Bike World vs Carwow Drag Race! | TTS SuperBusa vs Dani Pedrosa on a KTM MotoGP Bike vs Rimac Nevera
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2023
- We've been back to the runway with Carwow, this time to race Dani Pedrosa on his updated KTM MotoGP bike and a crazy fast Rimac Nevera.
Thanks to @TTSPerformance again for the TTS SuperBusa.
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I like what Chris mentioned that noone else does. MotoGP and F1 are made to race around twisty tracks yet they still manage to be so fast in a straight line.
MotoGP outright beats everything in a straight line including F1, but F1 still has impressive straight line but they shine the best around corners which their lap times beats MotoGP. But the only thing that I think can beat both MotoGP straight line speed and F1 cornering speed (current gen, ground effect F1 that is) is the 919 Hybrid Evo. I know that it is a oneoff thing but the acceleration and cornering capability of that thing is no joke, it's a shame Porsche did so little with it.
@@ryndrssn It may be faster round some corners than current F1, because the stupid cunts keep adding on weight. Some slower corners, but medium and high speed corners F1 is faster. Pre 2022 F1 is most definitely faster.
MotoGP doesn't beat F1 off the line. MotoGP is better after 300 km/h, F1 has too much aero for that.
@@ryndrssn motogp still wins the straight line against the 919 but the 919 is slightly better than some or maybe even most of the f1 cars in some corners and in top speed
@@ryndrssn KTM RC16 is not the fastest motogp bike there is currently. Ducati right now is dominating every bike in everything
@@effortlessmike9085 I think this is 2021 engine with upgraded chasis and fairing KTM, 2023 version has better acceleration than Ducati and you can see it watching races, it is like a rocket... But on run and go Ducati has a edge over KTM
Dani's reaction to the acceleration of the Rimac was priceless. Dani is a GREAT racer.
Dani is not great.... He's a legend!
It was cool to watch a guy, who rides one of the fastest bikes in the world, to be so genuinely stunned, giggling like a little kid. That was awesome.
Yes Pedrosa has always been the best starter in MotoGP, a great guy (apart from taking out team mate Nicky Hayden in 2006) and yes a great rider with no one else better for these drag races... HOWEVER saying all that the races where Dani won was when he jumped the start, overall the Nevera still had the edge overall on the MotoGP bike, the MotoGP bike is slightly quicker around 150kph to 310kph but overall so closely matched with the Nevera, come on Redbull bring the 950hp/520kg RB1 their very first car and get Ford to make another V10 like they use to run in the RB1, near 2000hp/ton would yield a 0-300kph in 8.2sec and that would beat the Nevera and I'd say with that 8.2sec to hit 300kph they would win here so bring the 2023 bike with 300hp and a few more tweaks, also try bring the Tesla Roadster with the space x package and a Koenigsegg Gemera 2300hp or Jesko Absolut, that would be the epic 2023/2024 race.
@@1010thechamp I was always right Moto GP bike did beat Rimac Nevera in 3 races 1 dig and 2 rolling races
your comments are fake you kid no F1 car is running 8s lmfao 😂 too much wheelspin in those traction control cars
2022 Ducati Moto GP bike would dust KTM GP bike and Rimac
Jenson Button couldn't even use full power till 130 mph in a V10 F1 car
BAR Honda 2005 V10 F1 car did 9.1 seconds quarter mile against BMW S1000RR 9.9
F1
BAR Honda 2005 F1 car had 970 HP and 600 kg
Running 9.1 at quarter mile at 164 mph
Rimac Nevera running 8.4 @172 mph
MotoGP bike running 8.2 @185 mph
Look in second race it literally smoked Rimac Nevera from dig
MotoGP bike won both rolling races
Bike week wobbling due to high wind
Still GP bike was ahead of Rimac Nevera
If GP bike didn't wobble if there was no crosswind
MotoGP bike would put even bigger gap on Rimac Nevera
2022 Ducati Moto GP bike was a lot faster than KTM or Suzuki honda Moto GP bikes
2022 Ducati left everything behind on Straights Nothing could keep up
Even 2015 Ducati Moto GP bike is Faster than this KTM GP bike
@@1010thechampLorenzo Stoner Rossi Were also best at launching hand over 2022 Ducati Moto GP bike on Carwow it would dust Rimac Nevera bring any F1 car it can't even keep up with Rimac Nevera
Rimac Nevera left Redbull RB8 F1 car in dust (800 HP 600 kg)
Even H2R walked on Redbull RB8 F1 car
What an athlete Dani is! He is so humble, always with a smile despite that hes known all around the world. God bless you Dani
Yeah always comes across as very likeable. Always felt bad that he never managed the Moto GP title.
What is the big deal about being humble, is he human or alien...?
@@Akkibenit’s not uncommon for legends with so much success to let it get to their head. Therefore, when someone stays as humble as Dani does, it’s worth praising him for.
These races simply put a huge smile on my face. So a huge thank you to everybody involved in the process. Not only the riders, but all the people behind the scenes too. And Chris, you are my hero! 👏
Even being the bike guy that I am. I honestly expected that Rimac to just disappear into the distance given its instant power and traction. Fair play, Dani was incredible on that KTM! Chris never really stood a chance with lack of grip though unfortunately. 👏
Even on the Roll on the Busa got destroyed..
Based on the weight and power specs of the GP bike, Rimac are GREATLY exaggerating their hp numbers. It has all the traction, great aerodynamics, so IF it actually had that claimed hp it would have easily left the bike behind. It is hard to dyno a car like that, but this race is almost as good as a dyno and shows they are lying about the car's power.
@@wizrom3046blind and bullshit comment.
I cant get over the performance of that KTM...It beat the Rimac in the rolling race to over 200mph and according to the Rimac website their car can do 0-186mph in 9.2seconds 🤯
I used to see the telemetry of MotoGP bikes. It was insane how effortlessly could pull. They were actually faster than an F1 car. They can wheelie in any gear!
Crazy! Imagine the new ducati gp bike 🤯 andrea iannone's old ducati did 0-300kph in 8.9 seconds and the new ones are just ridiculously quick
and that is an older motogp bike, imagine the current ones
Rimac must by lying about the car's specs.
If their hp claims were true it would have left the GP bike far behind.
@@wizrom3046 exactly how far behind would the KTM be?
The GP bike is incredible. The ability to get its power down is also incredible. Must be down to electronics.
Gp bikes do allow TC and wheelie control. Also the holeshot device makes a huge difference.
I don't know much about gp bikes, but comparing top of the line current TC systems on bikes vs the first generations of bike TC, is like night and day.
Plus TC and wheelie control intervention for the GP bike is no doubt customized specifically for Dani.
KTM have been getting super quick launches this Motogp season, the best of any manufacturer. They went back to a cable actuated clutch for better feel off the line (the only time they use it) and with the front and rear lowered it becomes a drag bike.
280 hp + a racing slick for traction + Dani = spectacular starts. Brad Binder and Jack Miller have been doing the same in Motogp this season, rocketing off the line.
@@ThaSideWeed I think Dani indicated this wasn't the latest bike, which means it's missing the very latest holeshot / ride-hight tech. Because they all use a control ECU, TC might not be as advanced as it could have been - but it does seem like they have all mastered it now! The Ride height stuff is getting a bit ridiculous now, it's 100% mechanical / hydraulic rider controlled because of the rules.
The new 5 axis IMU used in GP bikes you can set maximum nose lift angle aka wheely control. So if you only want 3 inches of front wheel lift you can dial it to 3 inches and it will ride a 3 inch wheely until it runs out of enough mechanical force to lift the front wheel. MotoGP electronics are incredible. The fact they are slipping down to production bikes is crazy.
@@SingleTrackMinedthis isn't 23 version, I think it is 21 or 22... Maybe upgrades 2021 version..
Dani is such a gentleman......one of the best to do it, he deserved at least one championship. A class act through and through.
I am 100% confident that the MotoGP bike will do low 8 second quarter mile time on a prepped dragstrip.
It will destroy the car in a prepped surface
In a previous video with Dani they published the ET and it was o low 9. Good but not that good
@@nisseht it did an 8.6 in this video so that must have been a bad day
you think that rimac wouldn’t be quicker on a prepped?
@@autolavista Rimac also quicker on a prepped dragstrip. It already did 8.25 quarter mile time on a closed course speed testing circuit. Dragtimes TH-cam channel guys already tested the quarter mile time of the Rimac nevera on the prepped dragstrip. But they achieved the best time of 8.58.
You know Dani is a very down to earth lil man when he gave his time to join this race and gave genuine happy face. What a legend indeed
this Proves H2R or The Superbusa cannot beat a MotoGP Bike even in straight Line...well done...
This Busa is already faster than H2R 🤣🤣 Busa ran 9.2 @166 mph seconds at 1/4 mile check the owner channel TTS performance
H2R does 9.4-9.6 depending on launches
H2R ran 9.4- seconds quarter mile @170 mph strong trap speeds but wheelies till 3rd gear
MotoGP bike ran 8.2 in second race Carwow didn't show it
They showed last race where it ran 8.6
Rimac Nevera was running 8.4 and 8.5 seconds quarter mile
@@Smzxe
1. Rimac’s best 1/4 mile time is 8,2sec
Watch this video
th-cam.com/video/cSp2CN-XQX8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SGKIdnUv-Nb1M_gI
2. Motogp’s 1/4 mile time in this video isn’t 8,2 sec at a second race.. it was Dani who jumped at 2nd race that’s makes motogp won the 2nd race.
Shocks me just how fast that motogp bike is. No wheelies and it keeps the power down. How exactly do they do it? I've always wanted to know.
Front and rear are lowered, electronics take care of spin and wheelie, 280ish horsepower, hot racing slick, insanely talented rider.
@@SingleTrackMined will putting shorter fork springs in the front make it lower?
I didn't know slicks were THAT sticky. But then again, it's a motogp bike, not some busa built in a shed in England lol
@@ConfectioneryCorner In Motogp they have a lowering device they activate before launch. It releases back to regular height on applying the brakes for the first corner.
Onboard computer doing 10,000 samples per second, stops the rear wheel spinning up and the front wheel from lifting. Gets the absolute max acceleration power to the ground. And a rider with the guts to hang onto it.
Honda dropped a bollock by letting Dani go when he retired from racing , look at how well the KTM is doing in moto gp now thanks to his test riding input !
Respect to chris for riding bike in those conditions...
Indeed :) But also remember who's right next to him on the KTM. Dani's list of injuries over the years is... scary
@@C64SX every rider on grid.....
Awesome. Amazing skills from Dani and Chris (and bravery!). Carwow does great drag races
Who else wants to see Chris on the GP bike?
Power is nothing without (traction) control. MotoGP technology really is on another level.
Superbusa is a superbeast, 03:28 from 100 - 180 mph takes only 5.97 secs. Insane !!! 🤯🤯🤯
BUT watching 07:57 the KTM MotoGP start and left the Superbusa behind, i've got more goosebumps on that KTM machine, really on another level 🔥🔥🔥
11:47 Dani's best moment enjoying Rimac Nevera acceleration ❤❤❤
Both Dani and Chris; you guys are phenomenal! All the best for both of you
Best motorbike channel on TH-cam.
Stay as you are and fortune will come
Coming from carwow, Thanks For racing that beast !
Thanks for checking us out, we had a great time again.
@@BikeWorldTVshow hyy criss do you remember 😊mee i am the first guy to comment you to race turbo busa against motogp bike and you said we are working on it watchout for and after 6month passed i thought that plan was cancel but after a year you finally did it😂😂 🎉🎉 thank and❤ for keeping my request ❤❤😇
seeing the busa immediately wheel spin at the first launch was so funny. It's just too excited to go!
Like a jack Russell on a laminate floor
Dani is such a good guy!
small guy
It is amazing how fast those bikes are! Been watching MotoGP for many years but this gives you a clear idea of how fast those bikes are when you can compare them.
Danny is a legend. The most humble and positive man in the history of racing. Also, very talented
Love watching these videos. Chris is a great presenter - a mix of biker, racer, petrol head and nutter. Thoroughly knowledgeable in his subjects and able to engage with his guests.
Awesome to see Dani back again with the KTM...a true ambassador for the sport!
Having watched Dani in many M-GP races that guy is a legend.
1900 PS, 4 WD, perfect traction control and still no chance vs a V4-Race bike. Holy shit!
Rimac nevera win XD and destroyed superbusa lol
@@jozefjozefczyk3936rimac lost 😂😂😂
@@CrazyPanda688 rimac nevera 8.5
MotoGP 8.6
Superbusa 9.6s
Nevera 2300kg
That rimac won 3 out of 5 races.. and you still saying that it has no chance vs motogp??😂 and it’s still a roadlegal car vs prototype racing bike😂
Fair play to Dani and KTM... Total respect!
Dani, huge fan! Well done today, and Chris, massive respect.
Man that KTM was surprising. Its dominating like a berserker. ❤❤
Chris you are insanely brave!! To race in that conditions with that beast!!! Just pure courage👏👏
I'll pretty much watch any race with Dani Pedrosa in it... Too cool.
It’s always amazing to see what a MotoGP bike is capable of. You know in your mind it’s the most technologically advanced motorcycle that exists, but because it doesn’t look as wild as say andF1 car, it’s easy to forget what that actually means. They don’t look, at least at a distance, all that different from a showroom super bike these days.
Bicycle with Rocket
No it's different especially all the tools they were using inside that bike. One blogger who are a fan of both F1 & MotoGP got the vip chance to witness how the people work on this bikes. He said that he was amazed about the technology inside of it. He compared it to F1 & he said that basically could really make F1 cars run for their money in terms technology. It means these machines are basically on par on terms advancement. It's just F1 of course started early & had evolved quickly than MotoGP. Then, the change of regulations that DoRNA have implemented in 2016 just to cut the cost & encourage new manufacturers to join once again hurt the evolution of GP bike. They removal of the sophisticated prototype ECU of every factory which has been developed to it's best really brought down the quality of the bikes. Although it helps in a way that the racing became more closer recording 9 different winner in 2016.
Anyway, Magnetti Marelli did improve though today thanks to the manufacturers camaraderie to make it better. But it will never match the Factory ECU's of the past that even Wsbk Champion/GP rider Colin Edwards said that the Magnetti Marelli was 7-8 years behind of what he was using in his Tech3 Yamaha M1 of 2011.
@@dayleashleynolasco5765Why did they remove custom ecus?
@@dayleashleynolasco5765nice bit of info btw.
@@sambridhathapa4313 cost cutting & make the gap of the Factory to the Privateer closer.
Super effort Chris! You can see how soft the rear tyre needs to be on the 'Busa, and he still can't get the traction needed to compete. Moto GP bike on next level.
The KTM is amazing and that Rimac is unbelievable. Really good vid and nice to see Dani back.
if only chris given the chance to ride that motogp bike
Still think we need to keep to ICE the CarWow pleb has an easy life launching these Electric toys.
Chris is honestly one of my favorite presenters, across bike and car channels.
Brilliant and what a legend Dani is👌🏽
That KTM GP bike shows here how fast off the line it really is.
With The Samurai at the helm.
To keep with a electric AWD hyper car and take it if it’s was any farther is just astonishing. Hail GP trickle down to regular bikes.
That MotoGP bike is insane.
Dani mentioned at the beginning the power to weight is similar between the bikes but in reality the near 290hp 159kg MotoGP bike esepcially with Dani's light weight riding it is still the better power to weight bike.
hyy criss do you remember 😊mee i am the first guy to comment you to race turbo busa against motogp bike and you said we are working on it watchout for and after 6month passed i thought that plan was cancel but after a year you finally did it😂😂 🎉🎉 thank and❤ for keeping my request ❤❤😇
This is like a documentary, cinematography on point.
The ride height device is such an amazing piece of tech; it lowers the bike, making it aerodynamically efficient, and puts all the weight on the rear, which gives it so much traction and raises it back for cornering.
I can't wait for this tech to come to superbikes; modern superbikes really struggle to get off the line and lack traction compared to modern supercars.
Came from carwow ! That race Chris and Danny got my sub!
That busa is a beast, real hard with out all the electronic aids to launch.
Its a dumb idea that much horsepower in a rear wheel contact patch 2 inches square...
I have the stock 2022 Busa and the electronics stop it from chewing up the back tyre and flipping over backwards even with the stock 190 hp, I think it is dumb that people wanted Suzuki to turbo or Supercharge it. They just have no idea.
@@wizrom3046 I’ve got a second gen Busa I’ve had for four years, soon as i can It’s going turbo or tts supercharged.
@@steorris ... I respect your courage if not your common sense. 👍😎
@@wizrom3046 turbo Busas have been around for years, it’s all good. Have you ever watched ghost rider on a turbo Busa?
12:03 "AN DE GRIP" haha love Dani! Such an underrated athlete and pilot.
His holeshot off the line was flawless on the bike!
he is so humble being a winner here , a true champion
Gutted they didn’t give Chris a go on the KTM!
If KTM gives the 2023 RC16 it will be even faster, knowing how much improvement there is in aerodynamics.
Brad binder reach 366,1 kmh
I'm on my 6th Hayabusa, but FFS the KTM is insane.
Best motorcycle channel! Love the content.
Do you know which track gearing setup MotoGP bike used here? With mugello track gearing set up the bike reaches 225+ Mph.
I think it's Jerez
Chris you will ride that Moto GP bike one day its not over
Brilliant video! 👏
That KTM Moto GP bike is a rocket,only thing crazy like this is a Ducati Moto GP!
Not one single commercial bike has anything against a MotoGP bike.
What race that was insane. Dani is such a class act👏👏👏.
This is so awesome! I love Dani!
Penrose and Stoner are so relaxed now compared to the pressure of the MotoGP paddock. I'm glad they are enjoying themselves after that circus
Penrose and Stoner? WTF are you talking about?
Penrose is an autocorrect for Pedrosa and although Stoner wasn’t there it was noticed that Pedrosa was more relaxed as Stoner seems to be after MotoGP.
I want to see Dani riding superbusa. Want to know the difference in handling that much power without the help of electronics. It was a shame Chris cant experience a motogp bike. Those who agree pls support this comment .
The quickest sort of road vehicle i saw on the strip was a long swing armed GSX1100E,no turbo but running on nitro-methanol,it sounded frightening,looked terrifying to ride and cracked the quarter at just over 8 seconds with it squirming and spinning off the line.
That TTS is a beast, it needs a longer swing arm and to be lowered. The surface does not look very good for grip though, so the longer swingarm might just make it spin up more.
Nice work Chris trying to tame it while being a bit bashed up. Beer helps with pain apparently ...
Fuuuck! That KTM is amazing!
And Dani, what a legend.
That busa seemed slow although it is not 😂
The gp gear shift are lightning quick🤯
The Moto-GP is the most impressive participant in these races. The Sterling is faster over the straight but not by much and the bike can actually keep the pace around a track.
The KTM boys should have brought some sprockets as she was out of gear on the big end, quick sprocket swap and we get a W each roll race
Hey chris heart me right now
Ive been following you since carwow's collab with you ❤️
Dani's starts are superhuman!
AMAZING. AMAZING AND...AMAZING. MANY THANKS CHRIS AND GREETINGS FROM BRAZIL.
Salute to Dany. A great Racer and a Gentleman.
Good to see that Redbull, Rimac and Suzuki owner and the Group participated with gladness!
Very Nice show!
Personally and much more you can see a little bit more what these MotoGP guys doing every race.
Love Dani, and the only rider I have ever been more of a fan of was Rossi. But I always liked Dani's riding style better. So cool to see him here. Oddly enough, I'm a bigger Rossi fan than a Dani fan, but if I had to choose who I could meet between Rossi and Dani, it would be Dani all the way. Rossi seems bigger than life, Dani seems like a normal guy.
In my time as a moto gp fan from the mid nineties ive been incredibly lucky to spend almost all my time at motogp races in the paddock and have been fortunate enough to meet almost all the riders through the years many times like Vale probably 20 seperate times Dani numerous times Marquez , Lorenzo ,Stoner , Simoncelli, all of them and while i will preface this with the fact that this was within a high pressure work environment and so will i no way attest to a riders interaction outside of that world , my personal experience the nicest most approachable riders were Marco Simoncelli,Scott redding, Bradley smith,Alex rins,Alex Marquex, Nicky hayden. Vale was allways good with us and approachable but would have literally a crowd of people following him everywhere so understandably he had to be robotic in his interactions else he would be stuck for hours , the most dissmisive riders i ever came across were defo worst Andrea Ianonne , Casey stoner, Dani Pedrosa , Cal Crutchlow , Again i will say this in no way represents their attitude outside a work place .
Superbusa is really tough to launch. Hats off to the rider who managed to launch this beast. 🔥
I knew Dani wasn’t going to answer that question. MotoGP teams are so secretive about their bike’s HP outputs. They say 270HP, but would truthfully have to be around 300HP.
Edit : I thought her “rudimentary” comment was funny, but big man obviously didn’t like it.
most of the Current MotoGP bikes has 280ish horsepower. Except Ducati which has 290-300 hp.
@@wanderer54796 I think you’ll find that most have around 300HP man, but the teams are too secretive to admit it. In some Superbike categories (UK’s BSB for e.g.) the bikes are making 260 - 265HP (that’s what Josh Brookes’ M1000RR currently makes). It’s widely reported to be around 270HP, but GP bikes are more like 300HP on average. They must be in order to perform in the manner they do.
Edit : I have ridden litre bikes my entire adult life in the sports bike/ superbike category. I currently own a tuned CBR1000RR-R with a full titanium Akrapovic Evolution system (it pulls 155km/h in 1st gear and climbs to 325 km/h in no time) and all of the current 1000cc sports bikes are legit weapons. However, they absolutely pale in comparison to MotoGP performance (which are not only more powerful, but also 50kg lighter).
Dani is just another level! Respect for him ! Crazy start along with most fastest electric car in the world
That KTM is the pinnacle of my biking life (45 years on a bike) - it's beautiful, monstrous and what my generation were dreaming/working towards - excellent. If I were a millionaire - it wouldnt be locked away in a garage!
Was that busa test run spinning the tire about the whole way it was in view ?
Yep!
@@BikeWorldTVshow needs a car slick on it with an extra 100lbs over the front wheel lol
Come on KTM! Let Chris have a go! Think we should start a petition!
GP bikes are insane. Hats off to Dani
Amazing! Thanks for this now let’s see if Ducati picks up this bringing Pecco. Well done to Chris who lived to let us see this. Take care!
If your car can light up the face of a motogp legend you know it’s special
'Super' busa came last again , & broke again .
50 grand 😂😂
bro BUSA's always blow my mind. I laughed and smiled at like the same time he did bc my mind was blown
The speedo just climbing on that busa is incredible!!!
Surely Matt can hook you up with a day on the moto gp bike at a circuit!?
Love this channel and these races,but when is Dani going to let Chris try his bike 👏😂
It’s to do with power to weight ratios and the main thing is actually torque to weight and traction. The KTM has a factor of 6.3694 (1000kg/157kg = 6.3694). Thus the KTM has 270bhp x 6.3694 = 1,719.738 bhp/tonne. The Suzuki = 3.9216, bhp/tonne = 1411.776 bhp/tonne. The Rimac has a terrible bhp/tonne! It weighs 2300kg (data from website). Thus 1000/2300 x 1914 = 832.17 bhp/tonne. NOW, here’s where it gets interesting. If you look on Rimac’s site, the wheel torque is 13430Nm which equates to 5,839 Nm/tonne. Busa comes in at 1333.34Nm/tonne, KTM comes in at 7,643.28Nm/tonne.
So why does the Rimac win and the Busa come a dismal last? Electric motors deliver almost instantaneous torque. Add that to 4 wheel drive, and it’s always going to get the best start. If it was over half a mile, rather than a quarter mile, it would be a KTM win. The Busa is a waste of money. Because you can’t get the power down. Superchargers are great at very low revs. At high revs they consume (albeit a small amount of) power. If the KTM had 2 wheel drive, it would get a much better start.
Out of the 2 channels with the same content I’d alway pick this one. Carwow became a show mostly about its host.
Dani, legend. My absolute favorite racer!
Greatest show on earth for sure
And greatest channel on TH-cam for motorcyclists
Don Pedrosa, what a lovely chap. Great film gents
We may need to stretch that Busa a bit and get a bigger tire. Much wider. :)
Proof that spotless high tec is far superior than just a BIG turbo
Most enjoyable race is bike vs car
It would be fair to get the same sticky slick for the busa!!!
That Hayabusa instantly smokes the tire even going slightly on the throttle.