have fun with the tool...
I wouldn’t assume that 41psi was too much based on that tread wear. I saw a car tire run at a lower psi on a Wing that had considerable sidewall damage; really looked like it was run flat it looked so bad. So I’d say yours was probably a good result.
Thanks. I currently have 1,500 more miles on the Kumo than the Driveguard and have fairly even treadwear (~4/32nds). Sounds like overinflation may be better than under. I picked a small car my tire is used on and used that pressure. Mini Cooper = Goldwing? Do you know how low a pressure was used?
What's your followup on the Kumho non runflat? I'm about ready to get another CT. I have the DriveGuard. It still has tread on it, but it is 6+ years old. Is that okay
Thanks for asking. I like the Kumho Majesty 9. The non run-flat provided a very smooth ride. But I changed the air pressure from the run-flat. I did have a flat with this tire, not a fun experience. Just today I got my new tire and it's a Pirelli run flat. I thought I would try a run-flat with the lower pressure I've been running (32 psi). I'll have a video discussing all of that. 6+ years is getting old for a tire. Most recommend no more than 5 years for a car or motorcycle tire. I recommend you getting a new tire.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard I just got a Yokohama run flat and put it on a day ago. It feels much smoother and quieter than the DriveGuard. I' m on a 300 mile weekend trip with my trailer, and so far it's all good.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard 1) I have the Yokohama Avid Envigor 195-55-16 run flat. One thing I noticed immediately is it is mor round than the Drive Guard, almost like a MC tire. It feels great. 2) I'm in the New Bern NC area. 3) I don't have a camping trailer, I have a Can Am RT 622 trailer. Love it. We are renting a cabin
@@toanogreen I'll have to check that tire out. I'm not familiar with New Bern, but everywhere I have been in NC is very nice. I've heard good things about the can am trailers. Sounds like you're having a great weekend. Enjoy!
So how did the tire work out , i run a driveguard RF with 35psi on the rear of my 09 wing & love it , did you notice a difference in handling between the RF & non RF , & what pressure did you finally stay with . Thanks
The Kumho Majesty 9 is working out great. Running it at 33 psi, the same pressure used on a Mini Cooper. I changed too many things to say which one, but between not being a RF and a lower pressure, this tire handles like a dream. Extra smooth. I rode for a hour or so on a concrete highway and didn't notice until someone said something. Maybe the expansion joints were closer than most, I don't know. This is the tire I used for my Sturgis trip with all those rides. Check out that video if you're interested. How long have you used the Driveguard?
Sorry been awhile , guess I've been riding too much , have about 15,000 on the driveguard, still looks great 🤔, pretty sure, Bridgestone discontinued the 195-55 as no one has it anymore
I am new to riding the Dark side. I have about 1500 miles thus far on the F6b goldwing. The ride is a bit different. Much better on the highway, grooved concrete and those dang metal grates on expansion bridges. Tell me I’m not the only one that hates going on long metal bridges? The bike does do better at stop lights, the flat tire seems to just keep the bike upright. Now slow speed maneuvering is a little different, but I have gotten used to it. I have never done a cone course but would like to try one or even take lessons at one…. Does anyone know one close to Charleston, SC?
Welcome to the Darkside! I hated going on metal bridges too, now I don't notice them. Cool, huh? I've heard rumor that the training arm of GWRRA will continue, maybe check with them? Keep me updated on your continued experience and if you can find a class.
I wish I could dark side my Sportster. I haven't found a tire that would fit though, not in a regular car tire that is. The only thing I could find in the right size would be one of those cheap spare car tires that don't last and I don't think are very safe. They are only for temporary emergency use. What is the narrowest car tire in 90 / 16 anyone has found? Anybody?
Ran the drivegard on my 09 didn’t like the flat feeling at slower speeds.Now thinking of trying a tire with a more rounded edges,on the F6B.How was the trip to Sturgis?
This Kumho did well to Sturgis. Many of the expansion joints I didn't even notice. Max mentioned them to me. The softer sidewalls and lower air pressure seem to be treating me well. I need to do some cone work and see how it feels low speed.
I watched fortnines dark side video recently and he mentioned the need to countersteer through a full corner to overcome the car tyres tendency to try and keep the bike upright. Does this not result in your front tyres wearing out quicker?
It's been a while since I watched fortnine's darkside video. I may have to rewatch to see what he was saying there and I will have to put some thought into this question. I haven't seen anyone address this before.
Depend on your riding style. If you countersteer, yes, the front tire wear faster. But isthis darkside related? On theother side, Fortnine is a idiot. He use a abnormal wide and flat ct.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard I haven't watched the video you are talking about. I have been running the Dark Side since 2008 and under normal riding you don't have to counter-steer. Now if you are dragging pegs and riding real aggressive, you might use a little. I have never noticed any excessive front tire wear. Oh get that changer mounted up about waist high and solid, it will save your back and tire changes will be easier and faster. I use a modified Harbor Freight unit with the duckhead.
After my rear tire I did my front. I then tried car tires, but this isn't the right tool for that. The center hubs for cars are much bigger. That's all I've done, but the front was easy. That's why I tried the car tire on car rims.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard Thank you, I was wondering about actual car tire / wheels changes but that’ll end up being more than I want to get into. So I’m just gonna stick with motorcycle tire changes for my wing and other friends bikes. I seen another video here on the tube about it, mechsavvy, he had high remarks regarding that olmax. Anyway, I’m gonna get one soon I hope. Thanks again !!
I'll try that, thanks. 35k sounds nice. I did notice with my new TPMS that the rear tire gets warm so the pressure goes up to about 40. I'll see what 29psi does. How long have you been Darkside?
Very dangerous! The bead has a different shape , so a car bead doesn’t lock in correctly and direction and tread matching of rear to front is also important not to mention cornering issues. Man I hope something takes you back to motorcycle tires before you have a serious issue! I’m praying god keeps you in his grace! God bless you brother!
Thanks for your concern and prayers. The bead issue was a concern for me too. It was the reason I didn't go Darkside for a long time. But the vast amount of people doing this for the decades and millions of combined miles made me think I should try it for myself. Removing a car tire from a motorcycle rim, which is in this video, shows how well the bead seals. it is just as difficult, if not more, to break the bead on a car tire on a motorcycle rim as a motorcycle tire on a motorcycle rim. Just getting on a motorcycle is considered "very dangerous" to many people. We all need to evaluate our risk level comfort and ride our own ride. I trust you have a motorcycle you love to ride. Would you tell me a bit about it?
That tyre changer looks like hard work, you might have been better off just using big tyre levers once you break the bead, that's pretty much what I used to use just tyre levers and getting the tyre off and on seemed much easier than that tyre changer.
I was beginning to wonder too. But I've used it some more and learned the technique. It's a lot easier now. I'll need to do an update video with my next tire change. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@jimstenlund6017 You have me thinking about tire geometry. On a motorcycle in a curve, the weight of the bike is pushing down on the tire. The tire is at an angle, but so is the bike and the forces associated. I agree with you that most of the weight would transfer to that inside sidewall. On a car, in a sharp corner, a lot of the force moves to the rim and bead, perpendicular to the contact patch as the momentum of the car is pushing to go a different direction than the tire. Those sidewalls need to be very strong to not rip or separate from the rim with those forces. It seems to me the sidewall of a front tire on a car in a sharp turn could have more force on it than the weight of the car. I'll have to contact some mechanical engineering friends and see if they can do that calculation.
@@Kolsch221 They corner great. Yellow Wolf used them on the Dragon. I rode the Dragon with them, and think I rode pretty aggressively on the Richard B Russell Scenic Byway th-cam.com/video/WPuZ_G_-Gac/w-d-xo.html. You can also see my crash video where the tires held until I was on the crash bars and the tires were lifted up. You can see that one here: th-cam.com/video/mubzz2WZgfk/w-d-xo.html. I don't ride with passengers very much, but all the co-riders I've heard from say they ride is much more comfortable. Do you ride mainly backroads or highway?
@@Kolsch221 nice! I think the car tire excells on the highway/interstate but is also great everywhere else. My opinion is if high mileage while towing and/or passenger a car tire is highly recommended.
So my understanding the whole reason of why people put darkside tires on those bikes is for mileage I wish you would have actually spent more time talking about mileage or did you maybe make a separate video that's nothing about nothing but mileage I mean
While a car tire gets more milage, I don't spend a lot of time on mileage. Do you have a specific question on mileage? I do have other videos talking Darkside. Here is my playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLTQHVto8E08KZJNV0fRbL5NRdh4Bp-KDs.html And the review before this one: th-cam.com/video/ZmbjM7rHFp4/w-d-xo.html
Don't trust someone who changes a tyre with bare feet and leaves a knife on the floor, where they are working. Clearly, they have no understanding or regard for safety! Dark siding is a bad idea. Just because it's cheaper does not mean it's right! Before going to the Darkside ask yourself: if someone you care about was hurt/killed in or by a vehicle that had a tyre on it that was not designed for that vehicle what would you want to happen? What if the tyre was the wrong size, had a lower speed index or lower load rating. What would you want to happen, to the person that chose to fit that tyre? What if they had mixed innertubes with tubless, radials with bias or cross-ply tyres? if you don't understand that and the construction you should not be advising or thinking about doing this because you don't know what you're doing. Why am I writing this? Simple I know what I'm doing and care about road safety? If you hurt someone and your bike is investigated I'm pretty sure your insurance would not payout, meaning you are liable for the compensation and the money you have saved on the tyre is now being paid to the person you have hurt along with any other earnings you make. That cheap tyre is now starting to look pretty expensive now. By the way, some car tyres are directional, and some are asymmetric which means they have outside only, don't give people ideas of doing something when you don't know what you're doing. Are you a trained and qualified motorcycle engineer or tyre designer? FYI for anyone in the UK that sees this using a car tyre on a solo motorcycle is illegal; it is an MOT failure and your insurance will be invalid if you have an accident.
Thank you for your passionate comment. I can clearly tell you are concerned for safety. The car tire I use and the previous one are safer than the motorcycle tires I've used. Wet traction is better and the weight rating is better, not to mention a much smoother ride. You may not want to hear that I have a rear tire on the front of my bike as well, and I've mounted it in the opposite direction. If anyone is interested in using tires "off label" there are databases where you can see what tires are used on which bikes and make an informed decision. There is risk anytime we get on the road, whether by car or bike. Everyone must choose their acceptable levels. Some never even ride a motorcycle due to the risk. Stay safe out there and enjoy your ride.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard From my professional experience with both car and motorcycle tyres you get what pay for. I would never buy or suggest anything but a premium brand tyre, quite frankly I feel mid range and budget tyres should be banned. So two questions from your comments: 1. Have you ever used a top of the range motorcycle tyre on this bike? 2. Are databases you mention compiled by a motorcycle engineer or tyre manufacturer if not you might want to stress that. Because if they are not the person reading it can not make an informed decision.
@@tomstanley7773 Prior to going Darkside I primarily used Metzler 888 then to Dunlop Elite 4's. I'm much happier with my car tire. I'm a big fan of experience. I have over 20k miles of experience with a car tire and I learned from people with many more than that. Car tires have been used on motorcycles for many decades. As a large bike owner, touring motorcycle tires don't last and are prone to blowouts. Using a car tire on an 800 plus pound motorcycle is certainly something to consider. How can you not make an informed decision reading the experience of others? Numerous people with hundreds of thousands of miles just might know something.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard Using a car tire that fits well on the rear wheel of a motorcycle makes sense to me. Especially if you are a long haul, cross country rider, pulling a trailer etc. Reading about the possible insufficient match up of the car tire with the bead on a motorcycle wheel concerns me enough that I won't be using one. I ride with my young children and I won't do anything that could possibly increase the risk of having an accident/crash. However, if I was riding alone, making 1000 mile rides everyday, I would definitely consider it.
@@GamingwithKandA the bead issue was my last objection. There are people who can machine the bead to match the car tire bead. The experience of others with no issues convinced me. At the end of the day you have to do what you feel is best for you. Keep those kids safe and thank you for including them on your rides, we need the next generation to be safe, thoughtful riders. Good job.
I went Dark Side in 2008. First one was a Kumo RF. I had a flat at 80+mph and it just wobbled a little bit . I had a 4" split in a tread grove.
That is quite a bit of experience. I may go back to a run flat after my current tire. Have you used a non-run flat?
@@AdventureswithRedbeard The last three have regular tires (205/55/16 Kelly Chargers) that is what the service truck brought out to me on I 40 just outside of Greenville TN. He was a Simi tire tech and he pulled out his sledge to remove my tire. I ask him if his outriggers worked, he said yes. I said less do this the easy way, less use one of the outriggers to break the bead with. He looked at me like I had gone crazy. I told him to run it out about 3 feet . I put the wheel under the edge of the pad and told him to go down easy so I could position the wheel. less than 45 seconds the beads were broke loose. I told him now it's your turn. He had the tire off and the new one on in less than 2 minutes. I put the wheel back on the bike then aired it up and set the bike back up on it's wheels paid the man and we were back on the road in 55 minutes from the time I called the tire center.
The cost of the tire and the service call was $205.00. That's $50 cheaper than the cost of a good MC tire.
I finally wore out my Bridgestone tires so I dark sided with a Toyo tire. Really pleased so far. Your videos were inspiring.
Thank you very much! Welcome to the Dark Side.
good job brother . I just ordered this system also .
I plan to use it on a table or bench at chest height or so .
If you warm the tire up , in your boiler room or with a heated blanket ... It helps to get them off easier.
I agree bead lube is a must.
I run commander 2s on my star. Just tired of using spoons haha.
Gotta save your back brother.
A bench would be helpful. Thanks for watching, and let me know how long the tire changer takes to ship to you.
Redbeard, from one red bearded mechanic (myself) to another. Do what you feel is right for you, I can't do that for myself or customers-with a clean conscience. Doug🏍️🤓🐻
Don't go against your conscience. I'm just a shade tree mechanic are you professional?
@@AdventureswithRedbeard I became a mechanic in '95 and have worked to be a good mechanic, giving customers the best possible service I can. I'm not belittling your way of doing what you do-thats not proper professional mechanics eticate. Doug👍
I just ordered mine !! After seeing few TH-cams… I knew this has to be right system for me, I’m too olde for spoon work !! Ordered 4 new tires for 2 motorcycles, commander II, uh oh !! After receiving those tires… sidewall is stiffer as heck!! Knew I’m gonna have tough time time… days after searching for tire machine.., seeing this unit… this GOTTA work !! Certainly will work off my metal work bench…. … also just ordered Murphy’s liquid lube… boy !!! I’m PLANNING AHEAD !! Owning 7 motorcycles will make this worth buying!!
Thanks for sharing this. With 7 bikes you should make your money back quickly. Did you pay for air shipping or is it coming over via cargo ship?
The Gold Wing tire is supposed to one of the toughest. good work
Thanks! The Olmaxmotors tool makes it easy.
Sure enjoyed the tire guy irish jig flip flop dance!! Brings back lotsa memories of being a junkyard raised kid breaking down tires and getting dirty!! Thx!
Thanks! Maybe I should've put some Irish music in the background...
Red, I used a Kuhmo H426 195/60/16. It fit without rubbing and because it was taller than the 195/55/16 it corrected the speedo and increased the mileage a hair.
I wondered if a different tire size would help that. Thank you!
Back in the day on the farm we used a car bumper jack to break the bead , and some of the tires where large and had to resort to bigger heavier means . Seems your tool needs to be bolted down to a solid surface.
That would make it easier. I am thinking about attaching it to my trailer so I can take it to people who may need help. Any suggestions on how?
Good Togo,just can’t barefoot it.Hope it works out for you,might try on the F6B.Be safe !
Thank you! I've ridden around 3,000 miles already and so far so good. Do you ride an F6B?
@@AdventureswithRedbeard yes
I have run CTs on all my wings 2 or 3 wheel and probably mounted over 100 over the years. Get some decent tire irons and toss the changer as I tried one and it was a horrible experience. Also good catch on the non runflat as the RF tire is absolutely the wrong path to go/ 26lbs will be perfect and 45 to 50k should be expected. Best advice is stay off the Darkside boards as most information is incorrect. Typically a tire change takes less that 20 minutes start to finish if you use proper irons. Good luck and lower that pressure it will be perfect
Thanks for the advice. 100 tires is significant experience.
Did my GW today ... I used a honda civic and a 3 ft 2x 6 to break the bead on the motorcycle tire.... then I used the civic again on a RF driveguard to hold it down in the channel while i spooned it on...
The Olmaxmotors tool is cheaper than a honda civic :)
Red just run 32psi and it will be fine. I've changed 1000's of tires.btw instead of using that bead sealer and a brush just use dawn dish soap
Thanks for the tips!
I’m running a Pirelli P1 RF. My first time with a CT and have over 6K on it right now but I’ve been maintaining 36psi in mine. Looks like you didn’t do too bad with your changer since it wasn’t bolted down, and up off the ground.
Thanks for watching. How do you like that Pirelli? I did replace the front tire with much less trouble. It's getting easier.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard I really like it. I already have another one to mount on my extra set of wheels. I rode the Dragon a couple weeks ago and had zero issues with the CT.
@@workharddieproud Glad to hear.
Mount the tire tool to that trailer. Thanks for the video, thinking about going dark. Any difference in the ride?
Mounting it to the trailer is a good idea. I've thought about putting it in the trailer, but if I were to mount it somehow...I'll put more thought into this.
Most people notice a little more effort with the counter-steering at first, but it goes away. I've noticed more stability on the interstate, grated bridges and grooved roads are no longer a concern. Better wet traction (compared to the E4's at least) and a general smoother ride. I have a few videos reviewing my experience if you're interested.
Thanks for the idea, and let me know if you come to the Darkside 🙂
I should have mentioned in my post that mounting it would be attach it and then be able to detach it easily a couple of mounting brackets or bolts would probably make it work really easy to put on and take off when you're not using it. That is something you don't use everyday.
@@roysamuels2937 True, it is a good height. Or maybe a shelf to attached to the trailer where the tool can mount to.
Hey Red, I’m about to ride my 08 Goldwing to Deadhorse Alaska, will the Dunlop trailmax mission fit the Goldwing? If not, what do you recommend?
I like your thinking! I would love to take my Goldwing to Alaska and I like the way you think with the Trailmax Mission. @twowheelsbiglife uses the Trailmax Mission and they seem to love those tires. Unfortunately this tire doesn't come in the right size for the Goldwing. I've often wondered if a M/S car tire on the rear would be helpful. I don't have any experience with this, but I'd be very interested if anyone has. If you find anything please let me know. Keep on trucking and praising the Lord! Blessing to you.
I live outside fairbanks ak. I got a dl 650. I drive semi to deadhorse and back on a regular basis. I would never take a bike up there. Not that you can't do it, but it beats the hell out ofbig trucks. Bikes get it even worse.
Like that tire changing device, much more affordable than the rabaconda...as for the tire, a runflat must give a pretty harsh ride on a bike...
Hey, @Speedytrip. I thought the runflat was smoother than the Dunlop E4's that I used. But a non runflat with the right amount of air is silky smooth. Are you Darkside?
Nice tire changer. Maybe I should get one like that and then find a 20" tree trunk and set it in the ground or something to mount it on.
Tree trunk or sturdy bench. My dad has a different style (No-Mar) that you mount to a concrete slab. It has a stand with it so you don't have to crawl on the ground. The Olmaxmotors is more trackside design.
Get a heavy pallet, beef up the bolt holes and lag-bolt that tire changer to it. Still portable, but not skidding around. You can stand on it.
That's good advice. It has gotten easier. Thanks!
Just tried removing my old Dunflop tire with tire irons. I ended up having to cut the damn thing off. Tried the zip tie method first to no avail, then went with the irons. Using four of them and tons of lube, I was able to get ONE side of my tire off. The other simply wasn’t going to work over the edge of the rim. Used a reciprocating saw to cut it off, just thinking the tire was old and hard. There is no way in hell that I’m going to be able to just press the new tire on over the rim. Tried the zip tie method with that too and I’ve got a solid couple inches of tire bead hanging over the other side of the wheel if I start the tire on one edge under the rim lip. You made pushing on that first bead look so easy 😅. I’m giving up and taking it to a tire shop and I never give up. HOURS of fussing with that wheel and scratching up my rim.
Tires can be the most frustrating thing to work on. It's like they just taunt you with the almost going on. I sometimes leave the tires in the sun for a little while before working with them and that seems to help some. No shame in taking the tire to the shop to save your back and your rim. Before I got this Olmaxmotors I used the tire tools with varying results.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard Yep! Frustrating is definitely a word for it 🤣
I have the same issues. I use an angle grinder to very carefully cut the cord on one side. Lots of smoke and extra clean up but I figure the $50 I save goes in the gas tank
Cool Video. I have the device too. I mainly use it to change motorbike tyres. I recently changed 2 tyres from my trailer. Hard work.... By the way, funny to see that you can buy this thing in North America too. The manufacturer is in Poland and I bought it there directly....
Thank you! I purchased mine from Lukasz in Poland too. Shipping took some time. He has no distribution here in North America. How long have you had yours?
@@AdventureswithRedbeard I bought it some years back. Shipping from Poland to Germany was quite fast and Lukasz even speaks German. I am very satisfied with the tool. In recent years, many tyre shops here in Germany have stopped fitting motorbike tyres. With the device, I am flexible and save in the long run. Have fun with the tool...
I wouldn’t assume that 41psi was too much based on that tread wear. I saw a car tire run at a lower psi on a Wing that had considerable sidewall damage; really looked like it was run flat it looked so bad. So I’d say yours was probably a good result.
Thanks. I currently have 1,500 more miles on the Kumo than the Driveguard and have fairly even treadwear (~4/32nds). Sounds like overinflation may be better than under. I picked a small car my tire is used on and used that pressure. Mini Cooper = Goldwing? Do you know how low a pressure was used?
@@AdventureswithRedbeard I think it was 34-36 but this was one big trip he took and was probably loaded heavy too.
What's your followup on the Kumho non runflat? I'm about ready to get another CT. I have the DriveGuard. It still has tread on it, but it is 6+ years old. Is that okay
Thanks for asking. I like the Kumho Majesty 9. The non run-flat provided a very smooth ride. But I changed the air pressure from the run-flat. I did have a flat with this tire, not a fun experience. Just today I got my new tire and it's a Pirelli run flat. I thought I would try a run-flat with the lower pressure I've been running (32 psi). I'll have a video discussing all of that.
6+ years is getting old for a tire. Most recommend no more than 5 years for a car or motorcycle tire. I recommend you getting a new tire.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard I just got a Yokohama run flat and put it on a day ago. It feels much smoother and quieter than the DriveGuard. I' m on a 300 mile weekend trip with my trailer, and so far it's all good.
@@toanogreen Nice! Which Yokohama? Where are you camping? Which trailer do you have?
@@AdventureswithRedbeard 1) I have the Yokohama Avid Envigor 195-55-16 run flat. One thing I noticed immediately is it is mor round than the Drive Guard, almost like a MC tire. It feels great. 2) I'm in the New Bern NC area. 3) I don't have a camping trailer, I have a Can Am RT 622 trailer. Love it. We are renting a cabin
@@toanogreen I'll have to check that tire out. I'm not familiar with New Bern, but everywhere I have been in NC is very nice. I've heard good things about the can am trailers. Sounds like you're having a great weekend. Enjoy!
Thanks for your vidéo and courage :) 195/55/r16 tire work up to original GL 1500 Rim ??
On the forum Goldwingfacts.com that is one of the tire sizes they say works. But there is a -6.27% odometer change.
So how did the tire work out , i run a driveguard RF with 35psi on the rear of my 09 wing & love it , did you notice a difference in handling between the RF & non RF , & what pressure did you finally stay with .
Thanks
The Kumho Majesty 9 is working out great. Running it at 33 psi, the same pressure used on a Mini Cooper. I changed too many things to say which one, but between not being a RF and a lower pressure, this tire handles like a dream. Extra smooth. I rode for a hour or so on a concrete highway and didn't notice until someone said something. Maybe the expansion joints were closer than most, I don't know. This is the tire I used for my Sturgis trip with all those rides. Check out that video if you're interested. How long have you used the Driveguard?
Sorry been awhile , guess I've been riding too much , have about 15,000 on the driveguard, still looks great 🤔, pretty sure, Bridgestone discontinued the 195-55 as no one has it anymore
I am new to riding the Dark side. I have about 1500 miles thus far on the F6b goldwing. The ride is a bit different. Much better on the highway, grooved concrete and those dang metal grates on expansion bridges. Tell me I’m not the only one that hates going on long metal bridges? The bike does do better at stop lights, the flat tire seems to just keep the bike upright. Now slow speed maneuvering is a little different, but I have gotten used to it. I have never done a cone course but would like to try one or even take lessons at one…. Does anyone know one close to Charleston, SC?
Welcome to the Darkside! I hated going on metal bridges too, now I don't notice them. Cool, huh? I've heard rumor that the training arm of GWRRA will continue, maybe check with them? Keep me updated on your continued experience and if you can find a class.
I wish I could dark side my Sportster. I haven't found a tire that would fit though, not in a regular car tire that is. The only thing I could find in the right size would be one of those cheap spare car tires that don't last and I don't think are very safe. They are only for temporary emergency use.
What is the narrowest car tire in 90 / 16 anyone has found? Anybody?
Spare tire doesn't sound like a good idea. Bound to be something out there. Anybody!?!
Ran the drivegard on my 09 didn’t like the flat feeling at slower speeds.Now thinking of trying a tire with a more rounded edges,on the F6B.How was the trip to Sturgis?
This Kumho did well to Sturgis. Many of the expansion joints I didn't even notice. Max mentioned them to me. The softer sidewalls and lower air pressure seem to be treating me well. I need to do some cone work and see how it feels low speed.
I watched fortnines dark side video recently and he mentioned the need to countersteer through a full corner to overcome the car tyres tendency to try and keep the bike upright. Does this not result in your front tyres wearing out quicker?
It's been a while since I watched fortnine's darkside video. I may have to rewatch to see what he was saying there and I will have to put some thought into this question. I haven't seen anyone address this before.
Depend on your riding style. If you countersteer, yes, the front tire wear faster. But isthis darkside related? On theother side, Fortnine is a idiot. He use a abnormal wide and flat ct.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard I haven't watched the video you are talking about. I have been running the Dark Side since 2008 and under normal riding you don't have to counter-steer. Now if you are dragging pegs and riding real aggressive, you might use a little. I have never noticed any excessive front tire wear.
Oh get that changer mounted up about waist high and solid, it will save your back and tire changes will be easier and faster. I use a modified Harbor Freight unit with the duckhead.
Have you got to use that tire changer anymore ?? I was thinking about getting one.
After my rear tire I did my front. I then tried car tires, but this isn't the right tool for that. The center hubs for cars are much bigger. That's all I've done, but the front was easy. That's why I tried the car tire on car rims.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard Thank you, I was wondering about actual car tire / wheels changes but that’ll end up being more than I want to get into. So I’m just gonna stick with motorcycle tire changes for my wing and other friends bikes. I seen another video here on the tube about it, mechsavvy, he had high remarks regarding that olmax. Anyway, I’m gonna get one soon I hope. Thanks again !!
non run flats on GL1800 need higher pressure than do run flats, I use 43 psi, but your choice is your choice.
Everyone has to dial in their tires to their preference. I hasn't happy with the wear on mine at stock pressure.
Redbeard Run 29psi in that rear tire, that's what I run in mine. (35000 miles out of it)
I'll try that, thanks. 35k sounds nice. I did notice with my new TPMS that the rear tire gets warm so the pressure goes up to about 40. I'll see what 29psi does. How long have you been Darkside?
@@AdventureswithRedbeard first one was in 2008
Very dangerous! The bead has a different shape , so a car bead doesn’t lock in correctly and direction and tread matching of rear to front is also important not to mention cornering issues. Man I hope something takes you back to motorcycle tires before you have a serious issue! I’m praying god keeps you in his grace! God bless you brother!
Thanks for your concern and prayers. The bead issue was a concern for me too. It was the reason I didn't go Darkside for a long time. But the vast amount of people doing this for the decades and millions of combined miles made me think I should try it for myself. Removing a car tire from a motorcycle rim, which is in this video, shows how well the bead seals. it is just as difficult, if not more, to break the bead on a car tire on a motorcycle rim as a motorcycle tire on a motorcycle rim.
Just getting on a motorcycle is considered "very dangerous" to many people. We all need to evaluate our risk level comfort and ride our own ride. I trust you have a motorcycle you love to ride. Would you tell me a bit about it?
That tyre changer looks like hard work, you might have been better off just using big tyre levers once you break the bead, that's pretty much what I used to use just tyre levers and getting the tyre off and on seemed much easier than that tyre changer.
I was beginning to wonder too. But I've used it some more and learned the technique. It's a lot easier now. I'll need to do an update video with my next tire change. Thanks for watching and commenting.
You should likely be running lower pressure on the tire than the Goldwing spec because you are using a significantly wider tire.
Is it the width or the weight rating?
Remember the weight rating of the car tire is in the vertical position, so in a corner that inside sidewall is carrying most of the weight.
@@jimstenlund6017 You have me thinking about tire geometry. On a motorcycle in a curve, the weight of the bike is pushing down on the tire. The tire is at an angle, but so is the bike and the forces associated. I agree with you that most of the weight would transfer to that inside sidewall. On a car, in a sharp corner, a lot of the force moves to the rim and bead, perpendicular to the contact patch as the momentum of the car is pushing to go a different direction than the tire. Those sidewalls need to be very strong to not rip or separate from the rim with those forces. It seems to me the sidewall of a front tire on a car in a sharp turn could have more force on it than the weight of the car. I'll have to contact some mechanical engineering friends and see if they can do that calculation.
What about balancing beads, would they work?
I've heard good things about balancing beads, but I haven't used them. Are you Darkside?
@@AdventureswithRedbeard no still on the fence. How do they corner, you can really lean the bike over? Also how are they with a passenger?
@@Kolsch221 They corner great. Yellow Wolf used them on the Dragon. I rode the Dragon with them, and think I rode pretty aggressively on the Richard B Russell Scenic Byway th-cam.com/video/WPuZ_G_-Gac/w-d-xo.html. You can also see my crash video where the tires held until I was on the crash bars and the tires were lifted up. You can see that one here: th-cam.com/video/mubzz2WZgfk/w-d-xo.html. I don't ride with passengers very much, but all the co-riders I've heard from say they ride is much more comfortable. Do you ride mainly backroads or highway?
@@AdventureswithRedbeard thanks for that response! I ride back roads highway and with passengers.
@@Kolsch221 nice! I think the car tire excells on the highway/interstate but is also great everywhere else. My opinion is if high mileage while towing and/or passenger a car tire is highly recommended.
Always start at the valve and finish at the valve.
Thanks for the advice. I try to stay away from the valve stem.
You need some shoes mate. :-)
I follow Jimmy Buffett's idea that no one should wear shoes unless they have to :)
@@AdventureswithRedbeard lol.
So my understanding the whole reason of why people put darkside tires on those bikes is for mileage I wish you would have actually spent more time talking about mileage or did you maybe make a separate video that's nothing about nothing but mileage I mean
While a car tire gets more milage, I don't spend a lot of time on mileage. Do you have a specific question on mileage? I do have other videos talking Darkside. Here is my playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLTQHVto8E08KZJNV0fRbL5NRdh4Bp-KDs.html
And the review before this one:
th-cam.com/video/ZmbjM7rHFp4/w-d-xo.html
Don't every use a runflat tire for anything. They are horrible.
I hear advice on both sides. What was your experience?
Need to wear shoes!
I follow Jimmy Buffet, he says no sane person would wear shoes unless they had to 😁
Don't trust someone who changes a tyre with bare feet and leaves a knife on the floor, where they are working. Clearly, they have no understanding or regard for safety! Dark siding is a bad idea. Just because it's cheaper does not mean it's right!
Before going to the Darkside ask yourself:
if someone you care about was hurt/killed in or by a vehicle that had a tyre on it that was not designed for that vehicle what would you want to happen?
What if the tyre was the wrong size, had a lower speed index or lower load rating.
What would you want to happen, to the person that chose to fit that tyre?
What if they had mixed innertubes with tubless, radials with bias or cross-ply tyres? if you don't understand that and the construction you should not be advising or thinking about doing this because you don't know what you're doing.
Why am I writing this? Simple I know what I'm doing and care about road safety?
If you hurt someone and your bike is investigated I'm pretty sure your insurance would not payout, meaning you are liable for the compensation and the money you have saved on the tyre is now being paid to the person you have hurt along with any other earnings you make. That cheap tyre is now starting to look pretty expensive now.
By the way, some car tyres are directional, and some are asymmetric which means they have outside only, don't give people ideas of doing something when you don't know what you're doing.
Are you a trained and qualified motorcycle engineer or tyre designer?
FYI for anyone in the UK that sees this using a car tyre on a solo motorcycle is illegal; it is an MOT failure and your insurance will be invalid if you have an accident.
Thank you for your passionate comment. I can clearly tell you are concerned for safety. The car tire I use and the previous one are safer than the motorcycle tires I've used. Wet traction is better and the weight rating is better, not to mention a much smoother ride.
You may not want to hear that I have a rear tire on the front of my bike as well, and I've mounted it in the opposite direction. If anyone is interested in using tires "off label" there are databases where you can see what tires are used on which bikes and make an informed decision.
There is risk anytime we get on the road, whether by car or bike. Everyone must choose their acceptable levels. Some never even ride a motorcycle due to the risk. Stay safe out there and enjoy your ride.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard From my professional experience with both car and motorcycle tyres you get what pay for. I would never buy or suggest anything but a premium brand tyre, quite frankly I feel mid range and budget tyres should be banned. So two questions from your comments:
1. Have you ever used a top of the range motorcycle tyre on this bike?
2. Are databases you mention compiled by a motorcycle engineer or tyre manufacturer if not you might want to stress that. Because if they are not the person reading it can not make an informed decision.
@@tomstanley7773 Prior to going Darkside I primarily used Metzler 888 then to Dunlop Elite 4's. I'm much happier with my car tire.
I'm a big fan of experience. I have over 20k miles of experience with a car tire and I learned from people with many more than that. Car tires have been used on motorcycles for many decades. As a large bike owner, touring motorcycle tires don't last and are prone to blowouts. Using a car tire on an 800 plus pound motorcycle is certainly something to consider.
How can you not make an informed decision reading the experience of others? Numerous people with hundreds of thousands of miles just might know something.
@@AdventureswithRedbeard Using a car tire that fits well on the rear wheel of a motorcycle makes sense to me. Especially if you are a long haul, cross country rider, pulling a trailer etc. Reading about the possible insufficient match up of the car tire with the bead on a motorcycle wheel concerns me enough that I won't be using one. I ride with my young children and I won't do anything that could possibly increase the risk of having an accident/crash. However, if I was riding alone, making 1000 mile rides everyday, I would definitely consider it.
@@GamingwithKandA the bead issue was my last objection. There are people who can machine the bead to match the car tire bead. The experience of others with no issues convinced me. At the end of the day you have to do what you feel is best for you. Keep those kids safe and thank you for including them on your rides, we need the next generation to be safe, thoughtful riders. Good job.