Toscanini about Beethoven and Wagner

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  • @annamariafacchiano1688
    @annamariafacchiano1688 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Che bello ascoltare questa converszione tra amici.conosciamo il grande Maestro in una dimensione diversa,più umana,più vicina alla nostra,ma sempre ad altezze irrangiungibili!

  • @corellithebest
    @corellithebest 15 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MAGNIFICENT! I am so impressed! How much Toscanini was impassioned about music! And to think that he knew personally such greatnesses as Verdi and Puccini!

  • @Michaelbos
    @Michaelbos 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing all these videos.

  • @LordMgls
    @LordMgls 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:49
    Notice the cellist's hand (left hand playing the cello part)!

  • @DanielConcerto
    @DanielConcerto 12 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    For people who still are confused - this is not maestro Toscanini in the video but Barry Jackson, the actor and his colleagues in the 2009 dramatized documentary.
    2:16 ''The Pope doesn't understand who should be called a Saint, the Pope and those imbeciles don't understand anything''
    Assuming the recordings are valid, I wonder whether it's only a derivative of an artist's imagination and emotional experiences or an insight impossible to grasp for many.

    • @pedrohenriqueprata
      @pedrohenriqueprata 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw these episodes on the public television network here in Brazil and I remember people saying there that it was based on recordings of conversations between Toscanoni's family, which were made without him knowing.

  • @realmush6794
    @realmush6794 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God, this is incredible. I'm getting emotional listening to him describe this. Idk what is it about it, but it's getting to me. Bravo.

    • @philiphoward123
      @philiphoward123 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You aren't listening to him

  • @AnryK2690
    @AnryK2690 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again, Ditogam has enriched our musical and cultural understanding greatly. This is so great video, and I agree to maestro about Beethoven and Wagner in every single word. As for conducting, I prefer Karajan. When hearing Toscanini's Wagner and many others, I feel that music is flying from me like a fast train. :) I cannot see everything. Karajan has depth that you may see nowhere else. Each sound of his music is deeper than complete symphonies from others.

  • @fairlytaleofnewyork
    @fairlytaleofnewyork 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so amazing...
    Just speechless. Thank you so much for posting.
    I am so moved about the way he expressed about Beethoven.

  • @metoosiam
    @metoosiam 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marvelous Performance!
    The earth has the Sun; Toscanini is like the Sun.
    Bravissimo!
    Sarah

  • @ditogam
    @ditogam  15 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are absolutely right !!!

  • @srothbardt
    @srothbardt 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the GREATs playing one of the GREATEST of the GREATS.

  • @AmyBellinger
    @AmyBellinger 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool to think that my lifetime overlaps with his, whose life overlapped with Verdi.

  • @annamariafacchiano1688
    @annamariafacchiano1688 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Parole appassionate,ispirate dalla profondità della sua genialità

  • @zinhoferraz13
    @zinhoferraz13 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    sublime

  • @FabioPBarbieri
    @FabioPBarbieri 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Toscanini was not very familiar with Bach, because he learned to conduct at a time when the music people wanted to hear began with Haydn. But he is reported to have said that Bach's Mass in B was better than Beethoven's Missa Solemnis; considering what he thought of Beethoven (and how well he performed the MS), this is astonishing, and leaves us aching for an AT-conducted Mass in B or Matthaeus-Passion.

    • @elimaurer9491
      @elimaurer9491 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FabioPBarbieri Mass in bm has always been my favorite

    • @bbailey7818
      @bbailey7818 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Toscanini was quite familiar with Bach as many of his comments show. But what he was not familiar with or sure about was the proper performing style for his music, or the high baroque in general, so he tended to leave it alone. When he did perform it, the result was closer to period practice of today, more spare and lean, than his contemporaries like Stokowski.

    • @ajaymanoharan5496
      @ajaymanoharan5496 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bach's B minor mass is the greatest choral work ever. Period! (my opinion anyway)

  • @petrof4056
    @petrof4056 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing what Toscanini thought about music!

  • @YTM021807
    @YTM021807 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excelente!! Basic!
    For the first time I could see the famous clip of him rehearsing in an empty hall
    It is (click) 7:18

  • @MrTifossi83
    @MrTifossi83 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Toscanini, la musica habla, con su prodigiosa batuta, Genial.

  • @waltertaljaard1488
    @waltertaljaard1488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    O maestro Toscanini; even Oswald Spengler wrote that Wagner was the end of music, because nobody could exceed him.

  • @annaamato8938
    @annaamato8938 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ♥♥♥♥♥🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷

  • @telsport
    @telsport 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Golly...that Toscanini fella thinks pretty much the same as I do about Beethoven and his 9th symphony. (am I being haughty by saying that?)

  • @keyar87
    @keyar87 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    "... but that clown is ME, DAMMIT" :)

  • @ditogam
    @ditogam  15 ปีที่แล้ว

    So true!!! I do not like when he talks about Puccini or his colleagues.

  • @ditogam
    @ditogam  15 ปีที่แล้ว

    In this movie he did not talk about Bach, but he speaks about Verdi, Puccini, Aida, his Love and Colleagues and so on. I have uploaded them.

  • @Jimyblues
    @Jimyblues 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could use a hero right about now- 👆🏽

  • @faustomariani7851
    @faustomariani7851 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lvv

  • @SatchmoSings
    @SatchmoSings 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Qbendanny Fidelio is not great opera but it is great Beethoven.

  • @MichaelHansenFUN
    @MichaelHansenFUN 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arturo Toscanini died in 1957 IS THAT HIM?

  • @faustomariani7851
    @faustomariani7851 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Repubblica uitaliana

  • @gaemp
    @gaemp 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @alainwilliam Bach was too far from his temperament and culture. Toscanini was mostly a "Man for Theatre".

  • @annamariafacchiano1688
    @annamariafacchiano1688 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Toscanini: Patrimonio dell'Umanità (ad eccezione dell'Italia dove non si sente mai il suo nome e,peggio, non si trasmette mai,almeno in ricorrenze speciali, un suo concerto)

  • @gaemp
    @gaemp 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @AfroPoli American propaganda...? He was 100000% Italian, for his temperament, cutlure and attitude to music and Theatre!

  • @bevaconme
    @bevaconme 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    talk about a cult.

    • @bbailey7818
      @bbailey7818 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean like the Furtwaengler or Celibidache cults?

    • @bevaconme
      @bevaconme 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      how many actors have been hired to impersonate furtwängler or celibidache? (and i’m not even counting zeffirelli’s “il giovane toscanini”.)

    • @bevaconme
      @bevaconme 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      how many actors have been hired to impersonate furtwängler or celibidache? (and i’m not even counting zeffirelli’s “il giovane toscanini”.) oh, right: “taking sides”, which doesn’t exactly por-tray w.f. as a cult figure.

    • @bbailey7818
      @bbailey7818 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Celibidache none that I know of though his sexist mysogynistic attempt to keep a woman out of the 1st trombone chair of the Munich Phil would make a great absurdist comedy. Furtwangler three times that I know of, most famously Taking Sides.

    • @bevaconme
      @bevaconme 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      clue me in as to the other two, per favore.