What Happens AFTER Awakening? | Awakening, Explained Ep. 5 (w/Dr. Angelo DiLullo)
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This is episode 5 in our series Awakening, Explained with my guest Dr. Angelo DiLullo. Angelo is a practicing anesthesiologist and author of the book "Awake: It's Your Turn."
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Key Topics:
0:00 Intro: What happens AFTER awakening?
2:37 The honeymoon period after the awakening “event” and the mass of conditioned beliefs and repressed emotions
6:38 How and why we need to address post-awakening fixations and why conceptual thinking fails us
9:08 Surrender vs. Intention in deepening realization, and avoiding fixation on one or the other
11:50 The fixation of dualism dissolving to non-dualism: the experience of space & distance
18:23 The fixation of identity and “self” and non-dual realization, and the paradox of dualistic language
23:31 If there are no un-enlightened people, why do we talk about ending suffering, “Zen Stink”
26:01 The fixation of “agency” and the experience of “No Self Apart”
31:40 The mundane coming alive
34:12 The fixation of the tendency of mind to “frame” reality
The entire Awakening, Explained series with Angelo is here: zdoggmd.com/awakening-explained/
This is the most complete and comprehensive analysis of awakening out there. I am really enjoying it. Thank you!
I direct you to Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha. It's a free PDF.
@@gxlorp Great! Thanks, I've found it. I'll give it a read. Much appreciated!
@@gxlorp 620 pages?!! What gives? I thought there was nothing to do. I thought everything was already done. 😆😉
@@matthewcordova 😂
I was laughing so wholly. This embodying of the paradox of what I've called Surrender + co-creation (Angelo calls it intention) just showed up one day. This sudden knowing. And his explanation of surrender as life surrendering you is so apt. "You" are doing nothing. It is being done through you. And my experience has been that suffering only occurs when you make up stories about what's happening. What an experience. What a ride :)
my favorite thing about this and this serires is it's like listening to my best friends talk about the thing i want to talk about but i don't have to because they're already doing it
For me, the awakening was an intense ecstatic experience. Fluid-like white "world" of Unconditional Love simultaneously existing with the earthly plane. My deepest fear instantaneously became instead the greatest strength of being a channel of Unconditional Love. The aftermath was the exploration of a very "different" soul as reborn into an existing 59 year old guy. I had to figure out how do everything from scratch. The way my new "self" needs to be. Ongoing still.
Zdogg is the best on these videos, such a legend, i crack up at his reactions to some of mind twisty pointings. But he's so tuned in at the same time, you can see him resonating to the pointings! Angelo is a real gem, Ive been around these teachings for years and I've not experienced as strong a transmission as he is able to deliver. He's helping us see with his efforts to share. Thank you, thank you, thank you🙏
Re-integrating into the world after almost 4 years of secluded awakening and healing… should be interesting to see how I show up differently. I can listen to this forever! Love it! Thank you!
I feel like I am having awakening hangover and I don't know who to talk to except posting it here (because my friends and husband will just admit me if they heard this). I read Angelo's book and when I got to the chapter of after awakening blah blah blah you go through this opposing purging where everything turns itself inside out, I thought - no not me I feel blissful why would I ever go back to being small minded. Well I'm going through that right now and it feels like a hurricane, earthquake, volcanic explosion all at once of mind panic. I spent weeks in this blissful presence-watching and now everything is flooding back in: my self identification, reputation, finances, state of the world, relationship blaming, othering. All I can do now to sit here and listen to it. Pretty f'in positive I'll regret posting this too tomorrow when I get hate emails and cancelled for not posting a kumbaya message. But I guess what I'm saying is, this is real shit. This guy knows his stuff and has lived through it. He's not messing around with the warnings and I am shocked to see them happening with me. WTF is all I have to end with.
Painful but normal progression you describe. An excellent teacher-Helen Hamilton- often states about this turbulent phase that after awakening, everything repressed comes up to be seen and loved because the Self does not reject any experience, memory, emotion, etc. Also it’s like we were holding a plastic ball under water so there can be a big release of freed up energy as well. All this I’m going through but the peaceful phases r getting longer 🌞
Watching and reading this a year later, I was touched by your comment. How is it going now?
Had an awakening almost 2 years ago and this has helped me so much and explained wtf has happened these past two years. I’m a BMT nurse and love that you are doing this. Now people I work with can think I’m not crazy.
Going through that process is no joke eh? Nice to hear from you :)
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake thank you for the book, it’s blown me away. “So that’s why that happened?” Starting a book club with a few friends. They are very interested. My saying at work: before enlightenment empty diarrhea hats, after enlightenment empty diarrhea hats.
@@trueschool78 lolol very nice... and true
About the garage. I always find in places like that, when I was a child, a parking garage or larger structure I didn't visit every day became a place of wonder and mystery and I wanted to peek in corners and see over the guard rail and play on the sidewalks. It was part of a larger and integrated experience flowing into and connecting to my part of the whole thing.
As I got older my mind learned to skip segments of reality to "get to what's important". Like on a long familiar commute, I'd barely notice any of the trees or buildings or people. Not just not notice but it would almost not happen at all! Gone! Poof! And as said in the interview, that condition of being tuned out would erase the rest of the evening as well.
Trying to ride that weird awareness bicycle now, where the drive home from work has a connectedness, a wonder to it, a wholeness. Some days it's wow, all this is here? Dang! Before, what's real had been compressed and archived instead of lived. With a small perspective shift, it's all there to be experienced.
Dr Z, I only left my suffering for ONE MINUTE and when I got back it was gone! All I could find were these old David Bowie songs, ringing in my ears.....Ah, suffering, there you are, my old friend!
I was reminded of this when Angelo talked about your garage: Very often when I become present with whatever I’m doing, whether I’m doing something mundane like washing dishes, or I’m in pain or struggling with something, I say to myself “This moment is the ultimate fulfillment of all existence - the ultimate experience of peace, love, joy, and freedom” -- instead of the usual subliminal orientation of “this is just something I have to get through so I can have another experience”, which will also be insufficient. Like when you eat a whole bag of cookies and weren’t present enough to really experience it, enjoy it, or even remember it! But I can always feel some inner resistance - so this is like a koan for me - “How can this be IT?” But then there are these brief glimpses - Wow!
HAHAHAHA! I've been tearing through all these videos. Haven't lost me once, my whole life has been frustration hating what I thought life was & always head first into brick walls. Nearly everything fear! Fear! Fear! I was the a problem.
Trapped living in my head, not fitting in poor me I'm a victim. I've gone through & done everything each video has talked about and further still. I had no idea that this is the thing. I was unable to follow always distracted. Now that I'm aware and awake I hold everything with a open hand, what is to stay will stay, & the garbage that falls is not needed I tried to clench fist everything in my life, that was taking me to my own doom. All the concepts & ideas of this, that is being conviad I understand them all and can follow easily. Here comes the cliche, If i can do & go through this anyone can. Your much stronger than you realize. Yes it hurts deeply, totally worth every bit of it. 🤣😂🤗
Thanks ZDogg and Angelo, you have really been on a role with the diversity of topics you are covering! I just entered nursing school and it is helpful watching your videos to keep inquiring about aspects of my life other than academic/cerebral content absorption. Peace
Angelo and Zubin, my favorite pairodocs
Thanks Dr. Angelo
Magical 🪄✨🪄✨🧙♀️
Yeah bro! ❤
Well done!!
No words.
I guess I woke up about 3 days ago. And now I’m liberated. Although I know my worth and purpose, this is a way to de-escalate stress and anxiety. This has come to me at the PERFECT moment. Thank you for all you do.
You crossed a point of no return. If life gets rockier look up Mastering the Core teachings of the Buddha, and read it
Wow!
Most clear explanation of awakening. Thank you ❤️💕
YEAH BRO! X
Another great one. Bought his book two episodes ago. :)
It's so obvious. It's like I didn't know I was awake. I feel like I've been here forever. It's indescribable. It's frustrating because I've been waiting for bells and whistles and angels descending. But I can't say when it happened. Like everything is perfectly fine even when it doesn't seem to be. Going to stay here until suffering is a thing of the past and liberation is present. Even though there really is no staying because there is no way to be apart. Even illusion has never been real. It's obvious that it is neither real nor unreal. I couldn't understand that before but now it's perfectly obvious. And there's nothing special about it. Unbelievably strange. But totally normal. How wonderful.
Christina Lopes has a lot of great videos for answering questions, especially for those who had spontaneous awakening with no background.
Amazing
❤AWESOME
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Just got the book today…😊
I was driving when I awakened ended up in hospital thinking I was stroking out.i couldn't walk or focus eyes. Then boom no viel. I see thru most things. I can hear lies in dialects in voices. I was once very naive.i had no idea what happened. Itried to share with everyone lol mistakeI plummeted into a dark abyss. Ayahuasca retreat to Peru was gifted to me by a stranger. That shifted me out. Terrifying & beautiful beyond language was able to read others thought after and occasionally still do. I'm not the same person. I can learn thru love rather than suffering.
I finally got around to see this episode. Really great. I know the mind can’t not fathom this but it helps
Kundalini woke in me on Jan 9th. On July 13 after 6 months in silent/ solitude it (I) left my head. My background was in speedball administration, suffice to say I brought A LOT of baggage to this trip. The Awakening with Angelo episodes that came out in that time (1-3 I think) were essential to me in that process.. I look forward to reading your book too. Thank you Angelo. Thank you Zdogg... All Love~
thru this process, with the unconscious I had to unpack, all rules morals and codes of conduct, are gone. no thing left to hold on to. my mantra was delivered to me by a magic mushroom "All Life is Sacred. Do No Harm."
How do you make your speedballs? I used coke with my H for years but recently I discovered meth and it's amazing! I experience consciousness as the only reality and when the seperate self or ego, shows itself(which it does obviously, especially as grandiosity) I completely accept it as a sort of inevitable residue of seperation...anyway keep it up, you're on the right path I'm sure!
Just be the Self. -Ramana Maharshi
❤❤❤surrender and intentionality. ❤️❤️❤️
I'm the " yeah bro!"
I am beyond confused
Me too
I’m a Christian it’s a lot easier ~ but this is interesting - 🙏🏻🧘🏻♀️
Pretty much.... IF I WERE TOO TELL YOU THAT BEFORE THE "BIG BANG" THERE WAS JUST "PURE CONCIOUSNESS" AND THEN EVERYTHING BREAKS DOWN TO THE POINT THAT IM EXPLAINING WHAT I AM TO MYSELF... ........... Think, We're both Concious..... or "PURE CONCIOUSNESS" ..... WE ARE THE SAME CONCIOUSNESS.... we've forgotten that alongside growing up.... it's kinda Sad tbh lollll EVERYTHING IS IN THE MIND.... THERES NO PAST, NO FUTURE, JUST A NOW OF THOUGHTS AND EMOTIONS
It’s intentionally confusing. Google “deepity”, and you’ll find some insight as to why. I get the vibe from Angelo that he’s repeating things he’s heard/read from other gurus, but his lack of self awareness doesn’t allow him to see what he’s doing. He says he has no self, and that he never thinks and is always completely present, so it makes sense that he’d be completely bereft of self awareness. Can’t have self awareness without a self, right? But seriously, the confusing manner of speaking is done to make the listener believe that what the person is saying is just so profound that the listener can’t understand it with their unenlightened mind. And that lack of understanding and needing to understand drives the listener to purchase books and sign up for conferences, in an attempt to gain understanding. These are typically people who are terminally dissatisfied with life, who have intense FOMO, who can’t live in the present, and who spend all of their energy fantasizing about what will happen next.
If you haven’t had the first insight or awakening he’s talking about then this video will be very hard to understand. First shift is when an individual through inquiry or mediation sees through the illusion of a separate self. An analogy that might help: everything in reality is appearing on one screen(consciousness) but we as seeming individuals are just characters appearing temporarily on the screen and we “fall asleep” to that reality and we suffer and we seek because we think we are separate. First shift is when you see through that misunderstanding experientially and not just conceptually. The result is almost like a software upgrade and a large amount of the ambient suffering that a person feels is immediately gone..:this video is really geared towards people who have already had this experience and are fine tuning that understanding further.
Lovvve this!!! Great follow-up to Zero & One-a film about non-duality by Frank McCaughey 🤯🙌👏🥰‼️Also, besides Angelo’s book, I highly recommend “Unknowing” by Frank. They both blend beautifully together. ❤
This one right chere 😅😮
These guys show that awakening is a part of our nature.... Being awake is not be saved...
This does seem to be happening more and more. I had not checked in with Zubin in some time. I’m like “you too, dude!”.
I do hope that Dr DiLullo understands the honor/duty and duty/honor of teach/learning and learn/teaching. Like the paradox space/time and time/space, they are the same and they need discernment to be effective on the dualistic plane of existence before dissolving back into superposition in a higher dimension. Someone cannot learn without teaching just as someone cannot teach without learning.
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More examples please ~
You caught that garage vibe
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I would like to hear Angelo weigh in on our spiritual DNA, the five Buddha families and the five wisdoms. There has to be some understanding that the ‘relational self’ is defined fundamentally, albeit not as a self or any separate entity. Nonetheless, there is a Being that has unique transcendental characteristics that don’t vanish with awakening. These aspects just clarify
LOL ahh what...? The five what?...
After Awakening? Zen koan: "before Enlightenment, chopping wood and carrying water. After enlightenment, chopping wood and carrying water." But don't get duped into believing it's the end of the journey of life. There's more Bliss for the apparent "others". Access "Mahamritunjaya mantra - Sacred Sounds Choir" Listen to it for 5 min per day for at least two weeks. Enjoy the Bliss.
''Yeah, bro!'' is an assurance, in the vernacular, that a resonance is felt.😉
I haven’t watched everything in this playlist yet so maybe it comes up later, but have either of you ever read any Marcus Aurelius/Stoicism? I see a lot of similar concepts in Stoicism, but they’re stated much more plainly/less abstract. I think that might be a good beginning point for people are left confused by the more metaphysical way it’s talked about here.
Hello!
Is it a process that maybe quiets the left hemisphere and so we can see more clearly with the right?
Hi
Yeah Bro👍When you spoke about that which is looking out at the world...this seems to be the place Advaita Vedanta points to but stops there. Am I hearing that even this sense of Being or Self, as I've heard Mooji point to, also goes away? Thank you both. Mind was blown but now is in smithereens!😂
So do you read tarot? How long have you lived and not had an experiential realization? #BehindTheCurve
Doc with the Delta variant, there is report in OZ that even through very short contact (several seconds) outdoor can transmit. So does it mean that even in outdoor we should wear mask now?
Yes, absolutely not!
Zdog with the Butthead at the end,lol😄
Amusement park 🎢🎢🎢🎢🎢
Yeah bro!! 😂
Could it be that awakening is a psychotic break, and follow up experiences are “flashbacks” to within this “break” stage? But we interpret the psychosis within a spiritual or realization framework, rather than a psychological “tripping out”.
Good question. An awakening is quite different from a psychotic episode. Psychotic episodes are characterized by disorganized behavior and speech, paranoia, hallucinations, inability to distinguish thoughts/perceptions from reality, difficulty with ADLs etc. Awakening is deeply peaceful, there are often few if any thoughts. There is a palpable interconnectedness and simplicity to everything. The most important point is that there is a deep sense of okayness that one has not previously experienced and it pervades all of ones experience for a period of time after the initial awakening. Psychosis is generally dysphoric, confusing, scary.
Yep, it's all 🦆🦆. (Which completely resolves itself farther along.)
Read a medical transcription book. But read the glossary parts first
Pretty much.... IF I WERE TOO TELL YOU THAT BEFORE THE "BIG BANG" THERE WAS JUST "PURE CONCIOUSNESS" AND THEN EVERYTHING BREAKS DOWN TO THE POINT THAT IM EXPLAINING WHAT I AM TO MYSELF... ........... Think, We're both Concious..... or "PURE CONCIOUSNESS" ..... WE ARE THE SAME CONCIOUSNESS.... we've forgotten that alongside growing up.... it's kinda Sad tbh lollll EVERYTHING IS IN THE MIND.... THERES NO PAST, NO FUTURE, JUST A NOW OF THOUGHTS AND EMOTIONS
Awareness of Arjuna 😮
😂😊👉🤔hospital 😢
I WONDER I WONDER, WHAT YOU WOULD DO, IF YOU HAD THE POWER TOO DREAM ANY DREAM YOU WANTED TOO DREAM... -Alan Watts
Word salad
@@Tigerhearty Negative. The covid vaccines are A-OK. Me and everyone I know are fine after having them.
@@shellwirtful oooh scary 👻👻
I think it's using the word salad we are caught up identifying with, to point toward achievable experiences beyond the word salad: The awareness that thoughts, words, and sensations are occurring within. The awareness we are.
Awakening is when you finally realize that Jesus is truth, the way and life. However your realization is to late. " My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children". (Hosea 4:6).”
Jesus was a biohacker
Amen 🙏🏻
@@BR00TALPEGGY I am really sorry that your mother dropped you on your head given the most bizarre statement that anyone could possibly say. That is the only explanation for such remark.
Amen. There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death (Proverbs 14:12)
I’m dumbfounded by the belief that God is so selfish, jealous and cruel to anyone that explores what’s in front of them. Hate is created when anyone different or believes something different than you is wrong. What separates this viewpoint of God than what Hitler thought of the Jews? Nazi Germany. Follow me or else. What parent in the world that truly loved their child would even suggest such a thing? Jesus’ teachings are in almost complete opposition to the God of the Old Testament. He accepted everyone and acted through love, not hate and jealousy. There are almost 8 billion people on Earth, and each one has a different perspective and interpretation of life and spirituality. To send 60% of them to hell (those who aren’t Christians, which itself has hundreds of different denominations) is beyond hate, beyond evil and beyond cruel. I myself will take my beliefs in God over those interpretations of God any day.
As a girlie girl 3 years into her awakening journey, ZDoggMD said it best: There’s no way things are, there’s no one to notice that, and I’m in love with a parking lot BEEYATCH.
The closest I came to an awakening was when I realised enlightenment was bullshit
as is everything, incredible non-dual insight
I had an awakening myself too and I suddenly realized this awakening thing is all nonsense.
Sounds like you've gone down the Qanon rabbit hole
🤮......oi vey... Now move into downdog..... Let's do ecstatic dance!