🔵Should you feed pollen patties to help your bees???
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- You don't have to feed it but if you do you need to watch out!
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The maple bloom is still a couple of months away here in Walla Walla, WA. One of my favorite days of the year is when I head out to the shop and hear the maples in our yard buzzing. Soon.
It might sound funny but the cats is my favorite part of every video seems like a nice farm cat.
Super Good stuff! Thanks for sharing the info and your pollen supplement recipes. We appreciate You!
We ALL need to Start Saying Something!!! Few of em put out Alot of false Info.. Alot of yeast not good in winter,Bees will gather Wood Ashes but it don't mean feed it to them 😂 Kudos for Warning our New Beekeepers,We all need to stick together, like Michael Palmer said their doing more damage than necessary to our new Beekeepers..Very Good Job
I love the cats! Thanks for the good info:)
Learned some bee stuff from you. Like your cats Kamon. Very intelligent and well spoken presentation. Thanks bro.
Great way to suppliment . . what I learned today is . . . what works here may not work there ( I live in Massachusetts) zone 5 . . this will work for me and its great for me to do this before the flow.. after all a bee pollen patty will not be consumed if not needed . . I compare it to spending cash.. ( natural pollen) is cash . . a Bee pollen patty is like a credit card . .its there if bees want and need it.. ( what if it rained for 24 days . . you get it.... Bee keeping has no rules . . results are not published... bee keeping is a time sensitive game... if you cheap out.. thats what you get . . Remember your a bees are a product of thier own environment . . this is great info . . .Thank you Tony
Keep doing what you guys are doing,and putting the info out straight forward....🖒
Thank you
Sounds like some good solid advice to me. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Kamon, you answered my question about bees removing pollen Patty from the hive. In NC bees have been bringing in a bunch of pollen this winter where I live.
Kamon we appreciate your videos and share a lot of your philosophies with Beekeeping. My wife and I have a small apiary in North GA near NC called G's Bees Apiary. Keep the info coming.
Thanks Jim. Hope 2020 is the best year for you all and your honeybees!
My bees been hitting my spent coffee grinds. Girls love it. 1st trees for my area is black locust. Late February to early March. I'll start feeding about 2 weeks before. I have locust everywhere.
Insurance for your bees, well Done Kamon, good helpful info as always.
Thanks how are things down under?
Here in Northern California, if you have a pollination contract with Almond producers, you started feeding pollen last week to ramp up brood production. February 1st comes fast.
I got a phone call in the middle of the video but I caught most of it. You hit the nail on the head as far as pest management. But I would add that maintaining bees is all about thermodynamics. During winter, you want your colony small not only to manage pests, but also to regulate hive temperature. There is a critical mass past which a colony cannot maintain brood production which causes hive weakness or death. This time of year, 4-6 weeks before first bloom, is when I ramp up brood production with supplemental pollen. I won't recommend any brands, because they aren't paying me haha. But the purpose is not maintenance as I've heard some "TH-cam Bee Experts" say. It's so when nectar starts your bees are in 5th gear, ready to hit the flowers.
Flowers are blooming here in central Florida and with just two hives all is well😂❤️❤️❤️
Thanks, Kamon!
Here in my area in central Georgia the bees are bringing in dandelion and Henbit pollen for the past 10 days or so.
Wow, I'm in Pennsylvania and we're half way through the cold stuff. We won't see Maple for at least another 5-6 weeks at least.
Amen..well stated...there are interruption in the pollen supply..in south Louisiana, natural pollen has been coming in for some time. I use ultra bee patty and powder. I try to keep powder in feeders in yards most of the time. If they do not need it they will not use it. When several days of inclimate weather the patty makes a difference. When natural pollen is wet the powder is there. Never heard of any expert who thought it was optional. Can't wait to try your patty recipe. Love your videos and the comments.
Shirt looks great..I have one just like it.
Thanks !!
Great video thanks 👍😊
Thanks
very nice expression, we have been beekeeping for years, the biggest reason why my strong hives go to the son before the honey flow is because the pollen is low, so if I give reinforcements, it will not go to the son.
I was jus watching a video of silence of the bees and how different chemicals affect the digestive system ect,,And
the notification Came..🇱🇨👊👍🖤
Great info
I love the new pollen patty recipe. It doesn't dry out even in the 115+ days we have here in AZ.
Thanks for the feedback Brian. I am start to tinker with it a little more to potentially speed up consumption. if anything cool happens I will let you know.
The only one I kan bay is feed bee. Shud l ???
I have seen good success with Beetle Barns, using honey and boric acid as bait. Tried the same traps with roach bait and no change.
I’m currently feeding pollen patties to my bees and they are eating it rather slowly, I also have a pollen feeder hanging with Ultrabee in it and the bees are not consuming any of the Ultrabee but here in central Alabama my bees are still bringing in pollen. I think they may be getting it from dandelions since I’m seeing a lot of those blooming lately. I’ve been wondering if I was doing the right thing by feeding the patties so Thanks Kamon for this information!
Multiple Pollen patty recipe videos th-cam.com/play/PLbahx4WxwRgq2gwNv_5nWyfBHXFHVH5Bz.html
SHB controls th-cam.com/play/PLbahx4WxwRgqvkbZw5pLlvxJ6HDttq_65.html
All beekeeping is local. good job.
How it works for me. Central Illinois. Put pollen sub in hives in mid to late march. They're already brooding and it makes them brood heavier. By maple and dandelion time I've got voo coo bees where if I didn't feed the pollen sub...I'd be way behind. I get an early crop from dandelions. Not much but it's a positive.
Do not pay any attention to anyone i mean anyone...keep doing what it is you do...keep on track...keep giving your advice becouse it is great....ps..still looking for a couple of cats to go with my bees.
I feed ultra bee open feeding my bees our loving it. They are tearing it up. But I am in South Texas.
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Chicken feed! Been seeing my bees grubbing around in scratch feed! I just put out dry sub (Ultrabee) and hit the colonies up with a patty between deeps and candy on top.
Most chicken feed has soy protein in it which is one of the ingredients of most pollen subs.
Thank you for making this video.
Before my bees starve, I will feed them sugar water, dry sugar and pollen or whatever it takes.
Dead bees may be good as fertilizer, but for sure do NOT make sweet honey.
It takes the bees only a few days without food before they die , unless they have stores build up or find food somewhere else..
I have a tube type feeder set out near my hives with dry pollen substitute. They have been hitting it for the past 3-4 weeks when the weather is good. Had a problem with the patty's and hive beetles so only use them as a emergency source if needed.
Forgot to say I live in NE Missouri and we are having a mild winter also.
@@cecildean3648 Cecil, I live in Washington, Mo and my 2 hives have been hitting the dry pollen feeder for the last month. As you know, we've had many days above 45 still...i have my hives tied down and did not want to open up yet.They have a thick candy board on them. Just worry about this premature mild winter and all the dry pollen they are taking in...at some point I will have to go in and check...i know what can happen here in Missouri! Best of luck with your bees.
@@cnevett6854 I have opened my hives when it been in the 50's and pulled a couple of frames just to check them. I have not pulled frames within the cluster but on the edges. I have mountain camp sugar in all my hives and that is the reason I open them most of the time. I do say I wear my hood most of the time as they do not like the hive being opened this time of year. I live near Mark Twain Lake out side of Perry, MO.
Could you just add some pollen grains on top of the crownboard?
Dadant AP23 dry works well where I live
building more hives
So purchasing ultrabee do you have to add something to it or can you just feed it straight using an outside feeder?
Great information Kamon, So much misinformation I find being given out by the so called experts. I find that like you said in a previous video that new beekeepers should listen to the professional beekeepers like your self that have real world experience.
Thanks Charles. I just think that once folks get to the point of sustainability it becomes fun. Healthy beehives make everybody smile.
Beautiful, so my 3 years of college education and following 15 years of field work apparently did not happen in the ''real world''. You cite profession as if money is the deciding factor for knowledge in Melittology.
Both of us have experience with bees, yet only one of us has empirical data.
Kamon, is there a concern that feeding protein too soon may promote more brood too quickly and the colony may not be large enough to keep the brood warm?
I literally just commented about this. Thermodynamics IS bee management. Where you live is critical in determining when you would start supplementing for brood production. You'd have to do research as to when your first blooms are in your area. I aim for 4-6 weeks before then for supplemental pollen feed so when it first hits my hives are ready to hit it hard.
I like your philosophy...could be summed up as "Ounce of PREVENTION worth a pound of Cure"... Thanks or could also say "Never let your Bees be hungry"
Ounce
@@josephchianelli3623 I could blame it on Autocorrect but I should of double checked before sending...Thanx
Kamon - thanks for the great videos! I have about 3/4 gal of leftover 2:1 from my fall feeding. It has been kept in the refrigerator and still looks good. Can I mix the 2:1 with dry Bee-Pro pollen to make patties? Is it okay to eyeball it to get a good constancy, or is the sugar-water-pollen ratio important? This is my first winter, and my single hive looks okay so far, but went into winter without much food. They currently are surviving on a mound of mountain camp sugar...
2:1 with sub likely will dry out. If the patties get dry they won't use them. Using the recipe we have with Veg. oil helps prevent that from happening. Also use parchment paper.
Thank you kamon your a great teacher.. there are so many other vids out there I try to avoid I don't want information overload so I just have followed what you offer..I'm certain I've made the right decision..
You are too kind Gino. Thanks and best of luck to you and your bees for 2020!
My bees are hitting my Ultrabee Pollen big time ! The girls go in and come out covered with pollen....I might try the patties you make ....I do have a sugar water feeder in each hive so should I continue filling them during Winter??
Hi Kamon. .how many days before nectar flow you stop sugar syrup feeding?
I have a question off this topic. I have a problem moving the top deep hive body. What are your ideas about going to 8 frames or stay with 10 frames but use one or two mediums in place of the top deep?
10s are too heavy for me 🤣🤣
Nice info! Totally agree , be careful with those recipes. I use Ultra bee and get great results. Here's to the Maple bloom!
cin ya use this fer the wild hives as well? thank ya fer the video
Kamon, how is the winter ❄️ feed working out? Just curious. Thank you for the videos you have helped a lot out here in Northern California.
The pro winter patties?
Yes you had some you were going to try?
@@scottpierson7495 ah yes. I just think scott for the money you drop they are a poor buy. They work here but I have heard from experienced northern beekeepers that the roughage from the protein could be an issue if the bees can't take a cleansing flight for many weeks or months. Ultimately you can make you own sugar bricks for a fraction of the price and if you want you can add some protein to them.
Just curious if you have a pollen sub recipe you’d recommend? I understand you use a branded bee pollen sub but what makes the branded subs so superior? Love watching your videos and getting all the free info I can from you . Greatest respect but please give your recipe on bee pollen subs besides the $11 lb branded subs. Kinda strange bees will hit chicken scratch when they need protein, is that bad for them also? 🤷♂️ Apprentice Bee keeper here! 🤓
For your area, are you moving away from Mt. Camp sugar and moving to 2:1 syrup?
Hey Lara we just did the MNT camp for the videos. It is an emergency feed and we prefer to feed the liquid sugar syrup in fall. so we don't have to emergency feed. If I had to emergency feed I am leaning towards the sugar bricks. They are very handy and uniform
Where is the best place to get bulk sugar for cheap?
Do you know anything about spirulina powder which is 66° protein
You mentioned links to recipe and/or source for ProSweet and the other ingredients for making the Pollen Sub. Could you add them here please? Thank you!
I found the other videos with the recipes. Thanks
What are your thoughts on the Pro Winter Patties from Mannlake?
Hey Don, too expensive and nothing special. is what i have thought after using a bucket
Kamon is your recipe for the pollen pattie with prosweet posted anywhere. Maybe I missed it. Thanks.
26 pounds of prosweet. 6 pounds of sugar. 15 lbs of ultrabee. It can be made thicker or thinner by adjusting the sugar to prosweet ratio. You will need a decent drill to mix it
Hi Kamon. I filled out a order form for nucs a few days ago. I did not get an email on where to send the deposit. I'm not sure if you got the order or are sold out. I filled out a second order just in case the first one did not go through.
Hey Jody! we will be sending you an email with all the details this evening or in the morning thanks so much and we will keep you posted
Hi Kamon do you make your own feeder rims if so whats the dimensions ?
1.5 inches deep and the same size as the box. Like a mini super
@@kamonreynolds OK Thanks i'm gonna start making some up
I seen my bees bringing in some kind of seed (whole seeds). Seemed weird to me.
C Guy my bees are doing the same thing, good to know I’m not the only one with wakadoo bees 🤪
Am I missing the link to the recipe's?
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how many acres do you have Kamon?
Just 3 but I have access to a couple hundred
Kamon, all this pollen sub talk brings up a question I would love to hear you talk about. I hear from time to time Beekeepers talking about the virtues of feeding bananas just like pollen patties.....thoughts?
How did ur bees do on the winter patties from manlake, mine don't seem to like it
I am not a fan of the pro winter patties. Over priced and nothing you can't make at home.
I have a shirt just like that.
Hi K, odd question: if the bees aren’t consuming patties quick enough and you get SHB larvae, can you remove it and microwave it to kill the larvae?
Never tried a micro wave but the freezer works great.
Kamon Reynolds - Tennessee's Bees I just figured real quick nuke it and put it back. Freeezing works! Hey K, if you’re doing an IPM - 3 or more treatments, what do you use. OA in winter I know. What is the first one in spring then next after the flow?
Kamon thanks great info. I can’t find the recipe you mentioned instead of using pro sweet.
th-cam.com/video/BxBdt3llNdk/w-d-xo.html
If you can afford it feed pollen and sugar (no matter how much honey they have) after first frost all winter. They will be exploding with the first flowers when other colonies are just building up. I live in PA and fed last winter. Correct don’t miss the first flow.
Feeding Kitty Cats pollen patties? Here Kitty Kitty Kitty.
gees the first thing I hear is bees the only thing I can do up here for the next 3 months is make sure they are not starving , but at least I don't have small hive beetle.
The days do go by slooooow in the North but I am getting frames and boxes built to kill the time.
I don’t see link for Beatle traps.
sorry about that th-cam.com/play/PLbahx4WxwRgqvkbZw5pLlvxJ6HDttq_65.html
@@user-md4di6yg2p Trap and kill. The fewer SHB the less damage to the pollen patty
I hate auto correct after a long day....and internet smart asses
It was just a joke, son. Maybe chill out by the hive after a hard day's work...always works for me.
What’s in the container on the truck? Looks dark?
Hey, Ray, it is Prosweet. It is pretty light actually just looks dark thru the container
Kamon Reynolds - Tennessee's Bees kool! That’s truck is a beauty and a beast!!
are you using the new camera
Hey Thomas, I am. It isn't a huge upgrade but with the way the kids eat we did what we could.
@@kamonreynolds yes be glad when it is warm enough for the garden to grow free food
Boy, do you have a lot to learn about feeding bees.
I would have to agree. Thankfully I am young and ambitious so I can learn. It doesn't make it easy when guys like you who do know more are all about talking up how much you know but when asked you have nothing to say. If you do by all means lay it on me or be a speaker at my conference. Pay is good.
But Unless you have something constructive to say.... Hit the road Keith.
@@kamonreynolds I'm not the one making misleading video's on you tube, pollen sub should have specs of around 23% protein & 8% fats, they also should have the right kind of fat. Good sub will be consumed when there is a pollen flow! What's the profile on the sub you are feeding in your video ?
@@wendyjarrett903 All I can tell folks is what I know or think I know. Correct, incorrect, partly correct. That is it. I do know more now then I did when filming this video.
Ultra-bee can be kicked out during heavy flows and yes that likely is due to inferior quality and low fat count but what am I supposed to do? Tell folks to buy a semi load of yours? Make their own? Don't bother feeding? There are thousands of people who want to become beekeepers and beekeeping has never been harder and the great information is hard to come by. Furthermore, the great info is lost and scattered among the treatment free dribble, essential snake oils, and lazy beekeeping gurus because pros like you are too busy making a living which has left the education of today's beekeepers to lesser educators.
When I filmed this I was driving a semi full time, running 300 hives, attempting to learn and get out of the truck, and trying to be a good dad and husband. I'm doing my best.
Not looking for pity, I imagine everyone goes thru this if they work and try to make something of themselves.
I appreciate the % on proteins and fats. As you know it would take a significant amount of time for me to even get a sub that could compare to the average one on the market much less something like yours.
I don't fully understand what it is you want. Belittling me doesn't do anything for you business wise. Me promoting Nutra bee likely wouldn't do much either.
If I tell everyone:
"this is what is best for bees" but they will never know until someday someone creates a great product that is available for all beekeepers.
I am always willing to learn especially from those who do.
Heck, I'd pay for info that actually made a difference. God knows I have paid for crap.
At this point I believe overall I am doing more good than harm to small scale beekeepers whom by and large are scared to even use a pollen patty. I will continue to get better especially with my new professional beekeeping comrades who tell me my shortcomings often.
I am always open to insight from doers and innovators to beekeeping even when it comes in a condescending form.
My offer still stands on speaking if you ever decide to do that kind of thing. Or darn you can do a live chat with me like Ian did
Both gigs pay.
Kamon I have been a beekeeper for decades and was a successful commercial operator of over 1100 colonies...thank-you for your video tutorials, you are helping a lot of new people!!! Ultra bee as far as I am concerned is the best pollen sub to date and is widely used in my area of Saskatchewan Canada.. usually fed dry in feeding stations to supplement the stored bee bread that remains in the hives or early pollen flows...it makes a huge difference every single year...I used Mann lake patties with pro health last fall on strong colonies to boost my colonies nutrition and replace the old field bees...the bees devoured it and went into winter very strong...as well I fed "Hive Alive" in the sugar syrup to boost the bees health and keep any Nosema in check...I checked on my bees in the indoor wintering facility about 10 days ago and there are bees all the way across down to the bottom board...here's hoping they look that good in April when we bring them out of winter quarters.
You are doing great..keep up the good work with your videos...there are many more of us that enjoy your content than the few armchair critics that that cannot offer constructive opinions in a nice way!