Bit unexpected but here's my new car! Just watch the video for the backstory. Here's some VTEC for ya: • 2017 Honda Accord Coup... Check out the GFY Media Group: goo.gl/IH03bN
I have a car question that if anyone that knows about cars could possibly answer please. I bought a 10,000k fully loaded, leather, V6, sunroof ect Honda Accord. 2013. It is a manual. I heard resale are great back on Honda's and it is a manual. Kelly blue book is pricing it around 12k...??? Did I pay to much? Is kbb wrong? Bought from Carmax so I have 30 days to return no questions asked....did I get ripped off? Anyway thanks for any input
Awesome, love the color and wheels look great on it too, lots of luck with it. My friend has the same car as yours only difference is he got his in a bright blue color.
I have a 2016 EX-L V6 6MT. It's a great car. Personally, I would have just kept looking for a manual. They are rare, but they make a huge difference in the fun factor of this car. I have the HFP kit on mine which improves the handling and overall look. Some people don't care for the HFP kit as it is expensive, but I negotiated it into the purchase price of my car at the dealer. I bought a 2016 last summer that had only 2400 miles on it. Perfect condition.
Eh, I'm almost 6 months in and still don't mind the automatic. Still fun as hell to drive, at least to me. Being in the 9G community I've also heard about a lot of tranny issues with the 6-6 so I didn't feel too bad about getting an automatic. As I explained briefly in the video, I wasn't really supposed to end up with this car in the first place, but the 6-6 I wanted to buy was clapped out and there were literally no other ones within 200 miles of my house. The long version of what happened is this: I looked for manuals for several days and found one (and only one), a white 2015 6-6. Went to go look at it. It wasn't detailed, was missing the wheel locks, and overall looked a bit rough but I was desperate and still wanted to buy it anyway (they also were selling it for a good price). That day, the dealership put me in a loaner car, took my old car in on trade and my $2400 down payment. Said the car would be ready to pick up in a few days so I went home satisfied. A few days went by and I got no update on the status of the car. I called in and they said that the car now had to be made CPO and wouldn't say why, and was demanding an additional $3K up front. I later found out it was because they yoyo financed me and were having trouble getting me approved for the relatively high loan amount. I have decent credit so I found this weird (I later learned about loan-to-value ratios). After a couple more days of back and forth, I went back to the dealer in person and asked what the fuck was going on. Not getting a straight answer, and becoming fed up with the entire situation, I looked on their lot and saw a few brand new 17 V6 automatic Coupes left and said I would take one of those instead. That's how I ended up with the car I have now. About 5 minutes after I signed the papers for this car, they told me the previous owner of the white one traded it in because the transmission was grinding and he was having issues with the clutch, and they were going to auction the car before I walked in asking to see it. Moral of the story? Some dealerships are shady as fuck. They had me by the balls though so that's why I still bought a car from them. The salesman that put me through all of that shit actually called me the next day to apologize and sent me a postcard with another apology a month later. I pretty much ignored both bc fuck him. I actually just had the HFP suspension installed last week. Car looks and handles noticeably better now. I'm not really a fan of the body kit tbh.
I was about to comment about getting a cold air intake but you literally said it right as soon as i started typing. Beautiful car, lots of power and reliability out of that v6. Shame they're killing it off. Wish they made the AWD v6 Crosstour with a 6 speed, that'd be a dream car for me lol. Anyways hope you enjoy it, sure you'll probably wind up missing the 6 speed, but Honda autos are really nice and they shift pretty damn smooth and quick.
Yeah I'm really sad about them killing it, but hey I got the last one I could lol. And now I can drive it for a couple decades. I do miss the manual a little but yeah this automatic is very good.
The 2013 Accord was a nice car, but this new one sounds like a great upgrade! Wish they sold this model gen here in the UK, I don't think they even sell the Accord over here any more.
Yeah they're really hard to find lol. The one I mentioned I was gonna buy in the video was the only one within a 200 mile radius from my house, hence why I gave up and got the auto. I've been very happy with it thus far, car has 20,000 miles on it now.
I notice that V6 accord coupes are a little bit louder than the V6 sedan, and both the sedan and coupe have a 5k rpm rev limiter but the rev limiter on the coupe sounds different 🤔
The only coupe that's different from the sedan powertrain wise is the 6 speed manual V6. That version of the J35 doesn't have VCM and VTEC engagement is slightly lower (4400 vs 5150rpm on the auto). The AT V6 coupe and sedan are identical
@@accordinglyryan yeah I did know that the coupe 6 speed manual don’t have VCM and the starter sounds different but I didn’t know of VTEC at 4400k rpms, but you have a 2017 accord coupe V6 automatic and I have a 2017 accord V6 sedan automatic and they sounds a little bit different, your exhaust seems to be louder and when it hits the rev limiter at 5k rpms mine sounds a little bit different
@@samwh4775 I think you're imagining things dude lol. I do have a Borla exhaust + 2 step setup with Ktuner now, but in this video the car was bone stock
@@accordinglyryan yeah I know, that’s why I’m saying that my car sounds different comparing stock to stock, mine is quieter, I saw many videos of accord V6 coupes stock and they all sound better and a little bit deeper, also I’m kinda mad that the coupe V6 have the paddle shifters and mine doesn’t 😡😂
So how does output on this compare to the 8th Generation V6 models? My Malibu may be a much more plain, dated vehicle compared to the Accord, but I beat out my bud's 8th Gen by a noticeable margin on a green-light drag race. I kinda wanna see how mine would perform against yours! Straight-line performance is solid on my Malibu, but it can't corner or stop at all. Congrats on the new bae!
2018 only wins off line cause of traction on a highway roll the v6 wins all day which is why i bought the 2017 touring ahead of a 2018-2020 2.0t plus a v6 just sounds better a 4 cylinder will also sound like a fart can.
Lol I had my 2013 Accord Coupe for a year and a half, and my Eclipse for 2 and a half years. Side hoes (like my 90 and 98 Accords) don't count :P Planning on having the 2017 for a loooong time, it's basically my dream car and I can't afford to trade it again anyway Of course, still my daily driver and will be for a while. Sold the S8 to Chris last week
Go on cars.com and count how many 16-17 6-6s are for sale right now. Then look at how many aren't black. I can guarantee you it is less than 10 country wide.
@@Vladimir_Lolinco One was replaced in 2019, the other in 2020. I transferred them to my new 9th gen so between the two cars probably 60,000 miles or so
Hey what do u think of the auto transmission on this car? I'm currently in the market for a v6 coupe and I'm getting kinda sick of driving manual now cause I mainly drive in the city
The car has 18,000 miles on it now and I'm quite alright with the transmission. I don't really miss the manual all that much, car is still plenty of fun. The only small complaint I have with it is I wish the paddle shifters would respond faster; there's this sort of half-second latency between flicking the paddle and the car actually shifting gears. Other than that though, I have no qualms. It's a pretty good automatic transmission, and it has what Honda calls Grade Logic Control, so 90% of the time it isn't gear-hunting while going up and down hills and such. Wouldn't have any problem recommending it.
@@accordinglyryan Thanks for the info bro. I think I might have to test drive both just in case, but honestly I'm leaning more towards the auto. Love your videos btw
Heh, I've got Ktuner but haven't done much with it yet cause all I have is the Borla axleback and a Vibrant resonator. All I did is improved shifting level 1 and VCM disable. Haven't done CAI cause I don't wanna hydrolock my shit and there are no legal ones for this model year yet, so I just got an aFe filter instead (not the same I know). It's plenty fast for me at this time lol
Ryan Gehret I dont know why people say Hydro lock with a CAI Because it is virtually impossible!! I SAY AGAIN IMPOSSIBLE.. Unless you put your shit in a pond or river.. Iv used them on my 13 accord coupe v6, 15 Accord coupe v6, Pontiac Gtp, Caddy sts, Avalanche, Tahoe, and my buddy's performance shop has them on every single mustang they own which one is worth north of 180,000$.. There is not a rain storm in all of mankind to hydro lock.. I have been in the car and performance bizz for 25 years and have never seen a single problem with a CAI..
Ryan Gehret Lol I'm just telling you.. We also have one in a Hellcat.. I'm from central NY, no body gets more rain.. You would need like 6 gallons of water at once to hydro lock.. Trust me
I have a car question that if anyone that knows about cars could possibly answer please. I bought a 10,000k fully loaded, leather, V6, sunroof ect Honda Accord. 2013. It is a manual. I heard resale are great back on Honda's and it is a manual. Kelly blue book is pricing it around 12k...??? Did I pay to much? Is kbb wrong? Bought from Carmax so I have 30 days to return no questions asked....did I get ripped off? Anyway thanks for any input
Well, the original dealer that PDI'd the car (In September 2016) wasn't the one that I bought it from, and was about 210 miles away...so I figure once they purchased the car from the original dealer they just drove it back. We do that at my dealership all the time.
Nowhere lol. They're not available anywhere anymore as far as I can tell. I smacked a curb a couple years ago and tried to find a replacement with no luck. But they are Axis Sport XQ wheels
@@accordinglyryan damn, those rims fit perfectly on yur accord i was looking to purchase it for my accord, do you know of any rims that resemble the original or no!?
I'd rather not say exactly but I got $2,000 off MSRP on the car itself. Considerably more with my rolled over negative equity and interest lol. I did get a good rate through Honda though (1.9%)
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RIP Accord Coupe :( I have a 08 Accord coupe and I wish Honda didn’t kill the 2 door Accord from their lineup
It’s a really nice car gotta admit. I really don’t have anything else to say
GREAT CHOICE! can't say that enough. Those v6 accords not only look nice but are reliable af
Yep! Exactly why I wanted this car. It's sporty but as reliable as a Honda can be. Best of both worlds.
Yep. Still wish that the black one you had was a V6, but honestly, i like this one better. It's better equipped. Now the mods start :) lol.
Yep same here lol
I have a car question that if anyone that knows about cars could possibly answer please. I bought a 10,000k fully loaded, leather, V6, sunroof ect Honda Accord. 2013. It is a manual. I heard resale are great back on Honda's and it is a manual. Kelly blue book is pricing it around 12k...??? Did I pay to much? Is kbb wrong? Bought from Carmax so I have 30 days to return no questions asked....did I get ripped off? Anyway thanks for any input
So glad you got this and not the 10th gen! You'll love the V6
I got the 2018 accord sport 2.0t last month. Awesome car but I gotta admit you can never go wrong with the V6 2017.
Awesome, love the color and wheels look great on it too, lots of luck with it. My friend has the same car as yours only difference is he got his in a bright blue color.
Thanks! I love that blue
Yeah, it does look great in that blue too, his is a manual though.
I have a 2016 EX-L V6 6MT. It's a great car. Personally, I would have just kept looking for a manual. They are rare, but they make a huge difference in the fun factor of this car. I have the HFP kit on mine which improves the handling and overall look. Some people don't care for the HFP kit as it is expensive, but I negotiated it into the purchase price of my car at the dealer. I bought a 2016 last summer that had only 2400 miles on it. Perfect condition.
Eh, I'm almost 6 months in and still don't mind the automatic. Still fun as hell to drive, at least to me. Being in the 9G community I've also heard about a lot of tranny issues with the 6-6 so I didn't feel too bad about getting an automatic. As I explained briefly in the video, I wasn't really supposed to end up with this car in the first place, but the 6-6 I wanted to buy was clapped out and there were literally no other ones within 200 miles of my house.
The long version of what happened is this:
I looked for manuals for several days and found one (and only one), a white 2015 6-6. Went to go look at it. It wasn't detailed, was missing the wheel locks, and overall looked a bit rough but I was desperate and still wanted to buy it anyway (they also were selling it for a good price). That day, the dealership put me in a loaner car, took my old car in on trade and my $2400 down payment. Said the car would be ready to pick up in a few days so I went home satisfied.
A few days went by and I got no update on the status of the car. I called in and they said that the car now had to be made CPO and wouldn't say why, and was demanding an additional $3K up front. I later found out it was because they yoyo financed me and were having trouble getting me approved for the relatively high loan amount. I have decent credit so I found this weird (I later learned about loan-to-value ratios). After a couple more days of back and forth, I went back to the dealer in person and asked what the fuck was going on. Not getting a straight answer, and becoming fed up with the entire situation, I looked on their lot and saw a few brand new 17 V6 automatic Coupes left and said I would take one of those instead. That's how I ended up with the car I have now. About 5 minutes after I signed the papers for this car, they told me the previous owner of the white one traded it in because the transmission was grinding and he was having issues with the clutch, and they were going to auction the car before I walked in asking to see it. Moral of the story? Some dealerships are shady as fuck. They had me by the balls though so that's why I still bought a car from them.
The salesman that put me through all of that shit actually called me the next day to apologize and sent me a postcard with another apology a month later. I pretty much ignored both bc fuck him.
I actually just had the HFP suspension installed last week. Car looks and handles noticeably better now. I'm not really a fan of the body kit tbh.
sick wheels dude, suits the car really nicely. Honda accord coupe is a great single guy car.
It's also a great married guy car!
WEW, dats a beauty af car! I really like that how it looks :3
Thanks!
Narukiko weeb.
I was about to comment about getting a cold air intake but you literally said it right as soon as i started typing. Beautiful car, lots of power and reliability out of that v6. Shame they're killing it off. Wish they made the AWD v6 Crosstour with a 6 speed, that'd be a dream car for me lol. Anyways hope you enjoy it, sure you'll probably wind up missing the 6 speed, but Honda autos are really nice and they shift pretty damn smooth and quick.
Yeah I'm really sad about them killing it, but hey I got the last one I could lol. And now I can drive it for a couple decades. I do miss the manual a little but yeah this automatic is very good.
Nice car man!
Really nice and loaded model, I like it.
Thanks! Yeah this is one slot below the top end Touring, and is only missing a couple things, most of which I don't care about.
I have a 15 accord coupe v6.. I fucking love it.. sweet car dude
How is it holding up?
Yoooo!!On my birthday! May she serve you perfectly!
Happy birthday!
Ryan Gehret Thanks mate!
Early! Anyway nice video. How is your mom doing?
Not so great but she's hanging in there. I gotta go visit her again soon
Ryan Gehret Cool man I hope she’s doing well enough currently wish you the best man thanks for entertaining me since 2013
Appreciate it man, and you're welcome!
Got the same car ... But sedan version ... I Put a K&N Air filter and Borla Axle back Exhaust .... It will be satisfying sound.
Planning on it! Had the Borla on my last car and loved it. Just gotta save up some cash first
Axle backs dont add much Hp compared to a cat back
only sound changed or your car going faster?
The 2013 Accord was a nice car, but this new one sounds like a great upgrade! Wish they sold this model gen here in the UK, I don't think they even sell the Accord over here any more.
Agreed. Tbh the 2013 wasn't the Accord Coupe I really wanted to begin with. Yeah they haven't for a while, kinda a shame.
Yeah it is a shame they stopped selling the Accord here, I prefer them to the Civics. Enjoy the new car though.
Nice new car! Gotta get the intake for that thing, it makes it sound like a beast and also on my car it increased my mpg!
Unfortunately there are no intakes that are legal in CA for this car yet
Got the 2016 V6 coupe Orchid white pearl. She moves proper.
Ok ok, nice car. BUT DOES IT HIT VTEC?!??!!?
Oh yes it does, I have a 0-60 video I just uploaded too. It's FAST lol
Ryan Gehret wow, that's quick. congrats man.😂
Thanks!
thats a nice upgrade
I love the headlights
I have a 2016 same setup. Great car and sleeper.
Nice! Tried to buy a couple of V6 manuals but they sold too quick. I'm hearing good things about the 6sp auto.
Yeah they're really hard to find lol. The one I mentioned I was gonna buy in the video was the only one within a 200 mile radius from my house, hence why I gave up and got the auto. I've been very happy with it thus far, car has 20,000 miles on it now.
Nice whip dude...
Thanks man
Nice car, enjoy!
Sweet Sentra mah dude.
Jk. Awesome ride!
I notice that V6 accord coupes are a little bit louder than the V6 sedan, and both the sedan and coupe have a 5k rpm rev limiter but the rev limiter on the coupe sounds different 🤔
The only coupe that's different from the sedan powertrain wise is the 6 speed manual V6. That version of the J35 doesn't have VCM and VTEC engagement is slightly lower (4400 vs 5150rpm on the auto). The AT V6 coupe and sedan are identical
@@accordinglyryan yeah I did know that the coupe 6 speed manual don’t have VCM and the starter sounds different but I didn’t know of VTEC at 4400k rpms, but you have a 2017 accord coupe V6 automatic and I have a 2017 accord V6 sedan automatic and they sounds a little bit different, your exhaust seems to be louder and when it hits the rev limiter at 5k rpms mine sounds a little bit different
@@samwh4775 I think you're imagining things dude lol. I do have a Borla exhaust + 2 step setup with Ktuner now, but in this video the car was bone stock
@@accordinglyryan yeah I know, that’s why I’m saying that my car sounds different comparing stock to stock, mine is quieter, I saw many videos of accord V6 coupes stock and they all sound better and a little bit deeper, also I’m kinda mad that the coupe V6 have the paddle shifters and mine doesn’t 😡😂
@@samwh4775 Idk man I'm not aware of any actual differences other than what I just said
So how does output on this compare to the 8th Generation V6 models? My Malibu may be a much more plain, dated vehicle compared to the Accord, but I beat out my bud's 8th Gen by a noticeable margin on a green-light drag race.
I kinda wanna see how mine would perform against yours! Straight-line performance is solid on my Malibu, but it can't corner or stop at all.
Congrats on the new bae!
8th gens are pretty slow, they make about 30 less horses and have taller gearing as far as I know. Lol I'd totally say let's race if we were closer!
Fuck i really wish i can get a car like this maybe in two years haha but congrats she a beaut!!
Didn't realize your 2013 was a 4! Big difference eh? No MT in this new one though huh?
Do you think the 2018 camery looks ugly?
I'm on the fence about it...one one hand it's a bit aggressive for me but on the other hand it looks kinda badass.
It's a nice car...I just traded mine for a 2018 accord sport
The 2.0? Which one is quicker
omar Nawabi the torque is higher on the 2.0T in the long term 2017 is faster but right off the start and for a decent length 2018 wins
2018 only wins off line cause of traction on a highway roll the v6 wins all day which is why i bought the 2017 touring ahead of a 2018-2020 2.0t plus a v6 just sounds better a 4 cylinder will also sound like a fart can.
you are going through cars like you do phones now. Going through cars every few months lol. Do u still have the iphone 8 or is that sold?
Lol I had my 2013 Accord Coupe for a year and a half, and my Eclipse for 2 and a half years. Side hoes (like my 90 and 98 Accords) don't count :P Planning on having the 2017 for a loooong time, it's basically my dream car and I can't afford to trade it again anyway
Of course, still my daily driver and will be for a while. Sold the S8 to Chris last week
She's pretty
It's beautiful! I just got some new wheels for my 05 Civic.
Thanks! Nice man
what LED s temperature did u pick when u changed them? 4000k?
6000K
I love my 07 coupe to death
Ok now is it possible do to a touring headlight conversion also are you going to put lowering springs on because that would be cool
It is but they're super expensive. Ehh if anything I'd go coils but honestly I think it looks fine stock, plus the roads near my house are shit.
Also why did you get rid of your other car or did you like that v6 a lot
Hello, my motherboard and GPU came with cds. Should I install the drivers on the cds? If not, how am I supposed to know what drivers to get on my pc?
You don't mind me asking, what did you pay? I bought the same car (in black) September 2018 for 25.5. Was sitting on the dealer lot for a year.
$29,400, bout $2K off original MSRP. This one sat for a year and a half.
I wish they kept the old grill designs, not a big fan of the silver bar
I felt the same but honestly now I prefer the new grill. The chrome is blacked out and just looks better in my opinion
Hey man, do you think it's possible to install the 2016 headlights, bumper and taillights on the 2013?
so . u traded in the 2013?
Shoulda waited for a manual 6-6, work on your patience, you overpaid for an automatic, the 6-6 are faster.
Go on cars.com and count how many 16-17 6-6s are for sale right now. Then look at how many aren't black. I can guarantee you it is less than 10 country wide.
I just purchased a used 2017 Honda Accord Coupe Touring - do you know if there's a permanent fix on the DRL issue with the 2016-2017 Accord?
The replacement lights I got at the dealership have yet to fail again, take that how you will
@@accordinglyryan How many miles have you put on those replacement lights?
@@Vladimir_Lolinco One was replaced in 2019, the other in 2020. I transferred them to my new 9th gen so between the two cars probably 60,000 miles or so
What do you think of the HFP body kit for the accord
Hey what do u think of the auto transmission on this car? I'm currently in the market for a v6 coupe and I'm getting kinda sick of driving manual now cause I mainly drive in the city
The car has 18,000 miles on it now and I'm quite alright with the transmission. I don't really miss the manual all that much, car is still plenty of fun. The only small complaint I have with it is I wish the paddle shifters would respond faster; there's this sort of half-second latency between flicking the paddle and the car actually shifting gears. Other than that though, I have no qualms. It's a pretty good automatic transmission, and it has what Honda calls Grade Logic Control, so 90% of the time it isn't gear-hunting while going up and down hills and such. Wouldn't have any problem recommending it.
@@accordinglyryan Thanks for the info bro. I think I might have to test drive both just in case, but honestly I'm leaning more towards the auto. Love your videos btw
Glad I could help. Thanks and good luck with the car purchase!
Ryan Gehret right then once it does you go from chilling to being pulled in the seat but the delay is annoying my 04 v6 coupe responded a lot quicker
too early, Potato camera
tinting the windows darker in the front is inleagle I think btw. I'm not sure though.
It is, don't give a fuck lol
ok. XD
Put the k&n CAI, ktuner, Magnaflow cat back and u will be beating cars you would never think an Accord could beat
Heh, I've got Ktuner but haven't done much with it yet cause all I have is the Borla axleback and a Vibrant resonator. All I did is improved shifting level 1 and VCM disable. Haven't done CAI cause I don't wanna hydrolock my shit and there are no legal ones for this model year yet, so I just got an aFe filter instead (not the same I know). It's plenty fast for me at this time lol
Ryan Gehret I dont know why people say Hydro lock with a CAI Because it is virtually impossible!! I SAY AGAIN IMPOSSIBLE.. Unless you put your shit in a pond or river.. Iv used them on my 13 accord coupe v6, 15 Accord coupe v6, Pontiac Gtp, Caddy sts, Avalanche, Tahoe, and my buddy's performance shop has them on every single mustang they own which one is worth north of 180,000$.. There is not a rain storm in all of mankind to hydro lock.. I have been in the car and performance bizz for 25 years and have never seen a single problem with a CAI..
Eh idk I'd just rather not chance it lol.
Ryan Gehret Lol I'm just telling you.. We also have one in a Hellcat.. I'm from central NY, no body gets more rain.. You would need like 6 gallons of water at once to hydro lock.. Trust me
I gotcha
How much trade credit did they give you for your old car?
A paltry $8,750. I owed $16,000, so I carried over a lot of money.
I have a car question that if anyone that knows about cars could possibly answer please. I bought a 10,000k fully loaded, leather, V6, sunroof ect Honda Accord. 2013. It is a manual. I heard resale are great back on Honda's and it is a manual. Kelly blue book is pricing it around 12k...??? Did I pay to much? Is kbb wrong? Bought from Carmax so I have 30 days to return no questions asked....did I get ripped off? Anyway thanks for any input
Seems a bit low, you sure you're not looking at trade in value?
@@accordinglyryan I looked in and it it said "sold by private dealer) and it was around 14k trade in was 9-10k
@@jaybyrd3240 Seems a little low
@@accordinglyryan should I return the car and search elsewhere?
@@jaybyrd3240 What did you pay for it? If you already bought it then eh
241 miles when he got it lmao
Well, the original dealer that PDI'd the car (In September 2016) wasn't the one that I bought it from, and was about 210 miles away...so I figure once they purchased the car from the original dealer they just drove it back. We do that at my dealership all the time.
Why did you get a new car?
Because this was my last chance to get a V6 coupe and I hated the color of my previous car after a while.
Where did you get these rims?
Tire Rack.com years ago, they stopped selling them tho. I have a set of Enkeis now
where can i get those rims!?
Nowhere lol. They're not available anywhere anymore as far as I can tell. I smacked a curb a couple years ago and tried to find a replacement with no luck. But they are Axis Sport XQ wheels
@@accordinglyryan damn, those rims fit perfectly on yur accord i was looking to purchase it for my accord, do you know of any rims that resemble the original or no!?
@@swerv0junior605 It's a split 5 spoke, I'm sure you can find something similar lol
How much did you pay?
I'd rather not say exactly but I got $2,000 off MSRP on the car itself. Considerably more with my rolled over negative equity and interest lol. I did get a good rate through Honda though (1.9%)
Ah. Sub 40k?
Clicked off the video as soon as he said automatic
Sorry I couldn't stroke your toxic masculinity for ya
nothing wrong with automatics some people prefer autos over manuals.
LS swap it ;)