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- I get my hands on BMW's 1st Hybrid Touring, their 330e xDrive Touring, is it worth concidering for anyone who doesn't pay BIK?
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I've had my 330e saloon for just over a year now. Saving £80 a month in BiK compared to the 420d i had before. Over 60 % of my driving is now pure electric, I charge at home on 3 pin plug and worked out electric running costs are 25% compared to Petrol costs. On a longer run use Hybrid mode and I easily get 70+mpg. On pure electric I can get over 40 mpg with re gen braking and a relaxed driving style. Free charging at supermarkets It's an absolute no brainer. Why do so many car reviewers jump into a PHEV then start fussing about the 0-60 times and cornering on 2 wheels. Only journalists do that in cars they don't own ! You are missing the whole point of a PHEV which for the vast majority of people can use as a full EV on those weekend outings and shopping trips yet on longer runs returns over 70mpg. Another point that is frequently missed is just how comfortable and quiet the cabin is. You cannot tell the difference in noise when the engine cuts in or when the battery takes over. One final point - who puts M sport brakes on a PHEV when it's all about NOT touching the brake pedal it's about regenerative braking and as for heated steering wheel ??? Why do you need that when you can pre heat the whole car on BMW phone app 15 mins before you set off and the whole car is toasty warm !!! Come on Journalists up your game ......
very good level headed comment.
Well said Tony!
Solid solid comment
His insistence on the point of the lack of power without the electric motor available also seems completely moot. Why would your batteries ever be completely drained? Either you were driving the car on track and drained them through many multiple hard accelerations or you did 20+ miles on electric only, and this is obviously not the kind of car for either of those things. On the road you won't be using 300hp very often or you'll lose your license faster than you drain your battery, really you'll use the power once in a while for an overtake and then the car has plenty of time to top up the battery again, and if you're in town stuck in stop and go traffic you can go full electric and your journey might take you 45 minutes but it's only actually 5 miles and again you've still got plenty of charge left.
This is a review of a 330e as if used as a Sunday morning B road blast car, which is an irrelevant take.
I took delivery of a 330e X Drive MSport Pro Touring (mouthful!) about 3 weeks ago in Dravit Grey (nicer than Mineral😉). Prior I had had a Golf R 7.5, Golf R 7 and an e92 335d so I am comparing it to decent drives.
I must say I absolutely love the 330e. I think you missed one of its biggest pluses - it is such a refined car. Harry Metcalfe said the x5 45e was in Rolls Royce territory, this isn’t too far behind. Between the drivetrain, acoustic glass and adaptive suspension it is sublime. I am averaging also about 70mpg. To be honest it makes you want to relax while the R made you want to grab it by the scruff of the neck.
But when you want the 330e to go it is savagely quick mid range so I have no performance complaints.
My daily return commute is about 60 miles and I can plug in at home so the car suits my lifestyle, I accept that for bigger commutes the 30d is the better choice (but not as refined). Because of lockdown I bought this without my usual weekend test drive, in fact I hadn’t driven one at all (madness I know) so I was taking a risk but all the reviews were 👍. I was apprehensive when it arrived but after 3 weeks I can say that so far this is one of the best cars I have ever had. Hopefully the honeymoon continues.
I own E92 330d and I'm considering getting this generation, either 330e or 330d. What would you say are the pros/cons engine-wise between your old 335d and 330e here?
Great review! My father got this 330e xDrive Touring in November. He has to drive about 50 km a day and charges the car at home, so this car fits very well and has a fuel consumption about 2,5 l/100km (so at least twice as good than a Diesel engine). I personally drive the car approx twice a week. The electric range depends very much on the weather conditions. In winter the range can be less than 15km and on a warm day you can drive 50km only with the electric engine.
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Good comment. Similar experiences on my G30 530e in Finland. Consumption 2,0 l / 100 km with an average of 40 km / day. In winter the range can be 50 % compared to summer.
I have an 330e M-sport 19”, have driven it 30000km in Sweden. 58-60km on pure electric in the summer, and 40-42km in winter. No problem! And always use the navi on longer travels.
I think what many journalists (not just you) easily forget ist that with "only" 184 hp, about 80% or 90% of the cars around you will have even less power... and on a family trip our '06 VW Sharan 2.0 TDI with 140 hp will be loaded up to 2 tons easily with 5 passengers yet that power still feels perfectly adequate. I guess that just comes from being around new cars all the time (no offense though, keep up the great content!)
All is relative. I am considering changing to a 330e coming from a V60 D4. My Volvo is 1600kg with 190hp and 400nm. My main concern is the lack of torque, but the electric engine should make up for that. The 330i is really nice to drive, but financially it doesn’t make sense in my case.
The point of having a 330 is having more then adequate .. otherwhise you could just go for a 320i/d.
I’ve just bought one of these and took it for its first long run today - Derby to Glastonbury, around 170 miles. I think that this car makes sense for more buyers than just BIK buyers. This was not a company car purchase but a private lease. Got a great deal on it. Reason I say that it is not just suited to benefit in kind buyers is be due j think it will suit our needs perfectly. We do loads of short runs taking the kids to school and my wife driving a couple of miles to work. Rarely more than 20 miles a day during the week. For us getting a great mpg and having the ultra creamy silent ride you get is more important than dealing with the less suitable diesel for these kinds of journeys. I was interested to see what mpg I would get on today’s long ride and it managed a very respectable 55 mpg. I occasionally used the battery hold button which allows you to accumulate more reserves in the batteries and I did notice the love mpg figure drop quite noticeably when I did that. Tomorrow I drive back without any reserves though again I will be able to use the battery hold button to build that back up if I so choose. But I think Joe is a big wide of the mark here when he says you are unlikely to see more that 28mpg once the batteries are depleted. Overall I’m incredibly impressed.
So today i returned from glasto to derby, this time running the car from 0 miles available from the batteries. I noticed though that over the course of the trip (which I did entirely in hybrid mode at the national speed limit) 3 miles were accumulated in the battery from regen breaking. Amazingly I achieved 46 mpg. Really please with that. On the odd occasion when I did floor it extra boost was there if I wanted it. It will be interesting to see what mpg we get this week over all the short runs on a full battery. I’ll let you know.
@CarZen thanks for that! I’m absolutely loving the car now I’ve owned it three months.
@@lostcomposer Just took at ~3 degree C 20 mile journey across London with a starting claimed electrical range of 2 miles. When I got home it had done 10 of those miles on electric only. I've had the car for 18 months now and it still surprises me. Low average mph really helped today, but the regen feature of this car is really hard to get to grips with in a short time and none of the reviews I've seen have been able to articulate it properly in my experience. In 18 months my average mpg is 84 with a charger at home, and at many destinations (I work freelance so commute to different places almost every day). Couldn't be happier with it.
I’ve been living with a 330e saloon since August and have covered nearly 19k in it so far. I’d say on average I get around 40 miles of electric drive daily with what it generates itself in addition to the full charge I give it overnight as most of my journeys are over 100 miles. I never notice a significant power drop when my electric has depleted either.
I also have averaged 66mpg since having the car in August. So it’s better than my old 118d for sure and I pay very little company car tax and get enjoyment every time I get in the car. Personally very pleased with it
Have had mine since October 2019, and covered 26k in it, and totally agree that there is no significant power drop! The reason is that there is a buffer left on the battery when it is depleted, so you will always have the xtraboost power available. Best 3-series I´ve owned.
Thanks for your comments! I'm considering a 330e as a company car. Do you recommend to go for the xDrive model?
@@NotteboomTars not driven the xdrive so can’t really comment. Depends on location, I survived a UK winter with no trouble on RWD
@@Slippers84 I think if you get the xdrive version, you can switch it on and off. Off being rwd and on being 4wd. But I'm not sure.
I have owned my 330e since December and for me it is the perfect workhorse. I have owned several 330d estates in the past but with the recent BIK changes this makes perfect sense . I only travel upto 40miles a day for my work commute and with charge points at work it costs very little run especially with the very low Bik. Performance wise, I do not miss my previous 330ds. There is the normal BMW driving pleasure and the electric boost surpasses the 330d. The car manages to ALWAYS keep some battery in reserve even when the electric range is depleted (10 seconds of boost always in the tank). I have managed at least 35 miles of pure electric range with the warmer weather (15⁰+). yes the noise pumped into the cabin Is artificial but seeing the dials light up blue with boost is worth while!
Great video Joe! I drove a 330e from Solihull via Stratford Upon Avon, to Swindon and back via Stratford last weekend. I got over 45 miles of electric power with re-gen (not mentioned in your video) with a combined MPG of over 65! I cant see a 330D getting that ;)
It still has full electric power when empty. I only used 0,63L/10km on long journeys with drained battery. I also always get at least 30 miles of range when it’s 10-20C outside
I have one and I love mine! Got mine from the first week of production of these 330e touring models.
Honestly Joe, I've watched several 330e videos and still always left with so many questions, your video pretty much answered all my questions and then some. Thanks!
I am driving this 330e in the city only in electric. My average consumption over 25k km is 3.9 litres. I often charge for free… and insurance is cheaper plus i don’t torture the engine on short 4 km trips… plus in a hybrid you can precondition the car - heat up or cool down. There are clear advantages
I have this very same car right now, and I used to own a 330e (G20) Sedan non-XDrive before. The thing that many people don't understand about this car, and BMW is not very good at explaining either, is that the numbers for the range are neither right nor wrong. One way of using this car by driving it in electric mode, which forces it to use only the battery until it runs out of energy. In this mode, you get anything from 55 to around 25 Km of range, depending greatly on the outside temperature and how you drive it --at city speeds you'd get the most. However, that's not the end of the story, because once the car has depleted the energy in the battery it'll continuously recharge it and switch to electric mode every time it has enough energy and gets the chance. A typical long distance trip in this car results in you driving about 1/3 of the distance on electricity, which for a 500Km trip means about 170Km, which is way more than the total range advertised by BMW. For this reason, the advertised range is neither right nor wrong. It is correct in the summer if you drive at around city speeds, and it's wrong in the winter (for the worse) or during long distance trips (for the better), it all depends on how you look at it.
Watching from the US wishing we still had the wagon here. Beautiful car!
I have gotten more than what BMW has specified. So it is possible for sure to acchieve the numbers.
Today with the AC on 18c degrees I got 61.2km. Car is Specified at 58km on a single charge. The most I’ve got on a single charge is 66.1km. I got my car back in late July 2020 and my avrage MPG since then (9 month-isch) is : 130mpg on a total of 8077 miles driven.
Of course the weather temperatures plays in. Below 10c degrees the range is somewhere between 40-50km range depending on pre-conditioning the cabin.
Around 0c degrees its between 35-42km also depending on pre-conditioning the cabin or not.
The lowest I got on a charge was 27km when it was -15 to -18 degrees here in Stockholm this winter. But during that time the car would not start in electric mode either, it would start on petrol and warm up all the electric systems first before it even would let the car go into full electric.
For people who want to learn to get the max out of a full charge of battery BMW videos on effecient driving are pretty good.
The 130mpg is from the Factory (ExWork in the system). From the first time I filled the car up and until now, the MPG is even better.
Great Video Joe, I’ve currently got a 530e and overall it’s a lovely car, I agree with you about the electric range and then the suffering mpg. For the typical commute it’s perfect, however, you have to plug it in to get the best from it (luckily I can).
The main reason buying one over here in Ireland (even as a private buyer) is to avoid the harsh VRT tax. The equivalent used 530d is 10k more over here so, a hybrid makes perfect sense. Keep up the great work 👍 thanks
@Banned Again trust me the VRT makes it a no brainer.. 530d adds over 10k in tax
I managed just over 53 mpg from my 530e over 3 years and 40,000 miles by plugging it in frequently. Beautiful car and even though the electric range is very small, it's surprising how many short journey's you do! Have come out of the company car scheme now and bought a 740i - not quite so frugal...
Yes, in the nanny state potato land we get anally violated by the VRT 🤮.
I have 330e sedan highest range I got electric was 31miles but mostly around 25 miles. I daily drive it for home to work and back. Total miles driven 13k and from that 8k fully electric. For me it works on the economy side and since it's tuned also from performance side.
We drive the 330e sedan with RWD and it actually is possible to achieve those low consumption figures. You just need to let the car do its thing. Adaptive + GPS navigation precalculates the route and actually makes both engines work together. The electric motor engages for example uphill and helps the combustion engine so it doesn't need to shift down. It goes electric only downhill too. We often drive a 500km trip with a lot of Autobahn, we get something like 7 liters per 100km with an average speed of 120km/h there. On the daily route to work and back with Autobahn, B roads and city all together, we already had a fuel consumption of only 2 liters per 100km, of course using up all the electric charge. The thing I wanna say is if you let both engines support each other, this drive train CAN be insanely efficient. Here in Germany this car costs us with a list price of 70.000€ as much as a Mini Cooper S 5 door would cost. In our case as a work car, a nobrainer.
And in our car at least, you never run out of electric energy. Especially in XtraBoost, it recuperates quiet hardly and makes sure to recharge in moments of little load. In Hybrid or Adaptive it's pretty similar. It always leaves a few percent of electric energy so you at least get the 252hp it does outside of XtraBoost.
I got the 330e xDrive and average around 30 to 35 miles on electric. Longer journeys just put the navigator with the adress and it uses petrol or electric depending on the road conditions. Example longer hill climbs it switch then to petrol or declines then to electric.
Fantastic review Joe. Totally on point re: the compromises in this kind of technology, but also how it can make sense for certain buyers. Keep up the excellent work! Your channel deserves much success.
I have a 70 plate 330e M Sport saloon. Regarding battery range; temperature and weather have a impact on range. However, I’ve had 28+ miles on battery alone, on multiple occasions (I think I can get over 30 miles with the temp over 20C). Plus on a 95 mile journey I’ve had over 86MPG with about 96% of the battery to use. Even in the depth of winter cold and rain I’ve had over 75mpg on the same route.
A 345e would be nice 👌🏽
The M340e would be better.
Doesn't make any sense for a hybrid. Do you want an environmental friendlier car or do you want sports car?
Porsche makes PHEVs and sports cars in one, so why can’t BMW do the same?
@@DaveDVideoMaker Well, they obviously do that for tax reasons and outfitting a Porsche sports car with a hybrid system is pretty senseless as well.
Renault added a V6 engine to a Clio back in the mid 00s. It only had two seats, and the engine was at the back. That’s what I would say doesn’t make sense.
My wife has a 330e touring (RWD) .. she does mainly short journeys every day and almost never uses the petrol engine. Her avge mpg is >90mpg! On a longer run, we see 36mpg from the petrol engine. Pretty damn good.
I’ve had my 330e since last July and I’ve worked out how to get 30 plus miles on electric....use the cruise control.
Joe, try and get yourself in a Mercedes E300de, just got one and I think its pretty awesome for a hybrid. Mainly because it's still a diesel for the long journeys, but add the hybrid to it, it's still plenty quick!
Another great BMW video
I would get the 330 D Msport Pro Edition Touring in Dravit Grey
I have that car!!
@@robertsparks7290 and what’s your opinion on it please
Would be great to get the 330e, 330d and 330i on a roadtrip or economy run to see the real world ranges of them together...👍🏻
Excellent review Joe, love the new 3 series touring. As its so heavy and the mpg is seriously impeded I wish they'd stick the B58 in and call it the 340e
Great review as usual. But please bear in mind that these BMW PHEVs always keep a bit of power in their batteries. You really have to push hard for quite some time to lose the electric boost (I’m not talking about the Xtraboost).
I've had mine for about a month now. And I just love it.
I run a 17 plate 330e M Sport that is RWD only and a claimed e-range of 25 miles but the best I have had is 18 before the ICE kicks in. What makes these cars great is the regen capability. My work commute is 30 miles each way and get 21 miles on pure EV going to work and 25 miles pure EV on the way home (due to the lay of the land). Running i Sport mode has a harder regen capability so works out more economical over time. The car will always keep 9% charge for stop Start and will use some electric power when first starting the petrol engine (I presume to pre-heat the engine). Now that they do an X-Drive estate, I would consider another 330e, although the X45e is very appealing (unless I win some money and can afford the Audi E-Tron RS!). Main thing for people being put off these due to the low EV range, don’t think you have to rely on the ICE if the energy is depleted because the regen is very good.
BMW are really stepping up interior quality in their lower models. Which means for the next gen 5, 7 & series they’re gonna need to do something special
I have just bought on 330e touring m sport plus, done up like an M3 touring with the M3 rims and quad band exhaust in sapphire black with wheels to match an absolute dream, I love the M tech stitched seat belts such as good touch 😁😊
I have the saloon / sedan shape, and the most electric only range I’ve got out of it is 47km (29.2miles). Which I think is pretty impressive. It’s the same whether I put it in hybrid eco pro, or adaptive mode. Speed wise it’s a mix of 50kph/80kph/100kph roads. For a 40km each way daily commute with the ability to charge at the office for free, (and not to mention cheaper road tax here in the NL for a PHEV), it’s a choice that works for me
Amazing that this weighs more than our current F25 X3 35D 😳😳 Thanks for the review as always Joe 👍
This is why I watch your videos Joe, even though it's a beemer, no sugar coating. Here's the pros and the cons, here's what it does well and does not do well, verdict. Seriously you and Jonny Smith do my favourite reviews on cars and it's a testament to you that he was on TV. Keep up the good work sir and enjoy ya M3!
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Nice video, but you seems to get very strange results....I have an 330e sedan, have driven it 26000km in Norway where I live. 55 km on pure electic in summertime, and 40km in the cold Norwegian winter. No problem at all!
I get similar e-range from my Q5 55TFSIe. Sadly the 3 wasn’t available back when I ordered the Audi
…and about the same for my X3 xdrive30e:57km best range in summer, 40km winter. Did a 2700km caravan (@1200kg) trip in Sweden last summer averaging 12l/100km and a 1100km skiing trip with roof box and 4 adults averaging a 5.5l/100km. So, these cars can actually achieve some good fuel economy if you use the navigation to help the car anticipate the road ahead on your longer drives. At home, I drive electric all the time as my travels are quite short, total avg is now 5.5 @8000km. Thank you for the nice review👍 One more thing, I have never experienced running completely out of electric juice since the car saves a bit of a buffer.
Fantastic review, especially the critique of plug-in tech - many thanks! I recently hired one for a week and never plugged it in, never used the battery hold button and yet always seemed to have electric power for acceleration and tootling around car parks. I just left it in hybrid mode the whole time.
Has anyone else had this experience that unless you want to do pure electric miles, then you don’t actually lose any performance if you never plug it in.
You are correct. Bought my 330e used and it came without the charging cable. I drove it without plugging in for about one month and noticed the same behavior as you.
The battery has a minimum charge level of ~20%, at which point the petrol engine will automatically charge it up to maintain that minimum (just as it will charge up to your desired level if you push the battery button next to the shifter). So even with an indicated 0% left on battery, there is still ample charge for Xtraboost mode/Sport mode. Likewise when you charge it up to an indicated 100%, the battery is really only holding an 80% charge. These buffers were built in to ensure consistent performance and longevity of the battery.
I have just been loaned a 330e X drive by BMW for a week while my 330d X drive touring was having some work done. It's been really interesting to compare the two. The 330e initially impresses with its smooth and quiet start on electric and seamless transition to engine power. However, after a few days I really missed the performance of the 330d which has so much more low down grunt and is quicker for overtaking. The 330e sounds a bit rubbish too if you rev it hard. It's a surprisingly thirsty car too when running just on the engine. Typically 37mpg over 53 miles driven fairly gently over a mix of country roads (17 miles), motorway (31 miles), and city roads (5 miles). For the first 15 miles the average only just crept above 30 without any electric power. My 330d would be over 40mpg by that point and then do 50-55mpg average (winter vs summer) over the whole route. 59 was my best ever. For mainly short journeys, charging the battery every time you park so running mostly on electric, it might make sense to pick the 330e. Once that charge has gone though, it's a much more expensive car (on fuel) compared to the diesel. It's not saving the planet either, over my daily 106 mile round trip commute. With a flat battery, it uses nearly 3 gallons of fuel vs 2 gallons in my 330d. Fully charged, it would still use more, plus the cost of charging it. BMW have told me too that most customers who buy these as company cars don't bother charging them up at all! Isn't the government so misguided / uneducated that they have decided we should all be encouraged to buy these PHEVs yet in my use case, I have proven that they can easily produce up to 40-50% more CO2 than a big diesel? A comparison to a 320d would be even more striking I'm guessing. Another big difference is that the standard suspension in the 330e feels very stiff compared to the adaptive suspension mine has (in comfort mode anyway). It was noticeably much less comfortable on some roads. Good on smooth sections though. I'm guessing the reason that 99% of the 3 series I see every day on the M1 are a 330e is that they are all company cars and bought because of the BIK tax set up. All supposedly saving the planet......🤣
A very honest and insightful review Joe. My next new car needs to be a 4WD estate and you’ve helped to confirm what I thought I already know - and that’s the fact that PHEVs on long journeys just become ICE cars with smaller engines, smaller fuel tanks and a boot full of batteries!
You didn’t mention one other issue - the 330e x Drive boot drops down to 410 litres compared to 500 on the ICE cars. That’s only slightly larger than a Golf! Pretty much removes the estate’s practicality.
2021 330e M Sport, Premium Package, 2WD, non-Touring. I get a solid 25-28 miles of pure electric in South Florida on a regular basis. That is for general city driving and work commutes when driving for for economy. If I drive aggressive, its more like 20-24 miles. If I drive for maximum range, I have gotten 33 miles a few times. At what point does it make more sense to get the 330e vs the 330i? That answer is always. Its cheaper to buy, cheaper to own, cheaper to maintain, and gets slightly better performance. Its basically a slam dunk. If you are worried about higher repair costs, then get the MBI from Geico. $64/year with $250 deductible for up to 7 years/100k miles. Maintenance will likely be cheaper on the 330e for a few reasons. Because you will use the ICE less and the motor is far weaker than the ICE, the overall car experiences less wear and tear on the belts, tires, brakes, and many other items, despite the vehicle being slightly heavier. I would not be surprised if the brake pads lasted 100k miles for a user that mostly uses the vehicle in all electric and hybrid modes the vast majority of the time. As for operating costs, its cheaper in virtually every case except for the user that only does very long road trips, as in, 1000 mile+ highway only road trips and nothing else. Realize that the 330e even with a depleted battery will still get around 34-36MPG in the city, while the 330i will struggle to get 23MPG. That little advantage in highway MPG (hundreds of miles after the 330e battery is depleted) is lost pretty quick once you get off the highway. The tax break is the real killer. It makes the 2022 base to base $4300 cheaper to buy the 330e. That buys a lot of electricity and fuel.
wow I had a m340d touring for a week or so and managed over 48mpg cross country with all that performance.
Finally a honest review of this car consumption!!
Many thanks
For those of us who have to pay Benefit in Kind tax, this is the car of the moment. I've had mine for 6 months now and I am stunned at how good it is. I can put my bike on the retractable tow bar and can fit my greyhound in the boot with ease. It is enjoyable to drive when the opportunity arises yet is so refined.
Keep it in any of the three Sport modes and you will only use the battery for extra power. This way the battery virtually never depletes due to regen under braking, etc, and you can still get around 35-40mpg if you aren't planting your foot everywhere you go - I personally average 33mpg doing this and I am fond of a spirited drive. By doing this you end up with a reasonably fast car that you never need to plug in without paying huge amounts on BIK. You've essentially cheated the system!
BMW are on a roll.
I’ve gotten 28 miles on Electric on my 330e xDrive and even 27 on pure highway @ 65 MPH. More typical is 20-21 though. In US winters I get less than 15 miles on a cold day.
Greetings from Texas where the only tax is the sales tax at 6.25%. No other taxes at any point of ownership. Cheers!
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As an owner of a 340d touring, these are great cars to drive
Currently have one of these as a rental car via Thrifty. Delivered full of petrol with 0% battery charged. Despite the car having done 2,000 miles on delivery the charging cables were sealed in bags unused so previous drivers have simply experienced a heavy petrol car with poor fuel economy. From a domestic plug socket the car takes about 5 hours to fully charge at which time you then have a very limited range of about 30 miles on pure EV power. Fuel consumption petrol only is quite alarming struggling to reach 30 mpg so unless this is to be a company car and/or you can constantly spend a lot of time plugged in to then pretty much always do very short trips it is not really a worthwhile consideration for a private buyer. Charged up and on Xtraboost it does give that moment of exhilaration pressing the magic button but this is a high price to pay for the shortcomings. Thank you.
Have an 2019 530e (RWD) with the bigger battery and the longest range on electric I managed was 57 km (35,5 miles) on highway (110 km/h) during the summer, but I ordered mine with the efficient 17" tires (Goodyear) and kept the fan off the whole journey with the windows down (next car will be ordered with sunroof), so yes it's possible to achieve the the 34 mile range on electric.
Great video Joe. Always spot on buddy!👌I prefer & love the brilliant punchy 3.0d (B57 Engine?). With its Massive torque, great gearbox, quiet and smooth drive. 👌
I got a 2019 430i and I'm looking at this as I want to change to an estate car, partly because I like the extra space, partly because I am tired of being worried about getting my 4-series stolen, it was stolen once, I think the estate is somewhat less desirable in that respect. Looking at this I still like the design of the older model, particulary the inside as I absolutely HATE the large screens that get full of dirty fingerprints and is always less easy to use than just the buttons.
Great review, as usual. I particularly liked the pros and cons of the hybrid for taxes, long/short trips...
I've used 8% petrol (about 35miles worth) and 116m of electric the last 8 days since the car was filled. I charge from midnight to around 5.30am and of those hours 4 of them only cost me 5p a unit. My equivalent mpgs are well above the BMW claimed 150odd when you factory in a gallon of petrol costs about £5.50 and at 110 kWh units doing around 3 miles to a unit I really cannot complain. Theres a place for a car like this and that's on the drive way of the sensible everyday user who's happy to trickle along at 20-25miles a day max as this can do done for quite literally pence.
I have the 530e xDrive Touring and just drove a trip 511 km. The average fuel consumption was 5,6 l/100 km (50 mpg UK). Average speed was 82,4 km and driven on pure electric was 62 km (one the one sharge before start). So I thing it really depends on how hard you are pressing the right pedal :-) . @Joe Achillies are you gonna test the 530e as well?
Great , solid , estate for the whole family.
Have you tried the Alpina B3 Touring which is based on this BMW , the non hybrid version, I mean .
That's a pretty cool estate as well !!
I do typically get early 20s on electric from my G20 330e but maximum achievement is 35 miles so it can be done. On long runs mid to late 40s. I did 900 miles over two days leaving with a full battery and no charging and did 46mpg.
BMW should make an M340e xDrive touring.
I bought a BMw 330E x-drive 4 months ago. I live in Sweden (that it is cold here) and come for the most part longer than 26 miles
should be interesting this summer.
Thanks for the review Joe. I've been considering this even though I'm not on the company car spectrum. I like tech and the gadgetry here with EV mode and hybrid modes just appeals to me more than a pure IC car. I can also charge at home and 95% of my journies are within 25 miles. I completely agree that the EV range is the real downside here. If it did a solid 35 miles (probably claimed 45) then it would be much more attractive as I really don't want to lose that performance on longer road trips for example. The new Merc C-Class seems to tick more boxes here - longer EV range and also more powerful engines so if you are out of battery juice you can at least fall back on something pokier. I almost wish they'd added the EV tech to the 330i or 330D instead for that reason, but first and foremost a bigger battery would have been better. I'd sooner it gained a little weight than ran out of poke.
I drive a G21 330e xDrive Touring for that very reason, the low BIK. It’s a brilliant car if you can make the finances work for you.
Hi Joe, you asked for feedback on Leccy range. I have the 330e RWD G20 saloon. I think the Elec range on this is a fraction more at 37? I regularly get between 27 - 32 miles on a full electric charge. Interestingly if you use the Anticipatory Hybrid Drive I actually got 49.4 electric miles within a 93 mile total journey last week due to the regenerative braking topping the battery back up! You must have lead lined boots 😉😉🤣🤣👍🏻
Hi Joe, another great video.
The BIK percentage for company cars is partly based on the ‘electric only’ range so that’s probably why BMW claim it to be higher than it is 👍
It's worth mentioning that too get best results you must use the navigation.... it sorts out the magic for you... have 330e saloon done 28k so far mixed journey weekly... have from new averaged 56mpg....
I’ve just ordered my company car near enough same spec as this in the video and I cannot wait
EPA set the electric only range at 23 miles (20 for AWD). Although, one tester found that driving at highway speeds seems to return better range than city... which is odd since it's typically the other way around in an EV.
Thanks for the excellent videos Joe... just ordered one... *and* a pair of New Balance trainers ;-)
Hi Joe, always love watching your reviews. I’m picking up my new 330d Touring next Wednesday and can’t wait. I’m coming from an M140i (which I will be so sad to see it go but can’t keep both!) - I was so pleased you hear you praising the 330d engine on this video. I’m quite excited to drive my new car, I wondered if you have done a video like this but in the 330d? Ive seen you drive a M340d touring but don’t think ive seen the 330d. Cheers and keep up the great work! Lee
I have the 3.0d engine and he is correct it is absolutely fabulous. Smooth. Quiet. Very very powerful, you will not be disappointed. Just had mine remapped too so my 5 series is even quicker now..! Good luck.
@@cJ-cr8gp great to hear buddy, thanks for the reply!
Our X3 30e has done 24 miles on a charge a couple of times, but I was driving like a vicar to achieve that. Ordinarily, 20-21 miles is about max, but may increase in the warmer weather.
Great video. I consistently get 70kms /43 miles on electric only in my X5 45e. 70% city commute/ 39% motorway. Just as well as 20mpg awaits when using the i6. That said it’s a creamy smooth delight to use even at 20 mpg.
And I get that 109% of the time 😖
Great review, as always! Personally I would buy an A4 estate (basically cause I’m an Audi fanboy), but this thing is great! Would still get 330d.
Most people don't drive more than 20 miles a day and will never have to use the engine provided you plug it in obviously and when you go on the occasional long journey you don't need to worry about it unlike a full electric so it makes perfect sense for who can afford a car like that or company car drivers however it doesn't make sense for the small amount of people that do hundreds of miles up and down the motorway
Hybrid touring is best of worlds and great informative review on this and keep up with the great work and content 👍
The 545e is the one to go for
Quite a price difference between the two
@@dreamcrusher112 there are some good deals in then currently
Not everyone wants a 5 series size car
New car prices are getting silly, I've got a 5 year old 330i touring for 16k...even on PCP the residuals can't be good enough to make sense.
Unusual that the X-drive badge on the back is missing 🧐
HI Joe, HEV's are great for around town driving but not motorway driving as the MPG will drop if your motorway driving on a daily basis but going to the shops and the school runs etc and as long as you avoid the M25 for example the MPG will improve and should be around 50 MPG > ( Note:- The MPG is based on other HEV's on the market to date) if the car is left to work out the most economical way from point A to point B without using that heavy right foot. Its all about gentle use of the throttle and use ECO mode if the car has that mode. I should also point out you need to recalabrate your driving style with a HEV to get the best out of the car at all times. Also avoid the Xdrive model as that will also reduce MPG just like most other cars. Best Wishes Alan B P.S. If your on the motorway all the the time the HEV is not the car for you and should opt for the 330D.
Actually M25 is so regularly stop start or reduced speed it’s more favourable for regenerative braking. The issue is on longer fast drives. In my PHEV Q5, I do mostly electric driving in town but on the autobahn the 2L petrol kicks in and sucks fuel from the small fuel tank, but regeneration works well too.
Most trips are 70/30 electric/petrol. Long trips the ratio flips. Especially if I can’t charge at my destination, which is most of the time.
I've wawa few of these videos on the 330e as. I'm considering one, everyone seems to say they get bang on 34 or more miles from the electricity... You're the first one to say otherwise
Going to sell my 330D M sport E93 and get one of these definitely thanks for the review !
I own the same vehicle, without XDrive. I can easily reach 45 Kms (27miles). I don't use the engine so much to be honest. I put gas every 2 month or so when I do a long trip (highway). Fantastic car. Most of the time I drive on Electric mode. the Xdrive is non sense to me (too heavy)
I have a hybrid for exactly the reason you said, I work 15 miles from my home (where I have a fast charger), so when I get in from work I’ll plug it in and it’ll be fine for another short journey later on if needed... averaging 115mpg over the car so far (I’ve put actual fuel in it twice since March 1st)
Our relatives have a 530e. It achieves about 40km. That's quite good since the claimed range is 46km NEFZ (and NEFZ isn't really close to a real-world scenario, unlike WLTP).
A back to back test with that new hybrid Peugeot would be nice.
I love your fly by shots.
Great to see some very honest feedback on the 330e. Great for company car drivers but if not then the 330i or the 330d are better. Personally feel the 3 series Touring in the beat estate car on the market.
Great car. Would be nervous spending nearly £50k on a 330d (my preference) now, with the electric revolution going on. So perhaps this version makes more sense. Thanks Joe for explaining all.
Thanks Joe great review! 👊🏾and thanks for keeping your promise to start reviewing BMW PHEVs 👍
Imagine this car with the m135i map 306bhp and 450nm then adding all the electric aid at the same time... surely that’s possible and would be crazy 👍
You can map the older ones to around 350/400bhp.
Enjoyed the video - nice to see a slight change in pace for a "sensible" version of the wagon. One thing that I think it needed though while doing the spec part - some coverage of the impact on practicality the batteries have... Be interesting to see details of the boot space, as it's something BMW seem reluctant to share in images!
Down to 410 litres from 500 in the ICE cars. Not easy to find!!
Was going to buy one of these, I dont think I will bother now and stick with the 320D charging at home costs £5.80 for 30 miles its way more expensive than petrol.
I have the 330e sport line its doing 45 km on BATTERIE in every day use + air-condition
From my understanding the thing to do with these is make sure you use the programmable climate control which will get the car warmed up while plugged in, but crucially will condition the battery also...right?
My commute is 20 miles each way. But 50% of it (in miles) and 75% of it (in time) is in town traffic, the first portion being on a highway (dual carriage way). I think this car would be perfect for that. I’d set it up to use petrol/gas for the highway part and mostly electric for the stop start town traffic part. It would be near perfect for the 80% of its use with range for going further at weekends. If I still lived in England and had a company car, then the UK tax part would be important. I don’t. I live in the US now. Although I do get $5380 federal tax rebate and (if you can keep to $50000 retail) another $1500 Massachusetts tax break. That’s quite significant.
Nice bit of VT there Joe as always...🎩
Hope you don't mind, but felt compelled to mention that after watching your videos since lockdown started I've been slowly turning into a bit of a BMW fan. However much I'd love an M3 touring - when they come out - or any kind of 3 series touring for that fact, I've taken my first step into BMW ownership with a 2012 E84 X1 20D Efficient Dynamics Sdrive. Not the most exciting I agree, but as we need something affordable to run, my wife was keen on a smaller SUV, I fancied a bit of rear wheel drive and from what I've read it's a good first step into a BMW, it ticked most of the boxes.
Anyway, just wanted to share that with you, thanks again and as ever, stay safe and well...🎩
Hey Joe, great review as always. On the subject of cold engines, I've read that gentle driving, say 2000-2500 rpm, is better for your engine than protracted idling because the temperature of the oil rises quicker.
I hear this too,,,because higher revs get the oil up into the top of the engine quicker,,,,was probably the guy on Carwow I think?
Joe, I've had 7 BMWs as company cars. Loved each one, except the last, which was a hybrid- it is a must for company car drivers from a tax point of view but the worst car of any BMW by far. Ludicrously heavy and underpowered. Just doesn't drive like a BMW.
If you're not a company car driver - avoid at all costs. You've been warned....
Agree, exactly what I basically said in the video.
@@JoeAchilles1 Hi Joe, I have to buy company car but I don’t like underpowered car:) I have 330d touring at the moment which i love it a lot; it’s just 3.5yrs old but pcp 4yrs terms is coming to end. I like M340i very much but I have been told it’s not going to.work from company car point of view or if I had to choose pure electric car which one you would recommend? What options I have. I don’t like Tesla’s ..everyone is driving it 🙈 And I like touring cars:)
Joe great review. Especially the leave and come home in electric. I usually start in xboost to get some oil temp however. But The car is s3 fast without a doubt. And great to drive.
Stuck between a 330e touring or 530e saloon for my next car.
Very nice and superb car!!! Only 2 useful features are missing: Driving Assistant Professional and Parking Assistant Plus.
Of sure, a 330 d xdrive makes it more fun to drive!!!
Drive to work and back each day makes sense it’s a very good commuter but not the ultimate driving machine :)