I wouldn't disregard _not fit for drinking_ signs. It can sometimes come from tanks on the premises which don't get cleaned out and that can get pretty skanky or there are still some premises which have at least some part of their plumbing system that hasn't been updated and still contains _some_ lead pipework.
Good to know mate, thanks for the advice, I'll pin this comment so other know, I never thought about old piping and water coming from tanks, cheers mate 👍🏻👊🏻😊
@@TheUrbanMotorhome (as one example) Some hot water systems use a cold water header tank to store water in the roof space to feed the hot water system. While it's not considered best practice, it's not unheard of to tap into the pipework before the hot water cylinder for a cold water feed to an outhouse or similar. This is fine for washing your hands, and at a pinch boiling for a cup of tea, but you wouldn't want to drink it directly given that they are often uncovered and that every plumber has a story or at least knows someone who has a story of finding a dead pigeon or mouse in one of those tanks.
I don't know why you were worried about graveyards because they're just tapped into the water main, you don't drink in the water from the ground I used them often :-)
Most Canal service facilities have water taps outside and there are water taps along the canal towpath, service stations and water points are listed on the CRT website and most are next to a road
not many of the garages in that town have taps still connected now your very lucky. hope it lasts. if ever you want to check if water is on mains or from a tank (tank being potentially dangerous) try putting your finger over the tap end to stop the flow. if mains you will not be able to stop the flow. if tank fed you will be able to stop the flow. apparently.
The easiest way to check if it's drinking water or water from a tank is to put your thumb over the tap while running. If your thumb stops the water it's tank water, and if it can't stop the water it's fresh from the pipe as the pressure is too much for your thumb to stop it. 🙂👍
I like this, this is a very easy test to do, I just have one question, don't the tanks have pumps fitted to the line to pump the water out the tap giving it the same pressure or similar as main line?
The reason for not drinking water signs is because the water has been softened. There is a very small chance someone could have an allergic reaction to the softening chemical. If you use a tap at a cemetery or sports ground ect always run the tap well first. Catch the first bit in a clear container, if it looks yellowey it may contain Legionella which can be fatal. Best to run an infrequently used tap for three minutes to be safe. Must public buildings should flush Thier taps regularly to comply with Legionella legislation as they can be fined if there is an outbreak. Personally I would use a graveyard as long as the tap is flushed well before use. It's dead quiet and the residents don't complain!!
Hiya , if you’re a member of the camping and caravan club, you can use their sites to service your van, empty grey,toilet and fill with fresh water for a small fee. I think it’s £5. Not sure about caravan and motorhome sites as we’re not members of that club. Great vlog as usual. 👏👏
i think regardless of the water i would put into my fresh tan, mine will still run through a filtration system, under the sink. i get a funny tummy even drinking tap water in different areas, especially portsmouth, its just pure chalk and limescale.
As has been stated it can only be classified as drinking water if it comes direct from the mains instead of via a storage tank. This used to be a much bigger issue in the past when the storage tank may have been of rusty steel instead of modern plastic. When the Health Inspector called at Fawlty Towers he found a dead pigeon floating in the water tank (Ok I know thats fiction but it could actually happen) Even if the tank is covered the chlorine in the water evaporates off allowing bacteria to grow. So it really depends on how much water is being used and flowing through the tank to keep it clean By the same logic the water stored in a motorhome storage tank can't be classified as drinking water, wherever it came from.
Hey mate. I've found that a lot of public buildings like council offices have external taps. Also, look out for taps in parks, especially if they have a decent floral display. They have to get their water from somewhere. Most council gardeners are pretty helpful, especially if you offer a cuppa in exchange 😏
Water bottles! You temptress!! : D : D I found two more around the van and bought a new one yesterday! so that's now 14, I need help !!!! Thanks for another fun video.
Not Drinking Water usually means its water that's been held in a tank and is not directly from the mains supply. It's OK for topping up a vehicle or washing a windscreen or rinsing something off but I wouldn't be using taps like that for drinking !
We had legionella test kits on site which were done monthly as the water was fed from a tank. Signs were in place and there was no access to the public but no one needed to be ill. think the kits are still available
I think the biggest problem with contamination of water is either old lead pipes or people contaminating the actual tap, probably the worst of the two sources of contamination. Probably doesn’t hurt to carry an antibacterial spray or wipes to clean the tap before using and as you say draw plenty water from the tap before using the water.
I fill two 70litre tanks and then use a Zero water filter pitcher and keep it in the fridge. I also rent a barn to keep my tools where I have access to a tap.
We only drink bottled water or freshwater tap water on-site. albeit when we fill our motor home with water I drop in two or three water-purifying tablets in the tank? best wishes ken
hi daz why do you not have a water key for the main in the street also you can empty your toilet in the main sewer while your at it just wear a high vise and no one will say anything
I've answered this question many times, heres an old video, I'll do an updated video soon. Thanks for watching th-cam.com/video/lD5rgDh8CMg/w-d-xo.html
Hi Philip, I get this question a lot as you can imagine, heres an old video, I'll do an updated video soon. Thanks for watching th-cam.com/video/lD5rgDh8CMg/w-d-xo.html
We sometimes top at a relatives. We have learnt to be really tight arsed with it so it lasts a week. I buy bottled for cooking and drinking, we dont entirely trust our water system. If there is a public tap we use it. Water cost £1.832 per cubic metre!! It costs just 18p to fill a tank on a moho for 100 litres. We are vastly overcharged on the UK for everything.
@@vickyb6588 I certainly don’t , quite opposite, if it had been as simple to join the community fifty yrs ago I’d be there. Bit too old now and health prevents such dreams.
@@pageant1fd I’m glad for you being in a position to be able to afford to live in a property, many are struggling to do this right now and I don’t believe they should be made homeless or just hope the council will help them if they can find another way.
@@vickyb6588 my late wife and I worked hard to clear our mortgage before retiring and we then bought our motorhome , enjoying long months touring. I do remember those early days struggling with costs . It’s not a recent 2020’s issue paying the mounting bills . But better to go into old age with memories rather than unfulfilled dreams ; yes ?
I just personally wouldn’t drink the water purely because over the years I’ve seen people let the dogs drink from taps, I just buy big bottle of water for drinking..
Hi we are newbies to motorhoming (60s) and would like to go to a festival can you recommend one for us please.we live near Preston and when we look at Warner shows it’s very confusing.We have learned a lot watching your vlogs so any help will be much appreciated 😊
Zip ties will hold in push button taps. Flexible rubber hose connectors and every Tap hose Connector you can find are in a storage box to get water. I Also have Plumbers keys and Lifting keys for removal of manhole covers to get rid of Black waste. Drinking water i keep in two 10 litre water tanks in passenger foot well next to the door. My Motorhome is 20 years old i do not trust the old tank and pipe work for drinking water.
Can I ask, I always feel a bit guilty to buy bottled water, I’ve reduced buying it from around 12 litres a week to 1 litre only and that’s the carbonated one as like a bit of fizz sometimes, I do see some people wheeling trolly loads out the supermarkets as I used to do so no judgement just wondered if others feel guilty about bottled water, single use plastic and environment issues, if someone could make me not feel guilty, as do prefer bottled water 🤷♂️😂
water with do not drink is normally stored in the building and can be contaminated ie rats falling in bird poo ect ect yes it will be filled from a pressurised clean source but as it is stored it yo cant be sure hope this helps
A few people like yourself have said about water tanks, this is new to me, are they really that common these days? I never knew places had them and stored the water when they have a fresh main line in. Thank for the info Gary
@@TheUrbanMotorhome normally found in older multistory buildings but if they have signs saying not potable/drinking water its because the supply is from a tank(normally) you could still fill your tanks but I would boil the water but this would mean you could contaminate your tanks
That's brilliant! I wish there were more places like that, would make things a lot easier and I'm happy to pay/donate a couple of quid each time. I forgot about marina's I'll keep an eye out for them 👍🏻😊
You can get them keys from Tesco £1 and the pound store .had mine for years .a lot of church’s have-stop people taking Walter . My BP have taken the tap water away now 😢. 🤠👍
@@TheUrbanMotorhome no idea why they take tap out completely . U.K. is getting ready bad . I remember years ago someone told me that it’s legal not to give people who need and arks for water to give them water. If you understand that. I guess when you think about it Walter is our life we need it with out it we will die 😢
good lord I didn't realise people were that weird about cemeteries. It's just water, it's not filtered through dead bodies, they aren't about to leap up and vampire you ffs.
We use aquatabs if we fill up any place other than at home. For drinking we use the tank water in a Brita filter jug that fits into our fridge door. No need for those Burco boiler-looking monstrosities. 😂
Great info but we need to remember that someone is paying for that supply mate. Garages pubs and even your mums garage supply comes out the pockets of others. No offence Daz but would been nice if you’d of added that in the vlog.
Hi mate, I totally get that 100% but like I said in the video, I ask the pub and the garage so if they didn't want me to they can say no there and then and if they say yes I think it's safe to assume they are ok with that. As for the local garages me and my family have rented them for years with them putting the cost up each year and giving nothing more in return not even maintenance so taking some water here and there I don't feel bad about at all. That and the fact that I see many many people (who do rent a garage) using them taps to wash their cars again at least i'm pulling the water to good use, rather than down the drain with added chemicals. All that being said if there was a service at any of these places or anywhere else like they have in europe that you can put a £1 in and get 5 mins or X litres of water I'd happily pay.
So Pageant, do you live in a van full time? Where do you get yours from? Do you find places where you pay everytime? We are full time, always happy to pay for a drop of water but its not simple in the UK without a 30quid a night campsite.
@@ArianneAvalon carrying a key to help yourself is ok? I spend three or four months a year in my motorhome, once or twice a week calling at campsites for a night for top ups and tank emptying. My point is that the minority have caused this problem for full timers…..aim your comments at them .
I wouldn't disregard _not fit for drinking_ signs. It can sometimes come from tanks on the premises which don't get cleaned out and that can get pretty skanky or there are still some premises which have at least some part of their plumbing system that hasn't been updated and still contains _some_ lead pipework.
Good to know mate, thanks for the advice, I'll pin this comment so other know, I never thought about old piping and water coming from tanks, cheers mate 👍🏻👊🏻😊
@@TheUrbanMotorhome (as one example) Some hot water systems use a cold water header tank to store water in the roof space to feed the hot water system. While it's not considered best practice, it's not unheard of to tap into the pipework before the hot water cylinder for a cold water feed to an outhouse or similar. This is fine for washing your hands, and at a pinch boiling for a cup of tea, but you wouldn't want to drink it directly given that they are often uncovered and that every plumber has a story or at least knows someone who has a story of finding a dead pigeon or mouse in one of those tanks.
Are you still rocking that ugly beard?!
those handy little service keys are sometimes useful for popping open the lids of public waste disposal bins if you need to deposit bags of trash
7:04 Thanks for this tip, only yesterday l got a black bin bag "stuck" in a park bin. You've just made my full time van life a bit easier .
What's wrong with a graveyard or cemetery? 😁
Lovely people, quiet, no complaining easy going. Perfect!
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I can only fill my autocruise campervan with a hose it has a fitting on so can't pour in. So need a tap. It's very difficult finding place with a tap.
I don't know why you were worried about graveyards because they're just tapped into the water main, you don't drink in the water from the ground I used them often :-)
Don’t knock the graveyards. Best park up in Arcachon, France was in the city cemetery.
Most Canal service facilities have water taps outside and there are water taps along the canal towpath, service stations and water points are listed on the CRT website and most are next to a road
not many of the garages in that town have taps still connected now your very lucky. hope it lasts. if ever you want to check if water is on mains or from a tank (tank being potentially dangerous) try putting your finger over the tap end to stop the flow. if mains you will not be able to stop the flow. if tank fed you will be able to stop the flow. apparently.
The easiest way to check if it's drinking water or water from a tank is to put your thumb over the tap while running. If your thumb stops the water it's tank water, and if it can't stop the water it's fresh from the pipe as the pressure is too much for your thumb to stop it. 🙂👍
I like this, this is a very easy test to do, I just have one question, don't the tanks have pumps fitted to the line to pump the water out the tap giving it the same pressure or similar as main line?
Not always could be hydraulic pumps coming from a brake tank
A good rule of thumb
Hello Darren great blog. Getting expedition truck soon and may see you at shows soon keep happy Steve
Hi Daz really great video very interesting and informative really looking forward to seeing your next video keep safe 😊👍🏻
The reason for not drinking water signs is because the water has been softened. There is a very small chance someone could have an allergic reaction to the softening chemical. If you use a tap at a cemetery or sports ground ect always run the tap well first. Catch the first bit in a clear container, if it looks yellowey it may contain Legionella which can be fatal. Best to run an infrequently used tap for three minutes to be safe. Must public buildings should flush Thier taps regularly to comply with Legionella legislation as they can be fined if there is an outbreak.
Personally I would use a graveyard as long as the tap is flushed well before use. It's dead quiet and the residents don't complain!!
Good point. I had forgotten about cemeteries 👍
I’m like you I don’t use the onboard water for drinking but use it for washing.
Hiya , if you’re a member of the camping and caravan club, you can use their sites to service your van, empty grey,toilet and fill with fresh water for a small fee. I think it’s £5. Not sure about caravan and motorhome sites as we’re not members of that club. Great vlog as usual. 👏👏
i think regardless of the water i would put into my fresh tan, mine will still run through a filtration system, under the sink. i get a funny tummy even drinking tap water in different areas, especially portsmouth, its just pure chalk and limescale.
As has been stated it can only be classified as drinking water if it comes direct from the mains instead of via a storage tank. This used to be a much bigger issue in the past when the storage tank may have been of rusty steel instead of modern plastic. When the Health Inspector called at Fawlty Towers he found a dead pigeon floating in the water tank (Ok I know thats fiction but it could actually happen) Even if the tank is covered the chlorine in the water evaporates off allowing bacteria to grow. So it really depends on how much water is being used and flowing through the tank to keep it clean
By the same logic the water stored in a motorhome storage tank can't be classified as drinking water, wherever it came from.
Hey mate. I've found that a lot of public buildings like council offices have external taps. Also, look out for taps in parks, especially if they have a decent floral display. They have to get their water from somewhere. Most council gardeners are pretty helpful, especially if you offer a cuppa in exchange 😏
Water bottles! You temptress!! : D : D I found two more around the van and bought a new one yesterday! so that's now 14, I need help !!!! Thanks for another fun video.
If you don't drink the water you put in the water tank, how about collecting rain water?
This has been very helpful advice 👍
Not Drinking Water usually means its water that's been held in a tank and is not directly from the mains supply. It's OK for topping up a vehicle or washing a windscreen or rinsing something off but I wouldn't be using taps like that for drinking !
We had legionella test kits on site which were done monthly as the water was fed from a tank. Signs were in place and there was no access to the public but no one needed to be ill. think the kits are still available
I think the biggest problem with contamination of water is either old lead pipes or people contaminating the actual tap, probably the worst of the two sources of contamination. Probably doesn’t hurt to carry an antibacterial spray or wipes to clean the tap before using and as you say draw plenty water from the tap before using the water.
I fill two 70litre tanks and then use a Zero water filter pitcher and keep it in the fridge. I also rent a barn to keep my tools where I have access to a tap.
We only drink bottled water or freshwater tap water on-site. albeit when we fill our motor home with water I drop in two or three water-purifying tablets in the tank? best wishes ken
The thing is , before they were a service station, meaning that,.
hi daz why do you not have a water key for the main in the street also you can empty your toilet in the main sewer while your at it just wear a high vise and no one will say anything
Aldi or Lidl for bottled water. Cheaper than branded water.
Do you have any black water tips?
Very good question.not many people will say
I've answered this question many times, heres an old video, I'll do an updated video soon. Thanks for watching
th-cam.com/video/lD5rgDh8CMg/w-d-xo.html
Good tips but where do you empty gray water and toilet
Hi Philip, I get this question a lot as you can imagine, heres an old video, I'll do an updated video soon. Thanks for watching
th-cam.com/video/lD5rgDh8CMg/w-d-xo.html
The water I get get at the church comes out of my taps as wine! Crazy!
😂🤠👍
Good to know 🤔
Thanks for the great tips 👍
We sometimes top at a relatives. We have learnt to be really tight arsed with it so it lasts a week. I buy bottled for cooking and drinking, we dont entirely trust our water system. If there is a public tap we use it. Water cost £1.832 per cubic metre!! It costs just 18p to fill a tank on a moho for 100 litres. We are vastly overcharged on the UK for everything.
My annual home water rates are high but the water company will not give it me for free 🙄
@@pageant1fdthat’s exactly why people are trying to find alternative ways of living, can’t knock them for it.
@@vickyb6588 I certainly don’t , quite opposite, if it had been as simple to join the community fifty yrs ago I’d be there. Bit too old now and health prevents such dreams.
@@pageant1fd I’m glad for you being in a position to be able to afford to live in a property, many are struggling to do this right now and I don’t believe they should be made homeless or just hope the council will help them if they can find another way.
@@vickyb6588 my late wife and I worked hard to clear our mortgage before retiring and we then bought our motorhome , enjoying long months touring. I do remember those early days struggling with costs . It’s not a recent 2020’s issue paying the mounting bills . But better to go into old age with memories rather than unfulfilled dreams ; yes ?
Just looking for motor home insurance any one you can recommend . I Injoy your videos and find them very informative thanks Mike
I just personally wouldn’t drink the water purely because over the years I’ve seen people let the dogs drink from taps, I just buy big bottle of water for drinking..
Hi we are newbies to motorhoming (60s) and would like to go to a festival can you recommend one for us please.we live near Preston and when we look at Warner shows it’s very confusing.We have learned a lot watching your vlogs so any help will be much appreciated 😊
Zip ties will hold in push button taps. Flexible rubber hose connectors and every Tap hose Connector you can find are in a storage box to get water. I Also have Plumbers keys and Lifting keys for removal of manhole covers to get rid of Black waste. Drinking water i keep in two 10 litre water tanks in passenger foot well next to the door. My Motorhome is 20 years old i do not trust the old tank and pipe work for drinking water.
What do you have against graveyards?
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Wus, 😂 get to the cemetery. Get mine from there all the time. It's the living you have to worry about.
Can I ask, I always feel a bit guilty to buy bottled water, I’ve reduced buying it from around 12 litres a week to 1 litre only and that’s the carbonated one as like a bit of fizz sometimes, I do see some people wheeling trolly loads out the supermarkets as I used to do so no judgement just wondered if others feel guilty about bottled water, single use plastic and environment issues, if someone could make me not feel guilty, as do prefer bottled water 🤷♂️😂
Like this video practical 👍
Thanks! 😁👍🏻
Where do you empty your waste
Tesco. £1.50 for 5litre
Work has plenty of water or beaches 👌
We have to warn people if it's from a storage tank
(Not from mains supply)
good to know! I never knew this!
Today's tip: get a divining rod! :)
Brilliant but I get mine from the tap lol hope you are well just could not resist saying TAP best wishes xx
water with do not drink is normally stored in the building and can be contaminated ie rats falling in bird poo ect ect yes it will be filled from a pressurised clean source but as it is stored it yo cant be sure hope this helps
A few people like yourself have said about water tanks, this is new to me, are they really that common these days? I never knew places had them and stored the water when they have a fresh main line in. Thank for the info Gary
@@TheUrbanMotorhome normally found in older multistory buildings but if they have signs saying not potable/drinking water its because the supply is from a tank(normally) you could still fill your tanks but I would boil the water but this would mean you could contaminate your tanks
You should not drink water that comes from a stored water as you don’t know how long it has been there IE from a tank in the loft etc.
good advice 👍🏻
Really useful. Thanks Daz.
No problem 👍😊
We find that a marina is happy for us to top up with fresh water and empty the cassette, for a small charity donation.
That's brilliant! I wish there were more places like that, would make things a lot easier and I'm happy to pay/donate a couple of quid each time. I forgot about marina's I'll keep an eye out for them 👍🏻😊
Canel water points
ahhhh yeah I forgot about these, I've only ever seen a couple 'in the wild' while fishing but there definitely worthing looking out for
Very helpful
Thanks for watching mate 😊
More interested in where you empty your toilet.. 👍🙏🚽
In the English Channel 🤮
He goes to a campsite
@@richtea7868 😂😂😂mong
in a pub car park?
@@ItsOnlyMe247 Here’s me thinking the local farmer was spreading silage...lol....😳
"Hose it in" ... 😂😂😂😂😂 🤦🏻
Great advice thanks
Glad it was helpful! 👍🏻😊
Drinking water as 30 chemical in it.
You can get them keys from Tesco £1 and the pound store .had mine for years .a lot of church’s have-stop people taking Walter . My BP have taken the tap water away now 😢. 🤠👍
That's a bargain! I didn't know that about churches, what's the reason behind that, I mean stopping water isn't very......shall we say is it!
@@TheUrbanMotorhome no idea why they take tap out completely . U.K. is getting ready bad . I remember years ago someone told me that it’s legal not to give people who need and arks for water to give them water. If you understand that. I guess when you think about it Walter is our life we need it with out it we will die 😢
Do you get an accountant to do your tax return?
Yes
Yes I have an accountant
Who pays for that water 💦 from around the garages
good lord I didn't realise people were that weird about cemeteries. It's just water, it's not filtered through dead bodies, they aren't about to leap up and vampire you ffs.
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haha thanks for watching mate
We use aquatabs if we fill up any place other than at home. For drinking we use the tank water in a Brita filter jug that fits into our fridge door. No need for those Burco boiler-looking monstrosities. 😂
Good tips, yeah I had a brita filter a long time ago and that was pretty good thinking about it
Would it be holy water?? if you got it from the cemetery 😂.
Nowt wrong with a church 😂
Tap water is not good to drink, fluoride amongst other stuff is not good for us.
Great info but we need to remember that someone is paying for that supply mate. Garages pubs and even your mums garage supply comes out the pockets of others.
No offence Daz but would been nice if you’d of added that in the vlog.
Hi mate, I totally get that 100% but like I said in the video, I ask the pub and the garage so if they didn't want me to they can say no there and then and if they say yes I think it's safe to assume they are ok with that.
As for the local garages me and my family have rented them for years with them putting the cost up each year and giving nothing more in return not even maintenance so taking some water here and there I don't feel bad about at all. That and the fact that I see many many people (who do rent a garage) using them taps to wash their cars again at least i'm pulling the water to good use, rather than down the drain with added chemicals.
All that being said if there was a service at any of these places or anywhere else like they have in europe that you can put a £1 in and get 5 mins or X litres of water I'd happily pay.
With the amount we are getting mugged for by immigrants and the government, nicking 10 ltrs of water is nothing to worry about.
So Pageant, do you live in a van full time? Where do you get yours from? Do you find places where you pay everytime? We are full time, always happy to pay for a drop of water but its not simple in the UK without a 30quid a night campsite.
@@ArianneAvalon carrying a key to help yourself is ok? I spend three or four months a year in my motorhome, once or twice a week calling at campsites for a night for top ups and tank emptying. My point is that the minority have caused this problem for full timers…..aim your comments at them .
Filling up a 100L fresh water tank costs around £0.14 - just FYI.