Umpire calls a perfect game in the World Series, a breakdown
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That segment when you discussed Hoberg aligning himself with the catcher should be part of every umpires annual training.
Yeah as much as people say you shouldn't have older umps. It probably doesn't have to do with ability as long as their eyesight isn't going. It's probably that a lot of the older umps are stuck in their old ways, and aren't adapting to newer, better umping techniques. So some older umps can be really good, even if most are kinda bad now.
@@panner11 100% agree with this , too many people just say old umps when that’s not the problem
Unfortunately, a lot of training camps and schools will tell you setting yourself up like Hoberg is "wrong". I've been to a handful of camps and only one instructed us to get in a position where we can best see the ball. It's absolutely goofy
This was taught to all umpires whenever they started it's not hard but the amount of times I see umpires out of position in mlb cause they don't want to get hit or something is insane angel blindnandez is one of the most blatantly bad positioned umpires in the entire mlb behind the plate
Hoberg was adjusting what the slot is with every pitch. Umpires taught by outdated method seem to stay in the far end of the slot and just sticking there.
It’s honestly insane that it’s even possible to be this accurate considering on every close pitch the catcher is basically trying to lie to you and it has to be tiring bending down and keeping focus just like a player for a full nine innings with less of a break than anyone else on the field
Batters also can sell calls as well
It’s amazing. He in it 100%s Umpires should be paid by accuracy. Higher accuracy. Higher pay. This ump. Deserves a BIG bonus for being perfect in the World Series. He should also have a very nice salary. He’s well worth it
@@Olsenator fr but with all the unions making sure that since some umps have worked for the mlb longer they should have a job it makes it harder to get rid of blind umps
@Jason-rp3jg are there any catchers who do?
The thing is it really should have nothing to with the catcher or the batter. He should solely be focused on when the ball crosses the plate. The strike zone really should never changes regardless of the batters size or stature.
jimmy editing his face into other faces will never stop being nightmare fuel, and I love it
It's what I look forward to the most in each video :D
It is creepy! But I cannot look away!! LOL
I hate it so much, but I never click away
Can you time stamp example. Edit: Never mind, I just wasn’t far enough into the video.
@@The_ZeroLine most of the time i do. I just didn't
What makes this even more impressive is that he did so against two of the very best framing catchers in the game
what's a framing catcher?
@@saquibc framing is when the catcher tries to lie to the umpire by catching a ball outside the zone but moving the glove back into the zone before becoming still
@@masonhoover165 this is why I'm not a fan of moving to a robo ump. That is a skill that will be lost.
@@gdn86 exactly.. and the pitches that have never been strikes will become strikes. Yelich had a opinion on it in an interview earlier this year.
It’s not impressive to simply take proper position to effectively call the game.
Jomboy low-key making us watch every pitch of the game without us realizing it 🤣
delete this they will catch on
Bro imagine if the pitcher didn’t take a minute to throw every pitch. Baseball games would take an hour and a half
@@mcray0309 pitchers are not machine guns. takes a lot of effort to throw a ball that hard. a few seconds of rest in between is necessary.
@@RLucas-qp4yc this is why I'm not crazy about the clock they're enforcing in 2023.
@@Obi1Classic the clock gives plenty of time to recover from each pitch, plus you sit between innings, and you also get a limited number of extensions.
What a superstar! It's so easy to shit on bad umpires but when you see one who's doing his job well, no one notices. This guy deserves all the praise he gets and I hope he gets more
“A good umpires name is not known”
So he deserves the ultimate praise for doing what he's required to do?
@@zackattack7103if he’s the only one doing it then obviously yes
@@zackattack7103 He is required to do a good job. He did a great job. Almost everyone gets praised when they do their job great.
@@zackattack7103positive reinforcement is extremely important in behaviour modification. Nobody likes their good work going unrecognized.
was hoping this would get recognized, what a game for Hoberg, part of a good list of newer umpires in the league. not all umpires are as bad as Angel, guys!
They all do lol it's called being in the slot
He is actual a buster no cap th-cam.com/video/vMOHbV7Eqic/w-d-xo.html
Mans need to be the HIGHEST paid umpire
The first umpire said, “Some’s balls and some’s strikes and I calls ‘em as they is.” The second umpire said, “Some’s balls and some’s strikes and I calls ‘em as I sees ‘em.” While the third umpire said, “Some’s balls and some’s strikes, but they ain’t nothin’ till I calls ‘em.”
Can we get this man a raise or something! Played baseball for 12 years and this was fantastic to watch, especially during the world series.
The amount of work that went into this breakdown is incredible.
Well done on Liking the Thing
Keep glorifying umpires doing a good job🗣️
And keep trashing Angel Hernandez
No, trash them as much as possible, and then we get robots.
Keep focusing on umps and not players who willfully don’t try: Not leaving the box, watching pop-flies, not tagging up on sacs.
‘S funny.
But yeah. Umps are the problem.
While it lasts … 😊
2024 is coming, and I don’t care what anyone says: ROBOTS PLZ FIX MLB!!!
"Balls that ANYONE would call a ball" is quite prophetic after coming here after Angel Hernandez blew those calls
My mom has a friend who is best buds with Pat so he sent me some of his gear and we are still in touch. It was awesome to see him have such a great performance
Tell Pat that his perfect game was the best part of the World Series!
If thats true: send him to this video and the comment section. I guess most umps avoid YT because 90% of videos just showcase umps mistakes. He should see that there are plenty of people out there who love to see an ump doing a fantastic job!
@@channelone110 I guess most umps haven't even heard of TH-cam, gd dinosaurs
The amount of effort Jomboy puts into editing and commentating on these videos even though he's so successful is amazing. Also great job blue!
Well done on Liking the Thing
What an incredible performance need to give credit when credit is due
What about this th-cam.com/video/vMOHbV7Eqic/w-d-xo.html
Agreed
Met amd Yankee fans agreeing! Wonderful thing
I remember watching this game and by the 4th inning I kept thinking this guy hadn’t missed a single call. Glad to see him getting recognition
congrats to that man for giving other umps a good name, people dont understand how hard it is to call games at professional speed
I disagree, he showed how good they can and should be. If they suck they suck and need to be removed.
@@ginger_nosoul yes i do agree with you, but their job is still very difficult and they are under a lot of pressure. The garbage ones should go, but if they make 5 bad calls we should cut them some slack. 10 or more bad calls and they should be gone. we cant expect perfection from an ump, just like we cant expect a perfect game out of a pitcher every time
@@guy_in_suit you put it very well, at that speed only the smallest thing will ruin everything! Thanks for understanding! Best wishes!
Yea, it’s hard to be a ref. Even if you get calls right, people still give you shit. You’re always the bearer of bad news
Hell it’s a nightmare at little league speeds. Not that any of these armchair experts have actually done it at any level.
As a Phillies fan I watched most of the WS, and I was extremely impressed with every home plate umpire. Nothing egregious, in my eyes, the whole series. They got some really close calls correct without hesitation. Kudos to the umps who worked this series.
Imagine that, no Angel to be found!
@@harryeichelberger4799 I didn't recognize a single name of any umps in the WS. That is a good thing lol.
Same here as a Phillies fan. Kudos to them.
Boo astros
@@captainnutsack8151 I think we should know the good ones and the bad ones
This man hasn’t umpired a single game this year and the league accused him of gambling, which he denies. Punish the best, don’t touch the guys calling strikes 5 inches outside of the zone
Well, he didn't gamble on baseball but it's still breaking the rules if you bet on a different sport in a baseball facility which is what he most likely did
I’m a Phillies fan, when I was watching this game I found that I wasn’t frustrated in the slightest despite them losing, I didn’t understand why until someone pointed out how good he was. It is truly amazing how frustrating the umpires make the game when your team can’t hit.
I gotta say, Jomboy's really made me appreciate baseball more with how in-depth he goes with his analysis.
Yeah theres a lot more to it than most people acknowledge
Great job. Like you said, batters just want consistency. Throw in calling the pitches correctly and you have a special umpire. Give that man a raise.
I vaguely remember reading an interview with some player where they said something like "the strike zone is arbitrary. It's made up. All I care about is that it's the same for everyone."
@@santumi2298 Yup, it's pretty much unanimous amongst players. It's hard to hit a ball if you don't know what close pitches to swing at and what pitches to play off of.
The fact that we praise an umpire for doing something a machine does perfectly every time, shows that soon umpires will be replaced.
I mean --- insane analysis here. Found that only 54 pitches actually matter and furthermore the breakdown on the very minute differences on those. Absolutely incredible work to make this piece.
This is one of my favorite breakdowns ever. I really hope that JonBoy does more good umping breakdowns.
Need more good umping performances!
Rare to see a game as good as this, but it would be good for Baseball for it to be recognized that it can, and is, called well. This would give more credibility to shaming of umpires that are not as good. I want to know why they are bad. I am sure they don't want to be bad.
Your analysis is incredible. I've never seen anything like it. Here's how that's important to me: it's brought me back to baseball after I defected due to the 1994-1995 strike. Sure, I've watched this game that I have truly loved since I was a kid. Mostly World Series and playoffs. But, since I found your approach using this media, I find my love reinvigorated. I'm even looking at baseball cards again. I don't know what to say, other than, "thank you." I mean it. You are of baseball. Like Harry Caray. That may be goofy, but that goofball loved the sport as much as anyone ever. You know, like you seem to.
I feel the same way. I've been a fairweather fan for quite some time now but Jomboy has at least made it my #2 sport behind hockey. He knows the game better than most
He did the same in a game against mariners and our local radio hosts were praising him. He is amazing.
This is a top 20 most impressive baseball feat. Like I mean that absolutely seriously, considering how hard it is to umpire.
Man that is so tough. I've ump'd behind the plate and it's not easy at all. You have to be positioned well and have good eyes that don't blink when the pitch comes. And have a lot of trust.
It’s so fun to watch someone who excels at what they do. So satisfying and just great to see someone doing their thing really well.
Great to see an excellent Umpire rewarded by getting to call World Series game. And great analysis by Jomboy on his perfect game. 💪
Getting picked to work the playoffs is as prestigious for refs/umps as it is for players to make it there. So for Pat to get called up to work the Fall Classic and call a perfect game on the big stage? This is the stuff of legend.
The umpire comparison was fantastic. I never realized they had different techniques to call pitches.
The editing of all these pitches is impressive in itself.
MLB needs more of this. We all know about and hear about the bad umps, but these ump performances need to be just as known.
so thankful we have a breakdown on this
There you go again Jomboy. Bringing another level of enjoyment to watching the game of baseball. Your scorecard on great breakdowns is 98%... nearly legend status. Keep it up.
usually we’re making fun of how bad the calls are but this time it’s a bit more wholesome
The Estimated Umpire Strike Zone (EUZ) generates the consistency rating that Jomboy mentioned a few times through the video. It consideres all the pitches that the umpire called strikes and tries to draw the strike zone based on those calls. The program trying to draw this zone doesn't know what the strike zone actually looks like though, so for really well called games it can get funky. If no pitchers in a game pitch high and away then the EUZ will have a big hole high and away because it believes that a pitch there wouldn't have gotten called for a strike simply because there were no strikes thrown in that spot.
The consistency rating really doesn't matter for very well called games, since it's based on the EUZ, which struggles to properly rate well called games.
When Jomboy mentions any of the pitches that "go against the way he called the rest of the game" he's referring to pitches in the EUZ that were called balls and pitches outside of the EUZ called strikes. Usually this can cause troubles since the EUZ will leave holes in the strike zone if not a lot of pitches are thrown to that spot, and it will extend the strike zone if a lot of pitches are thrown to that spot.
This is quite intriguing.
I was saying to myself "What's the difference between normal and the 'consistency' zone?" but this answers it quite eloquently. I figured near the beginning the consistency rating wasn't useful in this case, but I didn't understand why. Thank you.
thank you for this great explanation. this is exactly what i didn’t know i needed
Dang, this must not happen often, let alone in the World Series.
It has never happened before actually.
@@JohnDoe463 surely it's happened for 150 years of MLB baseball lol. Just hasn't been officially documented.
@@kirihara147 Well, maybe, but we are talking established record. It doesn't matter if in 1889 some dude did it, especially if there is no proof.
@@JohnDoe463 True, but there wasn't pitch-tracking tech in all major parks until 2008.
@@kourii Good point, but can we really assume it has happened if we don't know? I mean I'm sure it has or at least come closer but in the years since we haven't seen one until now so you never know
I was talking to my buddy before the WS started and I was still fresh off the memory of Pat calling a NEAR perfect game with Rockies v Phillies and I was like, “What if the first perfect ump game was in a WS?” It was SO AWESOME seeing it in real time. Hoberg needs a jersey so I can buy one!
Glad you’re hyping this up. I even tried to find the guy on social media so I could thank him. This is huge for our game
You’ve helped me gain true appreciation for baseball. Started watching you a couple years ago at 27. Never disappointed.
Man, I have never watched an entire baseball match in my life, but boy do I enjoy hearing this man talk about this sport!
I just found your channel, and love it! I was never a baseball person, but you’re channel has helped me appreciate and understand baseball more. I do realize that you’re more than a baseball channel, but literally because of your work I’ve been able to connect with some friends and family I’ve never been able to before . Love you’re baseball content, and thanks for giving me some sort of argument 😊
I'm glad that you pointed out the mechanics. Maybe a lesson can be learned by all new umpires.
I guess he didn't have a bet on this game
He never bet on baseball. If he did gamble, it would have been on a different sport while in a baseball facility which for players, results in a one season suspension
oh wow that's really interesting about how Hoberg sets up, as compared to other umpires (as well as the difference it appears to make). I was always taught to keep your head more towards the inside because if you're more centered, there's more of a risk of a foul ball hitting you in the face, whereas if you're more towards the inside, those foul balls will just go over your shoulder and no harm will come. One of the umpires that I know legit wasn't medically cleared to go behind the plate for a little while because he had sustained too many concussions. I've taken some off the face that I later on will have a headache from. I'm not sure if I really want to adjust how I set up though, for that very reason; I'm not trying to put myself any more in harm's way than I already am lol. But it's interesting how with that one umpire, you mention how he didn't really know what was happening on the outside corner, and that he was kinda just guessing sometimes. I feel like that's sometimes the situation I get myself into lol, and I'm definitely known to expand the outside corner a little bit. The inside corner I don't expand as much, for a variety of reasons but one of which could be because my head is right around that spot. For the most part though I feel like I'm consistent with it, and also it's not like I'm doing super high level baseball games anyways, and in fact, most of the time it's gonna be necessary to expand the zone a little bit, to make the game more bearable for everybody involved lol. But that was interesting that you picked that up, and it's something I could potentially do now that I'm aware of it although again I'd lean towards not doing it right now, for the reasons I mentioned.
This is something im sure doesn't get talked about enough. Way to give props where they are due. Always nice to see a positive breakdown
The man was given his chance AND DID NOT DISAPPOINT
Not unlike you, who is such an awful person and TH-camr that it is impossible to even be disappointed anymore
You're a Thorin/RL guy AND a Jomboy guy? You're my spirit youtube channel.
It blows my mind how smart and detailed this video is. Not a breakdown of a brawl or something more "easy" (not that any of their work is easy, but I think you know what I mean). Instead, they produce the smartest breakdown of pitching and baseball that's finely intricate. Jomboy is just the best.
I thought I heard you say in a recent video "this guy didn't miss a call all game"
Been waiting for this.
It's nice to see us finally giving props for umpires doin a good job. Good on you, jomboy
Also worth considering he did this with maldanado and Realmuto catching, maldy is a damn good framer and was actively trying to pull some calls in his favor in the shadow zone JT as well
Umpire competence should be celebrated more than we get outraged at incompetence. Good on you for shining light on these issues.
Love the statistical breakdown of how many pitches they really need to call. Very interesting.
This might actually be the most impressive thing to happen all season. With all the different batters and pitchers and balls thrown, to not miss a single call, not one!, is simply incredible.
@jomboy is the most valuable free agent this year. Any MLB would benefit from his analysis. I imagine all teams have guy like him breaking down video and chasing theory, but this dude thinks about baseball and video different than the rest of us.
A perfectly called game in a World Series, congrats Pat Hoberg! Kudos to you Jomboy for highlighting this, I hope the umps see this video.
At 58, I totally enjoy your breakdown videos. I've watched ball games for many years and appreciate you point of view on situations I would have never thought to consider
There are good umpires out there. I think usually they just get over shadowed by the horrible ones.
for sure lol
That and even if you make 50 good calls, all it takes is one bad one for people to blow up on you.
It's an impossible job. You (usually) only get recognized when you screw up.
CB bucknor, Adrian Johnson, Vic carapaza, Jordan baker, Ramon dejesus, angel Hernandez, doug Eddings, Ron kulpa, Laz Diaz, etc there’s a lot that are bad.
That's union work for you.
Masterful. The ump, Jimmy, and the editing team.
Damn good job, everyone.
The ump was sensational but this video is proof that Jomboy will do anything but breakdown an Astros win
He breaks down emotionally when the Astros win
Mannnnnn thank you for the lesson.
This game is sooo beautiful for exactly this reason… imho… if you let it… it will teach you and expand your awareness of the art and science of the game.
Watching this segment simply reminded me of my truth and testimony as a former player and as a lifelong fan-lover of this game.
I love the way it unveils new understandings and deeper appreciation for this craft and those who practice it.
Jomboy thank you for your dedication as caretaker of the game. This baseball lover is grateful for “Living Game guides like you.
Tipping my cap to today’s #BaseballBrilliance #BaseballGriot #BaseballMonk #JomboyGems
The edit of Jimmy as a baseball is so good 😂
Okay and the one of him in Hoberg’s eyes was terrifying so thanks Jimmy
Greg Gibson is the husband of my ex math teacher. His wife is the meanest person on the planet. He flexes about being an MLB umpire a lot.
Free HOBERG
I looooooove how in depth this breakdown is, please keep doing these in the off-season
I love this breakdown. I’ve always said that when an ump does bad everyone notices and when he does well nobody notices. This ump was amazing in this game and he deserves tons of credit.
I like it when any professional is serious about their sport and their job, excellent job by Pat and a huge appreciation JomBoy For the great statistical report, both of you deserve medals
Great job, Blue. We won't need robots if we can get more officials like you.
Man deserves a bonus….I’m talking about Jomboy of course, for working so hard and going so in depth just for the love of the game. Very admirable
It's not just the players looking for a perfect performance out there! Props to Hoberg on being laser focused during that game, especially since it was a WS game
This is great! People always talk about bad umpires but there are lots of amazing ones that do a great job!
Much deserved shine for an amazing performance 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 thanks for highlighting it Jomboy 🐐
These videos are immensely useful for people who aren't familiar with the game to understand the artistry behind what the players are doing. The role of the catcher and umpire are explained very well as a side product of this video.
Been looking forward to this breakdown since hearing about this umpire's game. Congrats to him on both his efforts and the result. Like you said, they need to change how they choose who gets behind the plate.
A little context on where umpires align their head - we are trained to work in that area between the batter and catcher (called the slot) for safety. A foul tip straight back off the handle of the bat vs a foul rip off the barrel have significantly different velos and “working the slot” has been big in lowering concussion trauma for umpires. That being said, the way he moves with the catcher and “locks in” late but still is able to be completely stationary for the call. Absolutely textbook. Beautiful game by a great umpire
Did Hoberg ever play at a competitive level like college or above? I would love to see his walk rate, I bet he had a damn good eye.
This game was crazy. Ump did an awesome job. You love to see baseball just being played with no excuses.
Edit: Stop the political war in the replies please 😂
I'd love to see jomboy finally denounce trump and his terror attack on the capitol on 1/6 with no excuses too but I guess that's asking too much....
@@EyeOfThePhi maybe a little too much 😅
@@EyeOfThePhi probably because this is a sports breakdown channel, not a political channel. You are a 🤡
@@EyeOfThePhi he’s not a political analyst
And your claim is founded on leaving out key information anyway.
@@mbdg6810 oh. I didn't realize you had to be a "political analyst" to know that right-wing terrorism is bad? Hmmmmmm 🤔
Love seeing people doing work at the best of their ability. Well done.
Be nice to have more umps like him, I really do not want robot umps
This is my favorite video from this channel! Calling games like this is a craft….a high stakes, make up your mind in half a second, all eyes and ears on you craft. I’m sure it’s not the first perfect game by an umpire, but this man needs to be glorified as a hero for this one!
It probably isn't but it's the first since we started keeping track.
Just from seeing his stance and the bad umps’ stance, seems like not having to use your hands against your legs to keep you up and knees bent matters a lot. Good knees/core and good back.
This Ump got real love and respect for the sport.
worst thing when umpire/ref tries to make it his own game. Best ref is that no one talks about after a game.
Nice to see ump that cares and is showing professionalism, not lazy setting up in the same spot no matter the position of the catcher/batter.
Great to see him getting the recognition he deserves
Back in the day, pitchers like Glavine and Maddux would slowly increase the strike zone, little by little. It was wonderful to witness. They basically performed a magic trick on the umps
Let’s Go Astros!!!
4:11 even the player was shaking his head yes lol, like “you right, you right”
Absolutely love this, umpires get so much flack (usually rightly so), it's refreshing to see an exceptional performance celebrated. Outstanding breakdown as always Jomboy, I especially liked the comparison of how he gets into position.
I don't even like baseball but I like watching Jomboy break it down.
Jomboy making a video about an ump doing their job right as a special event.
This dude should be behind the plate in every playoff round through the WS.
A 10 minute breakdown. God really does answer prayers
this guys kids and or grandkids are so proud of their gramps making it onto JOMBOY!! lets keep praising umps for doing good!!
This is the first time I have heard of an umpire having a perfect game. I have seen my dad umpire at the High School level for a few years here in Minnesota before becoming my baseball coach, but I never really paid attention to how he operated, but I do know that he never had a player or coach argue balls and strikes. I have seen them argue safe or out calls however.
There is a great amount of stress calling behind the plate. On the other hand their calls very rarely get reviewed in real time. Only weeks later on jomboy’s channel. I got a torn retina from taking too many hits to the mask. Three surgeries later still can’t call. The game I love to call may be over.
An umpire that people appreciate, actually incredible
This is unbelievable. We need more videos praising good umps. We need to know about the Anti-Angel Hernandez's
It's a little deceptive, being that the catcher is a few feet behind the plate. I wish we had a side view of where the pitch crosses the plate 💕👍
This video is great. It exposes the wrong technique taught to umps. Umps are trained to line up inside corner and NOT to move. Let your eyes move to call outside corner. I was a long time catcher and short time ump and I've always said this is wrong. You have to glide your head over to see the outside corner. It's subtle, but way more accurate way to see the outside pitches. Well done Jomboy.