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Gentlemen's agreement: www.aerogeltechnologies.com/ge....
Version 4 STI Photo: www.torque-gt.co.uk/blog/post...
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Death note Kira Laugh: • Death Note - Kira's La...
Rumble clip: • 02 wrx with an EJ207 v...
No Rumble clip: • V8 STi EJ207 - Twinscr...
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Closed deck block: www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/en...
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Video suggestion make a video of all the wrx/sti trims and features from the GC to the VA. love the videos, keep grinding.
Thanks man! I’ll keep it in mind
I own a Wr1, and pushing 380 horses and 500 Nm . Boost is at 1.53bar and this has been done with EcuTEK. Note, my car is a 2004 for those who don't know the Wr1. Bought it when it was factory new (500km on odometer) only owner for 19 years now 284500km. Regular services following the book. It has a Invidia downpipe, Blitz catback, supersprint 2.5 inch uppipe, K&N typhoon intake, helix group N clutch and more.
Thanks for sharing! That’s awesome man. It goes to show proper maintenance goes a long way.
I keep hearing subaru engine block have huge problem expecially after mod.. Its because user dint make good maintainence (engine oil & wear tear) or its because heavly mod?
I believe almost all vehicle have difference problem but if make good maintainence, it should be no major problem..
@@annoyerboka no subaru engine isn't a typical engine where you can slap things and expect things to work. Yes the subaru engines are sensitive. But if you use the right mods and tune properly. Then you can push Hella hp on it
The folks at Roger Clarke claim 420bhp on the V7/V8s before major problems and rebuilds.
Some make a little more, 430-450 reversing the inlet manifold, air con delete etc for a front mount, before major problems.
Oil changes every 1500-3000miles always help.
Nice car BTW, probably the best of all road going Subarus.
States hp but uses barometric pressure 🤮
I’ve still got mine and it still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it 💨💨
Awesome! How long have you had it??
I've owned a few JDM GC8's EJ20G, EJ20K, EJ205, EJ207, they all feel pretty darn similar. I'm pretty positive all 92-96 EJ20G are closed deck (can confirm my 94 RA is closed deck at least). It was the EJ20G in the 97-98 Foresters and WRX hatchbacks that were open deck. They had the code name EJ20G but in reality they were basically phase 1 EJ205's. As for the 180km gauges part of your video. GC8 STI could be had with a 240km gauge from factory (two of my cars had them).
I also live in Alberta and also owned a handful of imports 5-10 years ago for dirt cheap (many Subaru's, Evo 6, Soarer, RX7, ect) all for less then $10k. Crazy what people will pay for them now. These cars use to be so dispensable that no one took care of them. I'm glad I still have one of my GC8's after all these years luckily.
Good to know!
Nice history and info. Still love driving my V7 swapped Bugeye from 2005.
Love it! Great break down! Definitely enjoyed mine when I owned it extremely solid engine out the gate. Don’t get me wrong though a 257 is also a great engine as well, but that 207 once it you reach higher rpm’s just felt like it wanted to keep going even with a 5 speed it would boogie
Absolutely love it, there's nothing like one
Agreed👍
loved this , great video !
Thanks Leon!
Good knowledge. Well done
It has to be. SRTUSA still uses ej207 blocks in all their rally cars. Nice video man.
Good point! Damn , I should have added that in my video haha! Thanks for the comment
Maybe the greatest Sti engine ever but the FA24DIT seems to be Subarus best engine ever. I'm at 350hp and 350tq with ETS front mount and ETS intake on 93. Really can't beat that. Plus I can hear my radio and the cops don't hear me coming.
The FA24 is a beast forsure. Less mods for more power! The numbers show it’s worth!
I'd love to drive one of those.. I heard one with a muffler delete, and it actually sounded soooo good.. sounded like a seriously built EJ
I have a ej207 v7 in my bugeye. Kinda same type of feelings as you, its a beast and I think its one of the best subaru made. Always descriped it as it sings at high RPM. But its a little bit of a freak in how fast it really is, mine is tuned and pretty much all the bolt ons. Ive taken cars I should not of been able in that one, and that includes ej257 cars with bigger turbos. I think there is alot going on particularly in the V7 in regards to its better in real life than it should be on paper. I also have ej257 with a blouch 1.5xtr in my GC, I do think that car is faster(I really need to take both to the drag strip) but maybe not be that much. And its a totally different feeling driving the two, the 207 just wants to GO and sing at those high rpms, the 257 is a good engine but it just feels slower, more sedated than the 207. Think of it this way, the 207 is kid with ADHD that just ate a bag of candy, the 257 is that kids dad. Slower moving but same kind of energy.
LOL I love that analogy with the adhd kid and the dad. Hats off to you sir, I need more creativity and humour like that in my video! All the best with your builds 👍
@@carswithsepp Hahaha its a car guy thing, the more you joke about what you love means you love it that much more
Hi i have a GT SF5 forester - brought a RA STI EJ207 SPEC C short block - cast pistons - fully re-built ej205 non avcs - big springs top valves - runs smooth quiet spins up big time - td04 and 440cc big tube in big exhaust out uncatted up-pipe STI trans and LSD 4.44 gears white line braces sway bars drop links anti lift alloy lower arms 17 x 7 wheels sti brakes s/steel lines top shelf discs and pads - sleeper track car - looks special stock SUBARU more smiles per miles !
I'm always laughing when people make fun of me for buying an STI. I'm like, bruh you don't know how friggn good this 207 is. Fun fact: Friend of mine mocked me and said haha whens you HG gonna explode, guess who's dumbass bmw HG blew up like 3 weeks later.
I’ve owned three subarus. Not one ever had a head gasket issue LOL
For sure! I have only driven one car with an ej207 but it was pretty great. I live in the US (land of the blown-up ej's) and have owned a few ej powered cars. A legacy wagon with th ej222 which made it to 380,000 miles, an ej253 in a forester that i drove for a couple years with no issues, and the ej257 in my current car. No problems at all. Just keep up on maintenance. Some engines are idiot proof, but i don't think subaru engines are. Probably not even the legendary 207. Even the US spec engines make for reliable cars as long as the operator has at least half a brain
I have a bugeye wagon with the ej207 v8 under the hood. Anybody reading, you won't regret buying one they are amazing. I want to switch to a front mount eventually but for now I'm rocking the fattest top mount that I could find. I'm sure a bigger turbo would be nuts, but with my wiseco pistons, manley rods, and some good bolt ons the twin scroll is just the little cherry on top. GO GET A 207, the low end torque makes you wonder why you ever drove a usdm wrx, and the looks from the 5.0 owners is hilarious when you fly by in a stock looking wagon.
Hey my bugeye wagon has 210k miles on it and I'm considering swapping in an ej207 from jdmracingmotors, I would put the full link but youtube doesn't like that, I'm wondering if you did the swap and what you thought of getting a motor from these guys, or just any general advice really, thank you!
@@crunchysoup406 I did do the swap myself! It’s very straightforward, its completely comparable except for the ecu side of things. Depending on what version you are looking for, get the matching ecu of correct version. From here drop the motor in and get an iwire kit to plug avcs into your ecu and wiring harness. It’s a very simple task of pinning in 4 wires in the engine bay and not too many more into the ecu inside of the car.
@@crunchysoup406 I haven’t dealt with jdmracingmotors, but generally most of the 207s that come over are very safe. Most of the motors coming over are at 25k miles due to emission regulations in Japan, so it’s a better route then buying a random ej from fb marketplace or whatever. Ironically I got mine on Facebook from a reputable dude who built the bottom end and rolled his car so I kind of scored, but don’t buy off fb unless you talk to the guy and make sure he’s knowledgeable and not some “stage x” because that will lead to a mismanaged motor 👍
@@crunchysoup406 I have a version 8 207 and I got it with the version 8 jdm ecu, again make sure to get matching ecu and iwire kit and that is the only boundary!
@@jackmitchell6354 what if I'm getting the ecu separate from the engine like off eBay or sum? Would it be better just to get it retuned?
Once my ej25 goes out I plan on getting a ej207 v7 & fully swap the drivetrain. I’m currently making 370hp with a protune. I have a vf43 turbo, Invidia dp , tomei catback, 5 inch tmic , greddy bpv, tomei turbo inlet , iag aos. Running very strong at 114k miles. No problems yet. But this video just reassured me ej207 swapping is worth it.
Also have Sti pink injectors & a walbro 255 pump.
Nice man! All the best with your build
I have a 03 jdm sti ( blobeye ) it made 284hp and 311tq stock car was 19 years old when it did that pull on the dyno 2 years ago
My 1997 wagon has a ej207 v7 has now got ported v6RA heads no avcs a T28 turbo old school disco potato and a few of RCM goodies 🙂
I also had a V8 UK STi PPP (blobeye) absolutely rapid car from factory on boost and making 320hp by 3000rpm
Avcs is amazing for getting the engine working low down
That's wicked! Love the wagons
Great video brother, off topic question, anyone know why Mitsubishi stop making EVOs?
What mods would i need to get a ej207 to make 350-400whp?
Im buying a shell without engine so i wanna do it the right way
The old Liberty 2.2 semi closed deck engine like in the 22b is the best. Crawford used to offer a 2.8 stroker for sandrails.
I never had V7, originally car had V8 Spec C, right now it has V9 Spec C.
Personally, I find the last one STI (JDM with ej207) the best in terms of stock performance
Ive got a JDM EJ205 and accelerates well
Nice!
Have an Australian GDB 2003 WRX STI in WRC Blue its on E85 1000cc injectors and flies
That sounds heavenly! How much whp are you pushing
Great video bro
Thanks bro! I appreciate you
Hi, thanks for the vid 👌.
Do you know of anyway I could properly identify the type of EJ20 sub assembly/short block I am looking at ? Special stamped codes that will indicate ej207 v7 for example..
I have a 2002 bug sti, bought it with a ej257 built fully forged bottom end and 2litre tops. However its been all but reliable.. So I am planning to go back stock, hence would like to know how to make sure... I 🙏🏽 the engine I get is a v7 207..
I appreciate the comment! It would be tricky to tell if you are only swapping the bottom end in. If the block is opened up you can at least be certain it’s an STI engine if the cylinder walls are supported at the 12-3-6-9 locations around the wall “clock face”. It’d be best to make sure wherever you’re buying from is reputable!
hey bro i think you missed a point - didn’t the 20k come with the best flowing heads? anyways sick video man, do you like the new jdm grb stis that are available to import?
I did not know that! Good point. Those GRB’s are sweet. Where are you importing to?
Jdm version 8/9 came with the best flowing heads
Its the best they made, but performance wise, only with AVCS and in the Spec-C/RA-R variant that comes with long runner manifold that has no TGVs, and importantly the VF42 twin scroll turbo/exhaust. Basically the engine which came with the S204. It was the only way to best optimise the loonnnng headers up to the turbo for better response, especially with the AVCS. Run it on E85 for the ultimate.
Thanks for sharing!
The thing to think about would be streetability vs track use i suppose. For street use having that 2.5 low end with a long rod and high comp piston maybe 8.5 or 9 will give you an immense amount of smoother than stock usable daily power over having to push the 207 to higher rpm constantly. "long" EJ 25 rods +2 mm, 15-18lb flywheel and a fluidampr would net you a far superior day to day engine. Would not have to bother switching to an equal length or a twin scroll to get 2500rpm full spool time either. OF COURSE there are ways to get that midrange power into the 207, but realistically its not the same just in terms of physical mass and engine stress, hauling people/tools/groceries is more realistic with the 25 imo
If we are talking track and spirited driving cars hell yeah solid motor, keeps you in boost well and has a very refined and free feel to it.
If you are interested in learning any additional super nerd grade specifics about the EJ motor you might look at MotoIQ, haltech, FlatIronsTuining, or baderbuiltracing. Not always application appropriate but hey might as well learn everything about it before its antiquated and gone!
Good notes! Thanks man
Been thinking of swapping my WRX with the VER IV STI block to gain more power. What are your thoughts?
Id say go for it! It would make really good power with equal length headers and a twin scroll turbo 👍👍
I had the ej207. I think it’s the best also the spec was almost near perfect it was crazy high reviving engine bud spec c had all aluminum construction for the entire car which didn’t even have a spare tire location. Unfortunately I found the car in the Middle East and was left hand drive. It got stolen from container!!!!
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I like the ej255
Can I ask what country your in/from?? Back when I started working on Subarus (1998ish) and swapping turbo engines into our US spec non turbocharged Imprezas and nobody knew what the heck a WRX even was lol
Needless to say you must be from a country outside of the United states
Canada !
swapped one into my GC, no idea why the EJ257 gets hype when this exist.
Nice man! Still making stock power or have you modified?
@@carswithsepp stock for now just got it in around October. Just typical intake exhaust,finishing the rest of the car before power.
You ever think on reviewing the 2021 forester??
If someone can get me one to review why not?? haha
My 2002 sti turbo is vf35 "factory turbo"
My 2002 STI Prodrive Type UK ran over 2bar of boost for 70,000 miles.... then I went to a 2.1 refresh for more low end torque.
Still have it, needs some parts and a birthday makeover, stripped out interior is too loud for road use at my age !
Very rare subie you have sir!
@@carswithsepp
Yup ! A Blue Black Mica example...... not many left now ( ?)
Would you therefore recommend taking a 2008 STI but with the 2.0 L engine?
Yeah if you’re in a place where they have the ej207 stock in the 2008 STI, that would be great!
@@carswithsepp Someone told me that only in Japan had been made of 2008 with the 2.0L. In Europe I think someone arrived and then was converted with left-hand drive. What do you think? I have, however, seen that Podruve produced a 22B called P25 where they used the 2.5 l.
Sti badge was first seen on legacy s
Before the wrx even existed at all
Yup
No it's not, the v8&v9 are definitely a bit better. They were twinscroll, also had better cams. They also had 1 piece long runner intake manifolds. The 207 is a kick ass engine!
Twin scrolls make great power too! I’m just biased haha!
Miss the UEL rumble, but the twin scroll 207 RIPS
Downside owning boxer engine?
So would the FA24 be the best they never released?
Incoming video!
That one came without head gaskets?
Classic haha
We can only imagine what the STI version of the FA24 could've been.
v8,v9,v10 ej207 are even better.
the W20c is the best technically, especially with best heads, double cross drilled nitrated crank, big port heads...
Great to know
@@carswithsepp look up w20C block, way thicker walls.
with right fuel ive seen one do 20,000 kms before he sold the engine, at 380kw @ wheels, it was a 10 second car with a manual gearbox.
ej207 w20c, 625 head studs, big cams
I’ve owned an ej207 ver7, a ver8 and a ver9.
I like the equal length header and twinscroll turbo engines better than the single scroll ver7. Throttle response and driveability is better from my perspective.
you sound like a HONDA GUY !
@@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm I like honda engines, they are amazing. Anybody that wants to put down an ej207 with equal length headers makes that same comment, I take no offense. Besides, I also own a gd wagon with unequal length headers with proper Subaru rumble. I have the best of both worlds.
Bro don't let them know... need them cheap lol
Hahaha, it's good content though!!
Nope, FA 2.4 is.
Watch my video about it! Hehe
No
Lol nice profile pic
that dumb aperture noise makes this video unwatchable for me
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yep and redline 8300rpm