@@justaayan2 don’t know where they got that impression since Fenrir wasn’t present in the first game. It could’ve been any big black wolf especially since Garm is stated to look like a black wolf in Mythos
My cousin's son died last week, and I just finished the main story. The last vision of Faye just hit so hard. "Grief is the culmination of love . . . to grieve deeply is to have loved fully" really got me. I love you, Zack. And I will grieve you deeply.
May your cousin rest peacefully. May you have a fufilling life and so have a great day too, I understand your pain so hopefully luck will go to you and so live a good life don't fall down you are strong enough.
@@PotatoMateYT agreed, and I love Elden Ring. But this game just hits different. It fully connects with places Miyazaki's games only touch with Priscilla, the Lady, and the girl in the painting.
I love how Kratos looks at the arrows he's making. Ancient Greece did not have a high opinion of archery in combat, they saw it as dishonorable but he's still making them because his son is an archer and Norse had a very different opinion of archery.
@@P-man_XD You can go so far to say Archery was considered cowardly for top Greek warriors. As if, only for those who need to ambush without any confidence to face their opponent. Very 'alpha/sigma' grindset for spears and swords.
21:30 It's extra hilarious that if you approach the kettle/kitchen after this cut scene, Sindri will pipe up with "I KNEW you wanted a snack!" from wherever he is in the house 🤣
sad thing after brok dies actually, you can hear sindri's past lines while walking around his home. approach the kitchen *"see, i KNEW you wanted a snack!"*
In the book, Atreus talks about feeling the emotions of animals and other beings. He described kratos as a wall, with only lapses of gigantic emotions leaking out momentarily
@@vandergamer8682 bro read the prior comment. "If he wasnt a wall hed be gow3 all over again". Literally what does that mean. Hed be a genocidal maniac if he didnt have an emotional barrier from his son? Makes zero sense for this depiction of Kratos
Love how in the final Thor fight, each weapon got its own cinematic cutscene highlight. First the Blades of Chaos which he uses to whip back Mjolnir, and then the Draupnir Spear to escape Thor's neck choke, and lastly the final clash with the Axe fittingly. It's also like the Devs are encouraging you to use all of them in this one final fight.
"IT'S ALL CONNECTED MAN," the knife that connects atraus and Kratos so technically they both defeated Thor? Meh, I'm probably looking into it too much.
Kratos walking down the stairs to blow the horn, with the music hitting its peak and the realms all opening, gives me chills every time without fail. My favorite moment out of any game I’ve ever played.
1:09:15 Little Hidden win here you missed. The way Kratos says "Off your back" is a little call back too "A Spartan NEVER let's his back hit the ground. Even in death he stands ready for battle." From GOW Ghost of Sparta.
This game is the first in quite some time to make me cry, not just one tear anything like that but shed tears, Kratos's last farewell to Faye and her line with "open your heart to the world as you have opened it to me and you will find every reason to keep living in it" and when Kratos said "Loki will go, Atreus will stay" made the tears come a flowing😭
And they still get me now. Hell, even the moment Kratos blows the horn manages to get me teary and choked up. But the hug after that quote from Kratos is just too too much...
What broke me the most about Sindri was his appearance after Brok died: He had Brok's blood on his armor the entire game, he started vanishing in front of everyone rather than when he was out of sight, he lost all remorse, and so on. They wrote Sindri so well and it sucks that perfection like this can be so heartbreaking
@@MaxGreen-oe7me I have a different take on it. I don't think he was actually blaming atreus. Not fully. I think that he was trying to push Atreus away. Everyone away. Because he knows if he loses them he'll only feel hurt
The speech this man gave at the end gave me goosebumps “Love deeply, love strongly, find your family. Because after all… what else is there?” Like god damn
50:30 A little detail that I love is that Heimdall initially catches the arrow, but then notices the mud on him and gets pissed off. Why? Because he can’t see little things like that. That’s why the Draupnir Spear is effective since it bypasses his foresight. He can’t keep track it seems of multiple things all at once without some difficulty. Like mud splashing on him…
How did you guys miss the fact that Kratos cuts Heimdall's cheek with the Draupnir ring on that first punch that connected... the spear really was the key to defeating him
That Hole riddle is also a symbol for how Kratos and Atreus took away everything from Sindri, and now he only has a big hole in his heart. Truly the best storytelling game, not even of the year, but ever.
little something to note: At one point Kratos says to mimir "Could the answer be nothing?" or something like that and Mimir just dismisses it even though it was actually really close. I think this shows some level of Mimir overthinking and not being able to see things simply unlike Brok.
Ultimately, Kratos and Atreus didn't take anything from Sindri. Odin took Brok. Sindri did nothing that a friend with his resources shouldn't do when friends are fighting for their lives. And if you think they never gave Sindri anything, they gave him 3 blissful years reunited with his brother by settling their feud. They healed him once. They tried to heal him again. And when that couldn't happen they gave him the only gift that they had left to offer -- a chance at justice against Odin. And each of them gave up their own revenge, even Freya, to someone who while probably not the most deserving of revenge against Odin, was the one who needed it most. The gang was plenty generous with Sindri. He took as much as he gave. He's bitter and fragile and petty and wounded and he's not in a position to see it now but maybe he'll grow someday and put it all together what they did for him.
You know, all the side quests and side stories in this duology are canon events right?, Kratos and Atreus did a *lot* for both Sindri and Brokr in the first game, Kratos and Atreus saves Sindri's life from a dragon attack and help Sindri's for his lots and lots of projects, they all mutually gives and takes
@@hagamapama Agreed Sindri is broken because in a way , I think the devastation isnt that Brok died but his own actions implicitly led to Broks death. he encouraged Atreus to look for Tyr which led to Odin spying on them and eventually faking being Tyr. He invited Kratos and Atreus to live with them in the realm between realms. A lot of the taking he suggests Kratos and Atreus did is help and generosity he offered only this time and its clear when he says now what do I have left , not even my family stems from his pain at doing everything he could to control and keep everyone safe and alive even against their wishes and he couldn't. His inability to let go led to his current feelings. He made a choice for Brok that he had no right making and Brok ended up dying anyways and even when Brok was alive instead of spending time with him, he feuded with him out of a sibling rivalry that took years from time they could have spent together. The scene where Sindri says he doesnt have his family left, I believe thats why Kratos says to him mourn how you wish because he ultimately realizes that Sindris grief and pain wont be solved or talked through , he wants someone to blame , someone to hurt, someone to take his pain out on so he can relieve it the same way Kratos did during the Greek era, he understands this all too well.
That would really cheapen it imo. The whole point of the whole "fate" plotline is that there isn't really a fate or destiny here; it's just the choices that people make being predictable. Having someone else change Kratos' "fate" for him would just take away his own character development and the changes he made to himself by attributing it to someone's manipulations. Not to mention that, when it comes to *actual* fate manipulation of predetermining events, Kratos is the only person in the franchise that's been shown to be immune to it, as stated and shown in the GOW2 novel, as the sisters of fate could not change his destiny or kill him despite even cutting his thread of fate.
@@djrocksgaming6255 i don’t totally disagree that it cheapens it but i find it strange that kratos says that it felt more real than a dream, and Faye says something like hurry kratos there isn’t much time then puts the spell on him.
Battle of asgard, you mean the snatch and grab and destruction of odin right? Spent more time collecting fruit than we did at that so called final battle
@@Spacecowboyy69 ah, another person with unjustified distain towards the final act of the game. you will never see the error in your ways, and that is okay. you will never make a good leader.
@@holyjolias3229 you literally said another person which means I'm not alone, blindly giving a game praise without seeing its flaws is never a good thing, the game was okay but ending was rushed as all hel
@@Spacecowboyy69 you think because your not alone in your unjustified and foolish ass position that it somehow abstains you from your stupidity? that does nothing but prove there's other people as arrogant as you who somehow find flaws in that glorious final battle. it's so blatant how fantastic the final act was that if you can't see it then you need a neurologist.
@@Spacecowboyy69 I agree that they could've spent more time giving us a better finale, a more epic and climatic one, but I'd argue that, as short as it felt, it makes sense, it's a desperate attack, they're out of options, with how strong Asgard's defenses were hyped up to be (with the dwarves being pressured relentlessly to build the machines to destroy the realm towers), I wouldn't have it any other way... The ending looks rushed because, storywise, it IS rushed, it's, again, desperate, but it's given the same meticulous care than the rest of the game... Is it perfect? No, not at all. Does the community give it constant praise without seeing its flaws? Maybe, I just don't think there's enough flaws to be worth bitching about, really. I, myself, see some of its flaws, I hate the hinting dialogue during puzzles, I had a bug in my playthrough that froze Kratos's upper body, the berserks were too simple, too easy to learn their patterns... And, although I see these flaws, they're not enough for me to stop enjoying literally everything else the game has to offer. Why only look at the negatives, when there's so much more to see?
So, Kratos’s theme and, really, the theme for this game’s lyrics translate to tell the tale of Kratos, his state of mind and heart through each portion of the game. Spoilers ahead for the game due to lyric connections: The song speaks of one who destroyed and killed and sees himself as irredeemable but the part when Kratos gives his speech at Tyr’s Temple through when they step through the portal to Asgard, it talks about redemption by needing to trust his son and the capacity for change Kratos has shown. Really touching.
Another detail is that in the first 2 'Faye' dreams he wakes up confused and angry. It's only before he is about to go into battle where he is oddly at peace, finally doing something he is all too familiar with but for a good purpose.
It just hit me that the Norns said that the Norse realms literally have no destinies and nothing is set in stone, the Norns' only ability is that they understand everyone's nature to the point where the entire future is predictable, nothing more. So when Kratos "changed the future," he really was just changing himself to a point that altered the potential choices he and others made.
@@trihermawan9553 From what I can tell the jotnar have the ability to see "events" but their ability to see those whom the events involve and what role they play within them is not infallible, case in point, They prophecize Kratos dying in Atreus's arms, the event is Atreus holding someone apparently dead in his arms, but they were mistaken about who it actually was, since it ended up being Odin, another example was they prophecize Tyr (mentioned by name in their prophecy) leading the armies at Ragnarok with his spear in hand, the event was a good of war leading the armies with a spear, instead of Tyr it ended up being Kratos with Draupnir, another example Surtr was prophecized to bring down Hrimthur's wall after merging with Sinmara and becoming Ragnarok, instead the walls are brought down by Sindri and Surtr becomes Ragnarok not by fusing with Sinmara but because of the energy of the blades and her hearth, so that's my view on it anyway.
1:06:24 Looking at Kratos bare like this really reminds you how good his character design is. Not just because he looks badass, but because he literally wears all of his failures on his body. The scar on his eye and the red tattoos are a reminder of his failure to protect his brother, the white of his skin are the ashes of his previous family that he accidently killed, the scar on his belly was from being manipulated and killed by his father, and the scars on his arms are from his bondage and manipulation from Ares. Whenever he looks at himself, he's just reminded of all the things he's done wrong or failed to do right. It's really sad.
I find it odd no one has linked this to body dismorphia yet. Many people look at their bodies and see someone they'd rather not be, and having a god struggle with an extreme version of this is a real interesting thing to me
@@BigGuy172 I mean. I dunno about that. Body dysmorphia is a little less extreme than what's being seen here lmao. Literal battle scars from traumatising life or death battles are a little heavier than thinking you're too overweight.
I'm going to veer a bit away from the symbolism to say that scene awed me because he actually looks like an older person would when that muscled. It's not just Kratos' head on 23 year old Arnold Schwarzeneggar's body. I don't even know how to describe it, but you can just tell that he's not a young man by just the musculature. Insane attention to detail.
That's what makes the ending Shrine so much better. His complete 180° at the start of Ragnarok, shows his scars are still there but are a sign of wisdom not just his suffering
atreus exiting "stage left" to a piece of rock that looks like a giant's face is honestly what made me cry even HARDER. i interpreted it as faye giving him her blessing to his journey. a way of showing she's always will be there with him
I've seen people mention this a lot but the best part about the buildup of the Heimdall fight is that there is clearly a strategy to what Kratos is doing. First, he's swing with a bunch of normal slow punches to get a sense of Heimdall's speed. Then, he starts moving faster to test his awareness as well as his fighting prowess. Heimdall easily should have counter attacked after he blocked Kratos' attack, which tells Kratos that Heimdall has no real technique for how combat works. So, when he runs in one last time, he does another string of attacks which is blocked, but Kratos' is ready and throws the most basic of counter hits. Block with the left and swing with the right, an attack any fighter would know how to avoid. But Heimdall only relies on his vision, so he gets hit.
1:14:12 A scary thing about these scenes that someone in the comments of a different video pointed out was that these were tests to gauge Heimdall’s skill. The first set of wide strikes were to see how far he can dodge. The second set were to see how fast Kratos had to swing to force connection. The last set was him putting the strikes into action to force a block into a “textbook counter that anyone with real fighting experience should be able to block.” I don’t quite remember everything the comment said, but it just shows how real their difference in skill is.
the 2nd and 3rd attack sequence is literally the same, but during the 3rd kratos outplays heimdall by catching his blocking hand, thus resulting in a satisfying consequent hit
What you said about Ironwood and Atreus getting to be a kid is reinforced by the fact that for all of his life up until that point, he has been surrounded by only these miserable adults(Kratos, Freya, Baldur) and when he meets Angrboda, he meets a kid his age for the first time, he gets to run away from all of his responsibilities and everything, just collecting some food and skipping rocks instead. Which is why I don't mind it
Felt like a trip to Nardia or something fantastical. I didn't mind it at all but I can see where someone can complain about the pacing. Still, I'm sure that was deliberately placed with how Atreus lost track of time getting back before his Dad would get suspicious.
Another detail I've noticed in this game is that right before Sindri tells Atreus to get out of his sight, his eyes shift away from his former partner. It's as if he was reconsidering saying it because deep down, he still loves him and knows that Atreus wasn't the one who killed Brok. But then Sindri immediately discards that reconsideration, as his anger and grief are stronger than his love for his other family members at that moment.
Three things I wanted to mention: Freya and Baldur get some serious parallels in different ways, big and small. First one being when she pulls the world tree branches out in Vanaheim, she looks almost one to one like Baldur did after he punched the mistletoe, both of their curses being broken. Second, Freya says a similar thing to Odin that Baldur said to her, them both referring to how they waited for the exact moment that they got to convey to their tormentor exactly what they had done to them (Baldur to Freya, Freya to Odin), with some differences. Third, both Baldur and Freya come face to face with their past mistakes, with Baldur in Hel seeing how he could've taken his revenge on his mother, and Freya seeing how she (believes) she killed her son. Freya basically played both roles in these games, the torturer to Baldur in 2018, and the tortured in Ragnarök because of Odin. Her arc is by far one of my favorites! Smaller detail that I liked was how when Kratos was punching the wall to build focus, it played his theme, and when it transitions to Atreus doing the same, it goes right into his theme respectively. Love how well the music shows off the independence Atreus has gotten in this game. And jesus, the fight with Heimdallr was GOOD, but more importantly what hit me was that GOW3 Kratos facial expression you can catch when he chokes him out. Scary stuff to see even a fraction of that rage in that expression Thanks for reading if you did.
Back in 2018 the "close your heart to their suffering" quote was something i really took to heart and used in order to become less emotional and disturbed by things and it kinda made me disconnected even though i felt safe doing so. Hearing kratos admit he was wrong and telling boi to do the opposite really hit me. He's so right.
The scene of Kratos telling a story to Atreus before going into Asgard made me cry like a baby. It made me think of my dad reading me stories when I was a kid. And it really just hit me hard.
They really did write Sindri incredibly well in this game. I unfortunately know his pain of losing a brother, and the feeling of emptiness and just falling into a hole.
I REALLY wish he touched on visiting the wedding location for Freya and Odin and how she grew as a character. I know it's not necessarily part of the main plot but GOD DAMN it was heartwarming
Everyone working on this gave it their all, but Sunny definitely gets the “Most Improved Performance.” in my opinion. He already proved he could hold his own against Christopher Judge last game, and now with Ragnarok, he really got to shine as an actor. He’s got a very promising career ahead of him if he keeps this up.
1:47:05 This last part hit me so hard, it made me want to play again… I’ve finally found a game that has such a beautiful family dynamic, redemption, that’s what the game we wanted. The sequel we deserved.
I feel like almost every parent should either watch the cutscebe movies or play 2018 and this game. They are brilliant stories about parenthood that are written better than 90% of what hollywood has put out. Also an edit, the man who played Sindri needs an Oscar right now
I loved that line "It's pretty good" - I was fully expecting some cheesy line of "Until you are, don't try to tell me what to do" or something. But nah, he's just like "It's awesome."
I literally just finished the game less then 10 minutes ago and I’ve just spent it soaking in this game. What a game man, truly makes you feel things other games only dream they could
Definitely, in fact, Raeb’s Lament has also pretty much been ingrained into my heart. There are songs out there that give me goosebumps everytime I hear them, that’s the rest of the soundtrack, but this one makes my eyes leak. It cycles tears into them with the build up and unleashes them in such a grand way, before gently crying back as if to soothe me back into peace… what a f*cking game, man. What a f*cking soundtrack. I just can’t. It’s phenomenal. I feel all of it.
@@nightnday6675 does it have to be? I think we should stop comparing which is which and appreciate both because it compliments each other, making into one of the best games ever made.
@@nightnday6675hard to compare cause one is more emotional and improved on many things while the other also has an emotional but simpler story thats a bit more relatable
Another thing I think people miss is Kratos’s theme and how it effects a scene. In the first game, every time it played it showed him as the monster returning (for different reason than destruction). He was fight to be a man but the monster kept coming to moments like Magni’s death and retrieving the blades. In this game though, it’s completely different. In stead of the monster coming, it was war. Kratos trying to avoid war as it draws ever closer and dragging him back to it, with it reaching its peak at Tyr’s temple. It’s screaming “war has finally come” with it cutting off as everyone begins to clash. However, after everything is said and done, it changes from a song of war to come to one of victory. Kratos finally getting what he always wanted, peace, and it deserves to be celebrated through chanting.
If anyone is wondering btw, I think it was mentioned somewhere that Mimir’s bifrost eyes give him like 360 degree vision or something, so he doesn’t necessarily have to face forward to see what Kratos sees.
@@LuisFelipe-jb1bq 😂😂😂😂😂true tho,I had no idea that he had 360 vision when I was watching CoryxKenshin’s videos on it,so it would be fair for mimir seeing Kratos’s butt all the time
@@LuisFelipe-jb1bq I think it's more like his eyes let him see things that aren't in his line of sight. Like how he could see a chalice that the even player could not in one specific puzzle.
I will never not cry at Brok's funeral. I don't think I've seen anything else show how much losing someone close to you feels as well as this game did. Definitely worth the wait for this masterpiece of a game
1:20:40 the sindri scene at the forge with broks body was everything for me. This is what made me really fall in love with gow, and probably has to be my best scene for the emotion that pours out of it. It truely made me feel something, and I don't cry easily or get attached to games often but I admit a tear leaked out when I heard "not even my own family" this game was truely amazing, especially with all the feeling and connection we got with the characters in the first one of this Norse chapter.
42:46 i don’t remember the exact quote, but if you free a hafgufa with Atreus, he questions why Kratos did it, and mimir says something about just wanting to spend time with him. It was a nice moment
& if you free the 2nd Hafgufa w/ him, they have a conversation about parents sacrificing themselves for the betterment of their children, which is 1) Kratos’s entire motivation & 2) yet another red herring about Kratos dying by the end.
@@razvanzamfir1545 On some level, though, I feel like Brok was setting up for a bad pun. "What gets bigger the more you take away?" "A hole?" "WHO'RE YOU CALLIN' AN A-HOLE, YOU A-HOLE???"
@@ChallengeIdeas Yeah, that seems like a Brok move. Lay out it out as a no-win for mimir, fail to solve it and he ain't so smart, and if he does twist his words back at him. Honestly sounds like a whole metaphor for war now that I think about it, it's a no win scenario.
One thing I absolutely adore with the Heimdall fight is how Kratos learns to hit him during the fight. His first flurry of blows are standard kratos attacks, wild and strong which don't come close to landing a hit. The second time around they're more controlled and tightly clustered, and he sees Heimdall forced to block. The third time around he gets him in the same position and switches tactics at the last second to grab and strike. Brilliant stuff
34:48 A thing that I loved and actually noticed the first time this scene played out is that while Atreus and Kratos are arguing, you can see Tyr in the background perfectly in the middle, fixating his gaze on Kratos throughout, like he's absorbing all the information he is giving and trying to understand who Kratos is.
@@ericschuller908 key word 'trying' as OP clearly stated. And Odin ended up understanding enough to try and push Kratos' buttons on what the true experience of Godhood should feel like.
@@ericschuller908 Nobody knows, and if Kratos didn't change on the journey, he would have died to Thor, so Odin had reasons to be confident. I would still say that in the end Odin understood what was Kratos position as like @derenona says, when he confronts him in Svartalfheim, he understood that Kratos has no sense of responsibility outside of the one he has towards his son, and that is what created the rift with Atreus in the first place.
Yeah that final scene with faye absolutely broke me, I remember being in tears when the music swelled. I'm so glad I became a father just after I finished 2018, as the themes this game brought on hit that much harder when you have a son of your own and are just trying to do your best no matter how damn hard it can be at times.
This game gave me almost the same emotionality Red Dead 2 did. You know it’s an outstanding game when it has its players tearing up in joy for scenes like Atreus and Kratos reunion after Garm as well as their goodbye at the end. This game is a staple in gaming history and it has well deserved its place.
scenes forced to the point of being unable to, instead of giving him acceptable dialogue, the director used every fan service to capture conformists like you
@@jiren6346 something must be wrong with your noggin when you come to a 'everything Great' video being a contrerian You got lost looking for a sins video. Reading is fundamental, take a hike 😂
the ending reminds me of a quote said by Faye in the game "The culmination of love is grief, and yet we love despite the inevitable. We open our hearts to it. ... To grieve deeply is to have loved fully. Open your heart to the world as you opened it to me, and you will find every reason to keep living in it."
I didn't see if on the Win list, but during the scene where Heimdall is being finished off, you can hear Mimir pleading with Kratos that 'this isn't who you want to be'. I just love this line, as it shows how Kratos as grown on Mimir as much as Mimir has grown on Kratos. That our lil' head companion knows how much pain Kratos went through as the Ghost of Sparta, and doesn't wish for him to repeat those same experiences with the Aesir, despite how much Mimir probably wishes Odin and his lot dead.
1:14:17 the part that makes it even better is that each time kratos uses the same moveset but adding one punch on the end, then in the second one heimdall blocks a punch from him, so the third time kratos grabs that arm knowing it'll be there and strikes him in another hit
You can actually get Atreus’ reaction to freeing the sand jellies if you time it correctly. When I first played Ragnarök, I went to all the realms I knew had unfinished quests with Atreus right before starting the final battle. It’s sad, but beautiful.
56:04 My favorite thing about the Norns, and what settled this game as one of my favorites in story telling, is that despite it all; they were right and their prophecy came to pass. They never once made the claimed that Heimdall was going to kill Atreus, simply that he intended to do so in Asgard. It's the belief that Heimdall was going to, and Kratos's nature to assume the worst, that lead him to attacking Heimdall; which results in Heimdall planning on killing Atreus when he returns to Asgard. So Kratos learns that Heimdall intended to kill Aretus then, which lead him to "do what he does best." and it triggered Ragnarok. Even the prophecy of Kratos's death can be seen at the end. They said "Kratos of Sparda" will die, and he did. The wrathful Godkiller died when he chose to not kill Thor or Odin. Kratos of Sparda would not have hesitated, but Kratos the Father of Atreus? Different story, different character.
I must say, that last paragraph definitely ties the knot to the 'you will die, Kratos of Sparta' segment to the Norns story. I mean god damn, I did NOT think of it that way, but that is seriously fantastic stoytelling. I tip my proverbial hat you for understanding it. I certainly didn't.
@@notblabby I love prophecies in story telling, especially when people get clever with them. The whole "This will happen, but not the way you expect it" thing is a favorite troupe of mine, so I like to keep extra attention whenever someone goes on about a prophecy. See if I can figure it out before the cast does
@@Spacecowboyy69 More like you shouldn't question your actions, just because of Fate. You should do something because it was your choice, not because it was written to happen
@@ShikyoSendo89 but by doing so you fulfil the fate set out for you, so was it really your actions or was it fate always controlling it, fate for me is like time travel, two very tricky things to explain on an agreeable level
1:01:33 when sindri struggles to give up the ring that would become Draupnir. It's actually a thing in Norse mythz that ring is addictive to the wearer/holder. Drives them crazy and after too long they can't give it up, dwarves are particularly susceptible to this which is why brok helps him put the ring in the bag. Just fine little details real Norse myth nerds would notice and I love it
There’s a great irony in that Atreus loses his temper and runs to Asgard because Kratos is trying to tell him who he is supposed to be, only to immediately seek out someone else to tell him who he’s supposed to be. Most of the obstacles in this game come from Atreus constantly rebelling against authority, but simultaneously refusing to follow through and take responsibility and agency. It’s only when he finally decides to define his own path that the heroes make progress.
Also, I'd like to point out that Kratos's last dream of Faye doesn't result in him jarring awake. Instead, he wakes slowly and calmly. Not sure what it means. I'm not philosophical enough to know. Edit: Also, I have to add that the scene where Kratos blows Gjallarhorn and the music swells as the camera turns to see every realm travel door glowing their own colors sent chills down my spine and gave me goosebumps. Amazing work to everyone involved.
I think when it comes to Thor’s backstory, it’s expressed through Thrud and Sif. In game if Atreus listens in on Sif and Thor’s conversation they actually sound genuine in a way that makes you feel for the family. They lost Magni and Modi however Sif understood it was under Odin’s order they were sent to their deaths. She during the entire game has been trying to have Thor understand too. There was even a conversation where Sif pointed out how Thor was being used by Odin and though he knew, it still hurt to hear and she regretted saying it immediately. Compared to Gods we heard have affairs, or the mini sex games Kratos went through, Sif and Thor display a very good marriage for the most part. Just like how Kratos loves Faye it’s the same with Thor and Sif.
Thanks for making me cry again. Sindri’s loss hit me hard. Really hard. I couldn’t put my finger on it. Then I remembered. I asked for GOW 2005 for my birthday. I didn’t play it until about a week later. This was because on my birthday instead of a party I got a funeral. My grandfather’s funeral. Everyone experiences grief differently. What you forgot to mention is you also have to learn how. I raged. Not outwardly but inwardly. I wanted to destroy something beautiful for having something beautiful taken anyways. A week later I unenthusiastically blew out my birthday candle, and the shrink wrap came off. Kratos became my avatar for the rage I needed to let go. It gave me focus figuring out the combat. It gave me strength through progression. It gave me a connection through Kratos as he too lost close family. As the bodies piled up my mood finally softened to the point that the game became a game again. So to end the game with a character in a similar situation really hit me. I know it’s pure coincidence that thing came somewhat full circle for me. You though, I’m not sure that matters. To quote death herself, we get what everybody gets. A lifetime. That thought beings me peace. The rage is no longer necessary. I chose now to celebrate how they chose to spend their lifetime. Who said comics and video games are throw away media.
1:16:06 , that reminds me of a fun fact about Metal Gear Snake Eater, when EVA tries to kiss Naked Snake he does'nt responds to the kiss, the scrip said they were ment to kiss in that scene but the mo-cap actor had never done romance scenes before and froze and the director kept it in.
That right hook Kratos lands on Thor and his reaction after said right hook gave me chills. Almost as if he didn’t want to exchange that power when being intentionally antagonized. He wants to be a better man, god, father. Almost as if he scared himself. This game is a god damn masterpiece. fun fact: you can go back later in the game and find the tooth that Thor pulls out and tosses on the ice.
One detail I noticed while playing is Thor snaps his fingers to recall Mjolnir, like he's summoning an attack dog. But once or twice, he just opens his hand and Mjolnir comes of its own volition. In those moments Thor isn't commanding, more like he's actually asking for Mjolnir to come to him.
I'd have been done as of him saying Magni and Modi were useless. Dude, those were your GRANDSONS, and you just said that in front of their FATHER. Anyone who so casually disregards and discards his family...
Santa Monica before the games release was so excited to deliver it to us, they claimed they poured everything, their heart and soul into this game, and I truly felt the magic they imbued. They can make a true work of art, and I'm glad to be able to live in a time where they are not only delivering it to us, but they are alive to be recognized for their beauty and skill. Most famous artists, in any craft, are often not recognized for their works until they are no longer with us and are often criticized while they are alive. Santa Monica Studios truly deserves every bit of love and empathy for their works of art.
One thing i have noticed about Karatos' fight with Heimdell is technique. Being a very devoted fighting game player i can attest to being dedicated to making my main a muscle memory. You get to make moves without even thinking about it, and that makes chains unpredictable. Heimdell uses his power to predict minds and act accordingly, so he must read what his opponents think before they act. But Kratos being a master fighter, his moves are natural to him as breathing. His movements aren't as unpredictable as it is random. His body just knows how to move and add new chains without thinking them in his mind before having to add them. You'll see that his "combos" start about the same, he just adds into them with each initiation. Kratos just had to add enough for Heimdell to not react to it fast enough. Heimdell knows how to fight, but his power prevents him from improving it further.
The end credits (after Broks Funeral) with Bear’s “Blood Upon The Snow” made me speechless, I was so invested in this game, and I couldn’t believe it was done, I 100% the game and that was my last quest
I still can't believe no one is talking about the absolute win that is showing Kratos is still afraid of loosing his son like he lost his daughter. His dream sequence (Briefly mentioned 1:06:43) where he holds his son after Faye hands him to Kratos and she disappears, the way that she and Baby Atreus vanish is similar to how Calliope and Lysandra vanished in the GoW Ascension trailer. The look of genuine fear and trauma that Kratos falls into is so heartbreaking and you really resonate with him here, you as the player also don't want to lose Atreus either, you want him to be safe and to stop pursuing Odin for answers because we knew something was wrong. I just had to get that off my chest, god this game is so good!
Sindri's downward spiral after Brock's death was so heartbreaking, especially since we don't see any sign of him coming out of it any time soon. It's too real and gets me every time.
Odin is designed so perfect its almost impossible to dislike him even though you know what he's done and is willing to do they absolutely nailed making him seem like a kind wise old man on the surface even though you know you can't trust him
I had a theory that when Kratos was talking about the old man and the logs, the story he tells to Atreus; Kratos was talking about his commitment to Ares. Like Kratos in the old games would bring his Spartans to battle but in the end when he was about to die he asked Ares (death in context) to help him, and Ares gave him the blades of chaos which would be representing the logs in the story.
Something I didn't notice during my playthrough, and a connection I made after you pointed out Ingrid blocking Mjolnir during the bar fight. 1:18:34, Ingrid blocks Thor from hitting Atreus with Mjolnir as he escapes. So after not only blocking the hammer during the drunken brawl, Ingrid was also able to block a full on hit from Thor.
That's cool. Can you suggest a part where Sindri says, "The answer to Broks riddle?"What gets bigger the more you take away from it" is a greedy, rotten, selfish God just like Odin." Anyways, good job with the game..😁
1:06:28 Another detail here to point it is WHY he breaks here. He believes he has lost everything he has, he KNOWS it is through his own actions, he KNOWS that if he does not change then he will never get his son back, but for just a moment, just a single moment, he believes the Norns. He believes that he CANNOT change. And THAT is what finally breaks him.
the hugging scene reminded me of the hesitation of touch between the two since they had that distance between them, but now, even with odin trying to distance them again, atreus immediately goes for a big hug and kratos' confusion is not out of surprise, but of concern.
Also at 11:42 I love that Kratos says no because the last time he thought like a General he ended up becoming The Ghost Of Sparta and he doesn’t want to become that again with Atreus. And at 18:10 when he gets brought back it’s the curse bestowed upon him since he has to live with the acts he’s committed “fate” won’t let him die.
I love the detail when Surter says “Have you ever been in love?” Atreus looks at Kratos 😂 It reminds me of when the doctors ask “Are you (cough) active” when your parents are in the room.
I'm going to be honest. There were so many moments that brought me to tears. This game made me feel so many emotions with just how great the game is, and after I beat the game and I was walking down that mountain. I fully started to cry. This just made me realize how much I have seen Kratos go through and how I also grew with him. I even related to him with dealing with my past and controlling rage. All in all. This game completely broke me in a good way, I am sad that this might be the last we see of Kratos, but I also think it's about time we let him rest. His story is over, and we experienced every little bit of it. Finally seeing Kratos getting his own happy ending.
I think the absolute highlight of Kratos' journey in these two games was when he calls Mimir Brother. Mimir called him that from the moment they first met, feeling that they were similar in some way, and that they'd understand eachother in time. Then at the end of Ragnarok, Kratos finally admits how much he needed Mimir to be there for him, and the two of them adressing each other as brother is just a really touching moment
Also, Týr's voice is awesome. I expected a big, booming voice and got a nice, calm voice, perfect for who he is now; further proven when you find the real one in each realm as the "God of Tai Chi"
Idk if anyone else in the comments mentioned this, but when Freya speaks to Odin while choking him during the final battle, she uses the same phrases Baulder told her during HIS final fight in the previous game, with a few subtle differences, definitely worth a win in my book, shows Freya was indeed able to see past vengeance and her own rage, not unlike her son, who died for that exact reason, despite given the chance to back away.
One of the game directors, Eric Williams, pointed out that the scratch that Heimdall gets from that first punch kratos lands is from the ring on his right hand. So even in its basic ring form it's being used to beat Heimdall's ass
Plus the setup of the punch itself. Kratos becomes faster every time and repeats a combo where he had to block him except he grabs his blocking arm to pull him into the punch so he can't dodge. Fantastic.
When you said that not having Atreus after the game made you wonder how he would react to the side stuff, and it made me think about how when you do the side stuff with him and then lose him afterwards with him, the hole is even bigger because theres more stuff afterwards that you really wish he was there for because of how much he was there for already
Some small details I loved about the final Thor fight: Thor gets wounded in the stomach by all three of Kratos' weapons, Kratos deals the final blow to his hand with one of the knives he carved when Atreus was a baby (another weapon linked to a family member), and Mjolnir and Leviathan directly clash several times because they're equal in power. I also love how in the final axe vs hammer clash, Kratos gets the upper hand with each swing; first matching Thor, then knocking him back, then sending Mjolnir flying out of his hand. And to top it all off, when Thor recalls Mjolnir it slowly drags along the ground instead of flying to his hand. It's as if even Mjolnir is tired from that fight, especially since it just lost in a clash with the weapon created to match it.
I just really love how in the trailers they show Fenrir as mysterious and menacing, but in the game he’s a giant good boy
That was Garmr/Garm not Fenrir
@@julien6871 well people who don't know about garm in myth would assume it's fenrir in the trailers
That the disappointing part, cringy ass "good boy" bs, instead of making him a badass as how he is supposed to be.
@@julien6871 well the wolf did look black which would make people think its fenrir
@@justaayan2 don’t know where they got that impression since Fenrir wasn’t present in the first game. It could’ve been any big black wolf especially since Garm is stated to look like a black wolf in Mythos
I didn’t even realize the reason Thor’s wound never heals is because the axe was imbued with eitr, such good storytelling
I mean, the Tyr/Odin plot alone is top tier writing.
@@Vayne_Solidor oh for sure, but those small details are really impressive for me, too
@@Vayne_Solidor *top tyr writing
@@cantstopthepun bruh, 10/10
@@cantstopthepun living up to your name
My cousin's son died last week, and I just finished the main story. The last vision of Faye just hit so hard. "Grief is the culmination of love . . . to grieve deeply is to have loved fully" really got me. I love you, Zack. And I will grieve you deeply.
May your cousin rest peacefully.
May you have a fufilling life and so have a great day too, I understand your pain so hopefully luck will go to you and so live a good life don't fall down you are strong enough.
Oh man I'm so sorry...
Cool bro
We rolling them up rn lil bro
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"To grieve deeply is to have loved fully."
I don't think this game will ever stop making me cry and cry and cry.
missed opportunity to mention another Marvel reference when Vison says "What is grief, if not love persevering"
Fr, if this game was out longer, I feel like it would have 100% won game of the year
@@PotatoMateYT agreed, and I love Elden Ring. But this game just hits different. It fully connects with places Miyazaki's games only touch with Priscilla, the Lady, and the girl in the painting.
I read this comment right as she said it
@@TheBserk This game had more of a Marvel Shtick to it
I love how Kratos looks at the arrows he's making. Ancient Greece did not have a high opinion of archery in combat, they saw it as dishonorable but he's still making them because his son is an archer and Norse had a very different opinion of archery.
Yeah didn't Greece think that arrows are reserved for animals? Like for hunting? IDK were I got this from
@@P-man_XD You can go so far to say Archery was considered cowardly for top Greek warriors. As if, only for those who need to ambush without any confidence to face their opponent. Very 'alpha/sigma' grindset for spears and swords.
@@P-man_XD Your thoughts may have come from media depictions of Artemis as the goddess of the hunt primarily featured with a bow.
norway rather than norse lol! i made the same mistake until i realized
Kratos actually had a bow in god of war 2, he got the storm bow from the titan typhoon
“Are you not a soldier? Are you not a leader of men? MASTER YOURSELF, my son brought us to this place FOR YOU LOOK AT HIM” 100 points instantly given.
“Death can have me when it earns me”
Instant 1000 points
Speak plain.
"Biiiig footprint."
"Smartest. Man. Alive."
Instant 10000 points.
@@ChaplainPhantasm just went through that the other day, had to pause to laugh that one out
@@ChaplainPhantasm I would have thrown on a good chunk of points in this review just for all the witty banter
21:30 It's extra hilarious that if you approach the kettle/kitchen after this cut scene, Sindri will pipe up with "I KNEW you wanted a snack!" from wherever he is in the house 🤣
That actually happened to me… twice
@@Mrsir529that just makes this Easter egg funnier
sad thing after brok dies actually, you can hear sindri's past lines while walking around his home. approach the kitchen
*"see, i KNEW you wanted a snack!"*
In the book, Atreus talks about feeling the emotions of animals and other beings. He described kratos as a wall, with only lapses of gigantic emotions leaking out momentarily
Omg, I didn't read the book
This is an awsome detaile
If he wasn’t a wall, he’d be gow3 all over again
@@louderthan5849You people are so obsessed with the original games yall stopped making sense
@@imperfect_dan7519what do you mean?
@@vandergamer8682 bro read the prior comment. "If he wasnt a wall hed be gow3 all over again". Literally what does that mean. Hed be a genocidal maniac if he didnt have an emotional barrier from his son? Makes zero sense for this depiction of Kratos
Love how in the final Thor fight, each weapon got its own cinematic cutscene highlight. First the Blades of Chaos which he uses to whip back Mjolnir, and then the Draupnir Spear to escape Thor's neck choke, and lastly the final clash with the Axe fittingly.
It's also like the Devs are encouraging you to use all of them in this one final fight.
Each time those cuts scenes played, I kept using the weapons used until the next. While every other gamer just immediately went to a different weapon.
Don't forget the final weapon, the almighty knife that pinned Thor's hand.
"IT'S ALL CONNECTED MAN," the knife that connects atraus and Kratos so technically they both defeated Thor? Meh, I'm probably looking into it too much.
Kratos walking down the stairs to blow the horn, with the music hitting its peak and the realms all opening, gives me chills every time without fail. My favorite moment out of any game I’ve ever played.
It was the End Game "Avengers assemble" moment.
I’ve rewatched the scene probably few dozen times
It put tears in my eyes. So powerful.
Better moment was in GoW 2018 when they finally find the biggest penis in all the realms.
@@2chaskell big same
1:09:15 Little Hidden win here you missed. The way Kratos says "Off your back" is a little call back too "A Spartan NEVER let's his back hit the ground. Even in death he stands ready for battle." From GOW Ghost of Sparta.
The"not even my family" line was delivered just so pefectly, there's just something about the way Sindri says it that always makes me tear up
This game is the first in quite some time to make me cry, not just one tear anything like that but shed tears, Kratos's last farewell to Faye and her line with "open your heart to the world as you have opened it to me and you will find every reason to keep living in it" and when Kratos said "Loki will go, Atreus will stay" made the tears come a flowing😭
“The culmination of love is grief. And yet we love despite the inevitable, we open our hearts to it.”
Those got me but Broks funeral absolutely destroyed me. Sindris VA, Bears score and the riddle being answered. Then the final credits...
And they still get me now. Hell, even the moment Kratos blows the horn manages to get me teary and choked up. But the hug after that quote from Kratos is just too too much...
Allergies were bad
@@Bag-o-donuts "Why is that creature in the bay?"
What broke me the most about Sindri was his appearance after Brok died: He had Brok's blood on his armor the entire game, he started vanishing in front of everyone rather than when he was out of sight, he lost all remorse, and so on. They wrote Sindri so well and it sucks that perfection like this can be so heartbreaking
What he said to Atreus was just wrong. Sad how grief can blind people.
Don't forget that he stopped wearing his gloves. He no longer cared about cleanliness.
@@Kimtroverted he didn't care much for anything after brok
@@MaxGreen-oe7me I have a different take on it. I don't think he was actually blaming atreus. Not fully. I think that he was trying to push Atreus away. Everyone away. Because he knows if he loses them he'll only feel hurt
@@defender2222 That's actually very interesting. New perspective.
The speech this man gave at the end gave me goosebumps “Love deeply, love strongly, find your family. Because after all… what else is there?” Like god damn
50:30 A little detail that I love is that Heimdall initially catches the arrow, but then notices the mud on him and gets pissed off. Why? Because he can’t see little things like that. That’s why the Draupnir Spear is effective since it bypasses his foresight. He can’t keep track it seems of multiple things all at once without some difficulty. Like mud splashing on him…
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I did not notice that when playing, thank you on that
How did you guys miss the fact that Kratos cuts Heimdall's cheek with the Draupnir ring on that first punch that connected... the spear really was the key to defeating him
Holy fuck never noticed that
@noahsains6227 yeah i see a lot of brawls in my line of work and the only way to get cut that straight is if the other guy was wearing a ring
@@x7nilestyle13 May i ask what your job is? Are you a Bartender?
@user-zj3yp8uz3u I'm a security consultant now, but i did work as a bouncer in a few strip clubs when i was younger
@@Star-vh4cs he works at Waffle House
That Hole riddle is also a symbol for how Kratos and Atreus took away everything from Sindri, and now he only has a big hole in his heart. Truly the best storytelling game, not even of the year, but ever.
Mmmman why did you make it worse. I never notice that. Great catch!
little something to note: At one point Kratos says to mimir "Could the answer be nothing?" or something like that and Mimir just dismisses it even though it was actually really close. I think this shows some level of Mimir overthinking and not being able to see things simply unlike Brok.
Ultimately, Kratos and Atreus didn't take anything from Sindri. Odin took Brok. Sindri did nothing that a friend with his resources shouldn't do when friends are fighting for their lives. And if you think they never gave Sindri anything, they gave him 3 blissful years reunited with his brother by settling their feud. They healed him once. They tried to heal him again. And when that couldn't happen they gave him the only gift that they had left to offer -- a chance at justice against Odin.
And each of them gave up their own revenge, even Freya, to someone who while probably not the most deserving of revenge against Odin, was the one who needed it most.
The gang was plenty generous with Sindri. He took as much as he gave. He's bitter and fragile and petty and wounded and he's not in a position to see it now but maybe he'll grow someday and put it all together what they did for him.
You know, all the side quests and side stories in this duology are canon events right?, Kratos and Atreus did a *lot* for both Sindri and Brokr in the first game, Kratos and Atreus saves Sindri's life from a dragon attack and help Sindri's for his lots and lots of projects, they all mutually gives and takes
@@hagamapama Agreed Sindri is broken because in a way , I think the devastation isnt that Brok died but his own actions implicitly led to Broks death. he encouraged Atreus to look for Tyr which led to Odin spying on them and eventually faking being Tyr. He invited Kratos and Atreus to live with them in the realm between realms. A lot of the taking he suggests Kratos and Atreus did is help and generosity he offered only this time and its clear when he says now what do I have left , not even my family stems from his pain at doing everything he could to control and keep everyone safe and alive even against their wishes and he couldn't. His inability to let go led to his current feelings. He made a choice for Brok that he had no right making and Brok ended up dying anyways and even when Brok was alive instead of spending time with him, he feuded with him out of a sibling rivalry that took years from time they could have spent together. The scene where Sindri says he doesnt have his family left, I believe thats why Kratos says to him mourn how you wish because he ultimately realizes that Sindris grief and pain wont be solved or talked through , he wants someone to blame , someone to hurt, someone to take his pain out on so he can relieve it the same way Kratos did during the Greek era, he understands this all too well.
I interpreted the handprint on kratos’s head at the beginning of the game as Faye putting a protection spell on Kratos to save him from his fate
Ahhhhhhhh smart
That’s smart
Painting him gold more than once.
That would really cheapen it imo. The whole point of the whole "fate" plotline is that there isn't really a fate or destiny here; it's just the choices that people make being predictable.
Having someone else change Kratos' "fate" for him would just take away his own character development and the changes he made to himself by attributing it to someone's manipulations.
Not to mention that, when it comes to *actual* fate manipulation of predetermining events, Kratos is the only person in the franchise that's been shown to be immune to it, as stated and shown in the GOW2 novel, as the sisters of fate could not change his destiny or kill him despite even cutting his thread of fate.
@@djrocksgaming6255 i don’t totally disagree that it cheapens it but i find it strange that kratos says that it felt more real than a dream, and Faye says something like hurry kratos there isn’t much time then puts the spell on him.
That final side convo with Atreus and Mimir about Mimir being like a father hit so hard after the battle of Asgard
Battle of asgard, you mean the snatch and grab and destruction of odin right? Spent more time collecting fruit than we did at that so called final battle
@@Spacecowboyy69 ah, another person with unjustified distain towards the final act of the game. you will never see the error in your ways, and that is okay. you will never make a good leader.
@@holyjolias3229 you literally said another person which means I'm not alone, blindly giving a game praise without seeing its flaws is never a good thing, the game was okay but ending was rushed as all hel
@@Spacecowboyy69 you think because your not alone in your unjustified and foolish ass position that it somehow abstains you from your stupidity? that does nothing but prove there's other people as arrogant as you who somehow find flaws in that glorious final battle. it's so blatant how fantastic the final act was that if you can't see it then you need a neurologist.
@@Spacecowboyy69 I agree that they could've spent more time giving us a better finale, a more epic and climatic one, but I'd argue that, as short as it felt, it makes sense, it's a desperate attack, they're out of options, with how strong Asgard's defenses were hyped up to be (with the dwarves being pressured relentlessly to build the machines to destroy the realm towers), I wouldn't have it any other way... The ending looks rushed because, storywise, it IS rushed, it's, again, desperate, but it's given the same meticulous care than the rest of the game...
Is it perfect? No, not at all.
Does the community give it constant praise without seeing its flaws? Maybe, I just don't think there's enough flaws to be worth bitching about, really.
I, myself, see some of its flaws, I hate the hinting dialogue during puzzles, I had a bug in my playthrough that froze Kratos's upper body, the berserks were too simple, too easy to learn their patterns...
And, although I see these flaws, they're not enough for me to stop enjoying literally everything else the game has to offer.
Why only look at the negatives, when there's so much more to see?
1:06:31 "shirtless kratos og style armor would be nice" this aged REALLY well
I thought the same thing
So, Kratos’s theme and, really, the theme for this game’s lyrics translate to tell the tale of Kratos, his state of mind and heart through each portion of the game. Spoilers ahead for the game due to lyric connections:
The song speaks of one who destroyed and killed and sees himself as irredeemable but the part when Kratos gives his speech at Tyr’s Temple through when they step through the portal to Asgard, it talks about redemption by needing to trust his son and the capacity for change Kratos has shown. Really touching.
"It's enough to make a grown man cry.. and that's okay".
Ragnacock 1:24:45
It makes since, Athena told Kratos that the deed he has done can never be forgiven. He believed that.
Another detail is that in the first 2 'Faye' dreams he wakes up confused and angry. It's only before he is about to go into battle where he is oddly at peace, finally doing something he is all too familiar with but for a good purpose.
It just hit me that the Norns said that the Norse realms literally have no destinies and nothing is set in stone, the Norns' only ability is that they understand everyone's nature to the point where the entire future is predictable, nothing more. So when Kratos "changed the future," he really was just changing himself to a point that altered the potential choices he and others made.
I wholeheartedly agree with this take
What about the the Jotnar tho? They have visions of future of beings that not even born yet.
@@trihermawan9553 They probably see the most likely future
@@trihermawan9553 From what I can tell the jotnar have the ability to see "events" but their ability to see those whom the events involve and what role they play within them is not infallible, case in point, They prophecize Kratos dying in Atreus's arms, the event is Atreus holding someone apparently dead in his arms, but they were mistaken about who it actually was, since it ended up being Odin, another example was they prophecize Tyr (mentioned by name in their prophecy) leading the armies at Ragnarok with his spear in hand, the event was a good of war leading the armies with a spear, instead of Tyr it ended up being Kratos with Draupnir, another example Surtr was prophecized to bring down Hrimthur's wall after merging with Sinmara and becoming Ragnarok, instead the walls are brought down by Sindri and Surtr becomes Ragnarok not by fusing with Sinmara but because of the energy of the blades and her hearth, so that's my view on it anyway.
1:06:24 Looking at Kratos bare like this really reminds you how good his character design is. Not just because he looks badass, but because he literally wears all of his failures on his body.
The scar on his eye and the red tattoos are a reminder of his failure to protect his brother, the white of his skin are the ashes of his previous family that he accidently killed, the scar on his belly was from being manipulated and killed by his father, and the scars on his arms are from his bondage and manipulation from Ares. Whenever he looks at himself, he's just reminded of all the things he's done wrong or failed to do right. It's really sad.
I find it odd no one has linked this to body dismorphia yet. Many people look at their bodies and see someone they'd rather not be, and having a god struggle with an extreme version of this is a real interesting thing to me
@@BigGuy172 I mean. I dunno about that. Body dysmorphia is a little less extreme than what's being seen here lmao. Literal battle scars from traumatising life or death battles are a little heavier than thinking you're too overweight.
I'm going to veer a bit away from the symbolism to say that scene awed me because he actually looks like an older person would when that muscled. It's not just Kratos' head on 23 year old Arnold Schwarzeneggar's body. I don't even know how to describe it, but you can just tell that he's not a young man by just the musculature. Insane attention to detail.
@@Jagernotty That as well. Especially in the way he reaches over to put out the candle. He doesn't just look old, he.. Feels old.
That's what makes the ending Shrine so much better. His complete 180° at the start of Ragnarok, shows his scars are still there but are a sign of wisdom not just his suffering
atreus exiting "stage left" to a piece of rock that looks like a giant's face is honestly what made me cry even HARDER. i interpreted it as faye giving him her blessing to his journey. a way of showing she's always will be there with him
I've seen people mention this a lot but the best part about the buildup of the Heimdall fight is that there is clearly a strategy to what Kratos is doing.
First, he's swing with a bunch of normal slow punches to get a sense of Heimdall's speed. Then, he starts moving faster to test his awareness as well as his fighting prowess. Heimdall easily should have counter attacked after he blocked Kratos' attack, which tells Kratos that Heimdall has no real technique for how combat works. So, when he runs in one last time, he does another string of attacks which is blocked, but Kratos' is ready and throws the most basic of counter hits. Block with the left and swing with the right, an attack any fighter would know how to avoid. But Heimdall only relies on his vision, so he gets hit.
Couldn't decide what was more satisfying in that fight: landing a hit and rocking his whole world, or blowing his arm off mid-threat
@@Double-R-Nothing Both. Both is good.
1:14:12 A scary thing about these scenes that someone in the comments of a different video pointed out was that these were tests to gauge Heimdall’s skill.
The first set of wide strikes were to see how far he can dodge.
The second set were to see how fast Kratos had to swing to force connection.
The last set was him putting the strikes into action to force a block into a “textbook counter that anyone with real fighting experience should be able to block.”
I don’t quite remember everything the comment said, but it just shows how real their difference in skill is.
the 2nd and 3rd attack sequence is literally the same, but during the 3rd kratos outplays heimdall by catching his blocking hand, thus resulting in a satisfying consequent hit
No kratos thought that after after stunning heimdall he’d be able to hit him easily
@@vit-t680 you virgins never stop arguing over nothing huh?
@@vit-t680 the younger kratos would probably think that
But kratos in gow ragnarok would know that he wouldn’t be able to hit him that easily p
@@Baby_999 how would he know
What you said about Ironwood and Atreus getting to be a kid is reinforced by the fact that for all of his life up until that point, he has been surrounded by only these miserable adults(Kratos, Freya, Baldur) and when he meets Angrboda, he meets a kid his age for the first time, he gets to run away from all of his responsibilities and everything, just collecting some food and skipping rocks instead. Which is why I don't mind it
Felt like a trip to Nardia or something fantastical. I didn't mind it at all but I can see where someone can complain about the pacing. Still, I'm sure that was deliberately placed with how Atreus lost track of time getting back before his Dad would get suspicious.
That one of my fav scenes
Atreus even says that he doesn't want to be alone anymore and wnat to meet kids of his age
Another detail I've noticed in this game is that right before Sindri tells Atreus to get out of his sight, his eyes shift away from his former partner. It's as if he was reconsidering saying it because deep down, he still loves him and knows that Atreus wasn't the one who killed Brok. But then Sindri immediately discards that reconsideration, as his anger and grief are stronger than his love for his other family members at that moment.
1:14:27
I love when games still impact a boss's HP in a cutscene. The attention to detail is so nice
Three things I wanted to mention:
Freya and Baldur get some serious parallels in different ways, big and small. First one being when she pulls the world tree branches out in Vanaheim, she looks almost one to one like Baldur did after he punched the mistletoe, both of their curses being broken. Second, Freya says a similar thing to Odin that Baldur said to her, them both referring to how they waited for the exact moment that they got to convey to their tormentor exactly what they had done to them (Baldur to Freya, Freya to Odin), with some differences. Third, both Baldur and Freya come face to face with their past mistakes, with Baldur in Hel seeing how he could've taken his revenge on his mother, and Freya seeing how she (believes) she killed her son. Freya basically played both roles in these games, the torturer to Baldur in 2018, and the tortured in Ragnarök because of Odin. Her arc is by far one of my favorites!
Smaller detail that I liked was how when Kratos was punching the wall to build focus, it played his theme, and when it transitions to Atreus doing the same, it goes right into his theme respectively. Love how well the music shows off the independence Atreus has gotten in this game.
And jesus, the fight with Heimdallr was GOOD, but more importantly what hit me was that GOW3 Kratos facial expression you can catch when he chokes him out. Scary stuff to see even a fraction of that rage in that expression
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i would also say that Odin resembles Baldur as well in his final moments , his complete refusal to change even though he is beaten at the end
Back in 2018 the "close your heart to their suffering" quote was something i really took to heart and used in order to become less emotional and disturbed by things and it kinda made me disconnected even though i felt safe doing so. Hearing kratos admit he was wrong and telling boi to do the opposite really hit me. He's so right.
54:20
Freya: "And matted fur leads to disease. Take care of them and they'll take care of you!"
Also Freya: *_*Leaves Chaurli in the cold to die_*
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A wise crack from Mimir about this would’ve been perfect
@@Whendeesle remember though at this part of the game Kratos and Mimir hadn’t visited Freya’s forest yet since fimblewinter started
@@jazzyjaiden I know it was theoretically speaking
I forgot about that but so true 🤣😂
Kratos said "they are wolves"
He should've said "cold weather kills reptiles"
The scene of Kratos telling a story to Atreus before going into Asgard made me cry like a baby. It made me think of my dad reading me stories when I was a kid. And it really just hit me hard.
This was the scene that hit me the most too. God damn this was an excellent game
They really did write Sindri incredibly well in this game. I unfortunately know his pain of losing a brother, and the feeling of emptiness and just falling into a hole.
I REALLY wish he touched on visiting the wedding location for Freya and Odin and how she grew as a character. I know it's not necessarily part of the main plot but GOD DAMN it was heartwarming
Honestly, the side missions could have an entire video dedicated to them
Everyone working on this gave it their all, but Sunny definitely gets the “Most Improved Performance.” in my opinion. He already proved he could hold his own against Christopher Judge last game, and now with Ragnarok, he really got to shine as an actor. He’s got a very promising career ahead of him if he keeps this up.
1:47:05 This last part hit me so hard, it made me want to play again… I’ve finally found a game that has such a beautiful family dynamic, redemption, that’s what the game we wanted. The sequel we deserved.
I’ve been checking every day for the past couple weeks since I finished the story go Ragnarok! I’m so hyped for this episode.
Same😂
I know right
Yo Bork!!! So cool seeing you here :)
Bro how is your comment 5 whole hours before this video was released?
@@sirplayalot before the video was released there was a TH-cam premiere where everybody could comment and chat before it aired.
Not enough people acknowledge Danielle’s performance in this game & I’m so glad you did.
I feel like almost every parent should either watch the cutscebe movies or play 2018 and this game. They are brilliant stories about parenthood that are written better than 90% of what hollywood has put out.
Also an edit, the man who played Sindri needs an Oscar right now
his pain was so resonant, i wanted his forgiveness so bad. But i know that's simply not possible
I loved that line "It's pretty good" - I was fully expecting some cheesy line of "Until you are, don't try to tell me what to do" or something. But nah, he's just like "It's awesome."
For real and idk who voiced Surtr but they did a great job.
they deadass made surtr a chill surfer dude 💀
I literally just finished the game less then 10 minutes ago and I’ve just spent it soaking in this game. What a game man, truly makes you feel things other games only dream they could
Definitely, in fact, Raeb’s Lament has also pretty much been ingrained into my heart. There are songs out there that give me goosebumps everytime I hear them, that’s the rest of the soundtrack, but this one makes my eyes leak. It cycles tears into them with the build up and unleashes them in such a grand way, before gently crying back as if to soothe me back into peace… what a f*cking game, man. What a f*cking soundtrack. I just can’t. It’s phenomenal. I feel all of it.
Was it better than the first one?
@@nightnday6675 does it have to be? I think we should stop comparing which is which and appreciate both because it compliments each other, making into one of the best games ever made.
@@nightnday6675hard to compare cause one is more emotional and improved on many things while the other also has an emotional but simpler story thats a bit more relatable
Another thing I think people miss is Kratos’s theme and how it effects a scene. In the first game, every time it played it showed him as the monster returning (for different reason than destruction). He was fight to be a man but the monster kept coming to moments like Magni’s death and retrieving the blades. In this game though, it’s completely different. In stead of the monster coming, it was war. Kratos trying to avoid war as it draws ever closer and dragging him back to it, with it reaching its peak at Tyr’s temple. It’s screaming “war has finally come” with it cutting off as everyone begins to clash. However, after everything is said and done, it changes from a song of war to come to one of victory. Kratos finally getting what he always wanted, peace, and it deserves to be celebrated through chanting.
If anyone is wondering btw, I think it was mentioned somewhere that Mimir’s bifrost eyes give him like 360 degree vision or something, so he doesn’t necessarily have to face forward to see what Kratos sees.
But wouldn’t he just be seeing krato’s butt if he has 360° vision?
@@LuisFelipe-jb1bq 😂 good one.
@@LuisFelipe-jb1bq 😂😂😂😂😂true tho,I had no idea that he had 360 vision when I was watching CoryxKenshin’s videos on it,so it would be fair for mimir seeing Kratos’s butt all the time
@@LuisFelipe-jb1bq I think it's more like his eyes let him see things that aren't in his line of sight. Like how he could see a chalice that the even player could not in one specific puzzle.
The real reason is "video games logic"
I will never not cry at Brok's funeral. I don't think I've seen anything else show how much losing someone close to you feels as well as this game did. Definitely worth the wait for this masterpiece of a game
1:20:40 the sindri scene at the forge with broks body was everything for me. This is what made me really fall in love with gow, and probably has to be my best scene for the emotion that pours out of it. It truely made me feel something, and I don't cry easily or get attached to games often but I admit a tear leaked out when I heard "not even my own family" this game was truely amazing, especially with all the feeling and connection we got with the characters in the first one of this Norse chapter.
42:46 i don’t remember the exact quote, but if you free a hafgufa with Atreus, he questions why Kratos did it, and mimir says something about just wanting to spend time with him. It was a nice moment
& if you free the 2nd Hafgufa w/ him, they have a conversation about parents sacrificing themselves for the betterment of their children, which is 1) Kratos’s entire motivation & 2) yet another red herring about Kratos dying by the end.
Spoiler warning (just in case)
Mimir figuring out Brok’s riddle at his funeral absolutely wrecked me 😭
Because it's exactly what Brok left behind. Devastating moment
@@razvanzamfir1545 On some level, though, I feel like Brok was setting up for a bad pun.
"What gets bigger the more you take away?"
"A hole?"
"WHO'RE YOU CALLIN' AN A-HOLE, YOU A-HOLE???"
@@ChallengeIdeas Yeah, that seems like a Brok move. Lay out it out as a no-win for mimir, fail to solve it and he ain't so smart, and if he does twist his words back at him. Honestly sounds like a whole metaphor for war now that I think about it, it's a no win scenario.
@@Galeigh ayy but in that case it's a win for brok in war everyone is a loser even those who started it
I was crying at the funeral, but when mimir said that i actually started sobbing. i dont think a game has ever made me that emotional ever. lmfao
Admiring the coat, and OG Kratos appearance, bro must be happy with NG+
One thing I absolutely adore with the Heimdall fight is how Kratos learns to hit him during the fight. His first flurry of blows are standard kratos attacks, wild and strong which don't come close to landing a hit. The second time around they're more controlled and tightly clustered, and he sees Heimdall forced to block. The third time around he gets him in the same position and switches tactics at the last second to grab and strike. Brilliant stuff
34:48 A thing that I loved and actually noticed the first time this scene played out is that while Atreus and Kratos are arguing, you can see Tyr in the background perfectly in the middle, fixating his gaze on Kratos throughout, like he's absorbing all the information he is giving and trying to understand who Kratos is.
He never once understood Kratos.
@@ericschuller908 key word 'trying' as OP clearly stated. And Odin ended up understanding enough to try and push Kratos' buttons on what the true experience of Godhood should feel like.
@@762x69, but Odin also had no clue how unstoppable Kratos was.
@@ericschuller908 Nobody knows, and if Kratos didn't change on the journey, he would have died to Thor, so Odin had reasons to be confident.
I would still say that in the end Odin understood what was Kratos position as like @derenona says, when he confronts him in Svartalfheim, he understood that Kratos has no sense of responsibility outside of the one he has towards his son, and that is what created the rift with Atreus in the first place.
Kratos has changed ever since moving to Midgard andd with Faye and also Atreus.
Yeah that final scene with faye absolutely broke me, I remember being in tears when the music swelled. I'm so glad I became a father just after I finished 2018, as the themes this game brought on hit that much harder when you have a son of your own and are just trying to do your best no matter how damn hard it can be at times.
This game gave me almost the same emotionality Red Dead 2 did. You know it’s an outstanding game when it has its players tearing up in joy for scenes like Atreus and Kratos reunion after Garm as well as their goodbye at the end. This game is a staple in gaming history and it has well deserved its place.
scenes forced to the point of being unable to, instead of giving him acceptable dialogue, the director used every fan service to capture conformists like you
@@jiren6346 something must be wrong with your noggin when you come to a 'everything Great' video being a contrerian
You got lost looking for a sins video. Reading is fundamental, take a hike 😂
My problem with RDR2 was I only played the first ones zombie mode. I didn't have money at the time and I don't have a console that plays it now.
the ending reminds me of a quote said by Faye in the game "The culmination of love is grief, and yet we love despite the inevitable. We open our hearts to it. ... To grieve deeply is to have loved fully. Open your heart to the world as you opened it to me, and you will find every reason to keep living in it."
I didn't see if on the Win list, but during the scene where Heimdall is being finished off, you can hear Mimir pleading with Kratos that 'this isn't who you want to be'. I just love this line, as it shows how Kratos as grown on Mimir as much as Mimir has grown on Kratos. That our lil' head companion knows how much pain Kratos went through as the Ghost of Sparta, and doesn't wish for him to repeat those same experiences with the Aesir, despite how much Mimir probably wishes Odin and his lot dead.
1:14:17 the part that makes it even better is that each time kratos uses the same moveset but adding one punch on the end, then in the second one heimdall blocks a punch from him, so the third time kratos grabs that arm knowing it'll be there and strikes him in another hit
You can actually get Atreus’ reaction to freeing the sand jellies if you time it correctly. When I first played Ragnarök, I went to all the realms I knew had unfinished quests with Atreus right before starting the final battle. It’s sad, but beautiful.
Kratos' speech and the music when he blew the horn deserves all the wins
56:04 My favorite thing about the Norns, and what settled this game as one of my favorites in story telling, is that despite it all; they were right and their prophecy came to pass. They never once made the claimed that Heimdall was going to kill Atreus, simply that he intended to do so in Asgard. It's the belief that Heimdall was going to, and Kratos's nature to assume the worst, that lead him to attacking Heimdall; which results in Heimdall planning on killing Atreus when he returns to Asgard. So Kratos learns that Heimdall intended to kill Aretus then, which lead him to "do what he does best." and it triggered Ragnarok.
Even the prophecy of Kratos's death can be seen at the end. They said "Kratos of Sparda" will die, and he did. The wrathful Godkiller died when he chose to not kill Thor or Odin. Kratos of Sparda would not have hesitated, but Kratos the Father of Atreus? Different story, different character.
I must say, that last paragraph definitely ties the knot to the 'you will die, Kratos of Sparta' segment to the Norns story. I mean god damn, I did NOT think of it that way, but that is seriously fantastic stoytelling.
I tip my proverbial hat you for understanding it. I certainly didn't.
@@notblabby I love prophecies in story telling, especially when people get clever with them. The whole "This will happen, but not the way you expect it" thing is a favorite troupe of mine, so I like to keep extra attention whenever someone goes on about a prophecy. See if I can figure it out before the cast does
so entire game is about changing fate but fate is never actually changed?
@@Spacecowboyy69 More like you shouldn't question your actions, just because of Fate. You should do something because it was your choice, not because it was written to happen
@@ShikyoSendo89 but by doing so you fulfil the fate set out for you, so was it really your actions or was it fate always controlling it, fate for me is like time travel, two very tricky things to explain on an agreeable level
1:01:33 when sindri struggles to give up the ring that would become Draupnir. It's actually a thing in Norse mythz that ring is addictive to the wearer/holder. Drives them crazy and after too long they can't give it up, dwarves are particularly susceptible to this which is why brok helps him put the ring in the bag. Just fine little details real Norse myth nerds would notice and I love it
I think you've got draupnir confused with fafnir's ring, cause draupnir is a throw away line in the story of thor's hamrr
There’s a great irony in that Atreus loses his temper and runs to Asgard because Kratos is trying to tell him who he is supposed to be, only to immediately seek out someone else to tell him who he’s supposed to be. Most of the obstacles in this game come from Atreus constantly rebelling against authority, but simultaneously refusing to follow through and take responsibility and agency. It’s only when he finally decides to define his own path that the heroes make progress.
You just a described a teenager
@@vindovilles3419 No shit. Atreus is up there with Ellie from TLoU as one of the best written children in video games.
@@corynydam2361 nah Ellie ain't that great
Also, I'd like to point out that Kratos's last dream of Faye doesn't result in him jarring awake. Instead, he wakes slowly and calmly. Not sure what it means. I'm not philosophical enough to know.
Edit: Also, I have to add that the scene where Kratos blows Gjallarhorn and the music swells as the camera turns to see every realm travel door glowing their own colors sent chills down my spine and gave me goosebumps. Amazing work to everyone involved.
One little detail I noticed. The moment Odin reaches out to Atreus in the beginning, Kratos grabs the Axe's handle. Talk about protector.
I think when it comes to Thor’s backstory, it’s expressed through Thrud and Sif. In game if Atreus listens in on Sif and Thor’s conversation they actually sound genuine in a way that makes you feel for the family. They lost Magni and Modi however Sif understood it was under Odin’s order they were sent to their deaths. She during the entire game has been trying to have Thor understand too. There was even a conversation where Sif pointed out how Thor was being used by Odin and though he knew, it still hurt to hear and she regretted saying it immediately. Compared to Gods we heard have affairs, or the mini sex games Kratos went through, Sif and Thor display a very good marriage for the most part. Just like how Kratos loves Faye it’s the same with Thor and Sif.
Thanks for making me cry again. Sindri’s loss hit me hard. Really hard. I couldn’t put my finger on it. Then I remembered. I asked for GOW 2005 for my birthday. I didn’t play it until about a week later. This was because on my birthday instead of a party I got a funeral. My grandfather’s funeral.
Everyone experiences grief differently. What you forgot to mention is you also have to learn how. I raged. Not outwardly but inwardly. I wanted to destroy something beautiful for having something beautiful taken anyways. A week later I unenthusiastically blew out my birthday candle, and the shrink wrap came off.
Kratos became my avatar for the rage I needed to let go. It gave me focus figuring out the combat. It gave me strength through progression. It gave me a connection through Kratos as he too lost close family. As the bodies piled up my mood finally softened to the point that the game became a game again. So to end the game with a character in a similar situation really hit me. I know it’s pure coincidence that thing came somewhat full circle for me. You though, I’m not sure that matters.
To quote death herself, we get what everybody gets. A lifetime. That thought beings me peace. The rage is no longer necessary. I chose now to celebrate how they chose to spend their lifetime. Who said comics and video games are throw away media.
1:16:06 , that reminds me of a fun fact about Metal Gear Snake Eater, when EVA tries to kiss Naked Snake he does'nt responds to the kiss, the scrip said they were ment to kiss in that scene but the mo-cap actor had never done romance scenes before and froze and the director kept it in.
I let Loki and Angroboda sit there for quite a while before I moved them. I knew things would only be downhill so I let Loki have some time together
I saw someone say that if you look at Angrboda for a little while at the part, that the camera focuses on her in Atreus' pov. Did you experience this?
That right hook Kratos lands on Thor and his reaction after said right hook gave me chills. Almost as if he didn’t want to exchange that power when being intentionally antagonized. He wants to be a better man, god, father. Almost as if he scared himself. This game is a god damn masterpiece.
fun fact: you can go back later in the game and find the tooth that Thor pulls out and tosses on the ice.
How ?
Being to that place twice already and couldn't find anything
@@OutCast907 its very small but its there.
Next to the frozen lightning.
One detail I noticed while playing is Thor snaps his fingers to recall Mjolnir, like he's summoning an attack dog.
But once or twice, he just opens his hand and Mjolnir comes of its own volition. In those moments Thor isn't commanding, more like he's actually asking for Mjolnir to come to him.
The reason Kratos refused Odin's offer was because of when he mentioned 'settling a debt' with Freya.
At the very least, the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Also, Kratos doesn't trust gods, especially scheming ones. If Thor had offered peace, he probably would have taken it coming from a fellow warrior.
@@Kinos141 and Kratos believed Mimir's Tales about Odin because he himself has experienced the exact same woth Zeus
Freya is already pissed off at him.
if he took that deal, then she'd be *REALLY* pissed off at him.
I'd have been done as of him saying Magni and Modi were useless. Dude, those were your GRANDSONS, and you just said that in front of their FATHER. Anyone who so casually disregards and discards his family...
Considering we find out Faye had the capability to be as much of a furious and strong warrior as Kratos, it makes since why she had such a presence.
2:06 I already know bro got so happy when NG+ came
11:15 another thing I wanted to add that after you complete the game, the last trophy is titled “The Bear and the Wolf”
Santa Monica before the games release was so excited to deliver it to us, they claimed they poured everything, their heart and soul into this game, and I truly felt the magic they imbued. They can make a true work of art, and I'm glad to be able to live in a time where they are not only delivering it to us, but they are alive to be recognized for their beauty and skill. Most famous artists, in any craft, are often not recognized for their works until they are no longer with us and are often criticized while they are alive. Santa Monica Studios truly deserves every bit of love and empathy for their works of art.
One thing i have noticed about Karatos' fight with Heimdell is technique. Being a very devoted fighting game player i can attest to being dedicated to making my main a muscle memory. You get to make moves without even thinking about it, and that makes chains unpredictable. Heimdell uses his power to predict minds and act accordingly, so he must read what his opponents think before they act. But Kratos being a master fighter, his moves are natural to him as breathing. His movements aren't as unpredictable as it is random. His body just knows how to move and add new chains without thinking them in his mind before having to add them. You'll see that his "combos" start about the same, he just adds into them with each initiation. Kratos just had to add enough for Heimdell to not react to it fast enough. Heimdell knows how to fight, but his power prevents him from improving it further.
The end credits (after Broks Funeral) with Bear’s “Blood Upon The Snow” made me speechless, I was so invested in this game, and I couldn’t believe it was done, I 100% the game and that was my last quest
I still can't believe no one is talking about the absolute win that is showing Kratos is still afraid of loosing his son like he lost his daughter. His dream sequence (Briefly mentioned 1:06:43) where he holds his son after Faye hands him to Kratos and she disappears, the way that she and Baby Atreus vanish is similar to how Calliope and Lysandra vanished in the GoW Ascension trailer. The look of genuine fear and trauma that Kratos falls into is so heartbreaking and you really resonate with him here, you as the player also don't want to lose Atreus either, you want him to be safe and to stop pursuing Odin for answers because we knew something was wrong.
I just had to get that off my chest, god this game is so good!
Sindri's downward spiral after Brock's death was so heartbreaking, especially since we don't see any sign of him coming out of it any time soon. It's too real and gets me every time.
I’M GLAD SOMEONE IS AS MAD AS ME ABOUT THE CLOAK!!!!!
I was so excited to wear it ALL GAME! I love cape/cloak stuff!😭😭😭
I was cursing at Freya for making me lose my drip 😂
Odin is designed so perfect its almost impossible to dislike him even though you know what he's done and is willing to do they absolutely nailed making him seem like a kind wise old man on the surface even though you know you can't trust him
I had a theory that when Kratos was talking about the old man and the logs, the story he tells to Atreus; Kratos was talking about his commitment to Ares. Like Kratos in the old games would bring his Spartans to battle but in the end when he was about to die he asked Ares (death in context) to help him, and Ares gave him the blades of chaos which would be representing the logs in the story.
That’s actually pretty creative
Something I didn't notice during my playthrough, and a connection I made after you pointed out Ingrid blocking Mjolnir during the bar fight. 1:18:34, Ingrid blocks Thor from hitting Atreus with Mjolnir as he escapes. So after not only blocking the hammer during the drunken brawl, Ingrid was also able to block a full on hit from Thor.
Damn, no wonder Odin stole her from Freyr
Freyr is destined to kill Surtr ffs
@@grimmywizard Not in this canon.
She also blocks Mjolnir when Thor actually tries to hit Atreus in Niflheim.
@@Jenna_Talia she? Weapons have genders now?
Just finished watching this. As a dev in the game, you made me cry. Thank you 🙏
You did an absolutely amazing job. Thank you man
Oh wow! Great Job man! You guys are truly the 🐐's of gaming!🥂❤
oh yeah you're the G man. Real G!! Thanks for your service in one of the most memorable and awesome games of a lifetime
You as a Dev, you made us cry. What a masterpiece of storytelling. Thank You 🙏
That's cool. Can you suggest a part where Sindri says, "The answer to Broks riddle?"What gets bigger the more you take away from it" is a greedy, rotten, selfish God just like Odin." Anyways, good job with the game..😁
1:06:28
Another detail here to point it is WHY he breaks here. He believes he has lost everything he has, he KNOWS it is through his own actions, he KNOWS that if he does not change then he will never get his son back, but for just a moment, just a single moment, he believes the Norns. He believes that he CANNOT change. And THAT is what finally breaks him.
the hugging scene reminded me of the hesitation of touch between the two since they had that distance between them, but now, even with odin trying to distance them again, atreus immediately goes for a big hug and kratos' confusion is not out of surprise, but of concern.
Also at 11:42 I love that Kratos says no because the last time he thought like a General he ended up becoming The Ghost Of Sparta and he doesn’t want to become that again with Atreus. And at 18:10 when he gets brought back it’s the curse bestowed upon him since he has to live with the acts he’s committed “fate” won’t let him die.
Kratos using Zeus‘ line (so much to do, so much to rebuild) at the end but in an entirety different context hits so hard
I love the detail when Surter says “Have you ever been in love?”
Atreus looks at Kratos 😂
It reminds me of when the doctors ask “Are you (cough) active” when your parents are in the room.
Hahaha, I've been there and done that😂
I'm going to be honest. There were so many moments that brought me to tears. This game made me feel so many emotions with just how great the game is, and after I beat the game and I was walking down that mountain. I fully started to cry. This just made me realize how much I have seen Kratos go through and how I also grew with him. I even related to him with dealing with my past and controlling rage. All in all. This game completely broke me in a good way, I am sad that this might be the last we see of Kratos, but I also think it's about time we let him rest. His story is over, and we experienced every little bit of it. Finally seeing Kratos getting his own happy ending.
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Think of it. Sony owns GOW obv, all they have to do is be perfect and make a perfect movie. It’s Sony, they can.
I don't think his story is over (well maybe) but i heard rumors that the next game will take in Egypt. Not sure yet...
I think the absolute highlight of Kratos' journey in these two games was when he calls Mimir Brother. Mimir called him that from the moment they first met, feeling that they were similar in some way, and that they'd understand eachother in time. Then at the end of Ragnarok, Kratos finally admits how much he needed Mimir to be there for him, and the two of them adressing each other as brother is just a really touching moment
Also, Týr's voice is awesome. I expected a big, booming voice and got a nice, calm voice, perfect for who he is now; further proven when you find the real one in each realm as the "God of Tai Chi"
Idk if anyone else in the comments mentioned this, but when Freya speaks to Odin while choking him during the final battle, she uses the same phrases Baulder told her during HIS final fight in the previous game, with a few subtle differences, definitely worth a win in my book, shows Freya was indeed able to see past vengeance and her own rage, not unlike her son, who died for that exact reason, despite given the chance to back away.
The mead being dragged across Mjolnir could also be a slight reference to Norse Pagan tradition of consecrating your Mjolnir with mead
One of the game directors, Eric Williams, pointed out that the scratch that Heimdall gets from that first punch kratos lands is from the ring on his right hand. So even in its basic ring form it's being used to beat Heimdall's ass
Plus the setup of the punch itself. Kratos becomes faster every time and repeats a combo where he had to block him except he grabs his blocking arm to pull him into the punch so he can't dodge. Fantastic.
When you said that not having Atreus after the game made you wonder how he would react to the side stuff, and it made me think about how when you do the side stuff with him and then lose him afterwards with him, the hole is even bigger because theres more stuff afterwards that you really wish he was there for because of how much he was there for already
Some small details I loved about the final Thor fight: Thor gets wounded in the stomach by all three of Kratos' weapons, Kratos deals the final blow to his hand with one of the knives he carved when Atreus was a baby (another weapon linked to a family member), and Mjolnir and Leviathan directly clash several times because they're equal in power. I also love how in the final axe vs hammer clash, Kratos gets the upper hand with each swing; first matching Thor, then knocking him back, then sending Mjolnir flying out of his hand. And to top it all off, when Thor recalls Mjolnir it slowly drags along the ground instead of flying to his hand. It's as if even Mjolnir is tired from that fight, especially since it just lost in a clash with the weapon created to match it.
You’re speech at the end was absolutely beautiful, i almost shed a tear
Truly inspirational
I would've loved more Surtr, his performance is among the most underrated in the whole game
Good old Surtr. Not a very sophisticated or eloquent man, but a worthy one.
The Most chill, fire God. Had to check the credits to make sure it wasn't Jeff Bridges
There was meant to be. Sinmara was meant to be ragnarok