DO MOST HARLEY GUYS BUY AMERICAN HISTORY OR SPECS?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- I have discovered that MOST Harley guys are different than other riders. When we buy a motorcycle we buy the history of it not the specs so much.
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Don’t know if I buy SPEC or history. All my street bikes from 1986 till present have been Asian bikes until I bought my first Harley in 2022, a new Heritage.
I’m on the Heritage now almost exclusively. I just like the bike and where it’s power/torque is.
I have two Asian bikes plus the Harley to choose from.
One Asian bike is a 2016 Kawasaki Versys 1000. The other is a 2018 Kymco Spade 150.
The Versys is basically a Kawasaki Ninja 1000. Uses the same engine and main frame as the Ninja but with a different front and back end compared to the Ninja.
The Versys in-line 4 produces about 125 horse power at the crank. Shoot, the BMW S1000XR in-line 4, or the Ducati Multistrada V twin or V4, or the KTM 1290 V twin or the Suzuki GSXS 1000 in-line 4 all produce what, around 150 horse power each. If I’m chasing SPEC, why didn’t I purchase one of these bikes instead of the Harley recently.
Maybe it’s my age as I turn 60 in two weeks 😀
I like motorcycles and I own three different types at the moment.
I just buy and ride what I like.
Well said. The quality of metric bikes is a given, however Harleys have soul.
Great content Mr Geezer, If Harley was good enough for Elvis it was good enough for me, but it’s more than that , it a life style , a culture 👍🇦🇺
Came across you U-tube channel&had to say I enjoyed learning history on Harley bike purchases.I will admit my 1st thought was it could be down paymt for your 1st home but I wasn’t putting the emotional impact into a reason for that purchase. Yes American made, quality is why I love them. But for me I had to settle for my collection of T-shirts I have from many states I’ve traveled to or purchased on line,@ vintage specialty shops!
I buy because of the American nostalgia of Harley, being American made, and I like the old school look and feel of a Harley. I hope they square things away, Harley’s have a soul, it’s a shame to see it threatened by their leadership.
Well said. I couldn't agree with you more. Great video.
Great content I been riding HD for 50 years, have had oil leaks that were impossible to repair
Overheating problems however made it through. I love the sound and the brand HD forever🇺🇸👍🏻
I’ve owned lots of different brands of bikes, but I like my Street Guild the best. I like the culture of the Harley Davidson crowd. I think that the independent dealerships don’t get enough credit for building that culture.
I'm glad somebody finally addressed this, history is a big part of my interest in the Harley brand. This recent going Woke campaign, feels more to me, like an attack on the culture. Divide and conquer. Take a look at Triumph, BSA, Royal Enfield, any brand you wanna talk about. They've all lost their heritage and have been reduced to generic brands. Nothing genuine about any of them. I own two Harleys. I've enjoyed the pride of ownership since 1995, I've sacrificed and stretched my finances to own a domestic brand with over a 100 year history, I take pride in the history and culture. But I'm afraid we're seeing that quality go away, I'm 59 years old, so my riding days are numbered. But I don't think the motor company is doing themselves any favors by cheapening the brand. But I guess with all this said, at the end of the day, people aren't loyal to anything anymore. Seems like anything that boasts our history and pride, be it Civil War monuments, anything attached to our history is being erased and re written. When your history and culture is erased, you're conquered and no longer exists. Just something to chew on. Thanks for the effort you put in your video, and the opportunity to respond.
Nah, for me it's just what interests me at the time. I've owned Harleys mostly with the occasional other brands sprinkled in and even a Victory Vision Tour....LOL! It's still the best tourer I've ever ridden. I like American history and what made this nation great however think the world is leaving us behind.
For me my Harley is more than just a MC. if I looked at it that way any MC would do its just transportation right? That's not why I have owned Harley's for 50 years, for me it's more like a rolling piece of art. Maybe I have been luckier than most, but all my Harley's have been more than reliable and I'm pretty handy, so I've handled most of the repairs myself. The memories my Harley's have given me can never be replaced.
I will agree that that Pan America is an amazing sport touring motorcycle. No looking for history, just want an amazing, reliable motorcycle.
There’s one way to get the best of both camps, INDIAN! I was waiting on an American built bike that rode and handled this good!!
In 2017 I was in a position to buy a new touring motorcycle. I looked at the Honda goldwing, Indian roadmaster and Harley Davidson ultra limited. It was Harley for me. New engine, suspension, infotainment etc. On my second Harley now, road glide limited. Have not seen anything to match my 21 yet. Indian is close with the pursuit. The new wing is nice, but I think it is more of a sport tourer, similar to the bmw.
I bought my Harley because of the American history and the ability to customize it to my personal desires.
I ride a Harley because of many things, including the history, the lifestyle, the look and feel of the bike but also the support. Quality has improved greatly over the years and now on my 2024 RG, once all the bugs are worked out, it’s a really fun bike to ride/tour on. It’s not the fastest, but it is fasts enough. It looks great, sounds-ok as it is still stock, but the custom things I do to the bike are a hobby of mine. I don’t need the bike to get to work- I like to ride the bike to work. I like riding. I also like individualizing it so it is mine. I did buy my first Harley because it was American made and had better support than Indian, but I would consider Indian now too.
Interesting question with no real answer as it's just too personal. In my humble opinion, if you want the emotional and historical bit it's HD built if you want pure specs it will be Italian, Japanese or German depending on your need. A motorcycle is usually an emotional purchase so your focus will be different. And that's ok... you do you.
Very well said. I've had most of them. I want a motorcycle that is comfortable for my wife and I. The biggest reason I ride a Harley an American made bike is that wherever we go I can get parts that are in stock and repairs done if needed almost anywhere with over 650 dealerships in America! Im not positive but I don't think you can say that with any other brand?
I think your take is spot on, owning and maintaining a motorcycle is a wants not a needs thing I think Harley will have a rough time in the future, their base is getting older every day 🙈
HD is American like peanut butter and jam ,just gotta have it
When you buy a Harley, you're buying into the culture and life style, nothing else . . . JMHO
Great video , great points 👍🏻👊🇺🇸😎
The top two comments when I watched said they like that they're American made, the look and the sound, but didnt care about history or specs.
Are people really this thick?
* The LOOK
* The SOUND
* American made
IS HISTORY, HERITAGE.
Harley is doing as all corporations are doing. Forget everything and everyone. The bottom line, MORE money is the reason they exist, their purpose in life. If HD goes, there is no hope for us who believe in more than money.
Indeed!
I have had over 15+ bikes over the years. 9 were Hondas. I liked all of them. I hated to see them go, but I can't keep them all. I spent way too much money on motorcycles. I just bought my 4th Harley. My first Harley was a Softail Custom. Then two SGS. Now a Fat Boy. I always put bags, engine guard, heated grips, luggage rack, highway pegs, aftermarket pipes. Money, money, money 😢 I love Harley-Davidson for how they look and sound. Not history or specs. I hope this is my last bike, lol, my wife said, "you said that before on my last 5 bikes.
The look and the sound ARE history.
Well I did it. I purchased a scorched orange 2019 road glide special with lowers and tour pack added. Yay! It also has ohlins suspension front and back. Time to “crush” some miles. I have a Honda vtx1800 which I love, but I had to stop for gas every 100 miles. This road glide seems to have a 250-300 mile range. And there is just a connection to Harley bikes that I have always wanted. Hope to attend Sturgis in the next few years on the new bike. I’m 55 and figured I’d better get the big tour bike while I’m still able to enjoy it. We lost a friend to cancer two days ago and she was a Harley rider. We rode many miles with her and her husband and she will be missed. We made the Harley purchase the same day she died wish we could have made a few more rides with her on our new bike but she will be on our shoulder and with us as we put miles on this new bike.
Sorry for your loss. Honoring her is a nice thing to do.
I think you nailed it. Its the way I feel.
My wife went out and bought a new HD Nightster 975 with the RevMax motor and it’s kinda growing on me. As long as it makes her happy 😎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks for another thought provoking video. One of the disturbing aspects of buying a new HD is that you have to "fix" it, at least with a stage one, before taking it home. However, one of the great things about buying a new HD is that you can personalize it; making it one of a kind. I own two HD Road Glides, a 2020 Special a 2022 ST (you can tour with it as I've driven cross country with this bike). With the modifications (engine, shocks, infotainment, and other options) there aren't any exactly like them anywhere. That's part of the fun!
I finally bought a road glide because I could not ride my GSXR 750 for more than an hour without doubling up in pain lol
@@cc9981 comfort is 900 lbs of Road Glide going down the road.
I ride H.D because they are the original Outlaw motorcycles, no other bike can compete: Bad Ass bikes.👍👍👍🇦🇺
I’m on a 2013 ultra limited. Definitely love it
We're not buying a Harley because of the history; I'm buying a Harley because it's American made. For instance, I won't buy Harley leather because it's not American made. I buy FoxCreek leather because it is American made. Great videos by the way. Thanks for the great content.
American made = history
More like American assembled...and with the move to Thailand that number will fall further. The company uses parts that are manufactured from all over the globe including Mexico, Japan and even China. Say you buy a Harley-Davidson because you like the way it looks and sounds or even because it has a rich American history dating back to 1901, but you're kidding yourself if you think it's 100% American made.
@ronfriedman8740 Well, I'm completely aware of what you're saying; however, they're still assembled in America, and it is still an American made bike. Thanks for your comment.
What's that they say? "History isn't what it used to be".
why they not catering to the increasing number women riders & buyers
@@feline-n6b I think the Sportster is aimed at that market
@@HarleyGeezer1954 women can get any bike they want
Fantastic content.
I don't buy or ride Harleys at all. They are heavy, slow and have shitty chassis and even shittier brakes.
At 61 still layn down the miles on an FJR. Riding 50 years Japanese love my il4s.😎🚬🏍
@scotthunter9332 When I hear "Performance Bagger" I think FJR1300, Ninja 1000SX, and H2SXSE.