Honda fanboys coming out full-force. Fact is, great engineering is great engineering regardless of badge preference, especially when you factor in Hyundai/Kia's recent reliability and value proposition. Kudos to Kia/Hyundai for making great cars at this price point. Once upon a time, Honda used to be THAT company who focused on engineering, reliability, and value and to show for it, I have an AP2 S2000 to remind myself of the past.
I have a 2017 Kia forte 5 SX with a 7 speed dual clutch automatic. I looked for a manual in 3 different states "New". Wasn't going to special order a Kia. It has the same power train and suspension as this Elantra Sport with the exception of a torsion bar instead of independent rear suspension in the rear end. Which I honestly can't tell a difference as of yet. I haven't had it on a track yet but on the street it handles great. My only complaint is the electric steering which I'm sure is the same on the Elantra. The steering feels like nothing. I personally think the civic has the Elantra beat here all day long. But when it comes to power? I've raced 3 different stock 2017 Civic SI's with my 2017 Kia forte 5 SX. I've beat 2 out of the 3. One was a coupe the other a sedan. The one that beat me was a coupe and it was a close race but he got me 3 times in row. They are very close in power. I honestly am personally don't consider myself a "great" driver. Maybe the 1st 2 guys I raced were horrible drivers? I am willing to consider that. But they are close in power for sure. I personally like the looks of the a the Elantra better. Just my preference. But it sure could use the sporty accents that the Civic has. So far I love my KIA and have been really surprised in the quality. And keep in mind I have owned a couple Civic SI's in the past. So far my Forte 5 SX has been just as fun to drive and own as they were. It also has more options when it comes to luxury than Civic SI.
We spent $43,000 for a a brand new loaded 2014 Kia Sorrento. 1 month and 2000 km over the Powertrain warranty expired the engine blew up. Kia sold us a used engine at $8000 installed. 1 month later, the rear differential and driveshaft cratered. Kia gave us 4800 dollars for the car as a down payment on a used Ford. The verdict? A $50,000 investment that lost $46,000 in value in just 61 months. And yes, we maintained it. The car would have needed wheel bearings and a host of other repairs. Just a poorly built vehicle that shows well when new but deteriorates quickly.
Both great cars in their own ways. I would personally take the Elantra Sport bc of the better styling, exhaust note, and comfort. The Honda has had more experience with making sporty cars, but the Elantra Sport is very good for a drivers and commuter car. But, I still wish the SI had Vtec instead of a turbo. 10 years ago, I would have gone with a Honda over anything else. But today, I would choose a Hyundai or a Kia. I feel that Honda has been slipping since 2014 came around. Honda is still great, but not as good as they used to be. Hyundai is improving each generation with build quality and reliability. Initial quality and reliability is almost on par with Honda now. And, to all of you who think the Civic is the best or hate Hyundai, take the Elantra Sport for a drive and see for yourself. Not saying that the Elantra nor Civic is the best, but the Elantra has improved vastly. This isn’t Hyundai of the 80s anymore, so resale value and quality are so much better than ever before with Hyundai. It is all about preference. I would choose the Hyundai.
I own the 2019 Hyundai Elantra Sport DCT... and I LOVE it! Better price against the Honda, far better warranty, and I think it's quality outshines the Civics. Plus... it looks way better.
I too have '19 Elantra Sport, there's a few things I wish it did different(LSD, paddles on column instead of Steering wheel, and I prefer auto-stick to pull back to shift up instead of pressing up, just my preference). It also needs more torque, 195ft/lb's isn't enough, like to see it 201hp/220tq.
The Elantra Sport looks and feels like a little Audi (thanks Biermann!) and the Honda looks like a teenager’s car. That’s why I bought the Hyundai over the Honda-and I was raised on Hondas and considered myself loyal. The Hyundai’s interior and exterior are so much more grown up and it’s a blast to drive. I would never, ever own a cloth interior after age 25. The manual is almost as good as my AP1 S2000.
The Hyundai's interior looks cheap and part of a rental fleet. and I know plenty of folks who don't like leather interiors, me included, and my car is well north of these cars.
As someone who owns both of these cars, with my Civic as my tuner and my Elantra as my daily, I can tell you that the Elantra is a kickass car. The si is nice, and there's a lot you can do to it, but it's not as much fun to drive
jalmonte91 because I wanted a tuner and a daily. Don't need a truck, don't have kids so no SUV or van. Didn't have the money for anything else really. Nice being able to fuck with one car and keep the other stock.
Personally, I like the more sporty look that Honda is taking with their sedans. I think it will age nicely and, despite what you said, the interior feels more upscale than the Hyundai. I am glad you said the civic is better.
Joey Prette lmaooooo the dash and center console wobble like a motherfucker in the SI. The only advantage in “quality “ is the door panels. Elantra’s interior is SOLID.
They're the same, both reliable, "sporty" and economical considering their intentions. Personally I like the Elantra, clean design and progression in performance. No "N" version though, but I would imagine if they had one they would compare it to the Type-R and Hyundai would be in the same position. That said K car hater's have to acknowledge how far they have come to be even compared in all these categories and to do so well. Also I believe that many are going off of pervasive misinformation, and being willfully ignorant. Kia and Hyundai rank among the top in reliability. I've had Honda's and they were great, currently I have a Hyundai Elantra GT with almost 90k miles. No issues, that's all you can really ask for in a commuter car that cost less than $20k at the time. They're both the same, a fraction of a second and a foot or two here or there, can be corrected with an error margin. but Honda dropped the ball in style and design.
I think one of the Civic's strong points is the cloth seats. Cloth seats are sooo underrated, much more comfortable in warm climates AND nicer for the environment (& animals).
The Elantra Sport seems to be a car for mature people, not for kiddos playing the racers... I would take the Elantra... It is sober, elegant, very safe, well finished and with an European style. I owned a Hyundai Accent for 10 years and it was one of the best cars I ever owned... I am also owner of two Hondas, I love them both and they are amazing... So I know both brands very well.
My bet is that the radical looks of the Civic will grow over time on people. this will make the car eventually look still new, many years from now. The more conservative styled Elantra will probably look out of fashion by the arrival of the next gen in 4 to 5 years...
FrightfulAccountant people said that about the "futuristic" exotics coming out in the 90s. But they weren't in fashion after a few years, they looked like a botched attempt at being chic
Wow, the Hyundai hate is strong as ever in the comments section I see. Everyone that is saying the Si wins this comparison "hands down", have you even been in an Elantra Sport? I've got a news flash for you. As far as build quality and reliability, Honda is NOT the Honda of old. These new generation Civics have issues. I personally know three people that own a 2016+ Civic (Sport, not Si). Two of them have had multiple electrical issues, one of whom was so frustrated by the issues they ended up trading in their Civic 6 months after purchasing it brand new for a different brand all together. I think this comparison is more than fair considering reviewers only spend a very short period of time in vehicles. For me personally, If I don't have to live with a car day in, day out, I could care less about a vehicles exterior styling, its infotainment, its exhaust note, etc. What I would care about is the drive itself, and I don't think anyone here is arguing that the Si is the more "fun to drive" of the two. Hyundai hasn't been building sport compact cars forever like Honda has. What people fail to understand is that the Elantra Sport is still a BLAST to drive. It doesn't do it better than the Si, but it isn't far behind either. Now, as a consumer, the end user, you are the one living with a car day in day out. You walk outside every morning and you have to look at the car in your Garage/Driveway. You have to deal with the infotainment systems daily. You have to sit in those seats daily. For most, your commute consists of heavy traffic, straight roads and traffic lights. Looks are Subjective, but how many can honestly tell me that the Civic Si is a better looking car than the Elantra Sport? Personally I think Hyundai absolutely knocked it out of the park in the looks department. Moving inside, personally I prefer Leather to cloth, I like having a heated steering wheel in the winter time, and Hyundai's infotainment is considered to be one of the best in the business right now. The Elantra Sport actually beat the Si on the Autocross on "TheStraightPipes" comparision these two vehicles, although both Yuri and Jakub both agreed the Si felt sportier and more fun to drive. They said they both felt more consistent in the Elantra Sport. So despite the Si feeling faster and sportier, when it comes to actual performance numbers, these vehicles are very close. And that combine with the massive MSRP difference, the better looks, the better interior, the better infotainment system, the better warranty, and I'll throw this in here...that exhaust note. I think you are cheating yourself by not SERIOUSLY considering the Elantra Sport when looking at the Civic Si. I'm not telling everyone how to spend their money, I'm just saying to be smart about these types of decisions. If I can get equal performance, better styling, better interior, better infotainment, for much less money, I know where my money is going.
Konrad C again, the Si definitely feels faster and sportier, there is no question. It's amazing that they actually make similar power because the Si feels like it's got 50 extra hp due to its power delivery. The Elantra feels N/A by comparison. Still a great car though.
You are right, there are some very "small" things absent from reviews that can make or break a car Some of my experience living the Si (and having test driven the ES multiple times before making my choice). Build quality wise, I think both are excellent, Ive owned a korean car in the past, and have no doubts that they can make a solid car. as for electrical issues on the civic, The only major one is for some reason my audio system locks up if I stall the car. Honestly considering how rare that happens I don't really consider it too much of an issue. looks aside, I can't really comment on this, I bought the coupe (which isn't an option on the Hyundai), and I honestly prefer the looks of the coupe more. The stance is lower, proportion's are MUCH better than the sedan, and it has 2 less fake vents, and a spoiler that helps correct the "bubble butt" You notice on the regular coupe. On a daily driver note. For heavy traffic, I honestly would take the civic, that vague clutch, makes is super forgiving and incing in traffic is significantly less tiring than almost any other manual car i've driven. I don't like it when i'm driving hard, but man is it a saver when stuck on the highway. For me I personally prefer cloth, I tend to sweat in leather seats, with the lack of ventilation. As for the autocross comparison, It's well understood in that video that they are only equal because the OE tires on the civic are just not as good in absolute grip. "Consistency" and confidence go a long way when the grip limit is higher. Had they had the same rubber (which honestly people would switch out within 3 years anyways knowing how fast eaglesports wear out), The Si definitely has more of an advantage from a car setup perspective. as for price, I don't really see a too big difference. The massive price gap is lessened once you add in the premium package to get dual zone auto and nav back in (which the canadian Si has as standard). And Having owned a 2013 optima previously, All the money saved when I bought car (I got a $6500 Cash discount) was countered by the lower resale value. This isn't me saying that korean cars are pieces of crap down the road (they are not). Its just a fact that when it comes to sell, the Si will retain it's value simply because it's an Si, and there are people buying that car specifically, whereas for better or for worse, there isn't on the ES. as for my personal reasons for choosing the Si. It was again one of those "small things" overlooked by most. I MUCH prefer the seating position of the Si. the ES just doesn't get low enough, and at times it feels like i'm driving a crossover siting so up right. the Si retains that "feet in front" position. The gauge cluster is almost flush with the dash and very low, the stick is higher up closer to the arm rest (and shorter, which helps with lessen the throws), I get why Hyundai chose not to do this, the Si is definitely harder to get in and out of, but again as you said "You have to sit in those seats daily", I would much rather take that connected feeling you get on the Si. TLDR, they are BOTH GREAT CARS, and should both be considered greatly to any buyer, but I can't simply agree that the ES is a better buy for the vast majority of people either. I can narrow it down to these 2, and then just ask them to take a test drive and see which they prefer.
The past two weekends I went car shopping for new cars with my son. The most important criteria was good power and he want nothing bigger than a Civic class. He was trading in a 2010 Kia Forte EX which I must say was pretty snappy with the bigger engine, around 155hp. Corolla, gutless but one of the better interiors. New Kia Forte nice but again not enough power. Civic, fast but like someone said here teen boyish looks, loud, and interior was nice. Mazda 3 touring 184hp, fast enough, fit and finish was top notch, class ride. That was last weekend. Prior to leaving yesterday i stumble on the Elantra sport. Saw the 201hp Turbo spec. For some reason Hyundai was not on his radar. I showed him the specs and off we went to test it out. It had the 7 speed auto which performed flawless and from the passenger seat the take off and pull felt better than the SI. Interior was much nicer than the Honda and this included Sunroof, Auto dimming mirror, Infinity speakers, Leather.. We both were blown away. The dealer was motivated to clear the 2018's out so here was the deal. 25k+ sticker. With incentives the price came down to $20,500!!! They offered him $1,000 for his Kia with 125k miles. My son said that was lite for the trade and said we leave for an hour or so to think it over. the mgr up it to $1,800 plus he got the new college graduate $400 rebate on top of that. We still walked away. Went and look at some other cars briefly. He said it was between the Mazda 3 and the Hyundai. Hyundai hands down...... We went back and he now own's a new Hyundai.
Firstly, Elantra Sport beat Civic Si in other vid where they raced each other. So i'm not sure about the speed difference mentioned in this vid. Also You should think about the price difference. In this segment, 4k difference is a lot. It's like 1/5~1/6 difference. Those who talk about resale value does make sense, but at that time you'll be earning more money and that depreciation difference might not matter as much as 4k difference at a younger stage. Personally I think Hyundai's resale value may go up considering the fact that they have been working very hard on quality for recent few years. Plus, you could just keep Elantra since it has 10 year warranty and sufficient reliability.
Your logic to justify the resale value doesn't make much sense at all. Regardless of when you "pay" that upfront in the cost, or in resale value afterwards, IT ALWAYS factors into cost of ownership the same way. a car is a depreciating asset, but it is STILL an asset. if it's worth 4k less at the end then that is 4k less money when you purchase the next car. banking on "hopefully in the future you will make more money" is hardly an excuse. as for the race where they raced eachother, equal powered cars neck and neck, but with OE tires. The ES tires are more grippy than the civic's, had they been on the same rubber, The civic would've pulled away.
You're probably referring to that dumbass video with the two guys. The Civic was undertired compared to the Elantra in that video and that makes a big difference. Civic has summer tires that can be added as option.
Raced one with my 2017 Si and was even until 100mph and started pulling ahead of the elantra....that hyundai its pretty damn good...btw the elantra was paddle shifter
If you're an American and slightly confused watching this video you should be. The Civic Si he reviewed is the Canadian version which gets LED head lights. The American version they cheaped out with Halogen lights. :(
The reason why Korean cars are dominating now is because they’re not overpriced like their competitors I mean just like at the new 2020 Genesis G90 it does exactly the same thing what the Mercedes-Benz S-Class does but for a cheaper price
Hyundai all the way. Better value, better looks, near equal performance, and MUCH less money. Who cares about resale when the car costs 5k less? You'll NEVER earn that money back in resale.
Dylan Wodrich near equal performance? How do you know ? Because you read a 0-60? Better value ? Yea wait til it's worth half in 2 years and you have no idea of the actual build quality of Hyundai you just guess ... Lmao
Clous von I drove the elantra sport a week ago. The build quality is top notch for this class. The performance is excellent. And the car costs significantly less than the civic and I looked up resale values of both cars and they are the same after 3 years. So the Hyundai ends up being better because it costs less and doesn't lose more value. Do some research before you comment.
Dylan Wodrich don't get wrong I prefee the hyundai elantra sport much more, however Hondas civic si have always had crazy good resale values I doubt the elantra sport will be nearly as good
Plus the 10 year 100k powertrain and 7 year 60k bumper to bumper on the Hyundai, about double what the civic offers and to me thats a pretty big deal. If engine or transmission goes out 80k miles in you are going to wish you had the Hyundai
Kia and Hyundai are going to take over the car industry in a few years. They are doing alot of things right. Though I would personally choose the Honda for the brand reliability. That might change if Kia/ Hyundai keep improving and building the brand.
Nothing wrong with their old cars I own a 2010 Elantra and it does about regular highway pulls I'm at 140,000kms with zero issues. It's because these cars need to be maintained by owners manual honda makes cars for people who don't know how much oil their car even takes..
Bought my 2010 Kia Forte used in Nov 2010 with 16k miles on it. Fast forward a little over 8 years later and still going strong. Has 234k miles on it now. Not once did I ever get a check engine light for something other than loose gas cap. Very reliable. My next one will be the Elantra
Just took my black interior/exterior 2018 Elantra sport from San Francisco HWY 1 to Fort Bragg. Its an awesome road. The car preformed excellent. Raced a 2017 Maserati Granturismo. He didn't stand a chance. Mine is turbo charged. His was not. When a Honda Civic SI saw me coming it would simply pull over and a wave a white handkerchief. The Toyota Camry drivers would stare in a state of stunned awe of its black beauty whizzing past them. So many victories in one 100 mile drive its hard to share them all.
Just got mine 2 days ago. Its absolutely FUCKING AMAZING. I just drove 100 miles from CT to NY... I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE LOOKED DOWN AT THE SPEEDOMETER AND SAW THE NEEDLE AT 110!!! AND IT WAS STILL GOING SMOOTH AND STRAIGHT WITH RAZOR SHARP HANDLING THROUGH LANE CHANGES!!!! I WAS KEEPING UP WITH A PORSCHE PANAMERA!!!
Honestly, these two brands of cars differ in the city and town you live in. So there really is no better car overall. Here in Nevada, with the traffic not terrible and there being a lot of open roads, the si is the biggest and baddest here and the Hyundai dealerships can't sell their Elantra sports and trade them for more Sonatas from LA and San Diego where the Elantra does shine and do better than the si.
I drove Civic si coupe few days ago, car felt great! Very planted, responsive and quick on it's feet. Id say new Civic Si in underrated as far as power/trq goes as it certainly felt more like 220-225hp according to butt dyno 😁 That said, Elantra is much better looking in my opinion, and offers hatchback option in GT sport trim/w 6sp manual with I'm most interested in.
The Civic Si looks like something for a high-school fuc-boi who vapes and does Tik-Tok’s. While the Elantra Sport is for a College Graduate who drove a RSX or 350z for college.😂
Why do people keep comparing the two cars? Isn't the Elantra Sport competing more so with the Civic Sport? Look at the price difference. Also the Elantra does not require premium fuel.
So you shouldn't compare them even though they perform basically the same? The Elantra is just a much better value overall. I guess if you hate leather seats and like spending much more on fuel then the Civic is for you....Oh and the $5K discount on the Elantra over the Civic might not be your thing either huh?
I have the 2018 Elantra Sport DCT and compared to the Civic Si and the GTI its fast. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Ask the people who actually own one.
I know I am kinda late but I purchased exactly same car as you describe. It is a fun car and the quality is amazing. People who talk bad about the elantra is cause is a Honda fan boy or haven't drive one. I'd say feels similar like my older 335i 2008. The elantra has great torque. Specially when sport mode is on.
I'll never understand what the Honda Engineers were thinking when they came up with the styling for the Si. Especially the huge plastic fake air vents. Why can't Honda take a lesson from Audi and BMW in exterior design. Those cars are timeless in their appearance. It's the same with the Accord which looked great before and looks worse in the over styled exterior of the 18.
The Entertainment System on the Hyundai Elantra won this vote over to the described mess of one that on the Honda Civic. The image of the Elentra also gets a high sway to it as well.
skifree so jealous /.\” in the u.s. the SI only comes with halogen but i wonder would the civic touring headlights fit in the SI since the touring model comes standard with led
Did you and I watch the same video? He never gushed that much about the Elantra and he certainly never called the Civic bad. He was definitely much more enthusiastic about the driving experience in the Civic which makes sense why he chose it.
He said the styling, steering, suspension, engine sound, acceleration, interior quality, infotainment of Elantra are great. He said that all of the above except suspension are bad for Civic. May be you should pay more attention while watching videos
Buy a hyundai today sell it the next day and price is half the msrp..ha ha ha..as fast and furious say " Do you think I'll let you roll on a HYUNDAI" ha ha ha ha..
"Honda mailed it in with the interior". Bullshit. Honda's interior looks a class above the Elantra which still looks like it's glorifying its econo car roots and is just waiting for a rental company to snatch it up.
This is s very nice comparison. If you could have the Hyundai style and with the Honda mechanicals/engineering, you could have a wonderful sedan. I wish you would have commented on the Hyundai 6-speed like you did on the Civic. Thanks for reviewing.
Ya I don’t know about that butter smooth shifting 6 speed in the civic. My 2018 si seems like it doesn’t shift as smooth as my old 1980 rx7 use to but maybe it still needs to break in just turned 600 miles in the new Si
Why does it seem like every reviewer always talks about how great or new and improved a Hyundai or Kia is but would never choose them over something else. Plus you will never be as excited about anything as Sami is about cars.
I wouldn’t even compare the Elantra sport to the si. Id compare it to the civic sport hatch. They’re around the same price and have about the same power to weight ratio. Because the si is lighter. Has adaptive suspension and an LSD. it’s not really fair to the Hyundai I also don’t like the rear of the si but It’s much better than the overall potato shape of the Elantra.
We thought so too and did that comparo in January. We thought the Elantra Sport outguns the Civic Touring, so we brought it back for a rematch with the sportier Civic Si: th-cam.com/video/K9gzsSgVejA/w-d-xo.html
The two perform almost identically. 0-60 is 6.3 in the Civic and 6.6 in the Hyundai. Handling is .97g's for the Honda and .91g's for the Hyundai. Funny thing is when you put similar all season tires on the Civic it drops to 6.7 0-60 and .89 g's on the skidpad as per Car and Driver. The Hyundai comes standard with all season tires. Switch to summer only tires similar to the Civic and the Hyundai will likely equal or best the numbers the Civic puts down. Why wouldn't you compare two cars so equally matched? Is it because the Hyundai offers so much more for much less money? Sorry but the performance is there to match the civic whether you believe it or not.
You can’t stand to look at the civic but it’s the one you’d choose? That’s like saying hey girl I can’t stand how ugly you are but I still want your number
If I may. I own a 2012 Elantra which is nothing really special, but is the most reliable car that I have ever owned and I've owned every kind of make that ever has been. I believe that the Korean market has become the new benchmark and I'll explain why. Toyota, Datsun or say Nissan and Mazda who've I owned and every American make that there is to own has not measured up to the standards of what Hyundai has demonstrated to the highest standards expected to backing up their vehicles under warranty coverage or moral for that matter. There company as a whole is nothing that stands out so to speak, but any company that tries to put their best foot forward is the best to choose from. Look at Toyota, they were not so hot in their beginning years and yet they have never offered a 100,000 mile warranty on any of their vehicles or any other company for that matter. Where else can you get a coverage on any other vehicle other than Hyundai? I'm right at 187,000 miles on my 2012 Elantra and only have had an air bag spring sensor problem which costed less than $300.00 and that's it. I have seen on line of a record of 405,000 miles and even over 650,000 miles on this car design with very few problems. The Elantra to me is just breaking ground with real performance and I'm willing to hold out for something better, such as a history of reliability and an increase in horsepower and torque and a all wheel drive system that surpasses Ford's Focus RS design. The Hyundai Elantra is just beginning to break ground and move forward to something a whole lot more for your hard earned dollar. This is a company that not only aims to provide more than one option for performance of a standard transmission but a duel clutch automatic transmission as well since I'm a below the knee amputee and yes I know how to drive a standard as well, but it's nice to have the option.
If looks is that top in your priority list, then just get the Civic Si coupe. At the moment, the Civic is clearly a better car than the Hyundai. I applaud the Koreans for their efforts though, its a nice car.
Wrong! The ES keeps right up with the Si in every aspect. Car and Driver actually tested an Si with all season tires and it performed worse than the Hyundai does on it's standard all season tires. The Honda ONLY has an advantage when it has summer only tires. The Hyundai also performs this close to the Si on REGULAR GAS. Last I checked it is 60 cents more per gallon for super unleaded. OUCH! And my mileage has been about 33 mpg mixed around town. 36-37 mpg should easily be achievable on a highway trip. The EPA is way low on these cars. Car and Driver actually admitted that as well. There goes another supposed big advantage to the Civic. Sorry you Civic fans can't handle the facts but there they are....
He hates the civics look from interior and exterior because he "thinks" they're ugly. I "think" that the dude doesn't really make a great car review video. How can you like the sporty growl of the Elantra, but also have that be a negative to it? Pretty sure if you love how something sounds, you'd want to hear it all the time. Redline Reviews are better.
people are just relying on company's name and are not seen the big picture. Civic SI has been out for a while in contrast with the Elantra, which just came out this year. Korean manufactures, in general, are becoming the new reliable products for consumers, they are developing better products period. Korea is leading in reliability and product quality compare to Japan. I love both cars but I have to admit that Honda is not like it was before. People are just afraid to accept changes and they rely only on brand's name, not seen the fact that their products are not the same anymore. just in case. Here is an article of many articles stating my OWN OPINION! fortune.com/2015/06/29/korean-japanese-cars-quality/
Let me guess, after 3 year the Honda will be worth around 16k to 18k and the Hyundai 8k to 10k well if your lucky.. yeah no thank you! I will keep the civic
Brian Vtec if the Honda is so good, why would you want to sell it? You have to remember, I can buy a $25k MSRP Elantra Sport with infinity audio, blind spot warning and more for $17k plus taxes and fees. So why would the car be worth more than what I paid for it new? Try that with your Si.
FudgeRevolution I buy and sell cars in the side, and I won’t buy Hyundai’s to make money.. I usually buy Hondas and Toyota’s... same thing with Kia... I can still sell a 2004 Honda Civic for 4K man! I’m been doing this for a while and all my costumers are happy with their cars :)
Um no it's not. If it has that power to the wheels, 0-60 in 6.3 is embarrassing.... Plus the Elantra Sport keeps pace with it with 201 HP and they didn't rate that at the wheels.
Honda fanboys coming out full-force. Fact is, great engineering is great engineering regardless of badge preference, especially when you factor in Hyundai/Kia's recent reliability and value proposition. Kudos to Kia/Hyundai for making great cars at this price point. Once upon a time, Honda used to be THAT company who focused on engineering, reliability, and value and to show for it, I have an AP2 S2000 to remind myself of the past.
Thank You! Well said!
I have a 2017 Kia forte 5 SX with a 7 speed dual clutch automatic. I looked for a manual in 3 different states "New". Wasn't going to special order a Kia.
It has the same power train and suspension as this Elantra Sport with the exception of a torsion bar instead of independent rear suspension in the rear end. Which I honestly can't tell a difference as of yet. I haven't had it on a track yet but on the street it handles great. My only complaint is the electric steering which I'm sure is the same on the Elantra. The steering feels like nothing. I personally think the civic has the Elantra beat here all day long. But when it comes to power? I've raced 3 different stock 2017 Civic SI's with my 2017 Kia forte 5 SX. I've beat 2 out of the 3. One was a coupe the other a sedan. The one that beat me was a coupe and it was a close race but he got me 3 times in row. They are very close in power. I honestly am personally don't consider myself a "great" driver. Maybe the 1st 2 guys I raced were horrible drivers? I am willing to consider that. But they are close in power for sure. I personally like the looks of the a the Elantra better. Just my preference. But it sure could use the sporty accents that the Civic has.
So far I love my KIA and have been really surprised in the quality. And keep in mind I have owned a couple Civic SI's in the past. So far my Forte 5 SX has been just as fun to drive and own as they were. It also has more options when it comes to luxury than Civic SI.
We spent $43,000 for a a brand new loaded 2014 Kia Sorrento. 1 month and 2000 km over the Powertrain warranty expired the engine blew up. Kia sold us a used engine at $8000 installed. 1 month later, the rear differential and driveshaft cratered. Kia gave us 4800 dollars for the car as a down payment on a used Ford. The verdict? A $50,000 investment that lost $46,000 in value in just 61 months. And yes, we maintained it. The car would have needed wheel bearings and a host of other repairs. Just a poorly built vehicle that shows well when new but deteriorates quickly.
Both great cars in their own ways. I would personally take the Elantra Sport bc of the better styling, exhaust note, and comfort. The Honda has had more experience with making sporty cars, but the Elantra Sport is very good for a drivers and commuter car. But, I still wish the SI had Vtec instead of a turbo. 10 years ago, I would have gone with a Honda over anything else. But today, I would choose a Hyundai or a Kia. I feel that Honda has been slipping since 2014 came around. Honda is still great, but not as good as they used to be. Hyundai is improving each generation with build quality and reliability. Initial quality and reliability is almost on par with Honda now. And, to all of you who think the Civic is the best or hate Hyundai, take the Elantra Sport for a drive and see for yourself. Not saying that the Elantra nor Civic is the best, but the Elantra has improved vastly. This isn’t Hyundai of the 80s anymore, so resale value and quality are so much better than ever before with Hyundai. It is all about preference. I would choose the Hyundai.
I own the 2019 Hyundai Elantra Sport DCT... and I LOVE it! Better price against the Honda, far better warranty, and I think it's quality outshines the Civics. Plus... it looks way better.
I too have '19 Elantra Sport, there's a few things I wish it did different(LSD, paddles on column instead of Steering wheel, and I prefer auto-stick to pull back to shift up instead of pressing up, just my preference). It also needs more torque, 195ft/lb's isn't enough, like to see it 201hp/220tq.
@@DazdnCofuzd Can't have it all at that price mehn.
@@DazdnCofuzd If you want to explore tuning options, you can definitely get more torque in that 1.6T.
Elantra Sport looks more mature. Civic still looks boy-racer. Give me the Elantra.
NFSU2 anyone?
You make me laugh so much ! I though I have to sell my Ferrari right now bacause it looks like boy-racer !
The Elantra Sport looks and feels like a little Audi (thanks Biermann!) and the Honda looks like a teenager’s car. That’s why I bought the Hyundai over the Honda-and I was raised on Hondas and considered myself loyal. The Hyundai’s interior and exterior are so much more grown up and it’s a blast to drive. I would never, ever own a cloth interior after age 25. The manual is almost as good as my AP1 S2000.
The Hyundai's interior looks cheap and part of a rental fleet. and I know plenty of folks who don't like leather interiors, me included, and my car is well north of these cars.
senorgato70 Meh, I disagree with your whole entire life system.
Funny, all the luxurious cars use leather as main interior material and you don' like it...hmm..what a taste...
thinking500 you’re not loyal your my fart!
thinking500 😂😂😂😂 this a joke right? This feels nothing like an Audi, and i am not a vag fan at all.
As someone who owns both of these cars, with my Civic as my tuner and my Elantra as my daily, I can tell you that the Elantra is a kickass car. The si is nice, and there's a lot you can do to it, but it's not as much fun to drive
Side note, my Elantra was dyno'd stock at 212hp, 202lbft. The civic clocked at 206hp, 188lbft.
Why do you have 2 vehicles in the same class?
jalmonte91 because I wanted a tuner and a daily. Don't need a truck, don't have kids so no SUV or van. Didn't have the money for anything else really. Nice being able to fuck with one car and keep the other stock.
EffGames this is actually good to know. Thank you!
EffGames lie
I rent an Elentra in Solvang CA and was really impressed by it's handling carving through the mountain road. well don Hyundai.
Personally, I like the more sporty look that Honda is taking with their sedans. I think it will age nicely and, despite what you said, the interior feels more upscale than the Hyundai. I am glad you said the civic is better.
Joey Prette lmaooooo the dash and center console wobble like a motherfucker in the SI. The only advantage in “quality “ is the door panels. Elantra’s interior is SOLID.
Elantra near me have rebates, i can get fully loaded one for $18k nothing really compares at that price point for a daily driver.
They're the same, both reliable, "sporty" and economical considering their intentions. Personally I like the Elantra, clean design and progression in performance. No "N" version though, but I would imagine if they had one they would compare it to the Type-R and Hyundai would be in the same position. That said K car hater's have to acknowledge how far they have come to be even compared in all these categories and to do so well. Also I believe that many are going off of pervasive misinformation, and being willfully ignorant. Kia and Hyundai rank among the top in reliability. I've had Honda's and they were great, currently I have a Hyundai Elantra GT with almost 90k miles. No issues, that's all you can really ask for in a commuter car that cost less than $20k at the time. They're both the same, a fraction of a second and a foot or two here or there, can be corrected with an error margin. but Honda dropped the ball in style and design.
The Elantra. Far better looking.
MyerShift7 that's not an accomplishment
MyerShift7 which is more reliable????? Of course Honda!!!!
Honda looks better
Honda may be slightly more reliable than Hyundai. But even Hyundai will go 150k miles without much problem..
MyerShift7 that’s opinion. Civic is unique and way better looking
I think one of the Civic's strong points is the cloth seats. Cloth seats are sooo underrated, much more comfortable in warm climates AND nicer for the environment (& animals).
The Elantra Sport seems to be a car for mature people, not for kiddos playing the racers... I would take the Elantra... It is sober, elegant, very safe, well finished and with an European style.
I owned a Hyundai Accent for 10 years and it was one of the best cars I ever owned... I am also owner of two Hondas, I love them both and they are amazing... So I know both brands very well.
www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/hyundai-elantra-1-million-miles/
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Bruh!!!! I’m dying 😂😂
Lololololololololol.
Im done with the internet
My bet is that the radical looks of the Civic will grow over time on people. this will make the car eventually look still new, many years from now. The more conservative styled Elantra will probably look out of fashion by the arrival of the next gen in 4 to 5 years...
FrightfulAccountant people said that about the "futuristic" exotics coming out in the 90s. But they weren't in fashion after a few years, they looked like a botched attempt at being chic
and some of us still prefer older car styles.
FrightfulAccountant man that is really a astute comment .. Either u r 35 and up or have high iq
Wow, the Hyundai hate is strong as ever in the comments section I see. Everyone that is saying the Si wins this comparison "hands down", have you even been in an Elantra Sport? I've got a news flash for you. As far as build quality and reliability, Honda is NOT the Honda of old. These new generation Civics have issues. I personally know three people that own a 2016+ Civic (Sport, not Si). Two of them have had multiple electrical issues, one of whom was so frustrated by the issues they ended up trading in their Civic 6 months after purchasing it brand new for a different brand all together.
I think this comparison is more than fair considering reviewers only spend a very short period of time in vehicles. For me personally, If I don't have to live with a car day in, day out, I could care less about a vehicles exterior styling, its infotainment, its exhaust note, etc. What I would care about is the drive itself, and I don't think anyone here is arguing that the Si is the more "fun to drive" of the two. Hyundai hasn't been building sport compact cars forever like Honda has. What people fail to understand is that the Elantra Sport is still a BLAST to drive. It doesn't do it better than the Si, but it isn't far behind either.
Now, as a consumer, the end user, you are the one living with a car day in day out. You walk outside every morning and you have to look at the car in your Garage/Driveway. You have to deal with the infotainment systems daily. You have to sit in those seats daily. For most, your commute consists of heavy traffic, straight roads and traffic lights. Looks are Subjective, but how many can honestly tell me that the Civic Si is a better looking car than the Elantra Sport? Personally I think Hyundai absolutely knocked it out of the park in the looks department. Moving inside, personally I prefer Leather to cloth, I like having a heated steering wheel in the winter time, and Hyundai's infotainment is considered to be one of the best in the business right now. The Elantra Sport actually beat the Si on the Autocross on "TheStraightPipes" comparision these two vehicles, although both Yuri and Jakub both agreed the Si felt sportier and more fun to drive. They said they both felt more consistent in the Elantra Sport.
So despite the Si feeling faster and sportier, when it comes to actual performance numbers, these vehicles are very close. And that combine with the massive MSRP difference, the better looks, the better interior, the better infotainment system, the better warranty, and I'll throw this in here...that exhaust note. I think you are cheating yourself by not SERIOUSLY considering the Elantra Sport when looking at the Civic Si. I'm not telling everyone how to spend their money, I'm just saying to be smart about these types of decisions. If I can get equal performance, better styling, better interior, better infotainment, for much less money, I know where my money is going.
Jason Kernc I had the same issue guess what????????
Jason Kernc driven both, hyundai falls flat on its face.
Konrad C again, the Si definitely feels faster and sportier, there is no question. It's amazing that they actually make similar power because the Si feels like it's got 50 extra hp due to its power delivery. The Elantra feels N/A by comparison. Still a great car though.
You are right, there are some very "small" things absent from reviews that can make or break a car
Some of my experience living the Si (and having test driven the ES multiple times before making my choice). Build quality wise, I think both are excellent, Ive owned a korean car in the past, and have no doubts that they can make a solid car. as for electrical issues on the civic, The only major one is for some reason my audio system locks up if I stall the car. Honestly considering how rare that happens I don't really consider it too much of an issue.
looks aside, I can't really comment on this, I bought the coupe (which isn't an option on the Hyundai), and I honestly prefer the looks of the coupe more. The stance is lower, proportion's are MUCH better than the sedan, and it has 2 less fake vents, and a spoiler that helps correct the "bubble butt" You notice on the regular coupe.
On a daily driver note. For heavy traffic, I honestly would take the civic, that vague clutch, makes is super forgiving and incing in traffic is significantly less tiring than almost any other manual car i've driven. I don't like it when i'm driving hard, but man is it a saver when stuck on the highway.
For me I personally prefer cloth, I tend to sweat in leather seats, with the lack of ventilation.
As for the autocross comparison, It's well understood in that video that they are only equal because the OE tires on the civic are just not as good in absolute grip. "Consistency" and confidence go a long way when the grip limit is higher. Had they had the same rubber (which honestly people would switch out within 3 years anyways knowing how fast eaglesports wear out), The Si definitely has more of an advantage from a car setup perspective.
as for price, I don't really see a too big difference. The massive price gap is lessened once you add in the premium package to get dual zone auto and nav back in (which the canadian Si has as standard). And Having owned a 2013 optima previously, All the money saved when I bought car (I got a $6500 Cash discount) was countered by the lower resale value. This isn't me saying that korean cars are pieces of crap down the road (they are not). Its just a fact that when it comes to sell, the Si will retain it's value simply because it's an Si, and there are people buying that car specifically, whereas for better or for worse, there isn't on the ES.
as for my personal reasons for choosing the Si. It was again one of those "small things" overlooked by most. I MUCH prefer the seating position of the Si. the ES just doesn't get low enough, and at times it feels like i'm driving a crossover siting so up right. the Si retains that "feet in front" position. The gauge cluster is almost flush with the dash and very low, the stick is higher up closer to the arm rest (and shorter, which helps with lessen the throws), I get why Hyundai chose not to do this, the Si is definitely harder to get in and out of, but again as you said "You have to sit in those seats daily", I would much rather take that connected feeling you get on the Si.
TLDR, they are BOTH GREAT CARS, and should both be considered greatly to any buyer, but I can't simply agree that the ES is a better buy for the vast majority of people either. I can narrow it down to these 2, and then just ask them to take a test drive and see which they prefer.
The past two weekends I went car shopping for new cars with my son. The most important criteria was good power and he want nothing bigger than a Civic class. He was trading in a 2010 Kia Forte EX which I must say was pretty snappy with the bigger engine, around 155hp. Corolla, gutless but one of the better interiors. New Kia Forte nice but again not enough power. Civic, fast but like someone said here teen boyish looks, loud, and interior was nice. Mazda 3 touring 184hp, fast enough, fit and finish was top notch, class ride. That was last weekend. Prior to leaving yesterday i stumble on the Elantra sport. Saw the 201hp Turbo spec. For some reason Hyundai was not on his radar. I showed him the specs and off we went to test it out. It had the 7 speed auto which performed flawless and from the passenger seat the take off and pull felt better than the SI. Interior was much nicer than the Honda and this included Sunroof, Auto dimming mirror, Infinity speakers, Leather.. We both were blown away. The dealer was motivated to clear the 2018's out so here was the deal. 25k+ sticker. With incentives the price came down to $20,500!!! They offered him $1,000 for his Kia with 125k miles. My son said that was lite for the trade and said we leave for an hour or so to think it over. the mgr up it to $1,800 plus he got the new college graduate $400 rebate on top of that. We still walked away. Went and look at some other cars briefly.
He said it was between the Mazda 3 and the Hyundai. Hyundai hands down...... We went back and he now own's a new Hyundai.
Firstly, Elantra Sport beat Civic Si in other vid where they raced each other. So i'm not sure about the speed difference mentioned in this vid. Also You should think about the price difference. In this segment, 4k difference is a lot. It's like 1/5~1/6 difference. Those who talk about resale value does make sense, but at that time you'll be earning more money and that depreciation difference might not matter as much as 4k difference at a younger stage. Personally I think Hyundai's resale value may go up considering the fact that they have been working very hard on quality for recent few years. Plus, you could just keep Elantra since it has 10 year warranty and sufficient reliability.
Your logic to justify the resale value doesn't make much sense at all. Regardless of when you "pay" that upfront in the cost, or in resale value afterwards, IT ALWAYS factors into cost of ownership the same way. a car is a depreciating asset, but it is STILL an asset. if it's worth 4k less at the end then that is 4k less money when you purchase the next car. banking on "hopefully in the future you will make more money" is hardly an excuse.
as for the race where they raced eachother, equal powered cars neck and neck, but with OE tires. The ES tires are more grippy than the civic's, had they been on the same rubber, The civic would've pulled away.
You're probably referring to that dumbass video with the two guys. The Civic was undertired compared to the Elantra in that video and that makes a big difference. Civic has summer tires that can be added as option.
Lowlands idk who would want a Hyundai left over!
Raced one with my 2017 Si and was even until 100mph and started pulling ahead of the elantra....that hyundai its pretty damn good...btw the elantra was paddle shifter
Lowlands rock case in fort Lauderdale gave me a 10 yr 120k bumper to bumper and a 200k 20 yr powertrain
Here then, Hyundai Elantra is more important and chosen as there is better taste in Entertainment, and has a good image inside and outside.
If you're an American and slightly confused watching this video you should be. The Civic Si he reviewed is the Canadian version which gets LED head lights. The American version they cheaped out with Halogen lights. :(
Im a honda fan but the elantra is better look buy far
The reason why Korean cars are dominating now is because they’re not overpriced like their competitors I mean just like at the new 2020 Genesis G90 it does exactly the same thing what the Mercedes-Benz S-Class does but for a cheaper price
Both '18 Honda Civic Si and '18 Hyundai Elantra Sport looks hot.
Hyundai all the way. Better value, better looks, near equal performance, and MUCH less money. Who cares about resale when the car costs 5k less? You'll NEVER earn that money back in resale.
Dylan Wodrich near equal performance? How do you know ? Because you read a 0-60? Better value ? Yea wait til it's worth half in 2 years and you have no idea of the actual build quality of Hyundai you just guess ... Lmao
Clous von I drove the elantra sport a week ago. The build quality is top notch for this class. The performance is excellent. And the car costs significantly less than the civic and I looked up resale values of both cars and they are the same after 3 years. So the Hyundai ends up being better because it costs less and doesn't lose more value. Do some research before you comment.
Dylan Wodrich don't get wrong I prefee the hyundai elantra sport much more, however Hondas civic si have always had crazy good resale values I doubt the elantra sport will be nearly as good
Get your facts correct, Honda has way better resale values and are cheaper to buy?!
Plus the 10 year 100k powertrain and 7 year 60k bumper to bumper on the Hyundai, about double what the civic offers and to me thats a pretty big deal. If engine or transmission goes out 80k miles in you are going to wish you had the Hyundai
Kia and Hyundai are going to take over the car industry in a few years. They are doing alot of things right. Though I would personally choose the Honda for the brand reliability. That might change if Kia/ Hyundai keep improving and building the brand.
Nothing wrong with their old cars I own a 2010 Elantra and it does about regular highway pulls I'm at 140,000kms with zero issues. It's because these cars need to be maintained by owners manual honda makes cars for people who don't know how much oil their car even takes..
www.thecarconnection.com/news/1119352_group-calls-on-hyundai-kia-to-recall-2-9-million-vehicles-for-fire-risk
Bought my 2010 Kia Forte used in Nov 2010 with 16k miles on it. Fast forward a little over 8 years later and still going strong. Has 234k miles on it now. Not once did I ever get a check engine light for something other than loose gas cap. Very reliable. My next one will be the Elantra
Just took my black interior/exterior 2018 Elantra sport from San Francisco HWY 1 to Fort Bragg. Its an awesome road. The car preformed excellent. Raced a 2017 Maserati Granturismo. He didn't stand a chance. Mine is turbo charged. His was not. When a Honda Civic SI saw me coming it would simply pull over and a wave a white handkerchief. The Toyota Camry drivers would stare in a state of stunned awe of its black beauty whizzing past them. So many victories in one 100 mile drive its hard to share them all.
Just got mine 2 days ago. Its absolutely FUCKING AMAZING. I just drove 100 miles from CT to NY... I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE LOOKED DOWN AT THE SPEEDOMETER AND SAW THE NEEDLE AT 110!!! AND IT WAS STILL GOING SMOOTH AND STRAIGHT WITH RAZOR SHARP HANDLING THROUGH LANE CHANGES!!!! I WAS KEEPING UP WITH A PORSCHE PANAMERA!!!
Honestly, these two brands of cars differ in the city and town you live in. So there really is no better car overall. Here in Nevada, with the traffic not terrible and there being a lot of open roads, the si is the biggest and baddest here and the Hyundai dealerships can't sell their Elantra sports and trade them for more Sonatas from LA and San Diego where the Elantra does shine and do better than the si.
I drove Civic si coupe few days ago, car felt great! Very planted, responsive and quick on it's feet. Id say new Civic Si in underrated as far as power/trq goes as it certainly felt more like 220-225hp according to butt dyno 😁
That said, Elantra is much better looking in my opinion, and offers hatchback option in GT sport trim/w 6sp manual with I'm most interested in.
The Civic Si looks like something for a high-school fuc-boi who vapes and does Tik-Tok’s. While the Elantra Sport is for a College Graduate who drove a RSX or 350z for college.😂
Why do people keep comparing the two cars? Isn't the Elantra Sport competing more so with the Civic Sport? Look at the price difference. Also the Elantra does not require premium fuel.
So you shouldn't compare them even though they perform basically the same? The Elantra is just a much better value overall. I guess if you hate leather seats and like spending much more on fuel then the Civic is for you....Oh and the $5K discount on the Elantra over the Civic might not be your thing either huh?
@@jeffreye4537 civic si is faster hands down and had dampers and lsd..
I have the 2018 Elantra Sport DCT and compared to the Civic Si and the GTI its fast. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Ask the people who actually own one.
I know I am kinda late but I purchased exactly same car as you describe. It is a fun car and the quality is amazing. People who talk bad about the elantra is cause is a Honda fan boy or haven't drive one. I'd say feels similar like my older 335i 2008. The elantra has great torque. Specially when sport mode is on.
The Elantra Sport is the perfect car if only it had a mechanical LSD. Would still take it over the ugly civic
All Hyundai’s are ugly
Both is honestly kind of ugly. The Elektra is just way uglier that it actually makes the civic looks good
Hyundai have poor resale value and very underpowered. -_-
The new civic looks like the coolest compact sedan I’ve ever seen in its class.
Civic R is ugly, Si isn't nearly as bad
I just bought a blue 2018 sport with 15k miles. I really enjoy it. I would like to do a level one tune on it to extend the powerband
I'll never understand what the Honda Engineers were thinking when they came up with the styling for the Si. Especially the huge plastic fake air vents. Why can't Honda take a lesson from Audi and BMW in exterior design. Those cars are timeless in their appearance. It's the same with the Accord which looked great before and looks worse in the over styled exterior of the 18.
Well what is the resale value 5 years from now on both these cars? What do you think?
You get that discount upfront on the Hyundai so depreciation isn't really an issue.
The Entertainment System on the Hyundai Elantra won this vote over to the described mess of one that on the Honda Civic. The image of the Elentra also gets a high sway to it as well.
Holy fuck I thought honda used to be the underdog but it's clear the fanboys in the comment section are very upset that this test even took place.
Excellent review! Subbed
How did you get the led headlights in the SI?? Most of the 2017 and 2018 SI are with halogen headlights stock
It's the canadian model
skifree so jealous /.\” in the u.s. the SI only comes with halogen but i wonder would the civic touring headlights fit in the SI since the touring model comes standard with led
Hyundai is so great, amazing blah blah.......Civic is bad, ugly, blah blah... but he choose the Civic.....WTF ????
Did you and I watch the same video? He never gushed that much about the Elantra and he certainly never called the Civic bad. He was definitely much more enthusiastic about the driving experience in the Civic which makes sense why he chose it.
He said the styling, steering, suspension, engine sound, acceleration, interior quality, infotainment of Elantra are great. He said that all of the above except suspension are bad for Civic. May be you should pay more attention while watching videos
Buy a hyundai today sell it the next day and price is half the msrp..ha ha ha..as fast and furious say " Do you think I'll let you roll on a HYUNDAI" ha ha ha ha..
Its simple...he knows what will get him home...
zombie dude yeah cheap Hyundai boy
Honda Civic for sure, is better
good review, excellent speaking
I prefer Honda over Hyundai but the civic looks so fckn ugly
Choke on a thick long bamboo Kung Fu Po
I have the 2019 Elantra Sport, Obviously its modded now but even when it was stock I was gapping the SI :D
Elantra is a decent car in my opinion
"Honda mailed it in with the interior". Bullshit. Honda's interior looks a class above the Elantra which still looks like it's glorifying its econo car roots and is just waiting for a rental company to snatch it up.
agreeed
At the end of the day it's still a hyundai. Japanese over korean any day.
get with the times, jesus christ.
He is Right
More after market support for the civic si, better mpg, better built, better engine, resale value will always be higher than a Hyundai
hyundai getting better, honda getting worse..the elantra gets leather heated seats and navi and costs less.
Actually hyundai will have better resale value cuz honda has been f*cking up in reliability in the past few years.
Very nice review
This is s very nice comparison. If you could have the Hyundai style and with the Honda mechanicals/engineering, you could have a wonderful sedan. I wish you would have commented on the Hyundai 6-speed like you did on the Civic. Thanks for reviewing.
People making fun of his speech is just pure trash.
Ya I don’t know about that butter smooth shifting 6 speed in the civic. My 2018 si seems like it doesn’t shift as smooth as my old 1980 rx7 use to but maybe it still needs to break in just turned 600 miles in the new Si
Why does it seem like every reviewer always talks about how great or new and improved a Hyundai or Kia is but would never choose them over something else. Plus you will never be as excited about anything as Sami is about cars.
Were is the i30 n for us here in the USA?
The si is in a different league than the Elantra when it comes to sporty compact sedans
Yes, the minor leagues.
I wouldn’t even compare the Elantra sport to the si.
Id compare it to the civic sport hatch. They’re around the same price and have about the same power to weight ratio.
Because the si is lighter. Has adaptive suspension and an LSD. it’s not really fair to the Hyundai
I also don’t like the rear of the si but It’s much better than the overall potato shape of the Elantra.
1betterthanyou1 isn’t the si like 25k and the Elantra is 21,650
The civic sport is 21,300
We thought so too and did that comparo in January. We thought the Elantra Sport outguns the Civic Touring, so we brought it back for a rematch with the sportier Civic Si: th-cam.com/video/K9gzsSgVejA/w-d-xo.html
The two perform almost identically. 0-60 is 6.3 in the Civic and 6.6 in the Hyundai. Handling is .97g's for the Honda and .91g's for the Hyundai. Funny thing is when you put similar all season tires on the Civic it drops to 6.7 0-60 and .89 g's on the skidpad as per Car and Driver. The Hyundai comes standard with all season tires. Switch to summer only tires similar to the Civic and the Hyundai will likely equal or best the numbers the Civic puts down. Why wouldn't you compare two cars so equally matched? Is it because the Hyundai offers so much more for much less money? Sorry but the performance is there to match the civic whether you believe it or not.
He got the Elantra mpg stats wrong it’s like 30 mpg combined 25 is city. The Elantra has so many more standard options than the civic
My Elantra shows around 33 mixed. I'm thinking it'll be 36 or 37 mpg highway.
My elantra gt sport was about 9k less than a Honda s.i. also got the bumper to bumper doubled and a 200k 20 yr powertrain.
""It's so buttery and slick"" 😂
Both are nice..but I'll probably be getting a new wrx or gti. The Civic and Elantra both just have the punch the should've given us under the hood.
Both of those cars will cost you at least $7K or $8K more than I paid for my Elantra Sport. They should be faster right?
You can’t stand to look at the civic but it’s the one you’d choose? That’s like saying hey girl I can’t stand how ugly you are but I still want your number
If I may. I own a 2012 Elantra which is nothing really special, but is the most reliable car that I have ever owned and I've owned every kind of make that ever has been. I believe that the Korean market has become the new benchmark and I'll explain why. Toyota, Datsun or say Nissan and Mazda who've I owned and every American make that there is to own has not measured up to the standards of what Hyundai has demonstrated to the highest standards expected to backing up their vehicles under warranty coverage or moral for that matter. There company as a whole is nothing that stands out so to speak, but any company that tries to put their best foot forward is the best to choose from. Look at Toyota, they were not so hot in their beginning years and yet they have never offered a 100,000 mile warranty on any of their vehicles or any other company for that matter. Where else can you get a coverage on any other vehicle other than Hyundai? I'm right at 187,000 miles on my 2012 Elantra and only have had an air bag spring sensor problem which costed less than $300.00 and that's it. I have seen on line of a record of 405,000 miles and even over 650,000 miles on this car design with very few problems. The Elantra to me is just breaking ground with real performance and I'm willing to hold out for something better, such as a history of reliability and an increase in horsepower and torque and a all wheel drive system that surpasses Ford's Focus RS design. The Hyundai Elantra is just beginning to break ground and move forward to something a whole lot more for your hard earned dollar. This is a company that not only aims to provide more than one option for performance of a standard transmission but a duel clutch automatic transmission as well since I'm a below the knee amputee and yes I know how to drive a standard as well, but it's nice to have the option.
www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/hyundai-elantra-1-million-miles/
I will go for hyundai
Two days ago I saw a new honda civic si sitting in a parking lot with a giant puddle of oil under it.
Does that si have led headlights???
If looks is that top in your priority list, then just get the Civic Si coupe. At the moment, the Civic is clearly a better car than the Hyundai. I applaud the Koreans for their efforts though, its a nice car.
I will go for honda civic
The SI Honda had the Touring headlights where they extra?
Bo Rerun Canadian model
Did he just said the "exhaust sound droney" ...funny review. I can't take this reviewer seriously.
I just want to hear him say: 6,666% 😂
This is like comparing an iphone to a huawei. Both cars perform well but price difference would always matter because you get what you pay for.
eh, not really. I had an Si before my elantra. the build quality in the Si is MARGINALLY better. most wouldn't even notice.
Damn Canadian spec with standard LED headlights :(
MrWesQ I noticed that too.
The US almost always gets gypped sadly.
doesn't come in red in canada...but orange
Premium gas with the civic si 👎 Elantra gets the mpg, only downside no lsd
Well the civic can’t stand ur looks either
The gauge cluster in the Honda is okay considering it is a digital screen, but I would much prefer analog gauges.
Hondas are so over rated.
BBdecool1 because you're a hater
European cars are overrated as hell. Literally all European cars are coveted even if they’re unreliable as fuck.
Clous von lol!!! true!! But full disclosure....I love the type R
Joe Black lol!!!! You're so funny. And yes the corolla is pretty awful! Glad I don't have one.
Kado Lee agreed
Honda>Hyundai/Kia fact
Resale value will tell you which is the best.
The Elantra Sport isn't an Si competitor. The Elantra is more of a Civic Sport HB and Sentra Nismo competitor.
Check out the excellent comparison on "The Straight Pipes". They are direct competitors. Performance is almost identical.
Wrong! The ES keeps right up with the Si in every aspect. Car and Driver actually tested an Si with all season tires and it performed worse than the Hyundai does on it's standard all season tires. The Honda ONLY has an advantage when it has summer only tires. The Hyundai also performs this close to the Si on REGULAR GAS. Last I checked it is 60 cents more per gallon for super unleaded. OUCH! And my mileage has been about 33 mpg mixed around town. 36-37 mpg should easily be achievable on a highway trip. The EPA is way low on these cars. Car and Driver actually admitted that as well. There goes another supposed big advantage to the Civic. Sorry you Civic fans can't handle the facts but there they are....
He hates the civics look from interior and exterior because he "thinks" they're ugly. I "think" that the dude doesn't really make a great car review video. How can you like the sporty growl of the Elantra, but also have that be a negative to it? Pretty sure if you love how something sounds, you'd want to hear it all the time. Redline Reviews are better.
civic better、
I thought that only in my country people thinks Honda is the best. Also in my country Hondas are called "podadoras" spanish for lawnmower
Does the Civic still grind gears like my 8th Gen Si?
Dang I miss the old days when people in the media HAD to SPEAK CRYSTAL CLEARLY!
if only these came with an auto option
They Hyundai comes with the optional DCT 7 speed AT. Manuals are much more fun though.
Honda way better
And Honda for the win. Put the elantra in the crusher
I guess have bad taste in car appearance but as a 34 year old man I love the new civics design
'...it's the car I'd choose...' -Autoguide reviewer
'You have chosen wisely'- SI owner
people are just relying on company's name and are not seen the big picture. Civic SI has been out for a while in contrast with the Elantra, which just came out this year. Korean manufactures, in general, are becoming the new reliable products for consumers, they are developing better products period. Korea is leading in reliability and product quality compare to Japan. I love both cars but I have to admit that Honda is not like it was before. People are just afraid to accept changes and they rely only on brand's name, not seen the fact that their products are not the same anymore.
just in case. Here is an article of many articles stating my OWN OPINION! fortune.com/2015/06/29/korean-japanese-cars-quality/
The way he talks is sexy. And who would buy a Hyundai over a Honda. Unless its like an equass or genesis
The Elantra is better looking. Much cleaner look, but lacks the pop of the Honda
Nissan TitanWarrior it looks like a Dodge dart...
Don’t bully the civic Elantra is ugly!
AlienNinjaPuppy I like the dodge darts design.
Is this a REAL COMPARISON?
LMAO!!!
Let me guess, after 3 year the Honda will be worth around 16k to 18k and the Hyundai 8k to 10k well if your lucky.. yeah no thank you! I will keep the civic
Brian Vtec if the Honda is so good, why would you want to sell it? You have to remember, I can buy a $25k MSRP Elantra Sport with infinity audio, blind spot warning and more for $17k plus taxes and fees. So why would the car be worth more than what I paid for it new? Try that with your Si.
FudgeRevolution I buy and sell cars in the side, and I won’t buy Hyundai’s to make money.. I usually buy Hondas and Toyota’s... same thing with Kia... I can still sell a 2004 Honda Civic for 4K man! I’m been doing this for a while and all my costumers are happy with their cars :)
FudgeRevolution and good for you! And Hyundai is your thing go for it man! Buy whatever makes you happy!
The Civic will not be worth 16k to 18k after 3 years. More like 13k. Elantra sport will be like 11-12k. Try again.
Kevin Covington you make me laugh lol I just sold a 2014 civic for 17k with 30k miles... number talks man...
There’s no way Elentra looks better then new civic
get your eyes checked
si!!! it look so good
Elantra is great
You sound like a Honda fanboy
I’ll take the Elantra. From a honduh guy
I am pretty disappointed with the Civic SI, it should have 240 horsepower, Leather interior, it is not any different from the regular Civic anymore
Akhil Bolla it does have 240 bhp because it's rated 205whp.
Um no it's not. If it has that power to the wheels, 0-60 in 6.3 is embarrassing.... Plus the Elantra Sport keeps pace with it with 201 HP and they didn't rate that at the wheels.
Hyundai the underdog always root for the underdog