This is a very cool deck tech. It's silly in a fun unpredictable way where your opponents won't see you as a threat until too late. Really like the Darksteel/Dread addictions for the self mill.
Zellix looks really cool. For me, its Sidisi, Brood Tyrant number 2. Lets me fight other self mill decks too. but its also an engine for the deck and functions almost identically to Sidisi.
True you can use a lot of the same strategies. Except that Sidisi doesn't have a self-tap-to-mill ability. I hope you get lots of wins with your decks. But most importantly, are having fun. 💜
@@mamamagicgwentastic4200 She has the enter and attack trigger so if I get Zellix out the turn before I can then the next turn drop Sadisi, mill self, likely get a zombie and a horror, then next turn I can attack and mill myself again and use Zellix to mill myself more. resulting in potentially 4 more triggers! Minor synergy but the fun stuff is with path of discovery which just goes off in the deck!
I have an episode coming up next week of my game show. And I've made several shorts. Thank you for the compliment I will be having more of these techs coming up in the near future.
Those first few combos aren't really infinite or even close. You have no control over if they continue or when they end. But the Ally one is probably the most powerful of them anyway. If everything is an Ally, then as the horror tokens enter, they not only cause more triggers, but also increase the amount of cards milled, in turn improving the odds of another creature getting milled as well as ramping up to let you mill someone out entirely. Also, when it comes to creatures that get stronger as stuff is milled, I will always prefer Consuming Aberration, assuming the deck has Blue and Black. Power and toughness equal to the number of cards in all graveyards might make it easier to kill with graveyard hate compared to getting +1/+1 counters, but it will have that power and toughness whether the milling was done before or after it hits the field. And that secondary ability of milling through to a land whenever you cast a spell is just amazing, effectively giving all of your spells an additional effect and pumping itself while also potentially ruining someone's mana base (maybe not with one use, but it does add up). Also ends up being punishing against decks that rush to get their lands out or have fewer lands for some reason, as well as later potentially punishing players that scry lands out of their way to get combo pieces faster, but those are more potential bonuses than main reasons to use it. Cast a spell, mill through to a land, likely get a horror, opponent tries to kill something with an instant, counterspell, mill through to a land, likely get another horror. Can turn any spell into a trigger for some of the repeatable loops in this video.
So if you're using Zellix as your commander, you're allowed to play dimir because it has the word black in its text? Or do you have to play mono-blue? Or is it that you can play dimir so long as your background has black in its mana cost? I'm confused.
That is a wonderful question and do not feel bad at all for being confused about it. Color identity is only identified by two things. The color of the mana symbols on a card, and if the card specifically said this card is such as such a color. (Exception is devoid cards). This is why people can play off color fetchlands in their decks. Merely mentioning a color or a land type does not deem it's color identity. That would also be a nightmare for cards that reference another color than an opponent may have it in play. Example look up the card seed time. Hopefully that answered your question. As for this commander the secondary color is deemed due to the background which is a black card in this case.
Luckily creature tokens do hit the graveyard. They just go "poof" and disappear once they hit the graveyard. It is a very utilized strategy in aristocrat style decks.
@@mamamagicgwentastic4200 Maybe the Commander Baldur gate legend was finally good for something! Great to hear that i can finally swap him as my commander, i was thinking about that when i first see the card , now with more visibility on how many cards can possibly work with , i'm sure about that swap :P N'Ghathrod gonna miss me but maybe it's time to aim a greater mill ability :)
@@mamamagicgwentastic4200 If you have the list actually, i'm ok to take a look at it ^^ I had Ngatrhrod Deck but i definitively replace it by this one! So much fun, even if Ngathrod is good too, but too expensive to play if you havent correct mana ramp Black like dark Ritual or Cunning The weak to cast it really quick ! Zellix have the advantage to come more quickly! Good job, want definitively to see your deck list with this one Mama ! Love from France!
@@vergescalvin428 Unfortunately I haven't gotten around to building it yet. Time has been scarce amongst running a business and being a mom and making regular content. I have some more larger videos in the works. It is definitely the deck I need to finish the most. There are many different directions to go with it. I was presenting different options. Once I have finished it I'll definitely post it.
Tokens aren't sent to grave; they're just removed from the field so some of your combos don't work. Interesting video but a lot of the combos are impractical given the amount of cards you need to make a lot of the combo's work. Intruder Alarm and Zellix along with a sac outlet is an interesting combo though that is worth considering.
They're just fun things that you can do there. But tokens that get sacrificed or die or are destroyed do in fact hit the graveyard. They just go "poof" and disappear once they hit the graveyard. It is a common misconception that people have that they do not go to the graveyard, but they in fact do.
This is a very cool deck tech. It's silly in a fun unpredictable way where your opponents won't see you as a threat until too late. Really like the Darksteel/Dread addictions for the self mill.
Thank you. I'm glad you love the unexpected as much as I do. 🥰
@@mamamagicgwentastic4200 I live for reactions
Another fun one is Phenax + eater of the dead infinite mill combo
I just used Haunted One as my background. I love mill and your Zellex deck
First video I'm seeing from you. Joining the under 300 subs gang.
Thank you I try to make interesting content when I have a free chance
This was an interesting deck tech. It branches out in many interaction possibilities. Good job
Zellix looks really cool. For me, its Sidisi, Brood Tyrant number 2. Lets me fight other self mill decks too. but its also an engine for the deck and functions almost identically to Sidisi.
True you can use a lot of the same strategies. Except that Sidisi doesn't have a self-tap-to-mill ability. I hope you get lots of wins with your decks. But most importantly, are having fun. 💜
@@mamamagicgwentastic4200 She has the enter and attack trigger so if I get Zellix out the turn before I can then the next turn drop Sadisi, mill self, likely get a zombie and a horror, then next turn I can attack and mill myself again and use Zellix to mill myself more. resulting in potentially 4 more triggers!
Minor synergy but the fun stuff is with path of discovery which just goes off in the deck!
I'm surprised I missed zellix, this is going in my grolnok deck asap. Non flying Desecrated Tomb which is pretty huge
Thanks for the deck tech my man. Much appreciated my dude. Hope you post another one soon good sir!
I have an episode coming up next week of my game show. And I've made several shorts. Thank you for the compliment I will be having more of these techs coming up in the near future.
Personally I found using “umbris, zellix, and altar of the brood as a fun combo
great video man! i would love a decklist to check out!
www.moxfield.com/decks/5vfPESd170O2Oa9JGHhE9w
Xenograft also works in a similar fashion.
Yes, you are correct I had forgotten that one existed.
Great video 👍
Those first few combos aren't really infinite or even close. You have no control over if they continue or when they end. But the Ally one is probably the most powerful of them anyway. If everything is an Ally, then as the horror tokens enter, they not only cause more triggers, but also increase the amount of cards milled, in turn improving the odds of another creature getting milled as well as ramping up to let you mill someone out entirely.
Also, when it comes to creatures that get stronger as stuff is milled, I will always prefer Consuming Aberration, assuming the deck has Blue and Black. Power and toughness equal to the number of cards in all graveyards might make it easier to kill with graveyard hate compared to getting +1/+1 counters, but it will have that power and toughness whether the milling was done before or after it hits the field. And that secondary ability of milling through to a land whenever you cast a spell is just amazing, effectively giving all of your spells an additional effect and pumping itself while also potentially ruining someone's mana base (maybe not with one use, but it does add up). Also ends up being punishing against decks that rush to get their lands out or have fewer lands for some reason, as well as later potentially punishing players that scry lands out of their way to get combo pieces faster, but those are more potential bonuses than main reasons to use it.
Cast a spell, mill through to a land, likely get a horror, opponent tries to kill something with an instant, counterspell, mill through to a land, likely get another horror. Can turn any spell into a trigger for some of the repeatable loops in this video.
That's why I said potentially infinite. But the one using self-shuffle ability does go infinite. Thank you for your feedback.
Maybe make a deck on Moxfield.
I'll post it when completed
Sorry it took so long to post: www.moxfield.com/decks/5vfPESd170O2Oa9JGHhE9w
Thank you
Do you have an updated discord link?
can you change sage row do way black instead of blue?
Yes that is an option too
So if you're using Zellix as your commander, you're allowed to play dimir because it has the word black in its text? Or do you have to play mono-blue? Or is it that you can play dimir so long as your background has black in its mana cost? I'm confused.
That is a wonderful question and do not feel bad at all for being confused about it. Color identity is only identified by two things. The color of the mana symbols on a card, and if the card specifically said this card is such as such a color. (Exception is devoid cards). This is why people can play off color fetchlands in their decks. Merely mentioning a color or a land type does not deem it's color identity. That would also be a nightmare for cards that reference another color than an opponent may have it in play. Example look up the card seed time.
Hopefully that answered your question.
As for this commander the secondary color is deemed due to the background which is a black card in this case.
cant alot of these also be used for Sidisi Brood Tyrant?
Yes they can. 🙂 Except she doesn't have the capability to mill
Does the agent of the iron throne work though because token creatures don’t hit the graveyard
Luckily creature tokens do hit the graveyard. They just go "poof" and disappear once they hit the graveyard. It is a very utilized strategy in aristocrat style decks.
iron throne doesn't say it has to be a "card" that goes in the graveyard. therefore it works. as far as i know
Tokens definitely hit the graveyard.
Hi i don’t find the list please
I haven't finished building it fully. But I will be posting it when I get it done.
@@mamamagicgwentastic4200 Maybe the Commander Baldur gate legend was finally good for something! Great to hear that i can finally swap him as my commander, i was thinking about that when i first see the card , now with more visibility on how many cards can possibly work with , i'm sure about that swap :P N'Ghathrod gonna miss me but maybe it's time to aim a greater mill ability :)
@@mamamagicgwentastic4200 If you have the list actually, i'm ok to take a look at it ^^ I had Ngatrhrod Deck but i definitively replace it by this one! So much fun, even if Ngathrod is good too, but too expensive to play if you havent correct mana ramp Black like dark Ritual or Cunning The weak to cast it really quick ! Zellix have the advantage to come more quickly! Good job, want definitively to see your deck list with this one Mama ! Love from France!
@@vergescalvin428 Unfortunately I haven't gotten around to building it yet. Time has been scarce amongst running a business and being a mom and making regular content. I have some more larger videos in the works. It is definitely the deck I need to finish the most. There are many different directions to go with it. I was presenting different options. Once I have finished it I'll definitely post it.
@@vergescalvin428 I finally got a chance yesterday to sit down and start typing up the deck list. I'll have it up later today.
Tokens aren't sent to grave; they're just removed from the field so some of your combos don't work. Interesting video but a lot of the combos are impractical given the amount of cards you need to make a lot of the combo's work. Intruder Alarm and Zellix along with a sac outlet is an interesting combo though that is worth considering.
They're just fun things that you can do there. But tokens that get sacrificed or die or are destroyed do in fact hit the graveyard. They just go "poof" and disappear once they hit the graveyard. It is a common misconception that people have that they do not go to the graveyard, but they in fact do.