I upgraded my Mind Flayarrrs shortly after purchasing it. I made a lot of similar changes to my deck but i also added Maskwood Nexus and Arcane Adaptation so when I steal my opponent's creatures they will be horrors as well for even more potential mill
Another thing I would recommend is swap in some low cost horrors that you can get out fast and start swinging and stealing stuff you milled. The deck is a little slow, so cutting mana cost is a way to speed it up. 🤘🏻
Black Market Connections is good here on many levels. We are looking for additional ramp and card draw but more importantly the shapeshifter token is also a horror. One other card I’ve considered is Maskwood Nexus. Any creatures we steal will become horrors and be granted evasion. Additionally the creatures we steal will contribute to the mill on hit.
Yeah. I have both of those in my build on archdeckt. I agree they are both great additions. I would say. Black market connections, rhystic study, phyrexian arena, bident of thassa, reconnisance mission, and that sulk 2 drop are all the draw you need. Maybe mystic remora as well.
Altar of the brood is even better with the background commander, you will create an insane amount of 1/1s off of one instance of mill and if you run sac outlets you can end the game next turn
Damnit. =_=; ... *looks for additions* ... my soul hurts... I want the additions. I plan to grab some of these after the coming set. Need to save for my lone box plus singles.
I, as a green player, would have never thought I’d be so smitten with a UB horror tribal and mill list. What have I done? Nah but I’m stoked to slam Umbris and Toxrill in here and get that value lol
So, somehow I have made a mistake. I followed both videos and ordered all of the add cards but somehow I am one card short in my deck. I did several deck counts and I am at 98 cards + N'ghathrod. I cannot find what I am missing. Here are the 27 cards I removed: Port of Karfell Forgotten Creation Grell Philosopher Chasm Skulker Curtains' Call Leyline of Anticipation Creeping Tar Pit Myriad Landscape Ash Barrens Thought Vessel Temple of the False God Drownyard Temple Syphon Mind Haunted One Pull from Tomorrow From the Catacombs Fact or Fiction Crippling Fear Plague Spitter Psychosis Crawler Dross Harvester In Garruk's Wake Hex Nihilith Dark Hatchling Dusk Mangler 1 Swamp Here are the 26 cards I ordered and received: Shipwreck Marsh Drowned Catacomb Watery Grave Eater of the Dead Phenax, God of Deception Damnation Sword of Body and Mind Psychic Corrosion Bruvac the Grandiloquent Phyrexian Obliterator Fabled Passage Clearwater Pathway (2-sided card with Murkwater Pathway on the back) Morphic Pool Thing in the Ice (2-sided card with Awoken Horror on the back) Toxrill, the Corrosive Umbris, Fear Manifest Jace, Memory Adept Strionic Resonator Mind Grind Court of Cunning Altar of the Brood Maddening Cacophony Cryptic Command Negate Counterspell Illithid Harvester Everflowing Chalice is still in the deck from the Pre Con. I used a deck list to verify that I had all of the cards in my deck to start with and I had all of them. Any ideas as to which card I am missing? I've watched and rewatched both videos several times and I cannot find the error.
So sorry! I know I said remove 1 swamp in the video but I didn’t show it being removed on screen. I actually just leave the basic lands in the deck. So add that 1 swamp back in and you should be set! -Hunter
Hey! Bought alot of these cards as you mentioned, having lots of fun. Just wandering if you (or anyone else) could recommend any 5 or so cheap horrors ? Feel like I'm missing some cheap creatures to get the ball rolling!
That’s a tough one! Lots of good horrors out there. The new Gollum from lord of the rings is one that comes to mind but you should check out all of these horrors! -Hunter scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=type%3Ahorror+commander%3AUB+%28game%3Apaper%29
Cheers man. I looked at gollum! Which one? I'm like the idea of the 50/50 to draw and choose which card order you want. I splashed out on all your choices and also a few extra from comments like duskamantle Guildmage and mindcrank. Can't wait to lose friends 🤣 Great vid!
@@wsmith9306I also found myself in a similar position 😅 I play against my partners upgraded wilds of elderain enchantment deck, and that powers up her low creature very very quickly, so by the time I can actually do anything decent I’m near death 😂 I’m with you, definitely feel like it needs a few low mana cost horrors! What did you end up going with?
Great upgrade. Been working on and having trouble with couple builds to go for. As for a honourable mention I really like the include of fleshWrither as it can search to put in play 4cost /best yet get phyrexian obliterator out quickly
curious as why you choose damnation over kindred considering you almost exclusively tribal ? other than that great list cant wait to tinker with mine :)
Rules question on stack absolving, if i have navigators ruin out can i choose it to hit the stack before Ngathrods end of turn? So it mills four before his thing procs? Navigators ruin is at beginning of end step if attacked with creature target op mills four cards
Yes. Because you have priority. So you stack it so n'gathrod's skill goes on the stack first. Then the navigator, then you pass priority. Then wait for counters or resolution.
Yeah, I just got this deck and was confused by the lack of other pirates as well, given the name and all. Plus, I don't play D&D, so Capt. N'Gathrod comes off as a bit corny without any other context.
@@GuysThatMagic I pre built this commander the day it got released the mana is neve a problem menace is great but it’s even better when they don’t have blockers.
Wondering why your combo choice was phenax/eater, rather than adding duskmantle guildmage to combo with the mindgrind that comes with the deck? Also hullbreaker horror + sol ring + chalice is infinite cast and infinite mana AND it comes in the precon
I upgraded my Mind Flayarrrs shortly after purchasing it. I made a lot of similar changes to my deck but i also added Maskwood Nexus and Arcane Adaptation so when I steal my opponent's creatures they will be horrors as well for even more potential mill
Another thing I would recommend is swap in some low cost horrors that you can get out fast and start swinging and stealing stuff you milled. The deck is a little slow, so cutting mana cost is a way to speed it up. 🤘🏻
Black Market Connections is good here on many levels. We are looking for additional ramp and card draw but more importantly the shapeshifter token is also a horror.
One other card I’ve considered is Maskwood Nexus. Any creatures we steal will become horrors and be granted evasion. Additionally the creatures we steal will contribute to the mill on hit.
Why are they granted evasion?
@@Mikey7217 Menace from the commander
Yeah. I have both of those in my build on archdeckt. I agree they are both great additions.
I would say. Black market connections, rhystic study, phyrexian arena, bident of thassa, reconnisance mission, and that sulk 2 drop are all the draw you need. Maybe mystic remora as well.
Shout out for adding the moxfield decklist link 😍
Altar of the brood is even better with the background commander, you will create an insane amount of 1/1s off of one instance of mill and if you run sac outlets you can end the game next turn
This deck is so damn cool. Just bought a copy and can't wait to play it.
I’ve got it almost fully upgraded, including my own upgrades, it’s nasty🔥
hey would you guys ever consider making a link of just the cards needed to purchase that dont come in the deck?
Damnit. =_=; ... *looks for additions* ... my soul hurts... I want the additions. I plan to grab some of these after the coming set. Need to save for my lone box plus singles.
Thanks for this addition! Really solid and thematic.
Would you find an advantage to making room for any tutors? What would you toss if so?
I’d add a tutor if you really wanted to combo off or you think you needed to deal with the board. I think I’d toss Psionic Ritual. -Hunter
I, as a green player, would have never thought I’d be so smitten with a UB horror tribal and mill list. What have I done?
Nah but I’m stoked to slam Umbris and Toxrill in here and get that value lol
So, somehow I have made a mistake. I followed both videos and ordered all of the add cards but somehow I am one card short in my deck. I did several deck counts and I am at 98 cards + N'ghathrod. I cannot find what I am missing.
Here are the 27 cards I removed:
Port of Karfell
Forgotten Creation
Grell Philosopher
Chasm Skulker
Curtains' Call
Leyline of Anticipation
Creeping Tar Pit
Myriad Landscape
Ash Barrens
Thought Vessel
Temple of the False God
Drownyard Temple
Syphon Mind
Haunted One
Pull from Tomorrow
From the Catacombs
Fact or Fiction
Crippling Fear
Plague Spitter
Psychosis Crawler
Dross Harvester
In Garruk's Wake
Hex
Nihilith
Dark Hatchling
Dusk Mangler
1 Swamp
Here are the 26 cards I ordered and received:
Shipwreck Marsh
Drowned Catacomb
Watery Grave
Eater of the Dead
Phenax, God of Deception
Damnation
Sword of Body and Mind
Psychic Corrosion
Bruvac the Grandiloquent
Phyrexian Obliterator
Fabled Passage
Clearwater Pathway (2-sided card with Murkwater Pathway on the back)
Morphic Pool
Thing in the Ice (2-sided card with Awoken Horror on the back)
Toxrill, the Corrosive
Umbris, Fear Manifest
Jace, Memory Adept
Strionic Resonator
Mind Grind
Court of Cunning
Altar of the Brood
Maddening Cacophony
Cryptic Command
Negate
Counterspell
Illithid Harvester
Everflowing Chalice is still in the deck from the Pre Con.
I used a deck list to verify that I had all of the cards in my deck to start with and I had all of them.
Any ideas as to which card I am missing? I've watched and rewatched both videos several times and I cannot find the error.
So sorry! I know I said remove 1 swamp in the video but I didn’t show it being removed on screen. I actually just leave the basic lands in the deck. So add that 1 swamp back in and you should be set! -Hunter
@@GuysThatMagic Thank you for the reply! I appreciate it! I'm happy that the fix was an easy one. 👍
thank you, it is my deck, and i play it every week - and i find some cards in my deck!
I see how nighthowler is an auto include, I play it in my rogues deck and it just wins games in mill
Id love to see an updated version of this or a version built around Umbris ❤
Hey! Bought alot of these cards as you mentioned, having lots of fun.
Just wandering if you (or anyone else) could recommend any 5 or so cheap horrors ? Feel like I'm missing some cheap creatures to get the ball rolling!
That’s a tough one! Lots of good horrors out there. The new Gollum from lord of the rings is one that comes to mind but you should check out all of these horrors! -Hunter
scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=type%3Ahorror+commander%3AUB+%28game%3Apaper%29
Cheers man. I looked at gollum! Which one? I'm like the idea of the 50/50 to draw and choose which card order you want.
I splashed out on all your choices and also a few extra from comments like duskamantle Guildmage and mindcrank. Can't wait to lose friends 🤣
Great vid!
@@wsmith9306I also found myself in a similar position 😅 I play against my partners upgraded wilds of elderain enchantment deck, and that powers up her low creature very very quickly, so by the time I can actually do anything decent I’m near death 😂
I’m with you, definitely feel like it needs a few low mana cost horrors! What did you end up going with?
Great upgrade. Been working on and having trouble with couple builds to go for.
As for a honourable mention I really like the include of fleshWrither as it can search to put in play 4cost /best yet get phyrexian obliterator out quickly
Rise of the dark realms is a game ending card i play that card its crazy and nobody expects it
curious as why you choose damnation over kindred considering you almost exclusively tribal ? other than that great list cant wait to tinker with mine :)
Kindred is a great card but I felt like the deck needed at list one “oh shit” button. -Hunter
@@GuysThatMagic that’s fair :) great work overall tho :)
Rules question on stack absolving, if i have navigators ruin out can i choose it to hit the stack before Ngathrods end of turn? So it mills four before his thing procs?
Navigators ruin is at beginning of end step if attacked with creature target op mills four cards
You control the stack. So you can have Navigators Ruin go off before Captain.
Yes. Because you have priority. So you stack it so n'gathrod's skill goes on the stack first. Then the navigator, then you pass priority. Then wait for counters or resolution.
@@GuysThatMagic nice thank you
Surprised to not see mind funeral in this build
Great card. I just tried to add cards that hit the whole table and not just a single target. -Hunter
@@GuysThatMagic Makes sense! Thanks for the feedback
Yeah, I just got this deck and was confused by the lack of other pirates as well, given the name and all. Plus, I don't play D&D, so Capt. N'Gathrod comes off as a bit corny without any other context.
Also, they blew the chance of calling the deck "Little Ship of Horrors."
That’s a great title!
Um sir what about the black board wipe that kills everything but horrors that’s not Garruks wake
Which one is that?
@@GuysThatMagic KINDRED DOMINANCE HOW COULD YOU NOY
@@jakesully3620 ohhh. I thought it was a specific card for horrors! You can add that card if you’d like but it’s still 7 mana…
@@GuysThatMagic I pre built this commander the day it got released the mana is neve a problem menace is great but it’s even better when they don’t have blockers.
Wondering why your combo choice was phenax/eater, rather than adding duskmantle guildmage to combo with the mindgrind that comes with the deck?
Also hullbreaker horror + sol ring + chalice is infinite cast and infinite mana AND it comes in the precon
Definitely another really cool combo! Just didn’t put it in.
mind grind doesnt come with the deck
@@0nn3 he is talking about the Artfact, Mindcrank. That goes infinite damage/mill with the Guildmage
duskmantle guildmage + mindcrank is better combo
How about rise of the dark realms?
Ah, you mentioned it near the end haha.