Is the 2019 Toyota Avalon Worth $12K More Than The Toyota Camry? We Find Out!
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- ( www.TFLcar.com )The Toyota Camry and Toyota Avalon are the two largest Toyota hybrid models. But which one is better? We partner with Redline Reviews to take a look at these two new 2019 models to find out.
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Loved the collab!
1:17 As of now I have given up hope in mankind
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Thanks for the fun collaboration guys! One thing to note, Tommy and I did take both out for a drive and we will be posting that part of the video later this month. Always a pleasure seeing the TFL team at all the media events and see you guys soon!
Redline Reviews: This was so cool seeing this collab! Like when Marvel Superheroes are in each other’s movies.
Thanks Dude. It’s always a pleasure to work with you!
That avalon grille is going to eat alot of bugs on the highway
I have the 2015 camry SE with the wide grill, yes lots of bugs get eaten, and yes its hard to clean, but I still love it.
One of the first things I noticed right away when this Avalon came out. They went crazy with it, hurting the overall design. And yes the bugs will be nuisance.
*A lot.
I actually have an avalon and I drive in the country a lot and it’s actually not that hard to clean
I work at the Toyota plant in Georgetown KY and it amazes me how quality driven this place is and how all the employees take pride in everything they do!
How many temp. agency workers are there ?
My 2018 XSE V6 was a pile of junk. Delay/shift shock accelerating from a stop or rolling stop. I fought with Toyota for 9 months-Lemon Law, arbitration. Toyota lied continuously and when I confronted them with evidence of their lies they said they wouldn't be speaking to me anymore on this issue.
Mr44rr Okay, so how did the arbitration go?
@@afcgeo882 Not good. Toyota said they made "substantial repairs" when they made none. They said no tech was able to duplicate my car's issue. Records show they did several times. Tech said my car accelerated from a stop like it was stuck in neutral. Toyota said that I said that and not the tech, etc...nothing but lies. I lost.
Mr44rr You lost because you had no evidence of anything. I know very well how arbitration works.
Looking at the used market the price difference really shrinks a lot. That's where the value of the Avalon shines through
The ventilated seats and larger tablet display make the Avalon the winner for me. Plus..the Avalon has buttons on the center tablet and the Lexus ES has that stupid mouse pad thing so the Avalon is the clear choice for ease of use as well.
I have a 2008 Lexus es 350 that holds up much nicer than the 2019 Camry my friend recently purchased. They're worth the price !
I bought a used 2005 Avalon from a friend and it is a luxury car, whereas the Camry is a middle class family car. Both are extremely reliable mechanically. When I drive my Avalon, I feel "rich" and "upper class"! That's the difference.
I’m getting older and I agree! 😃
I have a 06 limited. It’s definitely true I love that car
Us old farts want all the luxury we can get. I vote for the Avalon, even with it's hideous front.
Love the new designs of all Toyota models. I prefer the XSE version of both the Camry and Avalon. Wish they start offering AWD.
My spouse and I 1st owned the Camry, we were smaller back then, and the car worked great for us. In 2019 we bought the Avalon Hybrid and we have loved the fuel mileage and the extra room.
Designer : hmm, sir how big do you want your grill
Toyota : yes.
Perhaps I missed it but did you compare the room in the rear seat of these two 4 door Sedans? For me if it has 4 doors I always want to know what the rear legroom is like.
I just watched a video yesterday on TH-cam. Kbb maybe did it, I believe its 2.4 inches more leg room. Not a huge difference in a car that's really 3 inches longer. They both are getting big good choice either way
Avalon hands down, night and day comparison.
For now I'll be happy with my 88k mile 2011 Avalon Limited that I purchased in late August 2019 - lots of space without that "cramped" cockpit feel.
Drive it for yrs. U did good.
@@GUITARTIME2024 - Thanks and I plan on it. I purchased it for $11,250.00 which IMO isn't that bad a price these days and to me well worth it.
Yup! I’m planning to buy the 2021 Avalon in 2024.
@@iishyxvietxboyii That'll still run a "good buck" at 3 - 4 model years old though. Great cars nonetheless!
I usually watch TFL and Redline separately. I enjoyed watching the collaboration. I felt like watching one of those DC crossover shows. hehe
No invite from Scotty Kilmer?
I'd take the Camry it it had those beige leather trim, especially on the steering wheel. Since not, quite happy with my 2.0L Civic. That Camry's 2.5L and my 2.0L engine is my most favorite power-train currently in production. A great choice for long term ownership.
"most favorite"? are you wearing diapers?
@@errorsofmodernism7331 😂
Should had used XSE model against the Camry
Lord Commander Manny XSE looks more attractive imo
Should had used? Did Lord Commander go to public school? If not, you deserve a refund.
I’m guessing they wanted to compare both cars with the hybrid model and the XSE does not come with a hybrid option
Sundeep Singh I believe the Hybrid is available as SXE.
Camry is a real nice car, I'd take the Avalon would enjoy that more than would if had to chose over Camry.
The Camry is usually the boring selection in this segment, but this newest model look fantastic! The interior design looks somewhat more attractive than the Accord in my opinion. I just wish Toyota would provide an AWD option! FWD is good enough for most northerners, but AWD is superior!
J Moore I agree. That AWD off the Rav4 would kill, but they don’t want to sacrifice Rav4 sales.
The real question, is the Lexus ES worth the extra money over the Avalon? I never thought it was.
From everyone whom I have read, they said it's really not. Logo, lil More fit and finish and quieter cabin , and suspension is the differences. Moto man just asked the same questions. I'm on the fence for lex vs Avalon . Heck actually the new xle camry trim is very nice as well.
Judging by sales figures, it isn’t. The ES is a dressed up Camry.
I would buy the Lexus used. Over a 5 year period, the Lexus will depreciate more than the Avalon. That’s just how luxury cars are.
George L
No, it’s not a dressed up Camry. I’ve heard that for decades and the ride is a night and day difference.
@@CP-pb3pj actually they used to be very similar. But the latest ES rides on the same platform as the Avalon does now. Used to be the camry pre 2015 and earlier. They do use a lot of parts still from one another. But the sound insulation, and other parts are lil better in lex. But is it worth the extra cash thousands for some differences and very similar size all 3 cars have
TOYOTA AVALON 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
2020 Camry has Android Auto and cooled seats on the XLE/XSE trims as options
Experioxity from who are you hearing this? Link?
Rick Frank I work for Toyota. Plus I have 2020 Camry’s at my dealer with these features.
Experioxity hey that’s awesome. Thats on a XSE V6? Any chance the Camry will be getting a heated steering wheel? The Corolla and Avalon both have them
Experioxity also what would you choose between a XSE V6 Camry and Touring Avalon?
Rick Frank XLE/XSE 4-cyl and V6 have it with the Driver Assist package. Camry for price, Avalon for size and beefiness
I always liked old Avalon’s from 1990-2000. Never fails and very roomy inside. The new one not so attractive and I will go for Camry.
Camry
Love "Redline Review" with Tommy filming!
Bold is just a way that Toyota says “oops, we screwed up”
Toyota never screws up bro.
You guys didn't show the rear seats in the Avalon. Another big deciding factor is the front seats. Are the front seats better than the front seats in the Camary? Are they more comfortable? I'd there more leg room in the Avalon?
Good vid. Do more comparisons over various makes!
I've always had a Lexus since 99... I have to say Toyota is getting nice. But why no panorama on the Avalon but it's there on the Camry??? CONFUSED???
Which seat is bigger and more comfortable?
I've never understood with the 2019 Avalon; no lockable glovebox but the Camry has one in addition to all previous gen Avalons.
Interesting! Makes no sense, does it?
I’d much rather the Avalon over the Camry. It’s larger and nicer and not as mainstream as the Camry or Corolla. Yes Camrys and Corollas are excellent cars but I like something a little different and upscale.
yes, the dipstick is in the same location, behind the steering wheel
Oh snap!!
how is the seat comfort between Camry and Avalon ?
Tons of videos of the Atlas!? Other than the one featuring Atlas vs Pathfinder, I have not seen any others.
Nice collaboration!
Love the new grille on the Avolon
Would you guys please consider doing a touring avalon vs a XSE V6 Camry Review?
The Avalon grill looks like the mouth of a basking shark. By the way, being able to use the seat heaters with the ventilation on is very nice if you get in the car wet during a cold rain.
$45k for this Avalon and it’s not even fully loaded limited with all options?? You can get a new Fully loaded 2019 Lexus ES (Ultra Luxury package) with all options (Triple LED headlight, panoramic moonroof, full power trunk with kick sensors, Noise Reducing 18” Wheels) for $48k. (And this is in California, so I’m sure you may be able to find it slightly cheaper elsewhere). I know b/c I got one. Alternatively, you can get fully loaded Limited Avalon with almost similar features for $39k.
Watch out for sidewalk poop.
Such a cute couple, nice pick on the Avalon for you two
Come to eastern Canada in January when the temperature drops to -25 Celcius and I will take you to the Toyota Dealership Service Department. It is quite interesting.
Umm, I'm in North Carolina, so Im gonna pass. It was 80 today.
@@GUITARTIME2024 Nice, enjoy it. It was 40 here today.
I like the new guy seems very knowledgeable.
I'd take the camry and I'd smoke a lot of weed in it
The Avalon has that thanos grill chin that I hate! I wish Toyota can redesign their grills to be more subtle.
Anyone know what the warranty options are on either from Toyota direct or dealer? Prius used to have bumper to bumper lifetime warranty on gas or electric if you called Toyota to get it.
Well this comparison should get thrown out the window since no one pays MSRP. With the dealer discounts, the Avalon is a no brainer.
Those were the days
I wish I can own them both but....
Can't really afford
The Avalon is much nicer but the grille just ruins an otherwise great looking car imo. It looks okay on a black or white car but otherwise it just doesn’t work for me. I’d just buy a Lexus ES over the Avalon since they’re almost the same price
So if you live in a warm climate which battery is better? and why? better MPG?
Je P Lithium-Ion will always give you a smaller battery with more energy storage than a Nickel-Hydride battery, so better eMPG as well.
I’m getting old so I’m more into Avalon. 😊
If I'm going to spend over $30,000 for a car it's going to be a Lexus Over a Avalon or Camry
I bought a new toyota camry, its alright but i kind of regret it now. Couldve bought like 3 used camry’s and 3 accords instead.
@@miguel9943 I really like Lexus cars I think they're so reliable plus I like the design and styling
Julius Adams True, im thinking about getting a used Lexus after i save up a bit. They are the most reliable.
@@miguel9943 yes this is true
if could afford it would get the Avalon trd no hybrid
Perfect duo right there!
The grill is there to eat the Camry
Are these two dating?
The Redline review dude is annoying, he is not knowledgeable enough review cars. Another video with him I will unsubscribe
imho,,
either Camry or jump to Lexus
I have 2020 Toyota Avalon
No. Just buy a lexus. For 15k more youll get a japanese made sedan vs an american made vehicle. Not that toyota is a slouch in reliability here. But nothing beats japanese made quality.
Sorry to burst your bubble, the ESs are now made in the same factory as Camry and Avalon (Georgetown KY). You will have to look at a different model if you want Made in Japan (IS or LS for sedans).
Collab 🤯
Come on guys..I luv both but y’all know this is really not a comparison..because both is in kinda two different classes here 😂😂 am just saying but I’ll take both still
avalon has same price compare to camery in China, but lost cool haedlight and carplay
Toyota need to do less design on there cars
They’re going to allow another company to design for them?
WOOOOOAAAAHHHHHHHHH ITS THE TOM BOMB AND SOF BAE
Der Camry ist super hübsch aber finde ich den Avalon besser. Also ich würde mich für den Avalon entscheiden wenn der in Deutschland wäre.
1:11 wtf Are you talking about, it's a grill and a bumper, both cars have hard plastic WTF even a S class has PLASTIC
I would drop down to the Honda Fit or Kia Niro. Or across to a Mazda CX-5 or RAV-4 hybrid. The Avalon is better for adults in the back seat for long trips and better looks. The Kia Niro and Hyundai Ioniq have a lifetime warranty for the big hybrid battery. These are put together and the body is built in Georgetown, Kentucky.
Hate the Avalon grill
I bought my XLE Avalon with just floor mats as an option for $32,000. The dealers are stuck with them only selling about 22,000 of them for the year unheard of for a all new body style. I'm guessing kids just out of art school designed the body making it undesirable now for seniors and young adults. If they designed the body to suite the seniors as they always did for the Avalon, I am sure the sales figures would have been closer to 80,000 for the year for a whole new body style. One good thing deep discounts for this ugly body. Since I am not going to trade this car in, I do not have to worry about the very low trade in value.
NOTE: I have to lower the seat all the way down in order for my head to squeeze in, thanks to the lower roof line, not at all senior friendly.
lith ion batteries are shit in cold climates. ask hyundai how their hybrid is working in Canada. ITS SHIT
Avalon is ugly. That price doesn’t justify anything. Even the extra size isn’t really helping. Better screen on the Camry is better too.
The grill looks like its covering a hole from a crash.
There is a lot of busy notices on the info touch screen ...the processor must not be as good as in the Camry if it can't resolve loading screens without giving a busy notice onscreen...the tail light is also used as an emergency flasher that is why it has to blink continuously
I don't care for anything hybrid
Why does Toyota/Lexus get uglier as you upgrade
No
Camry more sportive.
That Avalon's interior is color scheme is dreadful.
Yeah I bet both of these Ladyboys do indeed like the wood.
U know Redline only Loves Mazda 🤣🤣🤣
Buy a gasoline Avalon…..
Ugly front end- Looks like a snow plow
I’d rather have a RAV4. It will hold its value better than a sedan, has more power in hybrid form, has higher ride height, and all wheel drive.
EVERYTHING IS PLASTIC? ...WHAT TO TOYOTA?
Sofyan!!!!!!!!!😀😊😊😊😊
Never buy a used German car….disaster. The German cars of the 1970s were great- easy to repair.
12k is a lot of money, Avalon has cramped interior. Rather have a Camry or es350. That’s worth 12k more
Vanneker The interior in an Avalon is bigger than the Camry/ES350.
@@afcgeo882 your right! Much bigger
Apple carpray 😂
That grill is embarrassing
It's like CHEVY and GMC so the answer is no.
Scott W. yeap
I pick the 2020 Dodge Charger R/T.
Q: Which one should I buy? A: Neither
Great cars when theyre new, but when they gey old theyll be throw aways because there is so many components which will fail over time that you wont be able to justify fixing them
What!?!?
The Camry is the most reliable Sedan available today, full stop.
What are you smoking?
You must not study reliability charts.
@@justinfleury5702 im talkimg about all the electronical tech aging, not reliability, and yes my old man has a 98 camry, and its very reliable
@@bigbopper546 A lot of the reliability rankings take car electronics and accessories into consideration. The Camry is the best there is. The only way to get something better would be a Lexus.
Of course as any car ages you'll have small issues with accessories. Fortunately automakers are now trying to improve the quality of the interiors and whatnot since the drivetrains and body's are so well built these days they outlast the rest of the car.
big bopper 🤪
Nope. Course any Toyota isn’t worth 12 cents.
@Hal 1000 since you donated your last 2 cents with that stupid comment you better save save save
Avalon any day with better interior but if you were on budget 33k for Camry is tempting considering long term.
I'm a huge Toyota Fan, and have owned several Camry's in the past! I currently drive a 20 year old Avalon that has been in my family since new, and travel all along the South and East coast in it to this day!! Sign me up for the New AvalonI I recently drove a 2019 Avalon Touring, and its so Damnnnn Nice!!!
L.C Footman
Nice! How many miles on your Avalon?
Hi. My mother’s Avalon is still going as well and it’s 22 years old, she has since passed away and now my son drives it to work every day. They are awesome cars.
I have a 2000 Avalon with 311,000 miles on it. It needs some maintenance but that sucka still goes.
Damn nice!!
But is it 12k more than a camry for just a nicer interior
Yes thx for this. I was wondering exactly the same thing. My camry XLE is great, but in 2 years im thinking the Avalon might be the next step. But for same features. I was eyeing the lexus es 350, but that's 47k starting and I could get an avalon xle around 37 to 40k easy
You can get a new Fully loaded 2019 Lexus ES (Ultra Luxury package) with all options (Triple LED headlight, panoramic moonroof, full power trunk with kick sensors, Noise Reducing 18” Wheels) for $48k. (And this is in California, so I’m sure you may be able to find it slightly cheaper elsewhere). If someone is trying sell you basic ES for $47k, they’re trying rip you off. I know b/c I got one. Alternatively, you can get fully loaded Limited Avalon with almost similar features for $39k.
@@ONI1013. yeah I'm just going off quick window stickers. The real deal in dc Is the avalon. Has higher rebates and is now cheaper then xle trimmed camry with all incentives . Either way, I think you cant go wrong with any of them.
David Lusk - Yep can’t go wrong with any of those Toyotas. First car was Celica, Two time Camry owner, had a 2013 Avalon Limited, and now 2019 ES. Good luck.