My whole life has been a journey of awakening, staring from when I was 5 years old and I had what I would describe as an expansion of consciousness, it was a pervasive shift that propelled me onto a life of searching for truth, which from that moment, was like a thorn in my side, I knew there was something going on underneath the façade of life which surrounded me. I'm in my early 60's now, not sure exactly how old I am, or who I am or what I am. It's been a long, mysterious, and often difficult path, but now life makes sense as it flows like a river, carrying me effortlessly from one thing to the next. Everything not real has slowly dropped away, sometimes painfully, leaving me floating in truth, not finally, but increasingly. Like being reborn, into a new way of life, learning how to live has to start all over again. There was very little help available here in the West back then. This kind of help and support is very important to help speed humanity along it's journey of spiritual evolution, we need to wake up as a species if we are to survive. Thank you for doing this.
I think laughing myself to abdominal pain from your bowels and sesame street stories did me the most good. (retired nurse with lots of poop experience) Laughter truly is great medicine!! thanks so much guys , love and follow you both !!!!!!!
I really like that Angelo doesn't talk "slowly" with long silences when you ask a question. He doesn't "act spiritually"> Some teachers like Spiro and Eckart (though they probably are authentic) make me feel like they aren't being real. Is that slow silent presence a real part of waking up?
It just depends on the personality of the person. The personalities that "act spiritual" are more marketable and appealing to the masses, so they are the one's you are exposed to. There are all kinds of personalities who are enlightened: peaceful, terse, energetic,ect. Check out Frank yang on youtube, for example and you'll see a very different persona of what your'e used to with spiritual people, but is a person who is undoubtedly awake, and at a high level too, like angelo. Also, If you like angelo's layman personality approach to enlightenment, you can look at the channel sifting to the truth, where the teacher is also pretty normal acting.
I have been around Rupert in non-teaching situations and he talks like that pretty much all the time. OK maybe not long silences but his natural speaking pace is slow. I have been frequently to his teacher who also often speaks a bit slowly and I think it’s authentic. In Rupert’s teacher’s case it’s almost like he is letting the answer come to him and that’s what he shares. Some answers come more quickly than others. Plus , there are some ideas it’s good to let sink in. But I agree that I don’t like to feel hypnotized. They don’t know that that’s what they’re doing sometimes.
I think it has to do with being awakened or FULLY realized. I have seen quite a few masters who pause before they speak. when they receive a question, they don't process the question the same way a egocentric person would (as the master has dissolved there ego/mind). the master operated from the heart where-as most humans operate from the mind.
I’ve been following Zubins C19 coverage and getting a lot for his reasoned nuanced take (pulled me back from the antithesis brink). This is something else. This is a personal growth journey I’ve been on since getting sober over 3 years ago. I’ve had a few psychedelic experiences that I could only describe as pure awareness and beyond self and definition. This conversation speaks my language. I had one very definite moment of clarity listening to it. Great great stuff, I really appreciate hearing you two go back and forth on this issue. Just settling down with Angelo’s book after a pretty rough day. There’s comfort in here. Thank you 🙏
thoughts are simply arising to help us manage life. we are always emerging, and thoughts help us manage uncertainty. the conditioned mind is a wonderful friend to help us navigate the catastrophe of our birth and childhood. growing up means pausing and learning to bring kindness and curiosity to circumstances arising.
The Pandemic and this past year has fully awaken both my husband and myself wide awake. It’s been more of a struggle in my mind than his. We are both Christ followers and religion has jacked up my mind for so many years so working through all this has been such an amazing journey. I ran across a video of yours and everything you were saying resonated with me. I’m enjoying watching these discussions and you are so funny
If we don't own our space we are beholden to time. Talking about going down the rabbit hole. It's like lucid dreaming. As an empath and aspiring artist and writer, who was a singer and dancer, who ignored all this and worked in a cubicle for 13 years. I'm now going through these instances of complete awareness, happening for me, as I connect to it. The flow is now awake again.
Thank you for this talk with Angelo! I’ve been watching the videos on Angelo’s website, (and have ordered the book), and I can’t explain how appreciative I am for all of this.
I DO tell people my internal thoughts. I'm autistic and was always amazed by neurotypical brains. I do tend to overshare though! :) I am hyper sensitive to sensory and the world around me, so its always fascinated me that others had to learn what I was born with.
In many ways advanced stages of realization are similar to what people who are "neurodivergant" describe and experience. The senses specifically become completely engulfing until they are all that's left. Interestingly there is nothing pushing against or trying to manage them so things just flow effortlessly and with magnificent radiant display :) By that time though the practioner is ready for it. This is the point where things get very fun and pretty sci-fi honestly. Up until that point a lot of shadow and emotion work is necessary. Thanks for your comment.
Excellent, I bought the book, I've read many spiritual path, awakening sort of books and this one so far is markedly different but not separate. They all work together and come in ones life at the right time. Thank you for writing the book, thank you for doing this interview.
Just wanted to add a big thumbs up for your interviews with Dr. Angelo DiLullo. I purchased his book after watching the first video, and I am finding these discussions immensely helpful. Thank you both!
This is my favorite episode to date. I'm reading the book and it is transforming my life. I am so very thankful you introduced us to Angelo. Thanks guys!
I am re listening to the little Course in Miracles lessons online. They serve to help practice and build connection to this type of awareness. Thank you for making this and all your videos about reforming the healthcare system more mainstream. Much love to you both.
Thank you so much...loved “it (pure unbounded consciousness) is when the “understanding stops”... I often get caught up in “thinking” 😂🤦♀️ that I can understand... thx for more reminders!❤️
28:45 The experience I am having in the “process” of being Awake is when I fully surrender everything that is false… it is in the letting go of what keeps me from being Awake… then Existing. Cannot put this into words appropriately because they do not exist.
I practice Zen Buddhism and the sutras were always so elusive. After reading this book and hearing now 2 straight episodes, the Heart sutra makes sense in every single line. You're right, our thoughts and emotions are just projections. We have the choice to let it come and pass. I could go on and quote Dogen about knowing the self and simultaneously forgetting the self, but without doing the work yourself these words will confuse. Thank you for exploring this and opening my life!
Also you’re gonna love the episode we did on later stages of realization (beyond kensho). I think it’s the fifth.This is where the heart sutra ultimately points, boundless clarity of radiant empty phenomena self responsive, self releasing, and dependantly co-arising.
One aspect I found beautiful and amazing was reading suttras and writings of the Zen Masters with limited understanding, but after Satori the illumination was very special. My opinion is that when short cuts are provided the practitioner may miss that aspect.
This is a great interview. It will help lots of people. Good job guys. Keep it up 👍 Im very proud of you both, using your public platforms to take on the “important” stuff. After all, thats why we are here, to figure this stuff out so we can grow and evolve ❤️
I don't doubt for a second that this guy is genuine and knows what he's talking about, but there is just no way somebody could get to this experience from this conversation alone. Sam Harris's app is super helpful. It has a nice variety of pointing instructions.
You guys were talking about “awakening going mainstream in 5 to 10 years” right before the unblocked constipation stories, what would that world look like (awakening gone mainstream)? Would it be any different than the world we live in now?
The yoga teacher didn't warn me that l could have an experience, it was woo & l kept it secret, years later l tried to share it cos l realised what happened, now listening to this show, now l know l wasn't crazy☺
Thank you, thank you, thank you, for leaving the funny talk in. No joke, I honestly think this is super important for the whole message of the interview. And also, I had a really good laugh.
I absolutely loved this interview, it was fantastic. I've ordered the book so I can look and reference to it as and when. And I can't wait to see 3 & 4. It was Matt Garrett that recommended watching these interviews
The beliefs talk reminds me of the ever present “both, and” dialectic of dialectical behavioral therapy... so helpful... dumbing it down to.....I am a great person, AND sometimes I screw up
Thanks for the great interview with Angelo. I'm finding his pointing out to be helpful. Regarding the differences in the thought worlds inhabited by different folks, if you aren't aware of Temple Grandin, you might find her of interest: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin She lacks internal auditory thought, and only thinks in images. Her autobiography is "Thinking in pictures" and provides insight into her interior experience, and how that has shaped her work in the realm of improving treatment of livestock. Really an extraordinary individual.
Here's a link where you can grab the book and Angelo's free meditation app 🔥 books.simplyalwaysawake.com/ and here is the ENTIRE Awakening interview series: zdoggmd.com/awakening-explained/
Retrospectively I see meditation as practice that gave me the metacognitive ability. Developing the impersonal watcher that then when turned on itself in inquiry collapsed in on itself
During an experience with unbound consciousness, although the physical subject and object cease, it seems like the individual spirit continues to perceive with its own subject and object, its just that physical language struggles to describe any exclusively spiritual perception.
Yes exactly. Consciousness is the ultimate subject but it can also be objectified otherwise we couldn't speak about it. Consciousness is both subject and object simultaneously. You could also refer to it as awareness knowing itself.
Daniel Ingram on the show!? The "making awakening mainstream" takeover is well underway. ZdoggMD, you're killing it man. Can't wait for more Angelo vids.
Thank you for these great insights! I am enjoying each of these episodes slowly. Probably getting a lot of it wrong too. There’s a lot to digest like during Federico Faggin’s episode which was amazing! I feel like I am finding out the answers to what I had no answer for, for what I have been going thru. A mind twister…
I am so lost and have not a clue as to what this means. I feel like I’m listening to my schizophrenic brother(really no offense), I’m sure it’s me just not getting it, but I will go back and listen to the first video because I’m open to learning. Sorry dog. Love you!
Same. Feel like they keep talking in circles but never getting to the point. I find the topic interesting but they didn't really help me understand it.
It's just like Buddhism, more or less. Read about Buddhism. Like conceptionally, you already know for instance that we are connected to everything by physics, assuming you believe in science. And we know we are a collection of cells that are constantly dying and being replaced. So we basically know that there is no one thing we can point to say that is me because everything is connected and constantly changing, but we do this anyway because of culture and society. That's an illusion according to Buddhism and when you "wake up" you see that truth. You see that you are just a pattern evolving in the universe. You no longer identify with your thoughts or feelings. Likewise, you see they are a process etc. Your identity is a thought pattern, your beliefs are a thought pattern, etc. And so, your mind becomes more and more quiet as you progress because you stop identify with those thoughts as you train focusing on the present through meditation. Hence, you start to live more in the present. You become more at peace and feel happier because you see that life is effortless from a conscious perspective. It just happens, and you rarely have to think unless you are working on a hard problem. You return to your child-like state of wonder. Your mind is open and care free, no longer contracted on thoughts. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you get it now, if you keep listening etc it slowly will make sense, as does most things. If you don't, all is well, too.
I've always wondered about the "randomness" of thoughts and thoughts just appearing... this seems to be the case, but at the same time, our consciousness does have some influence? We can "choose" to follow a certain thought and that will generate more thoughts connected to the initial thought or we can choose to let it go. It even feels like we can somehow decide to think about a certain thing, which I guess doesn't make sense because that would mean we had a thought (decision) before having a thought... 😮🤔 So how much control do we have really, if any?
There is a owners manual on how to live an intentional and joy filled life . It’s called the Bible . Start with proverbs then Ecclesiastics then the New Testament.
Ok… so what is the difference between what he is saying and what Sri Nisargadatta stated when he said to find the source of the “ I am” that awakens each morning? You can find his talks for free online.
I don’t know that it has greater empathy or even creativity but my understanding is that just about all worries dissolve. One still takes action in the world but there is very little fretting. That sounds like a big benefit to me.
How do you know you won't “inquire” your way into an insane asylum? When I was a small child, I asked my step-mother: “if God made everything, where did God come from?” Her answer: “Don't think about that, or you’ll go crazy.” So of course, I had to think about it. But it was a dizzying experience like I was on the precipice of a vortex that I could fall into, and be lost forever in a disoriented, spinning aloneness. So, I would pull my self back from the abyss, back into “reality”.
The whole point is the direct experience which is beyond explanation and understanding. Bernardo's concepts are interesting but that's not what it's about.
@@tonydaniels6352 Not sure what you mean, sounds like they are all saying the same thing IMO. You could also talk to Eckhart Tolle or read/listen to Allan Watts, they all say the same thing in different ways. In fact if you read most religions as metaphor you will find they also say the same thing no?
@@ericmichel3857 it doesn't matter what they say. If you put your hand in the fire you will feel it burn. It is not necessary to understand the physics of fire and heat to know that your hand is burning.
I did find that Dr. Z has spoken with Bernardo already so... He and Donald Hoffman try to take a more scientific approach to an understanding of the nature of reality that many have intuited throughout existence. The fundamental question as I see it is does inanimate matter (or energy patterns if you prefer) generate consciousness or does consciousness create the illusion of matter/spacetime? I think a much stronger argument can be made for the latter.
This is so great. Clearest discussion of this topic I’ve heard. I wonder what he thinks of mantra meditation (Eg TM), even given his caveat about attachment to technique, teacher, or community. And when awakening becomes mainstream….then what, will we cool it on conspiracy theories? 🙏🏼(The relief of mental constipation:)? …Big Bird…🥃😂😂😂 I thought I was his only detractor. Do you know Jacob Collier? I don’t think he thinks about thinking. Pure flow musician.
41:41 nested beliefs, oh ya! A fundamental belief causing all the pain? Yep that is real. That nest belief that I am disgusting is what caused my depression of 13 years.
I mean, even Jesus says we are all in each other. Love others as our”selves” He also spent a LOT of time meditating and transforming. 🤷🏻♀️ AND he said we have to die to live 🤔
Yeah, he was a fully enlightened being and meditated in the desert and had a massive awakening. Ironically, most modern Christians have no recognition or awareness of his State of consciousness and are completely stuck in dogma that Jesus did not describe. He was telling everyone what's within them and imploring them to access it. His quotes are non-duality. Obviously all this stuff gets confused and distorted because it's impossible to conceptualize with the mind. It can only be realized oneself. There's almost endless literature on this stuff now and you'd think humanity would get on board by now!!
@@chrisphippen6685 Absolutely!! Christians have distorted Jesus beyond repair. I am so thankful for these guys who are awakening and just existing and dwelling in the same “place” Jesus did without the labeling and certainty addiction!
I have great admiration and interest in pursuing this, however, please forgive the silly question! I'm struggling in understanding the actual "how" to achieve this experience. Having bought the Awakening book, is my understanding right in that you want to place yourself in a meditative state while directing focus on single object or imagery? Thank you in advance!
Isn't Aphantasia just another thought? Just because you haven't visualized doesn't mean you can't. It's just a thought about a limiting belief that you can't do something and that's how you experience your conditioned reality.
Yup, because of the subject/object nature of thought and identity. Any attempts to explain it are just more subject/object separation of thought. Awareness is like this infinite regress. Because if you try to be aware of the one who is aware or aware of awareness itself, then you are once again a subject _here_ framing an object _there_ that you are calling "awareness". But how do you know what awareness is? How can you look at awareness and say, " _That_ is awareness"?
I have aphantasia. When people said imagine this or that i thought it's a way of saying. I still can't believe people see images, for me it's just black.
Quote @ 59:16 - instantly made me think of Rush. Neil Peart, lyric to Losing It. Interesting interview, reminds me very much of Wayne Dyer. Looking forward to more.
My whole life has been a journey of awakening, staring from when I was 5 years old and I had what I would describe as an expansion of consciousness, it was a pervasive shift that propelled me onto a life of searching for truth, which from that moment, was like a thorn in my side, I knew there was something going on underneath the façade of life which surrounded me. I'm in my early 60's now, not sure exactly how old I am, or who I am or what I am. It's been a long, mysterious, and often difficult path, but now life makes sense as it flows like a river, carrying me effortlessly from one thing to the next. Everything not real has slowly dropped away, sometimes painfully, leaving me floating in truth, not finally, but increasingly. Like being reborn, into a new way of life, learning how to live has to start all over again. There was very little help available here in the West back then. This kind of help and support is very important to help speed humanity along it's journey of spiritual evolution, we need to wake up as a species if we are to survive. Thank you for doing this.
I thoroughly enjoy how seemingly so many people are “awakening”. This is exactly what this world needs at this point in time.
More and more everyday my friend
@@JJBerthume❤
I think laughing myself to abdominal pain from your bowels and sesame street stories did me the most good. (retired nurse with lots of poop experience) Laughter truly is great medicine!! thanks so much guys , love and follow you both !!!!!!!
I really like that Angelo doesn't talk "slowly" with long silences when you ask a question. He doesn't "act spiritually"> Some teachers like Spiro and Eckart (though they probably are authentic) make me feel like they aren't being real. Is that slow silent presence a real part of waking up?
It just depends on the personality of the person. The personalities that "act spiritual" are more marketable and appealing to the masses, so they are the one's you are exposed to. There are all kinds of personalities who are enlightened: peaceful, terse, energetic,ect.
Check out Frank yang on youtube, for example and you'll see a very different persona of what your'e used to with spiritual people, but is a person who is undoubtedly awake, and at a high level too, like angelo.
Also, If you like angelo's layman personality approach to enlightenment, you can look at the channel sifting to the truth, where the teacher is also pretty normal acting.
I have been around Rupert in non-teaching situations and he talks like that pretty much all the time. OK maybe not long silences but his natural speaking pace is slow. I have been frequently to his teacher who also often speaks a bit slowly and I think it’s authentic. In Rupert’s teacher’s case it’s almost like he is letting the answer come to him and that’s what he shares. Some answers come more quickly than others. Plus , there are some ideas it’s good to let sink in. But I agree that I don’t like to feel hypnotized. They don’t know that that’s what they’re doing sometimes.
@@Sam-nl7nz Frank Yang, the enlightened aesthetic god!
@@Sam-nl7nz agreed I also recommend everyone to check out Vishrant
I think it has to do with being awakened or FULLY realized. I have seen quite a few masters who pause before they speak. when they receive a question, they don't process the question the same way a egocentric person would (as the master has dissolved there ego/mind). the master operated from the heart where-as most humans operate from the mind.
I’ve been following Zubins C19 coverage and getting a lot for his reasoned nuanced take (pulled me back from the antithesis brink). This is something else. This is a personal growth journey I’ve been on since getting sober over 3 years ago. I’ve had a few psychedelic experiences that I could only describe as pure awareness and beyond self and definition. This conversation speaks my language. I had one very definite moment of clarity listening to it. Great great stuff, I really appreciate hearing you two go back and forth on this issue. Just settling down with Angelo’s book after a pretty rough day. There’s comfort in here. Thank you 🙏
thoughts are simply arising to help us manage life. we are always emerging, and thoughts help us manage uncertainty. the conditioned mind is a wonderful friend to help us navigate the catastrophe of our birth and childhood. growing up means pausing and learning to bring kindness and curiosity to circumstances arising.
The Pandemic and this past year has fully awaken both my husband and myself wide awake. It’s been more of a struggle in my mind than his. We are both Christ followers and religion has jacked up my mind for so many years so working through all this has been such an amazing journey. I ran across a video of yours and everything you were saying resonated with me. I’m enjoying watching these discussions and you are so funny
Just bought the book. Thanks for this series. Some of my favorite things to “preach” are The Power of Now and The Four Agreements.
I'm reading the book now, led there by your earlier dialogue together. Subtle, profound shifts are happening as a result. Bottomless thanks.
Thank you. These interviews have inspired me so much! Angelo was so natural and authentic! I can't wait for more.
If we don't own our space we are beholden to time. Talking about going down the rabbit hole. It's like lucid dreaming. As an empath and aspiring artist and writer, who was a singer and dancer, who ignored all this and worked in a cubicle for 13 years. I'm now going through these instances of complete awareness, happening for me, as I connect to it. The flow is now awake again.
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Thank you for this talk with Angelo! I’ve been watching the videos on Angelo’s website, (and have ordered the book), and I can’t explain how appreciative I am for all of this.
Welcome!
I DO tell people my internal thoughts. I'm autistic and was always amazed by neurotypical brains. I do tend to overshare though! :) I am hyper sensitive to sensory and the world around me, so its always fascinated me that others had to learn what I was born with.
In many ways advanced stages of realization are similar to what people who are "neurodivergant" describe and experience. The senses specifically become completely engulfing until they are all that's left. Interestingly there is nothing pushing against or trying to manage them so things just flow effortlessly and with magnificent radiant display :) By that time though the practioner is ready for it. This is the point where things get very fun and pretty sci-fi honestly. Up until that point a lot of shadow and emotion work is necessary. Thanks for your comment.
Thank you from the 5%; the world needs to engage these concepts!
Yes it certainly does!! My my how the world would-be so different!! We are in the age of Aquarius the awakening!!
Cheers for peace that surpasses understanding
Excellent, I bought the book, I've read many spiritual path, awakening sort of books and this one so far is markedly different but not separate. They all work together and come in ones life at the right time. Thank you for writing the book, thank you for doing this interview.
Bought the book, no regret. Helpful adjunct to my own journey. Thank you to author and interviewer for making it be.
Just wanted to add a big thumbs up for your interviews with Dr. Angelo DiLullo. I purchased his book after watching the first video, and I am finding these discussions immensely helpful. Thank you both!
"I'm glad you just need the tip!" Excellent delivery 👏
"I'm glad, you just need the tip"
@@Progenitor1979 Hopefully, *you* have more than just the tip.
This is my favorite episode to date. I'm reading the book and it is transforming my life. I am so very thankful you introduced us to Angelo. Thanks guys!
I am re listening to the little Course in Miracles lessons online. They serve to help practice and build connection to this type of awareness. Thank you for making this and all your videos about reforming the healthcare system more mainstream. Much love to you both.
It seems these guys talk a lot from that.
Thank you so much...loved “it (pure unbounded consciousness) is when the “understanding stops”... I often get caught up in “thinking” 😂🤦♀️ that I can understand... thx for more reminders!❤️
but wait you just understood, hmm that's a little contradictory, isn't it?
Stop stop stop. This is so simple and effective. I'm using the thought Stop, this is it, stop.
28:45 The experience I am having in the “process” of being Awake is when I fully surrender everything that is false… it is in the letting go of what keeps me from being Awake… then Existing. Cannot put this into words appropriately because they do not exist.
Thank you guys! This is what I love to hear, and further confirms that I am on the ‘path’. 🙏🏽❤️
path to what exactly?
@@nastasedr Have you not watched the video?
I practice Zen Buddhism and the sutras were always so elusive. After reading this book and hearing now 2 straight episodes, the Heart sutra makes sense in every single line. You're right, our thoughts and emotions are just projections. We have the choice to let it come and pass. I could go on and quote Dogen about knowing the self and simultaneously forgetting the self, but without doing the work yourself these words will confuse. Thank you for exploring this and opening my life!
Beautiful! The heart sutra is potent beyond description indeed! Thanks for your reflections here, I wish you fruition ongoing ❤️
Also you’re gonna love the episode we did on later stages of realization (beyond kensho). I think it’s the fifth.This is where the heart sutra ultimately points, boundless clarity of radiant empty phenomena self responsive, self releasing, and dependantly co-arising.
One aspect I found beautiful and amazing was reading suttras and writings of the Zen Masters with limited understanding, but after Satori the illumination was very special. My opinion is that when short cuts are provided the practitioner may miss that aspect.
There is a sense Reality REQUIRES an on-going inquiry whatever the 'level' of Awakening - Thank You
OH MY GOD the start of this vid is amazing- I love u both, a great duo.
This is a great interview. It will help lots of people. Good job guys. Keep it up 👍
Im very proud of you both, using your public platforms to take on the “important” stuff. After all, thats why we are here, to figure this stuff out so we can grow and evolve ❤️
I don't doubt for a second that this guy is genuine and knows what he's talking about, but there is just no way somebody could get to this experience from this conversation alone. Sam Harris's app is super helpful. It has a nice variety of pointing instructions.
Many people are having this experience with much less help than this conversation.
Everyone is different, and life moves through us all uniquely…
Been waiting for this, thank you!!
I loved the part on constipation, that was so Zen
You guys were talking about “awakening going mainstream in 5 to 10 years” right before the unblocked constipation stories, what would that world look like (awakening gone mainstream)? Would it be any different than the world we live in now?
The yoga teacher didn't warn me that l could have an experience, it was woo & l kept it secret, years later l tried to share it cos l realised what happened, now listening to this show, now l know l wasn't crazy☺
What was it like?
Thank you, thank you, thank you, for leaving the funny talk in. No joke, I honestly think this is super important for the whole message of the interview.
And also, I had a really good laugh.
Love the subject of the Quantum World thanks for this!! 🙆🚵🇬🇧
Thank u Z and Angelo!
I was listening this video, fell asleep for one and a half hour, then WAKE UP! 😮😅
WOW WOW, I am literally waiting for my hard-copy and this interaction was/is an absolute delight! love this convo!
Thanks for the whole series! Didn't know that I wanted it or needed it and yet, here I am.
🙏🙏🙏
I absolutely loved this interview, it was fantastic. I've ordered the book so I can look and reference to it as and when. And I can't wait to see 3 & 4. It was Matt Garrett that recommended watching these interviews
OMG I just laughed out loud during the constipation discussion. Yall are great.
The beliefs talk reminds me of the ever present “both, and” dialectic of dialectical behavioral therapy... so helpful... dumbing it down to.....I am a great person, AND sometimes I screw up
I really appreciate this especially the sidebars about pooping and male mons 😭😭😭
buying the book to read and give away, been on awakening journey for 8 yrs now. Great talk!
Thanks for the great interview with Angelo. I'm finding his pointing out to be helpful. Regarding the differences in the thought worlds inhabited by different folks, if you aren't aware of Temple Grandin, you might find her of interest: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin She lacks internal auditory thought, and only thinks in images. Her autobiography is "Thinking in pictures" and provides insight into her interior experience, and how that has shaped her work in the realm of improving treatment of livestock. Really an extraordinary individual.
Angelo needs to come back to your show soon❤
Ok I need to read through Descartes again. Seems Cogito Ergo Sum was deeper than I gave it credit for being.
Here's a link where you can grab the book and Angelo's free meditation app 🔥 books.simplyalwaysawake.com/ and here is the ENTIRE Awakening interview series: zdoggmd.com/awakening-explained/
Good stuff my friends!
Trash.
Signing up for Locals! I want to a part of the ZDogg family. ☺️
Retrospectively I see meditation as practice that gave me the metacognitive ability. Developing the impersonal watcher that then when turned on itself in inquiry collapsed in on itself
I needed this so much thank you.
Shut the mind up! Love this 💕
Love this thanks
During an experience with unbound consciousness, although the physical subject and object cease, it seems like the individual spirit continues to perceive with its own subject and object, its just that physical language struggles to describe any exclusively spiritual perception.
Yes exactly. Consciousness is the ultimate subject but it can also be objectified otherwise we couldn't speak about it. Consciousness is both subject and object simultaneously. You could also refer to it as awareness knowing itself.
@@tonydaniels6352 Thanks for the input!
Beautifully articulated, thanks, finally someone can say what l could not explain, but did experience, ah so lm not crazy 😃🤣😂
One word. #POWERFUL
Daniel Ingram on the show!? The "making awakening mainstream" takeover is well underway. ZdoggMD, you're killing it man. Can't wait for more Angelo vids.
Really good! And then you started talking about Big Bird! Omg! I had so many nightmares as a child from that creepy bird!
Thank you for these great insights!
I am enjoying each of these episodes slowly. Probably getting a lot of it wrong too.
There’s a lot to digest like during Federico Faggin’s episode which was amazing!
I feel like I am finding out the answers to what I had no answer for, for what I have been going thru. A mind twister…
What a wonderful conversation
Secret handshake is asterixis - I'm dying 🤣
When I close my eyes I see objects in the unbound consciousness a tv screen without being a tv screen if that makes sense
I am so lost and have not a clue as to what this means. I feel like I’m listening to my schizophrenic brother(really no offense), I’m sure it’s me just not getting it, but I will go back and listen to the first video because I’m open to learning. Sorry dog. Love you!
I feel just as confounded with this...
Whatever🤷🗯
You aren't alone. It's word salad. How do we know this dude has found enlightenment? Because he said so? He looks like a whackadoo.
It's painful to identify with your thoughts/emotions. Without thought, who are you? Without thought, how do you know that you are alive? Rest there.
Same. Feel like they keep talking in circles but never getting to the point. I find the topic interesting but they didn't really help me understand it.
It's just like Buddhism, more or less. Read about Buddhism. Like conceptionally, you already know for instance that we are connected to everything by physics, assuming you believe in science. And we know we are a collection of cells that are constantly dying and being replaced. So we basically know that there is no one thing we can point to say that is me because everything is connected and constantly changing, but we do this anyway because of culture and society.
That's an illusion according to Buddhism and when you "wake up" you see that truth. You see that you are just a pattern evolving in the universe. You no longer identify with your thoughts or feelings. Likewise, you see they are a process etc. Your identity is a thought pattern, your beliefs are a thought pattern, etc.
And so, your mind becomes more and more quiet as you progress because you stop identify with those thoughts as you train focusing on the present through meditation. Hence, you start to live more in the present. You become more at peace and feel happier because you see that life is effortless from a conscious perspective. It just happens, and you rarely have to think unless you are working on a hard problem. You return to your child-like state of wonder. Your mind is open and care free, no longer contracted on thoughts.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you get it now, if you keep listening etc it slowly will make sense, as does most things. If you don't, all is well, too.
Excellent 😊
Thank you for another amazing episode; watching it now. :)
Stay well and keep on cranking out this incredible content!
I've always wondered about the "randomness" of thoughts and thoughts just appearing... this seems to be the case, but at the same time, our consciousness does have some influence? We can "choose" to follow a certain thought and that will generate more thoughts connected to the initial thought or we can choose to let it go. It even feels like we can somehow decide to think about a certain thing, which I guess doesn't make sense because that would mean we had a thought (decision) before having a thought... 😮🤔
So how much control do we have really, if any?
Please talk about how to preserve this is children
There is a owners manual on how to live an intentional and joy filled life . It’s called the Bible . Start with proverbs then Ecclesiastics then the New Testament.
Ok… so what is the difference between what he is saying and what Sri Nisargadatta stated when he said to find the source of the “ I am” that awakens each morning? You can find his talks for free online.
So let me get this straight, the benefit to awakening is connectedness, empathy, and heightened creativity? Or is there something else I'm missing?
Seeing reality more closely for what it is, far less delusion, knowing directly "who am I?", and the end of suffering. Like waking from a sleep.
I don’t know that it has greater empathy or even creativity but my understanding is that just about all worries dissolve. One still takes action in the world but there is very little fretting. That sounds like a big benefit to me.
Yes!!!!! I’ve been waiting, Z! 😋 I’m on ch 11 now!
Like flow where you are aware of what you're focusing on but not aware of yourself?
The big bird impression 😂😂😂
How do you know you won't “inquire” your way into an insane asylum? When I was a small child, I asked my step-mother: “if God made everything, where did God come from?”
Her answer:
“Don't think about that, or you’ll go crazy.”
So of course, I had to think about it. But it was a dizzying experience like I was on the precipice of a vortex that I could fall into, and be lost forever in a disoriented, spinning aloneness.
So, I would pull my self back from the abyss, back into “reality”.
People like you and me are too curious for this numbed out world.
Haha, Dr Angelo is talking about aphantasia which was my question when all this began and how I first came to find him via SM. 😅🤯
Great video. Thank you.
Deep!!! Nam Myoho Renge Kyo!!!
It's fucking incredible right? Incredible , like both in the sense of the word and incredible . W t f
Anyone with Crohn's will instantly recognize the ileocecal valve reference.
"Sometimes you just need the tip" ~ Angelo Delulo
Clutch!
You should talk to Bernardo Kastrup, he did his PHD thesis on this same idea and explains it far better IMO.
The whole point is the direct experience which is beyond explanation and understanding. Bernardo's concepts are interesting but that's not what it's about.
@@tonydaniels6352 Not sure what you mean, sounds like they are all saying the same thing IMO. You could also talk to Eckhart Tolle or read/listen to Allan Watts, they all say the same thing in different ways. In fact if you read most religions as metaphor you will find they also say the same thing no?
@@ericmichel3857 it doesn't matter what they say. If you put your hand in the fire you will feel it burn. It is not necessary to understand the physics of fire and heat to know that your hand is burning.
@@tonydaniels6352 Uh okay, I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise. I seem to be missing your point.
I did find that Dr. Z has spoken with Bernardo already so... He and Donald Hoffman try to take a more scientific approach to an understanding of the nature of reality that many have intuited throughout existence. The fundamental question as I see it is does inanimate matter (or energy patterns if you prefer) generate consciousness or does consciousness create the illusion of matter/spacetime? I think a much stronger argument can be made for the latter.
This is so great. Clearest discussion of this topic I’ve heard. I wonder what he thinks of mantra meditation (Eg TM), even given his caveat about attachment to technique, teacher, or community. And when awakening becomes mainstream….then what, will we cool it on conspiracy theories? 🙏🏼(The relief of mental constipation:)?
…Big Bird…🥃😂😂😂 I thought I was his only detractor.
Do you know Jacob Collier? I don’t think he thinks about thinking. Pure flow musician.
41:41 nested beliefs, oh ya! A fundamental belief causing all the pain? Yep that is real. That nest belief that I am disgusting is what caused my depression of 13 years.
The more we talk, the farther away we are from the thing we think we're looking for.
Hey Z! I was about to ask you where was episode #2 ... couldn't find it anywhere! 😉 great timing!
I just realized it's episode #3 that I'm missing! Have you uploaded that one already?
@@TheEvaluna1975 Never, he's cancelled for fucking fauci!
@@korinefan1941 Peace and love to you dear! ❤🙂
I mean, even Jesus says we are all in each other. Love others as our”selves” He also spent a LOT of time meditating and transforming. 🤷🏻♀️ AND he said we have to die to live 🤔
Yeah, he was a fully enlightened being and meditated in the desert and had a massive awakening. Ironically, most modern Christians have no recognition or awareness of his State of consciousness and are completely stuck in dogma that Jesus did not describe. He was telling everyone what's within them and imploring them to access it. His quotes are non-duality.
Obviously all this stuff gets confused and distorted because it's impossible to conceptualize with the mind. It can only be realized oneself. There's almost endless literature on this stuff now and you'd think humanity would get on board by now!!
@@chrisphippen6685 Absolutely!! Christians have distorted Jesus beyond repair. I am so thankful for these guys who are awakening and just existing and dwelling in the same “place” Jesus did without the labeling and certainty addiction!
I have great admiration and interest in pursuing this, however, please forgive the silly question! I'm struggling in understanding the actual "how" to achieve this experience. Having bought the Awakening book, is my understanding right in that you want to place yourself in a meditative state while directing focus on single object or imagery? Thank you in advance!
Hi! The "how to" when it comes to first awakening is laid out in the chapters on inquiry and awakening, the second and third to last chapters. :)
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake Thank you so much!! 😀
Send not for whom the bell tolls.
The bell tolls for thee.
John Donne, No man is an island
Isn't Aphantasia just another thought? Just because you haven't visualized doesn't mean you can't. It's just a thought about a limiting belief that you can't do something and that's how you experience your conditioned reality.
Even if you CAN convey a deep understanding of it it’s still a concept to them
Angelo has the best shirts :)
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1:00:30 to 1:02:35
The “thinker” is also a thought. Isn’t the thinker awareness? So awareness is also a thought? This is so confusing with these people
Yup, because of the subject/object nature of thought and identity. Any attempts to explain it are just more subject/object separation of thought. Awareness is like this infinite regress. Because if you try to be aware of the one who is aware or aware of awareness itself, then you are once again a subject _here_ framing an object _there_ that you are calling "awareness". But how do you know what awareness is? How can you look at awareness and say, " _That_ is awareness"?
53:00 to 55:00 wow
Coolest doc in town!!
the only thing I'm sure of is
how i see things.
how things actually are
i couldn't say.
This is the Good Stuff. Spot on. Thank's guys. X
I mean the consciousness stuff, as well as the laxative recommendations.
Z dog is so lost in his ego
So identified with his identity
Not even Angelo can help him
I have aphantasia. When people said imagine this or that i thought it's a way of saying. I still can't believe people see images, for me it's just black.
Zee dog???
Quote @ 59:16 - instantly made me think of Rush. Neil Peart, lyric to Losing It. Interesting interview, reminds me very much of Wayne Dyer. Looking forward to more.
This is great! But I can't help but think this is legit the story of Neon Genesis Evangelion!! :)