I’m happy buying my watches in the boutique, I really enjoy the experience it’s something special. Nothing like a box fresh watch and peeling the stickers off whether it’s Tudor, Omega or Rolex. Buying a second hand watch on the internet isn’t the same.
I’ve always bought my Tudors from the secondary market to protect me from such drops. I tend to have to wait for about a year after the launch of a new model to get the one that I want but thats an acceptable trade off for me
Actually price depreciation is the norm. Used products are supposed to sell cheaper than new products bought directly from the store. And I am totally agreeing with you. I always buy new, be it be cars, watches, electronic devices etc. Firstly because I am rich and secondary I just do not like buying used products when I can afford new products. And I never intend to sell what I bought.
The idea of buying a non limited edition watch on the secondary market for more than retail is revolting. The current Rolex practices are unsustainable. The younger generation that wanted to buy their first entry level Rolex to celebrate a milestone but were treated like garbage by a retail worker now have a sour taste in their mouth when they think of Rolex. Give it 10 years and those watches will be selling for a discount on the secondary market and ADs will be begging for customers.
I bought two Tudor watches for myself and one for my lady at the AD. The AD experience is always the best way to go. It has entertainment value. As you know, entertainment and ambiance is always a part of the cost. I am at the point where getting one at secondary market price is definitely a treat.
I sold my remaining Tudor watches in my collection: Pelagos 39 - purchased in Nov '22 for £3,500 (did receive a £250 gift voucher) sold in May '23 for £2,800 Pelagos FXD MN21 - purchased in Nov '21 for £2,920 and sold in Jan '24 for £2,800 So taking into consideration I purchased the P39 and got £250 off, that's a 15% drop. The FXD MN21, I also got off with only losing £100 over 24 months of ownership. Sold both to a dealer as I didn't want to risk selling it privately and running the risk of losing the watches through scams, etc.
Used in the UK. Tudor watches depreciate around £450.00p Sterling per year. The Pelagos sells at £4,320.00p today, a 2021 sells around £2,600 or less that’s a loss of around £573.00p per year.
There are steps you can take to mitigate that risk like going to a reputable dealer, using a credit card for he purchase, agreeing with the dealer upfront that they will take it back should it fail a 3rd party authentication then taking it to be authenticated.
I own approximately 50 watches from about $300- $20k nothing crazy , I’ve only ever bought maybe 3-4 in an authorized dealer , I don’t buy used because I’m a head case about scratches and damage I didn’t do . I also don’t care about building a relationship with some salesman who sees me as nothing more than an ATM ., I buy grey market . Best of both worlds I save a lot of money generally and, when prices get out of control I stop buying the pricey hard to get models . I don’t care about manufacturers warranty as I’ve never had a watch fail in the first 3-4 years anyway . And I could care less about resale as I’ve never sold a watch , just my opinion your mileage may vary
Im exactly the same other than I sell most of mine as I’m constantly chasing this elusive “two watch collection” 😄 I always buy in sales and grey market- have bought a couple times from AD but the experience is nonsense to me after doing it once. Yeah it was nice buying a Rolex from a boutique but the staff know less about watches than I do so the process is awkward as I have to listen to them tell me untruths. I got 20% off my Reverso duoface before the price hikes. The JLC boutique offered me nothing, watches of Switzerland offered me 3% off 😄
Great video. You have great tips to research prices. The type of watch tells alot about the person. I also think where you buy a watch does too. I love the chase for a qualty watch at a discount. I guess i am a cheapskate lol. Those who pay full retail like the experience and may be low risk. They could also be the types to buy a new house over an older one because they dont like renovation. Regardless I really appreciate your video content
Whats missing for me is the fact, that you dont calculate in how used the watch is in your statistics. Of course you can always buy a beat up one for less then a new one.
@@DadeMurphie to make it more clear to you. If you include all Watches from beat Up to new you will of course Drive the price down. Watches without Box and Papers and so on. You would Always have to compare new and unworn to AD. I Hope now you Could follow My explanation. Sorry Englisch is Not My First language so i May have Not written It clear enough for you
Just a few days ago I bought a BB54 for my local AD for $3,900 and it was quite happy to pay the retail price at the AD. I'm not sure if you're aware but there are many fakes of this already out, and buying it from an AD guarantees you're watch isn't going to be a fake, of course you can find out pretty quickly by looking at the movement, but who wants to hassle of dealing with that? Also I think it's a good idea to support the brick and mortar stores because they do provide a service. Not everybody should look to get the cheapest deal, sometimes supporting the AD is the right thing to do. And at 3,900 for the quality of this watch I'm feeling pretty good about it.
In November I bought Tudor GMT Rootbeer. I recently sold it and took a big hit. They offered me a used black bay ceramic for a good price. But I just couldn't come to terms on buying used. I know people are rough with their stuff. Plus there was paint missing on the teeth and crown. I'm pulling the trigger on the new one next week just for my piece of mind.
Buying new from AD’s you generally won’t get a discount. So you’re advocating buying pre owned, where the previous owner got bummed by a watch dealer so you can buy 15% below retail.. just buy the new watch, and when buying write it off. People who buy with price retention in mind shouldn’t be buying anything other than gold, silver or bonds, certainly not majority of watches.
You gave no reasoning to take the financial hit. "Just buy the new watch" why buy it at full price? You can even get never worn with the stickers still on them Tudors at a discount. Someone receives a new Tudor as a gift doesn't want it and sells it to a dealer who then sells it to you.
@@adriancox2786 why would you buy new theres plenty jewellers / watch dealers with retail shops that sell used mint condition watches at like 3/4 of new price. Theres absolutely no logic in what you’re saying excluding the name on the warranty card and getting a few nice smiles from the sales staff on purchase.
@@dennox1 I picked up the new Tudor coke gmt last weekend. Started off with a coffee & the sale then emerged. It was elective on their part. Had a glass of champagne, chatted for an hour and it was lovely. Buy it new. Enjoy it. Don’t feel guilty about spending on stuff you want to and can afford to. Miserable or swingeing aren’t places to dwell if you’ve a mean of avoiding it. Happy Christmas to me! They gift wrapped it & everything. Warm memories made
@@adriancox2786 you know if you enjoy that then no doubt you have worked hard and your enjoying spending your money so more power to you. We all have the things we like and things we want. For me even as a business owner (maybe because we had hard times a few years back). I just need to get a deal and not pay retail or near retail. Anyway enjoy ☺️.
Went in to an AD for a tudor rootbeer, asked for a discount and got told off. They told me that it's Tudor's policy is that you can't discount them. Then they started packing up the exhibition model for me. Told them to atleast get me a new one if I pay full price. Then they told me that Tudor wouldn't send a new one till the display model got sold. Guess I am dealing with a stubborn AD and left w/o buying anything. Still sad about my Tudor experience.
I wish we could just purchase directly from Tudor online, the way Omega, Tag Heuer and Breitling does. Not sure why Tudor forces us to buy from the AD, I don't have one near me for Tudor.
Have to say that must be total and complete BS from the AD, i bought a Tudor 1 month from an AD where I have to say I am a client, but still, if thats the policy i highly doubt i could have gotten the 25% discount i got. So yeah, as always the problem is the AD and the sales representative you stumble upon
@@stevens1041Sorry, but buying Omega, Breitling, and Tag online is a wildly stupid thing to do! Why would you pay list for a watch you have not seen when they are all big discount brands??!!
@XDarne I don’t mean to be rude, but did you expect the AD to give you a discount just because you asked? He obviously did not need to because you still bought the watch! It does not sound like the AD did anything wrong. You just did not know how to get the discount.
You're breaking my heart as I have the first two watches! 😂 In all seriousness though, I'm not concerned about the depreciation for the following reasons: 1. I'm not looking to sell my watches short to medium term. 2. Rolex owns Tudor, and you can be sure that as they elevate into $20k+ territory for entry level models, Tudor will be elevated to fill the void in the$10k- $15k category. 3. Rolex used to offer occasional discounts, Tudor don't. In 10 years if I do decide to sell, theres no way I'll be taking a loss.
Paid 3040 for my tudor gmt at retail and with recent price rises they aren't far off that for a decent pre owned model now so I say buy retail no problems.
It looks like it depends of the market (country). I bought a BB54 2 weeks ago in HK at an official retailer, and they offered to me a discount (chinese new year discount) without asking.
In a previous video you rail against Tudor quality control issues based on anecdotal evidence. Now you advocate buying used at a steep discount that won’t come with a warranty. What will you pay in repairs? I would never buy a luxury watch with my hard-earned money without a manufacturer’s warranty. Along that same vein, I will buy a watch to wear and not to sell later. Tudor depreciates. BFD.
This only matters if you think watches are investment. The majority of watches are not investments they are time pieces we wear to tell the time and intend to keep. I have the BB54 it’s a great watch and I rotate it with my other watches which were bought to wear. If you use your logic you would not buy a car, laptop computer etc all depreciate the minute you leave the store.
I agree with everything you said, however 1 more thing to take into consideration is the annual price increase, that all these brands do. I have a Black Bay GMT here in the UK, new today they are £3780, used they are around £2300. However I paid £2533, so the depreciation over 3 years has been less than 10%. So, buying used is a better deal, but buying new and keeping a few years, will not break the bank.
This video’s timing is impeccable because I just bought a bb58 blue for 2530 on eBay, like new box and papers from Japan. Hope it doesn’t drop more from there. If it goes down to 2K I am gonna cry.
This is everything wrong with the hobby. If you love the watch and intend to keep it, does it really matter if the street price goes down another hundred dollars? Just enjoy the watch.
I had a recent experience while passing through Canada. I saw a Tudor AD on my way back to the states and decided to stop in. I've been interested in the Black Bay Chrono Panda and a few other models. I've handled these watches before and know what to expect when manipulating the wind, engaging the pushers, etc. When adding to the wind there was something noticeably wrong, and it felt like it was skipping. I proceeded to inquire about buying it but would only do so at a discount. They didn't entertain my request and told me that I would have to pay full price and that left a bad taste in my mouth, mostly for the AD not so much Tudor. After that experience I am far less set on buying new from an AD considering that, and the expected depreciation just for it being used. I have taken my search to Ebay and found some great examples that won't hurt the bank nearly as much.
Which reseller can you trust? Maybe the premium you pay for authenticity really isn't that much after all. Besides, I don't flip and I like original box and papers; I like provenance that starts with me. I buy watches as an extension of myself. We tend to treat watches like cars, but watches are far more valuable. Just my own thoughts...
Thank you for the video! And all your investigation. Me, personally would stay away from Tudor at all. They won't negotiate in AD because they want to make every penny possible and they want you to think that if you'll pay full price for their watch you'll fell almost like you got just one step away from Rolex. Personally, I don't like it and most likely I'll never be a costumer. The pre-owned one? maybe one day...
When I bought a tutor ranger, I wasn’t really bothered if it devalued, but if I was in a position to buy another tutor Watch now, I would certainly be wanting to negotiate
Stop treating them as financial investments and just wear the damn things. Enjoy the fact you are even fortunate enough to own something like that. Most people will never be able to afford it or just don’t want to spend that kind of money.
Saving money on a purchase has nothing to do with treating it as speculative investment. That's what you can do after with the money you saved. If someone saves money buying toilet paper on sale was that treating toilet paper as an investment?
I'm 58 and going back to the 80's I still cannot get past the perception that Tudor is a poor mans Rolex. Don't get me wrong. There are a few models I love and would like to own. I do have a 79280 Tudor Tiger chronograph and in my opinion, it's as close as you can get to a Daytona. Would also like to add a vintage 7928 but prices are crazy. Since the black bay came out in 2012, I've been at the AD twice with one on the wrist and credit card in hand but last minute handed it back and bought a used 90's Rolex instead. I'm more into vintage Rolex and the BB 54 is tempting because it harks back to the 1950s submariners but I cannot get excited enough to fork over even $3,400 for a used one. The way I always looked at it is if you have $3,400, keep setting money aside for a used Rolex. Every Rolex I ever bought, which were all pre owned, except for one Submariner I bought new, increased in value.
Tudor was invented to be a poor man’s Rolex but that was when Rolex was a tough robust good quality watch. Note they’re shiny luxury goods so for me modern Tudor with their technical improvements compared to 80s Rolexes are actually comparable to older Rolexes. Very few modern Rolexes I would want and very few older Rolexes I’d pay the asking price for. Older Rolexes at modern Rolex prices is insanity for me. Clearly the market disagrees though
@manuel_winde Yes, I also lost interest in 2010, though I bought one of the last remaining 16610s in 2010. To me, the case could be made that Tudor has always been the one and only authorized homage maker to Rolex. Some examples are the modern Black Bay especially the 58 and 54, while a modern interpretation of the 1950s Tudor Submariners, the first Tudor Submariner 7922 was released in 1954, a year after the first Rolex submariner 6204 released in 1953. More proof Tudor is copying Rolex's heritage is the new BB 58 GMT as Tudor never had an equivalent 1950s 6542 no crown guard GMT Master.
The shops are full of them any model you want, why would anyone want to pay anywhere near retail. If I buy new I get the full warranty, the excitement of a new watch. I’ve sold two Sinn watches and nearly got all my money back but their prices had increased by the time I sold. Most Omega and similar watches you can get discount.
10% on the 54 if I sold it now but with 5 years of warranty ($80 a year) and peace of mind from dealer is worth it, T54 will eventually appreciate and I am not selling it anytime soon.
The only reason I don't buy from AD is because I don't trust that the online seller didn't Frankenstein the inside of the watch. Otherwise I would do used.
People who buy watches for investments don't understand the word investment. In a post COVID world where the government is no longer handing out lots of free money to the masses, all collectibles are declining. So don't fool yourself into thinking that pretty much all collectibles aren't declining in value. You buy a watch because you like it not because you think you're going to make money on it. If you're doing that you should learn how to invest properly.
You can't expect to buy a used watch with a few years of warranty remaining and a lot of marks and scratches for the price you paid new. Seriously, people sell stuff cheaply for a reason, won't they?
The new tudors holding a decent value. The secondary market is always a 3 year beat up especially in Denmark and they are very popular here. Barely rolex are investment these days. So Tudor’s are not
I been eyeing a Heuer Monaco calibre 11. Which is like about 8k brand new. I could grab a lightly used one for about 5k with a full set. So NO WAY I'm going brand new
Concerning the Black Bay Pro, your analysis does not pick up on the fact that this is sold with three strap/bracelet types at three different retail prices, nor does it look at condition. You are looking at the retail price of the most expensive version and comparing that to the used price of all 3 versions, possibly most of them with the nato strap. Not really as simple as you depict.
I plug in the exact reference number and use the market average that WatchCharts gives. A watch with no signs of wear will sell for more than one with scratches so I have to go with the average price.
Yes you input M74970 but if you look at the references which WatchCharts looks at you will see that it is looking at all three versions. M79470-0001, M79470-0002, M79470-0003 so although you input the correct base reference number you are not showing a clear picture because WatchCharts does not differentiate between the three. Again not as simple as you depict. Almost all watches depreciate the exception is Rolex and maybe a few others. The market is now starting to normalize so soon maybe even Rolex will depreciate when the plummeting is over. Watches are not investments so depreciation is to be expected...
I don’t look at each individual auction but look up the reference number in Watch charts and they average out all of the listings. In my experience a few years doesn’t heavily impact the value unless the movement has changed or some other major improvement to the watch has occurred.
I think there is too much tudor ,make the watch boring,but i am agree,better buy it in seco dary market,tudor is more and more expensive...so if you can find one recent and less expensive its better
Hence why you always buy Tudor 12-24 months after its release. You NEVER buy a Tudor in the new hype period. There’s no such thing as flexing with Tudor so don’t bother trying to be first. No one cares. Wait 12 moths and you’re guaranteed to get at least 15% off.
The prices of Tudor have increased dramatically in Malaysia, it's sad though haha cause I thought I would love to buy the Black bay 54 or Black bay 41.
Where can I get a new Tudor with papers and the box for all these lowered prices? ebay? No thanks. I bet those prices come right back up, I know in ten years all of the Tudor line will be worth that much more in mint condition, maybe not as good an investment as Rolex but still upwardly mobile , unlike most other brands, retail may be inflated but having the new, original carries plenty of weight .
I strongly doubt it Tudor makes TOO MANY BLACK BAYS. The line is over saturated. So I don't ever see them becoming desirable. Orless a certain model gets discontinued with a short production run
Why this advice does not make sense is if everyone followed it no one would own anything. Capitalism requires retail sales to create a second hand market. Some have to buy retail so some can buy second hand.
Question ….the prices you quoted on second hand….are they ebay only? does it include chrono24? another question is whether the watches on second hand you quoted include box and papers? i have my eye on both a bb58 black and a ranger and seeing the ranger box and papers in the 2600 range and the bb 58 around 3,000 on chrono 24
i have to say its going to depend on the AD, I recently bought one that I requested adn had to wait a couple months for, finally got the call to go pick it up and to my surprise when it was time to pay, i got a 25% discount (the watch was a Black bay pro), so I think it depends on how "bitchy" the AD wants to be claiming "its the policy" its the same BS thing they say about rolex "We get 3 subs a year and we are lucky to get 1 daytona" well... no, met one watchmaker on an AD and they get 30-40 watches PER MONTH and of those there might be 5 subs, couple daytonas, gold, steel... GMT and whatever, so end of the day, its all sales pitch BS that they want to shove down our throats@@coldpizzawatchreviews
Buy brand new. All watches along with Omega go down after you buy. The only one that retains is really a Rolex if you buy at the right time. I would rather buy new with the warranty and the new watch experience. If there is a discounted model I will buy used.
So what do you want tudors to appreciate when you buy them straight away? dosnt work like that buddy cause people arnt constantly buying tudors to the point that demand overtakes stock. Also dont know whats going on with your tudor dealers but i work for the watches of Switzerland group at an ad for tudor and we can negotiate on most models
I persobally dislike this type of content being a watch collector and enthusiast. I own Tudor and Rolex. But why would you tell someone to buy used because of market depreciation? Imo i would tell you to enjoy the AD experience, buy brand new, your name on the warranty card build a relationship with your sales associate maybe in the future you want a Rolex or harder to get model and you already have a good relationship and purchase history. It’s not about value it’s about experience and feeling good about what you buy. Most ADs will offer 24 month 0 financing on Tudor and Cartier if your credit is up to par. It’s like pinching pennie’s for luxury timepieces go buy a Gshock if you can’t afford it and work your way up. Buy at retail work on your relationship with the AD trust me you will be moving up quick to a Rolex it snowballs. Good luck 👍 Enjoy your life don’t penny pinch
Also own Rolex and Tudor. I agree. I don't concern myself with watch depreciation. I make sure I love a watch prior to purchase. Never intend on selling my BB54 and Pelagos 39, so videos like this do not concern me. The only brand that doesn't lose value is Rolex. Watches are not investments.
I buy Tudor, Rolex and Zenith as well as Vintage watches too. I have an excellent history with my AD’s and honestly if I have box,papers and all the links that is important to me . I don’t like to buy used for the simple fact is that you can’t trust with 100% that a used watch wasn’t abused in a way that you may not see it from the case etc. Knowing I just bought from my AD’s is a comfort level as well . As far the using eBay as a guide on what different brands are selling for it’s not accurate . Are you getting box and papers and has the watch been serviced in the manner that the manufacture would service . Also you don’t know if the sapphire crystal is generic or OEM. What about parts, how do you know that the authenticity guarantee checks each and every link on the bracelet and even other parts , I have heard all types of issues buying from eBay and that’s why I have not pulled the trigger on a couple of vintage watches on eBay . I can always meet a seller at Rolex or Tudor and have the watch maker check it out to authenticate it but trusting a third party unless they are a certified watch maker from Rolex / Tudor it’s a risk . I have an independent watch maker who is 80 years old and trained in Switzerland with Rolex and he himself told me that beware of anything being sold from watch dealers online because they use parts and even movements from other watches to make a used watch sellable . Chono 24 tends to be not accurate either
I bought my BB41 diver for 2700$ from AD back in 2018 went there because the price difference wasn’t much from used. Am neutral for AD experience so if i got huge discounts on second hand ones i will grab it. Breitling was huge bonus in used market and you would stupid if you got it from AD even today but not as extreme as pre watch mania around 2014 onwards
Tudor price is going down - good news for me! It's my favorite watch brand (excluding luxury high end). Slightly used Ranger is killing deal. You can get in house movement, Tudor's best bracelet with T-fit and ceramic bearings, 100m WR, sapphire etc. for around $2300. Looking around for BB Pro gmt.
I didn’t buy my black bay 58 for investment purposes. I bought it because I liked it. Plus, I want to be the one responsible for the wear and tear of my watch.
Tudor doesn't interest me, like, AT ALL. If I ever had the desire to purchase a High-End Submariner homage, I would just buy a Steinhart. If I only wanted a paltry 200m of water resistance, I would buy an Invicta. When the lowly Tissot Seastar 1000 has better water resistance for less than 1/4 the price of the Tudor, you just know that the only reason that they people still buy them is because they see them as a more "sensible" Rolex. People are basically brand-wh0res and the Fauxmega Moonswatch craze is absolute proof of it. Many Tudor fan boys/girls/whatever say ridiculous things lke "Tudor is better than Omega!" which makes me realise that these are just a bunch of Rolex owner-wannabees with an inferiority complex stemming from the fact that they do not, in fact, own Rolexes (but they think that they do). They own Submariner homages with a bunch of inexplicable extra bumps on their bracelets. Tudor is perhaps the most fantastically overpriced Swiss watch under $5,000 simply because Rolex owns them and people think that somehow makes Tudor special, but it doesn't. Rolex owning them doesn't change the fact that they're a very low-spec dive watch with an even lower spec aluminum bezel insert (pathetic!). That might work in a vacuum but watches like Tissot, Mido, Longines, Christopher Ward and Oris do not have this ludicrous "feature" as they all have engraved ceramic bezel inserts. Tudor is extremely unimpressive to me and always will be if nothing changes.
I will not buy a Luxury watch w/o a manufacturer’s warranty. You railed against Tudor’s QC failings in a previous video based on anecdotal evidence. Buy a used or gray market watch and something fails you are stuck with the repair bill. I buy a watch to wear with no intention of selling it later. You seem to think everybody does this. Sheesh.
100% if it’s on display for sale in a shop you should never pay list. Can you let me have the link to your Omega version of this video though please 😉 They are the discount kings 😂
I saw some fake ones on the market. Even though it, obstensibly,, cost less, it still cost an equivalent to a new one after you plus custom cost, tax, etc... and furthermore, you are gonna take a risk to get a fake one. I'd rather to buy brand new one.
The Black Bay pro looks great head on but the side profile 🫣 it’s bloody awful. Tudor have many quality issues which are well known now and it’s putting people off.
I’m happy buying my watches in the boutique, I really enjoy the experience it’s something special. Nothing like a box fresh watch and peeling the stickers off whether it’s Tudor, Omega or Rolex. Buying a second hand watch on the internet isn’t the same.
Exactly 👍🏼
i agree. My parents always told me, if you worry about depreciation on a consumer good... don't consume it. Watches are not investments!
$1500 can buy a few nice dinners though.
I’ve always bought my Tudors from the secondary market to protect me from such drops. I tend to have to wait for about a year after the launch of a new model to get the one that I want but thats an acceptable trade off for me
Hi , agree with you @GrumblingForesight but I think the Chronograph Tudor S&G wouldn’t ever be very low on the price 😉
All the best 🥃 Cheers mate!
Actually price depreciation is the norm. Used products are supposed to sell cheaper than new products bought directly from the store. And I am totally agreeing with you. I always buy new, be it be cars, watches, electronic devices etc. Firstly because I am rich and secondary I just do not like buying used products when I can afford new products. And I never intend to sell what I bought.
The idea of buying a non limited edition watch on the secondary market for more than retail is revolting. The current Rolex practices are unsustainable. The younger generation that wanted to buy their first entry level Rolex to celebrate a milestone but were treated like garbage by a retail worker now have a sour taste in their mouth when they think of Rolex. Give it 10 years and those watches will be selling for a discount on the secondary market and ADs will be begging for customers.
you dont buy watches for the finances. you buy them to enjoy them. if youre looking to buy investment timepeices, then start at rolex, AP, Patek etc.
This is for the initial purchase. If you’re looking at a Tudor check out the used market first
You don't have to be investing in a watch to want to get the best price. This is just being a savvy consumer getting the same watch for less.
I bought two Tudor watches for myself and one for my lady at the AD. The AD experience is always the best way to go. It has entertainment value. As you know, entertainment and ambiance is always a part of the cost.
I am at the point where getting one at secondary market price is definitely a treat.
I sold my remaining Tudor watches in my collection:
Pelagos 39 - purchased in Nov '22 for £3,500 (did receive a £250 gift voucher) sold in May '23 for £2,800
Pelagos FXD MN21 - purchased in Nov '21 for £2,920 and sold in Jan '24 for £2,800
So taking into consideration I purchased the P39 and got £250 off, that's a 15% drop. The FXD MN21, I also got off with only losing £100 over 24 months of ownership. Sold both to a dealer as I didn't want to risk selling it privately and running the risk of losing the watches through scams, etc.
Used in the UK. Tudor watches depreciate around £450.00p Sterling per year. The Pelagos sells at £4,320.00p today, a 2021 sells around £2,600 or less that’s a loss of around £573.00p per year.
I just recommend picking one up slightly used and get a big savings vs paying retail at the AD.
Buy used and possibly get scammed. Pass
There are steps you can take to mitigate that risk like going to a reputable dealer, using a credit card for he purchase, agreeing with the dealer upfront that they will take it back should it fail a 3rd party authentication then taking it to be authenticated.
Tudor boutique gave me 10% off a new BB54 a couple of months ago. First purchase there, simple negotiation.
I own approximately 50 watches from about $300- $20k nothing crazy , I’ve only ever bought maybe 3-4 in an authorized dealer , I don’t buy used because I’m a head case about scratches and damage I didn’t do . I also don’t care about building a relationship with some salesman who sees me as nothing more than an ATM ., I buy grey market . Best of both worlds I save a lot of money generally and, when prices get out of control I stop buying the pricey hard to get models . I don’t care about manufacturers warranty as I’ve never had a watch fail in the first 3-4 years anyway . And I could care less about resale as I’ve never sold a watch , just my opinion your mileage may vary
Im exactly the same other than I sell most of mine as I’m constantly chasing this elusive “two watch collection” 😄
I always buy in sales and grey market- have bought a couple times from AD but the experience is nonsense to me after doing it once. Yeah it was nice buying a Rolex from a boutique but the staff know less about watches than I do so the process is awkward as I have to listen to them tell me untruths.
I got 20% off my Reverso duoface before the price hikes. The JLC boutique offered me nothing, watches of Switzerland offered me 3% off 😄
I always buy Tudor brand new. This advice is ridiculous
you when someone has an opinion 😭
Imagine thinking advice on how to save thousands of dollars is ridiculous 🤡
Same here.
Great video. You have great tips to research prices. The type of watch tells alot about the person. I also think where you buy a watch does too. I love the chase for a qualty watch at a discount. I guess i am a cheapskate lol. Those who pay full retail like the experience and may be low risk. They could also be the types to buy a new house over an older one because they dont like renovation. Regardless I really appreciate your video content
I have four Tudors all bought secondary. It’s my favorite brand but I knew upfront secondary was the way to go. Same case for majority of the brands.
Hey,
On average how much % less were they in the Grey market that you purchased for?
@@danisheverblue 20-30% and all were bought new within the year at the time I bought them
Who do you get them used from? I'm looking for trust worthy places
Why do they never reply when you ask them where they get it used from?😢
Jomashop, bobs watches, and highly rated eBay sellers
Got a black gold BB58 in Tokyo for $2800. Great watch. Great price.
Nice deal on a great watch!
Whats missing for me is the fact, that you dont calculate in how used the watch is in your statistics.
Of course you can always buy a beat up one for less then a new one.
I use WatchCharts market average so that includes a watch that’s practically unworn to heavily used. That averages out to an overall market value.
@@coldpizzawatchreviews yes. So you will always be Cheaper Than ad… that is my Point
@@Klavaturdeswahnsinns no that wasn't your point 🤣
@@DadeMurphie glad that you know better what my Point is than myself
@@DadeMurphie to make it more clear to you. If you include all Watches from beat Up to new you will of course Drive the price down. Watches without Box and Papers and so on.
You would Always have to compare new and unworn to AD. I Hope now you Could follow My explanation. Sorry Englisch is Not My First language so i May have Not written It clear enough for you
I have a couple of Rangers, they include the Tesla numbers 3-6-9 0n the dial, this makes them very good value.
Just a few days ago I bought a BB54 for my local AD for $3,900 and it was quite happy to pay the retail price at the AD. I'm not sure if you're aware but there are many fakes of this already out, and buying it from an AD guarantees you're watch isn't going to be a fake, of course you can find out pretty quickly by looking at the movement, but who wants to hassle of dealing with that? Also I think it's a good idea to support the brick and mortar stores because they do provide a service. Not everybody should look to get the cheapest deal, sometimes supporting the AD is the right thing to do. And at 3,900 for the quality of this watch I'm feeling pretty good about it.
In November I bought Tudor GMT Rootbeer. I recently sold it and took a big hit. They offered me a used black bay ceramic for a good price. But I just couldn't come to terms on buying used. I know people are rough with their stuff. Plus there was paint missing on the teeth and crown. I'm pulling the trigger on the new one next week just for my piece of mind.
Buying new from AD’s you generally won’t get a discount. So you’re advocating buying pre owned, where the previous owner got bummed by a watch dealer so you can buy 15% below retail.. just buy the new watch, and when buying write it off. People who buy with price retention in mind shouldn’t be buying anything other than gold, silver or bonds, certainly not majority of watches.
You gave no reasoning to take the financial hit. "Just buy the new watch" why buy it at full price? You can even get never worn with the stickers still on them Tudors at a discount. Someone receives a new Tudor as a gift doesn't want it and sells it to a dealer who then sells it to you.
@@adriancox2786 why would you buy new theres plenty jewellers / watch dealers with retail shops that sell used mint condition watches at like 3/4 of new price. Theres absolutely no logic in what you’re saying excluding the name on the warranty card and getting a few nice smiles from the sales staff on purchase.
@@dennox1 I picked up the new Tudor coke gmt last weekend. Started off with a coffee & the sale then emerged. It was elective on their part. Had a glass of champagne, chatted for an hour and it was lovely. Buy it new. Enjoy it. Don’t feel guilty about spending on stuff you want to and can afford to. Miserable or swingeing aren’t places to dwell if you’ve a mean of avoiding it. Happy Christmas to me! They gift wrapped it & everything. Warm memories made
@@adriancox2786 you know if you enjoy that then no doubt you have worked hard and your enjoying spending your money so more power to you. We all have the things we like and things we want. For me even as a business owner (maybe because we had hard times a few years back). I just need to get a deal and not pay retail or near retail. Anyway enjoy ☺️.
Great video. Thank You for this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
And that’s why I will never buy a new Tudor lol seems like these “collectors” in your comment section are butt hurt over facts
😂😂😂😂😂
Went in to an AD for a tudor rootbeer, asked for a discount and got told off.
They told me that it's Tudor's policy is that you can't discount them.
Then they started packing up the exhibition model for me.
Told them to atleast get me a new one if I pay full price.
Then they told me that Tudor wouldn't send a new one till the display model got sold.
Guess I am dealing with a stubborn AD and left w/o buying anything.
Still sad about my Tudor experience.
I wish we could just purchase directly from Tudor online, the way Omega, Tag Heuer and Breitling does. Not sure why Tudor forces us to buy from the AD, I don't have one near me for Tudor.
Have to say that must be total and complete BS from the AD, i bought a Tudor 1 month from an AD where I have to say I am a client, but still, if thats the policy i highly doubt i could have gotten the 25% discount i got. So yeah, as always the problem is the AD and the sales representative you stumble upon
I'd walk out
@@stevens1041Sorry, but buying Omega, Breitling, and Tag online is a wildly stupid thing to do!
Why would you pay list for a watch you have not seen when they are all big discount brands??!!
@XDarne I don’t mean to be rude, but did you expect the AD to give you a discount just because you asked?
He obviously did not need to because you still bought the watch!
It does not sound like the AD did anything wrong.
You just did not know how to get the discount.
You're breaking my heart as I have the first two watches! 😂 In all seriousness though, I'm not concerned about the depreciation for the following reasons: 1. I'm not looking to sell my watches short to medium term. 2. Rolex owns Tudor, and you can be sure that as they elevate into $20k+ territory for entry level models, Tudor will be elevated to fill the void in the$10k- $15k category. 3. Rolex used to offer occasional discounts, Tudor don't. In 10 years if I do decide to sell, theres no way I'll be taking a loss.
Paid 3040 for my tudor gmt at retail and with recent price rises they aren't far off that for a decent pre owned model now so I say buy retail no problems.
It looks like it depends of the market (country). I bought a BB54 2 weeks ago in HK at an official retailer, and they offered to me a discount (chinese new year discount) without asking.
Hello mind me asking how much was the discount planning to get one too.
It was not a big one (5 or 6% if I remember well). At the end the watch was around 28k or 29k HKD (3400€) versus 3900€ in Europe.
@@MaroKNard thanks for replying...
In a previous video you rail against Tudor quality control issues based on anecdotal evidence. Now you advocate buying used at a steep discount that won’t come with a warranty. What will you pay in repairs? I would never buy a luxury watch with my hard-earned money without a manufacturer’s warranty. Along that same vein, I will buy a watch to wear and not to sell later.
Tudor depreciates. BFD.
This only matters if you think watches are investment. The majority of watches are not investments they are time pieces we wear to tell the time and intend to keep. I have the BB54 it’s a great watch and I rotate it with my other watches which were bought to wear.
If you use your logic you would not buy a car, laptop computer etc all depreciate the minute you leave the store.
I agree with everything you said, however 1 more thing to take into consideration is the annual price increase, that all these brands do.
I have a Black Bay GMT here in the UK, new today they are £3780, used they are around £2300.
However I paid £2533, so the depreciation over 3 years has been less than 10%.
So, buying used is a better deal, but buying new and keeping a few years, will not break the bank.
This video’s timing is impeccable because I just bought a bb58 blue for 2530 on eBay, like new box and papers from Japan. Hope it doesn’t drop more from there. If it goes down to 2K I am gonna cry.
This is everything wrong with the hobby. If you love the watch and intend to keep it, does it really matter if the street price goes down another hundred dollars? Just enjoy the watch.
I had a recent experience while passing through Canada. I saw a Tudor AD on my way back to the states and decided to stop in. I've been interested in the Black Bay Chrono Panda and a few other models. I've handled these watches before and know what to expect when manipulating the wind, engaging the pushers, etc. When adding to the wind there was something noticeably wrong, and it felt like it was skipping. I proceeded to inquire about buying it but would only do so at a discount. They didn't entertain my request and told me that I would have to pay full price and that left a bad taste in my mouth, mostly for the AD not so much Tudor. After that experience I am far less set on buying new from an AD considering that, and the expected depreciation just for it being used. I have taken my search to Ebay and found some great examples that won't hurt the bank nearly as much.
Yes definitely a good decision to skip the AD.
Over £1000 UK now off the retail price of the previously hard to find ceramic on the secondary. Look for 30% plus off second hand Todor
Where do you get this 30% off from? I'm interested to buy second hand used from reliable sites
@@sleepywolf82 he is bullshitting u.....let see if he reply
Jomashop has been clutch! I got two Omegas at 55% off brand new! Cant beat it 🎉🎉🎉❤
Which reseller can you trust? Maybe the premium you pay for authenticity really isn't that much after all. Besides, I don't flip and I like original box and papers; I like provenance that starts with me. I buy watches as an extension of myself. We tend to treat watches like cars, but watches are far more valuable. Just my own thoughts...
Thank you for the video! And all your investigation.
Me, personally would stay away from Tudor at all.
They won't negotiate in AD because they want to make every penny possible and they want you to think that if you'll pay full price for their watch you'll fell almost like you got just one step away from Rolex.
Personally, I don't like it and most likely I'll never be a costumer.
The pre-owned one? maybe one day...
Hyped. Stay away if everyone on YT IG talks about it. Then come back a year or two later and see where they’re at.
i dont get where people are getting this tudor dont give discount bs i work for a tudor ad and we do offer discounts on most models
When I bought a tutor ranger, I wasn’t really bothered if it devalued, but if I was in a position to buy another tutor Watch now, I would certainly be wanting to negotiate
Stop treating them as financial investments and just wear the damn things. Enjoy the fact you are even fortunate enough to own something like that. Most people will never be able to afford it or just don’t want to spend that kind of money.
Saving money on a purchase has nothing to do with treating it as speculative investment. That's what you can do after with the money you saved. If someone saves money buying toilet paper on sale was that treating toilet paper as an investment?
@@DadeMurphie Ask the guy who made the video.
I'm 58 and going back to the 80's I still cannot get past the perception that Tudor is a poor mans Rolex. Don't get me wrong. There are a few models I love and would like to own. I do have a 79280 Tudor Tiger chronograph and in my opinion, it's as close as you can get to a Daytona. Would also like to add a vintage 7928 but prices are crazy. Since the black bay came out in 2012, I've been at the AD twice with one on the wrist and credit card in hand but last minute handed it back and bought a used 90's Rolex instead. I'm more into vintage Rolex and the BB 54 is tempting because it harks back to the 1950s submariners but I cannot get excited enough to fork over even $3,400 for a used one. The way I always looked at it is if you have $3,400, keep setting money aside for a used Rolex. Every Rolex I ever bought, which were all pre owned, except for one Submariner I bought new, increased in value.
Tudor was invented to be a poor man’s Rolex but that was when Rolex was a tough robust good quality watch. Note they’re shiny luxury goods so for me modern Tudor with their technical improvements compared to 80s Rolexes are actually comparable to older Rolexes.
Very few modern Rolexes I would want and very few older Rolexes I’d pay the asking price for. Older Rolexes at modern Rolex prices is insanity for me. Clearly the market disagrees though
@manuel_winde Yes, I also lost interest in 2010, though I bought one of the last remaining 16610s in 2010. To me, the case could be made that Tudor has always been the one and only authorized homage maker to Rolex. Some examples are the modern Black Bay especially the 58 and 54, while a modern interpretation of the 1950s Tudor Submariners, the first Tudor Submariner 7922 was released in 1954, a year after the first Rolex submariner 6204 released in 1953. More proof Tudor is copying Rolex's heritage is the new BB 58 GMT as Tudor never had an equivalent 1950s 6542 no crown guard GMT Master.
Great advice ! Never pay retail for tudor
The shops are full of them any model you want, why would anyone want to pay anywhere near retail. If I buy new I get the full warranty, the excitement of a new watch. I’ve sold two Sinn watches and nearly got all my money back but their prices had increased by the time I sold. Most Omega and similar watches you can get discount.
Great price analysis
If no one bys a new watch... how can there be a 2nd market?
how much to pay for the used tudor black bay chrono S&G one or two year old in good shape ?
Great video and sound advice! I have been using ebay sold section for years as a tool to help me price watches for selling and buying. 😊
The worth of timepieces are priceless. Buy quality pieces that you love and don’t let it go. Pass it down
Brilliant stuff! Very informative.
buy what you like period.
First day buying any watch from AD ?
The 54 is my one and only watch. They’re still selling for for $4300 online
10% on the 54 if I sold it now but with 5 years of warranty ($80 a year) and peace of mind from dealer is worth it, T54 will eventually appreciate and I am not selling it anytime soon.
Great video! What other luxury watches are good to look at that have taken a big depreciation hit?
Zenith, Omega, IWC, Grand Seiko
The only reason I don't buy from AD is because I don't trust that the online seller didn't Frankenstein the inside of the watch. Otherwise I would do used.
Each to their own!
People who buy watches for investments don't understand the word investment. In a post COVID world where the government is no longer handing out lots of free money to the masses, all collectibles are declining. So don't fool yourself into thinking that pretty much all collectibles aren't declining in value. You buy a watch because you like it not because you think you're going to make money on it. If you're doing that you should learn how to invest properly.
You can't expect to buy a used watch with a few years of warranty remaining and a lot of marks and scratches for the price you paid new. Seriously, people sell stuff cheaply for a reason, won't they?
Nice Work!
Thanks!
Love the 54 👍
The new tudors holding a decent value. The secondary market is always a 3 year beat up especially in Denmark and they are very popular here.
Barely rolex are investment these days. So Tudor’s are not
Good video. The BB pro and BB54 are beautiful pieces. ❤
Tudor/Omega/Breitling/Cartier/Zenith/etc better value as preowned/greys. Omega SMP sapphire $8000 MSRP vs $5500 well conditioned preowned one example.
I been eyeing a Heuer Monaco calibre 11. Which is like about 8k brand new. I could grab a lightly used one for about 5k with a full set. So NO WAY I'm going brand new
Concerning the Black Bay Pro, your analysis does not pick up on the fact that this is sold with three strap/bracelet types at three different retail prices, nor does it look at condition. You are looking at the retail price of the most expensive version and comparing that to the used price of all 3 versions, possibly most of them with the nato strap. Not really as simple as you depict.
I plug in the exact reference number and use the market average that WatchCharts gives. A watch with no signs of wear will sell for more than one with scratches so I have to go with the average price.
Yes you input M74970 but if you look at the references which WatchCharts looks at you will see that it is looking at all three versions. M79470-0001, M79470-0002, M79470-0003 so although you input the correct base reference number you are not showing a clear picture because WatchCharts does not differentiate between the three. Again not as simple as you depict.
Almost all watches depreciate the exception is Rolex and maybe a few others. The market is now starting to normalize so soon maybe even Rolex will depreciate when the plummeting is over. Watches are not investments so depreciation is to be expected...
I buy what I like and it’s my money and I will buy new always.
How old are the BB58’s selling on the used market for $2,600 plus?
I don’t look at each individual auction but look up the reference number in Watch charts and they average out all of the listings. In my experience a few years doesn’t heavily impact the value unless the movement has changed or some other major improvement to the watch has occurred.
I think there is too much tudor ,make the watch boring,but i am agree,better buy it in seco dary market,tudor is more and more expensive...so if you can find one recent and less expensive its better
Hence why you always buy Tudor 12-24 months after its release. You NEVER buy a Tudor in the new hype period. There’s no such thing as flexing with Tudor so don’t bother trying to be first. No one cares. Wait 12 moths and you’re guaranteed to get at least 15% off.
Don't listen to this fool ... buying new from a AD is always the way to go. ..he sounds like a Tudor hater.
The prices of Tudor have increased dramatically in Malaysia, it's sad though haha cause I thought I would love to buy the Black bay 54 or Black bay 41.
Where can I get a new Tudor with papers and the box for all these lowered prices? ebay? No thanks. I bet those prices come right back up, I know in ten years all of the Tudor line will be worth that much more in mint condition, maybe not as good an investment as Rolex but still upwardly mobile , unlike most other brands, retail may be inflated but having the new, original carries plenty of weight .
I strongly doubt it Tudor makes TOO MANY BLACK BAYS. The line is over saturated. So I don't ever see them becoming desirable. Orless a certain model gets discontinued with a short production run
If you think Tudor . Breitling, Omega etc have poor resale value, Grand Seiko, Glashutte O, Panerai, JLC , Blancpain, Zenith etc are even worse
Oh yes those depreciate like a rocket!!
Why this advice does not make sense is if everyone followed it no one would own anything. Capitalism requires retail sales to create a second hand market. Some have to buy retail so some can buy second hand.
Never knew you couldn’t negotiate a Tudor! Wow.
The best chance of negotiating a Tudor at the AD is if you were offered a store discount through a promotion.
Question ….the prices you quoted on second hand….are they ebay only? does it include chrono24? another question is whether the watches on second hand you quoted include box and papers? i have my eye on both a bb58 black and a ranger and seeing the ranger box and papers in the 2600 range and the bb 58 around 3,000 on chrono 24
Tbh I got my new bb, the red one, 2023 model in jubilee, with a discount at my AD. Not massive but It was nice.
i have to say its going to depend on the AD, I recently bought one that I requested adn had to wait a couple months for, finally got the call to go pick it up and to my surprise when it was time to pay, i got a 25% discount (the watch was a Black bay pro), so I think it depends on how "bitchy" the AD wants to be claiming "its the policy" its the same BS thing they say about rolex "We get 3 subs a year and we are lucky to get 1 daytona" well... no, met one watchmaker on an AD and they get 30-40 watches PER MONTH and of those there might be 5 subs, couple daytonas, gold, steel... GMT and whatever, so end of the day, its all sales pitch BS that they want to shove down our throats@@coldpizzawatchreviews
umm yes we can i work for a tudor ad most models we can negotiate on
preach, brother
Lesson to learn. Don’t buy a watch as an investment EVER!
Buy brand new. All watches along with Omega go down after you buy. The only one that retains is really a Rolex if you buy at the right time. I would rather buy new with the warranty and the new watch experience. If there is a discounted model I will buy used.
Can you name a brand within Tudors price point where a brand new watch doesn’t depreciate?
No I can’t, looks like the best right now is the Black Bay 54 but still dropping a few hundred dollars off of retail.
@@coldpizzawatchreviews Ok thank you. Doing some research, planning on buying my first “Luxury” watch.
So what do you want tudors to appreciate when you buy them straight away? dosnt work like that buddy cause people arnt constantly buying tudors to the point that demand overtakes stock. Also dont know whats going on with your tudor dealers but i work for the watches of Switzerland group at an ad for tudor and we can negotiate on most models
I persobally dislike this type of content being a watch collector and enthusiast. I own Tudor and Rolex. But why would you tell someone to buy used because of market depreciation? Imo i would tell you to enjoy the AD experience, buy brand new, your name on the warranty card build a relationship with your sales associate maybe in the future you want a Rolex or harder to get model and you already have a good relationship and purchase history. It’s not about value it’s about experience and feeling good about what you buy. Most ADs will offer 24 month 0 financing on Tudor and Cartier if your credit is up to par. It’s like pinching pennie’s for luxury timepieces go buy a Gshock if you can’t afford it and work your way up. Buy at retail work on your relationship with the AD trust me you will be moving up quick to a Rolex it snowballs. Good luck 👍 Enjoy your life don’t penny pinch
You sound out of touch
@@travisogden9426he sounds like a man who knows what he wants, and can get it. You sound broke
Also own Rolex and Tudor. I agree. I don't concern myself with watch depreciation. I make sure I love a watch prior to purchase. Never intend on selling my BB54 and Pelagos 39, so videos like this do not concern me. The only brand that doesn't lose value is Rolex. Watches are not investments.
I buy Tudor, Rolex and Zenith as well as Vintage watches too.
I have an excellent history with my AD’s and honestly if I have box,papers and all the links that is important to me . I don’t like to buy used for the simple fact is that you can’t trust with 100% that a used watch wasn’t abused in a way that you may not see it from the case etc. Knowing I just bought from my AD’s is a comfort level as well . As far the using eBay as a guide on what different brands are selling for it’s not accurate . Are you getting box and papers and has the watch been serviced in the manner that the manufacture would service . Also you don’t know if the sapphire crystal is generic or OEM. What about parts, how do you know that the authenticity guarantee checks each and every link on the bracelet and even other parts , I have heard all types of issues buying from eBay and that’s why I have not pulled the trigger on a couple of vintage watches on eBay .
I can always meet a seller at Rolex or Tudor and have the watch maker check it out to authenticate it but trusting a third party unless they are a certified watch maker from Rolex / Tudor it’s a risk .
I have an independent watch maker who is 80 years old and trained in Switzerland with Rolex and he himself told me that beware of anything being sold from watch dealers online because they use parts and even movements from other watches to make a used watch sellable .
Chono 24 tends to be not accurate either
I bought my BB41 diver for 2700$ from AD back in 2018 went there because the price difference wasn’t much from used. Am neutral for AD experience so if i got huge discounts on second hand ones i will grab it. Breitling was huge bonus in used market and you would stupid if you got it from AD even today but not as extreme as pre watch mania around 2014 onwards
Tudor price is going down - good news for me! It's my favorite watch brand (excluding luxury high end). Slightly used Ranger is killing deal. You can get in house movement, Tudor's best bracelet with T-fit and ceramic bearings, 100m WR, sapphire etc. for around $2300. Looking around for BB Pro gmt.
I'd be a fan if it didnt have that hour hand, or that old vintage lume style.
@@zazenzach5754 It's historical accurate with this hand. And the butt plug is invented after the vintage Ranger 😁.
Just bought a Pepsi GMT from japan under 3K.
No thanks. Do you post anything worth watching?
Dude’s a Tudor hating tool.
I didn’t buy my black bay 58 for investment purposes. I bought it because I liked it. Plus, I want to be the one responsible for the wear and tear of my watch.
Watches depreciate...?
SHOCKING 😲
Most of the watches depreciate
Do you think the new Tudor Pink,woll devalue?Its selling for around $6,000.
The pink chronograph?
Tudor doesn't interest me, like, AT ALL. If I ever had the desire to purchase a High-End Submariner homage, I would just buy a Steinhart. If I only wanted a paltry 200m of water resistance, I would buy an Invicta. When the lowly Tissot Seastar 1000 has better water resistance for less than 1/4 the price of the Tudor, you just know that the only reason that they people still buy them is because they see them as a more "sensible" Rolex. People are basically brand-wh0res and the Fauxmega Moonswatch craze is absolute proof of it.
Many Tudor fan boys/girls/whatever say ridiculous things lke "Tudor is better than Omega!" which makes me realise that these are just a bunch of Rolex owner-wannabees with an inferiority complex stemming from the fact that they do not, in fact, own Rolexes (but they think that they do). They own Submariner homages with a bunch of inexplicable extra bumps on their bracelets.
Tudor is perhaps the most fantastically overpriced Swiss watch under $5,000 simply because Rolex owns them and people think that somehow makes Tudor special, but it doesn't. Rolex owning them doesn't change the fact that they're a very low-spec dive watch with an even lower spec aluminum bezel insert (pathetic!). That might work in a vacuum but watches like Tissot, Mido, Longines, Christopher Ward and Oris do not have this ludicrous "feature" as they all have engraved ceramic bezel inserts.
Tudor is extremely unimpressive to me and always will be if nothing changes.
damn i really regret owning my 2 tudors now and never having a single issue with them damn it awhh man
no way
tudor tank badly once out of the door
All watches depreciate expect Rolex
Definitely buy on the used market unless the dealer gives you a hefty discount.
I will not buy a Luxury watch w/o a manufacturer’s warranty. You railed against Tudor’s QC failings in a previous video based on anecdotal evidence. Buy a used or gray market watch and something fails you are stuck with the repair bill. I buy a watch to wear with no intention of selling it later. You seem to think everybody does this. Sheesh.
Who cares? Don't buy my watches to get as much discount as I can? I buy em because I want them! Do you shop for everything the same way??
Why can no one pronounce Pelagos
Just buy it new . Who wants someones elses old stock
Great work !!! I like this type of information 👌
Careful of fakes
Tudor are being sold out like Rolex
100% if it’s on display for sale in a shop you should never pay list.
Can you let me have the link to your Omega version of this video though please 😉
They are the discount kings 😂
I brought up Omega in my Jomashop video especially how cheap Jomashop sells Omega vs the AD..
@@coldpizzawatchreviews AD’s sell Omega cheap so no need to mention Jomashop lol
Sour dog ... desperate to sell ur Rolex to pay the landlord huh?
Rent coming due hurry up and try to sell the Rolex 😂
I’m still in buying mode personally…….. and I don’t pay rent or mortgage 💸 💸 💸
Too late....I already did LOL
Truly no idea what he is even talking about....
do some research then ☠️
Tudor aint no Rolex.
no shit sherlock
New collector here. That square on some of their hour hands is tacky.
Buying durable goods as fully depreciated as is realistic is a rich man mentality.
I saw some fake ones on the market. Even though it, obstensibly,, cost less, it still cost an equivalent to a new one after you plus custom cost, tax, etc... and furthermore, you are gonna take a risk to get a fake one. I'd rather to buy brand new one.
The Black Bay pro looks great head on but the side profile 🫣 it’s bloody awful. Tudor have many quality issues which are well known now and it’s putting people off.