What If Kevin Harvick NEVER Went To SHR?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- What if Kevin Harvick never went to SHR? What if he instead stayed at RCR, or found a path to Hendrick Motorsports? Today we look into these paths and see what directions that Kevin Harvick's could have gone. With these simple questions there are almost more questions and doors opened than there are closed and answered. It isn't just Kevin Harvick that has their careers changed with this to. Drivers like Ryan Newman, Alex Bowman, Jeff Gordon, Matt Kenseth and so many more that look at a different timeline. So let's get into it...
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How do you think Kevin Harvick’s career looks if he doesn’t go to SHR?
He would Still be the legend
Probably wouldn't of gotten that championship and have that great 2020 season
Do one on Kenny Irwin Jr.
I think it would’ve taken an Ownership Stake at RCR when he retired to convince him to stay.
He probably would have won a couple championships with Richard Childress racing.
The question really comes down to whether or not Harvick’s consistency would be enough with RCR being stuck in time for more than half a decade.
Or he would have went to indycars.
Man that would change the course of history, hope he does good the last few races…
I’d love to see him spoil the show and win at Phoenix.
Harvick, the last full-time driver to start a "Winston Cup" race.
What is Kevin Got put into a dream team scenario like the 48 car in 2002? If the previously (and postly) unaccomplished Johnson did what he did with Knaus and Hendrick's money, imagine what Harvick could have done.
Not as well as Jimmie
@@CFWolfgang We don't really know that and we will never know. Harvick can take a 20-25th place car and get a top 10 or even a top 5. We all know Harvick is one of the greatest drivers ever. Harvick never had equipment as godly good as Jimmie Johnson.
@@CFWolfganghe beat Jimmie in lesser equipment his whole career.
@@CFWolfgangjj is overrated. Harvick is easily better
I loved this video man, a video i’d love to see is where you have maybe Logano never leave JGR for Penske? I’d think that would be a fun twist to this!
Would love to have seen him in Hendrick or Gibbs equipment after leaving RCR. Especially to finish out his career, these past few years of him driving SHR dump trucks have been brutal.
Hendrick would have been a no-go for Harvick, considering that he and Dale Jr weren't on speaking terms in the 2010s after throwing comments at each other
@@S.K.R.E.Inc. agreed however they have patched things up and both are part of the Cars Tour ownership team along with Jeff Burton.
SHR was HMS equipment when they ran Chevys, only thing missing was Hendricks influence and hiring power.
@@WastdTrashPanda that is true the deal with Gene Haas was well before Stewart joined the team
@@S.K.R.E.Inc.what are you talking about? SHR was a Hendrick satellite team when Harvick was there and the dale jr incident happened in 2017. They only didn’t speak from 2017-2020.
I would like to say the 39 would've definitely been rebranded to the 4, because that's the number Tony Stewart always wanted. But he couldn't, so he got 39. 3.9, next would be 4. McClure was still holding onto the number by the time Stewart was starting up his team. But of course when Ryan Newman left the 39, obviously the 4 was available. So it would've been rebranded anyways.
39 was Newman’s number when he ran sprint cars. That’s why they used it at SHR, and when he was at Penske and he ran Xfinity races.
@@arwyss you are correct and i was wrong, but still was supposed to be 4
What makes this timeline crazy to think about is when you consider there were rumors back in 2015 of Harvick going to Hendrick to replace Kasey Kahne.
Also, the thought of Harvick in the 48 car kinda sounds cursed tbh
SHR might not even exist without Harvick
LOL yaaa, ya think?
@@mitchbrown6652 yes I think
I think it would have made the 29 more iconic, not that it isn't already.
Yeah and still wins the championship in 2014.
Anyone else want a flow chart of these driver moves and stuff
Yes
Rcr and shr are b tear teams. Harvick would have about 20 more wins added to his 60 and have at least 3 championships if he were with either HMS or JGR. He definitely deserves more than 1 championship in his career.
If the old points system was used, he would have been an Intimidator 1.5. A 5-time champion in the 29, taking RCR to heights not seen since 2000. I feel he would eventually go to SHR regardless, but at the end of the 2010s, taking the 1st championship for his new team in 2020. Remember, he and Dale Jr had some "choice words" to say about each other in the mid-10s, and that rift would have taken longer or have never healed at all, so a move to Hendrick would have been disastrous for him, as the world's most popular driver was in the same team as him. In an alternate 2023, he makes his final win at Talladega against Denny Hamlin, Kyle Busch, and in his one race per season, Dale Earnhardt Jr. It would have been the biggest fan noise since Jr in 2001, and Byron would have been docked points for the same issue that DQ'ed Harvick in the playoffs. Harvick would have retired in style, with a top 4 finish in the standings
Dale Jr is not the most popular driver in the world. If anything, its michael Schumacher or Lewis hamiliton. Remember. THE WORLD. And do you have the website or link that does the math and shows kevin being a 5 time champion if the points never changed? Because I have never heard that one before
SHR would likely be a mid-tier team after Tony Stewart & Kurt Busch retired if Kevin Harvick did not go over there. There is also an effect in F1 as Haas would not have the funds necessary to start that operation based on the success created by Kevin Harvick & Tony Stewart in NASCAR & instead Haas buys into an existing team like Williams or Racing Point as his way of getting into F1. If Haas bought into Racing Point, we likely would never see the Strolls in F1 along with the Aston Martin name, though the team would continue to run the Mercedes engines. Now if Haas bought into Williams, Ford would instantly replace Mercedes as the engine provider due to Haas's connections with Ford in NASCAR.
Harvick would've had half the wins he has right now if he stayed with RCR
If it were the Piston style points system, he would have had 5 championships (4 at RCR, 1 at SHR)
Or after 2013, he goes to indycars driving for the Andrettis
@@S.K.R.E.Inc.No,only 4 champoonships that too 3 with SHR and 1 with RCR, i dont know where you got that info about harvick winning 4 championships with rcr in winston format because thats bs
Not sure Harvick goes to the 88 in 2018, with Jr having such a big hand in having Bowman fill in for him in 2016 and taking over for him in 2018 in real life, I feel like even with Harvick available idk if they don’t go with Bowman. Harvick’s sponsor money wasn’t needed and Hendrick was moving in the younger direction at that point aside from Jimmie
I think taking into account Harvick and Stewart friendship Harvick would go to SHR in all timelines maybe with the excepyion of a timeline where they are not friends lol
Harvick almost left RCR in 2009 to go to SHR
These what if videos are tons of fun....But my god do they make my head hurt lol
Love these what-if scenario videos!
It's a horrible idea and I'm not liking it
What if spin gate never happen and if micheal waltrip racing never shutdown
The Newman side story got me in tears, why am I suffering MORE in that universe LOL
Stewart Haas would not be the same without Kevin Harvick
I really wonder what would have changed for Austin Dillon if he had Harvick alongside him until now. He's shown flashes that he could be a perennial 2nd tier competitor (what I label guys who win somewhat often and are a respectable but still an underdog playoffs pick) but he just can't seem to find the consistency on tracks outside of superspeedways. With someone like Harvick to mentor him, those few wins instead could be a total somewhere in the 20s. He could actually qualify decent consistently. Hell he might actually make the playoffs without a random superspeedway win to sneak in one of the last spots.
People who aren't against Dillon were happy when Busch was signed since he could mentor Dillon, but that could've been a reality if Harvick never left.
As a Jeff Gordon fan, didn’t even have to ward the video lol, 2014 would’ve been his year. The multiple times he finished 2nd to Harvick in the Chase, would’ve gotten more career wins as well. I do wonder though if he won the Championship in 2014 if he would’ve considered racing beyond 2015 or not?
I do remember that year... Him and Harvick were the two best cars that year and towards the beginning of the chase Gordon got screwed and had some issues but yea he had too much momentum imo to retire if he had won the Cup
Do this more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love these videos as the topic is super interesting. Examples would be
What if JGR got Clint Bowyer
What if Joey Logano went to CGR
What if Carl Edwards never retired
What if Erik Jones replaced Jimmie Johnson at Hendrick
What if SHR got Kyle Larson
There are so many to do.
Well, what would have happened if Michael McDowell won a championship in 2022 and moved to a new team for 2023?
Plot twist
When shr really struggles to find good drivers around late 2020-21-22 harvick will sign a 2-3 year contract and end his career there with 3 wins a piece each year and bowman will go to the now 5 car and Noah gragson will enter harvicks car / with a charter swap whatever number it being instead of berry and berry will end up beating hocever to the 77
Larson instead goes to shr also with the dirt ties with Stewart and he goes on a tear but with 7 wins instead of 10 maybe beating cole Custer for that 2021 ride
What if Bill Elliott never went to Junior Johnson in 1992?😊
What if Bill Elliott went to Hendrick in 1992?
he probably would never have started his own team with the 94 car and probably would have won a lot more races. There is something about both the Elliotts and the #9 car.
@@gothard5 The first move for Rick Hendrick to make was to release Schrader from the #25 for Bill to end up there.
@@iankhan4614A better move for Bill would probably be taking the Yates #28 in 1995. He'd probably have 70+ wins and three championships if that had happened.
That young man did a great job filling in for Earnhardt and he has a Cup Championship!!!! After decades of watching NASCAR I've seen a lot of drivers and not everyone has that ability!!!😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Do if Brad never left Penske
Tl;dr
2013 - Kevin Harvick signs a contract extension with RCR through 2016. Danica returns for 2014. Kurt Busch goes to the 39 and Newman spends two years with MWR’s 55 team.
2014 - Kevin Harvick does not win the Championship. Jeff Gordon completes the Drive for 5.
2015 - MTJ doesn’t make the final four. Newman to Petty.
2016 - Newman and Harvick sign a 1-year extension with Petty and RCR respectively.
2017 - The 29 car goes winless.
2018 - Harvick goes to Hendrick Motorsports in the 88. Alex Bowman does not go to Cup until 2023. Newman goes to the 29, renumbered to the 8.
2019 - Harvick wins the 2019 Championship. Jamie McMurray goes to the 39 for a year, replacing a departing Kurt Busch, who joins the Ganassi stable. Matt Kenseth returns to full-time racing with Roush in the 6, winning one last time.
2020 - The 39 is renumbered to the 41, with Cole Custer behind the wheel. Kenseth goes to the 17, switching with Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Jimmie Johnson, Ryan Newman, Matt Kenseth and Clint Bowyer all retire. Ross Chastain and Alex Bowman fill in for Larson after the “gamer word” incident with Ganassi. Harvick wins a 2nd, consecutive Championship.
2021 - Harvick signs a 1 year extension with HMS, now moving to the 48.
2022 - Kevin Harvick retires and gets one last win at Phoenix, reaching 10 wins at the track. 51 wins, 2 championships and an ungodly amount of success ensure he is a first ballot hall-of-famer. Keselowski moves to the 17. Chris Beuscher to the 6.
2023 - Josh Berry goes to HMS in the 48 car.
So, Harvick probably still has Rodney Childers. Rodney said he thought Kevin was originally recruiting him to be his CC at RCR, even met Richard. It’s not crazy to think they’d win a title at RCR.
I have a suggestion for the next driver what if video. "What if Joey Logano stayed with JGR?" Or "What if Matt Kenseth Stayed with RFK?" I dont think the logano scenario turns out well but im still curious to know what you think.
He doesn’t have the 8 win season in 18 and 9 win season in 20 with any other team
Had Harvick not joined SHR, Newman wouldn’t have left SHR either
What if SHR didnt change to Ford, Harvick only championship was with Hendrick engines and obv Chevy
Although in every format outside the playoffs he would’ve won 2020
Crazy that Kyle wouldn't win in 2019 if this happened..
considering the strength of toyota in 2019 I don't think any other manufacturer would bring the championship
Yeah I don’t think so. JGR was winning the championship in 2019 no matter what
I think Harvick not going to SHR means that he stays at RCR for the rest of his career. When Austin comes up to cup I don’t think he gets the 3 car because of the ties of the 29 has to the 3. Instead i think that Austin gets the 03 car while it’s the same number it’s a whole new history and legacy that can’t be ruined by him.
Do you think that Kevin Harvick would compete some in Xfinity Series races after he retires from Cup?
Request: What if Joey Logano never went to Penske
Sorry, I don’t see how Harvick wins the Championship in 2019 in this scenario. JGR is gonna be dominant no matter what car Harvick is in, and I don’t think the 88 has the speed to beat Kyle Busch and Truex
Why would you change Harvick’s number in his retirement year at Hendrick? That’s the one thing I don’t agree with. I don’t think that makes sense. I think he ran the 88 to the 48 when Josh Berry takes over in that timeline.
If Harvick stayed with RCR, he wouldn’t have been as successful. I think it was best that he left.
That was mainly because of a huge generational gap. Harvick quarreled a lot with the guys at RCR due to having different ways of doing things (they were all baby boomers, Harvick was only 25 at the time), one of the neutral people had to "keep the peace" between them throughout his tenure
@@S.K.R.E.Inc. that neutral guy being Todd Berrier.
change the 31 to the 3 and then change the 27 to the 31? why not just change the 27 to the 3 and leave the 31 alone?
What if Robert Yates Racing never shut down
He wouldn't be as successful
If KH would have left RCR in 2010 or 11 I am sure he would have gotten to 70 career wins.
Iceberg, not video related but I believe I heard this on Denny’s podcast. What are your thoughts on having 3 different winners for the final race (race winner, owners champion, season champion) is this a bad look for the sport?
Not iceberg (lol) but if this happens. I think it's nothing but positive outlook for the cup series. Shows how each is important, if this happened.
But just like when Jeff Gordon (finally) won Homestead and I think it was Harvick or Johnson winning the championship, all eyes were on the series champion.
So for me, it all comes down to how the network broadcasts it.
Hey Iceberg, What do you think Kyle Larson could've done if he doesnt get cancelled in 2020.
Stayed with CGR until they closed then go to the 1 for Trackhouse
Next: What if Kyle Larson never said the Pro Gamer word
@@johnhaas2523 I think he would've had become Suarez's teammate in the CGR - Trackhouse transition, maybe Hail Melon would've never happened.
So Suarez never gets the 41?
So if Harvick did go to HMS, does Chase still block him to let Larson Win Bristol? And by that token, does their feud continue and Chase still get dumped at the Roval?
Half of Harvick's career has been getting into feuds with the entire garage, that's not going to change in any timeline, lol!
Then he would have 67 wins with 2 championships.
He would’ve won a championship. eventually.
If Kevin Harvick stays with Team Chevy he wins more championship...
This is goofy. Its like saying, hey guys I have an imagination, wanna hear about it?
MTJ did make the final four in 2015