+Trey Holloway Jr. Agreed, after him not really taking down the reverse flash on his own it would be really satisfying to see Barry being able to take down Zoom by himself
+cwf395 Agreed... 1)When Barry fought Killer Frost and Deathstorm on Earth 2, he uses the Jay Garrick statue's helmet. 2) Jesse talks to Wells and addresses the Jay Garrick character as "The Flash".
I feel like all will come together by the finale, and it will make sense. But, of course, the finale will end with a giant something-or-other and leave us like "NOOOO! What? Don't end it this way! You are cruel!"
To answer your confusion, Zoom was present with Caitlyn the entire time up until Barry went to Earth 2. Then, Zoom got his time remnant to stay on Earth 1 while he went back to Earth 2. So Zoom actually did fall in love with Caitlyn. The only time Zoom was not on Earth 1 was when Barry went to Earth 2.
"Fake out". "He disintegrated Eric!?" "Speed Force". I love this, instant Stage 1 in the Grieving process, then Anger when saying he cant be invested, followed by bargaining with all the invisible talk lol. Talk about Blast Processing...
Maybe Henry Allen in earth-2 has a twin brother called Jay Allen. But instead he took his mothers maiden name for reasons and is Jay Garrick. He was the Flash of earth-2 but he never really showed his face when saving people. Untill Hunter Zolomon got his speed and captures Jay in his cell. Thats when he starts masquerading as Jay Garrick. So basically Jay Garrick could be played by John Wesley Shipp
I think the episode's title, "Rupture" is a metaphore for what "happened" to Barry and not about Dante /Rupture. That was clever from the writers' part!
It would be awesome if Barry was really lost in the speed force like in the comics and they spent atleast a season focusing on Wally's story. The show would definitely feel more interesting and fresh. Also the return of Barry would have more of an impact if we don't see him for a long period of time.
+Slade The Deathstroke Yeah True, it honestly is a wasted opportunity since making Wally the Flash would have rebooted the show and also emphasised the idea that "The Flash" isn't just Barry Allen. I also liked the idea of 2 inexperienced speedsters (Wally and Jesse) working together and learning off each other. But since the season finale is only a few episodes away, Barry would definitely be back by then.
+VanQuish I would love that. But if they are going to have him back like in two episodes, I would hate it. It has to be ethier have him gone like for a hole season, or have him killed for good.
Alex Sander We're 20 episodes in. Of course, he's coming back (at the end of episode 21). I mean, who can stop Zoom? It can't be Wally and Jesse. Barry is the only one who can stop Zoom.
+Alex Sander I feel like Barry hasn't really done enough as the Flash for them to get rid of him yet, it's only the second season. And honestly I like Grant Gustin a lot as the Flash and don't want him being replaced by Wally. He just doesn't seem very emotive/expressive to me
Zoom didn't get the time remnant until they closed all but one of the breaches. So it was ZOOM the whole time until later on. Jay Garrick is Earth 2 Henry Allen
+J'onn J'onzz that was the time remnant. From episode 2-13 its Hunter Solomon playing zoom then when Barry closes all but 1 breach that's when the time remnant comes in
When Barry 'disappeared' (using that for no spoilers) their reaction was so funny. No 'oh my god the flash is dead' just stuff like 'he got the power to turn invisible' and 'he's naked, wherever he is' 😂😂😂
There has been no Jay Garrick in the show so far, Hunter Zolomon was parading as Jay so when Caitlin went looking for Earth-1 Jay he made up the story about his doppelganger getting adopted and his name changed. Blue lighting only appears when you go really fast after taking Velocity, when Zooms time remnant was pretending to be Flash he never went fast enough for his lightning to change color because he was "sick".
When that happened, I was shocked and then excited because I knew he was being absorbed into the speed force! Now the speed force is going to try to keep him there while he tries to get out with Cisco and Iris' help. And it's Kevin Smith's episode! No wonder he was so emotional.
Jay Garrick would be Barry's great grandfather, since his grandmother's maiden name means her father's last name but since she got married, she lost her last name and changed to Allen
I believe they explained it that Jay was a time reminent that had the powers Zoom had the yellow lightening but made v6 to go faster and gained the blue color as for Jay having the yellow lightening it is basically Zoom before he took v6
We have never seen a Jay Garrick. Zoom tricked Caitlin into thinking that Hunter Zoloman on Earth-1 was adopted and so received a different name. Everytime we saw Teddy Sears, he was playing Hunter Zoloman. After hearing about Henry's mother, I think that, on Earth-2, his mother might not have gotten married and so instead of taking the name Allen, he was known as a Garrick. Maybe his mom even gave him a different name, Jason/Jay?
Have you guys watched *"Avatar: The Last Airbender"* series and it's sequel series *"Legend of Korra"*? If you haven't I would love to see all of your reactions to all of those episodes. You don't have to obviously, but your comment about "Captain Planet" reminded me of that, so just asking. :)
Rupture never got to demonstrate his real meta power - to make all the old men in town wear an elaborate series of trusses... Barry's become one with the speed force.
I said it last week and I'll say it again...I think the man in the iron mask is eithera version of Barry (Earth 1 Barry from 2024, or a different earth "Barry" known as Jay Garrick) or a version of "Henry" as Jay Garrick from a different earth. Eric: "Maybe you can summon them forth from the speed force" Aaron: "How?" Abby: "Iris." :-) Agreed with Eric about love triangles. That's what I love about West Allen this season. NO triangles so far. And I would love for the writers to keep it that way. Iris just came out and told Barry how she felt. There was no dancing around, no triangles, no games, it was just...healthy. A new approach for the CW I applaud them, lol. Here's to hoping the two just get together and start showing fans what a healthy relationship looks like (opposite of Olicity).
+Abby OTR I'm pretty sure it's not going to be future Flash that would be the lamest way for him to disappear, that's due to the Crisis they even hint at it in the article "Flash disappears in Crisis" It's Jay Garrick or 90's Barry Allen played by John Wesley or possibly a curveball like Eddie some how. I don't think it'll be Barry Allen from Earth 1 from any timeline.
True . I'm pretty sure in the comics though there is no earth 1 black canary at all and black canary on exist on earth 2 and other universes. So maybe the earth black canary will come to earth one and become a good guy.
When you think about Jessie and Wally being hit by the particle accelerater... they weren't doing anything that would make them get speedforce. Example: Barry getting hit by lightning, Tarpit was in tar at the time, Zoom was being shocked, etc. There is a possibility that they may not get speed, or it won't make sense lol.
You seem confused about zooms speed. So i will help basically zoom could change the color by slowing down and going faster. Once you get to a certain speed with velocity whatever your lightning will become blue. But if you have velocity whatever and you don't get to the certain speed your lightning will not be blue.
I think he merged with the speed force. Refer to the cartoon justice league episode where Flash goes so fast that he "disintegrates"- it's actually revealed that he's absorbed into the speed force.
He takes so much energy on that he is the speed force (he generates it with everystep) Barry would feel like perfect, reaching a nirvana in the speed force. He can leave but he has to turn down basically like perfection for it BUT when hes back Barry will be as fast as Zoom if not faster
I believe the man in the iron mask is barry from the future. I think this, because the writers said that no one will expect who he is. So he can't be Eddie, or Jay. Zoom is technically from the future, after V-9 turned him blue. I believe that he went back into the past, into the current present of the show. He took Barry with him from the future, to toture him to watch him conduct his evil, thinking that there is no way stopping him. That is why he was locked in the cage. That is why he tried to tell them the identity of Zoom but failed. However going back into the past causes time paradox, so in the end barry will win. I dunno, im just brainstormin. Hopefully the finale will shed some light.
+FaZe Hawk when a speedster dies they go into the speedforce so he's not really dead but in like a purgatory if you watch the promo for the next episode you'll kind of understand it better
+Kenneth Pryde Me too, i asked a qna about that but it didn't make the cut. The Jay with Caitlin was the remnant because he had no speed force. So why does Zoom, who is another Jay, care about her? And it's not about memory transfert or something because they are not from the same timeline otherwise zoom would have died when he killed his younger "self". When you played with time travel it's getting very messy very quickly.
+Nick Fletcher. maybe... i'm not so convinced. Didn't they test Jay for his speed at the beginning of the season and later multiples times for his illness? It had to be the remnant because there was no speedforce and zoom never lost it. I don't know anymore maybe you're right, it's all very confusing, my head hurts xD
+Kamyus GS It's not another Jay, it's his time remnant from the past, he made some kind of agreement with himself litteraly from the past, thus that plan. There was no Jay Garrick, it was Hunter Zolomon, we've yet to see the real Jay Garrick
A gun that shoots speedsters . . . LOL one of the best lines ever! But seriously, Jessie was once injected with velocity 9, so she's probably the one to become a speedster.
What if on this Earth Barry's father is only related to the Garrick family but on Earth-2 Henry Allen is Jay Garrick ? He is the man in the Iron Mask. That's why Zoom took his name because the real Jay Garrick/Flash is locked in his cell. Remember when they asked Zoom about the man in the IM and Zoom said: "You would not belive me if I told you" (It is just my theory tho) But yeah at least we know there is a real Garrick family out there and Henry Allen is related to it in some way.
Obviously the man in the iron mask is Joe Garrick because earth two Barry Allen is not de flash and who we supossed were jay is hunter solomon that is the clue , and in earth two is a barry father's relative.
Q&A Will Jesse have different speedforce power because of the velocity 9 or just different color lightning Do you think Hunter Zolomon and Jay Garrick are younger alternate timeline version of John Wesley Shipp's Jay Garrick\The Man in the Mask. Henry Allen of earth-2 could be Jay Allen we never heard his name and he could goes by his mother's maiden name Jay Garrick when .
Earth-2's Barry is an Allen, so his father is an Allen not a Garrick. Plus the speed dial on his house said Mom and Dad and his mother didn't mention her husband being kidnapped when Barry called her on the phone. I think Jay Garrick may be related to Barry, but I don't think Henry Allen is under the iron mask. I think Jay is. Agree that Barry is trapped in the Speed Force. Plus we saw him with his powers at Laurel's funeral...
+havok6280 what? Earth1's Barry is also an Allen, just like his father and his father's father. But it's his father's mother who was a Garrick. It could be exactly the same thing on Earth2 and Barry would still be an Allen.
+shishinonaito You misunderstand me. it's been speculated that Henry Allen is the man in the Iron Mask. Further, since Henry said his mother's maiden name is Garrick, that Barry's father on Earth-2 is Jay Garrick. I don't believe either of these theories. That's what I was saying.
+RealChineseGuy wow, that would totally look like a victory to zoom besides I don't think it can be Barry of the future because I believe Barry is faster than zoom in the next
Hey guys I have a theory, what if the man in the mask is henry allen but not as henry allen but as jay garrick just because zoom acted as jay doent mean he looks like him and since henry gave the hint that his mothers maiden name is garrick that should mean something either is his grandfather that looks like him or in earth 2 he has a different name. What do you guys think
In the comics, barry dies and becomes the speed force itself, and Wally becomes the new flash after absorbing the speed force. There is also multiples flashes, and yes one is a female.
this is what happen.. so we just fine out that Jessie and Wally definitely get their Powers but in the same time Barry went into the Speedforce instead.. talk about good and bad timing.. but Barry is gonna get out it's a matter of what episodes cause we have 3 episodes left..
I saw a Justice League Movie with Superman, Flash, Batman etc... And Barry ran around the world so many times in so little time he literally disappeared. All the heroes were shocked and some cried whilst Lex Just laughed. A short time later they can hear him and he says he needs a way to get back and I can't remember the rest but long story short he was IN the Speed Force. I think this is what happened and I think he is invisible but they just can't hear him YET. Anyone else think that this could be true?
+TheOriginalLuffy not necessarily. Barry is in the speed force. I think when he leaves the speed force he will be so much faster. I think he'll be tacheon fast.
Wait if v9 turns a speedsters lighting blue if you run fast enough, the Jay we knew wasn't running that fast so could it have been Hunter but he wasn't running that fast to show his blue lightning
Zoom: "Congratulations. You played yourself."
😂
This still funny 4 years later
@@randomguy2402 true lmao
How have I not seen this?
10:48 "What if it kills him and that's how we get Jessie and Wally" Good job lol
If this was Game of Thrones it would have been bye bye Barry for real.
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+Gamer3094 not really. we don't see him die. in game of thrones no one is dead until you see them die.
+srawa dernam He did disintegrate...but I guess thats kinda true...like Eric said, SPEED FORCE..lol
+Gamer3094 or not :D
+Gamer3094 Jon Snow says hi :)
Who else just watches every season over and over
i’m watching the show again lol
@ same lol
@@sea-of-skies_same here
I want to do it after last episode of season 9
@@westerxxx9220 thats what im doing rn
Yeah I feel like the man in the iron mask is the real jay Garrick which is the Henry Allen earth 2 doppelganger. Also I want Barry Vs. Zoom 1 on 1.
+Trey Holloway Jr. Agreed, after him not really taking down the reverse flash on his own it would be really satisfying to see Barry being able to take down Zoom by himself
+cwf395
Agreed...
1)When Barry fought Killer Frost and Deathstorm on Earth 2, he uses the Jay Garrick statue's helmet.
2) Jesse talks to Wells and addresses the Jay Garrick character as "The Flash".
Very close
wow u guys are smart fr
But wasn't Wally West the Flash that everyone loved in the comics? In fact, wasn't he The Flash in The Justice League cartoon?
KorovaMilkBar yes. Wally in the comics started as Kid Flash and took over after Barry sacrificed himself.
KorovaMilkBar No.
@@corywes8027 Yes, Allen died in the 80's and didnt return until '09
I loved barry
I feel like all will come together by the finale, and it will make sense. But, of course, the finale will end with a giant something-or-other and leave us like "NOOOO! What? Don't end it this way! You are cruel!"
To answer your confusion, Zoom was present with Caitlyn the entire time up until Barry went to Earth 2. Then, Zoom got his time remnant to stay on Earth 1 while he went back to Earth 2. So Zoom actually did fall in love with Caitlyn. The only time Zoom was not on Earth 1 was when Barry went to Earth 2.
If I hear "darkness" in Arrow or Flash one more goddamn time...
it sounds great when Zoom says it
Supernatural has a villain called The Darkness as well this season. Lol.
gtf over it.
....you can't lock up the darkness...
+Val You can't threaten, bargain with or demand the Darkness be silenced.
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I swear, this is seriously the fastest I've ever clicked on a video. No lie.
+Mimi Katayama Ive been refreshing this page, waiting for it to proces, since they put it on twitter
"Fake out". "He disintegrated Eric!?" "Speed Force".
I love this, instant Stage 1 in the Grieving process, then Anger when saying he cant be invested, followed by bargaining with all the invisible talk lol. Talk about Blast Processing...
I usually watch the episodes of all these shows by myself, but you guys seem like it would be super fun to watch and react to these shows with!
Maybe Henry Allen in earth-2 has a twin brother called Jay Allen. But instead he took his mothers maiden name for reasons and is Jay Garrick. He was the Flash of earth-2 but he never really showed his face when saving people. Untill Hunter Zolomon got his speed and captures Jay in his cell. Thats when he starts masquerading as Jay Garrick.
So basically Jay Garrick could be played by John Wesley Shipp
wow
+Lt.Moinim Odez This. Except that Jay Garrick was also Zoom's abusive father.
+Nemo's Channel Zoom's father is James, not Jay.
dejf ' I don't remember him actually having a name.. But Jay is short for James, so that works.
That is actually a very solid theory!!!
When Eric was right, speed force does everything
Yup Jessie and wally have the speed force in their system all they need to do now is activate it
I'm so excited for it
I think the episode's title, "Rupture" is a metaphore for what "happened" to Barry and not about Dante /Rupture. That was clever from the writers' part!
@22:03 "It was at this moment Aaron knew, he f*cked up."
Love this Blindwave, you guys are dope. That episode was awesome, I still think the man in the mask is barrys dad the real garrick.
i think it's barry, now that hes disintegrated, they migh need his double ganger in the future, maybe,?
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I can't tell you, guys, how eager I was for your reaction to this video.
Episode, rather.
It would be awesome if Barry was really lost in the speed force like in the comics and they spent atleast a season focusing on Wally's story. The show would definitely feel more interesting and fresh. Also the return of Barry would have more of an impact if we don't see him for a long period of time.
+VanQuish It would, down the line in future. But, who wants to see Wally face Zoom? It'll be like Season 1 Barry facing off Zoom.
+Slade The Deathstroke Yeah True, it honestly is a wasted opportunity since making Wally the Flash would have rebooted the show and also emphasised the idea that "The Flash" isn't just Barry Allen. I also liked the idea of 2 inexperienced speedsters (Wally and Jesse) working together and learning off each other. But since the season finale is only a few episodes away, Barry would definitely be back by then.
+VanQuish I would love that. But if they are going to have him back like in two episodes, I would hate it. It has to be ethier have him gone like for a hole season, or have him killed for good.
Alex Sander We're 20 episodes in. Of course, he's coming back (at the end of episode 21). I mean, who can stop Zoom? It can't be Wally and Jesse. Barry is the only one who can stop Zoom.
+Alex Sander I feel like Barry hasn't really done enough as the Flash for them to get rid of him yet, it's only the second season. And honestly I like Grant Gustin a lot as the Flash and don't want him being replaced by Wally. He just doesn't seem very emotive/expressive to me
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Zoom didn't get the time remnant until they closed all but one of the breaches. So it was ZOOM the whole time until later on. Jay Garrick is Earth 2 Henry Allen
+J'onn J'onzz nah he says he didn't get the idea for the time remnant after the breaches had been closed
+J'onn J'onzz that was the time remnant. From episode 2-13 its Hunter Solomon playing zoom then when Barry closes all but 1 breach that's when the time remnant comes in
When Barry 'disappeared' (using that for no spoilers) their reaction was so funny. No 'oh my god the flash is dead' just stuff like 'he got the power to turn invisible' and 'he's naked, wherever he is' 😂😂😂
:D that reaction between 11.58 and 13.05 ... he almost cried! :D u got a new subscriber guys
There has been no Jay Garrick in the show so far, Hunter Zolomon was parading as Jay so when Caitlin went looking for Earth-1 Jay he made up the story about his doppelganger getting adopted and his name changed. Blue lighting only appears when you go really fast after taking Velocity, when Zooms time remnant was pretending to be Flash he never went fast enough for his lightning to change color because he was "sick".
When that happened, I was shocked and then excited because I knew he was being absorbed into the speed force! Now the speed force is going to try to keep him there while he tries to get out with Cisco and Iris' help. And it's Kevin Smith's episode! No wonder he was so emotional.
12:00 I died at his reaction 🤣😂
Jay Garrick would be Barry's great grandfather, since his grandmother's maiden name means her father's last name but since she got married, she lost her last name and changed to Allen
Damn it! Eric just nailed it with the predictions xD
"Demonic speed demon"
I like it!
I believe they explained it that Jay was a time reminent that had the powers Zoom had the yellow lightening but made v6 to go faster and gained the blue color as for Jay having the yellow lightening it is basically Zoom before he took v6
4:23 isn't that the same set where future Kendra lived in legends
He got transported into the speed force and is pure energy.
I choked when Aaron said "something you put in your mouth", that was hilarious.
We have never seen a Jay Garrick. Zoom tricked Caitlin into thinking that Hunter Zoloman on Earth-1 was adopted and so received a different name. Everytime we saw Teddy Sears, he was playing Hunter Zoloman. After hearing about Henry's mother, I think that, on Earth-2, his mother might not have gotten married and so instead of taking the name Allen, he was known as a Garrick. Maybe his mom even gave him a different name, Jason/Jay?
FLASH!!!! *plays ocarina* I died LOL
Cassowary living.
Living.
0:13 No, the one all the way to the right is Reverse Flash, in the New 52 Daniel West was Reverse Flash and Eobard Thawne was Professor Zoom.
Remember the name of the daughter of docteur from Earth 2 , she will be a flash too in comics book.
Guy on the left is correct. The general consensus is Barry is trapped within the Speed Force.
+Kojin MacJorn That's what I think too
+Kojin MacJorn I'd swear I saw a Barry made out of yellow flash run out of the room after being desintegrated
shishinonaito
Possibly him being swept away by the Speed Force.
henry allen is jay garrick on earth 2, and he's the one under the mask
I love how much Eric misses Patty, same bro.
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION FROM TWITTER
Kevin Smith talked about directing Barry in Ep. 21 and also Barry has to show up at Dinah's grave.
+Leo Liu They've confirmed that the funeral was before barry lost his speed.
+Doug Snowden so no reaction from the flash team for Laurel's death... that's bullshit !
Cisco made a Fringe reference!! Raise your hand if you got it!!!
Yes!! And I was so happy because Fringe was my favourite TV show!
+Cyphobe yes! I am! Thanks!
+Cyphobe You're a f-ing nerd
And no one likes you and no one likes you!!!!!
+Cyphobe i know it was a reference from hot tub time machine 2 I quoted the complete lyrics used in the movie
+Cyphobe don't worry, I got it!
Q&A I think Barry is the man in the mask because Zoom says you wouldnt believe me if i told you.....and he somehow he ended up on Earth 2....
I want her to become Jessie Quick so when Zoom is dealt with she can go back to her earth to take Flash's place.
Eric is right with the info about the Reverse Flash
Love the work guys keep it up
Barry becomes the lightning strike that hits him in the beginning.
+Munzur Knight Paradox
Barry and Patty bang in a deleted scene from 2x09, you can prolly find it on youtube.
Have you guys watched *"Avatar: The Last Airbender"* series and it's sequel series *"Legend of Korra"*? If you haven't I would love to see all of your reactions to all of those episodes. You don't have to obviously, but your comment about "Captain Planet" reminded me of that, so just asking. :)
yes they need to watch both of these shows
Watch the Flash trailer for 21, it's called " The Runaway Dinosaur"
Rupture never got to demonstrate his real meta power - to make all the old men in town wear an elaborate series of trusses...
Barry's become one with the speed force.
blindwave barry is a part of the living speedforce itself
Coming back to this episode after Barry's return from Flashpoint.....
oh man.
Ow.
I said it last week and I'll say it again...I think the man in the iron mask is eithera version of Barry (Earth 1 Barry from 2024, or a different earth "Barry" known as Jay Garrick) or a version of "Henry" as Jay Garrick from a different earth.
Eric: "Maybe you can summon them forth from the speed force"
Aaron: "How?"
Abby: "Iris." :-)
Agreed with Eric about love triangles. That's what I love about West Allen this season. NO triangles so far. And I would love for the writers to keep it that way. Iris just came out and told Barry how she felt. There was no dancing around, no triangles, no games, it was just...healthy. A new approach for the CW I applaud them, lol. Here's to hoping the two just get together and start showing fans what a healthy relationship looks like (opposite of Olicity).
+Abby OTR I'm pretty sure it's not going to be future Flash that would be the lamest way for him to disappear, that's due to the Crisis they even hint at it in the article "Flash disappears in Crisis" It's Jay Garrick or 90's Barry Allen played by John Wesley or possibly a curveball like Eddie some how. I don't think it'll be Barry Allen from Earth 1 from any timeline.
The Black Canary Oliver marries in the comics is from E2. Just a thought.
True . I'm pretty sure in the comics though there is no earth 1 black canary at all and black canary on exist on earth 2 and other universes. So maybe the earth black canary will come to earth one and become a good guy.
When you think about Jessie and Wally being hit by the particle accelerater... they weren't doing anything that would make them get speedforce. Example: Barry getting hit by lightning, Tarpit was in tar at the time, Zoom was being shocked, etc. There is a possibility that they may not get speed, or it won't make sense lol.
but also Barry speed force was in that blast wouldn't that mean that they got hit with the speed force
+RedArrow2312 Games (Red) Possibly, but does that also mean Barry is inside of them? Lol, that should make for an interesting episode!
JRB Creations Gaming well that would be interesting I don't think he's Inside of them but his speed force could very well be inside of them
+RedArrow2312 Games (Red) Guess we'll have to find out!
You seem confused about zooms speed. So i will help basically zoom could change the color by slowing down and going faster. Once you get to a certain speed with velocity whatever your lightning will become blue. But if you have velocity whatever and you don't get to the certain speed your lightning will not be blue.
The Man in the Iron Mask is the 90's Flash!
I think he merged with the speed force.
Refer to the cartoon justice league episode where Flash goes so fast that he "disintegrates"- it's actually revealed that he's absorbed into the speed force.
He takes so much energy on that he is the speed force (he generates it with everystep)
Barry would feel like perfect, reaching a nirvana in the speed force. He can leave but he has to turn down basically like perfection for it
BUT when hes back
Barry will be as fast as Zoom if not faster
Gotta love this show.
I believe the man in the iron mask is barry from the future. I think this, because the writers said that no one will expect who he is. So he can't be Eddie, or Jay. Zoom is technically from the future, after V-9 turned him blue. I believe that he went back into the past, into the current present of the show. He took Barry with him from the future, to toture him to watch him conduct his evil, thinking that there is no way stopping him. That is why he was locked in the cage. That is why he tried to tell them the identity of Zoom but failed. However going back into the past causes time paradox, so in the end barry will win. I dunno, im just brainstormin. Hopefully the finale will shed some light.
Barry is part of the speedforce now. He'll be 10x faster than Zoom now.
Can you explain how I don't get that I'm confused now?
+FaZe Hawk when a speedster dies they go into the speedforce so he's not really dead but in like a purgatory if you watch the promo for the next episode you'll kind of understand it better
+Lineoblader Parkis Oh ok I get but I have a question why is everybody so weird in the time Barry's in?
barry is in the speedforce so they aren't real, that's the speedforce controlling everything around him, its trying to keep him in there
+Lineoblader Parkis Oh thanks now everything makes sense(:
Wally takes over as the Flash, but Barry comes back later...
I think it was zoom at times pretending to be jay. Also the zooms doppelganger that was pretending to be jay had powers at one time.
The "Jay/Zoom in love with Cat" thing is a huge plothole. It really bothers me in a show that otherwise is pretty close to perfect.
why?
+Kenneth Pryde Me too, i asked a qna about that but it didn't make the cut. The Jay with Caitlin was the remnant because he had no speed force. So why does Zoom, who is another Jay, care about her?
And it's not about memory transfert or something because they are not from the same timeline otherwise zoom would have died when he killed his younger "self".
When you played with time travel it's getting very messy very quickly.
+Nick Fletcher. maybe... i'm not so convinced. Didn't they test Jay for his speed at the beginning of the season and later multiples times for his illness? It had to be the remnant because there was no speedforce and zoom never lost it.
I don't know anymore maybe you're right, it's all very confusing, my head hurts xD
+Kamyus GS It's not another Jay, it's his time remnant from the past, he made some kind of agreement with himself litteraly from the past, thus that plan. There was no Jay Garrick, it was Hunter Zolomon, we've yet to see the real Jay Garrick
A gun that shoots speedsters . . . LOL one of the best lines ever! But seriously, Jessie was once injected with velocity 9, so she's probably the one to become a speedster.
"I'm tired of seeing his face!" - Erin
What if on this Earth Barry's father is only related to the Garrick family but on Earth-2 Henry Allen is Jay Garrick ? He is the man in the Iron Mask. That's why Zoom took his name because the real Jay Garrick/Flash is locked in his cell.
Remember when they asked Zoom about the man in the IM and Zoom said: "You would not belive me if I told you" (It is just my theory tho)
But yeah at least we know there is a real Garrick family out there and Henry Allen is related to it in some way.
barry is probably in the speedforce realm of some type
I love your guys' reaction
Obviously the man in the iron mask is Joe Garrick because earth two Barry Allen is not de flash and who we supossed were jay is hunter solomon that is the clue , and in earth two is a barry father's relative.
So is that how Wally and Jessie just get their speed force powers?
In the comics Barry came back to zoom and was like you beat me because I was powered by the speed force, and now I am the speed force
Q&A Will Jesse have different speedforce power because of the velocity 9 or just different color lightning
Do you think Hunter Zolomon and Jay Garrick are younger alternate timeline version of John Wesley Shipp's Jay Garrick\The Man in the Mask.
Henry Allen of earth-2 could be Jay Allen we never heard his name and he could goes by his mother's maiden name Jay Garrick when .
Earth-2's Barry is an Allen, so his father is an Allen not a Garrick. Plus the speed dial on his house said Mom and Dad and his mother didn't mention her husband being kidnapped when Barry called her on the phone. I think Jay Garrick may be related to Barry, but I don't think Henry Allen is under the iron mask. I think Jay is.
Agree that Barry is trapped in the Speed Force. Plus we saw him with his powers at Laurel's funeral...
+havok6280 what? Earth1's Barry is also an Allen, just like his father and his father's father. But it's his father's mother who was a Garrick. It could be exactly the same thing on Earth2 and Barry would still be an Allen.
+shishinonaito You misunderstand me. it's been speculated that Henry Allen is the man in the Iron Mask. Further, since Henry said his mother's maiden name is Garrick, that Barry's father on Earth-2 is Jay Garrick. I don't believe either of these theories. That's what I was saying.
You guys need to watch the chronicles of Cisco
The man in the iron mask is the real jay Garrick with the face of Henry Allen
+RealChineseGuy wow, that would totally look like a victory to zoom besides I don't think it can be Barry of the future because I believe Barry is faster than zoom in the next
There is no death there is the Speed Force.
Garrick is going to be the flash from the 90s flash show
Actually link has upped the time travel tally in majora's mask
Hey guys I have a theory, what if the man in the mask is henry allen but not as henry allen but as jay garrick just because zoom acted as jay doent mean he looks like him and since henry gave the hint that his mothers maiden name is garrick that should mean something either is his grandfather that looks like him or in earth 2 he has a different name. What do you guys think
I demand an ocarina intro every video
I bet that they'll get Barry back plus have Wally & Jessie. With all three of them together they might be able to defeat Zoom.
You should watch the promo for the next episode at the end of the video or something
In the comics, barry dies and becomes the speed force itself, and Wally becomes the new flash after absorbing the speed force. There is also multiples flashes, and yes one is a female.
+Axel Medina jessie was nevver a fl
this is what happen.. so we just fine out that Jessie and Wally definitely get their Powers but in the same time Barry went into the Speedforce instead.. talk about good and bad timing.. but Barry is gonna get out it's a matter of what episodes cause we have 3 episodes left..
Barry didn't go through this is Thawne's future because the breaches wouldn't have been opened.
I saw a Justice League Movie with Superman, Flash, Batman etc... And Barry ran around the world so many times in so little time he literally disappeared. All the heroes were shocked and some cried whilst Lex Just laughed. A short time later they can hear him and he says he needs a way to get back and I can't remember the rest but long story short he was IN the Speed Force. I think this is what happened and I think he is invisible but they just can't hear him YET. Anyone else think that this could be true?
What's the title of it,like justice league....
I think you're referring to the Justice League Unlimited tv show when they're fighting Lex/Brainiac
Jordan Dyck Ahh, maybe. I didn't really pay attention to the title. Thanks.
Yes finally !!!! I've been waiting for this sense Tuesday !
Y'all guys rock !
I think it would be Barry, Wally, Jessy and you for got the real Jay going up against the bad guys.
Now we know many speedesters its take to beat Zoom. RIP Zoom.
+TheOriginalLuffy the director of the show confirmed already that barry and zoom will 1v1 in the end
Wally and Jesse still don't have their powers, it was confirmed.
Well, then they need a way to nerf him.
+TheOriginalLuffy not necessarily. Barry is in the speed force. I think when he leaves the speed force he will be so much faster. I think he'll be tacheon fast.
+Diego Pena dont give spoilers, they dont like that
Wait if v9 turns a speedsters lighting blue if you run fast enough, the Jay we knew wasn't running that fast so could it have been Hunter but he wasn't running that fast to show his blue lightning
Thanks for answering my question:) I'm Barry Allen on Twitter
I think what happened was when barry got hit with the particles he vibrated out and time traveled back. And wally is going to get his speed now Yes!
+Seth Tolar He's in the Speed Force.
I heard that there wont be multie flashes on this show. Bummer
Barry will be alive next episode..
+Ethan Bradberry I think he'll reappear in the finale.
In the end Barry was thunderstruck and became one with the speed force.
Duh I know that and I was making a shitty pun.
Zoom:make sure you get this
Kills camera man
hey Wes got speed powers now