deathangellink HD TVs have input lag with older consoles w/ component cables so a CRT would be better for older games. Plus old games don't look as good on HDTVs, I think they look a lot crisper on CRTs
TheBjscool Turn on gaming mode on newer tvs and no more input lag. Older consoles hooked to modern tvs does look like shit but running emulator with filters makes it looks way better.
Lord Monkus Game mode does not eliminate input lag at all. In only disables excessive post-processing (image enhancing features and the like) to reduce input lag. Even the fastest PC monitors have at least 0.9ms of input lag. You can read/learn more about it at the displaylag database website.
I basically did my best to hook up as many systems that play all sorts of games just to save on room. 1st gen PS3 (Plays PS1-3), Wii U (Wii-WiiU), Sega CDX (Genesis-CD), Saturn, Retron 5 (NES,Genesis,SNES,GBA etc), XBOX 360 (XBOX-360) and then my monster ass PC. Got a tube television upstairs though damn near only just for all my lightgun games since obviously all the new rigs can't do that sorta shit
Cinemassacre My brother has the 2600, that's about all we'eve ever jammed on before. Don't have enough house space for the 5200 naturally since helicopter landing pads disguised as consoles aren't easy to fit into a home.
AlphaOmegaSin It's great to see you outside your own channel Alpha. Why don't you, Mike and James get together again, have a Vs on the Genesis etc...? Or play Nintendo World Championships to see who get's the best time.
Mike here! To those curious, I don't seem to get any noticeable lag playing NES on my 4k TV setup by using 4way RCA splitters.. twitter.com/Mike_Matei/status/586413558260350976
Some HDTVs have lag, some don't. On mine, I use an AV to VGA box and use the VGA port. No lag. I even use switchers to expand the VGA port to take 16 AV systems. For older systems that use RF only, I recommended a commercial-grade demod unit, instead of modifications.
clint c Emulation is not inherently illegal. Emulating games you don't own copies of... That's illegal. But to be fair its not like they are making new copies of Double Dragon cartridges. My setup I have 16 consoles on one TV and they work well. Its all about those 8:1 switches.
Cinemassacre hell yeah! I'm going to have to build a shelf like that too. I put away my nes and snes to make room for my xbone and I already miss them.
@@shedd45 not sure if you still care, but basically heat is bad for electronics. The 360 would just exhaust heat into the N64, which won't be great. It shouldn't melt the plastics or whatever, but it could deform metal shields on the inside.
Mike: I suspect that your Sega Saturn starts with that unnecessary menu screen because your battery's dead. Look into replacing the battery - it's really easy. It's one of the dime battery types that you can pick up at your local convenience store, and replacing it is a piece of cake. Just pop open the back hatch of the Saturn and dig the battery out with your thumbnail.
Bartholamue Ah, thanks! I never can remember that. I just take out the dead battery, bring it to the store, and look for another battery with a matching number. :-P
Cinemassacre you have any Boglins? I don't see people collecting those much. And the fact they are to find with the original boxes which..were actually their cages.
As OCD as I am about wires, that setup would drive me nuts. But I love seeing how other people do it. You never know what ideas you can come up with to improve. I love how you have your controllers stored. I'm going to getting some of those shelves to do the same.
Mike you should get hold of Ben Heckendorn (The Ben Heck Show on TH-cam). I'm sure he could make you a custom switcher with as many HDMI and Co-axial ports as you need. Plus itd be interesting to watch him make and programme something like that.
Cinemassacre It could definitely be a thing. He's always looking for random projects like that to broadcast on his show. He often does unusual and difficult portable conversions of consoles, so massive switchers would be a piece of cake.
Cinemassacre ***** Might be an episode idea and would help with cross channel promotions. But I think it would have to have some new additional functionality to make a full episode. Possibly auto switching, or a connection to a home automation system so you can change it with an ap on the phone.
thats what i thought. my OCD wouldn't let me do it like he's doing. i would probably go even farther to try and put all the Nintendo systems on the same switch and all the Sega ones on the other. or as close to that type of thing as possible. though turning the Turbo Duo sideways wouldn't bother me at all. my OCD is just weird.
You can't turn it sideways! Are you crazy! Because then it wouldn't be facing forwards! Plus, it woild probably sit awkwardly and unbalanced on anything underneath it.
A few tips for your setup, just stuff I would do: 1. The Dreamcast supports VGA out without any mods, if you do have a VGA input on your TV thingy you should use that instead. Quality will be better as well. 2. MOD your Turbo Duo for RCA out in the back (easy mod) and then it will fit the cubicle. 3. I know you probably are aware of this by now but moving to RGB in at least SOME of the consoles you own would do wonders to the quality, contact me if you need some more info on that. 4. You could also get rid of many power adapters if you are willing to try a universal solution. Using so many power adapters is both unhealthy and unaesthetic, contact me if you need some more info on that too. Love your channel guys, thanks for many years of laughs.
Really nice setup, love the TV. The only downside to these AV switchers is that it doesn't appear that you have component or S-video connections - which I feel help out of a lot, especially on new HDTV's. Did you ever look into a really big receiver that would have a large amount of inputs?
Master0fHyrule you asked if it was candy and he said no....If their is no plus sign and then the name in a comment then he is replying to the original comment which is you.
When I worked at an electronics store, people would come in who want set ups like this. I'd have to draw a lot of diagrams. It was cool seeing people get all excited about this kind of stuff.
I just recently ordered myself an 8 channel AV switch box from Amazon for my gaming setup. I have my Atari Flashback, Dreamcast, GameCube, Nintendo 64, PlayStation, PlayStation 2, Wii, and Xbox hooked to it. It's such a simple yet useful device that makes switching between consoles so much easier. It doesn't even have all my consoles hooked to it, actually. My Genesis and Intellivision are both hooked up via coaxial cable to the back of my television. Haha. xD
My recommendation would be to get yourself some switches that you can control via IR remote (instead of push buttons), and get a Logitech Harmony Touch universal remote. That thing is absolutely fantastic. From there, instead of having to individually change each switch and whatnot, you set up various items on the remote, and when you pick it up, the touchscreen greets you with a list of what you have setup. So, let's say you click the NES button. It will swap everything over to whatever settings they need to be on, and with one button press from the comfort of your couch you're ready to go. After that, if you wanted to get really fancy, you could put IR controller power breakers on the lines for each console, always leave the switches in the ON position, and then also turn your consoles on and off using that same universal remote. The remote is already capable of powering on and off most modern consoles with IR capabilities.
RCA TO SCART is a life saver because some of the older consoles won't work properly with recording hardware like the elgato. The adapter solves that problem for the most part
Thanks Mike! I think I did learn a lot from this. I found it very interesting to see what it takes to have so many consoles hooked up and working all on one television. I never had any switch box, but I really wish I had. In college I had a TV in an apartment that sat on a wooden TV cabinet table with two shelves. The lower shelf had my PS3, XB-360, Wii in a horizontal frame (not very common but it makes it look more traditional as opposed to up right) with a Dreamcast sitting on top of it. The upper shelf had my N64 and PS2 huddled closely together. So because I had no switch box, naturally I had to go back and forth plugging one console in the front AV input, and another console plugged in the back AV input. Which made it tricky to keep track of which cables came from which console, and so many wires would get tangled up. So I hope I'll eventually find some kind of switching box for the consoles I have and more consoles along the way that I hope to pick up.
I had the same trouble but I didn't have those switch boxes. I'd just plug in a console I wanna play and leave the rest unplugged. Might sound easy but it's still a pain, cause I always have to move the cords so they end up getting tangled up to each other.
Finally the one time I get to rag on you guys! Mike, please purchase a VGA box for your Dreamcast. It brings out the best quality of the system and it will save you some much needed av ports. I would be willing to bet that your TV has a VGA port on the back since most modern TV's do.
I use a Kinivo 301BN Premium 3 port High speed HDMI switch. One of my 3 HDMI ports died forcing me to look for a switch myself, the nice thing about the Kinivo is that it detects what device you have on, and automatically switches to that channel for you.
Mike do yourself a favor and move up from composite video to at least S-video. I have a few of the same splitters I know your setup can handle it. Ultimately you would want the highest possible video output for each system via mods normally, but most old systems have a s-video cable that can be cheaply found on the internet. I recently moved six of my consoles up to s-video from composite video and found that the difference in video quality is more than worth the cost of a few cables. I know that video quality is important to you as you use your setup to capture videos for reviews. Cheers.
ya very true. im in America and I recently just set up everything with scart/hdmi with the framemeister xrgb mini. it was very expensive. I had my NES, SNES, Genesis, N64, and Dreamcast all modded or set up to be RGB. the picture quality is immaculate (besides N64) haha. I really enjoy playing them looking like this.
I had a very similar setup when I was in my teens. All of my consoles were hooked up via switchboxes with manual buttons. Was so amazing to swap between atari, to n64, back to colecovision, etc.
I know this video is a few months old now, but you can modify the HDMI labels on Samsung TV's by holding the options or select button after changing the input and name all of them to their respective systems. You can also pick standard devices like Blu-Ray or Game mode, but those actually change the video settings.
Jako1987 The only problem with that is if you were't paying attention and you or someone else pulled on it the wrong way the whole shelf could fall over and potentially break thousands of dollars worth of stuff.
Mike, the best way to think about a/v switches like that is that it's literally just a box of wires - You can extend it nearly infinitely, however the firmware on your tv probably only has limited acceptance of automatic switching between inputs. The big difference will be manually switching between inputs on the box as opposed through the tv, but the switches exist everywhere, and aren't entirely difficult to build. box of wires, literally.
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one using this method; I have roughly 12 consoles hooked up to 1 TV through the miracle of daisy chaining. The only thing I ever need to switch out is some of the power cables, since some of them are too big to have connected at the same time. (I'm looking at you NES, SNES and Genesis/CD/32X!)
Yeah im not good at that shit I was hoping he had some kind of trick i've tried everything I can make it look slightly better with an upscaler but it's not much I have my Genesis hooked up with RGB Scart and it looks pretty nice
Well done. I have something like 17 systems hooked up in my game room in a similar way. I achieved 6 HDMI ports when I bought a 7.1 receiver. I love it. Plus I have my retro systems hooked up to two separate CRTs.
fat2slow Even in game mode i have noticed that in games (F-Zero-GX in paticular) there is a slight lag. Where as CRT there is NONE!!! Which is why i prefer a CRT over LCD/Plasma TV''s. when it comes to that.
Vadagar HD TVs always lag when you use AV cables. ALWAYS, every single one of them, no matter if you run game mode or not its because the AV cable is too slow for the HDTV on a CRT this is not a problem thats also why smashbros melee tournaments are played on CRTs only
I got my atari 2600 hooked up to my TV from 2013 and running great. I found it running the Atari to a VCR cleans up the picture really well to display on a modern TV. Not that you need more systems to your new TV.. but something to keep in mind.
I have the Jungle Green N64 too! I recently bought an AV switch for my bedroom so I've got my Wii, GC, N64 and PS2/PS1 hooked up to my old CRT, with my Wii U and Xbox 360 hooked up at my desk to my monitor with my gaming PC and HD capture device. Works pretty well for me, but I don't have any other systems other than a few different PS1/2 models.
Use to do this when I was about 8 or so. I had a VCR, TV, and would route all my systems into my VCR. It helped to record my gameplay also, so that I could show my friends that "Yes, I did do that."
I really enjoyed the video. It seemed kind of conversational and I liked the lack of script that allowed for jumping to different subjects around the room. I've used the gate switches before but never tried linking them.
Hook your Turbo Duo from the back. Meaning keep the plug out of the system, then put the system in the slot you want it in. Then plug it from the back of the game center. I bet that would work. And by the way I have multiple systems hooked up to one TV. Have done it for many years. I have at least 6 or 7 and eventually will have more. I am a big retro game collector, of systems and handhelds and tabletops as well. Thanks for the video it was cool to see your collection and how you do things. Take care man.
This will help me out a lot when I'm hooking my stuff up, a PS4, PS3, Atari Flashback 2 (modded to also play cartridges), Atari 2600, FC 3 Plus (plays NES, Sega Genesis, and Super Nintendo and Super Famicom if modded) and an N64.
Finally! The one time I get to rag on Mike and James! For the live of all that is holy, please bug a VGA box for your Dreamcast. It will get the best video quality out of your Dreamcast for $10. Most modern TV'S have a VGA slot and it w I uld save you a box switch Mike.
Something I do to save a few wires is use the same cables for multiple consoles. Like the SNES, 64 and Gamecube all use the same AV cables. Australian NES and SNES use the exact same power adaptor. PS1 and PS2 use the same AV multi out.
Hey Mike. Budgets were not mentioned but I would suggest getting an AV receiver (Plenty of brands on the market to suit all budgets) and running everything via that, keep using your AV switchers into the receiver and the AV receiver should have at least 5 HDMI inputs well. The HDMI out from the receiver should upscale anything coming in. Then put your HDMI game capture on the output of the AV reiver to your TV (Between the receiver and the TV). That way you can use your HDMI recorder (Elgato or similar) to capture all games and no need to record to DVD's anymore.
Nice setup! I have all the setup that I have including my PS3, PS2 and NES. I used my Mac to play games on any of the emulators including OpenEmu. I have my stereo setup including a receiver, two amplifiers, a cassette deck, a reel-to-reel deck and an 8-track tape deck. I have a few gaming consoles at home.
Mike 1) Isn't the "switcher" that came with your TV just the Samsung input box. It will only with your TV as it merges all wires into one to the TV. If looking you're for a HDMI switch to add then I'm more than happy with the 5 port HDMI auto switches on eBay for about $10. I've got one linking my PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One and Wii U all on one HDMI port. Only downside is the way that Retron 5 handles HDMI. When it's powered it takes control of HDMI. But you could leave that on a port to the TV. 2) Look into the Famicom AV. It's a Japanese version of the Top Loader. Works with everything including Famicom Disk System but is AV and used NES controllers. In fact it comes with dog bone controllers.
One of the best setup tutorials (not really a tutorial, but you know what I mean)! I've been getting into video game collecting and this was something I was worried about, now I don't have to. Thanks Mike!
it's nice to see that all that stuff works (i have plugged in about 7 different consoles on my HDTV and a old TV for the Retro Consoles) but the Video is way over the top. It's not like ppl will not trust you that your consoles works with all that cables^^ The Samsung Box for all the different Cables are awesome, didn't see that before.
Sick signal flow there bro! Personally I find it easier just to have one switcher and then just plug in whichever console i want to play. Works for me cuz i have everything running through a VCR that outputs to my sound system.
A solution for your Turboduo, find a space on the end on the left side and drill a big enough hole in the side of the shelving to fit the cable through.
Thanks Mike, you make me miss my Intellivision. "Tron Deadly Discs" FTW. You probably already know this, but, if you were to purchase an early model 1 Genesis and a power base converter, you could put your Master System in storage. Another benefit is, if you slightly modify the cartridge port, you can play Japanese Mega Drive games. Happy gaming.
There are splitters out there that will do more than 4 consoles. I had one that went up to six and I bet you can find ones that do a few more. A couple of those would definitely help with this setup. Thanks for the video.
Wow that's a lot Mike. The ones I wanted to hook up is NES, SNES, Sega Genesis, N64, GameCube, Xbox, Xbox360, Xbox One, PS2, PS3, PS4, Wii, and Wii U. That's all I wanted to put in, if I have a NES, Sega Genesis, Xbox, Xbox360, Xbox One, PS2, PS3, PS4, and Wii U plus that thing you have to hook up multiple consoles in it. So yeah
I only have two systems but I figured someone would have multiple systems and just TH-cam it! and there you are! awesome video dude! Those systems are priceless!
So much for Japanese innovation! lol Man, that famicon and its cords, not only what Mike mentioned but they put the wire on the side of the controller. Interesting engineering choices...I should see who designed this thing.
This is pretty sick. I was going to try daisy chaining the splitters for my consoles and now that I know it works, I'm much more confident. Awesome and helpful.
Nice set up, Mike! You might want to move your Nintendo 64, having it on top of the 360 blocks the 360's air vents, and you don't want the system to overheat on ya. :)
Hey Mike- I have a monoprice 8x1 hdmi swiftcher. I have all my retro consoles going into hdmi converters, into it. It was pretty cheap, great quality, and no lag! I may upload a vid to show. Thanks for the vid!
dude... thank you so much. i needed this, im so glag it is actually possible to daisy chain those 4 input switchers, not the cheapest thing in the world, but i can finally hook everything up
Totally love being PAL and having better access to SCART/RGB. You can buy SCART switches easily enough, with just a simple mechanical switch. One input into the TV, multi-way SCART switches, and ALL of your consoles figured out. SCART/RCA adapters where necessary, as it is also natively capable of Composite, and s-video and component (with a few electronics in between). As for HDMI.. that's a different TV.
Just glad to see that even a 4K TV can still make classics look great!
playing N64 on a 64 inchs TV
my childhood dream , i think i could cry.
deathangellink The blurryness of N64 games already look bad, in my opinion. can't even imagine how bad it'd look on a huge tv.
deathangellink HD TVs have input lag with older consoles w/ component cables so a CRT would be better for older games. Plus old games don't look as good on HDTVs, I think they look a lot crisper on CRTs
TheBjscool Turn on gaming mode on newer tvs and no more input lag. Older consoles hooked to modern tvs does look like shit but running emulator with filters makes it looks way better.
KashiwaDaisuke Lord Monkus I've never tried "Gaming mode" but I doubt they have no input lag, like Kashiwa said.
Lord Monkus Game mode does not eliminate input lag at all. In only disables excessive post-processing (image enhancing features and the like) to reduce input lag.
Even the fastest PC monitors have at least 0.9ms of input lag.
You can read/learn more about it at the displaylag database website.
That is an amazing set up.
Thanks!
That deleted comment though
Why the fuck did you reply to yourself? Do you not have any friends or something?
Master0fHyrule No problem. By the way, one of your new videos was featured on famous channel EWNetwork. So that's cool.
What are you two guys talking about?
I basically did my best to hook up as many systems that play all sorts of games just to save on room. 1st gen PS3 (Plays PS1-3), Wii U (Wii-WiiU), Sega CDX (Genesis-CD), Saturn, Retron 5 (NES,Genesis,SNES,GBA etc), XBOX 360 (XBOX-360) and then my monster ass PC. Got a tube television upstairs though damn near only just for all my lightgun games since obviously all the new rigs can't do that sorta shit
AlphaOmegaSin you do PC gaming??
AlphaOmegaSin Where are you hooking up your Atari 7800? Huh?? :)-Mike
Cinemassacre My brother has the 2600, that's about all we'eve ever jammed on before. Don't have enough house space for the 5200 naturally since helicopter landing pads disguised as consoles aren't easy to fit into a home.
Th3AfroNinja I have ever since I was a kid
AlphaOmegaSin It's great to see you outside your own channel Alpha.
Why don't you, Mike and James get together again, have a Vs on the Genesis etc...? Or play Nintendo World Championships to see who get's the best time.
Mike here! To those curious, I don't seem to get any noticeable lag playing NES on my 4k TV setup by using 4way RCA splitters..
twitter.com/Mike_Matei/status/586413558260350976
This is really useful
That's a crazy setup tho
Some HDTVs have lag, some don't. On mine, I use an AV to VGA box and use the VGA port. No lag. I even use switchers to expand the VGA port to take 16 AV systems. For older systems that use RF only, I recommended a commercial-grade demod unit, instead of modifications.
Richard woo that would defeat the purpose of the nerd videos besides it is also illegal
clint c Emulation is not inherently illegal. Emulating games you don't own copies of... That's illegal. But to be fair its not like they are making new copies of Double Dragon cartridges.
My setup I have 16 consoles on one TV and they work well. Its all about those 8:1 switches.
Ballsy move putting the n64 on top of the 360's fan vent haha.
Exactly what I was thinking!
Justin Bere Problem solved! twitter.com/Mike_Matei/status/586785042506113024
Cinemassacre hell yeah! I'm going to have to build a shelf like that too. I put away my nes and snes to make room for my xbone and I already miss them.
Just curious, how would that hurt it? I‘m ignorant.
@@shedd45 not sure if you still care, but basically heat is bad for electronics. The 360 would just exhaust heat into the N64, which won't be great.
It shouldn't melt the plastics or whatever, but it could deform metal shields on the inside.
Wow, I can't believe I watched the whole 23 minutes. Very interesting setup you have there. If only, if only, the woodpecker sighed...
Drinking Game: Take a shot when you hear "Ummmm..."
and uh
I just want to mention that I watch this video to get motivated about my room. Love it so much. Thanks Mike!
I love how stoked you are on your collection. You've clearly looked really hard to achieve it all!
Mike: I suspect that your Sega Saturn starts with that unnecessary menu screen because your battery's dead. Look into replacing the battery - it's really easy. It's one of the dime battery types that you can pick up at your local convenience store, and replacing it is a piece of cake. Just pop open the back hatch of the Saturn and dig the battery out with your thumbnail.
Lotus Prince CR2032's to be precise.
Bartholamue Ah, thanks! I never can remember that. I just take out the dead battery, bring it to the store, and look for another battery with a matching number. :-P
Bartholamue or just Button Cells.
Lotus Prince Do those also work for the Dreamcast?
***** Do you mean for VMUs ? I dunno. If they're not the same they're similar.
Mike your organizational skills are commendable. Now if only I can find my phone charger...
This is insane. I totally get it... but it's insane. Hooking up all these devices through all those switches. I loved the video.
Thanks! I hope you also enjoyed all my 1980's toys! =)
-Mike
I was eyeing up that My Pet Monster!
Cinemassacre Those toys where already cool, but you did a great job with painting them!
Cinemassacre you have any Boglins? I don't see people collecting those much. And the fact they are to find with the original boxes which..were actually their cages.
The 3DO is hooked up but the dreamcast isn't?! BLASPHEMY!! Lol
As OCD as I am about wires, that setup would drive me nuts. But I love seeing how other people do it. You never know what ideas you can come up with to improve. I love how you have your controllers stored. I'm going to getting some of those shelves to do the same.
There was less button pushing when the Empire fired the Death Star.
/sweet set-up!
Lol
Mike you should get hold of Ben Heckendorn (The Ben Heck Show on TH-cam). I'm sure he could make you a custom switcher with as many HDMI and Co-axial ports as you need. Plus itd be interesting to watch him make and programme something like that.
Well, I don't know him. But if he's interested in doing such a thing, I could use it. Looking for 8 HDMI ports, 20 RCA ports and 4 coaxials.
-Mike
Cinemassacre It could definitely be a thing. He's always looking for random projects like that to broadcast on his show. He often does unusual and difficult portable conversions of consoles, so massive switchers would be a piece of cake.
Cinemassacre hey man wouldn't the retron 5 relieve you of using the SNES news Sega system
Cinemassacre ***** Might be an episode idea and would help with cross channel promotions. But I think it would have to have some new additional functionality to make a full episode. Possibly auto switching, or a connection to a home automation system so you can change it with an ap on the phone.
Adam Kampa Or have a remote control to change to the different ports from your sofa.
I would have used the two Radio shack switches as AV1 and AV2, then used the other branded one as the switch between them. It would look nicer.
You could also drill a hole in the side for the turbogfx cable. I'd probably do that too.
Tom Odlin yeah, that's a good idea
Tom Odlin or just have the console sideways so the offending cable (and yes cables like those are offensive) is facing forwards.
thats what i thought. my OCD wouldn't let me do it like he's doing. i would probably go even farther to try and put all the Nintendo systems on the same switch and all the Sega ones on the other. or as close to that type of thing as possible.
though turning the Turbo Duo sideways wouldn't bother me at all. my OCD is just weird.
You can't turn it sideways! Are you crazy! Because then it wouldn't be facing forwards! Plus, it woild probably sit awkwardly and unbalanced on anything underneath it.
A few tips for your setup, just stuff I would do:
1. The Dreamcast supports VGA out without any mods, if you do have a VGA input on your TV thingy you should use that instead. Quality will be better as well.
2. MOD your Turbo Duo for RCA out in the back (easy mod) and then it will fit the cubicle.
3. I know you probably are aware of this by now but moving to RGB in at least SOME of the consoles you own would do wonders to the quality, contact me if you need some more info on that.
4. You could also get rid of many power adapters if you are willing to try a universal solution. Using so many power adapters is both unhealthy and unaesthetic, contact me if you need some more info on that too.
Love your channel guys, thanks for many years of laughs.
Daisy chaining is an art.
Really nice setup, love the TV. The only downside to these AV switchers is that it doesn't appear that you have component or S-video connections - which I feel help out of a lot, especially on new HDTV's. Did you ever look into a really big receiver that would have a large amount of inputs?
Is that candy next to the TV? ^_^
1980’s Legend of Zelda Gashapon Bandai mini figures! Looks like I'm the master of Hyrule now! ;)
-Mike
nudl3Zz no to who?
Master0fHyrule you asked if it was candy and he said no....If their is no plus sign and then the name in a comment then he is replying to the original comment which is you.
***** yeah
When I worked at an electronics store, people would come in who want set ups like this. I'd have to draw a lot of diagrams. It was cool seeing people get all excited about this kind of stuff.
I just recently ordered myself an 8 channel AV switch box from Amazon for my gaming setup. I have my Atari Flashback, Dreamcast, GameCube, Nintendo 64, PlayStation, PlayStation 2, Wii, and Xbox hooked to it. It's such a simple yet useful device that makes switching between consoles so much easier. It doesn't even have all my consoles hooked to it, actually. My Genesis and Intellivision are both hooked up via coaxial cable to the back of my television. Haha. xD
Mike! Thanks for the behind the scenes info, it's actually really helpful (and fun to see, haha)
Mike, you really should do a tour video of your game and toy collection sometime.
This is an insane collection! Nice setup man!
My recommendation would be to get yourself some switches that you can control via IR remote (instead of push buttons), and get a Logitech Harmony Touch universal remote. That thing is absolutely fantastic.
From there, instead of having to individually change each switch and whatnot, you set up various items on the remote, and when you pick it up, the touchscreen greets you with a list of what you have setup. So, let's say you click the NES button. It will swap everything over to whatever settings they need to be on, and with one button press from the comfort of your couch you're ready to go.
After that, if you wanted to get really fancy, you could put IR controller power breakers on the lines for each console, always leave the switches in the ON position, and then also turn your consoles on and off using that same universal remote. The remote is already capable of powering on and off most modern consoles with IR capabilities.
I've had that exact same Radioshack RCA switcher for years. They are so incredibly useful and effective for multiple-console setups.
I wonder what his electricity bills look like.
Looks like he keeps them all on at the same time. House might burn down or something.
Wow, insane setup!
How's input lag on the old consoles going through all those splitters, the dvd recorder and the samsung box?
I love that Pac-Man rug! Is that the same one James had in his game-room or do you both own the cool rug? Great setup!
RCA TO SCART is a life saver because some of the older consoles won't work properly with recording hardware like the elgato. The adapter solves that problem for the most part
Thanks Mike! I think I did learn a lot from this. I found it very interesting to see what it takes to have so many consoles hooked up and working all on one television. I never had any switch box, but I really wish I had. In college I had a TV in an apartment that sat on a wooden TV cabinet table with two shelves. The lower shelf had my PS3, XB-360, Wii in a horizontal frame (not very common but it makes it look more traditional as opposed to up right) with a Dreamcast sitting on top of it. The upper shelf had my N64 and PS2 huddled closely together. So because I had no switch box, naturally I had to go back and forth plugging one console in the front AV input, and another console plugged in the back AV input. Which made it tricky to keep track of which cables came from which console, and so many wires would get tangled up. So I hope I'll eventually find some kind of switching box for the consoles I have and more consoles along the way that I hope to pick up.
Thanks for this video, Mike. Greetings from Russia!
Give a big Hello to James Rolfe!
You hacked our election.
I had the same trouble but I didn't have those switch boxes. I'd just plug in a console I wanna play and leave the rest unplugged. Might sound easy but it's still a pain, cause I always have to move the cords so they end up getting tangled up to each other.
Me too I do the same. What can I say patience is a vertue worthy of video games
Its just a shame, everythings connected by A/V cables or RF. Seriously Mike no component cables, RGB, or even S-video? Cmon man!
Finally the one time I get to rag on you guys! Mike, please purchase a VGA box for your Dreamcast. It brings out the best quality of the system and it will save you some much needed av ports. I would be willing to bet that your TV has a VGA port on the back since most modern TV's do.
Mr__Pickle Just noticed 4K TVs don't always have VGA in.
I use a Kinivo 301BN Premium 3 port High speed HDMI switch.
One of my 3 HDMI ports died forcing me to look for a switch myself, the nice thing about the Kinivo is that it detects what device you have on, and automatically switches to that channel for you.
Playing retro consoles on a 4K tv... that's hardcore
Why exactly?
nooo i prefer play my retro system on old crt tv also look better that hdtv or 4k tv
I know... to upscale a 320x240 native res to 4k is too much
Where's Game Sack? They would have a heart attack if they saw all these retro consoles hooked up to a 4K tv via composite video.
Mike do yourself a favor and move up from composite video to at least S-video. I have a few of the same splitters I know your setup can handle it. Ultimately you would want the highest possible video output for each system via mods normally, but most old systems have a s-video cable that can be cheaply found on the internet. I recently moved six of my consoles up to s-video from composite video and found that the difference in video quality is more than worth the cost of a few cables. I know that video quality is important to you as you use your setup to capture videos for reviews. Cheers.
Vhaeroth always use RGB over everything. even S-video doesn't compare to RGB
I agree but S-video is cheep and easy to implement.
true
ya very true. im in America and I recently just set up everything with scart/hdmi with the framemeister xrgb mini. it was very expensive. I had my NES, SNES, Genesis, N64, and Dreamcast all modded or set up to be RGB. the picture quality is immaculate (besides N64) haha. I really enjoy playing them looking like this.
Vhaeroth Most 4K TVs don't have S-Video inputs.
I had a very similar setup when I was in my teens. All of my consoles were hooked up via switchboxes with manual buttons. Was so amazing to swap between atari, to n64, back to colecovision, etc.
I know this video is a few months old now, but you can modify the HDMI labels on Samsung TV's by holding the options or select button after changing the input and name all of them to their respective systems. You can also pick standard devices like Blu-Ray or Game mode, but those actually change the video settings.
why not just turn the Turbo Duo sideways in the cubby?
Looks ugly & i bet it will hang out from the shelf
I would drill a hole to the shelf for the cord. You just have to remember to unplug it before taking it out or in.
Jako1987 yeah that too. having to pull it out to play it, i just simply wouldn't play it because of that.
Jako1987 The only problem with that is if you were't paying attention and you or someone else pulled on it the wrong way the whole shelf could fall over and potentially break thousands of dollars worth of stuff.
Well he could turn it sideways but then he would probably have to take it out to put in HuCARDS (Turbo Chips) if he wants to play one of those games.
10:05 Mike has cool Elvis hair.
electricmastro Is it just me or does it look like it's being rendered on a ps1
YouAre NotSugoi lol i thought about that too, it looks like ps1 hairs indeed
electricmastro That is some cool Elvis hair. Wish I had some.
This is madness!
..NO.. THIS IS.. MIKE's HOUSE!!! *kicks you into pit of death*
No this is Patrick!
***** Nice! +10
Mike, the best way to think about a/v switches like that is that it's literally just a box of wires - You can extend it nearly infinitely, however the firmware on your tv probably only has limited acceptance of automatic switching between inputs. The big difference will be manually switching between inputs on the box as opposed through the tv, but the switches exist everywhere, and aren't entirely difficult to build. box of wires, literally.
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one using this method; I have roughly 12 consoles hooked up to 1 TV through the miracle of daisy chaining. The only thing I ever need to switch out is some of the power cables, since some of them are too big to have connected at the same time. (I'm looking at you NES, SNES and Genesis/CD/32X!)
Couldn't you mod your famicom to increase the controller cable length? I know it's a classic but it wouldn't do any permanent damage
Azurren I doubt Mike needs to increase length.
***** Okay.. I'll admit it, I didn't see that one coming ;)
***** You'd know wouldn't you?
RIP Radioshack.
Mike! How do you make N64 and Snes look good on that TV? Do you just use the Retron 5?
Paul Badman I think you can mod them with S-video or something?
Yeah im not good at that shit I was hoping he had some kind of trick i've tried everything I can make it look slightly better with an upscaler but it's not much
I have my Genesis hooked up with RGB Scart and it looks pretty nice
Paul Badman It could also be that he has "game mode" on, but don't quote me on that.
Naw game mode just improves latency with controllers
Paul Badman And also lag on the TV.
Well done. I have something like 17 systems hooked up in my game room in a similar way. I achieved 6 HDMI ports when I bought a 7.1 receiver. I love it. Plus I have my retro systems hooked up to two separate CRTs.
I hope you never stop making videos, you deserve a much bigger following.
Reading the comments... I never realized just how young and broke most of the audience is.
Maybe because people from all over the world with different realities are watching this?
oxodunk You need to brush up on your reading comprehension. There was a keyword in my sentence... can you find it?
***** Are you implying that I don't also notice when I'm surrounded by rich people?
You haven't seen the Vimeo thing have you?
N37BU6 Just a heads up, your comment comes off very condescending, that's why you're getting flamed.
Being a Pal gamer, those RCA cables make me gringe...
RGB 4 life
is there any input lag?
***** Game mode generally turns off the lag-inducing "image improvement" filters.
Nothing seems to have any lag. Only my Wii U did, but ever since I turned "game mode" on, that's been fine.
-Mike
fat2slow I use a Samsung television too, a much cheaper model though.
No lag.
fat2slow Even in game mode i have noticed that in games (F-Zero-GX in paticular) there is a slight lag. Where as CRT there is NONE!!! Which is why i prefer a CRT over LCD/Plasma TV''s. when it comes to that.
Vadagar HD TVs always lag when you use AV cables. ALWAYS, every single one of them, no matter if you run game mode or not
its because the AV cable is too slow for the HDTV
on a CRT this is not a problem
thats also why smashbros melee tournaments are played on CRTs only
I got my atari 2600 hooked up to my TV from 2013 and running great. I found it running the Atari to a VCR cleans up the picture really well to display on a modern TV. Not that you need more systems to your new TV.. but something to keep in mind.
I actually love these kind of videos. Thanks for the upload, Mike.
Laptop -> TV + Emulators. That'll cut 75% of the wiring problems from all the classic consoles.
where's the fun?
Umm
ArcaneJazz Umm
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I have the Jungle Green N64 too!
I recently bought an AV switch for my bedroom so I've got my Wii, GC, N64 and PS2/PS1 hooked up to my old CRT, with my Wii U and Xbox 360 hooked up at my desk to my monitor with my gaming PC and HD capture device. Works pretty well for me, but I don't have any other systems other than a few different PS1/2 models.
Wow, though unintentional, this is probably the best Radio Shack advertisement I've seen in a long time.
Use to do this when I was about 8 or so. I had a VCR, TV, and would route all my systems into my VCR. It helped to record my gameplay also, so that I could show my friends that "Yes, I did do that."
this is the most work Mike has ever done
I really enjoyed the video. It seemed kind of conversational and I liked the lack of script that allowed for jumping to different subjects around the room. I've used the gate switches before but never tried linking them.
I had so much fun at the end when you showed us how it all works and played the video games... thanks for letting us inside your living room. :)
That is a really nice TV. I cant believe how nice those systems all look being hooked using composite connections. Very cool setup.
im probably the only one who actually likes and enjoys Mikes videos :P
When this came out and I saw it, it gave me the idea for my gaming setup with using switch boxes for all of my retro consoles
Thanks Mike! This is really helpful for someone like me who has 12 consoles and not a very good setup.
When I see videos like this, I feel happy that I don't have a need to own a lot of stuff. It's impressive but ugh! So much stuff!
Hook your Turbo Duo from the back. Meaning keep the plug out of the system, then put the system in the slot you want it in. Then plug it from the back of the game center. I bet that would work. And by the way I have multiple systems hooked up to one TV. Have done it for many years. I have at least 6 or 7 and eventually will have more. I am a big retro game collector, of systems and handhelds and tabletops as well. Thanks for the video it was cool to see your collection and how you do things. Take care man.
This will help me out a lot when I'm hooking my stuff up, a PS4, PS3, Atari Flashback 2 (modded to also play cartridges), Atari 2600, FC 3 Plus (plays NES, Sega Genesis, and Super Nintendo and Super Famicom if modded) and an N64.
Next time my wife gets mad at me for being obsessed with video games, I'm going to force her to watch this. Great setup and organization :)
Finally! The one time I get to rag on Mike and James! For the live of all that is holy, please bug a VGA box for your Dreamcast. It will get the best video quality out of your Dreamcast for $10. Most modern TV'S have a VGA slot and it w I uld save you a box switch Mike.
Something I do to save a few wires is use the same cables for multiple consoles. Like the SNES, 64 and Gamecube all use the same AV cables. Australian NES and SNES use the exact same power adaptor. PS1 and PS2 use the same AV multi out.
Hey Mike.
Budgets were not mentioned but I would suggest getting an AV receiver (Plenty of brands on the market to suit all budgets) and running everything via that, keep using your AV switchers into the receiver and the AV receiver should have at least 5 HDMI inputs well. The HDMI out from the receiver should upscale anything coming in.
Then put your HDMI game capture on the output of the AV reiver to your TV (Between the receiver and the TV). That way you can use your HDMI recorder (Elgato or similar) to capture all games and no need to record to DVD's anymore.
Nice setup! I have all the setup that I have including my PS3, PS2 and NES. I used my Mac to play games on any of the emulators including OpenEmu. I have my stereo setup including a receiver, two amplifiers, a cassette deck, a reel-to-reel deck and an 8-track tape deck. I have a few gaming consoles at home.
Mike
1) Isn't the "switcher" that came with your TV just the Samsung input box. It will only with your TV as it merges all wires into one to the TV.
If looking you're for a HDMI switch to add then I'm more than happy with the 5 port HDMI auto switches on eBay for about $10. I've got one linking my PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One and Wii U all on one HDMI port.
Only downside is the way that Retron 5 handles HDMI. When it's powered it takes control of HDMI. But you could leave that on a port to the TV.
2) Look into the Famicom AV. It's a Japanese version of the Top Loader. Works with everything including Famicom Disk System but is AV and used NES controllers. In fact it comes with dog bone controllers.
One of the best setup tutorials (not really a tutorial, but you know what I mean)! I've been getting into video game collecting and this was something I was worried about, now I don't have to. Thanks Mike!
Everything I wanted as a kid is in that room. Thanks man for that one!
it's nice to see that all that stuff works (i have plugged in about 7 different consoles on my HDTV and a old TV for the Retro Consoles) but the Video is way over the top. It's not like ppl will not trust you that your consoles works with all that cables^^
The Samsung Box for all the different Cables are awesome, didn't see that before.
Sick signal flow there bro! Personally I find it easier just to have one switcher and then just plug in whichever console i want to play. Works for me cuz i have everything running through a VCR that outputs to my sound system.
A solution for your Turboduo, find a space on the end on the left side and drill a big enough hole in the side of the shelving to fit the cable through.
Thanks Mike, you make me miss my Intellivision. "Tron Deadly Discs" FTW.
You probably already know this, but, if you were to purchase an early model 1 Genesis and a power base converter, you could put your Master System in storage. Another benefit is, if you slightly modify the cartridge port, you can play Japanese Mega Drive games. Happy gaming.
There are splitters out there that will do more than 4 consoles. I had one that went up to six and I bet you can find ones that do a few more. A couple of those would definitely help with this setup. Thanks for the video.
I didn't know about the "RetroN 5", that is AMAZING!
You two are the envy of every nerd alive! Living the dream :) Muchos respect!
Wow that's a lot Mike. The ones I wanted to hook up is NES, SNES, Sega Genesis, N64, GameCube, Xbox, Xbox360, Xbox One, PS2, PS3, PS4, Wii, and Wii U. That's all I wanted to put in, if I have a NES, Sega Genesis, Xbox, Xbox360, Xbox One, PS2, PS3, PS4, and Wii U plus that thing you have to hook up multiple consoles in it. So yeah
I only have two systems but I figured someone would have multiple systems and just TH-cam it! and there you are! awesome video dude! Those systems are priceless!
Great Vid Mike, thanks for taking the time to show us ur setup, I have a Pioneer AV receiver which handles all my cable needs. Thanks again.
So much for Japanese innovation! lol Man, that famicon and its cords, not only what Mike mentioned but they put the wire on the side of the controller. Interesting engineering choices...I should see who designed this thing.
This is pretty sick. I was going to try daisy chaining the splitters for my consoles and now that I know it works, I'm much more confident. Awesome and helpful.
This video is awesomely helpful. When I have a bigger place, this will be my reference for hooking up all of my systems. You go, dude!
Nice set up, Mike! You might want to move your Nintendo 64, having it on top of the 360 blocks the 360's air vents, and you don't want the system to overheat on ya. :)
Hey Mike-
I have a monoprice 8x1 hdmi swiftcher. I have all my retro consoles going into hdmi converters, into it.
It was pretty cheap, great quality, and no lag! I may upload a vid to show. Thanks for the vid!
dude... thank you so much. i needed this, im so glag it is actually possible to daisy chain those 4 input switchers, not the cheapest thing in the world, but i can finally hook everything up
Love mikes game room. Love all the old toys aswell. Would love to come and be on a james and Mike Monday
Totally love being PAL and having better access to SCART/RGB. You can buy SCART switches easily enough, with just a simple mechanical switch. One input into the TV, multi-way SCART switches, and ALL of your consoles figured out. SCART/RCA adapters where necessary, as it is also natively capable of Composite, and s-video and component (with a few electronics in between).
As for HDMI.. that's a different TV.