@@nathansmith7153yes they do. But seldom for minor damage, unless it is an old, and less valuable ICE vehicle. I believe the point is that the repair on an EV is so high that it reaches the write-off threshold more easily.
I know, I used to speed past them early in the morning as I pedaled my bicycle to work. By that time the milk floats were often crawling along on diminishing battery capacity as the vehicles returned to the dairy. Even with fully charged batteries, the milk float was much slower than my bike, especially on the down hill sections of road and uphill still no competition.
@@BAC_Monoare you rly comparing a microwave to a vehicle with a internal combustion engine that does not has all the NM from the 1st sec? Electric vehicles should be cimpared to other EV's in races As muscle cars are compared to other gaz guzzlers So sh tf up ;D
Once a large enough percentage of "early adapters"......relatively wealthy novelty seekers have experienced the enormous repair costs, the limited ability to have these cars serviced, traffic jams caused by people without money, pushing their degrading batteries to the absolute limit, very high insurance premiums, cars bricking themselves for either no or nonsensical reasons...and unfortunately stories of entire families being incinerated while just going about their daily lives, the tide will turn hard AGAINST these things, big time. I'm not speculating here, these are all hard truths associated with the current technology being used in these cars. The people lying about the issues these cars have, and the ones keeping their heads in the sand, are the worst enemy the EV movement could possibly have. It's almost like a death cult is calling the shots for them. Recognizing limitations and slow, steady evolution is the way forward...not the clusterfuck currently playing out. Remove all the tax breaks, subsidy on cars, subsidy on charging, grants, company tax advantages, 0% finance, leave it to the market to decide and no one would ever buy one of these hideous turds!
@@ronwilson8759 100% correct. How will you make tires? How will you pave roads? Smelt steel? mine copper? How will you even manufacture wind turbines? Solar cells? None, absolutely none of them can exist without fossil fuels.
@@glennso47 the 50kWh my rooftop panels are producing today says otherwise. Granted, they came on a boat from Malaysia, but that was a one-time pollution expense.
? It's only worthless when the battery *dies*. Which might happen in 20 years or so. Granted, BEV makers should offer "crate" battery packs like you can get a crate engine.
@@user-kj5ys3vw9p Yeah, because everyone knows electric cars are mostly mechanical, not electronic and electric, right...? 🤣🤣🤣 Let me guess, you are one of those geniuses that think Hamburgers are made with Ham....
Here in Houston we just had a hurricane blow through. The power is out all over the city! This includes charging stations both public and in home. It will be a few more days until power is widely restored. OK so you take a few days off. Forget this crap! Keep your expensive EV's!
@@anndivine9989 depends some, a lot, have generators, they do this because people will show up with HUGE trucks and start filling their tanks and wait till the power goes out and then the cc machines dont work so they just leave. Happened a ton in North Texas when we had the power outage because of the snow. They were rolling power around so that people could get heat.
My Model Y can go 0 to 60 in 4 seconds, is AWD (without complicated central torque couplings), and can drive 300 miles on rooftop solar for $0.30/gal GGE. BEV is going to drink ICE's milkshake this decade, and people who don't understand that either are living in denial, or getting paid to not understand it.
@@SuperBartet Thanks for proving you have no idea how this works. That is beside the fact that JLR has been a money losing pit on their combustion engines that are comically unreliable and cost a ridiculous amount to keep running. You must have been in a coma for the last 50 years or something...
People have realised the most expensive item most will ever buy next to a house is now disposable like an old phone or washing machine and literaly has no second hand value combined with dificulties with charging and just poor usability the whole thing is an environmental disaster.
@@markiangooley there's been around 5 million EV sales in the US, not counting early 20th century sales when they first became popular. Unless BEVs get more dangerous with age, they're much safer than ICE wrt fires etc.
@@tachikaze222 That is nonsense.. Why are they telling us to not park them in the garage and fire depts 🎇have no plausible and economical way to put them out... you have 20 EVs for all I care, just don't park them in garages or near normal people
I was parked around a EV charging station watching the people charging there electric vichecle most of the people that I observed looked frustrated while waiting for the car to charge
yeah most BEVs can and do charge slow. Even Teslas run into this problem at crowded stations. Last Saturday I had to wait an additional 30 minutes due to crowding and slow charging speeds and it sucked. But it will get better this decade and next as we build out bigger & better charge spots.
@@davidhoogendijk6675 I have been diving cars ,pickups, and trucks for all of my life. (77) I was a heavy equipment mechanic for 45 years. I have NEVER had a vehicle I was driving catch fire. I have had a few vehicles that I was welding on catch fire, but it was EASILY extinguished. EV fires will NOT be extinguished. They even burn under water. I live in the country, and I routinely travel into the mountains, far from any chargers. I do not even have cell phone coverage where I go. I can pack a couple of extra cans of gasoline, how could I pack and extra battery? If I lived in a city, and I could charge at home, maybe it would be workable, but not where I live. PLUS, there is not enough infrastructure for many EVs charging at night. Cali already has told people to not charge their vehicle at night. Your hurt feelings do not overpower my common sense.
Nope ICE vehicles are plummeting in numbers sold Globally. There’s going to be about 17 MILLION EVs sold Globally this year. China is now about 50% Plug-ins as of the previous month and EVs are growing there rapidly. Norway is already 90% New EVs Sales and the rest of the Scandinavian countries are already getting close to 50% EVs.Only the US is really behind of the three Major Markets.
Won't happen. People are broke and cars on lots are sitting longer all the time. They biult expensive vehicles with features that aren't needed and now they are stuck with tgem
@@RonaldSkancke Corporations always eventually shift their expences, taxes, fines, etc. to paying customers. I see no reason, what would prevent them from doing the same with EV-related expences and damages.
I'm in the vehicle industry. ICE vehicles are doing great. Always have. Our shipping company won't take EV's for obvious reasons...like battery explosions!, which have destroyed many a car carrier.
My Grandfather switched from a horse drawn wagon to a Model T Ford around 1924. He didn't switch because the government gave him a tax credit, and he didn't switch to impress the people over in the next farm in North East Arkansas, he switched because the Model T was better. Now, get me an EV that is BETTER than my ICE pickup or Mustang, and I would consider switching. Even if I was to settle for "just as good", I would need an EV that could go a REAL 300 miles, (both uphill and downhill, against a wind or with a wind, with the lights and heater/air on, at 110 or - 25 degrees F, and with 1 to 4 people in the car), I can refuel in 5 minutes or less, (at any one of one million fuel pumps nationwide), I can drive for 20 or more years, (my 1995 Mustang and 2008 Ranger are going just fine), and I can buy "out the door" for $35,000.00 or less. I know, that's a hard act to follow, but why should I settle for less than what I'm currently driving now? My Grandfather didn't.
Sure. In fact when You're buying a Renault EV in Europe car and battery are sold as two separate transaction but as for battery it's rather leasing than ordinary purchase. Means You do not own the battery. It's possible answer to Your question.
I say that EVs have a place in the future of driving, but not the ONLY place. Things like ethanol and hydrogen should be explored just as deeply to give us a wider option base
Here in Europe, environment is misused by the government to get extra income. In the Netherlands, road tax for EV will rise significantly. They claim the heavy EV are distrying the roads. In Belgium, tax will come for charging equipment that can be used public. That is just the beginning
The issue could be solved with some difficulty, by converting the Electric vehicle to Petrol or Diesel. Start with battery and engine removal ! There are too many Electric vehicles in junk yards already. Something has to be done.
In Queensland, Australia, second hand motor traders are required to give consumers a mandatory warranty. Seems to me that in such a commercial environment, second hand dealers wont be selling EVs. EVs will either be auctioned off, or alternatively, sold privately. Not much of a future for second hand EVs, they might be tossing them out like broken flat screen TVs.
One thing that doesn’t get mentioned is the impending tax on electricity. One of the biggest government incomes is petrol tax. If that dwindles they will tax something else that everyone needs and because electricity will become dependent on even more the taxes will grow even higher
Petrol cars use far less fuel than ever before. The CO2 alarmists have held sway for far too long. It's high time the evidence behind their claims was investigated. Why didn't the car manufacturers look into all of this years ago? I was at Toyota's 70th anniversary celebrations in Mulhouse, France back in 2007. I asked a senior company executive about this. He just shrugged his shoulders and said "We just do what the government tells us." I was amazed. Motor engineering is a numerate discipline requiring real-world problem solving - yet the claims made by so-called 'climate scientists' were not and have not been called into question.
The truth is, since WWII, the physical form-factor and energy density of batteries of today, have only been reduced to 1/5 of there original size (there are only so many molecules of materials available for anodes and cathodes). On the other hand, the smallest single function vacuum tube's glass envelope (the peanut tube) in 1945, will hold more than thirty billion transistors, batteries will never catch up!
Stop lying. Do you live in “Coal-slyvania”?? In the US renewables have now passed Coal as an Electricity Source and Coal is plummeting rapidly. States like California are already OVER 50% renewables and use Battery Storage to cover most of the Peak Demand in the Evenings. This is scaling up rapidly as Coal goes away and Renewables continue to increase rapidly with more and more Battery Storage.
Have not found a single reason that would make me even consider an EV. Just because something can be made, doesn't make me want to own one. I have not talked to anyone yet who actually likes their choice to buy one, but trying to sell their mistake is not an option.
Most modern ICEVs are almost completely software-driven and remotely accessible too thanks to the new wave of more advanced driver-assist and collision avoidance features. The biggest problem with EVs right now is lack of battery standards making cost-effective battery replacements with known-good ones difficult if not impossible and often ludicrously expensive. If there were standards guaranteeing cost-effective replacements for 20+ years, worries about battery replacements wouldn't drive used EV prices down so fast. With standards, you also get the option of fitting a new-gen battery to an old EV instead of being stuck with whatever obsolete tech the car launched with. When battery tech changes so much every 3-4 years, spending 15k$ to put in 3-4 generations old tech when a battery replacement inevitably comes due isn't particularly appealing. With ICEV, there isn't much of a dilemma to be had as the fundamentals have been fundamentally unchanged for 20+ years apart from tighter emissions control and more stuff being locked behind computerized walled gardens.
All modern cars are software driven, not just EV's. A modern combustion engine car can have over 100 computers approaching even 200 or more. Batteries are form fitted to a car, and are therefore platform specific. Just like you can't just take an engine out of a Chevy or a Ford and slap it into a Toyota or a Hyundai. There are already cars that have been upgraded to next generation battery tech, from Tesla's to Nissan Leaf's to several others. Claiming this isn't being done already is obviously false. Battery tech doesn't change "so much" every 3 to 4 years. There isn't a "new generation" of battery tech every year. A generation is a new battery technology, which happens every 5 to 10 years, not every 3 to 4 years. These ICE claims are rather absurd. Once a new engine comes in a new ICE car, it is not compatible with previous versions. Nothing will line up, nor will any of the computer controls match. The idea that ICE cars have drop in replacement engines is rather comical.
@@redbaron6805 What "form-fitting"? Practically all EV batteries have the same fundamental shape: a rectangular slab hanging under the floor. Very little of value would be lost from standardizing physical and electrical interfaces.
@@teardowndan5364 Batteries are designed to fit the platform they go into, just like engines are made to fit into the engine compartments of each combustion car manufacturer. People don't understand that the difference is critical, and gets into where the batteries are located, where they are connected, how the cables are routed, etc. etc. Once the modules are assembled into a battery pack, an entire cooling system is also designed to handle the heat generated when they are charged and discharged. Then the charging system, BMS, the voltage, the motors and everything else has to match the voltage and current the battery pack is designed to produce. This is why EV's are platform specific. The entire system is designed to meet all the parameters, voltage, cooling, connections, etc. This is typical of engineering that looks simple on the surface, but is far more complex than most people realize.
@@teardowndan5364Nah Dan, the Battery Industry is rapidly making them better and more efficient and will continue doing so for the next decade or two. There are already battery refurbishment companies and replacement batteries for some of the most popular EVs.
Keep you gasoline car and ride a bike for the short distance: 1. 40 % of all trips in the US are under 2 miles/ 3 km. 2. 45 % of all trips in the US are under 3 miles/ 5 km. 3. 90 % Of all rips in the US are under 10 miles/ 16 km. The effective range of a normal person on a bike is 6 miles / 10 km. With an E-bike even 15 miles/ 25 km. With a bike you can go car lite and save a lot of money, healthy exercise and fun.
Some more issues that should be noted: -EV's don't do well in very cold, very hot or dusty conditions. (3rd world or developing countries's roads would destroy an EV) -Theft of EV charging cables are already a problem in some cities around the globe, and the Chinese pay good money for copper cables... -EV's might be quick on acceleration, but suck in terms of fun, "driving emotion" (beautiful engine sounds) and severely reduced range at high speeds. (We in South Africa often drive way above the speed limits if road and traffic conditions allow for, and that while the AC or heater / heated seats are hard at work = useless range. While every town have 24 hour fueling stations, for a quick petrol / diesel refill) -Power outages! Do I need to say more? (We in South Africa sometimes have "loadshedding", leaving one without electricity for up to 12 hours per day during stage 6 levels of loadshedding. And our 24 hours fueling stations have back-up generators to keep the pumps going.
Every time someone buys an EV, the power bills for everyone else goes up. EVs increase electric demand, and with limited supply, these energy cartels increase the cost.
Yes, if the world could only create more electricity somehow. If there only was wind and solar energy, hydro, geothermal, nuclear and a host of technologies which can easily produce more electricity. Are you seriously claiming we can generate a finite amount of electricity...?
@@gefleigh4264 There are several things you have to understand first. 1. Electricity prices are highly regulated, unlike gas prices. For utilities to raise your rate, they have to get past the PSC, and justify the reason why. Gas stations can raise prices at any time, for any reason. 2. You CAN obviously generate your own electricity using solar panels, generators, wind turbines, using a creek or a stream, a river, geothermal, tidal, etc. etc. You obviously CAN NOT drill for and refine your own oil. 3. There is no actual capacity limit to generate electricity. You can build virtually unlimited number of solar panels, wind turbines, tidal systems, geothermal plants, etc. Oil however is finite. Once we drill, extract and burn it, that's it. It can only be burned once.
Overlooked are issues with the release of toxic and/explosive gases and increased hazards if parked in ferry boats, underground parking garages and to who uses.
The very first cars were electric, over 100 years ago. Most of these issues already existed back then, and they soon realised EV's wasn't the answer. So gas cars were invented and are still the best way to travel.
I still can't understand why EV's became so popular in the first place. I thought that the people who can afford them would have more sense. They can't be buying them because they believe it will save the environment, surely they can't be that stupid. I wouldn't buy one if I won the lotto\lottery, I wouldn't even buy a new petrol or diesel car. A nearly new used petrol/diesel car is the best option.
The claim is EV’s will save the planet, this is total Bull shit! Firstly EV autos require the digging up, shipping and processing of between 300,000 to 500,000 TONS of raw material to build just one EV. Add the fact that many of these components are shipped across the Pacific and back, sometimes several times, and I fail to see how any of this is good for the planet. Secondly they are going to require massive expansion of power generation and delivery, which again requires massive amounts of material, and quite frankly cannot be accomplished by the 2035 deadline. Thirdly, even if this pipe dream were to be accomplished, I see a huge environmental disaster looming as millions of junked EV’s sit deteriorating in salvage yards and back yards, and the batteries deteriorate and leak, putting tons of toxins into the soil
Too much CO2 isn't good for plants, which multiple scientific studies have clearly shown already. People that keep making these claims are either scientifically illiterate, clueless, or both....
New study just came out about very harmful "forever" chemicals related to lithium batteries, not to mention the pollution caused by mining all the rare earth minerals for them. The massive amounts of fossil fuels needed to mine said minerals in quantities to convert to EV'S and the trillions of dollars to build a grid to handle are not in the same universe of converting to "horse less carriages" EV'S are destructive to the environment unknown to any previous technology. Sad you have swallowed the lies, but check the same people that told you Biden was sharp, have sold you on EV'S, try to let that sink in.
I'd consider one for free if someone charged it for me every night and made sure it was ready first thing in the morning. Even then I'd still have a real car also
You can list a thousand reasons evs are bad, but it doesn't matter, your government knows best and will decide what we all drive, we've got a planet to save,
Imagine, not if but when, one of those batteries catches on fire and it quickly spreads to the cars next to it. Chain reaction. It will be a massive fire in the EV graveyards.
@@tachikaze222 you know nothing what you talk about. i notice you reply to every single post on here with some contrarian view based on absolute ignorance. you drank the kool aid, we get it.
Riiiiiiiiight! I think I will believe the statistics, not you. EV market is failing and on life support. If it wasn't for government subsidies and $100k trucks, EV sales would ZERO.
@@jonwoodworker The statistics and I are in agreement. You get your information from sources that are trying to shoot down EV adoption. Likely funded by oil companies. In China, the worlds largest car market by far, EV sales will make up over 50% of new car sales in 2024.
So basically the transformation is in its infancy. I wasn’t around but I bet the switch from horse and carriage and electric lights didn’t move in leaps and bounds, and probably many who found a million reasons to keep things the way they were.
10. Nonsense, this problem is similar for ICE car also highly dependent on software. 9. Agree, EV’s are here to stay but not to take over. 8. ICE junkyards are even bigger. 7. The second hand EV market is growing. Also is the interest as I notice this around me. 6. This is also changing as people find out that mostly it’s not that a big problem. And I can go on… this is a very negative view on EV’s. I think the truth is somewhere else. EV’s are here to stay and there will be more. But a 100% market take over is an illusion for the green dealers.
The only thing that make sense is Hybrids. Gas/Electric, self charging. Our Toyota Prius gets over 50mpg all year up here in our very cold Canadian climate. Adopting more self charging fuel/battery vehicles only prolongs the agony the earth will endure, because going full electric is prolonging the changeover. Hybrids give the planet a break by drastically reducing the fuel burned and giving the industry time to more efficiently electrify
eh, I've got a Model Y and don't see a need for adding ICE to that. I can drive to the coast and back (300 miles) with a 10 minute charge stop so with home solar that trip only costs me $8 in charging costs.
@@tachikaze222 Yeah you dont get 300 miles per charge on a model Y. you obviously dont own one and are quoting published stats as opposed to first hand experience. Typical cali leftist though. We get it. You are also quoting published data for charging in north dakota, not california. Itll cost you about 40 bucks to use a supercharger which is about the same price as a tank of gas to make that same trip. Also, you wouldnt be able to do anything once you reached the coast, just drive there and back....even though you wouldnt make it as the real usable range of a model y is 200 miles. 300 mile trip would require charging to 100% and discharging to 0% whilst in reality you can only charge to 80% and discharge to 20% without damaging the battery. What little you know about lithium cells. Your ignorance and white knighting is apparent, and appalling. You obviously do not own a Tesla.
With EV range being 500+ miles and heading to 900 plus miles by the end of the decade, Hybrids are obviously obsolete by now. Which is why the #1 car being traded in for a Tesla is a Prius. Because people get tired of hauling around a useless engine they hardly ever use when they get Plug in Hybrid....
What a load of bull! The EV market is increasing not declining. Software drives ICE cars as well as EV's so IF this is a risk then it's going to affect ICE cars too. Toyota's view of where the EV market is going is at odds with almost all other manufacturers because they are sooo anti-EV. The EV used car market is buoyant here in the UK; where are you looking? and so on....
Fact: a new EV is a major investment for a regular family, they are pricey. Fact: Inflation driven by high energy prices and run away interest rates have forced the middle class to count nickels and dimes. Buying an EV is a much lower priority than putting food on the table and roofs over ppls heads. Fact: rapid electrification slowing down is not about the middle class not wanting EVs, in current economy we, the middle class, we simply can’t afford them like we could 3-5 years ago.
Sun shines in Daytime Cars are at work. Therefore focus on Government incentives for company Solar Parking charging. This will help EV growth in short term. EV will not fail in the long run, however like adopting the metric system, some countries may lag due to too much entrenched infrastructure. Newer emerged economies may see more success as long as EV is linked to Solar charging. Our goal should be to encourage companies to install solar carports for staff and customers. This will help ensure Solar powers EV and not fossils. (Solar renews daily, Fossil fuels literally take 4bn years and mass death to achieve (requires fossilization.).
Your reason 5 is missing that many that can work on EVs don't do to how dangerous they are to work on and that manufactures are fighting to share important information on repair and safety away from the secondary markets to force people back to the dealer for repairs and car replacement.
@@redbaron6805 That's only if the car/truck is unmodified, undamaged, and or in good working order. People, animals, and the environment can damage and even sometimes disable such safety items. If you don't believe go watch a squirrel bypass a high power line fuse using it's body and then remember that a EV battery is between 400 to 800vdc, DC arcing can happen at 10volts and 48v's is when DC voltage is officially lethal. You have no idea what you are taking about and the Safety procedure for many EV cars involves a computer controller power down of the better, wearing specialized equipment and placing safety barriers. The safety warning Land Rover gives is 9 pages long and the safety class before even touching the is 2 weeks long. NO ONE wants to work on them.
@@eviljagtech Not sure how much you work with electricity and electronics, something I have been doing for 30 years already. But, electronics, wiring and related hardware is typically fused, and if it isn't the wiring usually burns through. People also don't understand the fact that EV's use the same exact 12V electrical system a combustion engine cars do, to run all the lights, accessories, infotainment, sensors, etc. Why is why they are no more dangerous to work on. You don't have 400V or 800V running your lights or seatbelt sensor. The HV line runs into a motor controller, and into a motor. It is clearly marked, has a separate disconnect, and isn't involved in the rest of the car except to charge the 12V battery using a DC to DC converter.
@@eviljagtechAnd yet there are plenty of people buying them and having them serviced. There will be 17 MILLION EVs sold Globally this year. MORE than the ENTIRE US Auto Market. The time for ICE and its poisonous fumes from the tailpipe is coming to an end rapidly. China already hit 50% plug-ins New Vehicle Sales in the Largest Auto Market on the planet. And it’s rapidly growing and ICE plants are laying off workers there and won’t be rehiring them unless they switch to building EVs. The transition is already well underway.
8-9mil what? World wide? China's number have all been proven to be fake as they just build them and park them. Other countries are forcing people at gun point to buy them. Germany and the US have shown a decline already and the Aussie's are hating them.
@@Renato.Stiefenhofer.747driver And.... you don't understand that their limitations were the battery technology of the time, not the motors or anything else. So... you are basically saying you don't understand how this works at all...? What is that relevant to...?
@@redbaron6805 What I'm saying is: CO2 is not a problem we could or should solve, because it's not a problem, at all. CO2 cannot change temperature. Plus: Man made climate change is a business model and EV's are a waste of time, resources and energy. You may read my books... Fact is: There was no temperature increse since 1997. No global warming. I have read all the IPCC reports. They actually admit it... But it's well hidden, around page 778. No politician and no Greta cares about facts. BTW, when it comes to EV's and electrical questions, I do have a degree in engineering and I do fly Jumbojets. Hope this clarifies your question....
So, why don’t they sell ‘em? Very simple, people aren’t as stupid as they think. The main players in the automotive world have been part of the con from the start. Since the EV idea started, they’ve been ramming it down our throats that lithiums and cobalts and nickels, together with their oxides, phosphates and titanates as with all the mumbo jumbo required to confuse the general public into thinking that batteries are soooo expensive. Sure, mining is expensive, so is drilling for oil. It’s just that if you sell lots of it the cost ratio drops considerably. To add insult to injury THESE THINGS HAVE NO ENGINE AND NO GEARBOX, the two big-budget outlays in the industry. On the back of this, combustion engined cars have seen their prices steadily and artificially increased well beyond inflation rates to “match” the EV’s. And so we have it. The traditional affordable model which until relatively recently was selling for twelve thousand, and its electric counterpart priced at double - remember: same chassis, no engine, no gearbox - then the former pushed to twenty and the electric model, which should cost half, i.e. six, is a “bargain at “only” twenty two. If ever there were a modern version of the emperor’s new clothes, this is it.
According to National Traffic Safety Board, gas vehicles catch fire 60 times more often than electric vehicles. EVs are the safest cars on the road in general. Teslas are not short on production or sales - see Q2 numbers. Almost every one of your claims are inaccurate, showing a massive bias and little if any research.
paulpuckett1320 From the NYT "Tesla’s Profit Fell 45% in the Second Quarter on Weak E.V. Sales The company led by Elon Musk is selling fewer electric cars, and its big bets on driverless taxis and artificial intelligence could take many years to pay off." Everything is just fine. Sit down and remain quiet while your battery car recharges. If you can find a charging station. Always keep a fire extinguisher handy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"4 days ago - The global EV sales figure rose by about 3.5 million vehicles, representing a 35% year-on-year increase" That, certainly doesn't sound like a "market crash", does it?
Imagine a evil hacker who loves manipulating people lives taking control of the cars system!!! And causing a lethal crash, it’s impossible to find him or them,
An iPad on wheels? No way. I love my, several iPads, but they last maybe 5 years before battery 🪫 empties, black screen syndrome, minor fall breaks screen, software support ceases, App software outdated, unsaleable, Apple “we can recycle it for you but no refund when buying a new iPad from us.” Electronic phones and pads are great, for around 5 years, then scrapped. EVs have a much harder usage outdoors and on rough roads with countless collision risks. May not survive 5 years of use before scrapping. My diesel wagon is already 18 years-young, bought second hand, no rust, sustainable, repairable and will almost certainly outlast my remaining lifespan with careful use. Unlimited driving range. Easily refilled. Swap it for a short range iPad on wheels? No thanks.
@@AlanTov Thank you for the education. Your superior knowledge is welcomed. Relying on warranty words might even work. Enjoy your EV. But, I’m staying with diesel and petrol.
Yes, clearly you have been huffing too much Diesel Fumes if you think that’s what happens with EVs, lots of them have 8 year warranties on the Battery and Drive Trains, which is way better than most ICE vehicles. Keep huffing and maybe you will see a rainbow or Leprechaun 🍀!
@@DavidC-pg6ni8 years, never had a car that new, newest car I've ever had was 10 years old, current car 24 years old , still on the same engine and fuel tank!
Plenty of 2nd-hand electric vehicles available here in the Uk and Europe, and it is a healthy market. Good prices, and still within manufacturers' warranty. ICE cars use software, just as easily hacked as BEV. You mention a 'non-existent used car market' several times (inflating your count of reasons) - but the used BEV market is actually quite healthy. Electric cars are cheaper to run than ICE cars - certainly in my experience, and that of many others. You are just making things up. As for replacing the battery - many BEV cars have got over 500,000 miles on the original battery. Replacing the battery is not as expensive as you suggest. It is a bit of a life-style change. A good one. I haven't been to a petrol station since getting an EV. Just plug it in at home when necessary. The US is, admittedly, a little slow in turning to renewable electricity generation. Much of the rest of the world is getting on with it quite well. All the electricity that I use is bought from wind, solar, hydro or nuclear. All of it. I produce more electricity than I use with my solar panels. California is producing more solar electricity than it knows what to do with. But even in the USA, electricity production produces less CO2 than petrol (sorry, gas) and diesel does. And that is disregarding the CO2 produced by the delivery of fuel to the petrol stations. Yes, some of the car manufacturers have delayed their production of EVs - because they came to it late, they misread the market, and they are heavily invested in producing ICE vehicles. EV cars, even new, are not more expensive than equivalent ICE cars - that is an old and outdated situation. Charging - not had a problem so far. Battery production - the technology is rapidly changing, with less need for the metals you list. This whole vlog is a collection of mis-informed and made up 'information'.
One of your points 'just plug it in at home when necessary' is one of the issues for many. Here in the UK and elsewhere in Europe many people live in terraced houses and do not have the ability to charge at home, same for those living in flats. So what do these people have to do? Drive to an available public charger and sit around for as long as it takes for their EV to charge, it is also more expensive to charge at these places. I'd rather go to a petrol station and be in and out within 5-8 minutes.
@@zm321 yeah well, 100+ years ago there wasn't any 'petrol stations'. People got gas at the drug store. Times change and technology moves on from the past.
Not one single TH-camrs ever talks about how EVs FREEZE and MALFUNCTION in minus 20celsius . Only one Tesla owner in Montreal Canada 🇨🇦made a video of his brand new Tesla could not recharge even I his insulated HEATED garage
@@martinavaslovik3433 Tell me you haven't read any actual studies without telling me.... "According to the NTSB, EVs are involved in about 25 fires per 100,000 sold, while gasoline-powered vehicles are involved in 1,530 fires and hybrid vehicles are involved in 3,475 fires per 100,000 sold."
I think most of the "virtue signalers" already have their EV's if they have the money, and the rest of us aren't interested. I got solar panels to help alleviate the constant price increases in electricity, adding an EV would undo that and put us back into tier 2 & 3 prices.
@@tachikaze222 We have right at 8kw rated output right now and because of our roof configuration peeks just over 6kw mid day and with 2 people and a small business working from home it does us fine until winter. I hate our heat pump and miss our gas furnace, it was so much more efficient and cheaper to run when heating the house.
@@traxiii yeah I hear you about heat pumps. Even with PG&E's $2+/therm pricing, heat pumps barely break even. I have no plans to go from natgas to heat pump unless Uncle Joe pays for it. Check out the EG4 minisplit; you can add additional non-grid-tied solar panels and run it directly from that.
It was predictable from the beginning, you have to buy new vehicles, not a single manufacturer interested to sell you reliable car which you can use for decades, they have to invent something new always. You bought EV to replace your old chevy or ford, now they tell that your EV is garbage and you need to replace it with internal combustion and so on . This is how economics works
The technology isn't there yet for reliable EVs to be of any use. There is no infrastructure in place for charging them. Quite a lot of people in the UK still live in terraced houses, and council estates with public car parking makes it difficult to charge EVs from their homes.
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Because people that buy Evs are smart enough to know better.
Cause there isn't any.
Do you have any solid, official statistics ? Indicate source pls.
You are just talking about America and some European countries.
Not the rest of the 90% world.
There's a 60x greater chance of accident in an ICE than a FSD Tesla. Just a FACT
95 percent of EVs sold are still on the road today. The other 5 percent made it home.
Thanks made me laugh
Keep smiling
HAHAHA
WITH LFP AND SODIUM BATTERIES HIGHLY UNLIKELY
With humour like this I bet the winter nights flyby , err then again maybe not.
I would still NOT want a battery EV - even with a 90% discount.
Even for free I would not want it
YOU WILL END UP RIDING A PUSHBIKE
Not even if you gave it to me free!
Never in my lifetime
😂😂😂😂😂 really
When insurance companies have to write off the cars. Insurance rates rise for everyone.
You know f all about EVs They write off ICE cars too.
@@nathansmith7153yes they do. But seldom for minor damage, unless it is an old, and less valuable ICE vehicle.
I believe the point is that the repair on an EV is so high that it reaches the write-off threshold more easily.
True... what has this got to do with EVs?
@@nathansmith7153yup
They sure do
But not for a small dent in the battery pack
@@tachikaze222 No, the video is factually correct.
A Korean TH-camr named inssak shows a lot of Hyundai Ev’s having unintended acceleration and crashing and catching fire
Consumer trust left the building a long time ago
Only the sycophants and EV bros left.
LONG time ago.
Want MY SELF autonomous to Remain In Control.
😐🤨
We had EV vehicles years ago in the UK,they were called milk floats to deliver milk to customers.
The MK 1 Ernie milk float
Yes and they worked well to
I know, I used to speed past them early in the morning as I pedaled my bicycle to work. By that time the milk floats were often crawling along on diminishing battery capacity as the vehicles returned to the dairy. Even with fully charged batteries, the milk float was much slower than my bike, especially on the down hill sections of road and uphill still no competition.
@@alanjones4622 my EV does 0-60 in 2.9 seconds, fancy a race?
@@BAC_Monoare you rly comparing a microwave to a vehicle with a internal combustion engine that does not has all the NM from the 1st sec?
Electric vehicles should be cimpared to other EV's in races
As muscle cars are compared to other gaz guzzlers
So sh tf up ;D
Once a large enough percentage of "early adapters"......relatively wealthy novelty seekers have experienced the enormous repair costs, the limited ability to have these cars serviced, traffic jams caused by people without money, pushing their degrading batteries to the absolute limit, very high insurance premiums, cars bricking themselves for either no or nonsensical reasons...and unfortunately stories of entire families being incinerated while just going about their daily lives, the tide will turn hard AGAINST these things, big time.
I'm not speculating here, these are all hard truths associated with the current technology being used in these cars.
The people lying about the issues these cars have, and the ones keeping their heads in the sand, are the worst enemy the EV movement could possibly have. It's almost like a death cult is calling the shots for them.
Recognizing limitations and slow, steady evolution is the way forward...not the clusterfuck currently playing out.
Remove all the tax breaks, subsidy on cars, subsidy on charging, grants, company tax advantages, 0% finance, leave it to the market to decide and no one would ever buy one of these hideous turds!
We should have done that in 2009 and let GM and Chrysler go. We spent billions bailing them out.
So, you don't think EV's are a good buy?
Even "clean" energy can not exist without fossil fuels.
Exactly. Most of the electrical energy in the world. comes from burning fossil fuel
!00% wrong.
@@ronwilson8759 100% correct. How will you make tires? How will you pave roads? Smelt steel? mine copper? How will you even manufacture wind turbines? Solar cells? None, absolutely none of them can exist without fossil fuels.
We're in Southern California and Power Outages Several times Last Week
I feel sorry for you.😢
Clean energy is not very clean.
@@glennso47 the 50kWh my rooftop panels are producing today says otherwise. Granted, they came on a boat from Malaysia, but that was a one-time pollution expense.
I'm in Central California and we only have power 5 minutes twice a month. It's terribles I tell ya!
@@tachikaze222 Are you saying you only have power for ten minutes a month? If so, how many months has this happened and why?
Totally worthless when the😂 battery warranty runs out . All about control !!!!!!
These things are worthless right off the lot
? It's only worthless when the battery *dies*. Which might happen in 20 years or so. Granted, BEV makers should offer "crate" battery packs like you can get a crate engine.
The warranty is for 8 years.
@@KidHorn7001
Yes it is but the tech will move on and won't be supported like an old i phone .
@@user-pb3ls5ki9n I went with a Model Y last year (#1 selling BEV in the US) in the hope of avoiding this down the road. We'll see...
Too heavy. Too fast. Too complicated. Too expensive.
From somebody too stupid to get it right
Or you are just too clueless to understand how they work....
@@redbaron6805 you get yourself a doctorate in mechanical engineering and come back and talk.....
@@user-kj5ys3vw9p Yeah, because everyone knows electric cars are mostly mechanical, not electronic and electric, right...? 🤣🤣🤣
Let me guess, you are one of those geniuses that think Hamburgers are made with Ham....
@@redbaron6805 go away, tedious fool.
Here in Houston we just had a hurricane blow through. The power is out all over the city! This includes charging stations both public and in home. It will be a few more days until power is widely restored. OK so you take a few days off. Forget this crap! Keep your expensive EV's!
not to mention getting into a submerged battery probably isn't safe.
I would presume that the gas stations were without power as well
@@anndivine9989 Yes. But I had filed up both cars when the hurricane was on the way.
@@anndivine9989 depends some, a lot, have generators, they do this because people will show up with HUGE trucks and start filling their tanks and wait till the power goes out and then the cc machines dont work so they just leave.
Happened a ton in North Texas when we had the power outage because of the snow. They were rolling power around so that people could get heat.
Fk Ev and the companies that make them especially jaguar that have stopped all combustion engine vehicles they surely won’t survive 🤷♂️
My Model Y can go 0 to 60 in 4 seconds, is AWD (without complicated central torque couplings), and can drive 300 miles on rooftop solar for $0.30/gal GGE. BEV is going to drink ICE's milkshake this decade, and people who don't understand that either are living in denial, or getting paid to not understand it.
@@tachikaze222 Rubbish from a troll
@@SuperBartet Thanks for proving you have no idea how this works. That is beside the fact that JLR has been a money losing pit on their combustion engines that are comically unreliable and cost a ridiculous amount to keep running. You must have been in a coma for the last 50 years or something...
@@tachikaze222 bull💩
@@thomasobrien8850 well it's in my garage and does all that, so I don't know what you're disputing LOL
People have realised the most expensive item most will ever buy next to a house is now disposable like an old phone or washing machine and literaly has no second hand value combined with dificulties with charging and just poor usability the whole thing is an environmental disaster.
Somewhere out there are auto execs saying "I told you so".
No mention of the possibility of being incinerated inside your EV; why not?
because hybrids are much, much more likely to catch fire somehow (ICE is 10X more likely)
Perhaps because relatively few people have died that way yet. It’s a real danger but not yet very common.
@@markiangooley And ICE cars burn more frequently than EVs
@@markiangooley there's been around 5 million EV sales in the US, not counting early 20th century sales when they first became popular. Unless BEVs get more dangerous with age, they're much safer than ICE wrt fires etc.
@@tachikaze222 That is nonsense.. Why are they telling us to not park them in the garage and fire depts 🎇have no plausible and economical way to put them out... you have 20 EVs for all I care, just don't park them in garages or near normal people
The only time I would own an e.V if I won it or somebody gave it to me and then I'd sell it to the highest bidder
It would be cheaper to say that you don't want it at all. Trying to persuade someone to buy it would be difficult to say the least
I was parked around a EV charging station watching the people charging there electric vichecle most of the people that I observed looked frustrated while waiting for the car to charge
yeah most BEVs can and do charge slow. Even Teslas run into this problem at crowded stations. Last Saturday I had to wait an additional 30 minutes due to crowding and slow charging speeds and it sucked.
But it will get better this decade and next as we build out bigger & better charge spots.
Most people charge at home, where the car sits parked most of the time anyways, so no time lost.
Like monkeys at a zoo before feeding time!
@@tachikaze222You must be a masochist?
Well, it can also be frustrating, if you're impatient, to wait in line at service stations to fill your tank with expensive & air-polluting fuel.
I would like to know how many other people don't like to pull up to close to EVs when in traffic queues.
Dude, you’re driving a Molotov cocktail and worry about a Duracell battery ?
I don't - I don't want to be breathing in all that electrical radiation.
@@davidhoogendijk6675 I have been diving cars ,pickups, and trucks for all of my life. (77) I was a heavy equipment mechanic for 45 years. I have NEVER had a vehicle I was driving catch fire. I have had a few vehicles that I was welding on catch fire, but it was EASILY extinguished. EV fires will NOT be extinguished. They even burn under water.
I live in the country, and I routinely travel into the mountains, far from any chargers. I do not even have cell phone coverage where I go. I can pack a couple of extra cans of gasoline, how could I pack and extra battery? If I lived in a city, and I could charge at home, maybe it would be workable, but not where I live. PLUS, there is not enough infrastructure for many EVs charging at night. Cali already has told people to not charge their vehicle at night.
Your hurt feelings do not overpower my common sense.
@@dungareesareforfools hahahahaha! good one...
Me. I choose to park well away from the few charging points on car parks where l live.
We also should expect a rise of ICE cars prices. Because vendors would make us to pay back their EV investments and losts.
Nope ICE vehicles are plummeting in numbers sold Globally. There’s going to be about 17 MILLION EVs sold Globally this year. China is now about 50% Plug-ins as of the previous month and EVs are growing there rapidly. Norway is already 90% New EVs Sales and the rest of the Scandinavian countries are already getting close to 50% EVs.Only the US is really behind of the three Major Markets.
@@DavidC-pg6ni Good for us.
Won't happen. People are broke and cars on lots are sitting longer all the time. They biult expensive vehicles with features that aren't needed and now they are stuck with tgem
@@RonaldSkancke Corporations always eventually shift their expences, taxes, fines, etc. to paying customers. I see no reason, what would prevent them from doing the same with EV-related expences and damages.
I agree - it's demand & supply. ICE cars in demand - EV's not....but Auto makers are being ORDERED to make EVs by WEF Governments across the West.
Entire auto industry struggling. ICE vehicles doing even worst.😢
I'm in the vehicle industry. ICE vehicles are doing great. Always have. Our shipping company won't take EV's for obvious reasons...like battery explosions!, which have destroyed many a car carrier.
My Grandfather switched from a horse drawn wagon to a Model T Ford around 1924. He didn't switch because the government gave him a tax credit, and he didn't switch to impress the people over in the next farm in North East Arkansas, he switched because the Model T was better. Now, get me an EV that is BETTER than my ICE pickup or Mustang, and I would consider switching. Even if I was to settle for "just as good", I would need an EV that could go a REAL 300 miles, (both uphill and downhill, against a wind or with a wind, with the lights and heater/air on, at 110 or - 25 degrees F, and with 1 to 4 people in the car), I can refuel in 5 minutes or less, (at any one of one million fuel pumps nationwide), I can drive for 20 or more years, (my 1995 Mustang and 2008 Ranger are going just fine), and I can buy "out the door" for $35,000.00 or less. I know, that's a hard act to follow, but why should I settle for less than what I'm currently driving now? My Grandfather didn't.
I thought technology was supposed to make things easier not more complicated.
Will EV manufacturers pick up the batteries to recycle them?
Sure. In fact when You're buying a Renault EV in Europe car and battery are sold as two separate transaction but as for battery it's rather leasing than ordinary purchase. Means You do not own the battery. It's possible answer to Your question.
The volvo hybrid that exploded will put people off buying them !
More off putting than being owned by the Chinese?
It seems like auto manufacturers were lemmings driving off the same cliff in order to be the bestist in the market share game. Ooops.
EVs are junk green new deal is a scam
With Ed 'Edstone' Miliband - the man who had difficulty eating a bacon sandwich - in charge of the whole UK energy policy.
I'll just keep my 1992 Plymouth Voyager
People simply park in the charging stations.
So they should! Why should the dullards have special parking places?
@@JohnSmith-ei2pz I like to hook the cable into the gas so it looks like Im charging, not like Walmart gives a shit.
@@eviljagtechKeep making up stories that your Dain Bramaged ICE friends might even believe. We know better smooth brain.
When walking the dog ,and seeing the driver connecting, i ask them how they find their e/v ?😂,
Their, are some very angry people out there😊.
EV=Electronic elecshittery. No way am I going to own a vehicle which can have the ability to electronically spy on me. It's absolute bollocks.
More people are keeping their cars now an maintaining them last longer especially diesels.
I say that EVs have a place in the future of driving, but not the ONLY place. Things like ethanol and hydrogen should be explored just as deeply to give us a wider option base
Here in Europe, environment is misused by the government to get extra income. In the Netherlands, road tax for EV will rise significantly. They claim the heavy EV are distrying the roads. In Belgium, tax will come for charging equipment that can be used public. That is just the beginning
I still don’t understand why anyone would currently buy an EV unless they are being hugely subsidised
The issue could be solved with some difficulty, by converting the Electric vehicle to Petrol or Diesel. Start with battery and engine removal ! There are too many Electric vehicles in junk yards already. Something has to be done.
Anticipating the next surge of TH-cam videos being people converting electric cars to combustion.
I bought an AWD Model Y last year for $37K before TT&L. Never going back to ICE LOL.
ICE means In Car Entertainment.
You can already find LS swaps in Tesla's.
Dream on
UNBELIEVABLE?!
We had electric cars and steam cars before ICE CARS, repeating the same idea getting the same results. How odd.
In Queensland, Australia, second hand motor traders are required to give consumers a mandatory warranty. Seems to me that in such a commercial environment, second hand dealers wont be selling EVs. EVs will either be auctioned off, or alternatively, sold privately. Not much of a future for second hand EVs, they might be tossing them out like broken flat screen TVs.
One thing that doesn’t get mentioned is the impending tax on electricity. One of the biggest government incomes is petrol tax. If that dwindles they will tax something else that everyone needs and because electricity will become dependent on even more the taxes will grow even higher
CA is already trying to put a .30 cent a mile on drivers due to that.
Petrol cars use far less fuel than ever before. The CO2 alarmists have held sway for far too long. It's high time the evidence behind their claims was investigated.
Why didn't the car manufacturers look into all of this years ago? I was at Toyota's 70th anniversary celebrations in Mulhouse, France back in 2007. I asked a senior company executive about this. He just shrugged his shoulders and said "We just do what the government tells us."
I was amazed. Motor engineering is a numerate discipline requiring real-world problem solving - yet the claims made by so-called 'climate scientists' were not and have not been called into question.
CO2 is 4 100th of a percent of the atmosphere, Doubling it would not be a problem.
Forgot the lack of emotion. The dead and clinical EV will never come near the living heartbeat of true engine!
There's no arguing with EV enthusiasts, they are the same people who call themselves Just Stop Oil. Absolutely clueless people.
The truth is, since WWII, the physical form-factor and energy density of batteries of today, have only been reduced to 1/5 of there original size (there are only so many molecules of materials available for anodes and cathodes). On the other hand, the smallest single function vacuum tube's glass envelope (the peanut tube) in 1945, will hold more than thirty billion transistors, batteries will never catch up!
Wind and Solar only account for 3% of the power grid. And cost billions to produce.
Stop lying. Do you live in “Coal-slyvania”??
In the US renewables have now passed Coal as an Electricity Source and Coal is plummeting rapidly. States like California are already OVER 50% renewables and use Battery Storage to cover most of the Peak Demand in the Evenings.
This is scaling up rapidly as Coal goes away and Renewables continue to increase rapidly with more and more Battery Storage.
"EVs don't catch on fire more often than conventional cars"
But when they do....
Have not found a single reason that would make me even consider an EV. Just because something can be made, doesn't make me want to own one. I have not talked to anyone yet who actually likes their choice to buy one, but trying to sell their mistake is not an option.
Most modern ICEVs are almost completely software-driven and remotely accessible too thanks to the new wave of more advanced driver-assist and collision avoidance features.
The biggest problem with EVs right now is lack of battery standards making cost-effective battery replacements with known-good ones difficult if not impossible and often ludicrously expensive. If there were standards guaranteeing cost-effective replacements for 20+ years, worries about battery replacements wouldn't drive used EV prices down so fast. With standards, you also get the option of fitting a new-gen battery to an old EV instead of being stuck with whatever obsolete tech the car launched with. When battery tech changes so much every 3-4 years, spending 15k$ to put in 3-4 generations old tech when a battery replacement inevitably comes due isn't particularly appealing. With ICEV, there isn't much of a dilemma to be had as the fundamentals have been fundamentally unchanged for 20+ years apart from tighter emissions control and more stuff being locked behind computerized walled gardens.
All modern cars are software driven, not just EV's. A modern combustion engine car can have over 100 computers approaching even 200 or more.
Batteries are form fitted to a car, and are therefore platform specific. Just like you can't just take an engine out of a Chevy or a Ford and slap it into a Toyota or a Hyundai.
There are already cars that have been upgraded to next generation battery tech, from Tesla's to Nissan Leaf's to several others. Claiming this isn't being done already is obviously false.
Battery tech doesn't change "so much" every 3 to 4 years. There isn't a "new generation" of battery tech every year. A generation is a new battery technology, which happens every 5 to 10 years, not every 3 to 4 years.
These ICE claims are rather absurd. Once a new engine comes in a new ICE car, it is not compatible with previous versions. Nothing will line up, nor will any of the computer controls match. The idea that ICE cars have drop in replacement engines is rather comical.
Is the remote accessable for safety, or so that people can be controlled.
@@redbaron6805 What "form-fitting"? Practically all EV batteries have the same fundamental shape: a rectangular slab hanging under the floor. Very little of value would be lost from standardizing physical and electrical interfaces.
@@teardowndan5364 Batteries are designed to fit the platform they go into, just like engines are made to fit into the engine compartments of each combustion car manufacturer.
People don't understand that the difference is critical, and gets into where the batteries are located, where they are connected, how the cables are routed, etc. etc.
Once the modules are assembled into a battery pack, an entire cooling system is also designed to handle the heat generated when they are charged and discharged.
Then the charging system, BMS, the voltage, the motors and everything else has to match the voltage and current the battery pack is designed to produce.
This is why EV's are platform specific. The entire system is designed to meet all the parameters, voltage, cooling, connections, etc.
This is typical of engineering that looks simple on the surface, but is far more complex than most people realize.
@@teardowndan5364Nah Dan, the Battery Industry is rapidly making them better and more efficient and will continue doing so for the next decade or two. There are already battery refurbishment companies and replacement batteries for some of the most popular EVs.
These stupid bot voices....
Straight to DO NOT RECOMMEND every time
Keep you gasoline car and ride a bike for the short distance:
1. 40 % of all trips in the US are under 2 miles/ 3 km.
2. 45 % of all trips in the US are under 3 miles/ 5 km.
3. 90 % Of all rips in the US are under 10 miles/ 16 km.
The effective range of a normal person on a bike is 6 miles / 10 km. With an E-bike even 15 miles/ 25 km.
With a bike you can go car lite and save a lot of money, healthy exercise and fun.
Some more issues that should be noted:
-EV's don't do well in very cold, very hot or dusty conditions. (3rd world or developing countries's roads would destroy an EV)
-Theft of EV charging cables are already a problem in some cities around the globe, and the Chinese pay good money for copper cables...
-EV's might be quick on acceleration, but suck in terms of fun, "driving emotion" (beautiful engine sounds) and severely reduced range at high speeds. (We in South Africa often drive way above the speed limits if road and traffic conditions allow for, and that while the AC or heater / heated seats are hard at work = useless range. While every town have 24 hour fueling stations, for a quick petrol / diesel refill)
-Power outages! Do I need to say more? (We in South Africa sometimes have "loadshedding", leaving one without electricity for up to 12 hours per day during stage 6 levels of loadshedding. And our 24 hours fueling stations have back-up generators to keep the pumps going.
Every time someone buys an EV, the power bills for everyone else goes up. EVs increase electric demand, and with limited supply, these energy cartels increase the cost.
Yes, if the world could only create more electricity somehow. If there only was wind and solar energy, hydro, geothermal, nuclear and a host of technologies which can easily produce more electricity.
Are you seriously claiming we can generate a finite amount of electricity...?
The logic of that is prices would fall.
@@redbaron6805will they produce it all at no cost to us ?.
@@gefleigh4264 There are several things you have to understand first.
1. Electricity prices are highly regulated, unlike gas prices. For utilities to raise your rate, they have to get past the PSC, and justify the reason why. Gas stations can raise prices at any time, for any reason.
2. You CAN obviously generate your own electricity using solar panels, generators, wind turbines, using a creek or a stream, a river, geothermal, tidal, etc. etc. You obviously CAN NOT drill for and refine your own oil.
3. There is no actual capacity limit to generate electricity. You can build virtually unlimited number of solar panels, wind turbines, tidal systems, geothermal plants, etc.
Oil however is finite. Once we drill, extract and burn it, that's it. It can only be burned once.
Also urban areas subsidize rural areas that experience a greater loss in transmission.
WEF-GOOGLE-CENSORSHIP.
Overlooked are issues with the release of toxic and/explosive gases and increased hazards if parked in ferry boats, underground parking garages and to who uses.
The very first cars were electric, over 100 years ago. Most of these issues already existed back then, and they soon realised EV's wasn't the answer. So gas cars were invented and are still the best way to travel.
WHAT A HIT PIECE.
The battery disposal should be covered by the self righteous owners
I still can't understand why EV's became so popular in the first place. I thought that the people who can afford them would have more sense. They can't be buying them because they believe it will save the environment, surely they can't be that stupid. I wouldn't buy one if I won the lotto\lottery, I wouldn't even buy a new petrol or diesel car. A nearly new used petrol/diesel car is the best option.
That was good but you should have added the risk of thermal runaway fire.
gasoline cars are 10X more dangerous than BEVs, and hybrids are even worse than that.
This whole video is bollocks
That risk is exceptionally rare, to the point of being unheard of.
@nathansmith7153 talking your language then kid! 😂
What about weather? Remember Chicago.
The claim is EV’s will save the planet, this is total Bull shit! Firstly EV autos require the digging up, shipping and processing of between 300,000 to 500,000 TONS of raw material to build just one EV. Add the fact that many of these components are shipped across the Pacific and back, sometimes several times, and I fail to see how any of this is good for the planet.
Secondly they are going to require massive expansion of power generation and delivery, which again requires massive amounts of material, and quite frankly cannot be accomplished by the 2035 deadline.
Thirdly, even if this pipe dream were to be accomplished, I see a huge environmental disaster looming as millions of junked EV’s sit deteriorating in salvage yards and back yards, and the batteries deteriorate and leak, putting tons of toxins into the soil
More plant food does not seem such a bad idea after all!
I like to drive my f150 out to get a steak dinner.
Too much CO2 isn't good for plants, which multiple scientific studies have clearly shown already. People that keep making these claims are either scientifically illiterate, clueless, or both....
You lot are similar to the protests against the horseless carriage.
New study just came out about very harmful "forever" chemicals related to lithium batteries, not to mention the pollution caused by mining all the rare earth minerals for them. The massive amounts of fossil fuels needed to mine said minerals in quantities to convert to EV'S and the trillions of dollars to build a grid to handle are not in the same universe of converting to "horse less carriages" EV'S are destructive to the environment unknown to any previous technology. Sad you have swallowed the lies, but check the same people that told you Biden was sharp, have sold you on EV'S, try to let that sink in.
Most are steam guys.
Imagine someone not liking something you like! Unbelievable!
I'd consider one for free if someone charged it for me every night and made sure it was ready first thing in the morning. Even then I'd still have a real car also
Jan-April 2024 EV sales were 23% higher than for Jan-April 2023.
You need to quote FACTS.
EV's have one BIG advantage: If it get stolen⚡ -> it can´t be far away 🤣 . . .
DONˇT BUY EV !!
You can list a thousand reasons evs are bad, but it doesn't matter, your government knows best and will decide what we all drive, we've got a planet to save,
What happens to discontinued EV models and bankrupt ones?
No more software and security updates.
So they will be hacker's toys.
Imagine, not if but when, one of those batteries catches on fire and it quickly spreads to the cars next to it. Chain reaction. It will be a massive fire in the EV graveyards.
You'll have to keep imagining it since clearly pack fires don't happen here all that often in the real world.
It's already happened. Multiple times. A ship,parking garages of all types. And fjb got dementia overnight. Where you not, getting your news.
A coal mine caught fire near where I live about a month ago. All the miners have lost their jobs and the fire is still burning.
Imagine being so dumb as to not know that ICE cars are 19 times worse
@@tachikaze222 you know nothing what you talk about. i notice you reply to every single post on here with some contrarian view based on absolute ignorance. you drank the kool aid, we get it.
Every year, EV sales go up and gas car sales go down. What EV market crash?
shh, Piston Power has bills to pay
Totally incorrect.
Riiiiiiiiight! I think I will believe the statistics, not you. EV market is failing and on life support. If it wasn't for government subsidies and $100k trucks, EV sales would ZERO.
@@jonwoodworker The statistics and I are in agreement. You get your information from sources that are trying to shoot down EV adoption. Likely funded by oil companies. In China, the worlds largest car market by far, EV sales will make up over 50% of new car sales in 2024.
@@jonwoodworkerit's funny how they believe the statistics if they are positive towards evs, if they are negative however....
So basically the transformation is in its infancy. I wasn’t around but I bet the switch from horse and carriage and electric lights didn’t move in leaps and bounds, and probably many who found a million reasons to keep things the way they were.
10. Nonsense, this problem is similar for ICE car also highly dependent on software.
9. Agree, EV’s are here to stay but not to take over.
8. ICE junkyards are even bigger.
7. The second hand EV market is growing. Also is the interest as I notice this around me.
6. This is also changing as people find out that mostly it’s not that a big problem.
And I can go on… this is a very negative view on EV’s. I think the truth is somewhere else. EV’s are here to stay and there will be more. But a 100% market take over is an illusion for the green dealers.
The only thing that make sense is Hybrids. Gas/Electric, self charging. Our Toyota Prius gets over 50mpg all year up here in our very cold Canadian climate. Adopting more self charging fuel/battery vehicles only prolongs the agony the earth will endure, because going full electric is prolonging the changeover. Hybrids give the planet a break by drastically reducing the fuel burned and giving the industry time to more efficiently electrify
eh, I've got a Model Y and don't see a need for adding ICE to that. I can drive to the coast and back (300 miles) with a 10 minute charge stop so with home solar that trip only costs me $8 in charging costs.
What agony are you talking about?
@@tachikaze222 Yeah you dont get 300 miles per charge on a model Y. you obviously dont own one and are quoting published stats as opposed to first hand experience. Typical cali leftist though. We get it. You are also quoting published data for charging in north dakota, not california. Itll cost you about 40 bucks to use a supercharger which is about the same price as a tank of gas to make that same trip. Also, you wouldnt be able to do anything once you reached the coast, just drive there and back....even though you wouldnt make it as the real usable range of a model y is 200 miles. 300 mile trip would require charging to 100% and discharging to 0% whilst in reality you can only charge to 80% and discharge to 20% without damaging the battery. What little you know about lithium cells. Your ignorance and white knighting is apparent, and appalling. You obviously do not own a Tesla.
With EV range being 500+ miles and heading to 900 plus miles by the end of the decade, Hybrids are obviously obsolete by now. Which is why the #1 car being traded in for a Tesla is a Prius. Because people get tired of hauling around a useless engine they hardly ever use when they get Plug in Hybrid....
@@redbaron6805 lmao ev range is not 500 miles and wont be 900 by ever. you are just talking out your ass. get lost sucker.
What a load of bull! The EV market is increasing not declining. Software drives ICE cars as well as EV's so IF this is a risk then it's going to affect ICE cars too. Toyota's view of where the EV market is going is at odds with almost all other manufacturers because they are sooo anti-EV. The EV used car market is buoyant here in the UK; where are you looking? and so on....
Fact: a new EV is a major investment for a regular family, they are pricey.
Fact: Inflation driven by high energy prices and run away interest rates have forced the middle class to count nickels and dimes. Buying an EV is a much lower priority than putting food on the table and roofs over ppls heads.
Fact: rapid electrification slowing down is not about the middle class not wanting EVs, in current economy we, the middle class, we simply can’t afford them like we could 3-5 years ago.
Sun shines in Daytime Cars are at work. Therefore focus on Government incentives for company Solar Parking charging. This will help EV growth in short term. EV will not fail in the long run, however like adopting the metric system, some countries may lag due to too much entrenched infrastructure. Newer emerged economies may see more success as long as EV is linked to Solar charging. Our goal should be to encourage companies to install solar carports for staff and customers. This will help ensure Solar powers EV and not fossils. (Solar renews daily, Fossil fuels literally take 4bn years and mass death to achieve (requires fossilization.).
Your reason 5 is missing that many that can work on EVs don't do to how dangerous they are to work on and that manufactures are fighting to share important information on repair and safety away from the secondary markets to force people back to the dealer for repairs and car replacement.
EV's have a master battery disconnect switch genius. They are far from dangerous to work on.
@@redbaron6805 That's only if the car/truck is unmodified, undamaged, and or in good working order. People, animals, and the environment can damage and even sometimes disable such safety items. If you don't believe go watch a squirrel bypass a high power line fuse using it's body and then remember that a EV battery is between 400 to 800vdc, DC arcing can happen at 10volts and 48v's is when DC voltage is officially lethal. You have no idea what you are taking about and the Safety procedure for many EV cars involves a computer controller power down of the better, wearing specialized equipment and placing safety barriers. The safety warning Land Rover gives is 9 pages long and the safety class before even touching the is 2 weeks long. NO ONE wants to work on them.
@@eviljagtech Not sure how much you work with electricity and electronics, something I have been doing for 30 years already.
But, electronics, wiring and related hardware is typically fused, and if it isn't the wiring usually burns through.
People also don't understand the fact that EV's use the same exact 12V electrical system a combustion engine cars do, to run all the lights, accessories, infotainment, sensors, etc.
Why is why they are no more dangerous to work on. You don't have 400V or 800V running your lights or seatbelt sensor.
The HV line runs into a motor controller, and into a motor. It is clearly marked, has a separate disconnect, and isn't involved in the rest of the car except to charge the 12V battery using a DC to DC converter.
@@eviljagtechAnd yet there are plenty of people buying them and having them serviced. There will be 17 MILLION EVs sold Globally this year. MORE than the ENTIRE US Auto Market.
The time for ICE and its poisonous fumes from the tailpipe is coming to an end rapidly. China already hit 50% plug-ins New Vehicle Sales in the Largest Auto Market on the planet. And it’s rapidly growing and ICE plants are laying off workers there and won’t be rehiring them unless they switch to building EVs.
The transition is already well underway.
NO crash and in fact we find out in 3 week if BEVs are 8 or 9 million in the first half.
8-9mil what? World wide? China's number have all been proven to be fake as they just build them and park them. Other countries are forcing people at gun point to buy them. Germany and the US have shown a decline already and the Aussie's are hating them.
What will happen when these EVs end up in a junk yard? I can picture deadly fires breaking out. How do you dispose of the battery?
Why are there no comments regarding EV fires?.
EV's are the past not the future.
Only for people who are scientifically illiterate....
@@redbaron6805 ... the first cars were ... electric. Back, in the past.
@@Renato.Stiefenhofer.747driver And.... you don't understand that their limitations were the battery technology of the time, not the motors or anything else.
So... you are basically saying you don't understand how this works at all...?
What is that relevant to...?
@@redbaron6805 What I'm saying is: CO2 is not a problem we could or should solve, because it's not a problem, at all. CO2 cannot change temperature. Plus: Man made climate change is a business model and EV's are a waste of time, resources and energy.
You may read my books... Fact is: There was no temperature increse since 1997. No global warming. I have read all the IPCC reports. They actually admit it... But it's well hidden, around page 778. No politician and no Greta cares about facts. BTW, when it comes to EV's and electrical questions, I do have a degree in engineering and I do fly Jumbojets. Hope this clarifies your question....
EVs need to be easy to fix, and way way way cheaper. This shouldn’t be a problem though.
So, why don’t they sell ‘em? Very simple, people aren’t as stupid as they think. The main players in the automotive world have been part of the con from the start. Since the EV idea started, they’ve been ramming it down our throats that lithiums and cobalts and nickels, together with their oxides, phosphates and titanates as with all the mumbo jumbo required to confuse the general public into thinking that batteries are soooo expensive. Sure, mining is expensive, so is drilling for oil. It’s just that if you sell lots of it the cost ratio drops considerably. To add insult to injury THESE THINGS HAVE NO ENGINE AND NO GEARBOX, the two big-budget outlays in the industry. On the back of this, combustion engined cars have seen their prices steadily and artificially increased well beyond inflation rates to “match” the EV’s.
And so we have it. The traditional affordable model which until relatively recently was selling for twelve thousand, and its electric counterpart priced at double - remember: same chassis, no engine, no gearbox - then the former pushed to twenty and the electric model, which should cost half, i.e. six, is a “bargain at “only” twenty two.
If ever there were a modern version of the emperor’s new clothes, this is it.
According to National Traffic Safety Board, gas vehicles catch fire 60 times more often than electric vehicles. EVs are the safest cars on the road in general. Teslas are not short on production or sales - see Q2 numbers. Almost every one of your claims are inaccurate, showing a massive bias and little if any research.
Sources?
EVs are useless off-road. Or outside urban areas.
And in the cold
paulpuckett1320
From the NYT
"Tesla’s Profit Fell 45% in the Second Quarter on Weak E.V. Sales
The company led by Elon Musk is selling fewer electric cars, and its big bets on driverless taxis and artificial intelligence could take many years to pay off."
Everything is just fine. Sit down and remain quiet while your battery car recharges. If you can find a charging station. Always keep a fire extinguisher handy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"4 days ago - The global EV sales figure rose by about 3.5 million vehicles, representing a 35% year-on-year increase"
That, certainly doesn't sound like a "market crash", does it?
Look up “EV sales falling” and see how many hits you get....
Imagine a evil hacker who loves manipulating people lives taking control of the cars system!!! And causing a lethal crash, it’s impossible to find him or them,
I'll buy a digital Rolex instead 😮😅
An iPad on wheels? No way.
I love my, several iPads, but they last maybe 5 years before battery 🪫 empties, black screen syndrome, minor fall breaks screen, software support ceases, App software outdated, unsaleable, Apple “we can recycle it for you but no refund when buying a new iPad from us.”
Electronic phones and pads are great, for around 5 years, then scrapped.
EVs have a much harder usage outdoors and on rough roads with countless collision risks. May not survive 5 years of use before scrapping.
My diesel wagon is already 18 years-young, bought second hand, no rust, sustainable, repairable and will almost certainly outlast my remaining lifespan with careful use. Unlimited driving range. Easily refilled. Swap it for a short range iPad on wheels? No thanks.
Nonsense. Car batteries are high quality with sophisticated battery management systems. They typically have 8 year warranties.
Get educated.
@@AlanTov Thank you for the education. Your superior knowledge is welcomed. Relying on warranty words might even work. Enjoy your EV. But, I’m staying with diesel and petrol.
Yes, clearly you have been huffing too much Diesel Fumes if you think that’s what happens with EVs, lots of them have 8 year warranties on the Battery and Drive Trains, which is way better than most ICE vehicles. Keep huffing and maybe you will see a rainbow or Leprechaun 🍀!
@@DavidC-pg6ni8 years, never had a car that new, newest car I've ever had was 10 years old, current car 24 years old , still on the same engine and fuel tank!
Plenty of 2nd-hand electric vehicles available here in the Uk and Europe, and it is a healthy market. Good prices, and still within manufacturers' warranty.
ICE cars use software, just as easily hacked as BEV.
You mention a 'non-existent used car market' several times (inflating your count of reasons) - but the used BEV market is actually quite healthy. Electric cars are cheaper to run than ICE cars - certainly in my experience, and that of many others. You are just making things up. As for replacing the battery - many BEV cars have got over 500,000 miles on the original battery. Replacing the battery is not as expensive as you suggest.
It is a bit of a life-style change. A good one. I haven't been to a petrol station since getting an EV. Just plug it in at home when necessary.
The US is, admittedly, a little slow in turning to renewable electricity generation. Much of the rest of the world is getting on with it quite well. All the electricity that I use is bought from wind, solar, hydro or nuclear. All of it. I produce more electricity than I use with my solar panels. California is producing more solar electricity than it knows what to do with. But even in the USA, electricity production produces less CO2 than petrol (sorry, gas) and diesel does. And that is disregarding the CO2 produced by the delivery of fuel to the petrol stations.
Yes, some of the car manufacturers have delayed their production of EVs - because they came to it late, they misread the market, and they are heavily invested in producing ICE vehicles.
EV cars, even new, are not more expensive than equivalent ICE cars - that is an old and outdated situation.
Charging - not had a problem so far.
Battery production - the technology is rapidly changing, with less need for the metals you list.
This whole vlog is a collection of mis-informed and made up 'information'.
checking their history they posted 50+ anti-BEV videos in the past month. Nice work if you can get it I guess.
@@tachikaze222 his name is literally piston pundit.
@@DieselRamcharger Unlike diesel boy here which should change his name to Dumbass Pundit...
One of your points 'just plug it in at home when necessary' is one of the issues for many. Here in the UK and elsewhere in Europe many people live in terraced houses and do not have the ability to charge at home, same for those living in flats. So what do these people have to do? Drive to an available public charger and sit around for as long as it takes for their EV to charge, it is also more expensive to charge at these places. I'd rather go to a petrol station and be in and out within 5-8 minutes.
@@zm321 yeah well, 100+ years ago there wasn't any 'petrol stations'. People got gas at the drug store. Times change and technology moves on from the past.
Not one single TH-camrs ever talks about how EVs FREEZE and MALFUNCTION in minus 20celsius . Only one Tesla owner in Montreal Canada 🇨🇦made a video of his brand new Tesla could not recharge even I his insulated HEATED garage
There is no wall possible. All 10 reasons are silly.
The entire EV concept is a complete joke! The car controls the owners life!
That comment is literally an entire new category of dumb...
And this did not even cover the EV explosions and fires.
which is even less an issue than this video was stretching to find 10 for.
@@tachikaze222 Tell me that after you are in one.
@@martinavaslovik3433 Tell me you haven't read any actual studies without telling me.... "According to the NTSB, EVs are involved in about 25 fires per 100,000 sold, while gasoline-powered vehicles are involved in 1,530 fires and hybrid vehicles are involved in 3,475 fires per 100,000 sold."
@@redbaron6805 enjoy your climate communism and have an acceptable day :)
@@martinavaslovik3433 will do!
When we had that world glitch a weeks ago my BMW sat nav was affected. We both watched is making errors.
EV’s have their place,and will improve over time,but it will never fully replace traditional vehicles.
We are in Shit up to the noses right now with this computerized battery-operated trash.
I think most of the "virtue signalers" already have their EV's if they have the money, and the rest of us aren't interested. I got solar panels to help alleviate the constant price increases in electricity, adding an EV would undo that and put us back into tier 2 & 3 prices.
shoulda added more solar. I got 9kW (25 panels) which is just about right for my annual needs.
@@tachikaze222 We have right at 8kw rated output right now and because of our roof configuration peeks just over 6kw mid day and with 2 people and a small business working from home it does us fine until winter. I hate our heat pump and miss our gas furnace, it was so much more efficient and cheaper to run when heating the house.
@@traxiii yeah I hear you about heat pumps. Even with PG&E's $2+/therm pricing, heat pumps barely break even. I have no plans to go from natgas to heat pump unless Uncle Joe pays for it.
Check out the EG4 minisplit; you can add additional non-grid-tied solar panels and run it directly from that.
@@tachikaze222 bull 💩
Look at your kids and Google 'car pollution and health' then 'climate change'.
It was predictable from the beginning, you have to buy new vehicles, not a single manufacturer interested to sell you reliable car which you can use for decades, they have to invent something new always. You bought EV to replace your old chevy or ford, now they tell that your EV is garbage and you need to replace it with internal combustion and so on . This is how economics works
The technology isn't there yet for reliable EVs to be of any use. There is no infrastructure in place for charging them. Quite a lot of people in the UK still live in terraced houses, and council estates with public car parking makes it difficult to charge EVs from their homes.