The Reimagining You Didn't Know You Wanted!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 เม.ย. 2024
- In this video I will be discussing my proposal for what I believe should be the next reimagining for the Sonic series. Definitely a stretch of a concept, but where's the fun in the safe option!
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Like the idea of a 3d classic sonic game sounds really cool
Thanks! I thought the idea could be fun!!
Sonic 3D blast: :/
@Blufi755 yeah, and sonic the fighters and sonic jam and etc, but those are all what I'd consider moderns branch, im willing to bet you sonic generations classic sonic came in before the events of Sonic 3 seeing that there is no classic knuckles in the game. But that's just a theory... A GA...
this sonic adventures reimagining seems pretty cool, new levels, new story, old characters like mighty and ray making a return, this would be kinda fun to play with.
Id hope so, this is kinda a passion project I've been conceptualizing for a while
huh. I'm surprised this wasn't another "sonic reboot" that had ideas that are stupid as flip. Instead, you main a super interesting and valid point! Honestly, this would be pretty cool!!
Glad you agree! This is one of those ideas that I think could do pretty well if it were a real game, but I knew people would be iffy about it since its a classic sonic game!
Honestly... that sounds like a decent idea! Maybe in the story you can also collect optional moves, and letting people choose which moves they want.
That could be a lot of fun!
I wouldn’t call it a reimagining if there are new characters or places added and left out a character like gamma. You might as well call it a new game
Yeah calling it a Reimagining is more for the comparison to Sonic Adventure. But the thing is if this video were about a modern Reimagining it would still have the same characters and story, but it would share the alot of the gameplay hubworld and level tweaks. But since I wanted to reimagaine it with classic characters I just went all the way
@@AustinTatious02sonic superstars was stated to take place after mania and before sa1 no joke
@@sonicnetwork2944 Would seem that I might be on to soemthing
@@AustinTatious02 maybe although this is why sa1 needs to be remade so that way for 1 they can improve the game and it's reputation and 2 maybe add in cut ideas like the kid mentioning sonic saving little planet and even meantion him saving little planet again in Sonic mania and stopping the dragon that was unleashed on the north star island stuff like that now for who should voice updated Dreamcast sonic I think Devan Mac. From prime fame should be Sonic's actor since he can sound like Drummond at times in fact I think sonic and shadow should be voiced by their actors in prime or maybe shadow be by griffin with that being said sonic adventure remade does need to include a line about sonic saving little planet twice and the north star island to prove that superstars and mania are apart of the classic_ modern timeline now superstars being stated before sa1 does cause issues because if they made another classic sonic game it'll either have to be on Roblox like sonic speed simulator or in the past maybe in between sonic mania and superstars or mania and 3 do there's that and if sa1 doesn't directly take place after superstars they'll have to do a game after superstars and before sa1 meaning sonic would have his adventure design in a probably 2D sonic game and then sa1 gets remade
So This video was already nearly done before we hit the 1000 Sub mark, so there isn't anything about it in the video. But holy crap, we hit 1000 so fast and it is all thanks to you guys! Thank you guys so much. It's incredible to see all of your guys support and look out for further information about this huge accomplishment!
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What game were you playing in the background of this vid? It looks like a fan game so just curious
@@John-rh7ms It is a Roblox game! I have it linked in the bio of the video!
@@AustinTatious02 Tysm really should of checked there but most TH-camrs don’t do that but really appreciate it thanks
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This is sick! If I knew how to use stuff like unity, I would totally try to make this idea come true!
That's awesome, ive been taking a coding class and plan to learn game design, so if I learn how, I'll prolly make some games
@@AustinTatious02 cool!
classic and modern is actually the same confirmed by creators
you can just understand this by searching on google
but im just gonna put it in here for no reason
"The Classic series began with Sonic 1 in 1991, and Sonic Adventure marked the switch to the Modern series in 1998," says Iizuka. "So in terms of the Sonic timeline, Sonic Superstars occurs after Sonic Mania and before Sonic Adventure. Whenever we develop a new game, we always make sure the story fits with the lore."
I know that they are they same, this video doesn't argue that. All I'm stating is a head cannon where because of Generations classic sonic is split between two time lines, one where he eventually became modern sonic, and another where he retains his classic form. And this point was just made to help in the understanding of how my idea came to be!
Honestly, that's pretty cool idea, I do have some ideas that differ from yours, but the concept in general is cool
First, I don't think the game would need to be considered a "Sonic Adventure Reimagined" nor be called "Sonic Adventure" trying to be a Classic Sonic version of Sonic Adventure, I think it could take place somewhere beetween Superstars and SA1 and have another name to its title
I also think it would be cool if the game had inspirations from Sonic World in Sonic Jam for both aesthetic and gameplay (but with lots of changes getting more simillar to Adventure, enhancing the physics, level design, etc.), and Sonic R for its aesthetics and maybe music since Sonic R's OST is a banger
The cast, I enjoyed a lot, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Mighty, Ray and Trip seems a really fun cast and choice, and having the other classic characters in the world as antagonist, bosses and NPCs such as Fang, Bean, Bark, Honey, Espio, Charmy, Vector, Heavy, Bomb, the Hard Boiled Heavies, Eggman, etc. That's such a cool and nice idea
For Amy's moveset, I really like Amy's moveset in Superstars, not that much in Origins Plus, but I definetly think Sonic and Amy are the most fun characters to play in that game, and I think her moveset is pretty unique, and also adds her cool moves such as the Spin Dash and jumping while curling into a ball, which I think all of the 6 characters should have, her Advance 1 moveset normally is placed at the worst out of the 4 characters due to that lack of curling jump, and Advance 2 is good especially because it adds the ball jump
I also don't think it needs all that story about Classic Sonic being Modern Sonic in the past but in this timeline he has the drop dash, I don't think we need explanations for Sonic moves, he's always learning new things from game to game without any explanation anyway, and having a explanation wouldn't change that much of the final result (and I also think the Homing Attack in Sonic's arsenal would be quite nice, especially with it having some kind of momentum, it would lead to some fun movement opportunities)
And for the level design, I think it would be cool if it followed the philosophy of the other Classic games, Sonic 2, Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Sonic Mania and Sonic Superstars, where changing characters do not change the level but actually only makes you go through it with a different set of abilities and sometimes each character has their own path that they can take advantage with their abilities, kinda like Adventure 1 but all of them would go through the same stages with the same level design and not just in one section of a level designed for one character
And for the Open World bit, if the game was an Open Zone game with some stages on it, like Frontiers is, I think it should be like the New Ouranos from the Final Horizon, the island is the same for all the characters but their abilities make them useful in the sections designed for them, but of course, with an own and cool art direction simillar to Sonic Jam and the other 2D Classic Games like Sonic 1, CD, 2, 3 & Knuckles, Mania and Superstars and with the things on the world blending well with the world itself making things more cohesive, pretty and cool to look at
The drop dash theory isn't needed, but I personally like it just cause I think it makes sense, and it's just a fun theory to think about.
When it comes to the aesthetics I would want there to be a choice between modern and dreamcast styled graphics. Especially with character models close to Sonic R or even Sonic the Fighters. Which once I take some courses in game design that's probably what I would end up styling it to.
With the levels I personally decided to separate the levels to specific characters because a common complaint is when you put tails in a Sonic stage like in Sonic Adventure, you cant limit how broken tails flight is like you can in a 2-d environment. So there is some possibility for characters to cross over in levels like mighty in sonics state with rubble only mighty could break through, but in giving them their own stages it allows you to put charscters specific moves to the test with special platforming like longer space between platforms to accommodate tails flight, so that it's necessary to use it to get through his specific stages, instead of using it to skip over the entire stage
@@AustinTatious02 Well, if each character would have their own set of stages, I think it would be cooler to be more simillar to how SA2 works instead of SA1, each character has their own set of stages with their own aesthetic and level designs
The difference is that there would be no different gameplays, all of them would be "linear" stages where you get from point A to point B, but with each character having their own abilities and a level that suits that, like a mix beetween the Classic Games, Adventure 1 and Adventure 2, since in the Classic Games all characters have the same gameplay objective that being to get from start to finish, and just like in the Classic Games, every character would basically play like Sonic but with their own abilities, everyone would be fast, have a spindash, jump in a ball, etc. No slow gameplay that changes completly the style and objective of the game like Big and Amy or even Gamma and Knuckles do in SA1
Interesting timing, I was just wanting to download a Saturn mod for Sonic Adventure!
Sounds like a peak time!
LOVE IT!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
So glad you liked the video! I worked really hard to provide this one!
who dosent aliza? i watch austintatious live while watching austintatious live
7:05 I think Fang being here makes more sense
He'd work here, but I do have a plan for him and it involves wild west theming
Oh my god this sounds so f###ing good!
Glad you like my idea
@@AustinTatious02 I would love for this to be realized in a sonic adventure dream type game. (Sonic adventure dream remake is a great idea for a SA1 remake and it is pretty fun I recommend watching it if you wanna hear someone talk about how to improve SA1)
@@AustinTatious02 I would love for this to be realized in a sonic adventure dream type game. (Sonic adventure dream remake is a great idea for a SA1 remake and it is pretty fun I recommend watching it if you wanna hear someone talk about how to improve SA1)
@@AustinTatious02 I would love for this to be realized in a sonic adventure dream type game. (Sonic adventure dream remake is a great idea for a SA1 remake and it is pretty fun I recommend watching it if you wanna hear someone talk about how to improve SA1)
@@Lazardeve2 I've probably have already seen the video tbh. I'm pretty well-versed in sonic media. And im actually taking classes learning how to make games in hopes of turning some of my thoughts into reality
rip E 102 gamma, you unfortunately didn't get added to the playable characters (I know you said this was a different timeline but still, you didn't have to get rid of him)
Yeah, E-102 is my favorite story in Sonic Adventure. But I just didn't think he'd fit in with the classic characters unfortunately. Maybe his design might be referenced in certain aspects though...?
Really quality channel
That means so much to hear! Thank you!
7:42 sounds suspiciously like infinite
Well you'd be "infinitely" wrong, but I do see the resemblance. However this villian can't warp reality
Character suggestions for the Reimagining Classic Sonic Adventure
Honey the Cat, Cream the Rabbit, E102 Gamma, Mecha Sonic (S3k) & Silver Sonic 2 (Sa1)
Honey is a deep cut! The others metal sonics are planned bosses for the other levels and as for gamma, he has his own plans...
You have to make a video on the Chaotix DLC for this game man.
I actually have a whole video on the chaotix getting there own game on my channel, highly suggest checking it out!
Personally I don’t like the idea of there being two timelines. How I see it is Modern Sonic just suddenly has memories from stuff Classic Sonic does. Though being Sonic, he doesn’t question it. Though the game’s concept sounds really cool
This is probably what Segawants, but remember that's just a theory, a ga... wrong channel
@@AustinTatious02
Nearly got yourself a Cease and Desist lol
@@Shonin2023 hmm a court battle against Mat Pat.... sounds like good publicity 😂
Ngl I thought up Classic Sonic 06. Your take isn’t that bad.
Funny enough when i was planning out the roster I almost went with the sonic 06 style as it is one of my favorites. But for thus title I feared that it would put restrictions on replayability when you lock the extra characters to segments that the story calls them for, so that's why I settled on adventure
2:35 that was mistranslation as the Japanese line same as generations points out that he’s just young sonic from the past and not from a different dimension,even nowadays he’s treated as sonic’s past whether in tailstube or interviews ,and as for the reimagining I don’t know….i already don’t like how they keep Morden “just mordern” and classic “just classic” with no allowance to share characters or ideas and gimmicks beyond few already established ones ,there’s really nothing wrong with the classic games having a tricks system similar to generations or spectacular sections done right similar to generations ,or levels that gets beyond the classic feel like crisis city act classic in generations,or for modern to not have the classic act structure and boss system as classic like heroes ,the way I say it is that classic and Morden sonic are just different artstyles for the same character,and I wish they’ll go beyond the classic formula for the 2d games and expand it similar to the rush games or advance ,and for the Morden titles to try some back to basics idea with the classic structure of physics based designed levels and wacky gimmick (while still expanding and experimenting with whatever new ideas they have of course)
I know a lot of people like the concept of the classic and modern characters being in both continuities, but I actually like them being separate, with the occasional cross overs like our core 4, metal, and Eggman. I think there is a charm to the sperate sets of friends, but I understand why people like and want classic in modern and vice versa
I played this one recently
Played it, when and where did you get thus title?
2 or 3 days ago or smth like that
@@Soul_Surge_YT nice!
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Bros going crazy
Beautiful video
@@Thatcharaclone Thank you, always trying to improve
Erm actually sonic could drop dash in sonic lost world.
Oh I didn't realize, but I guess in any case I don't believe it was officially recognized as a drop dash, right?
4:57 no offence ,but using mechanics as prove for theories isn’t exacly ideal for canonical discussions
I know that this isn't really canon, it's just meant as a fun theory to help explain where I'm coming from with my proposal. I'm not trying to bust what Sega has already made Canon with the tailstube and even origins having the dropdash. But my game proposal works off the basis of that theory. And responding to your other comment, even though it's a mistranslation, it's still what was said in game. So I'm just using what was provided. It's all in fun to try and make something entertaining to watch!
Alright ima do some changes to make it how sonic actually went 3D
The Roster would be the normal cast in adventure
Sonic would have the homing attack for simply it feels good to use
I already imagined that Classic Would be taller in this timeline so it’s just gonna be Tori Styled cast
Amy gets her modern look and hopefully everyone Disney just wear red white and yellow but instead Tails wears blue Knux wears Purple etc
Story the same from the original except with a light hearted Unleashed type of story telling
All city’s would look cool like the 3rd Zone in Mania
And yeah that’s my pitch
TO be honest I didn't really like taking the homing attack out, but it didn't really feel in line with classic sonic, but there is definitely a good argument why it should be there, seeing that there are a couple instances of him using the move
@@AustinTatious02 he used it in 3D blast and Superstars
@ImChili I didn't know about 3d blast, but I knew it was unlcokable after 100% generations and as an emerald power in superstars.
@@AustinTatious02 yeah..SO UPDATE IT TO HAVE HOMING ATTACK! also classic big
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Very much E! Probably my most E, I'd say
I just have to ask, what is the point of Classic Sonic at this point? I hardly saw the point of Classic Sonic when it came to the 2D games but at least that was a difference. Having a 3D Classic Sonic game just feels pointless and feels like pointless separation just to appeal to nostalgia and nothing else. Hell, it'd make Classic Sonic look worse if instead of us getting an actual Sonic Adventure game, we get a Classic Sonic adventure like game that has none of the appeal of the Classic games nor the Adventure games and just makes Sonic look desperate as an IP. Imagine if Mario did something like this where he advertised his next game not on its quality but instead on the fact that he is wearing his classic red overalls, it'd be dumb and make Nintendo look like they are fishing for nostalgia which is all Classic Sonic is.
I can see the frustration in classic sonics use by Sega, especially with how phoned in it was in Forces. But this idea doesn't branch for their need to reuse everything. I'm just working with what I believe could be a solid theory as to why he exists other than nostalgia bait. I'm a fan of the classic designs, so it doesnt bother me much to have a game that uses them with matching areas to explore. Also while my game proposal has references its not meant as nostalgia bait, as even in the locations they are all new, not reusing the sega staples of Greenhill and etc.
@@AustinTatious02 To me, the classic designs themselves are nothing but nostalgia bait as they add nothing outside of being able to say that it looks like the Sonic you grew up with. Its like I said before where you have a game where Nintendo decides to give Mario his red overalls instead of blue. It doesn't change anything about the game at all and just feels forced in for the sake of appealing to those who want their childhood brought back. Plus, I feel like it'd be a massive spit in the face of every Sonic Adventure fan who has wanted a new Sonic Adventure game to take the ideas of Adventure and shove them into the Classic formula with the Classic characters.
@rubyrose312 yeah im sure if sega were to market this game how i advertised it many people would be upset. Good thing I'm just a TH-camr and not SEGA 😂
@@AustinTatious02 I mean, you do you but I just don't see the appeal of make X thing but with this one specific look. Its like making a Megaman game but the only thing that's different is that he looks like ugly boxart Megaman. Like, cool but why?
@rubyrose312 Well it's just that I do like the design, I get you don't which is fine, but the classic designs to me are appealing. And I feel like the different roster of classic characters have a lot of different story potential. It's all based on opinion and for me I like all of sonics iteration and for the game I've envisioned I just don't see the modern characters working in it the same way the classic roster would. I think there is merrit in trying to use the characters in different ways even if it's not a popular opinion
I love it but....
THIS IS NOT SONIC ADVENTURE
THIS A NEW GAME
Delete all the stages and the leaders and add stages and enemies who were not in the game itself
DELETE CHAOS 'GAMMA 'BIG
I mean, come on.
I'm sorry if I look a little angry
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I like your idea but as a new game.
Yeah it's definitely not the same game as moderns 3d introduction. But I'm using adventure as the the point of comparison to classic sonic, so this was the best way for me to convey the message
@@AustinTatious02k❤
erm wth was that intro?? ummmmmmmmm
😂 I really don't know, the idea just came to me and I had to roll with it
modern sonic is just older classic sonic it's not that deep
well that sounds like a boring video, at least his video has some originality