What If Jarvis Didn’t Save Tony Stark?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video, we explore the pivotal moment in the Avengers movie where Jarvis saves Tony Stark from certain doom. We delve into the implications of what would have happened if Jarvis hadn’t intervened and how it would have altered the course of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Join us as we analyze this ‘What If’ scenario and discuss the significance of Jarvis’s actions in shaping Tony Stark’s destiny. Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe for more Marvel What If analyses!
That's best detail i ever seen
2.1k likes and no replies? Lemme change that.
Hey 👋 What's up Now there's two comments 😆💪, Main detail from What If series VFX artist kept , an incredible detail
Bro marvel loves hidden details
Tbh I think it was lazy writing on What If’s part, but conveniently worked out
@@TheRealTeddyGamingI said it was an Animation Error didn’t I?
This is the AI this earth wants
Agreed
How do you have the same profile as me?
@@selmanigamer5261 i took screenshot of the profile picture from google 💀💀
@@harshit2839-j8c 😮 ok
And instead we'll get "evolve or go extinct humans those are your options anyway I'm going to upload my self into billions of robots and and take over the world"
He didn't lose control, he lost consciousness.
The lights in his suit turn off, but i guess it can be both if his arc reactor failed momentarily
So ... he's not capable of controlling his body's movement?
@@ThePersonManwell no, his arc reactor is his heart so his heart turned off for a sec and so did he
@@socketyellow3 The arc reactor just stops the metal from going to his heart, it doesn't function as his actual heart.
@@ThePersonMan really? I knew it kept the shrapnel away but i thought it also powered his heart and removing it was essentially it turning off. That’s why he struggled to get to the old one
Tony didn’t loose “control” he lost consciousness after his suit lost power since it wasn’t designed to be in deep space.
Losing consciousness is quite literally losing control of your body so idk what you’re talking ab
Even so, he didn't even lose consciousness until he was almost all the way to the worm hole. He watches the ship blow up.
also it cant be actual space since he fell. Otherwise he would have kept his velocity moving forward
@@brokenman58 newtons law, anything that has mass has gravity and attracts other things, so do wormholes have mass, are wormholes matter,
@@playwell_4life if they do he would have been pulled in so fast he would have immediately been burning up on reentry
In that universe, Thanos Died so easily without Tony even dying. So ...
When Tony Killed Thanos and Finally Return the Earth, Then Tony Telling the Avengers about his Story a Lot More than Thanos Fleet Destroyed
And Later on Battle against Mysterio, When Mysterio Finally Won And Caught on Peter with a Clenching his Throat. But then After that, Tony Shot on Mysterio's Backshot with Hand Palm Blaster and He Caught Mysterio and He Lives
Imagine in Spiderman: Far From Home
@@markarvembulaquena4606 backshot?🤨
@@markarvembulaquena4606that battle with mysterio can only happen in a world where Tony is dead after he met Peter Parker, your scenario doesn’t work based on the order of events
@@CartoonCo-Op In Civil War Where He Met Peter Parker was a SpiderMan, Not What I Meant What You Said
Have you Forgot about Series Movie in Marvels Timeline
@@beanking1728
Backshot: Shot At The Back
Backstab: Stab At The Back
That was an automatic de-icing he likely built into the suit to engage whenever it loses power, just like in Iron Man 1
Yup
Then why didn’t it do it in what if
Also the suit turned off. An instant of no power, means instant shut-off for software/Jarvis.
@@Dem_433they probably forgot about it in what if I can’t think of anything else or that’s why he got stuck because the flaps didn’t detach properly
@@Phantom-wu9su capacitors. Batteries. I’m sure tony stark of all people put in a fail safe for when his arc reactor shuts down or he passes out for Jarvis to do a last-ditch effort to save him like we saw in the movie.
That was the booster ran out of fuel so it automatically detached…not jarvis here
Turns out the entire episode's name was "What if, Jarvis was dumber"
No!
😂
I really wish they would have swapped "what if the avengers died" with this episode. Mainly because that episode served nothing to the final episode of season 1.
@peteralexandergraae2830 I mean. Because the Avengers died. It showed up in episode 9 for the Black Window that lost her entire universe
@@fierdrages6523 no it didn't. Black widow died in that universe. Everyone died. That episode (while great, i loved it, don't get me wrong) had nothing to do with the season finally. No characters were brought to save the multiverse, not even as a distraction (zombie reference was a great touch)
Was that jarvis though? I always thought the shoulder plates came off simply due to damage/friction
nope, i believe tony told jarvis to detach the plates after releasing the nuke. definitely not damage or friction
Well I think Wanda's boyfriend has that much intelligence
That wasnt Jarvis, Jarvis had no control of the suit when it powered off. The plates coming off was just an automatic design Iron Man had added
Yeah it was as to jettison the extra thrusters Tony had designed into the MK 7 armour
Ok 2 things.
1. Tony lost consciousness because of the lack of oxygen and the absolute cold, he didn’t “lose control”
2. The cartridges ejecting themselves was not Jarvis, since Jarvis had already lost connection. It was a programmed thing in the suit to release extra weight, because when the suit runs out of that accelerant, it now is dead weight, same as in Iron Man 2, when Tony used his laser cartridge and had to eject it afterward. It was however the correct amount of push in the opposite direction to save him, thankfully.
You clearly dont know how space works.
@@ashvinsharma97 Care to elaborate? Nowhere in my explanation did I say that space works a certain way. You see a very logical and thought out issue I took with this video and decide that you know better. If you do, then where in my comment did I say that space works a certain way, and even if you find the most minute of details there that shows that, that wasn’t the main point of my comment. The whole point of it was to correct an inaccurate statement in the video, saying that JARVIS was the one to eject the thrusters from Tony’s suit.
Not to mention, that this is a science-fiction film that we are talking about. My explanation was based on the rules that the film gave us and what the film showed. If you watch The Avengers, you will clearly see that I am correct on both counts.
@@matthewdegraw6947you must be fun at parties...
@@matthewdegraw6947 You said Tony lost consciousness because of the lack of oxygen and the absolute cold. I never put logic to that sequence but nobody can lose consciousness so quickly for any of the two reasons you mentioned. Also the suit CAN provide oxygen as in the beginning of the move Tony can be seen tweaking the power lines to make Stark Tower run on arc reactor power.
Since its a movie i did not put logic into it, but clearly there is no evident of suit creating pressure inside. So Tony should have actually died of imploding, or his blood should have started to boil inside his body because of no pressure.
@@ashvinsharma97 wrong again. It wasn’t his suit providing oxygen, because his suit had died. That was why Tony told JARVIS to “save the rest for the turn. You forget that Tony was using a prototype suit for at least 45 minutes, using every weapon in his arsenal to defeat the Chitauri. Plus, He lost consciousness a good minute or more after entering the depths of space. His suit was able to protect him from imploding or blood boiling because that is what the suit was designed to do, but since the Iron Man suits weren’t designed for deep space travel yet, he got the lower impact of nearly dying. Notice how after Tony returned from the wormhole, Steve checked to see if he was breathing? Ya, Tony almost died. And while it is somewhat comical that Hulk roaring brought him back, that was the joke. You can’t apply out of universe explanations for in universe problems, especially when said problem is an interdimensional portal sending a legion of aliens led by a Norse god, and they all somehow have far more advanced technology than the smartest man on the planet(at least for now, until we get Reed Richards). This is Science-Fiction, not real life.
That suit was off so Jarvis couldn't do it.
My PS5 runs updates while in sleep mode
@@tousticyeah it’s sleeping, it still has power
The suit during that scene stopped working instead of going to sleep
Did your ps5 go to space while carrying a missile through a wormhole and suffer damages to the point it stopped working? Yeahhhh nah.@@toustic
You guys are dumb right, how does your alaram work did you all play music when its 6 o clock and go to sleep then wake up saying alaram woke us,its preplaned,that suit works that way
Well your alarm won't ring if your phone is out of battery
I thought it was just a space reaction...but, it's not.....
How someone can write these kind of minor detailing in a movie.....writers are GOAT
For the first 11 years sure... Marvel nowadays is meh accept for Spiderman 3 and GotG vol.3
@@-zerxvil-5208It's the over saturation. When they're passion projects, they're done amazing.
@@-zerxvil-5208 isn't spider-man 3 17 years old? how does it fall under marvel nowadays?
@@shealupkesBy 3 they mean No Way Home, not the Raimi/Maguire one.
@@Jaser200 they said spider-man though
Your right, Jarvis does deserve a like, but you don’t
Context? Why is this dude getting flamed
@@qstar1237He is asking for likes on the video because of Jarvis.
Was it due to the shoulder plates giving more weight? I think it was
Not canon
No, It was the opposite force created from them separating. If you were to throw something in space it would send you back slightly.
@@braindeadenthusiast7159 oh okay thank you
@@henrydanger8485 what if is canon. Obviously it’s just a different story of what if this happened. But everything it shows mostly aside from new stuff, and plot like iron man taking the missile in space was cannon.
It is space. Weight and gravity literally don't exist up in space in the way we experience it on earth
“Newton’s third law, you’ve got to leave something behind” -Cooper
Jarvis is offline at that point
So you want us to like this video when Jarvis did the good work 🤣
“What if Jarvis didn’t save Tony?”
“Tony wouldn’t have been saved”
Wow high quality content this channel is putting out.
How did Jarvis do that if his suit lost power?
Fun question there
Prob Jarvis did it on the last minute
He didn't. This guy's just glazing the writers for something he imagined.
Suit did have some power left , it lost signals.
So in a way Jarvis saved the world since by saving Tony who later sacrificed himself to stop thanos
Yes and no, because if Jarvis didn't do it, Tony and Gamora wouldve killed Thanos themselves
Damn you're getting destroyed in these comments bro💀💀💀
Oh yeah I saw it now, he was able to make it because he was l lighter
It’s more an issue of Newton’s third law. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction in this case the shoulder boosters created the equal and opposite reactions
And there’s no gravity in space so technically he would have no weight, he would just have mass
But S4 tony stark and gamora easily killed thanos WITHOUT dying. Why am i seeing Jarvis as villain here? 😤
That makes no sense the suit shut down meaning Jarvis shut down meaning he had no control over the suit
After watching this video I am more thankful than ever to have a brain
Jarvis was a hero even before he became Vision
Wow, that very, very, VERY small detail of the difference between the choices made by an AI made so much a difference.
I always assumed that those things automatically detached. Kinda like normal spaceships after leaving atmosphere.
Iron Man helped kill thanos in what if so he kind of saved that universe but it was mostly Gamora.
What about you delte ur channel and lets see how our universe is affected nikka
The dummy Ai could have taken over the entire suit
he probably hadnt given jarvis that ability yet, he was still in the testing phase and might accidentally grind tony into a meat pretzel lol. just a speculation not a fact.
plus if he gave dummy that ability tony wouldn't be needed anymore dummy would be a better hero than he ever was and the world would be saved permanently because dummy is the goat
Ever heard of Ultron/vision?
well, yes and no. There would not be Ultron. So Jarvis save tony, but didnt save us from Ultron
Who stopped the city from wiping out the planet? Tony did
@@benjy_3264who wanted to do that? Tony's creation
@@megavictor025 so if he created it and stopped it then it had no impact. also forget ultron he saved the entire universe, without him, that aint happening, the president wouldve been killed and spiderman probably wouldve been killed too
That was better tho they kill Thanos
No, it was Tony all along, because Tony learns from his mistakes.
Jarvis deserves a like ❌
Jarvis deserves a raise ✅
Wow i never noticed that 😯
Which episode?
S2e3 I think
How does losing the shoulder plates give him extra boost exactly?
Recoil
@@alexiserlexcc 😈
Then finally, tony will explore the space or alien culture and his technology will advance!! He will become a "space iron man" to a cosmic iron man!😎
Well i think no thanks to jarvis because if tony didn't make to earth and the things go according to what if then he has not to die neither natasha nor gamora if you seen what if s1 s2 you know what i am saying when watcher was picking his multiverse Avengers he picked gamora (destroyer of thanos and beside her tony was standing making sure that thanos gauntlet completely melted ..... So i guess no thanks to jarvis
Jarvis don't deserve a like because in the what if episodes Tony with gamora kill thanos
And how exactly does removing the shoulderplates help tony?
But in the what if series Iron Kills Thanos
So Jarvis have seen this ad “ Eat 5-star and do nothing “ 😂😎
I mean Jarvis not "saving" Tony lead to Thanos dying very early on, and therefore iron man survived in the end
Bro there was no physics in it
To gave him a extra push the mass should have released in the front side or pinting towards the opposite side of wormhole that will give tony a slight push.
He makes it back to Earth regardless and returns to the Avengers. The Tower isn't a one hundred percent guarantee, as Pepper may or may not have rebuilt it as Stark Tower, but Tony could've built a mansion or compound for them. Or another tower separate from his.
Friday sucks, she got tony killed, at least he will be doctor doom now
Thanks Me Later...😂
What if Horward stark (tony's father) father births a girl 😅😅😅
It results to IRONWOMAN 😅😅😅
Um they defeated thanos rather easily in the end of that what if story line so he didn't really save the universe from him
How many of you know that Jarvis is now vision?
Vision said he wasn't Jarvis or Ultron.
Not our universe. It's MCU
But in that universe tony defeats thanous easily
“jarvis deserves a like” the heck is this npc ahh statement
Jarvis is great!! 🙂👍❤️💛
Jarvisnon era più connesso....
Yeah well you're not Jarvis are you
Jarvis already discussed when tony went to space.
Bro why are there 14k likes and I’m the 19th comment 💀
I actually think this was more of an animation error/retcon that the animation team at What If failed to notice despite obviously being shown on screen. I’m guessing it’s more of an animation error instead of a retcon, as this could be easily fixed if the animators didn’t forget to have the Mark 7 flaps detached from the armor.
Besides, there’s already a retcon in the episode where the Mark 7 functions like the Mark 42, which is baffling as the Mark 7 wasn’t designed to have auto suit-up abilities
Ur not Jarvis so no likes for you😂
🥲👍 I like you ❤️
Jarvis The Universe Saviour ❤️❤️
Yo it in the script , so stop the what if
dude it's the literal name of the show
W Jarvis bro
BRO YOU SHOULD HATE ON JARVIS IF HE HAD KEPT THE SHOULDER PLATES on then tony and gamora would have killed thanos and tony would have survived
W Jarvis
What makes me angry is that why Captain America couldn't wait for Tony to get out of the wormhole first before he commanded Black Widow!!!!!!!!!!!!😠😫
We finally got someone acknowledging human Jarvis 🥳🥳🥳
People who don’t know the guy at 0:34 is Jarvis Howard Stark named the AI after Jarvis
Imagine that what if happen while TVA still around ...
Will TVA gonna just appear in space and teleport Tony back to earth ? ...
Or they gonna arrest JARVIS for disturbing the sacred timeline, then prune that universe ? ...
And then Jarvis got replaced by FRIDAY no hate to FRIDAY but I miss jarvis
what if no one cares
Best possible outcome-Tony armor plate not being removed , This small change would end THANOS
“What if jarvis didn’t do this?”
TVA: “ready up boys”
Wow!! It's really awesome how such bullshit can be spoken so confidently😂😂😮💨..
Something else would've happened if not this😂😂... Anything and everything changes the fate of the universe anyway😂😂
Well after announcement of RDJ coming as DR Doom. Lot of questions to be asked on those avengers film. Hints like in Age of Ultron opening Tony grab that tesseract. Is this intertwined with reality? Makes sense that he saw every avengers get killed by holding that tesseract! It seems marvel is not seeking Endgame problem solved. We know marvel always confusing😅
Maybe they put that hint for future projects like Avengers: Doomsday!
If i tell something that totally reject this explanation.
Law of Gravity " Gravity pulls everything towards earth by equally accelaration, which is not affected by mass/weight of object." It means 1000kg and 1kg of weight pulls by Gravity equally and both weight take same time to reach earth if both are releasing at the same point and same time.😅
If Jarvis hadn't done that. Tony would have kill Thanos a long back there. And Black widow half asgaurdians and tony himself would be alive.
Jarvis though take a good decision for present but things would be better if he hadn't.
Well it was much better timeline. Tony Stark became much stronger in Sakaar. Gamora killed Thanos much earlier. Tony started using nidavellir for making his armor.
Ditching the shoulder plates wouldn't give him an "extra boost" because gravitational acceleration back through the wormhole would have been the same regardless of his mass. The wormhole just closed faster in the "What If?..." episode, that's all
Cartridges ejecting is basic engineering for most propulsion systems tho....
Marvel’s What If should make a episode about What If James Cameron’s Spider-Man actually happen? Or what if Disney never bought Marvel?
How did I not notice this
Space is a vaccum. So whether the plates are ejected or not, the speed of his fall wouldn't be affaected. The question we should be asking is how is Tony falling at all without gravity in space? Unless, earth's gravity can also pass through the wormhole.
Shoulder plates, those are not shoulder plates... Those are supposed to be the back flaps of his suit to support his flight. You clearly don't know what you're saying. Also, Jarvis didn't do that. That programed into the suit for failsafe measures.
This is because Captain America wanted that Black Widow have to close the wormhole. If he waited longer, Tony will have made it.
But in that universe, thanos died easily.... So... 😌 Jarvis be like:Eat fivestar & do nothing
Man Jarvis literally saved the world from Thanos because if he didn’t take Iron Man shoulder pads off, Iron Man would’ve died in avengers one so then he wouldn’t be able to snap his fingers in avengers endgame W Jarvis.
At this point I'm really confused which is "our" Universe
Saying after watching the "loki"
Maybe I’m just stupid but that makes no sense for a couple reasons
1. The suit was powered off so Jarvis couldn’t do anything
2.those plates wouldn’t have effected his falling speed since he was in the vacuums of space where there would be no resistance against him which means he would fall at the same rate regardless of having the plates or not. If any thing tony should have been launched further into space since air would be flooding into the wormhole and by extension into space which would push Tony farther
Why Jarvis remove the soldier plate. Heavy weight fall faster than lite weight because of gravity.😅
I miss that attention to details from the MCU and there was a lot micro details like scattered throughout the Infinity Saga. Now they are just using this universe to send messages that are sometimes not welcome. We don't ask football players to be filmmakers just like we don't ask a superhero film to tell us about inclusions. They lost their way and we lost this amazing comic book universe for the benefit of their wokism
Please explain what shoulders blades are capable of . It is for flying, right ?
I'm not sure if this was on purpose, they might have just had it be Tony getting sucked in just for the story. If it wasn’t tyey stumbled ass backwards into a butterflies wings, if ot was on purpose someone is a genius.
Jarvis didn't remove the plates because when tony became unconscious Jarvis also disconnected from the suit it was the emergency protocol of tony's suit
Note: Jarvis is an OS not an AI in my opinion. AI change... OS can also be smart but it still operates under certain principles that doesn't change. And Jarvis until the end operated with certain principles.
And bro deserves a like to point it out.
If you watched that episode Tony gets back to earth and kills thanos without sacrificing himself
Then Jarvis wouldn't be updated anymore