The Sad Story of Kirby In Smash
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- Get Surfshark VPN at surfshark.deals/MOCKROCK - enter promo code MOCKROCK for 83% off and 3 extra months for free! | Kirby. The star of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's story, and by some measures, the star of the Super Smash Bros. series in general. He's been an extremely important character in the world of Smash...unless you get to the tournament scene, where he's nowhere to be found. That wasn't always the case though, and today we take a look at Kirby's long history, comparing his design across the Smash titles as well as the Kirby games themselves, and try to figure out just what went so wrong for our little friend.
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Thanks for watching everybody! It's been rough for our boy over the years 😔 Let me know your experience with Kirby in Smash. Do you agree you'd like to see changes to his design? How close would your changes be to this video's?
Literally so many "bad" characters are only bad because of Sakurai's desire to maintain their current special moves. Kirby's copy ability allows for so many different specials to be added but he still only has inhale, hammer, final cutter and stone. I would've loved to see kirby's side b be like beam attack or something because that would be a good way to 2 frame opponents or edgeguard.
Me, a huge Kirby fan and Kirby main: Ah yes, I was in need of some Dededepression today.
For better or worse, Kirby is probably the most "easy to learn, hard to master" character in Smash. Personally, I think Kirby's present design is fine the way it is, but I'd still like him to reach competitive relevance (even if they aren't his 64 glory days). Besides, who wouldn't want to see Kirby win majors?
something i've constantly thought about ever since i saw it pointed out is the fact that kirby's slow air speed in smash is kind of unfaithful to how he functions in the kirby games. in kirby, jumping and flying are two different states of movement, so he only loses momentum if he decides to use midair jumps. i guess maybe smash just isn't coded to account for this or something, but i would love in the future to see kirby be allowed to keep his ground speed until he decides to float.
I want the protagonist of my favorite series to actually be good in Smash once again. I also want him to actually feel like he does in the games, instead of how he is now where he largely uses generic punches and kicks, with his specials being a lot of his simpler copy abilities, none of which feel as good as in the actual Kirby games. Hammer comes close but I've always loved how snappy the animation is in older Kirby games. Final Cutter is slow as hell in comparison to the Kirby series, something you mentioned thankfully, when in actual Kirby its a Combo ender for one of the historical most versatile copy abilities, Cutter, which has a burst movement option dash attack, very maneuverable projectiles that can be charged, and the previously mentioned combo. Stone has little impact due to a lack of minor screen shake like it often has in Kirby. And his inhale is lacking, mainly due to the endlag you mentioned. It Kirby its actually pretty spammable. Sure you can't have it be like that in a fighting game without causing some troubles, but the fact that it's slower than in a lot of high risk high reward options says a lot considering in Kirby games its designed to be easy to use without punishment since its at the core of the series beginner friendly design.
Look how they massacred my boy
it still baffles me that almost every single person that plays smash first played as kirby
I've been a Kirby main for 10 years and 4 games and, lemme tell you, a buff (or any attention from the devs) would be welcome
Its funny how perfectly this video surmises my experience. I think its probably the case with many people, but hearing someone else explain how you’d just hover above your opponent and spam stone is… great. But then, as you get into… y’know… being good at the game, he completely loses everything that made him enjoyable originally and becomes a chore to play. I really wish we could have something more similar to Kirby in smash 64 again, but toned down a bit. We don’t need up tilt being 5 miles long.
I think something you failed to mention was just how much the engine benefits Kirby in smash 64. Having slower movement is less important in a slower paced game. Like even in PM where they buffed the hell out of Kirby he's still considered the worst character in the game.
Don't lie, we were all a kirby main once
90% of Kirby's moveset is just kicks with no range
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King Dedede's inhale is better than Kirby's, and it makes me a little sad.
I love the fact that the invincibility move (rock), is so unsafe in majority of situations, which especially sucks when compared to the Kirby games where I could honestly use rock as a pause button if I wanted to
Kirby is my main and I definitely think you nailed this video, making his up b out of shield actually good would be such a nice change. I will say that I do think stone is decent as is though, it’s primarily good off stage against certain recoveries like Mythra side b and it can act as a sort of counter. A faster start up would be nice, but I wouldn’t call it a necessarily bad move.
I am a Kirby main, and, when playing casually, Kirby is SO much fun. I actually started to main him in Melee because I thought he looked cute. But from a competitive perspective there are definitely a bunch of thing that could improve
Another issue I have with Inhale is that they gave to Dedede what they very much should have with Kirby. Being able to throw back an attack is quintessential Kirby! It was literally all he COULD do back in his first game, and they never let him do so. It would be so nice to let him turn a projectile into a star for attacks like in the games, and larger attacks would become those big piercing stars… but unfortunately, they’re probably never gonna let that happen…
most of the big ideas i've had for making kirby feel better in smash concern his inhale. in all the recent games (return to dream land onward) the inhale feels REALLY powerful and satisfying in terms of range and speed. one of my favorite things is that if you use it on an enemy up close, it's practically instantaneous. and there's no real lag on swallowing or spitting out enemies, so you can be really quick with it too. there's also the fact that he can swallow an indefinite amount of projectiles at once, and spit them all out, while in smash you can really only inhale one at a time and most of them can't even be thrown back at enemies. i think that really is a shame!!