MAJOR Trouble at TOYOTA
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Today on the Daily News You Can Use, Ray and Zach discuss two major stories with Toyota. One involving a massive recall and the other an additional scandal. Tune in to learn more!
As a quality engineer I can tell you that companies are happy to lay off quality people and zero out the quality department budgets without care if it makes a quick buck for shareholders and the CEO. There's a broad failure to realize that a quality department actually makes the company more money than it costs almost without exception.
So true
quality is usually untalented and inept and have to be hand held constantly...true in software development too
@@dwaynediesel6079 you mean the DEI or the we wuz kangs and shiets crowd
If operations and engineering did their jobs correctly, you wouldn't need a quality group. @dwaynediesel6079
Stopping Progressive Quality programs will cost you more in the long run. Ask GM, Ford and Dodge. People stopped buying domestically and going to imports because of cars and trucks falling apart. Then they got better. Nissan stepped back on their quality and sales dropped
Toyota should've Never Got Rid of that V8 in the Tundras.
Or just tested their new engine as an option in other platforms first.
Agreed. Though my understanding is that they went to TT V6 due to more stringent emissions standards.
Too bad we can't boycott EPA and CARB.
Or V8 I the 4Runner
@@factchecker9358
CARB is unelected people who made the rules. EPA is just a joke
Drove, 25 years, 8 Toyotas. Bought a Acura MDX, V-6, no turbo. Super upgrade. 4-Cyl, twin turbo=will not last, needs frequent oil changes, as they run hotter. Toyota has run its course.
Sadly, every manufacturer is skewing towards tiny three and four pot turbos. A colleague of mine bought an enormous Mercedes SUV and it also has a tiny diesel four pot. It must be having the living daylights thrashed out of it all the time!
Turbo engines with good maintenance will last for decades. I’ve owned many turbocharged vehicles and I typically put 30+k on vehicles a year I always buy used well maintained vehicles and have never had issues. I’ve owned fords Toyotas Hyundais Mitsubishi’s Chevys and a jeep with no major issues. Maintenance is key with a turbocharged engine 10k oil changes will most definitely reduce life. I always change the oil at 5k with high quality synthetic oil. Maintenance like always is the key to longevity.
The only thing I know is that if Toyota CAN’T control their dealers and distributors I CAN decide to not shop there anymore
Other dealers do the same thing, unfortunately. The manufacturer does not do anything to prevent or deter them.
No one has control . Ford the same way.and the rest.
Name one manufacturer or dealer you can trust.
@@55whiplash Gotcha Motors!
@@55whiplash Nissan
Do less, charge more, a new Toyota way? No wonder Tundra engines are eating main bearings.
Not me, for sure. Until i see those turbo engines cross 300k miles mark, on original turbos.
The engine is an arrogant affront to 110 years of engine design. Separate main bearing caps have been tried and true for over 100 yrs. Toyota in their infinite wisdom decided to throw out combined experience in engine building experience and use a large honeycomb type plate to "reinforce" the main bearings and webs. Result different coefficient of expansion, rigid honeycomb main assembly across the whole bottom end and now instead of each main journal having a separate main bearing cap the bottom end is a large plate holding all the mains at one time.
Engines flex thousands of an inch when they are hot and running. The individual main caps allow each journal to deal with the expansion and contraction at each journal independently from the other.
This "plank" looking bottom end on the Toyota V6 turbo is rigid laterally and sided to side and cannot respond to the few thousands of flex engines have when they are hot and under pressure (particularly aluminum) so the front main has exhibited expectable failure and turned because the main journal cannot respond to the normal heating and expansion as a individual cap type bearing system can.
Bad design and demonstrates the perceived self affirming attitude Toyota has of themselves. We are better than anyone and everyone else just ask us....
I've seen the chevy 2.7 high output turbo engine hit 200k with no issues. Afrew of them even pulling some heavy loads. I been hearing alot of bad things about the tundra. I'd be to spooked to buy one. Even the ford 2.7 turbo is holding up well in high mileage i hear.
And Toyota fangirls still embrace their Stockholm syndrome.
I work for a manufacturer and I’m going to agree with Zach that dealers don’t have to engage in criminal behavior to be cancelled. We have cancelled dealers for a variety of reasons, poor performance, dealer bought out competitive mfg etc. Just like any marriage nothing is forever.
I went to a recently purchased Toyota dealer this past weekend. They had a 2025 Camry SE. 30.700 MSRP. with the convenience package for $600. All weather package $500 several small add-on items from Toyota. The dealer added nothing to the car. Total was $33.542. Three hours later I drove it home for $31.087 at 4.99%. OTD including tax title and license.
Why? You got a discount....
@@justahumbledudethe quality sucks
Your engine wasn't affected at all
@@HH-le1vi and of course you’re the mechanic and know this for certain
@@justahumbledude I am happy about it. I found out everything going on and nothing to worry about.
Toyota prices are up and quality is down.
That’s the business model for inflation. Pay more for less. Embarrassing Toyota went this route..
@@picklerix6162 very easy answer, do not buy Toyota any more .🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨🤨
Very very normal during this period... Nothing to see
I've owned 3 brand new Toyotas in my life. My third was a 2022 Tundra. It will be my last Toyota. Corporate and these dealerships are absolutely horrible to deal with. I used to rave to people about Toyota service | reliability. Not anymore. Stay away.
Exactly. I've owned 7 Toyota vehicles in my life and starting about 10 or so years ago the quality declined rapidly. Makes me sick.
I'm still in disbelief trying to process this news. I am not taking this well at all.😢
I worked for an American Automaker. It was common to falsify records. The rare times people refused to fake data was met with punishment.
Same with the nuclear industry. I worked at 3 different commercial plants and had to quit because I felt so crappy about doing that for the per diem money.
Your 100% being deceitful. You know it. I have 29yrs in automotive biz..at 5 companies! Just 10yrs ago Toyota was hit w/biggest fine in NHTSB history $1B.. for HIDING DEFECTS.
@@j01150126 He's lying. Read my comment. 80% social media is false. Sadly.
@@Davido50 Are you familiar with the Morton Thiokol space shuttle O-Ring story? The only person forced out was the whistle blower, the people who ignored data got bonuses. I suspect all manufacturers force employees to look the other way.
@@Davido50what specific defects are we talking about,?
I canceled my Toyota Tundra purchase on Friday.
Walked away from a Tundra last month. Glad we did. Bought a 2024 4Runner TRD ORP instead.
@@SLHJR0390So, you needed a pickup truck and bought an SUV instead?
@@labradachig1976 we thought about a full size truck as a family hauler. Live in the high desert of Colorado. We’ve always driven land cruisers and 4Runners. If the tundra isn’t reliable it doesn’t matter what market segment I’m cross shopping.
Good call
Too late for me
everyone with one of those Toyota engines should send a oil sample off to Blackstone Labs - stat.
Great idea, the more documentation the better!
There's very few Toyota's actually built in Japan.... GR series and 4 runners are really it. I don't trust Toyota unless the VIN starts with a J.
I just bought a 2024 Lexus UX 250h manufactured in Japan. I’m no engineer but my dad is. That car is so beautifully made. I’m so happy with my purchase. I paid less than I would havd paid on a 2024 Toyota RAV4. Single lady and no kids it’s perfection.
Prius, 86, Land cruiser, supra(Austria) Hilux, Crown and some others not designed for the USA market.
Our 2024 Prime came from Japan (after a 21 month wait).
The quality of New Toyota has gone down
My 2019 Tacoma has been the most unreliable car/truck I have ever owned in 40 years of car ownership
All vehicle brands went down..... all of them..... the game is make it as cheap as possible and sell it as high as possible.
@@Asherikoyup, today the manufacturers want you to trade in for new every 2-4 years. Just long enough for problems to be covered be the warranty then get into another new car or truck.
@@Asheriko I think the biggest problem is bringing more Toyotas to be built in the US. As a grandson to a GM Factory worker, the US quality is crap. My Texas build Tacoma hs been a nightmare.
@@auburnalum9019what year is your Tacoma and what is the first digit does your vehicles vin start with?
The Tundra owners I've talked to are trying to play this down. However from forums the problem extends to the 2024s and the Sequioa. I think the new CEO will be fired soon.
Don't think Toyota is smart enough to do it
I don't know what to say, I'm trying to process this. I've always enjoyed my Toyotas.
@@ajrockinshockin2893 I hear you but Koji is Woke and the direction of the company has been doomed from the word Turbo on a large SUV
I have been a buyer of Toyota and Lexus products for many years. I hate to see what the current company leadership is doing to their reputation. 😡
I feel like Toyota is headed the direction of Boeing if they don’t get new leadership in place soon.
It is not just top level leadership - it extends to mid managers, designers, assembly workers, and so on. The people who were dedicated to quality (it was an ethic, almost a religion) have mostly retired.
@@john_nip_nopDemming would be rolling over in his grave !!
I *LOVE* dealer demo vehicles and buy/flip them occasionally. Every one I have ever purchashed, the warranty time AND mileage did NOT start until titled to me. Bought a 2019 Silverado LTZ 6.2L dealer demo with 7,000miles on it, was still in pristine condition, had accessories added to it and I paid $45k for it. Warranty started at 7,000miles, so it had the B2B coverage until 43,000 miles and powertrain until 67,000 miles. This is a huge selling point when I go to sell them. Drove that Silverado for about 2 years and sold it for $49,000
Good thing I got denied for a 2023 Tundra 😂😂😂
Now you can go down the road (Walking) and at the next fork. Take the correct route.
@@2148aa lol
@@2148aa As the late hall of fame baseball player, Yogi Berra, always said, "When there is a fork in the road...take it." Wise words to live by.
I have a 17 Tacoma with 48,000 K on it and have been keeping the rust check on it every year . Just bought a new scan tool trying to learn how to use it will keep the Tacoma for while yet . The new ones have turbos on them I do not want a turbo
I started out looking at Toyota trucks I have owned 3 over the years..Then I started reading about all the problems with Toyotas so I turned my attention to Nissan Fronters great truck with way less problems and way cheaper to buy..So I just bought a 2023 Nissan fronter 4x4 w/5k clean title for 23k..It took me 8 weeks of looking every day to find one..This one started the price at 30k and every week they would lower it a 1000 or more and then to 25k they told me 25k was the bottom line I waited a week and offered 23 cash and they took it.. The woman I bought it from told me no one has any money.. Lots of good deals out their don't be in a hurry.
Frontier looks like a winner compared to the overpriced and overrated Tacoma. The local Toyota dealer is really pushing Tundras but customers must have wised up and found out about the junk engine.
My local Toyota dealer is jammed with Tundras. My local Nissan dealer can’t keep a Titan or Frontier in stock.
There is a stop/sale on tundra's for obvious reasons.
I purchased the 2023 Toyota Tundra Hybrid TRD Pro. I received a recall notice from Toyota about the tire's excess wear on the outside edge, this was due to an improper alignment from the manufacturer that has destroyed the outside edge of the tires. I took it to Winter Park Toyota, and the service advisory stated that all four tires needed to be replaced since they were already rotated, but they would have to send the information to Toyota warranty for the final approval.
I was shocked when they advised me that Toyota would only replace three of the four tires.
even after the service advisor stated that all four tires needed to be replaced.
I contacted the Toyota advocate and explained the situation they advised me that someone would contact me within 24 hours, after waiting a week I called back and explained the situation again that Winter Park Toyota advised me that all four tires needed to be replaced, I then took it to Toyota of Seminole County and the service advisory also stated that all four tires needed to be replaced but they had to wait for approval from Toyota.
The advocate said they would need to submit another claim to a different department and here I'm still waiting with no response from Toyota to resolve this issue.
Great customer service on a $90,000 truck
Omg 😮 that’s terrible! Hope you finally get some resolution ❤
I grew up in a family that only drove Toyota, and I personally have driven only Toyota since my first car, a 2011 Toyota Camry. I was saving to buy a Tundra as my long-term vehicle; however, after observing the Tundra's issues over the last two years, I realized that I cannot trust it for long trip with my family or in emergencies. Therefore, I decided to buy another brand for the first time, like a Ford F-150. Ford’s isn't perfect either, but at least the issues are known and repairs are cheaper, unlike the new Tundra, where an engine block costs $32k. How can anyone pay $32k for an engine repair after the warranty expires?
How can Subaru and Toyota promote their new trucks that are going to compete with the Ford Maverick when neither the Brut or the Spout even exists according to my local dealers? Why can't the car manufactures understand many of us want an affordable functional vehicle? Seems like a big bait and switch scam.
If you don't reduce advertised price nobody will come into your dealership and realize they can barter over price.
They've fucked themselves with their own stupidity
Long time Toyota family here.
We're through w/ them!
I've had 12 Toyota vehicles. I don't know what to say anymore. I'm shocked and utterly disappointed 😞
7 toyota products here over my car-buying life…I never bought in to the 3rd gen Tundra though…this engine recall is the tip of the iceberg. Tundra had massive QC issues before this….fit & finish, rattling in the rear box, windows & window seal shortcomings, irregular panel gaps, cheap plastic parts, and the list goes on. So much for kaizan (constantly improving). Alas, we discover that the emperor has no clothes. 😳
Dealers need to clean up their acts!
I own a hybrid sienna and I can say I’m not impressed with the interior finish quality and outside finish quality- not the best finish quality. I’m only impressed with the 35 mpg and ample room inside.
Heard this from multiple people who saw it in the test drive and bought Honda odysseys instead
The 2022 Ford Escape that you were talking at the 21:00 minute mark could be the Escape Plug-In Hybrid that has a faulty design and the dealer cannot sell it with a recall in place. My local Ford dealer has at least 2 of these Escapes that are listed on the website at full retail but can't be sold due a known charging issue.
just recently tried to put down a deposit for a Tacoma Trailhunter which is not out yet in Florida. He printed out the paper with the MSRP of 64k and marked through it with a sharpie and put 79k. I was like this is a joke, you are not even hiding it. I then began to explain to him if I came in and said okay I see the MSRP is 64k I want 49k for it. you would treat me as if I was crazy. your at 79k i'm at 49k want to meet in the middle? they would not come down and I walked out. terrible experience. will not go back to that dealer. (Toyota of Orlando)
I don't know, 2020 and before seems like the last of the reputation. My daughter had a 2021 4Runner, it was awful, and they never sorted it. She Lemon Lawed it.
I purchased a Toyota Tacoma Trd pro white in October of last year and what I’m experiencing is the clear guards that I guess are on there to protect it from rocks you could see this rust spots forming going to take it in this Tuesday. Let’s see what happens. I have purchased over seven Toyota vehicle brand new in the last 25 years, and I have never had any problems. Shocking to see rust forming on my truck and I live in Arizona where it’s real dry.
Y’all love to bring up Scottsdale Arizona! Thx for the shoutout. It’s a great city to live in.
I love my 2018 Honda civic with 97k miles but I’m looking for a 4wd vehicle and buying a new Toyota is not even considered. Either going to get an older Toyota or a classic Land Cruiser.
Toyotas new management is a damn disgrace. They are literally killing the company.
Toyota is the new joke of the truck world. All Tacomas only have a little 2.4L 4 banger. And they want 50K for them?? 😂😂😂😂
Blame the government for forcing better gas mileage from car/truck makers.
It’s sad that influencers are praising the new Toyotas just for views/vacations from Toyota. Yes you Trdjon.
He is a grifter of Toyota. Can’t lose those free trips.
Pretty much
I unsubscribed his channel can’t stand his BS!!
Don't forget Tundra dude
2004 Lexus LS430, owned one for 14 years.
Every Lexus technician told me: "They don't build them like that anymore."
Hit 180K and I sold it.
Bought a 2018 Lexus ES350 Ultra-Lux.
Rock solid but not so Lux.
Just not as pleasurable to drive.
Not defending Toyota but Honda, Mazda, Yamaha, and Susuki are also being investigated.
If one manufacturer is up to it, believe me they are all up to it. The same thing in Germany with VW.
VW is one of the worst offenders… let’s look at Dieselgate and now their Automatic Electronic Brake (AEB) Class Action they have…
I live in Mesa AZ and started working for Toyota Financial about a year ago. Been following your channel to learn more about the auto industry. Love your content and cool to learn your connection to the area.
My dad wanted to buy a new Thundra without the crazy markups. Now, he's looking at the GMC 1500.
From one junk pile to another
That's called "Moral Turpitude" and I'd bet you a $1 that there's a MT clause in their dealer contracts
But GM marketing has been just as bad as their products over the years.
I don't believe there is anything that costs $34k on a gm that needs to be replaced. Honestly, this is the biggest kick in the pants from any auto manufacturer. Toyota grabbed a couple of pages from the gm playbook and ran with them.
I think you're both right, Toyota probably has a termination clause that allows them to terminate their deal in the case of fraud convictions, but at the same time they probably don't want to terminate the deal as they probably don't want to have to replace all distribution of an entire geographical region of the US on short notice just to make a quick buck during a time when they're already struggling to produce enough product. Their dealers would be screaming at them nonstop for a good year while they figure stuff out and then profits would be down for several years while they figure out all the fine details, which the old distributor would surely not volunteer to help them to figure out.
Re: The government wouldn't complain if your testing was more stringent...my county inspectors had a shit fit when I built my garage better and stronger than the plans I had submitted.
The machining story is a bunch of bs. This is for engines built in both the U.S. and Japan. So there is machining debris in multiple locations? This is clearly a design issue and I expect to see this recall to spread to 2024 models as well. Tundra and LX engines are experiencing numerous catastrophic failures with their bearings.
Exactly
The southeast distributor for Toyota adds 2200-2500 per vehicle here in Greenville, SC.
Imagine not having a car and having 40 years less experience in the industry and arguing you’re right till you’re blue in the face. Kind of coming across really cocky recently Zack
Toyota laid a bomb with their new trucks, the Tundra and Tacoma. There was no need for new engines as their truck drivers loved the old engines. The rest of their vehicles will continue to sell and be in short supply as usual. It is just their p/u trucks that they really screwed up on.
In my opinion Toyota; the original issue new vehicle is stellar. We have an older model Toyota Highlander with a 3rd row seat and have seen new Toyota Highlander's, which at first impression we thought it was a RAV 4, so much smaller!
These engines in the recall were all made in Alabama, USA. They also make the Tacoma engines there.
Record profits, record horse manure
Gotta agree with Zach on the distributor contract issue. Material breach of the contract usually allows for dissolution of the contract, although every state’s law may vary. And I agree with Zach that the auto maker can absolutely take steps to rein in the distributor for actions that devalue the brand in the public’s eye such as adding 5-10% of add ons that the customer did not request. I have been searching for a Toyota Highlander for months. The recalls on them are ridiculous per Consumer Reports and the reliability has dropped. But the prices remain way too high.
We just bought a 2023 Tundra and just missed that time window of recall for the engines. Thankfully it’s running great!!
All these companies have to cheat because the standards are too aggressive and difficult to hit.
Did you actually read that before you sent it?!
Is it possible the issue is oil maintenance schedule being 10k out? I'm swapping mine at 1k on new engine and then every 5k. I don't have a new tundra.
Bought in 2003 V8 Sport (Traded my Corvette) $40+k at the time, currently 150k miles and still ticking (new AC/Master cylinder/control module and brake calipers the dealership denied where faulty a month before warranty ran out. Love it but can’t find a current quality comparable vehicle to replace it!
From what I've seen the 2024 Tundras are having the same engine problems.
Our first car in this country was a Toyota Corolla, two months after purchase (brand new) it started having electrical problems. We got rid of it and got a Honda Civic instead, to this date we only purchase Honda/Acura brand.
Bought a 2nd gen 2018 Tundra Limited recently. As many people were telling me I should get a new one, I’m glad I didn’t. I didn’t like the new body style and didn’t trust a v6 twin turbo engine in a full size truck long before the issues showed up. Anyone with experience in turbo driven engines knows 10,000 mile oil changes is a big no no. If anything, change the oil sooner. Why Toyota would even suggest such a move on a twin turbo is ludicrous and shows the lack of QC in their products today.
Yaaaay im glad u didn't say camry.. lol.... I think I got a good deal on 2025 camry.. did alot of ur advice.. even got build price and for 250 more got over 1200 in accessories thrown in on a camry that just came out and dealers are waitng for
Ray, from rotting frames on tundras to leaking cam seals on the 4.6 and5.7,s for years
The crappy Tacoma will bury Toyota,
I am Toyota loyal but not so much anymore
100% right fellas on Toyota. Second car bought last 18 months traded Toyota because could not purchase one. Had Enough.
Direct Sales! Distributors and Dealers are ruining the manufacturers reputation and bloats cost. Its the dealer lobby with legislators in their pocket that is choking the consumer not the contracts.
Ethical direct sales could be nice, but not sure how that would come to pass. Surely not Tesla.
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2024 Yodagate. Another auto maker going down. Will they pass ford on the amount of recalls?
Definitely not
@@HH-le1viha ha, I wouldn’t be so sure.
@@georgeburns7251 find me one year Ford had less recalls than Toyota. I'll wait
My Toyota got 2 million Miles and never changed oil or brakes, no washer fluid. Original gas from when I got it to. Lmao. 😂
Winner, winner chicken dinner!!! You absolutely made me laugh out loud. Thanks so much for that. All the best, Ray
and yet the specials roll on, 2000 cash back, 48 mo zero percent on Tundra capstone hybrid
They need to 10x that discount
Look at the 2019-2021 Rav4, these idiots in Japan decided to drill holes into the roofs of these cars for the roof rail and use paper thin gaskets that dry out and fail PLUS use plastic clips to hold that rail in place at the A & C pillars. In 2022 They go back to the correct way to install them with proper seals for the bolts that go thru the roofs.
Money, Money, Money Its all companies care about, short term, not long term. much like back in the day with Ford and the Pinto, they new the problem was deadly, but they figured law suites were cheaper then a redesign .
. . . "Chauncey Ranch," Sty Eye? In the 60's my Dad's buddy, Mr Hillstrom, worked for Tom Chauncey at KOOL Channel 10 in Phoenix, one of the only 3 TV stations in town. Mr Hillstrom had done such a good job that Mr. Chauncey gifted him a brand new Pontiac Catalina convertible, likely purchased from Ev Mecham Pontiac whose owner later became the much media-abused governor of Arizona.
I looked at a 2023 f150 that was originally around 60k, they want 48k for it. Has around 1000 miles on it because it was like a courtesy vehicle. Don't know if I have any wiggle room on the price but %0 for 48 months because it's a 23 doesn't seem like a bad deal.
$48,000 average price of a car in the USA according to Kelly Blue book. In this economy how can anyone afford to buy new? I have a Subaru Forester that's paid off and even if I could afford a Toyota I would not buy. What's your opinion on an alternative quality auto company?
I bought a car with 700 miles in it from a dealer in California, they said they had to title it as a used car sale with just 700 miles and never titled to anyone before me
I simply don’t understand why the federal trade commission doesn’t regulate car sales more strictly. I used to sell preneed funeral and every little charge had to be presented to everyone to know exactly what they were paying for if we didn’t present them with a price sheet when they stepped foot Into our funeral home, wecould be fined. People have been getting screwed by car dealerships in manufacturers for 100 years now.
No such thing as a contract in perpetuity. Anything can be changed. There may be time factors tho.
You guys have such good vibes... and I don't even really watch car videos. Don't ever change.
Toyota has had issues in the past. They have been pretty “nimble” at making sure the problems get fixed. They do have some bad dealers, and twice in my 30 years of buying Toyota, I’ve done my compliance run around catching them, so they don’t have to explain to corporate, they then jump through my hoops. Always buy the last year of a model run, as they get the kinks out. I’m so in love with my 2002 Tundra Limited, only maintenance and tires. My very good dealer in Missouri tries to buy it every time they service it. Knew I was going to keep it, very hard to find the Limited with cloth, there was 1 on the lot at the Julyathon in 2002. Paid $28,000 with bedliner, running boards and Michelins added. Felt like a lot at the time, but I love it’s been reliable and paid in full for 2 decades!
I was thinking of buying a RAV4 but I am not sure now!!!
My 2024 Land Cruiser First Edition is on a 56 day “quality control hold.” Nothing but crickets from the dealer. The vehicle arrived back in mid May. Very disappointing.
Agree with Zach. When huge money is on the line, agreements are often altered. Banks, corporations, Bankruptcy laws, etc are routinely changed in a crisis.
According to a Japanese automotive critic, Toyota submitted test results under more stringent conditions than those required by the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (MLIT). For instance, in a rear-end crash test to check for fuel leaks, Toyota provided results from a test involving a car weighing 1,800 kilograms, rather than the 1,100 kilograms mandated by the government. However, since these conditions did not align with MLIT's standards, the ministry reportedly deemed this action to be improper.
Appreciate the heads up on the Tundra. Man, who would have thought Toyota with quality control issues.
Post Covid vehicles are developing into a major issue.
Toyota has the best supplier relations in the industry, but they too were in a parts crunch from 1st quarter 2020 into earl;y 2022.
From microchips through seat leathers, mfg's were forced into a worldwide search for components.
Quality absolutely dropped on many of these components.
This situation will go on for many years to come.
Buy a 2020 model as they were built just prior to the covid lockdown.
Anything built by Feb-Mar 2020 should be ok.
Caredge recommends Spark Toyota in SC. They add thousands to all their car prices.
Can you guys explain to me how this recall is different than the one issued on truck frames or on the 4.6 engine back in 2010? Those vehicles are now looked upon as benchmarks for reliability.
Toyota is very disappointing right now. I wanted to replace my 1794 but they have not only downsized the engine but what they are using is junk.
How many miles on a 1794? 😮
@@Truth2240 around 63k 2018 model
The debris in the engine is the lamest excuse ever, still that made them
Look terrible bad if things other than shiny walls and perfect machinery is involved. More than meets the eyes for sure.
So basically vehicle models that aren’t sold is the us. Something we shouldn’t worry about.
Now if we’re seeing the 4Runner or any other Toyota and Lexus modes that are being shipped THEN I think we should be worried about
A dealer told me the window sticker says suggested retail price So they can do what they want with no recourse
A Toyota Party may, at its option, for any or no reason, immediately terminate all or any part of any Contract Document by giving notice to Supplier; or (b) terminate the Agreement by giving not less than six months’ prior notice to Supplier. 6.9.2 By Supplier for Convenience.
Bought my 2nd Toyota last week. 2024 Rav4 Adventure, other is a 2022 Corolla hatchback (paid off). Hopefully they last a long time.
I’ve said it several times, Toyotas quality is perceived not necessarily fact. People still regurgitate that same old trope. When you check reliability ratings they’re not always better and even worse in some cases when comparing models. CR, Edmunds, JD etc
Then they’ll do the same with brands like Hyundai/Kia. That they’re the same company from the 80s and early 90s when they’re not. Even when certain models beat both Toyota and Honda in reliability/quality tests.
I hear it now, but their engine recall… yeah, what about Hondas engine recall for the 1.5T? Big problems when it first came to market.
I'll take CR but JD Power is a sham, most of their awards are bought
Why does Toyota need a distributor? If they did it direct it would result in more competitive pricing.
Enjoy your content very much, also enjoy the short stories from the past.
In the past couple years, I dealt with many dealers for myself and my friends. By far, Toyota dealers were the worst. They don't respect the customer and they always tried to force us to buy an overpriced car with so many crap games. In one case in Dallas, they kept us in the dealership from 5 pm to 11 pm, pushing us to lease a Base Camry for 580$ with 5000$ down. When we changed our mind and left, they kept the 5000$ for 5 months until we got it back by claiming through the bank. I really don't want to go to a Toyota dealership anymore. Doesn't matter how good their cars are.
Thanks Ray & Zach for keeping me inform like no other, when it is about my Taco.
The EPA (whatever environmental term it is for other countries) should test like Consumer Reports. Show up at a random stealership & buy the vehicle.
My 2024 1794 tundra runs ruff the turbos are slow to spool up on time. The engi ne has like stalled. Going from a stop to sixty almost t boned twice with this default. Im at 3900 miles. Paid 74k for my truck. Im pissed already getting cold sholder
Toyota has never been spotless. They have a long career in using ad dollars and Japanese Government clout to bury bad news and bad acting. Up to now people were willing to look the other way because of Toyota’s reputation for reliability. Now that reliability is an issue itself, people are now looking closer at longstanding bad stuff Toyota has been doing for awhile now.
Make no mistake, this is a design issue, not a machining debris issue. If it was a debris issue, it wouldn't be affecting both American & Japan built engines, nor would it be an issue for 2.5 years. There are both 2024 Tundra & Lexus that are failing in exactly the same way.