What If Dale Jr. Stayed At DEI?
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- The breakup of Dale Jr. and the family owned team of Dale Earnhardt Incorporated was the most publicized free agent fight in NASCAR history. Earnhardt eventually went to Hendrick Motorsports but what if it didn’t happen? What if Dale Jr. and Teresa Earnhardt managed to work things out and keep Junior at DEI?
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If Dale stayed, Teresa Earnhardt still be here and would be hated more than Brian France... Lol
DennyDelivers wouldn’t they be equally hated?
To be honest I picture Dale Earnhardt Jr would run the team after his retirement
She is hated more than Brian France
@@corwintipper7317 He probably would merge DEI with JRM
@@corwintipper7317 I believe, if he had been able to gain majority ownership, Dale would have been able to buy her out completely after a few years.
Even if NASCAR steals your idea, this will still the better one.
If Dale jr stad with dei Joey Logano wood be in the cup siris in the 88 car brad k will be in the 20 car Paul will be in the 9 car tx will be in the 15 Jamie McMurray will be in the 56 Aston dilin will be in the 1 car kl will be in the 3 the 19 driver will be alix ✌
Cassidy Mickle you good???? Or are you too young
@@cassidymickle8152 stay gold, ponyboy
they did with the Kyle Busch staying at hendrick a few weeks ago, did anyone else see that?
@@lilicewall4343 i am old enough to understand the "Ponyboy" reference. Nice one
In one week, we're going to see this same video scenario, only difference being that it'll be on NASCAR's channel
He would’ve stayed if Dale Sr. was still alive.
@@mclovin2155 go check out griffdawgs what if Dale sr was still alive series
Well duh.
Nepotism at its finest.
DEI would be one of the top teams in NASCAR and Jr would have at least one title to his name.
I think we all know that. Dale Sr once stated that Teresa was his philosophical lawyer, in other words she was his enforcer. With Sr, gone there was no one with enough people skills and racing knowledge to make the operation run smooth unless she was willing to step down and like Kelly run it and Kelly would've been WAY better because she prefers to look after people like she tries to look after Junior. She is very awesome. Teresa sadly was thrown into a position that was not meant for her talents. Kelley should've been running DEI. However the spirit of DEI lives on with Junior and Kelley and that's what matters.
“The team would also become a top of the line organization to the level of teams as Penske, Gibbs, and Hendrick.”
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Kevin Harvick never would've received sponsorship from Budweiser when he was with rcr, and stewart haas would not receive consistent sponsorship from anheuser busch.
Budweiser doesn't go to RCR, and then SHR with Harvick. Danica doesn't go to SHR, nor does Go Daddy. Would SHR still be a top-of-the-line team? No Harvick, no sponsor for a third car (unless Haas pulls the trigger early and has a self-sponsored team), things are different
He was saying this when I read this
not in 2021 lol
how u feeling now
1 week Later,
Nascar uploads: What if Dale Jr stays at DEI
Imagine Chase, Byron, and Bowman driving for DEI.
If Jr Remained at DEI & His Father never Passed away at Daytona,
I believe Dale would’ve Won at least 60 Races in the Cup Series and gotten a Few Championships, with his Fathers Guidance & Knowledge.
Plus…seeing that Red Budweiser #8 on the Track was a Thing of Beauty. It fit JR Perfectly, it was as Iconic as Jeff Gordon in the 24
Once he made the Jump to a New Brand with a New Number under Hendrick….
Things just weren’t the Same.
I think Jr would succeed a lot more than he did in Hendrick. It would be so cool to see what DEI would be in the present day
I'm waiting until NASCAR steals this idea.
Also the thumbnail is cursed and amazing at the same time
Seriously that 8 on the door is oddly large and creeping me out for some reason lol
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Because the Dale Sr. death.
One of the biggest what ifs in NASCAR History. Kenseth and Keselowski at DEI would’ve been interesting. 2 former champions racing for the win week in and week out. They might’ve gotten more championship’s. Would’ve been interesting.
If Jr never left DEI, then the Clint Bowyer spin gate would've never happened
@Elite Soulfly ...
Witch probably wouldn’t of let to the championship format they have now
What if Steve Park didn't get injured would be a good addition to this story by you
What if Mike Skinner won a points race?
What if Richard petty and dale sr weren’t hoes?
@@kylebuschhasover200winsinn5 Nani?
What JR Motorsports went cup racing at a 4 car team while he was still driving for DEI? He would have the biggest alliance in history. Nothing in the rules saying you can't own two organizations. Just 4 cars per organization.
What if Danica Patrick stayed in IndyCar
Ok... that car in the thumbnail is 🔥🔥🔥
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I seriously think that you look at the success JR Motorsports has and that’s proof of how well it would’ve gone with him as the leader of the company. I had a feeling that DEI was in trouble after the 2004 season and the crew swap with the 8 and 15. That was the beginning of the end and the hiring of Max Siegel was also a major problem for the team. Dale Jr would’ve made sure that the team was something his father would’ve been proud of. It was ashamed that a team with that making of being a powerful team like a Gibbs and Hendrick didn’t reach full potential. The greed of one person tore down the years of hard work by Dale Sr.
The only reason jr Motorsport is successful is because of Kelly Earnhardt. Dale jr will even tell you that. That woman is a shrewd business woman!
I think Jeffery Earnhardt would far more successful and be apart of DEI in this timeline.
Meh. He didn't do so hot in a Gibb's ride so idk
Jeffery said that he could call Dale for a ride at any time but he wanted to prove that he could get the ride based on talent alone
Jeffrey raced for DEI in K&N. He pissed his opportunity away.
@@dadbodii well apparently his talent isn't good enough for any good ride's cause he straight up sucks he's basically the male version of Danica Patrick
1:27 Almirola looks a whole lot like James Holzhauer in that shot
I have thought about this as well, if Dale Sr had not died or Dale Jr had taken control of DEI... Hopefully in the future DEI and RCR would become one team.
They both shared aero with Andy Petree plus an engine program in Earnhardt Childress Racing Engines.
If Dale Jr stayed at DEI, he would've had another championship run like in 2004, and maybe score a championship.
He was the best preformer in DEI equipment ever. That includes Mark Martin and Martin Truex Jr. That stuff just wasn't good enough to win titles.
Tim52581 don’t forget that Mark was the points leader in 2007 when he stepped aside for Aric.
@@JacobHeadMusic he also couldn't win and then crushed it at Hendricks
@@Tim52581 by time Mark joined DEI was practically dead
@@MJForever1999 he was there literally the season after Jr..
Kyle Busch wasn't the weakest link at HMS, that was Casey Mears. So Kyle Busch would have still left even if Dale Jr didn't pick HMS.
Casey Mears was at Hendrick Motorsports because Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson liked him, Jimmie Johnson and Casey Mears had been friends since they were kids, plus Rick Hendrick was getting sick of Kyle's antics and the Texas spring race in 2007 was what lost him his Hendrick ride.
Jr was the driver that brought DEI to relevance along with Michael Waltrip, Steve Park, and MTJ. It's known that DEI had plate cars that can win mostly at Daytona/Talladega back in the early 2000's(2001-2004)
Honestly knowing what I know now about the internals at DEI, I think if Dale Jr. would have improved DEI greatly. His name alone would have kept sponsor dollars coming in, his eye for talent would have kept top drivers in the house, they would have definitely had more of a presence from an owners standpoint at the track and would have found what was lacking in the motor shop. Honestly there were too many changes in the organization from 2006 on for them to stay competitive. One thing I think you glossed over is I think Mark Martin would have still come to DEI first as a part timer and eventually full time and maybe even got a championship that always eluded him.
Even though the COT wasn’t popular, I loved the way the 8 looked in it. I thought that car looked awesome.
Jaret doesn’t miss!!
I like this interesting hypothetical.
However, I think Jr. leaving DEI was kind of inevitable because of his growing rift with Teresa Earnhardt.
This also causes a question of why JR Motrosports exists? Did Jr. always want to form a race team, or did he form his own team so he had a place to go after he left DEI?
Great video!!!!! I think the way you laid things out was very realistic considering it’s a fantasy premise. Keep up the great work! Love the channel!
Worst part about jr leaving DEI was all of us losing the #8 Budweiser Chevy a beautiful and iconic ride that vanished over night. What a shame. I would say the red 8 was almost as iconic as the black #3
Very well made video. I personally believe JR would have more wins had he stayed with DEI after 2007 if JR had more responsibility and ownership stake at DEI.
Dale Jr. staying with DEI would've also affected Richard Childress Racing. The strengthening of the ECR engine program would make Kevin Harvick a more competitive driver in RCR, virtually eliminating his need to jump to Stewart-Haas Racing.
I still feel that Teresa sabotaged his engines in 2007. The visible frustration he had after Richmond when the engine blew with 15 to go, is something I still remember vividly.
How did she do that
Plus like he said it wasn't just Dale Jr that had engine trouble in 2007. Truex and Menard did as well. Not to the same extent as Dale but still, they had that as well.
You better make these videos faster than NASCAR can lol
At the time, I did not think that Junior was ready for a Cup Ownership role. Seeing what he has done in the Busch series and I feel if JRM moved to Cup, they would be a powerhouse. If he stayed and Teresa was not an absentee owner, Junior would have been more of a powerhouse than he was at HMS. On one hand though, he did have to go through some maturity issue at Hendrick. It took Letarte to square him away. He could have easily been a powerhouse at Hendrick. What If? But as the GREAT Dale Earnhadt once said "if's don't win championships"!
"Besides from danica" THAT WAS A VIOLATION AND I LOVED IT
Hey The Iceberg, what about a video of what if.... dale Jr joined RCR!!!! Look at the success he had in the busch (xfinity) series! Would love to see it! Kinda feel like he would have had equal success
I grew up watching the sport and of Jr was my absolute favorite. I think it would have been an absolute disaster for him if he would have stayed at DEI just for the fact Teresa Earnhardt didn't know what she was doing. Now all of this would have been completely different if we didn't lose the intimidator. I feel like Jr would have easily broke 30 wins and might have won at least 1 championship.
That would've been the single WORST decision of Jr's career, had he stayed with that witch, as she systematically destroyed DEI. If she would've stepped aside and allowed REAL men to run that organization........that would be a different story altogether. DEI already had the super speedways stitched up. All they needed was to perfect their short & mid track programs. .......and she blew the whole thing to hell.
I don't know about a lot of this hypothetical stuff, but I will say it would heavily alter many things. No Budweiser sponsorship for Kahne in the #9 from 2008-2010, and no Budweiser sponsorship for Kevin Harvick. Additionally, Rick Hendrick played a massive role in the establishment of JRM becoming a power house team in the Xfinity Series, I don't know if they would've seen Keselowski or Byron at all. You also have to look at RCR, I don't think much would've changed Harvick's decision and it's quite clear that when he left, RCR was relegated to a mid pack team. So I'd say that Mark Martin would've likely landed a ride somewhere decent regardless. I could go on forever but I'll just throw those things out there.
If he had of stayed, instead of him having to adjust to the cars they gave him for race day, it would of been the other drivers having to adjust to the cars they were given on race day, based on car setup to his setup preferences. The company would still be alive and well if his stepmom would of handed him the keys to the company instead of being forced to merge with another team and her disappearing from the sport. The past decade to a decade and a half would of been entirely different if Dale Jr had of staid with DEI. He probably would be still racing today.
Dale could’ve been Vibin’ in the Ritz car
I feel like Jr would've had more wins and maybe not as long as a winless streak or maybe not one at all because he would've been the top dog and gotten back on good grounds with the Eurys and if he was able to keep out of concussion trouble might have gotten a championship. Matt Kenseth would probably not have the 2013 season he had in real life but probably wouldn't of retired at the end of 2017 either as long as he had sponsorship and would probably get one or two wins a season. Oh and DEI would maybe have a Hendrick alliance like SHR did in order to improve their performance.
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My question. How is Harvick impacted since he took up the Budweiser banner most notably after Jr
I posit that DEI would have made major plays to get Chase Elliot in their stable, given the relationship that Bill and Dale Sr. had off the track. Plus, being able to drag in Bill Elliot in an advisory role, given his wealth of prior knowledge, would have been quite a benefit to the team, its crews, and its drivers
I still love DEI and will forever 🏁🏁🏁🇺🇸
One would also have to also wonder that with 3 or 4 full seasons in Xfinity if maybe Danice would have been better. As compared to 2012 having been her only full season there.
What if Dale Earnhardt Sr. Didn’t die and Left RCR to move to Hendrick in 2002?
Highly doubtful that would have happened. Dale Sr. would have finished his career by around 2003 - 2005 with RCR.
He would retire in 2004 since the chase was made. Sr would of hated it
BOOM.....my mind just melted.
To be honest, I think with 1 more year of Xfinity under her belt, Danica could pull a rabbit out of her hat and get a win at one of her better tracks, but the planets would need to align for it to happen
So... Junior would’ve been at DEI for two more years at the very most in dwindling equipment. Unless you’re going the route of “What if Dale Jr. went to Ganassi?”
Can you please do a Missing Rings video on Kevin Harvick in 2016. People talk about how good he’s been with Stewart-Haas so why not remind people of one of his downpoints. Winning races in the regular season, won in the first two rounds in the playoffs, only to collapse with the problems not really being his fault. Also Kyle Busch in 2016, Jimmie Johnson in 2012 and Dale Earnhardt in 2000 could be interesting topics for Missing Rings episodes.
That thumbnail is fucking CLEAN.
My friend Ron Hornaday Jr. might have stuck around with dei a tad more. Maybe even running in the cup series with actual competitive equipment.
*edit: also the ol' Hendrick 25 would be around every week*
Good job Iceberg, I wish those renditions of Budweiser 8 cars you did actually happened...
Your whole premise assumes that Teresa would have given Dale Jr more control, which she would not do. All this because of one accident on the last corner on the last lap of the Daytona 500. DEI would only exist today if that never happened. Dale Jr leaving in 2007 was a forgone conclusion after that point.
since Kyle Busch stays at Hendrick J.J Yeley says at JGR and still struggles in cup but wins some races in the busch series and win the 2008 busch championship and Hall of fam keeps Tony Raines and they win a race and become a mid field team
Well done, I've also heard a rumor that nascar is stealing your vids? shame on them. Your content is amazing.
What if Ryan Newman stayed at Penske, he would have been a Nascar champion. That's as realistic as this video
Good links and so much would have happened, but it's tough to tell that him staying would have lead to all those things perfectly aligning. But good video👍🏾
Thumbnail hits hard
Pretty wild speculations
If DEI was still around, harvick wouldn't have Busch/Budweiser as a sponsor.
Jr and keslowski as teammates at plate tracks would be tough
Iceberg: *uploads another “What If” Dale Jr video*
Everyone: ah shit, here we go again🍿
One more Dale Jr. Video
#jrNation
He would win a series championship
Awesome video! In my boredom I came up with an entire career for Cole trickle if he were a real person once.
Mark Martin without a job? Never.
Jr and Stepmom hated each other, and DEI would have never been what it was without Dale at the helm. Jr was just a kid back then and was not ready to run the show even with his sister's help. If Jr was given everything back then he would have just slowly run it in the ground like stepmom did at warp speed. Dale didnt even drive for his own shop and knew it was coming along but was not ready for prime time yet. He and all the clout he brought was the force that was driving it. After he passed the rest could have come together and all shouldered the burden together and maybe DEI would have survived but they did not. As for thriving, the odds were against it even if they did.
Ngl that 2014 Harvick chase scheme with the 8 looks dope
If it was handed down to Kelly and Dale JR like he intended. She changed the will , she knew it kids knew it fans knew it nuff said
I would love to see a what if Dale Sr had lived video on this channel.
Love the video bud. Maybe do one on if rusty wallace never retired too please. Thank you
I think, if Jr stayed, it would've still been a downhill slope. To where, he'd end up (or almost have), like his nephew Jeffery Earnhardt today, until Jr decides to jump ship. Though, at such a time, Hendrick would possibly already be full with: Johnson, Gordon, Kyle Busch, and a retiring Mark Martin, but Brad K. is already signed to replace him. So, Jr then looks around for another Chevy team, which could be Chip Ganassi after they make the switch from Dodge to Chevy, where he could drive either a 41 or 42 or possibly a new number or 88.
But, if not Chip, then I can see Jr going to the Xfinity series with HMS, and racing to help develop drivers, while also winning races or titles for Mr.H.
I honestly would have loved if Dale jr had stayed with DEI and kept it competitive. All the other what if possibilites are a bit farfetched, but I guess plausible.
Dale did the right thing. DEI wouldn’t have had the money to build winning cars. Plus the drivers a the new location helped him. Great move.
I absolutely love the idea of brad driving from junior. That would be amazing
If Jr stayed at DEI, Kyle Busch would’ve stayed at Hendrick which he would probably not have the level of success he has today. Also, Martin Truex would probably not have been sent on the path to the 2017 championship.
I would say that Chase Elliott would be at DEI instead of William Byron.
So what would Penske look like in this time line? Logano was brought over due to Keselowski, and Blaney was BKR driver? Alsi does Harvick still move to SHR. HONESTLY in your time line a lot would change.
Hey Iceberg, my buds & I were discussing how J.D. McDuffie was/is the greatest NASCAR driver to have never won a race. But a thought flew in my head & I spat it out. We were all left a bit baffled & yet intrigued. So, Iceberg,
Had Paul Menard never won at Brickyard... would he be the Greatest Nascar driver to have Never won a race?
so what happened to the mark martin interview? you never answered that.
Honestly it’s a good thing he went to Hendrick. As cool as we all think it would have been for Dale Jr to drive for DEI his whole career, there was no leader there with Sr. being gone. Jr could not have run that program like he does JR Motorsports now because he gained so much knowledge and experience being with Rick Hendrick. He needed that leader to guide him the right direction, and DEI could have only sustained their success had Dale Sr. lived.
Teresa proved she doesn't give a shit about Dale Sr's legacy only his fortune by forcing his sons and daughter out of DEI. Happy to see how Dale Jr. and Kelly have turned Jr. Motorsports into the premier Xfinity organization for Chevy drivers.
Or what about, Jr leaves DEI and drives the Childers 3 car cementing the Earnhardt dynasty over the 3 car
Where does the 88 go now that it’s not being used by Hendrick?
The thumbnail is great
I have to disagree with you, Kyle Busch would still have gone to Gibbs if Jr stayed at DEI. Kyle was on his way out the door before Jr announced he was leaving DEI, so I don’t think Jr staying would have changed Kyle’s situation.
Bro. Thinking about this, would Tony still leave JGR to create SHR?? Or would he stick it out at Gibbs?
He would have stayed throughout all the mergers and Jamie McMurray probably wouldn't have driven for Ganassi after 2013 because Larson would have been chosen over him for the 1 car.
I agree mostly with you but with Matt kenseth coming over I think the team would have switched to Ford and aligned with roush and it would have also saved roush just my opinion
Ok then, how about if Jr. Went to Gibbs? Cause when Gibbs was on his podcast they mentioned that if Dan Snyder offered ANY of the Washington Football Team ownership, Jr. Was at Gibbs
How about what if Kyle Busch went to JGR in 2004/2005
You should make a video about what if he went to joe Gibbs? JGR offered him a big sum of money to come race
Who made that thumbnail? 😍😍 kinda reminds me of Dale Jr bud ride in 2004
I think Jr also would've brought Smoke to the team when he left Gibbs after 2008
It's kind of interesting to think about. I wonder if he stayed with them how much longer they would've been around
it would have probably gone under a year or two later. Best case scenario would be Stewart taking it over instead and getting the hendrick alliance to prop it up. That would also be the only way I see Jr netting more wins in his career. Oddly enough, Brad might actually end up at Hendrick in that scenario with Mark Martin possibly not even racing full time(I guess he could end up at Gibbs instead of Kenseth?).
Maybe the baseball team the “intimidators” would still be around.
It’s amazing that she sued them for that rather than be honoured by it.
The thing is if Brad never goes to Penske then Penske would only have the success of Joey
I think that if Dale Jr had not leaved DEI that he and Teresa Earnhardt would have gotten in a very large argument over operations and how things would operate at DEI and that Jr and that it would show on Jr's performance. After a while Jr would take legal action against his mother Teresa and try to get total control of the company and cut her of any control of the organization. Once that happens I think DEI would still be somewhat in trouble. Not in the sense that Jr could not run the company but that I think Teresa would to and try to start her own team to try and out due his son. See I am not surprised were DEI is today. It is sad to see that building today and how it just sits there. I also question if Richard Childress would have perhaps merged or Jr would have gone to him to let him take some control of DEI which I think would have made DEI a powerhouse. But I think Teresa would not stop her entire push to get total control back and try to do anything she can to be in control and screw up all of the DEI teams. I wish Jr. Would try to take over DEI today and cut Teresa out totally. But who knows would happen. All I know is If Dale Earnhardt saw the status of DEI today he would be beyond angry.
This is a good scenario
Also Jaret, how were you able to do that Thumbnail of Dale Jr's #8 on Kevin Harvick's 2015 Budweiser car?? Just curious
I have an app on my phone called Superimpose that lets me layer and edit pictures and thumbnails like these.