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I saw your face on the thumbnail and was like, "Nooo, is that Jonathan Young??" Then I press play and I'm like, "Holy shit that's Jonathan Young. I didn't see this one coming."
"Nevermind that we have been giving advice to people for years to not do what he just did" - JLK moments after not paying for any rhystic studies triggers with an infinite mana combo.
@@Oneslicknick The entire time he was popping off free items and not paying I had my head in my hands. It was a nice game, but "Josh gives game to the Rhystic player while doing nothing, then shaming Jimmy" wasn't what I was hoping for from this match up
So they had fun and played outside how they normally do. Had this been a try hard game I'm sure they would have been more tight on these points. 🤷♂️ it was a fun game to watch.
@@darktiderising4825 I disagree, If he was trying to win the game on that turn its understandable to disregard the rhystic triggers. Jimmy chose time for a much worse reason, he said like "hopefuly you wont swing at me"
@@complainorgain5068 When you are trying to win the game on that turn, its advisable you don't let the blue player at the table draw interaction. Josh misplayed, Jimmy just wanted the suffering to end.
@@complainorgain5068 Nah definitely a misplay. Josh just got greedy I think. He literally gave Lexi a way to stop him from combo-ing off DURING his big turn (to be expected with all that free draw). Basically just spent a ton of time spinning gears doing nothing while feeding another player card after card. Made for an entertaining crackback though lol
@@thetogtube2 no he did definitely not. he could and should have paid for the Rhystic Study everytime - especially since he basically had infinite mana. not paying for the study drew Lexi the cards needed to stop him, otherwise he probably could have ended the game there. and then calling Jimmy out even though he himself ensured that Lexi had all the cards in the world, was a real headshaker.
@@_claymore I know. I was really expecting to see Jimmy at least go off because I was thinking of building the same deck as he was playing. But in typical JW fashion, the land drops were pretty bad. Nevertheless, what Jimmy did was excusable. Josh was really at fault here.
Josh: "Jimmy did the exact thing we sit in our chairs and tell you not to do" Also Josh: doesn't pay for a single Rhystic trigger while having like 20 mana in his mana pool
To be fair I think they usually say after a certain number of cards there are diminishing returns and so paying for rhystic study is not as big of a priority - especially because nobody else is wasting mana on it.
@@magellan6439 no it didn’t, Jimmy chose to discard a land and then he chose to give her an extra turn lol. He just threw the game every chance he had wasn’t on his deck at all lol.
seems to be the norm that it's just the commander and maybe a few other cards from the new sets. I'd prefer it if they needed like a minimum of 20 cards must be from the new sets but, I don't see it happening. old staples are just too useful to pass up I guess.
@@TGPDrunknHick”too useful” is the problem, though. If they’re doing videos themed around a set, then the focus of deck building should be the set itself and not making the most optimal deck.
@@eXJonSnow I know. my favourite Commander Deck is a midnight hunt/crimson vow werewolf one. only about 10 cards aren't from those sets. They just don't really want to deal with it I guess.
I like how everyone blames everyone else for the drawn answers except/even Jimmy even though he didn't really even give the draws, the many many draws- only Lexy knows. when she got the right card. everyone blames everyone else and/also takes responsibility.
I mean Josh could in response to the cyc rift could sacrifice copy artifact OR anything to get the e gine back, they are contento creators not that good on magic tho
As a yugioh player and totally noobs in MTG, when Josh started his frenzy combo of sacrifing his artifiact to draw cards and bring them back on the field, my mind was blow away of how insane the customization in MTG is, I might considers playing Commander.
As a yugioh player, commander is way better than Yu-gi-oh. It can also be cheaper than Yu-gi-oh, if you don't go super crazy. I built a Gishath Dino tribal commander deck last year, for not much more than I spent on my UCT dino yugioh deck.
You can easily pick up a preconstructed deck at a game store for about 50 bucks. The newest ones play reallyw ell out of the box and can hold their own in most non-competitive games.
Trust me as a person who came from the same background, DO IT. It’s the best thing that will ever happen and will be so refreshing because unlike yugioh before where you weren’t expecting over powered bulls*** to completely take control and make it you literally can’t play, at least here you get time to try and set up and prepare.
This however as you rightfully pointed out / observed is ONLY in the commander format. The original or more typical format of playing 1vs1 allows for almost no interesting interactions and is very dull.
I think we need to have Jimmy revisit this deck. I feel like so many of us were looking forward to seeing it do something. I was rooting for you the whole time Jimmy!
With Jimmy's track record of getting mana screwed, his choice to discard a land just because it would enter the battlefield tapped was questionable to say the least.
"If I play this tap land it's going to delay my plan so I'm going to discard it instead" *sits the game out waiting for a land* Yeah..... It would have delayed you SO MUCH, Jimmy *facepalms* I really wish I knew what else he had in hand that were all **so** important he chose to discard the land instead....
@@Crimby. In his 100 card deck, Jimmy had 38 lands and 20 cards that ramp him, give him a large boost of mana for a single turn, or cost decrease dragons. His deck building is fine.
I know this is the kinda magic some folks live for (congrats, this must've been a great episode!) but watching folks play with themselves round in circles till they work out how to win just ain't my jam.
@@Flailkerrin Honestly this has kept me from playing more magic. I see turns like this (mostly from JLK haha) and it scares me off. Content to watch the game instead and benefit from the great editing.
@@devinkerr5474 I would love to have seen Jimmy use that deck again in another game, preferably without getting land-stalled. Still wouldn't beat the infinite combo draw half my deck by turn 4 players, but I think it would have done some damage.
She was actually right to take Jonathan’s sol ring because technically due to the way it’s worded she can’t get hers back since unless she voted money to get hers back since expropriate checks the owner not the controller
Also as a side note she got to bounce cards to the hand later on, which is extra value exactly because she could bounce her Sol Ring off Jonathan's field.
Lexi: 'Hopefully, they make all the bad decisions and I can draw a ton of cards!' Foreshadowing the moment where Josh coulda paid the Rhystic Study with the amount of mana he's been making, really bad decision lol.
To be fair, if she didn't have the reliquary tower it would have been painful for her when discard phase came. If he was able to continue a large portion of her deck would be gone.
@@MrReaperHand That's true, she was excited that she drew it and Cyclonic Rift lol. Whether Josh paid the mana or she didn't have an answer, Josh woulda indeed won, but he didn't in the end. 🤪
This episode had all the Game Knights classics: Jimmy getting mana screwed, Josh taking a 10 minute plus turn only to fizzle out, and one of the guests going ham with big spells and winning.
Admittedly we don't know what else was in Jimmy's hand, but discarding the Kazuul's Fury when he had no other lands in hand seemed like a really weird choice.
Considering the cards we saw him play and discard, he had a hand of thing like cost reducers, elvish piper/quicksilver amulet, copy effects, ect. If he managed to get that untapped land he wanted, he could've gotten Miirym out, cheated in another Dragon, and started off his gameplan right. But he didn't win the gamble, and tossed away his backup plan (likely because the spell side was not useful without an established board). Long story short, he just got a little too greedy a little too early in the game.
The thought process only makes sense In green decks you so get use to playing a land,draw a card it feel so bad when you dont it's like buying candybar to realize you broke a tooth.
Lol I was literally writing this as my own comment but I'll post it here instead - 20:56 Jimmy: casts Thrill of Possibility "The only land I have in my hand is a tapland and honestly, that's gonna slowww down my gameplan..." Me: "Cool, so you'll keep your tapland just in case you don't draw a better land, because at least a tapland will slow you down less than no lands at all?" 21:04 Jimmy: "And I discard my tapland!" Me: JIMMY!
@@flan537 In this case, I totally understand why Jimmy did it. If he had chosen money and Lexi had taken one of his lands, he might as well concede anyway.
I do agree, but honestly if someone played a card that said "opponent chooses, take and extra turn, or draw 20 cards" im never letting someone take an extra turn.
24:05 "It's pretty harsh that we don't even get to look at our own cards [that were taken by Arvinox]" I mean... we all know what Jimmy's bottom cards were, because evidently all of his Lands are down there...
The amount of times JLK has drawn a third or more of his deck and done absolutely nothing with it is astounding. It makes what Ladee Danger said a while back that much funnier lol
I can definitely see this card being banned soon.. It's one of those already broken cards, without having to even combo multiple cards to make it phenomenal.
Can you guys play the precons again for the new set releases…. or at least upgraded precons? No one seems to upload those types of games anymore on TH-cam . I feel like it was always a nice way to get to see the new set and the new tech. I’m tired of seeing brand new commanders just being stuffed with pricy cards and the same old wincons from before.
I can't afford many of these win cons. I don't own a single fetch land let alone original duels. I want to see the new and the wacky. At this rate we will see someone with a turn 3 win.
Jacob as Minsc was the best part of the intro We also got all the staples of Game Knights: Josh combos off Jimmy missed lands And the game ends with Eldrazi and/or extra turns Still a fun episode
That expedite is some quality tech. A cheap cantrip to throw into the wild magic vortex, that also lets you fully utilize any huge creatures you flip without needing to untap.
The fact that no one ever pays for Rhystic Study even when they EASILY can drives me nuts. And it's not just this episode, it's literally every episode.
Pretty sure they have said that they specifically try to do their best to let the decks, especially the guest ones, pop off and not paying the 1 is a good way to do that.
Yeah, it's a big misplay. The intent of Rhystic Study is to slow the game down, but not lock someone out completely. You should only not pay if you are either sure you can win the game that turn (still risky because they might draw into Pact of Negation etc.) or you need to protect yourself from a game ending play.
@@tariik.h right, you cant have a show that has dozens of episodes telling people how to be a better player and then on your gameplay show not do any of that and be this weird mix of some optimal plays and some absolutely horrible plays that they preach to never do, this is why people don't pay the 1 because if they are new and only watch this channel then they never see it paid for so figure that is the right play.
@@kyle1078 I understand that they probably have to play less harsh to have a more fun game to watch, but at this point all their games seem to end by kingmaking. A soccer game with many goals is more fun than one with many goals for both sides, but Game Knights is more akin to one team not even trying to win and then the goals don't matter as much anymore, because there's no tension. Like, getting 20 cards and an extra turn for free will let pretty much any deck win
Lexi had an infinite at 55:52 : Archeomancer returns sublime epiphany 3 red floating + 4 treasures left, cast epiphany copy targets dockside and original targets Archeomancer, Original resolves Archeomancer copy on the field targets epiphany... PROFIT.
Kinda sad Jonathan's debut episode was one where people barely used their commanders, but I'm glad he was there all the same. One of the best guests they've ever had!
To be fair, if it wasn't interrupted it could have easily taken that long for him to keep doing plays and make a huge cycle of things to end up winning if he just never found the winning combo for a long time.
Im so thankful for you guys' videos!! Im a newer player and just finished my first commander deck! You guys really help me understand how the flow of my deck should feel, and how to make the most out of the bit of cards ive been able to afford. Even though i have noone to play with I have so much fun watching these and thinking about how my deck would deal with a lot of different things
If we learned three things this episode: Pay for RS, never vote time, and never go full chips when a blue player has mana up lol. Such an awesome game to watch
@@chrisgebben2043 I know right? I guarantee that the worst card in Jimmy's hand was not that tap land... This makes me wonder, do Jimmy and Josh still play a lot of commander or are they too busy now?
@@davidsamayoa7092 He could have kept going if he sacrificed an Artifact with mana value 4+ to get the original Scrap Trawler back. But the problem is he didn't have 4 mana Artifact on the board when Cyclonic was played. He could have gotten 2 or 1 mana thing back at that point, but none of the things in his gy would have kept the combo going, at most would give him a bit more mana(which he didn't use fully anyway). Unless there is some other line of play that you're seeing?
Gotta love that all of the events that transpired in this game only happened because of people not doing the actions you should do such as paying the one, or choosing money
Couldn’t Josh have used Liquimetal Torc to make his commander an artifact then sacrificed it to resurrect the Scrap Trawler and continue his engine? He had the mana for it (and the mana for the Rhystic Study payments).
Got a little confusing because the way they filmed it was intentionally confusing in that moment, but I also was surprised there wasn't a line to respond with the torque in there
@@dillongause7528 Make the commander an artifact, tap it to get whatever amount of mana, sac it to Ironworks, get back Scraptrawler, recast it with the floating mana from itself (since Command Zone isn't your hand), then continue the loop and win after drawing your entire deck.
Josh playing mono blue artifact deck and Jimmy missing 4 straight land drops is like season 8 of a sitcom. The characters have fully embraced their tropes on this channel
This was a very great episode for me to see. I was interested in building 3 of those commanders and have already finished 2 of them (Neera and Tasha). The one I wasn't impressed with when it was spoiled, Vhal, was a card I pulled at prerelease and hadn't considered how impressive it could be until seeing what Josh did with her. She's definitely a card I'll know not to sleep on anymore.
There are a lotta questionable plays in this series. I feel like they "accidentally" do a lotta things that put a player at a huge advantage a little too frequently
Johnthan Young: **Guest Stars** Also John: **Steals Lexi's Sol Ring** Lexi: **Villain theme** "And I'm going to cast YOUR Sol Ring!" ^Amazing Person and Arch Enemy you can root for^ - - - - Dude that Baldur's Gate mini movie was better than any D&D movie ever attempted! Bravo! The game itself was quite nice! I had Vhal and Neera both and had puzzled how they worked. Thanks to Game Knights I might just build around them next, since Duke Ulder Ravegard is my current favorite commander to use from the set, myriad everywhere just so much faster ETB combos than waiting to untap Chulane my previous favorite ETB and can't out speed or power Volo but somehow being in aggro Boros it feels faster and more efficient on some plays even they aren't game winning.
Always really enjoy game knights and the quality and entertainment of the episode was awesome!! I know that the guests get to make their own decks and of course want to make powerful decks that synergize well and pop off but I have to admit that constantly seeing rhystic study and smothering tythe is getting really old. Feels like every episode wether its extra turns or game knights whoever plays rhystic study always takes over the table even if they don't win in the end. Maybe as a change of flavor and to show that not every commander game has to have rhystic study you guys could consider having a soft house ban on these oppressive cards (Dockside / Smothering tythe / Rhystic Study). Personally I would find it way more interesting to see other cards pop off and shine, the only other solution would be to take your own advice and just instantly remove them... but lets be real thats never gonna happen. As always great episode and thanks for always taking Game Knights to the next level!!
This game was a step backwards. Both jimmy and josh made a lot of mistakes. Also every player had a rhystic and cyclonic, even that archeomancer was on all decks! They play to huge parts staple tribal and then cards that go on theme with the commander that cant even shine cause the game is too fast. The Baldursgate set has so much fun cards and we did see mostly nothing of that. Also i thought they had extra turns for matches like this one. I normaly love those themed episodes, but this time its disapointing.
Drafting the decks might have been a good choice here. More Backgrounds (cause lets be real, I doubt those and the Commanders will start showing up on future episodes unless they are for infinite combos like this one), slower game to allow Dragon tribal to shine, Initiative and the Undercity would have showed up, etc.
Wow congratulations Lexi, I hope when my daughter Lexi learns how to play commander she's able to put together a combo like that. ( as long as it's not against me lol)
i really like how as Lexi was playing in her final turn, she just started playing cards on Jimmy's mat. He wasn't really using it anyway, it's free real-estate.
I have never seen Josh + Jimmy team up so well to give the game to a guest hahaha Though tbf, both Jonathan and Lexi played their respective hands the best they could and were perfectly reasonable in their play patterns and execution, just felt like there was a lot of questionable moves by the two hosts lol
I feel like you should make another episode for Baldur's Gate, I mean seeing Josh and Lexi's decks combo off was cool but, can we see a game of commander next time? 🤣
@@pr0fess0rbadass Yeah you're right. I mean of course you wanna play the 2 mana ramp spells, of course you wanna combo off, of course you want everything faster, I also do, but it's also sad in a way, because I got the feeling that all the busted things you can do in the other formats, you can just do them also in commander now, a format with freaking 100 cards and a single copy of each. But that's just the evolution of the game I guess, otherwise, what are you supposed to do? Play your janky deck and never impact the game becouse you can't catch up? Yeah I got the feeling that the ''soul" that this format had it's just fading, idk 🤷
@@pr0fess0rbadass sometimes i feel like people need to be reminded that EDH is a casual format without any real banlist or ruleset. You know that you can customize the game? house rules? There are no edh tournaments, there is no scene, there is no meta. just dont play the broken stuff if slow games is what you want. Nobody is stopping you. this isnt modern or standard, where the state of the game changing will affect everyone because everyone plays under the same rules in a competetive setting. Its EDH, the dumb time-waste we did at the judge tables while getting high
What a truly iconic game. From the "origin story" of sol ring stealing.. To Jimmy discarding his land and then retrieving it later in the most convoluted and desperate way possible (bless him). To Josh NOT paying for RS at all and then him roasting Jimmy for giving Lexi an extra turn when he gave her like 20 cards to RS... LOL Priceless. The engine going off for Josh only to be blocked by him giving Lexi the solution by not paying RS.. And the absolute shiny perfect cherry on top to see Lexi then dominate and sequence her final *turns* perfectly at the end. The triple slay.. The spice and synergy. Perfection. GG
This was an excellent episode! I've never heard of your guests before, but Lexi sure makes a powerful impression with her game play and smile (probably part of her strategy to lull her opponents into a false sense of security). Jonathan played well and was entertaining. Josh's deck looked fierce, but I was never really sure what it was supposed to do to close things out. By contrast, Jimmy being hampered by mana screw allowed for him to make a decision that sped up the game. I'd be alright if there was a rematch sometime later on.
You would think Jimmy has some hours in gameplay experience to not greed on the tapland. Knew he was out of the game the moment he played Thrill and pitched his only land.
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im still waiting on my deck box D:
I'm still waiting on the deck box 😣 I never got my shipping number
Been watching Command Zone since the beginning, so stoked to be a part of this :)
I loved you as a guest, please do this again!
I saw your face on the thumbnail and was like, "Nooo, is that Jonathan Young??"
Then I press play and I'm like, "Holy shit that's Jonathan Young. I didn't see this one coming."
u did great bro, that deck can do so much more. i hope u showed them off camera
Dude I fricking love your music, and u play bloody edh, hot fricking damn
Dude I fricking love your music, and u play bloody edh, hot fricking damn
"Nevermind that we have been giving advice to people for years to not do what he just did" - JLK moments after not paying for any rhystic studies triggers with an infinite mana combo.
Made me salty to get on Jimmy for that ngl. “I wonder where Ulamog is going for” 🗿
@@Oneslicknick The entire time he was popping off free items and not paying I had my head in my hands. It was a nice game, but "Josh gives game to the Rhystic player while doing nothing, then shaming Jimmy" wasn't what I was hoping for from this match up
they ignore they own teachings
"Do as I say, not as I do" energy.
I'm having flashbacks now. Thanks, Mom!
So they had fun and played outside how they normally do. Had this been a try hard game I'm sure they would have been more tight on these points. 🤷♂️ it was a fun game to watch.
Josh: it’s all jimmy’s fault he voted for time
Also josh: didn’t pay for 20+ Rhystic studies
Right? More than a bit hypocritical on JLK's part.
@@darktiderising4825 I disagree, If he was trying to win the game on that turn its understandable to disregard the rhystic triggers. Jimmy chose time for a much worse reason, he said like "hopefuly you wont swing at me"
@@complainorgain5068 When you are trying to win the game on that turn, its advisable you don't let the blue player at the table draw interaction. Josh misplayed, Jimmy just wanted the suffering to end.
@@complainorgain5068 Nah definitely a misplay. Josh just got greedy I think. He literally gave Lexi a way to stop him from combo-ing off DURING his big turn (to be expected with all that free draw). Basically just spent a ton of time spinning gears doing nothing while feeding another player card after card.
Made for an entertaining crackback though lol
Jonathan: It's all Josh's fault for not paying for Rhystic Study
Also Jonathan: I won't pay for Rhystic Study
It would be great if you guys could display a count of the floating mana on the "big play" turns
I would like to second your comment
Josh, you know this needs to happen, your internally groaning, but because you know you have to lol
Even better if Josh stopped playing these boring decks
Josh: "I hope she doesn't have any instants"
Lexi: *holding half of her library in hand* 😂
Yeah I sad she didn't have instants 😂
I love how Josh admonished Jimmy for giving Lexi an extra turn after he gave her like 20 cards. A real pot calling the kettle black moment. LMAO
... Josh went for the win... Jimmy through in the towel for no reason.
@@thetogtube2 yea, but giving any player, especially a blue player, a ton of cards is basically giving them all the ammunition to stop them.
@@thetogtube2 no he did definitely not. he could and should have paid for the Rhystic Study everytime - especially since he basically had infinite mana. not paying for the study drew Lexi the cards needed to stop him, otherwise he probably could have ended the game there.
and then calling Jimmy out even though he himself ensured that Lexi had all the cards in the world, was a real headshaker.
Jimmy was playing for second place really, nothing wrong with that IMO.
JLK just a moron.
@@_claymore I know. I was really expecting to see Jimmy at least go off because I was thinking of building the same deck as he was playing. But in typical JW fashion, the land drops were pretty bad.
Nevertheless, what Jimmy did was excusable. Josh was really at fault here.
Josh: "Jimmy did the exact thing we sit in our chairs and tell you not to do"
Also Josh: doesn't pay for a single Rhystic trigger while having like 20 mana in his mana pool
Wasn't it a thing in a Game Knights ad that says you always pay for Rhystic Study??
To be fair I think they usually say after a certain number of cards there are diminishing returns and so paying for rhystic study is not as big of a priority - especially because nobody else is wasting mana on it.
@@damagedjoker69 maybe he was thinking he going win though Ristick study is not there anymore if you win the game 😉
Also Josh: Sees Lexi with 30 plus mana in the pool and grip full of cards: 👁👃👁
@@mightygregdoge that's the point of the OP comment 💪🏾
I'd like to see a redemption episode where some players come back to show off decks that didn't do well in the past
Same I really want to see Jimmy’s dragon deck actually play out
@@camc7222 yeah the game really steamrolled past him and Johnathan
MTGNerdGirl!! Kykar rights!!!
@@magellan6439 no it didn’t, Jimmy chose to discard a land and then he chose to give her an extra turn lol. He just threw the game every chance he had wasn’t on his deck at all lol.
@@Smorehead13 even with the land he discarded that's four lands in a deck with a five coat commander. He gave her the turn to end the game
It's great getting to see all the new cards like Cyclonic Rift, Rhystic Study and Vampiric Tutor
Never mind such exciting new releases like etalli or Ulamog.
This is sort of why I'd like to see more Brawl being played at some time, it would showcase more new cards.
seems to be the norm that it's just the commander and maybe a few other cards from the new sets. I'd prefer it if they needed like a minimum of 20 cards must be from the new sets but, I don't see it happening. old staples are just too useful to pass up I guess.
@@TGPDrunknHick”too useful” is the problem, though.
If they’re doing videos themed around a set, then the focus of deck building should be the set itself and not making the most optimal deck.
@@eXJonSnow I know. my favourite Commander Deck is a midnight hunt/crimson vow werewolf one. only about 10 cards aren't from those sets.
They just don't really want to deal with it I guess.
Josh for years "PAY THE 1 GUYS!! DONT GIVE PEOPLE CARDS"
Josh with an infinite combo* "Nah I don't pay the one what could possibly go wrong"
Triple kill in coming.
Also Josh: Well, if it isn’t the consequences of my actions.
How much mana did he waste?????
@@metricarea7546 lots
In today’s episode: Wild magic gets even wilder as Josh forgets to pay the one.
And Jimmy forgets to vote for money and not time.
and not just that we bolt the bird
I like how everyone blames everyone else for the drawn answers except/even Jimmy even though he didn't really even give the draws, the many many draws- only Lexy knows. when she got the right card. everyone blames everyone else and/also takes responsibility.
I mean Josh could in response to the cyc rift could sacrifice copy artifact OR anything to get the e gine back, they are contento creators not that good on magic tho
You get to see cyclonic rift cast not overloaded to save the day, and you also see it cast overloaded to save the day. Mind blown.
Jonathan: *takes Sol Ring*
Lexi: *_And I took that personally_*
PLEASE bring Johnathan back soon! he's good at magic, and he's hilarious!
That main phase cyclonic rift would disagree with you,.
As opposed to what? Playing it after josh gets to untap and possibly draw into a counterspell?
Upvote this pls
I wish the bring back mel lie or make some more episodes with cassuis marsh I miss them both
He's very entertaining.
As a yugioh player and totally noobs in MTG, when Josh started his frenzy combo of sacrifing his artifiact to draw cards and bring them back on the field, my mind was blow away of how insane the customization in MTG is, I might considers playing Commander.
As a yugioh player, commander is way better than Yu-gi-oh. It can also be cheaper than Yu-gi-oh, if you don't go super crazy. I built a Gishath Dino tribal commander deck last year, for not much more than I spent on my UCT dino yugioh deck.
You can easily pick up a preconstructed deck at a game store for about 50 bucks. The newest ones play reallyw ell out of the box and can hold their own in most non-competitive games.
Trust me as a person who came from the same background, DO IT. It’s the best thing that will ever happen and will be so refreshing because unlike yugioh before where you weren’t expecting over powered bulls*** to completely take control and make it you literally can’t play, at least here you get time to try and set up and prepare.
Commander is king
This however as you rightfully pointed out / observed is ONLY in the commander format.
The original or more typical format of playing 1vs1 allows for almost no interesting interactions and is very dull.
I think we need to have Jimmy revisit this deck. I feel like so many of us were looking forward to seeing it do something. I was rooting for you the whole time Jimmy!
seconded
3nd'ed
Jimmy: "I really want to guarantee my land draws."
Also Jimmy: Discards the last land he'll see this game.
jimmy wong mana troubles will be a forever meme!
This man is being mana starved sense the game of magic was given to us mortals
"i don't have any lands besides a tap land, let's discard that" smartest move ever
at least a tap land better than nothing oh wait. jimmy wong's mind!
Jimmy has also only 34 lands in his deck.
“How is JLK going to draw his entire library this time?” -Me every time there’s a new game knights episode
mono blue for the win
This time he made another player draw it. ^^
Yeah
"How hard is Jimmy going to be manascrewed?" comes right after that one.
@@ShikiRen unfortunately I think he did it to himself to some degree
With Jimmy's track record of getting mana screwed, his choice to discard a land just because it would enter the battlefield tapped was questionable to say the least.
"If I play this tap land it's going to delay my plan so I'm going to discard it instead"
*sits the game out waiting for a land*
Yeah..... It would have delayed you SO MUCH, Jimmy *facepalms*
I really wish I knew what else he had in hand that were all **so** important he chose to discard the land instead....
Jimmy playing green: there's no way I can get mana screwed now
*Distant rakdos laughter*
Ya the mana droughts are real. Mana ramp just to play land for turn also happens.
I've been mana screwed more than once with Elves. if you can get mana screwed with elves mana can fuck you over with any style.
Jimmy: Is alsways mana screwed
Also Jimmy: "Hey I bet it'd be a great idea to discard this land"
He’s terrible at this game. Guarantees he puts 29 lands in his multicolor deck and think it’s okay because he has 5 spells that are ramp.
@@Crimby. he's not Terrible he just gets greedy alot
29 lands in a muticolor is not a lot for 120 card decks even more so for more then 120.
@@Crimby. In his 100 card deck, Jimmy had 38 lands and 20 cards that ramp him, give him a large boost of mana for a single turn, or cost decrease dragons. His deck building is fine.
Seeing jimmy archeomancer back that land he was too good for is my favorite thing I’ve ever seen on this channel
Lmao the land he was too good for I love it
Second best after that hermit druid xD
Man, sure was great watching the 1v1 Commander with JLK and Lexi. Nice of Johnathan and Jimmy to sit at the table to keep them company.
I know this is the kinda magic some folks live for (congrats, this must've been a great episode!) but watching folks play with themselves round in circles till they work out how to win just ain't my jam.
Every time I wanna see the dragons do their thing 🥲
@@Flailkerrin Honestly this has kept me from playing more magic. I see turns like this (mostly from JLK haha) and it scares me off. Content to watch the game instead and benefit from the great editing.
@@Flailkerrin felt but it being Lexi someone new to me vs just JLK yet again. It was pretty awesome.
@@devinkerr5474 I would love to have seen Jimmy use that deck again in another game, preferably without getting land-stalled. Still wouldn't beat the infinite combo draw half my deck by turn 4 players, but I think it would have done some damage.
She was actually right to take Jonathan’s sol ring because technically due to the way it’s worded she can’t get hers back since unless she voted money to get hers back since expropriate checks the owner not the controller
Also as a side note she got to bounce cards to the hand later on, which is extra value exactly because she could bounce her Sol Ring off Jonathan's field.
Lexi sequenced that perfectly
good catch!
Lexi: 'Hopefully, they make all the bad decisions and I can draw a ton of cards!'
Foreshadowing the moment where Josh coulda paid the Rhystic Study with the amount of mana he's been making, really bad decision lol.
To be fair, if she didn't have the reliquary tower it would have been painful for her when discard phase came. If he was able to continue a large portion of her deck would be gone.
@@MrReaperHand That's true, she was excited that she drew it and Cyclonic Rift lol. Whether Josh paid the mana or she didn't have an answer, Josh woulda indeed won, but he didn't in the end. 🤪
@@MrReaperHand I wonder who's fault it was that led her to drawing said Reliquary Tower... 👀
This episode had all the Game Knights classics: Jimmy getting mana screwed, Josh taking a 10 minute plus turn only to fizzle out, and one of the guests going ham with big spells and winning.
Admittedly we don't know what else was in Jimmy's hand, but discarding the Kazuul's Fury when he had no other lands in hand seemed like a really weird choice.
Considering the cards we saw him play and discard, he had a hand of thing like cost reducers, elvish piper/quicksilver amulet, copy effects, ect.
If he managed to get that untapped land he wanted, he could've gotten Miirym out, cheated in another Dragon, and started off his gameplan right. But he didn't win the gamble, and tossed away his backup plan (likely because the spell side was not useful without an established board).
Long story short, he just got a little too greedy a little too early in the game.
The thought process only makes sense In green decks you so get use to playing a land,draw a card it feel so bad when you dont it's like buying candybar to realize you broke a tooth.
Lol I was literally writing this as my own comment but I'll post it here instead -
20:56 Jimmy: casts Thrill of Possibility "The only land I have in my hand is a tapland and honestly, that's gonna slowww down my gameplan..."
Me: "Cool, so you'll keep your tapland just in case you don't draw a better land, because at least a tapland will slow you down less than no lands at all?"
21:04 Jimmy: "And I discard my tapland!"
Me: JIMMY!
I mean thats the most red thing you can do in Magic
And this is when Josh learned a very important lesson: PAY FOR RHYSTIC!
More importantly, don't ever give time to expropiate lol
ESPECIALLY if you have an infinite mana loop going. lol
The worse of this is that he was iterating mana in way he was up mana even paying rhystic.
He was sending a message clearly
@@flan537 In this case, I totally understand why Jimmy did it. If he had chosen money and Lexi had taken one of his lands, he might as well concede anyway.
Josh roasting Jimmy for choosing "Time" all while he chooses to skip on paying the one... Aaah the irony.
Josh was roasted throughout the game for not paying. Yeah he’s gonna mention Jimmy picking Time, but don’t act like nobody noticed JLKs mistake
I do agree, but honestly if someone played a card that said "opponent chooses, take and extra turn, or draw 20 cards" im never letting someone take an extra turn.
She didnt even needed the second extraturn.
@@okgut2033 she did. Each opponent had 1 more turn if Jimmy hadn't given her a turn. They scooped in response to her 3rd turn.
@@murlocmasher3368 34:19 lol
24:05 "It's pretty harsh that we don't even get to look at our own cards [that were taken by Arvinox]"
I mean... we all know what Jimmy's bottom cards were, because evidently all of his Lands are down there...
The amount of times JLK has drawn a third or more of his deck and done absolutely nothing with it is astounding. It makes what Ladee Danger said a while back that much funnier lol
What did she said?
Never thought that I will live to see this chain of bad decisions event on game knights. Also, a high praise to Lexi. Perfect sequencing. Bravo! GG
dang i really was looking forward to seeing Jimmy's deck in action
Anytime Jimmy has a deck I am interested in seeing he gets mana screwed. It's tradition at this point.
@@johnrogers9262 he asked for it by discarding a land that was just greedy
I know. I was even thinking of building it.
agreed
Lexi playing Delina makes me so happy. By far my favorite AFR card as you get to watch the dread of the table while you roll dice.
Def made for a format with not a lot of removal in it
You could say she was cooking this game.
you should be on this show dude kind of want you to represent black blue since it rarely any good unless josh uses it.
I can definitely see this card being banned soon.. It's one of those already broken cards, without having to even combo multiple cards to make it phenomenal.
@@elijahsutherlin5280 they're not going to ban a random chance card before they ban ulamog
that intro was great fun. y'all are unstoppable.
New vid coming soon? 👀
Rhystic studies for the win.
Can you guys play the precons again for the new set releases…. or at least upgraded precons? No one seems to upload those types of games anymore on TH-cam . I feel like it was always a nice way to get to see the new set and the new tech. I’m tired of seeing brand new commanders just being stuffed with pricy cards and the same old wincons from before.
I can't afford many of these win cons. I don't own a single fetch land let alone original duels.
I want to see the new and the wacky. At this rate we will see someone with a turn 3 win.
good point. people click on these videos to see the new cards in action, not expropriate and rhystic study
LRR put out a precon video just yesterday as part of their new series. New Capenna precons tho. But I'm hoping Baldur's Gate precons are next.
I was excited to watch this then realized this is the same 90 cards they always play with a different commander.
You would think they would play the precons considering this is legitimately a paid WotC advertising channel.
11:19 start's the video
32:07 skip the ads
First minute of the sketch. Jimmy: *BOLT THE BIRD*
I really wanted them to cast stuff like firce guardianship or ulamog for the skit or gadeck teg
also epic move moment and meme moment.
Jacob as Minsc was the best part of the intro
We also got all the staples of Game Knights:
Josh combos off
Jimmy missed lands
And the game ends with Eldrazi and/or extra turns
Still a fun episode
A staple at this rate is Josh comboing out and still loosing due to poor decision making
kind want more kobra kai cast on game knights imagine Johnny using a rakdos deck or Danny using mono blue?
Jimmy discarding a land to dig for another land is the Ultimate Jimmy Wong Play.
How dare Josh roast Jimmy - he had INFINTIE MANA
That expedite is some quality tech. A cheap cantrip to throw into the wild magic vortex, that also lets you fully utilize any huge creatures you flip without needing to untap.
The fact that no one ever pays for Rhystic Study even when they EASILY can drives me nuts.
And it's not just this episode, it's literally every episode.
Pretty sure they have said that they specifically try to do their best to let the decks, especially the guest ones, pop off and not paying the 1 is a good way to do that.
Yeah, it's a big misplay. The intent of Rhystic Study is to slow the game down, but not lock someone out completely.
You should only not pay if you are either sure you can win the game that turn (still risky because they might draw into Pact of Negation etc.) or you need to protect yourself from a game ending play.
@@tariik.h right, you cant have a show that has dozens of episodes telling people how to be a better player and then on your gameplay show not do any of that and be this weird mix of some optimal plays and some absolutely horrible plays that they preach to never do, this is why people don't pay the 1 because if they are new and only watch this channel then they never see it paid for so figure that is the right play.
Ban tax card, is no fun in yt show
@@kyle1078 I understand that they probably have to play less harsh to have a more fun game to watch, but at this point all their games seem to end by kingmaking. A soccer game with many goals is more fun than one with many goals for both sides, but Game Knights is more akin to one team not even trying to win and then the goals don't matter as much anymore, because there's no tension.
Like, getting 20 cards and an extra turn for free will let pretty much any deck win
Holy crap its Jonathan Young. I never thought he'd make it on the show but holy crap
When Josh passed up 50 pay triggers for rhystic study with infinite mana
Lexi had an infinite at 55:52 : Archeomancer returns sublime epiphany 3 red floating + 4 treasures left, cast epiphany copy targets dockside and original targets Archeomancer, Original resolves Archeomancer copy on the field targets epiphany... PROFIT.
Kinda sad Jonathan's debut episode was one where people barely used their commanders, but I'm glad he was there all the same. One of the best guests they've ever had!
Jimmy: "Is he gonna combo off and win right now?"
Me: Not according to the episode runtime, he isn't.
To be fair, if it wasn't interrupted it could have easily taken that long for him to keep doing plays and make a huge cycle of things to end up winning if he just never found the winning combo for a long time.
less video means more skits
@@dillongause7528 you mean more ads? 😂
Why does no one notice that he can keep going lmao
"Calls forth the Eldrazi to defend her realm" is a phrase I never expected to hear.
LMFAO yeah that funny
nahiri moment monkaW
Josh: “Do as I say, not as I do”
Dope game, super entertaining to see Lexi absolutely smash everyone’s face like that!
Im so thankful for you guys' videos!! Im a newer player and just finished my first commander deck! You guys really help me understand how the flow of my deck should feel, and how to make the most out of the bit of cards ive been able to afford. Even though i have noone to play with I have so much fun watching these and thinking about how my deck would deal with a lot of different things
If we learned three things this episode: Pay for RS, never vote time, and never go full chips when a blue player has mana up lol. Such an awesome game to watch
also at the sam time
never discard your last land under any cercomstances (the MDFC)
@@chrisgebben2043 I know right? I guarantee that the worst card in Jimmy's hand was not that tap land... This makes me wonder, do Jimmy and Josh still play a lot of commander or are they too busy now?
@@Alternative-Works hmmm well josh failed to realize that persudo infinite mana thing he was doing to pay 1 for the rhystic study
Josh could have kept going by sacrificing in response and trigering to get his gy creature back why does no one notice?
@@davidsamayoa7092 He could have kept going if he sacrificed an Artifact with mana value 4+ to get the original Scrap Trawler back. But the problem is he didn't have 4 mana Artifact on the board when Cyclonic was played. He could have gotten 2 or 1 mana thing back at that point, but none of the things in his gy would have kept the combo going, at most would give him a bit more mana(which he didn't use fully anyway). Unless there is some other line of play that you're seeing?
Gotta love that all of the events that transpired in this game only happened because of people not doing the actions you should do such as paying the one, or choosing money
Couldn’t Josh have used Liquimetal Torc to make his commander an artifact then sacrificed it to resurrect the Scrap Trawler and continue his engine? He had the mana for it (and the mana for the Rhystic Study payments).
then he have to recast his commander and pay commander tax probably still the engine stopped after cyclonic rift
Got a little confusing because the way they filmed it was intentionally confusing in that moment, but I also was surprised there wasn't a line to respond with the torque in there
@@dillongause7528 Make the commander an artifact, tap it to get whatever amount of mana, sac it to Ironworks, get back Scraptrawler, recast it with the floating mana from itself (since Command Zone isn't your hand), then continue the loop and win after drawing your entire deck.
Aayyyy i literally just commented this same thing! Yeah this line would have definitely changed the game.
I was way too late with my comment lol good call, 100% what was going through my mind
Josh playing mono blue artifact deck and Jimmy missing 4 straight land drops is like season 8 of a sitcom. The characters have fully embraced their tropes on this channel
This was a very great episode for me to see. I was interested in building 3 of those commanders and have already finished 2 of them (Neera and Tasha). The one I wasn't impressed with when it was spoiled, Vhal, was a card I pulled at prerelease and hadn't considered how impressive it could be until seeing what Josh did with her. She's definitely a card I'll know not to sleep on anymore.
love how the "dragon tempest" animation contains the "dragon's approach" damage animation. Nice detail :)
I guess the dragon tempests are approaching...
I'll see myself out
I remember that he played, but I wasn't expecting Jonathan on here!!
The editing this episode is EXTRAORDINARY. The animations areore epic than ever too, honestly so cool 🤩
Also these guests were do good, I hope they come back 😆❤️
I like that Jonathan has a thieves guild mark on his arm and is playing the deck revolving around taking the other player's cards.
I'm going to point out that Baldur's Gate is a city on the continent of Faerun in the world Toril. Faerun is sometimes called the Forgotten Realms
Jimmy bolted the bird which means morbid was active. Josh then proceeds to kill someone.
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who thought this
Maybe they had 14 toughness? Hopefully?
Josh getting salty about Jimmy voting for time meanwhile everyone is screaming WHY ISN'T ANYONE PAYING FOR RHYSTIC STUDY?!? 😆
Glad to see Jonathan playing Tasha. I'm building her as well so I'm looking forward to seeing how she does.
Sometimes it feels like Jimmy’s his own worst enemy when it comes to a good mana base
You need more mana the higher the card count dude is playing to much limits size decks.
It was so fun seeing the Dungeons and Daddies Cast in this episodes intro!!
I would love to see Lexi come back. She was wonderful.
Yeah she was mad dope. I don't think I remember an episode where everyone just quit cause they knew it was over. She went off.
@MightyR.D.B She was just playing with her food at that point. Lol
the fact that josh gave her a million cards and jimmy giving her an extra turn really says something.
There are a lotta questionable plays in this series. I feel like they "accidentally" do a lotta things that put a player at a huge advantage a little too frequently
Jimmy just wanted his suffering to end. :D
"Huh, I guess Josh is hoping to punish her with massive discard by not paying for Rhystic Study."
-Reliquary Tower gets played-
"Guess not."
I was floored to see that Jon was a player. Found Galatikraken a year ago and listened to so many songs since. Been loving his music. Good luck jon!
Johnthan Young: **Guest Stars**
Also John: **Steals Lexi's Sol Ring**
Lexi: **Villain theme** "And I'm going to cast YOUR Sol Ring!"
^Amazing Person and Arch Enemy you can root for^
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Dude that Baldur's Gate mini movie was better than any D&D movie ever attempted! Bravo! The game itself was quite nice! I had Vhal and Neera both and had puzzled how they worked. Thanks to Game Knights I might just build around them next, since Duke Ulder Ravegard is my current favorite commander to use from the set, myriad everywhere just so much faster ETB combos than waiting to untap Chulane my previous favorite ETB and can't out speed or power Volo but somehow being in aggro Boros it feels faster and more efficient on some plays even they aren't game winning.
Always really enjoy game knights and the quality and entertainment of the episode was awesome!! I know that the guests get to make their own decks and of course want to make powerful decks that synergize well and pop off but I have to admit that constantly seeing rhystic study and smothering tythe is getting really old. Feels like every episode wether its extra turns or game knights whoever plays rhystic study always takes over the table even if they don't win in the end. Maybe as a change of flavor and to show that not every commander game has to have rhystic study you guys could consider having a soft house ban on these oppressive cards (Dockside / Smothering tythe / Rhystic Study). Personally I would find it way more interesting to see other cards pop off and shine, the only other solution would be to take your own advice and just instantly remove them... but lets be real thats never gonna happen. As always great episode and thanks for always taking Game Knights to the next level!!
This game was a step backwards.
Both jimmy and josh made a lot of mistakes.
Also every player had a rhystic and cyclonic, even that archeomancer was on all decks! They play to huge parts staple tribal and then cards that go on theme with the commander that cant even shine cause the game is too fast.
The Baldursgate set has so much fun cards and we did see mostly nothing of that.
Also i thought they had extra turns for matches like this one.
I normaly love those themed episodes, but this time its disapointing.
Definitely prefer I Hate Your Deck for this reason. I love the turn 0 conversation about the type of experience players want to have.
Drafting the decks might have been a good choice here. More Backgrounds (cause lets be real, I doubt those and the Commanders will start showing up on future episodes unless they are for infinite combos like this one), slower game to allow Dragon tribal to shine, Initiative and the Undercity would have showed up, etc.
Lexi has such fun energy, it was awesome getting to see her go off and kick ass!
imagine if Josh's combo was done all just to have Lexi draw her entire library lol
Man that was wild, Lexie dropped the uno reverse card on Josh.
Wow congratulations Lexi, I hope when my daughter Lexi learns how to play commander she's able to put together a combo like that. ( as long as it's not against me lol)
The narrator : "They'll have to face the EVIL WITCH QUEEN"
Me : "Hi Josephine !"
Me: "Hi Jim!"
I have never been THIS early, can't wait to watch the episode and grab some CLB from my locals on Friday!!
Much love to you guys, I love your content
i really like how as Lexi was playing in her final turn, she just started playing cards on Jimmy's mat. He wasn't really using it anyway, it's free real-estate.
Josh: You should never give time!
Also Josh: I'm not gonna pay the rhystic.
😆😆
Command zone podcast: you need to run more interaction. Game knights: whose got interaction (crickets)
I have never seen Josh + Jimmy team up so well to give the game to a guest hahaha
Though tbf, both Jonathan and Lexi played their respective hands the best they could and were perfectly reasonable in their play patterns and execution, just felt like there was a lot of questionable moves by the two hosts lol
I feel like you should make another episode for Baldur's Gate, I mean seeing Josh and Lexi's decks combo off was cool but, can we see a game of commander next time? 🤣
@@pr0fess0rbadass Yeah you're right.
I mean of course you wanna play the 2 mana ramp spells, of course you wanna combo off, of course you want everything faster, I also do, but it's also sad in a way, because I got the feeling that all the busted things you can do in the other formats, you can just do them also in commander now, a format with freaking 100 cards and a single copy of each. But that's just the evolution of the game I guess, otherwise, what are you supposed to do? Play your janky deck and never impact the game becouse you can't catch up? Yeah I got the feeling that the ''soul" that this format had it's just fading, idk 🤷
Combommander is all that is left.
The only difference is between how many cards and how much mana you need to combo off.
More interaction is definitely needed… Watching players Goldfish with zero interaction is horribly boring.
@@pr0fess0rbadass sometimes i feel like people need to be reminded that EDH is a casual format without any real banlist or ruleset. You know that you can customize the game? house rules? There are no edh tournaments, there is no scene, there is no meta. just dont play the broken stuff if slow games is what you want. Nobody is stopping you. this isnt modern or standard, where the state of the game changing will affect everyone because everyone plays under the same rules in a competetive setting. Its EDH, the dumb time-waste we did at the judge tables while getting high
What a truly iconic game. From the "origin story" of sol ring stealing.. To Jimmy discarding his land and then retrieving it later in the most convoluted and desperate way possible (bless him). To Josh NOT paying for RS at all and then him roasting Jimmy for giving Lexi an extra turn when he gave her like 20 cards to RS... LOL Priceless. The engine going off for Josh only to be blocked by him giving Lexi the solution by not paying RS.. And the absolute shiny perfect cherry on top to see Lexi then dominate and sequence her final *turns* perfectly at the end. The triple slay.. The spice and synergy. Perfection. GG
This was an excellent episode! I've never heard of your guests before, but Lexi sure makes a powerful impression with her game play and smile (probably part of her strategy to lull her opponents into a false sense of security). Jonathan played well and was entertaining. Josh's deck looked fierce, but I was never really sure what it was supposed to do to close things out. By contrast, Jimmy being hampered by mana screw allowed for him to make a decision that sped up the game. I'd be alright if there was a rematch sometime later on.
We are going to need Jimmy to come back with his Miirym deck please!
You would think Jimmy has some hours in gameplay experience to not greed on the tapland.
Knew he was out of the game the moment he played Thrill and pitched his only land.
So sick seeing Johns career blow up, remember when homie had like 5K subs. Was stoked to see him in the thumbnail!
Lexi is my favorite guest on this show ❤️
Jonathan's reaction to Josh going off was GOLD
"8 second ago" - LET'S GO!
I so wanted monarch to be in the game just so that Jonathan could take it and Storm The Castle. Love your music Jonathan you're the best.
This is why you ALWAYS pay for rhystic. It is much less powerful if it’s just a tax of one mana on spells.
What an epic intro! Hawk the hero xD Great episode everyone
Jonathan Young being in this episode makes me so hype.
I love Jonathan Young, I'm super excited. I was hoping he'd be on here eventually.
Where is Jon Irenicus, Josh?! The politics! The intrigue! I’m crushed.
I was also looking forward to this, but the look on his face when that engine was starting to churn says it all.
Jimmy’s second outing with Temur dragons and again mana screwed. I’m happy some things never change.
@@delathenleso5793 He plays in the way that's fun for him, not in the way that will guarantee his win
@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle sure seemed like he had tons of fun being mana screwed, eh?
Before the vid: Rooting for Jon.
He plays dimir: I cant love him more
First creature is a rogue: God damn! Now i must relisten to all his songs.
Wishing Jimmy got to do more with his deck… was looking forwards to lots of dragons.