oh my god i love the detail of Robert suggesting going against the fireflies to steal something back from them and Tess and Joel immediately brush it off as idiotic and then at the end of the game that’s what Joel does. i’ve never noticed that before it’s amazing
@@Archangel100 but the joke is from the 2nd game where Ellie is talking to Jesse and she says he’s not her type and he mistakes it for his race but she tells him that she just doesn’t like guys
@@chattycatty3336I think he was... the way he grunted right when shots were fired, before they started rowling down, at least to me always sounded like he got wounded. They never showed any blood tho.
@@caimanaraujo479 oh okay fair enough, I remember him crawlimg to sarah, and I guess I assumed he would be steugglimg alot more if he had been shot lol, but either way 😂
@@chattycatty3336Once they get shot Joel has turned and started running already, so for Sarah to be shot where she was, Joel had to get hit first. I’ve been shot twice, one I didn’t even notice through the adrenaline and the other put me on my ass so hard I thought I was blown up. There are several places you can be wounded and it’s not only not lethal, in an intense situation you won’t even notice it. It’s why the first thing you do after a firefight ends as a team leader in an infantry squad is physically check the guys under you for wounds. Good practice to have them check you after as well. 5.56 is also a 20 caliber bullet, just like .22, so it is a very small round, high velocity and meant for penetration. It doesn’t deal the same kind of impact trauma other larger calibers deal, it needs to hit vital areas or shatter bones in order to be effective. Otherwise it just penetrates straight through doing minimal damage for a rifle round.
10:48 Tess: “We’re almost done. Stay focused.” This takes on a whole new meaning upon a second play through. Tess knows she’s been bitten at this point and the clock is literally ticking down until she loses her mind to the infection but if she can get Ellie to the Fireflies who are waiting at the Capital, her sacrifice might not be in vain. She’s speaking to herself as much as Joel.
Ikr. Fr that moment onward you could feel a subtle shift in Tess' overall demeanor as she becomes more notably no-nonsense and straightforward like she's tense and worried, which we later find out why. Noticed this even on my first playthrough.
Ikr right same just now! For whatever reason my mind just had a hunch it was him even before he spoke in this video, I guess from remembering some of his lines
43:20 I just played through this part again recently and I noticed one of the eye sight test charts in a side room actually says “You’re almost there, don’t quit” And damn that lines up beautifully with Joel carrying Ellie out of there
The amazing casting of Ashley Johnson as Ellie was a freaking match made in heaven. Ashley literally puts everything of herself in that role that, if you get to know mare about Ashley through interviews and her improv on Critical Role it’s so easy to see Ashley in all that Ellie does. The entire cast does amazing but I feel like Ellie would be an entirely different character and not the one we know ad love had Ashley not been cast.
Random small detail I loved: aside from the first kill, Tess consistently "double-taps" when shooting someone in the head, despite the scarcity of ammo. That's something you have to do in-game to kill clickers quickly, if not by stealth. It both reflects her ruthless survival instinct and informs the player.
I’ve noticed that basically all of the side characters double tap during the non playable sections/cutscenes for example Dina does in part 2 in the subway and whilst killing the clicker in front of her when Ellie was pinned by rubble in the supermarket , tess does when saving Joel from the clicker and when she kills Robert, and Riley does when saving Ellie from the runner that bit her in left behind.. it’s a pretty neat detail in both games and the dlc
"even people that dont like games can enjoy this." you are right..my dad kinda hates gaming and still he would run into my room when hearing gunshots just to see whats happening next. edit: i realised why i like playing as joel so much. because he looks just like my dad
Facts the only reason why he pointed the gun at Joel was to stop him from killing himself. It’s sad knowing that he was gonna end it once he lost someone he loved and cared about
And Joel knows it too. Once Henry starts saying “it’s all your fault” over again you can see Joel let his guard down because he knows that Henry is no longer really aiming at him. He knows exactly what Henry is about to do because he’s been there himself. Ever thought about the moments right after it cuts to the opening credits?
10:26 You can see that Tess is slowly coming to terms with her infection. It's the first time we see her fade out of the present and show some vulnerability. It's very sad. I love the detail in this series.
Goddamnit. Every damn time. Sarah’s death scene always manages to hit me with the same intensity. I’ve played this game so many times, but that scene never gets old.
@@tarandeepsingh6766 he almost always killed in self defence or for a reason tho. For instance that one guy who gave Ellie the rifle ( I forget his name ) was mad at him for killing a bunch of his men but they attacked him? He couldn't leave the hospital because they blocked him off.
it`s kinda poetic that joel had a fatal wound in the same zone as sarah and she died but he survived to have a redo ,also great beginning for a great story ,good music/visuals and voice acting
Fun fact when joel died in part 2 he told him to get up and when he almost died in part 1 before changing chapters when he fell she said to him the same thing
@@KennethSee bullets dont bounce inside wounds. They can fragment and tumble, but wont bounce. Thats a myth thats been disproven many times. More than likely she died primarily of shock, as the velocity of a 5.56 is very extreme and in some instances can put someone directly into shock especially with how small she is.
@@TheMedicinalSpoon also, given how small she was, the bullet could’ve hit many vital organs at once, whereas Joel is much larger, so his organs are also larger, meaning that the rebar couldn’t do more than impaling one or slightly damage two.
I kind of can't believe you didn't Win when Ellie is talking with Joel about losing Sarah and she says "I'm sorry, Joel" and he replies, "It's okay, Ellie." Both line deliveries are just so perfect and really juxtapose their conversation in the farmhouse (when Joel tells Ellie she's on "mighty thin ice" for mentioning the same topic. Good video though! Almost forgot how much I absolutely love this game.
Another detail in this game that I realized is idk if Elle realized she had to die because she talked about having plans with Joel like all they doing was taking blood so that lets u know Marlene didn’t tell her nothing
That’s what I thought. Marlene said “it’s what she would’ve wanted” yet Ellie didn’t know she would have to die to give the cure. We don’t know if Ellie would’ve wanted to die to give the cure. Also couldn’t they have just biopsied her brain instead of taking it all???
@@makenna6374 yea that’s flaw for I feel humans when they had a normal world didn’t have the technology or resources to create such a cure but the game wants me to believe a group like the firefly’s are competent enough to make one in a apocalypse
@@dancarli8639 not just make it then you have to mass produce it and deliver it its was false hope from the start and at the point where joel comes to them i think theyre less then a 100 man at best it wasnt possible for them to "save" the world imo even if they did all that would they sell it or give it then what if people try and take it from them we see how hard it is to travel how would they go on and distribute it to the while USA
@@francisforant yea good point there would so many ppl trying to steal that cure for good or bad reasons it would be ridiculous also idk if the cure would be permanent if not I would have to keeping making one every year because the fungi evolves so idk if they can do that
@@makenna6374i feel like most medical experts have died and people theorize that the nurses wouldve had to kill her anyways bc theyre college droppouts thus not knowing how to keep her alive
Small detail that i love that is missed by so many is the Snellen test chart (letter chart) at around 40.15 that says "RUN YOUR NEARLY THERE" as you run with Ellie in your arms
I don't know if you've seen it but there's a clip of a girl playing TLOU; she sees the bunny and says "That's the cutest bunny I've ever seen" millisecond before it gets shot. I felt bad about laughing at her agonized cry!
Damn I never realized that. Every time winter comes around she’s gonna be like “welp, guess it’s that time of year. Gotta go through another life-altering traumatic event 🤷♀️”
23:51 wow I never realized that 🤯 Glad you touched on how Joel and Tess’s relationship was never explicitly shown, just hinted at. Just think, Tess made Joel continue the journey he didn’t want to do; he didn’t want to go down that road because of his past with Sarah, but everything eventually fell into place. Tess was just the one to give him that push. No characters wasted in this game. Everyone has their role. They seriously need to make a prequel game of the 20 year blank period. Joel meeting Tess and how their relationship grew, Tommy and Joel’s rough road they went through, the birth of the Fireflies...
ohhh a sequel to the 20 year gap would be so interesting!! I feel like bringing back Tess and/or being able to play her would also be intriguing. I’ve always heard of people talking about sequels for tlou2 following Ellie or Abby, or Joel and Tommy’s journeys, but not much about Tess until your comment.
Honestly I don't see it as a masterpiece but to me it was an amazing game what is one of the best that I ever played gameplay and story wise it was phenomenal honestly the fact that does have flaws is one of the ways that it reminds me that Perfection should never put the sought out I think it's flaws shows that it's Beautiful Moments or even more just in general makes it feel where's the play through and luckily it didn't fly too close to the Sun
38:13 fun fact: that "last gauntlet" of infected can be done completely stealthily, if you have the patience to do so. It would have been near impossible to do that section on grounded difficulty (with the 2 or 3 bloaters + 10-20 other infected they give you there) if you couldn't do it stealthily. If I remember correctly though you don't get the cute "endure and survive" from Joel if you do it that way because I think that only happens if there aren't any enemies left
A pretty cool detail I noticed is Joe must really want those guns because he didn’t even have a cup of coffee and clearly he loves coffee because in the second game the last interaction Ellie and Joel have together he talks about how he gets a cup of coffee from trading somebody that went through the town and he was embarrassed of what he traded for it
It would've been cool to see Ellie have a fear of winter in Part 2, I hope we see her again in the 3rd game dealing with all the trauma she's suffered over the previous 2 games & hopefully see try to overcome it. I love Ellie's character, but you can't have a character without some meaningful progression
This was beautiful. Thank you for creating it! The essay, the delivery, the editing, and the chosen moments to count were perfect. The two games together are like a great volume of literature that we were lucky enough to be alive for their publication. It leaves an indelible mark on us that we're glad of and seek community around as well as feeling deeply personal to each of us. And like great literature or cinema, they continue to give with new discoveries of character, moments, gameplay, and themes. A great example is how you pointed out that the game begins and ends with playing as Sarah and Ellie, and the first and final shots are their faces. I *knew* that ,but just having you pinpoint it brought a new level of appreciation. We play as the girls in Joel's life, as though we play the middle section to deliver him from one to the other. Another great example: Seeing Joel and Ellie after the dam attack from Tommy's point of view. I always recognized it as the moment when they've completely lost all pretense and are caught in the throes of a father-daughter moment despite their best effort to avoid it. Your insight about Tommy making up his mind then because he sees in Joel something he hasn't in twenty years - that hit me hard. I've always heard his "Damn it..." but you put the button on why.
A small detail I like: after Sam drops the toy after being reprimanded by Henry, if you watch Ellie closely after the cutscene you can see picks it up. Which ties into when she gives it to Sam later. Edit: oh dang he caught it, nice job
This game had my playing for 13 hours non-stop when I first turned it on. I had never, and haven't since, been so immersed in the story of a game. I absolutely hold every game to this standard and this is by far my most favorite game I've ever played.
30:16 I figured I'd mention how Joel gets impaled here in the exact same spot Sarah was shot. Ellie even hurries to his aid the same way he did to Sarah.
As a soon to be father, after my wife and I found out we were pregnant I played these games again. And just the feeling of becoming a parent and the role in which these games portray makes them some of, if not my favorite games ever.
@@averywhitaker3513 no you can see the smoke from the explosion that happened on tv towards the right side of the window, the explosion that you see is just a second one that happened directly after.
@@abdoly1463 news like this is filmed live, sometimes with a small delay of only a few seconds. If the explosion that was on the tele was the source of the smoke, we would have heard and saw it. Because of the fact that the explosion was transmitted, we can reasonably assume that there was no buffer period, so the explosion would have happened maybe 3 or 4 seconds before we saw it on the tele.
@@averywhitaker3513 look at how fast the second explosions fireball turned into smoke, that’s why We don’t see the explosion form the window we just see the remaining smoke, also we do hear an explosion before we turn around and look at the window as soon as the tv screen goes fuzzy. The explosion we Hear before we look at the window isn’t heard from the tv because the sound of the explosion wasn’t captured on the recording equipment quickly enough before being wiped out by the explosion. Edit: I hope what I said makes sense, English isn’t my first language.
@@abdoly1463 it makes sense from a linguistic perspective. The message, however, does not. Audio and video (sound and images) are captured at the same time, and we do not see two explosions, which we would be able to do if there were two. Edit: you can actually hear the difference between a tv and the "real" explosion. The real explosion rattles what sounds like metal sheets around. And also the tv explosion / first explosion cuts off without any reverb, or traveling sound, at exactly the moment the broadcast ends
It could be argued that a very large reason for Bill's tough persona is the reason that Frank died and Bill clearly cared about him. There are logs you can find that shows that Frank hated him. Sad stuff but yeah, breathes so much life into the character even though we don't get to see a lot of him.
Also during winter, if you go to Ellie’s inventory there’s Riles pendant. When you click on it to inspect, Ellie say “I miss you”. There’s also a note directed to Ellie from her mother confirming the story that Ellie’s mother got bit and died that way.
Dude, this is amazing. It's always good to watch things like cinema wins and your channel, because even when something has flaws there's always a reason to love it
We have a Cinema Wins and a Gaming Wins. Now all we’re missing is one for television Also you broke Joel’s choice down in a way I never thought about and it makes so much sense in hindsight. The infected are really at this point in the story no different then encountering a lion , or rabid dog. The chances of you dying in these encounters are high so we put in measures to reduce those chances. Really the only thing preventing humanity from getting back to some semblance of normalcy was humanities own selfishness and greed. The military zones could work if the military officials weren’t all major dickheads who bully and have no problem outright murdering anyone who questions them or steps out of line. Normal people like the hunters enjoy pillaging, raping, and murdering whoever they want. And then by comparison we have Tommy and Maria’s Jackson. A place where children can be children. Families can enjoy their lives and people can just love one another. So yeah Joel saving Ellie was the right choice what came back to haunt him was his ruthlessness coming back to avoid losing Ellie and it cost (nearly) his relationship with Ellie for 4 years and then his life when he just started reconciling with her.
@Spider Rocket - When something like that happens, people really show their true colors. They show and act how they really are and always have been. When there are no laws groups like these form, like the hunters, seraphites ect. They are just bad people and now they can act like it because there are no procautions for their behavior. They won't go to jail in a world like that. These people were always bad, even before the outbreak but they just couldn't act on their "natural bad behavior" because if they did it then before the outbreak , they would have been in prison, so most just pretended their whole lives that they are "good" or normal, when in fact deep down they were always bad . I am certain that, if something like a huge outbreak, where laws disappear because there is no more police, judges, lawyers etc. ever happens in our real world, probably thousands of different groups like those (hunters etc.) who kill, rape and steal would form because then all the people will show their true selves and what they really are like. *EDIT : sorry if I made any mistakes, grammar mistakes, spelling etc. hope that it's still understandable what I wrote, English is not my first language.*
@@ParkerProductions225 what's already a thing? How can we look up something we don't even know what to search for? So what's that thing you're talking about?
@Spider Rocket I agree Joel did nothing wrong. They (Fireflies) litteraly pulled Ellie straight into the surgery after she was unconscious, it's unethical and disgusting that they took her straight to surgery to litteraly KILL her after she was unconscious, and been through so much pain and suffering to even get to them. She even wouldn't be able to at least say goodbye to Joel so that she could at least die in peace knowing that Joel survived in that river and did not drown. But if they would have asked Ellie and she decided not to do it because she wanted to live and have a future with JoeI at Tommy's I am certain that they wouldn't take no for an answer and do it anyway because the fireflies don't care about anyone other than themselves. Fact is that they wouldn't share the cure with the whole world, they just want it for themselves and their own people, no chance that they would share the CURE with anyone else. They are literally responsible for the cordiceps outbreak in the first place, they are terrorists and bad people. They used a bio weapon which was the cordiceps fungus and almost eliminated / killed the whole world. They killed billions of people and didn't even care about any of them! And yet Joel is "the bad guy" for not letting Ellie get killed so that these terrorists can have a cure for only themselves.. I don't get why people don't realise that the fireflies never intended to share the cure with the rest of the world.. Of course they didn't say that to any of these other people who were not fireflies, because finding immune people would be much harder if people knew that the fireflies only want the cure for their own people. *(sorry if some of it is hard to understand, English isn't my first language)*
@@wioi don't feel bad, I understand you perfectly! I think it boils down to, personally, that if they cured themselves, there's a chance they could take some of their own DNA like they wanted to do with Ellie, and make more cures. Then, people would be immune just like them.
You bringing up Ellie’s anxiety tic made me realize that it’s kept all the way through to the second game. The moment that jumps out in my head is when she grabs her finger when she reveals to Dina in the theater that she’s immune. I noticed it but never picked up that it was a recurring choice that Ashley brought. So fucking awesome.
Thank you for pointing out all the subtle details and making me relive this game again. I'm so glad that there's finally a gaming wins channel and that it's run by someone so capable :)
I think it took me a year or so after playing this game on the PS3 to realize Nolan North was David. That’s what I admire about Voice actors is their range in roles they take. Whether it’s Troy Baker’s Gruff, Texan voice as Joel or Nolan’s take as a creepy cannibal
I'd say do Detroit: Beyond Human, but with all the branching storylines, that would be quite a challenge. Maybe do some Final Fantasy instead. There's plenty to cover.
I was just going to mention doing Detroit: Beyond Human. I agree, the story and each branching moment and event is HUGE. Definitely a challenge but I think he would love the game
its so weird how much Joel reminds me of my dad and this similarity just makes me connect with Joel and Ellie so much more. like literally the moment when Joel got stabbed by the pole, I sobbed for so long but if my dad was in that moment, I probably would've screamed and cried so much harder.
@@jamesknowles.3552 eh, gameplay in Part 1 is kinda weak, but story makes up for it. Story in Part 2 is a bit messy, but gameplay is vastly improved. It’s kinda funny that they swapped.
@@zerotohero1483 I agree with this heavily. But as a sequel to a game that was carried by its story, I expect a better story but the gameplay is definitely much better and more polished
@@jasonalv7436 understandable. But the focus in a video game is a gameplay. For a sequel, the most important thing is to innovate on the gameplay from the original. That is a necessity for a video game sequel.
@@zerotohero1483 That is true but TLOU 2 doubled down on the story which was the main focus of the first game. I'm pretty sure no one who loves the first game ever said it had the best gameplay or stuff like that but they do talk about the story a lot. A game that was known for its gameplay like Doom, DMC, Hitman etc needs to improve on their gameplay in the sequel because they are all known for their gameplay and not the story. Imagine if DMC 5 doubled down on the gameplay but the story is very well written? A good portion of their fan base would be very pissed I'm sure. Going into TLOU 2, I didn't expect the best gameplay ever but rather a captivating story with memorable characters filled with great pacing and phenomenal visuals and I got only 1 of that.
I'm really glad that it isn't just me who considers the prologue to be Joel's worst recurring nightmare. I have a feeling he also dreams about it at the safehouse with Ellie later which is why he gets so salty about her commenting on the watch she gave him.
The way this video ended was beautiful, don't think one could wrap up the last of us any better. I could always come back to this and appreciate life a little hit more each time. Thank you
Ellie "wanted" to learn to swim, learn to play guitar, and go wherever Joel picked for them to go. She explicitly, unambiguously, and unequivocally expected to be leaving that hospital alive. Anybody arguing that she had said or done anything that a reasonable or moral person could interpret as "explicit informed consent to lethal medical research" is a gd moron. The Fireflies chose death if by no other reason not letting her wake up and tell them. That is, of course, ignoring the fallacy that a 14 year old is competent to give that consent - what's relevant is they didn't want to ask her because if she had said no St. Jerry would have ordered her strapped to the table and pulled her brain out screaming if that was what was necessary (because "you do whatever it takes to get it done")
To be fair, the change happens after the winter chapter......especially when she says, it can't all be for nothing. Though I do agree she should have been woken and given a choice....but I think she would have agreed to it.
@@75ur15 Perhaps she would have. But by not waking her up and asking, the ability to make that choice is robbed from her, making the 'It's what she'd want' argument invalid. If Marlene is so sure that this is what Ellie would want, why not wake her and ask her, just in case?
@@EclecticallyEccentric same thing can be said about Joel, if he was sure she’d want to be saved by him and not sacrificed for the cure, then why didn’t he just tell her the truth about what happened?
@@dangding7378 he didnt know that? no one knew apart from ellie, and she didnt even get to make that choice. he didnt save her bc he thought she didnt want to die, he saved her bc she didnt get to choose, and for other obvious reasons.
20:15 If you clear out the tunnel near the end of the game with the 2 bloaters Joel will say endure and survive. Pretty nice little touch that not everyone will get to hear since they likely just snuck through to save supplies and resources.
I remember my first playthrough of this game and seeing Henry kill himself for the first time. Being that I'm the oldest among my other siblings, I feel obligated to protect and make good impressions for them. So when I saw Henry shoot his brother, blame himself for letting his brother turn, then shooting himself, I couldn't help but picture myself in that same situation and wondering if I would break too in that moment. I literally had to stop playing and recollect myself because that scene hurt. My little brother specifically is a pain in the ass but in the end of the day he's still my brother and although he may doubt it, I love him, my baby brother and my sister so much.
i loved joels choice in the end because it was the one that fitted him. be honest, if joel just left the hospital, would he even be the man he grew to be with ellie? his daughter died, and i would like to believe that if any dad had a second choice, they would save their daughter again. the end is perfect because it IS wrong. like GamingWins said, it is all about love and the way it warps us. this is truly my favorite game of all time, thank you naughty dog
Not going to lie.. I used to play this game on repeat when it came out. I was barely 16-17 at the time and just thought it was a gritty game that was alright. Then I became a father to my oldest son a few years later. Then I replayed this game at about 21... That opening broke me thinking about what I would do if that was my child in my arms knowing that I was powerless. Really, really, really made me feel bad for Joel and paint his dark side throughout the rest of the game because once you live through something like that it would break any parent.
The ending recap of the video had me tearing up because it’s made me reflect on how difficult life can be especially when you go through traumatic loss. Really reminded me of me losing my mom to cancer at 10 and how that’s had a big toll on my life still to this day
same interrogation happens in TLOU2 with Tommy trying to get the gate code, and Ellie knows exactly what happened and it was Tommy, cause Joel must have told her after they returned to Jackson in part 1
Blasphemous statement incoming but I love The Last of Us and The Last of Us: Part II equally. Both gave me two of the best gaming experiences I ever had, and I'll never forget either!!! Also great video bro!!! I love it. I'm so happy that you gained a greater appreciation for Part II by replaying the first.
I agree. Haven't played the games myself, and I had a hard time liking the last of us 2, but after watching a few videos and opinion s about it I could understand the masterpiece that the game is
In my first playthrough of The Last Of Us at the end when I put my controller down and really reflected on the game it truly resonated with me. It became my favorite game just like that through its characters, music, story, and visuals. I love this game so much. When finishing The Last Of Us Part 2 it took longer for me to reflect on that game. I was at odds with it in the beginning but I've grown to love and accept it. Everything that happened in it while harsh and unforgiving is realistic un the world it takes place in. I feel it to be a true successor to the first.
Feel free to like what you like, nothing is wrong with an individual’s personal perspective, opinions, and experiences as such things are subjective in nature. Some forget this and attempt to dehumanize those that don’t share their perspective, but ultimately it’s completely fine to possess an opinion that is contrary to others and shouldn’t be considered as blasphemous. I personally greatly enjoyed the first game and the narrative it had spun, but didn’t quite like how things were taken with the sequel, that’s just my own experiences and preferences manifesting, and I’m pleased that you were able to find what I couldn’t in the second game and enjoy it just as much as the first. Should you, by chance, read this, then I wish you the best of luck as well as a pleasant day or night.
‘Normal people that scare me…’ could be 2 wins; Ellie not only recognizing Joel as messed up but his saying this to Joel when he may know a ‘normal’ soldier killed his daughter and Joel stays silent. ((While Ellie says ‘huh?…’)) great story telling LOU
This game brought me more tears right from the begining. The way Ellie and Joel bonded was amazing. The last 4 minutes of this video was the best part. Really nice reflection that others would have not talked :)
Honestly, I'm really glad to have found a TH-cam channel that's the equivalent of Cinema Wins, but for video games! You break stuff down really well, too. You've earned my subscription. :)
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Hey everyone! Sorry for no warning. There are massive spoilers for The Last of Us Part 2 in here!!
Can u do god of war 4 it's one of my favorite games and I would love to see u react to it
i love this game and 5 april was my brithday so gamingwins thanks for nice present XD
Thank god I read this before watching... see ya.
Welp...I didn't see this comment til after...Fuck.
Bill don't like dudes. He had a whole family that was shown in The Last of US II.
Henry took a liver punch from a protagonist and ate that shit like it was protein.
You need to rely on your fists a lot in the harder difficulty modes to save ammo.
@@DabisDinerDelivery Abby must’ve beaten TLOU on grounded like17 times then
@@terablespeler Abby ate Ellie's fingers for the protein
@@JaredLetoNo1Fan omfg I love this comment thread so much I laughed so hard
@@terablespeler or probably found some expired steroids at a CVS or something.
oh my god i love the detail of Robert suggesting going against the fireflies to steal something back from them and Tess and Joel immediately brush it off as idiotic and then at the end of the game that’s what Joel does. i’ve never noticed that before it’s amazing
All on his own 😳
@@MidnightIX that makes him more badass
"Sam's got a bit of a crush."
I got some bad news for him
🤣
She doesn’t like Asians
@@josrph5124 Sam's Black...
@@Archangel100 😮
@@Archangel100 but the joke is from the 2nd game where Ellie is talking to Jesse and she says he’s not her type and he mistakes it for his race but she tells him that she just doesn’t like guys
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This part made me swell up with tears, Joel saying " Oh baby girl.. " in a sincere way of making her feel ok in his arms make me cry so much.
That’s also what he called Sarah which made it sadder for me
Sarah literally defended Joel. It was HER body and HER gift to him(the watch) that saved his life when they were shot at, i love that
They both got hit by bullets but Joel was strong
@@FitWitScience I didn't think he got shot in the game? I know he was in the show but thats different lol
@@chattycatty3336I think he was... the way he grunted right when shots were fired, before they started rowling down, at least to me always sounded like he got wounded. They never showed any blood tho.
@@caimanaraujo479 oh okay fair enough, I remember him crawlimg to sarah, and I guess I assumed he would be steugglimg alot more if he had been shot lol, but either way 😂
@@chattycatty3336Once they get shot Joel has turned and started running already, so for Sarah to be shot where she was, Joel had to get hit first.
I’ve been shot twice, one I didn’t even notice through the adrenaline and the other put me on my ass so hard I thought I was blown up. There are several places you can be wounded and it’s not only not lethal, in an intense situation you won’t even notice it. It’s why the first thing you do after a firefight ends as a team leader in an infantry squad is physically check the guys under you for wounds. Good practice to have them check you after as well.
5.56 is also a 20 caliber bullet, just like .22, so it is a very small round, high velocity and meant for penetration. It doesn’t deal the same kind of impact trauma other larger calibers deal, it needs to hit vital areas or shatter bones in order to be effective. Otherwise it just penetrates straight through doing minimal damage for a rifle round.
"Joel doesn't shoot dogs, so you know he's a good person, right?"
John Wick: Amen to that.
I know I'm late but I now think that John Wick and Joel are the same person just in two different timelines.
You know that clementine in the the telltale series walking dead season 2 could kill a dog
@@rdclips3647 I mean it did attack her at least she put it out of its misery
@@weirdoodee1216 that was optional tho
Ellie on the other hand….
10:48 Tess: “We’re almost done. Stay focused.” This takes on a whole new meaning upon a second play through. Tess knows she’s been bitten at this point and the clock is literally ticking down until she loses her mind to the infection but if she can get Ellie to the Fireflies who are waiting at the Capital, her sacrifice might not be in vain. She’s speaking to herself as much as Joel.
Ikr. Fr that moment onward you could feel a subtle shift in Tess' overall demeanor as she becomes more notably no-nonsense and straightforward like she's tense and worried, which we later find out why. Noticed this even on my first playthrough.
Fun fact!
Nadji Jeter, who performs as Miles Morales in the PS4 Spider-Man universe, voices Sam!
Just found that out!🤯
Ikr right same just now! For whatever reason my mind just had a hunch it was him even before he spoke in this video, I guess from remembering some of his lines
I thought he sounded familiar
Woah
How tf did I not realize that
Dude, i played both these games and didnt realise. That’s absolutely fucking amazing
43:20
I just played through this part again recently and I noticed one of the eye sight test charts in a side room actually says
“You’re almost there, don’t quit”
And damn that lines up beautifully with Joel carrying Ellie out of there
The amazing casting of Ashley Johnson as Ellie was a freaking match made in heaven. Ashley literally puts everything of herself in that role that, if you get to know mare about Ashley through interviews and her improv on Critical Role it’s so easy to see Ashley in all that Ellie does. The entire cast does amazing but I feel like Ellie would be an entirely different character and not the one we know ad love had Ashley not been cast.
Random small detail I loved: aside from the first kill, Tess consistently "double-taps" when shooting someone in the head, despite the scarcity of ammo. That's something you have to do in-game to kill clickers quickly, if not by stealth. It both reflects her ruthless survival instinct and informs the player.
I’ve noticed that basically all of the side characters double tap during the non playable sections/cutscenes for example Dina does in part 2 in the subway and whilst killing the clicker in front of her when Ellie was pinned by rubble in the supermarket , tess does when saving Joel from the clicker and when she kills Robert, and Riley does when saving Ellie from the runner that bit her in left behind.. it’s a pretty neat detail in both games and the dlc
Abby does not double tap tho, thank god
"even people that dont like games can enjoy this."
you are right..my dad kinda hates gaming and still he would run into my room when hearing gunshots just to see whats happening next.
edit: i realised why i like playing as joel so much. because he looks just like my dad
Love your username and wallpaper.
Long Live the Knot.
AWWW THATS SO 😭😭😭😭 IM GONNA CRY
I'm going to try and get my dad to play through it soon, started it a while ago but he's been busy, pretty sure he enjoyed what he saw so far
THATS SO SWEEET AHHHHWHWWWWWW p r o t e c t y o u r e d ad f or me a n d e v e r y o n e i n t h i s d a m n e d w o r l d
As soon as i read your comment, he said that line lmao
25:25 hurts worse when you realize Henry is talking to himself and not Joel
Facts the only reason why he pointed the gun at Joel was to stop him from killing himself. It’s sad knowing that he was gonna end it once he lost someone he loved and cared about
And Joel knows it too. Once Henry starts saying “it’s all your fault” over again you can see Joel let his guard down because he knows that Henry is no longer really aiming at him. He knows exactly what Henry is about to do because he’s been there himself. Ever thought about the moments right after it cuts to the opening credits?
Dude this scene absolutely crushes me and then Joel's facial expression when Henry shoots himself is just heartbreaking.
22:33 I love thats he says "oh a blueberry hurt you?" It adds another layer of realism
29:54 another detail(win?): Being a singer was actually Troy Baker's childhood dream, and being an astronaut was Ashley Johnson's
10:26 You can see that Tess is slowly coming to terms with her infection. It's the first time we see her fade out of the present and show some vulnerability. It's very sad. I love the detail in this series.
When Joel gets hurt, you can hear Ellie gasp.
Edit: idk what happened but sorry for causing an argument
I think all of us were too busy gasping ourselves that we didnt notice xd
I play this more than 5 times never got that. Even in grounded mode
Never noticed that!!
@@Steffiiiz true
@@insid3493 anyone got a timestamp??
Goddamnit. Every damn time. Sarah’s death scene always manages to hit me with the same intensity. I’ve played this game so many times, but that scene never gets old.
Following order
@@fedra5873 and that’s why you got capped by tommy
Joel was such a good character, I really feel bad for what happened to him in the sequel...
I think playing this again just before playing the new one made his death feel so much worse.
he was yes, but just think about all the people he killed
@@tarandeepsingh6766 what goes around comes around
@@tarandeepsingh6766 so did everyone else in that world.
@@tarandeepsingh6766 he almost always killed in self defence or for a reason tho. For instance that one guy who gave Ellie the rifle ( I forget his name ) was mad at him for killing a bunch of his men but they attacked him? He couldn't leave the hospital because they blocked him off.
30:41 I love how Ellie gets rocked with the pipe and just still manages to kill him
Bro i felt that shit got her shit rocked still and walked it off
it`s kinda poetic that joel had a fatal wound in the same zone as sarah and she died but he survived to have a redo ,also great beginning for a great story ,good music/visuals and voice acting
Well, he had more space for the rebar to miss vitals and the bullet probably "bounced" in Sarah and didn't exit. Same zone, very different wounds.
Fun fact when joel died in part 2 he told him to get up and when he almost died in part 1 before changing chapters when he fell she said to him the same thing
I wish I had a ps4 so I could play both, some amazing games and spiderman ps4 I wish I could play them on pc
@@KennethSee bullets dont bounce inside wounds. They can fragment and tumble, but wont bounce. Thats a myth thats been disproven many times. More than likely she died primarily of shock, as the velocity of a 5.56 is very extreme and in some instances can put someone directly into shock especially with how small she is.
@@TheMedicinalSpoon also, given how small she was, the bullet could’ve hit many vital organs at once, whereas Joel is much larger, so his organs are also larger, meaning that the rebar couldn’t do more than impaling one or slightly damage two.
I kind of can't believe you didn't Win when Ellie is talking with Joel about losing Sarah and she says "I'm sorry, Joel" and he replies, "It's okay, Ellie." Both line deliveries are just so perfect and really juxtapose their conversation in the farmhouse (when Joel tells Ellie she's on "mighty thin ice" for mentioning the same topic. Good video though! Almost forgot how much I absolutely love this game.
After YEARS of playing i just noticed you can hear ellie gasp at 30:20
Another detail in this game that I realized is idk if Elle realized she had to die because she talked about having plans with Joel like all they doing was taking blood so that lets u know Marlene didn’t tell her nothing
That’s what I thought. Marlene said “it’s what she would’ve wanted” yet Ellie didn’t know she would have to die to give the cure. We don’t know if Ellie would’ve wanted to die to give the cure. Also couldn’t they have just biopsied her brain instead of taking it all???
@@makenna6374 yea that’s flaw for I feel humans when they had a normal world didn’t have the technology or resources to create such a cure but the game wants me to believe a group like the firefly’s are competent enough to make one in a apocalypse
@@dancarli8639 not just make it then you have to mass produce it and deliver it its was false hope from the start and at the point where joel comes to them i think theyre less then a 100 man at best it wasnt possible for them to "save" the world imo even if they did all that would they sell it or give it then what if people try and take it from them we see how hard it is to travel how would they go on and distribute it to the while USA
@@francisforant yea good point there would so many ppl trying to steal that cure for good or bad reasons it would be ridiculous also idk if the cure would be permanent if not I would have to keeping making one every year because the fungi evolves so idk if they can do that
@@makenna6374i feel like most medical experts have died and people theorize that the nurses wouldve had to kill her anyways bc theyre college droppouts thus not knowing how to keep her alive
Small detail that i love that is missed by so many is the Snellen test chart (letter chart) at around 40.15 that says "RUN YOUR NEARLY THERE" as you run with Ellie in your arms
"by the looks of it you could lose some of that food" DAMNNNNN ELLIE
Bill got roasted by Ellie so bad🤣
"Oh, look at the cute little bunny!"
*Ellie shoots it*
"Oh."
Legitimately my favourite part of the video because it's so funny to me.
Oh ho 🤭
I don't know if you've seen it but there's a clip of a girl playing TLOU; she sees the bunny and says "That's the cutest bunny I've ever seen" millisecond before it gets shot. I felt bad about laughing at her agonized cry!
I think just about every TLOU fan has seen that clip
“That’s the cutest fucking thing i’ve ever seen in my entire life”
*SWOOOOP*
“AHAUGH!”
Its like ellie’s “oh”
I just realized that Ellies most traumatic moment (probably not but this is what we've seen) is in Winter of this game and winter of the second game.
The cold just can’t leave that girl alone, damn.
Damn I never realized that. Every time winter comes around she’s gonna be like “welp, guess it’s that time of year. Gotta go through another life-altering traumatic event 🤷♀️”
Also, hidden win, that fungus you see during the opening credits was, according to Troy, actually practical. They shot it on microscopic cameras
23:51 wow I never realized that 🤯 Glad you touched on how Joel and Tess’s relationship was never explicitly shown, just hinted at. Just think, Tess made Joel continue the journey he didn’t want to do; he didn’t want to go down that road because of his past with Sarah, but everything eventually fell into place. Tess was just the one to give him that push. No characters wasted in this game. Everyone has their role.
They seriously need to make a prequel game of the 20 year blank period. Joel meeting Tess and how their relationship grew, Tommy and Joel’s rough road they went through, the birth of the Fireflies...
ohhh a sequel to the 20 year gap would be so interesting!! I feel like bringing back Tess and/or being able to play her would also be intriguing. I’ve always heard of people talking about sequels for tlou2 following Ellie or Abby, or Joel and Tommy’s journeys, but not much about Tess until your comment.
Naughty dog truly created a masterpiece
And hella more
If only they could have done it again.
Honestly I don't see it as a masterpiece but to me it was an amazing game what is one of the best that I ever played gameplay and story wise it was phenomenal honestly the fact that does have flaws is one of the ways that it reminds me that Perfection should never put the sought out I think it's flaws shows that it's Beautiful Moments or even more just in general makes it feel where's the play through and luckily it didn't fly too close to the Sun
It’s a shame it’s successor was a disgrace
Naughty dog always does this
38:13 fun fact: that "last gauntlet" of infected can be done completely stealthily, if you have the patience to do so. It would have been near impossible to do that section on grounded difficulty (with the 2 or 3 bloaters + 10-20 other infected they give you there) if you couldn't do it stealthily. If I remember correctly though you don't get the cute "endure and survive" from Joel if you do it that way because I think that only happens if there aren't any enemies left
I thought you had to kill all of them
I tried to run past but always got killed
A pretty cool detail I noticed is Joe must really want those guns because he didn’t even have a cup of coffee and clearly he loves coffee because in the second game the last interaction Ellie and Joel have together he talks about how he gets a cup of coffee from trading somebody that went through the town and he was embarrassed of what he traded for it
I still wanna know what it was
@@HaydrogenBomb guns i guess
@@IkanaMaskedMan Why would he be embarrassed for trading guns?
Or probably because there's no coffee in his house
@@zul6227 lol imagine the whole plot of the game Joel just wanted some coffee😂
I hardly even know this series and Joel calling Ellie "babygirl" got me tearing up.
27:43 She’s so cute. Her excitedly rambling on reminds me of Brooklyn 99 when Jake was on Blizz and was talking to the warden
The surgeon who said “You fucking animal.” is Laura Bailey, or at least it sounds like it, and well, she voiced/acted Abby.
25:14 I feel like Henry is talking about himself and how it is his fault for what happened to Sam
That's what I thought too. Henry's in shock at what just happened and what he just did and couldn't process it.
20:13 I love how she said "Endure and survive" right before giving him a med kit
31:08 *crying* that is the cutest thing I've ever seen
*arrow hits rabbit*
*cry squeal*
It would've been cool to see Ellie have a fear of winter in Part 2, I hope we see her again in the 3rd game dealing with all the trauma she's suffered over the previous 2 games & hopefully see try to overcome it. I love Ellie's character, but you can't have a character without some meaningful progression
I don't think there's going to be a 3rd game but it's a nice thought
@@grindyussy_9326There’ll probably be a third game, just not for a awhile.
@@grindyussy_9326 of course there will.
She’s gonna have an overwhelming fear of cannibalism, fungi and golf
coming back after they pretty much announced a third game❤
This was beautiful. Thank you for creating it! The essay, the delivery, the editing, and the chosen moments to count were perfect. The two games together are like a great volume of literature that we were lucky enough to be alive for their publication. It leaves an indelible mark on us that we're glad of and seek community around as well as feeling deeply personal to each of us. And like great literature or cinema, they continue to give with new discoveries of character, moments, gameplay, and themes.
A great example is how you pointed out that the game begins and ends with playing as Sarah and Ellie, and the first and final shots are their faces. I *knew* that ,but just having you pinpoint it brought a new level of appreciation. We play as the girls in Joel's life, as though we play the middle section to deliver him from one to the other.
Another great example: Seeing Joel and Ellie after the dam attack from Tommy's point of view. I always recognized it as the moment when they've completely lost all pretense and are caught in the throes of a father-daughter moment despite their best effort to avoid it. Your insight about Tommy making up his mind then because he sees in Joel something he hasn't in twenty years - that hit me hard. I've always heard his "Damn it..." but you put the button on why.
A small detail I like: after Sam drops the toy after being reprimanded by Henry, if you watch Ellie closely after the cutscene you can see picks it up. Which ties into when she gives it to Sam later.
Edit: oh dang he caught it, nice job
This game had my playing for 13 hours non-stop when I first turned it on. I had never, and haven't since, been so immersed in the story of a game. I absolutely hold every game to this standard and this is by far my most favorite game I've ever played.
same thing for me ... i bought the game ... sit on the couch ... and holy shit i was gone ... for so many hours ..it was THAT GOOD
30:16
I figured I'd mention how Joel gets impaled here in the exact same spot Sarah was shot. Ellie even hurries to his aid the same way he did to Sarah.
As a soon to be father, after my wife and I found out we were pregnant I played these games again. And just the feeling of becoming a parent and the role in which these games portray makes them some of, if not my favorite games ever.
Fun fact:
20:07 when Joel says "Oh good. Something else you can drive me crazy with."
The subtitles in the game say "..you can annoy me with."
At the start of the game, an explosion plays on the tv before it happens in "real life"
@@averywhitaker3513 no you can see the smoke from the explosion that happened on tv towards the right side of the window, the explosion that you see is just a second one that happened directly after.
@@abdoly1463 news like this is filmed live, sometimes with a small delay of only a few seconds. If the explosion that was on the tele was the source of the smoke, we would have heard and saw it. Because of the fact that the explosion was transmitted, we can reasonably assume that there was no buffer period, so the explosion would have happened maybe 3 or 4 seconds before we saw it on the tele.
@@averywhitaker3513 look at how fast the second explosions fireball turned into smoke, that’s why We don’t see the explosion form the window we just see the remaining smoke, also we do hear an explosion before we turn around and look at the window as soon as the tv screen goes fuzzy. The explosion we Hear before we look at the window isn’t heard from the tv because the sound of the explosion wasn’t captured on the recording equipment quickly enough before being wiped out by the explosion.
Edit: I hope what I said makes sense, English isn’t my first language.
@@abdoly1463 it makes sense from a linguistic perspective. The message, however, does not. Audio and video (sound and images) are captured at the same time, and we do not see two explosions, which we would be able to do if there were two.
Edit: you can actually hear the difference between a tv and the "real" explosion. The real explosion rattles what sounds like metal sheets around. And also the tv explosion / first explosion cuts off without any reverb, or traveling sound, at exactly the moment the broadcast ends
Your conclusion of this actually had me crying. Thank you.
Same.
I just love Bill, he brought the comedy 😂
It could be argued that a very large reason for Bill's tough persona is the reason that Frank died and Bill clearly cared about him. There are logs you can find that shows that Frank hated him. Sad stuff but yeah, breathes so much life into the character even though we don't get to see a lot of him.
Also during winter, if you go to Ellie’s inventory there’s Riles pendant. When you click on it to inspect, Ellie say “I miss you”. There’s also a note directed to Ellie from her mother confirming the story that Ellie’s mother got bit and died that way.
Dude, this is amazing. It's always good to watch things like cinema wins and your channel, because even when something has flaws there's always a reason to love it
Everyone who came here with both games behind their experience, came here with optimism.
We have a Cinema Wins and a Gaming Wins. Now all we’re missing is one for television
Also you broke Joel’s choice down in a way I never thought about and it makes so much sense in hindsight. The infected are really at this point in the story no different then encountering a lion , or rabid dog. The chances of you dying in these encounters are high so we put in measures to reduce those chances. Really the only thing preventing humanity from getting back to some semblance of normalcy was humanities own selfishness and greed. The military zones could work if the military officials weren’t all major dickheads who bully and have no problem outright murdering anyone who questions them or steps out of line. Normal people like the hunters enjoy pillaging, raping, and murdering whoever they want. And then by comparison we have Tommy and Maria’s Jackson. A place where children can be children. Families can enjoy their lives and people can just love one another. So yeah Joel saving Ellie was the right choice what came back to haunt him was his ruthlessness coming back to avoid losing Ellie and it cost (nearly) his relationship with Ellie for 4 years and then his life when he just started reconciling with her.
I think that's already a thing, look it up on youtube, I'm sure you'll find it
@Spider Rocket - When something like that happens, people really show their true colors. They show and act how they really are and always have been. When there are no laws groups like these form, like the hunters, seraphites ect. They are just bad people and now they can act like it because there are no procautions for their behavior. They won't go to jail in a world like that. These people were always bad, even before the outbreak but they just couldn't act on their "natural bad behavior" because if they did it then before the outbreak , they would have been in prison, so most just pretended their whole lives that they are "good" or normal, when in fact deep down they were always bad . I am certain that, if something like a huge outbreak, where laws disappear because there is no more police, judges, lawyers etc. ever happens in our real world, probably thousands of different groups like those (hunters etc.) who kill, rape and steal would form because then all the people will show their true selves and what they really are like. *EDIT : sorry if I made any mistakes, grammar mistakes, spelling etc. hope that it's still understandable what I wrote, English is not my first language.*
@@ParkerProductions225 what's already a thing? How can we look up something we don't even know what to search for? So what's that thing you're talking about?
@Spider Rocket I agree Joel did nothing wrong. They (Fireflies) litteraly pulled Ellie straight into the surgery after she was unconscious,
it's unethical and disgusting that they took her straight to surgery to litteraly KILL her after she was unconscious, and been through so much pain and suffering to even get to them. She even wouldn't be able to at least say goodbye to Joel so that she could at least die in peace knowing that Joel survived in that river and did not drown. But if they would have asked Ellie and she decided not to do it because she wanted to live and have a future with JoeI at Tommy's I am certain that they wouldn't take no for an answer and do it anyway because the fireflies don't care about anyone other than themselves. Fact is that they wouldn't share the cure with the whole world, they just want it for themselves and their own people, no chance that they would share the CURE with anyone else. They are literally responsible for the cordiceps outbreak in the first place, they are terrorists and bad people. They used a bio weapon which was the cordiceps fungus and almost eliminated / killed the whole world. They killed billions of people and didn't even care about any of them! And yet Joel is "the bad guy" for not letting Ellie get killed so that these terrorists can have a cure for only themselves.. I don't get why people don't realise that the fireflies never intended to share the cure with the rest of the world.. Of course they didn't say that to any of these other people who were not fireflies, because finding immune people would be much harder if people knew that the fireflies only want the cure for their own people. *(sorry if some of it is hard to understand, English isn't my first language)*
@@wioi don't feel bad, I understand you perfectly! I think it boils down to, personally, that if they cured themselves, there's a chance they could take some of their own DNA like they wanted to do with Ellie, and make more cures. Then, people would be immune just like them.
You bringing up Ellie’s anxiety tic made me realize that it’s kept all the way through to the second game. The moment that jumps out in my head is when she grabs her finger when she reveals to Dina in the theater that she’s immune. I noticed it but never picked up that it was a recurring choice that Ashley brought. So fucking awesome.
One detail I love is how they show the cannibal group are scared of Joel, calling him a crazy man and running away from him when he first gets up
Thank you for pointing out all the subtle details and making me relive this game again.
I'm so glad that there's finally a gaming wins channel and that it's run by someone so capable :)
I only just realised why that first Pittsburgh chapter is called "Alone and Forsaken", nice
That speech at the end was amazing especially for the people who have experienced similar things though covid
I think it took me a year or so after playing this game on the PS3 to realize Nolan North was David. That’s what I admire about Voice actors is their range in roles they take. Whether it’s Troy Baker’s Gruff, Texan voice as Joel or Nolan’s take as a creepy cannibal
19:21 did she just say "let go of me chicken shit"
37:30 kindred burned that line into my mind, "beauty fades, that is why it is beautiful"
joels death hit me so hard considering he is the one you play the most in part 1
I'd say do Detroit: Beyond Human, but with all the branching storylines, that would be quite a challenge.
Maybe do some Final Fantasy instead. There's plenty to cover.
I was just going to mention doing Detroit: Beyond Human. I agree, the story and each branching moment and event is HUGE. Definitely a challenge but I think he would love the game
its so weird how much Joel reminds me of my dad and this similarity just makes me connect with Joel and Ellie so much more. like literally the moment when Joel got stabbed by the pole, I sobbed for so long but if my dad was in that moment, I probably would've screamed and cried so much harder.
i just noticed that ellie actually says "sorry" before stabbing a fedra guard in the leg at 9:05
Hell yeah! This is gonna be a fun to watch back to back with Part 2
Indeed
@@jamesknowles.3552 eh, gameplay in Part 1 is kinda weak, but story makes up for it. Story in Part 2 is a bit messy, but gameplay is vastly improved. It’s kinda funny that they swapped.
@@zerotohero1483 I agree with this heavily. But as a sequel to a game that was carried by its story, I expect a better story but the gameplay is definitely much better and more polished
@@jasonalv7436 understandable. But the focus in a video game is a gameplay. For a sequel, the most important thing is to innovate on the gameplay from the original. That is a necessity for a video game sequel.
@@zerotohero1483 That is true but TLOU 2 doubled down on the story which was the main focus of the first game. I'm pretty sure no one who loves the first game ever said it had the best gameplay or stuff like that but they do talk about the story a lot.
A game that was known for its gameplay like Doom, DMC, Hitman etc needs to improve on their gameplay in the sequel because they are all known for their gameplay and not the story. Imagine if DMC 5 doubled down on the gameplay but the story is very well written? A good portion of their fan base would be very pissed I'm sure. Going into TLOU 2, I didn't expect the best gameplay ever but rather a captivating story with memorable characters filled with great pacing and phenomenal visuals and I got only 1 of that.
Been waiting for you to be back mate. Good to see this today
gamingwins making a last of us video "this little maneuver is gonna cost us 75 years
I'm really glad that it isn't just me who considers the prologue to be Joel's worst recurring nightmare. I have a feeling he also dreams about it at the safehouse with Ellie later which is why he gets so salty about her commenting on the watch she gave him.
The way this video ended was beautiful, don't think one could wrap up the last of us any better. I could always come back to this and appreciate life a little hit more each time. Thank you
oh man, i just realized how much english teachers would love these videos because they analyze literally everything
The conversation between Ellie & Sam after he’s was bitten always gets to me 😢 this game is one of the best I ever played....
This channel is so vastly underrated. Keep up the amazing work my guy
41:37 Ellies Pupils widen and close when she shortly glances in the distance and then refocusing on Joel. Man that attention to detail...
Especially for a game that released 10 years ago.
When he was talking near the hospital, the porch part is a call to margaritaville.
Everything great bout tlou
Ega: puts entire game
Keep up the fantastic work absolutely fantastic
Ellie "wanted" to learn to swim, learn to play guitar, and go wherever Joel picked for them to go. She explicitly, unambiguously, and unequivocally expected to be leaving that hospital alive. Anybody arguing that she had said or done anything that a reasonable or moral person could interpret as "explicit informed consent to lethal medical research" is a gd moron.
The Fireflies chose death if by no other reason not letting her wake up and tell them. That is, of course, ignoring the fallacy that a 14 year old is competent to give that consent - what's relevant is they didn't want to ask her because if she had said no St. Jerry would have ordered her strapped to the table and pulled her brain out screaming if that was what was necessary (because "you do whatever it takes to get it done")
To be fair, the change happens after the winter chapter......especially when she says, it can't all be for nothing. Though I do agree she should have been woken and given a choice....but I think she would have agreed to it.
@@75ur15 Perhaps she would have. But by not waking her up and asking, the ability to make that choice is robbed from her, making the 'It's what she'd want' argument invalid. If Marlene is so sure that this is what Ellie would want, why not wake her and ask her, just in case?
@@EclecticallyEccentric I agree, I said she probably would have agreed, but she should have been given the choice.
@@EclecticallyEccentric same thing can be said about Joel, if he was sure she’d want to be saved by him and not sacrificed for the cure, then why didn’t he just tell her the truth about what happened?
@@dangding7378 he didnt know that? no one knew apart from ellie, and she didnt even get to make that choice. he didnt save her bc he thought she didnt want to die, he saved her bc she didnt get to choose, and for other obvious reasons.
13:05 Joel falling for that trap makes no sense! MY Joel never makes a mistake!
He is still human, not machine, he can be make a mistake like anyone else.
@@lampham5525 I know, I was making a joke about people who hate Last of Us part 2
More believable than “Hi, I’m Joel Miller, I live in Jackson, here take this shot gun, because I trust you completely even though I just met you!”
@@eddiediaz5518 you’ll have to tell me when he said that in the second game bud😂
@@pauloxley7943 that's basically how it felt, it's hyperbolic, not literal
20:15 If you clear out the tunnel near the end of the game with the 2 bloaters Joel will say endure and survive. Pretty nice little touch that not everyone will get to hear since they likely just snuck through to save supplies and resources.
Three bloaters
I remember my first playthrough of this game and seeing Henry kill himself for the first time. Being that I'm the oldest among my other siblings, I feel obligated to protect and make good impressions for them. So when I saw Henry shoot his brother, blame himself for letting his brother turn, then shooting himself, I couldn't help but picture myself in that same situation and wondering if I would break too in that moment. I literally had to stop playing and recollect myself because that scene hurt. My little brother specifically is a pain in the ass but in the end of the day he's still my brother and although he may doubt it, I love him, my baby brother and my sister so much.
Another banger. But who’s surprised?!? Anybody? 👀👀👀
Not I, it's a glorious sight to behold.
i loved joels choice in the end because it was the one that fitted him. be honest, if joel just left the hospital, would he even be the man he grew to be with ellie? his daughter died, and i would like to believe that if any dad had a second choice, they would save their daughter again. the end is perfect because it IS wrong. like GamingWins said, it is all about love and the way it warps us. this is truly my favorite game of all time, thank you naughty dog
Not going to lie.. I used to play this game on repeat when it came out. I was barely 16-17 at the time and just thought it was a gritty game that was alright. Then I became a father to my oldest son a few years later. Then I replayed this game at about 21... That opening broke me thinking about what I would do if that was my child in my arms knowing that I was powerless. Really, really, really made me feel bad for Joel and paint his dark side throughout the rest of the game because once you live through something like that it would break any parent.
The ending recap of the video had me tearing up because it’s made me reflect on how difficult life can be especially when you go through traumatic loss. Really reminded me of me losing my mom to cancer at 10 and how that’s had a big toll on my life still to this day
“Things are only beautiful because they don’t last” goddamn that hit
How have I never heard of this channel before. This just came up on my recommended and now I must watch all.
I love how half of these wins are just laughing at jokes
i wish he winned the cutscene when joel was interrogating the two guys to find where ellie was it shows what joel can be when hes alone
same interrogation happens in TLOU2 with Tommy trying to get the gate code, and Ellie knows exactly what happened and it was Tommy, cause Joel must have told her after they returned to Jackson in part 1
It's really hard to get me to cry but that last conversation dang near made me
Blasphemous statement incoming but I love The Last of Us and The Last of Us: Part II equally. Both gave me two of the best gaming experiences I ever had, and I'll never forget either!!! Also great video bro!!! I love it. I'm so happy that you gained a greater appreciation for Part II by replaying the first.
I agree. Haven't played the games myself, and I had a hard time liking the last of us 2, but after watching a few videos and opinion s about it I could understand the masterpiece that the game is
In my first playthrough of The Last Of Us at the end when I put my controller down and really reflected on the game it truly resonated with me. It became my favorite game just like that through its characters, music, story, and visuals. I love this game so much. When finishing The Last Of Us Part 2 it took longer for me to reflect on that game. I was at odds with it in the beginning but I've grown to love and accept it. Everything that happened in it while harsh and unforgiving is realistic un the world it takes place in. I feel it to be a true successor to the first.
I think none were the best gaming experiences I ever had
Feel free to like what you like, nothing is wrong with an individual’s personal perspective, opinions, and experiences as such things are subjective in nature. Some forget this and attempt to dehumanize those that don’t share their perspective, but ultimately it’s completely fine to possess an opinion that is contrary to others and shouldn’t be considered as blasphemous. I personally greatly enjoyed the first game and the narrative it had spun, but didn’t quite like how things were taken with the sequel, that’s just my own experiences and preferences manifesting, and I’m pleased that you were able to find what I couldn’t in the second game and enjoy it just as much as the first. Should you, by chance, read this, then I wish you the best of luck as well as a pleasant day or night.
@@anarvaresh well said
33:45 that’s the method of interrogation that Ellie mentioned in the second game
15:24 this is the exact position that Abby and Joel have when she shots him at the leg
‘Normal people that scare me…’ could be 2 wins; Ellie not only recognizing Joel as messed up but his saying this to Joel when he may know a ‘normal’ soldier killed his daughter and Joel stays silent. ((While Ellie says ‘huh?…’)) great story telling LOU
This game brought me more tears right from the begining. The way Ellie and Joel bonded was amazing.
The last 4 minutes of this video was the best part. Really nice reflection that others would have not talked :)
The thing about when you die you leave a lasting effect on other people, reminds me about hotline miami 2
Gotta say, you got me with that conclusion. The catastrophe was divorce and a broken family but still just as devastating
Honestly, I'm really glad to have found a TH-cam channel that's the equivalent of Cinema Wins, but for video games! You break stuff down really well, too. You've earned my subscription. :)
38:14 you…just sneak past them. And don’t forget to save one shiv for the last clicker.
The alone and forsaken song is actually the name for that section which I thought was pretty cool 😎