#19: INTJ - The Genius
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- IN THIS EPISODE: Who is the Genius? What is their strengths and stressors? How do you work with the employees with this personality? What is their best job fit? How are they visionary? How do they react to micromanaging? What will they bring into a work place? LINKS MENTIONED: Learn your personality profile Personality Store Interested in working with Chuck & Timogi? Want to know more about Chuck Taylor, Optimization Coach? Want to know more about Timogi Jackson, Empowerment Specialist? Apply to be on the show. ABOUT OUR CO-HOSTS: Timogi Jackson is a certified life coach and The Empowerment Specialist with Sage Garden Care Center.
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I'm here for an EGO boost.
belal noor same
we all are XD
Me too 😂
Ditto, but was married to an ENTJ. Love hearing the differences the one little "e" makes, but it's the best combination ever, rest his soul.
Lol, it feels like I'm stroking my own ego
We're not rigid. You just have to use logic or show a better way of doing things in order to convince us to change direction. We are quite open minded. 🙄
Typically they don't even listen when you explain why your plain Is better. And after they call you closed minded. 🤔
Ahhh.. the differences between open and active minds..
The key word is "convince" not just cause lol
Exactly
For me, I'd say I'm "rigid" in not being swayed by emotion over logic. So far no one has convinced to me this is a problem. On the same token, I am not without emotion.
INTJs often don't like praise because other people's standards are rarely, if ever, as high as their own. So to hear "good job" from someone, even someone in a position of authority, is relatively meaningless to an INTJ. "Yep, I know," is our internal (and sometimes external) response. It's actually MUCH more endearing to be critical of our work, because if we actually haven't thought of something or have made a mistake, we want to know that so that we do not make that mistake again. You gain much more respect from an INTJ by pointing out something they've missed, because it happens to us so rarely.
I've been berated by people so many times who say thank you to me and I either nod or I say no problem. They expected, "you're welcome" as is custom, but I hate customs to begin with. If you didn't challenge me, then I really don't care that I solved your problem, I think even at 38 I still give people more credit than they deserve. If you present a problem that I have to think about and solve, then when you say thank you, I say no, thank you. I know this comment looks condescending to most people, but this is how my brain processes that type of interaction. Just to add to the condescension, if you berate me, I don't even care. If you ever ask for help again, I will consider whether solving the problem is worth putting up with you again, but most of the time I just like solving problems anyway.
Jeremy B I find praise sounds patronising in general then I think lowly of them
Jeremy B Soooo true
Jeremy B if we are not happy with our work, praise from people sounds so fake even though they may not be giving fake praises .. at the same time .. when we get praise for something that we are extremely proud of, we are like “I know” :) we don’t mean it in an arrogant way through ..
I've always wondered why I tell my husband all the time I don't want anyone to praise me for anything ever. I could never figure out the reason why until reading this post... Yep I have no doubt I'm an INTJ now...lol
Interesting how the INTJ video has wayyy more views than the other types. Here we all are lol
I theorize that INTJs are naturally drawn towards MBTI since it's a helpful tool for creating order in people. INTJs also like to be told that they are special since they are always seeking meaning so it's no surprise they watch the most videos about their own type.
I think because we are the most curious of all.
@@AustinPowerz-bn5ry With the intp.
All the other types are outside having friends
Because we want answers and knowledge is answer.
An immature intj will face many challenges. A mature intj is unstoppable.
This is so true.
We INTJs love to listen to anything and everything about INTJs. A bit narcissistic, perhaps, but oh well. lol
Great take on the type, I have to say. Thank for this.
I agree lol... I can see the video statistics (of views) support your comment too - it's the most viewed out of all the other MBTI podcasts on this TH-cam channel. I think the greatest challenge I have as an INTJ is understanding and processing everything in my own head before I can communicate with the world around me. This makes me feel out of touch sometimes and others who don't know me well think I appear aloof to the outside world. I think INTJ's biggest advantage and challenge is being an INTJ.
What I think because of the lack of acknowledgement we get from our closed circle we intend to fulfill this needs by listening such things. The world owes us a lot ^_^
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Not narcissist but confident :D
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Your photo and name tells me you're not an INTJ. Js
Beware of Barnum Effect. Lol.
What really SUCKS is that in America the whole ‘do you get along in a team?’ question is DEATH to an INTJ (especially female like myself).
It’s really unfair to us as INTJs that we basically have to force ourselves to be “likeable” in order to make it in the work world. Especially if you’re like me and want to be in the Human Services fields. Now I have learned over time to just fake it and pretend I’m interested when I’m not necessarily into the person.
It takes a lot of mental real estate to make sure everyone else around me is emotionally okay and I ‘get along’ with everyone.
This is likely why INTJs end up needing our own stuff and careers so we don’t have to force ourselves to be in a group that we don’t want to be in. We like groups but only if we choose to BE in the group.
Being forced to be in a group for the sake of it is a problem.
Chuck Taylor...thanks for the reply. Yes, I’ve learned to stretch myself and use the emotional side of myself to make connections so people don’t view my INTJness as a bad thing.
It is hard for us females INTJs because we are *not* to supposed to be mental focused. Make INTJs aren’t seen as bitchy or mean instead they’re assertive and bold. But for a woman INTJ it’s even harder because society says we aren’t supposed to “think” the way we do.
Ugh....and don’t get me started on romantic relationships. So hard being a quote unquote ‘genius’ but not being able to find someone or a group of people who understands us.
Sooo true, my boss said I didn't look "happy" enough the other day, honestly pissed me off. I hate being fake, and my boss is as fake as it gets
I really feel you. Im learning to stretch too. I explained myself that this will be just useful in my life to get to know new people. I also try to not strike people off so fast as i tend to and try to see something interesting in every person im dealing with. I have made huge progress.
why? I dont understand why even be a participant in those society constraints.
Ugh. Why do I have to be likeable? I'm KNOWLEDGEABLE. Isn't that enough?
"I have forgotten more than you will ever know" - INTJ
I'm using that for my next job interview
I think I actually said somewhen and I'm only 16
@@GeekNewz ok and what if you're 16, nobody cares if you're 16, your age doesn't matter your mind is the same we're all the same no matter age
@@teamcanaloficial8358 yea but my point was mostly that in the very few years i am alive i already said it
I think it should be more like "I have over analysed and forgotten more than you have ever noticed"
I forget poeple s names 2 min after they interduce themselves
You mean, you have intensely focused your attention on the content of what they are saying, instead of trivial things like names, right?! LOL
Knowing a person's name is entirely irrelevant. Knowing what purpose they serve, or what they have to offer in terms of information or effort - towards progress - is all that matters. Prove their worth and they have unlocked that part of my brain that will acknowledge their existence. If not? Efficiency! I saved that mental energy and can apply it towards an objective rather than squandering it on trivial nothingness.
I am horrible with names.. but, I can list the endless ways a person's actions have either supported or contradicted their own words.
To stick with the presented metaphor, I'm quite content to hang out on the mountaintop and stay out of the foggy valleys of pretentious zombies. All that senseless drama? No thanks.
@@chrisvaughn4399 Spoken like a clearly defined INTJ.
@@chrisvaughn4399 I appreciate this reply Chris. As an ENFP, I would take a very different stance. I remember people's names well, and using them helps some people feel good, feel valued, and to open up. Some might consider it manipulation, but I want to build trust with others so we can get to the heart of whatever issue needs to be discussed. Remembering names is just an easy way of doing that. It seems similar to what you do when acknowledge the progress another has been made. People gravitate to those they believe care. You thoughts here are valuable, because everyone is not a Feeler and we need all people to make the world better. Thank you for sharing.
I don't even listen when they say their name
All us INTJs need to know each other. It's a real need for our world. Hook us up.
Lol
Start a Faceboook group
that sounds exhausting, better not thank you ;) lol
I’m down
I'd love to have meeting groups of INTJ. It sounds like the making of a weird sitcom. The sarcasm could be amazing.
As a female of this personality type, this is so spot on... and nice to know other people can see past the fact that we may come off arrogant but it’s really just that we know what the hell we are doing and talking about.
Nice! 😆
Knowing what you're talking about doesn't preclude you from being arrogant. That's the thing about narcissists, they tend not to realize that they're narcissists.
77Night77Shade77 Narcissists are not unaware for any other reason besides pure ignorance and lack of insight. This is what separates this personality type from narcissistic behavior... we are fully aware that we may be portrayed as arrogant.. however the results of being correct 10X’s out of 10 is important enough for us to minimize how we may be perceived, in order to continue to strive to be the best at what we do.
Hmm, nope, that really doesn't change anything and a narcissist could say the exact same thing you just said, about other people. Besides, you're just going one step further, that's all. First, I basically said it was possible for you to be a narcissist, because narcissists don't realize they're narcissists. Now you're saying you're not a narcissist, because you have the insight that narcissists don't have. Well, how do you know that you have that insight? Aside from that, INTJ is actually the type that is most strongly linked to narcissistc personality disorder.
77Night77Shade77 Well that’s your opinion that it doesn’t make a difference. Psychologically speaking, narcissists lack enough insight and self awareness to admit that they come off as arrogant. Narcissism and denile go hand in hand. Narcissism is a personality disorder, so in other words, you are suggesting those of the INTJ personality type have a biological predisposition of NPD. That’s sheer ignorance, but you are entitled to you opinion.
As an INTJ, I have struggled to understand why people make things in the work place personal by bringing their feelings into it. Now I remind myself, that everyone is different and can bring value, even when their feelings get on my nerves and they take forever to grasp certain things. 😂🤣
I call that type of people either normies OR work force
There are some people who will never get it, no matter how you say it to them. Be straight forward, olain English or dumbed down, they won't get it. And then there's the morons who try to be manipulative and try to say you said something completely different from what you actually said in plain English.
I’m an INTJ who was raised in a feeler family,
Guys be careful of using your feeling function too much it can lead to you doubting your Ni and cause depression.
Be aware of Fi but don’t trade Te to satisfy other people who expect you to speak their language but won’t return the favour.
My point being that a lot of feeler will ask why you can’t be more considerate but they won’t do the same for you and be more rational.
Spot on. I have struggled with this so much.
I was raised by parents who gave me the information, told me how to use it for what ever project, and left me alone to do it. They indulged my need for Mathematics and Science. The hard part of them was that they were super athletic, and did every sport in the world (it seemed) and were good at it. They were 'party animals', and were always dancing (yep, even in the kitchen, and kissing all the time.....I had a permanent Wednesday stare), but they left me alone. Good parents.
Great point. Doubt is our kryptonite. Everyone (INTJs included) see everyone else through their own cognitive process order. We all think everyone else should think just like us and we all try to make others be just like us. From the INTJ perspective (and introverts in general) extroverted feelers tend to shout the loudest which can leave the INTJ questioning why we can't just fit into the "non-thinking" world majority. And to the point the co-host continues to press, many people do like to work for us once they figure out we can help them fill their gaps just like the extroverted feeler (MC and SME) helps us (by doing work like this podcast). We are reluctant leaders because we know most people say they want to improve, but would rather talk about how the problem makes them feel than the solution which requires rational processing.
This video really hit home for me. I am a female high school science teacher. It confuses the young men when they try to flatter me or change the subject to get out of some assignment, and it never works. The greatest compliment I hear about me is, "She ain't playing about her work! Don't even try it!" 😄
I love my students but had a hard time years ago trying to connect until I realized most people thrive on their feelings.
I have since learned to make a personal connection so that students will perform. If they like you, they do well. I think this is sad, but it's true.
Most don't have internal motivation and want to know what they will get out of it. I thought learning just to know was a reward in itself. Stupid me.
I am an INTJ female about to embark on becoming a Science/Health teacher and while working as an Integration Aide at a school I learnt the same thing, I have to connect emotionally and build rapport in order to be successful in my role. Thank you for sharing and I get the whole not being played comment! lol. Everything goes through the logical process first with me :)
Learning is so fun!
INTJ - the most misunderstood personality type. I am, at least... it’s the most frustrating thing ever.
being misunderstood is the worst feeling you can have. It can literally give you a feeling of feeling pain.
I am struggling with this issue especially bc I'm an INTJ and an empath. Hard world but also shows me that I have more potential.
Dude misunderstood is an understatement. I'd go with "recklessly disregarded".
@@AustinPowerz-bn5ry I agree, it hurts.
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I felt that-
I get accused, misunderstood and blamed for no reason most of the time :(
Less than 2% percent of the population has our type of personality, so is pretty logical...
I have no problem with my feelings, there is just a time and place for that.
INTJs tend to have a problem with our emotions because they are not logical, so they are ignored or dismissed and a not being useful for problem solving.
My feelings are the one thing I can't communicate to people in a way that they can understand, so usually I don't. Generally my feelings are pretty irrelevant, rude or simply disjointed so I keep them to myself. Every once in a while a person will get to hear how I feel and it's usually not very pretty.
@@epistte as an intj I disagree. We definitely feel the emotions but if we don't deal with the problem by TEMPORARILY putting our emotions to the side it will spiral out of control. So we deal with the source of the upsetting emotions so that we can then process what happened. I personally have anxiety so I have to do this otherwise I'll have a breakdown
We're not rigid, we are open to your other way of doing things but unless they're better than our way of doing things (Which, most of the time they aren't) then why would we follow a less effective/efficient way?
Would it be nice if someone would or could actually come up with a plan or conclude that problem.. lol
true. I also would love to jump on board on someone's idea if they explain it in detail with adherence to logic and rationality of course.
I forget a lot too sometimes I forget to eat meals
Ive had days like that. I was so focused on a task I look down and its 9:00pm and I haven't eaten in 12+ hours.
I had the same problem, and that causes me digestive and liver problems, now i have a very scheduled nutrition and rest and things are ok, we focused too much on our activities and forget daily rutines like eating or rest.
I don't like to receive praise. It makes me very uncomfortable. I do like a simple "thank you" or to have my qualities and/or skills acknowledged in a concise manner.
I hate it when I'm doubted on my ideas. People often assume that I haven't looked at all the options when I have. As you said, typically the only time I haven't considered a better solution is because I'm lacking information, which frustrates me. Then, I'm left with the thought, "well, why the hell didn't you tell me that?!"
I do quickly lose trust and respect quite easily when I know someone is withholding information from me, or even worse, lying to me. This is unfortunate when I receive this treatment from someone at a higher position. It makes it harder for me to perform well and interact with them.
Totally agree with you
Well said. Thank yo for sharing.
Oh God... Receiving any kind of praise makes me wanna disappear into the thin air. Weird cuz "others" feel like this when being given negative feedback.... and negative feedback make me question myself on a fundamental level. But I tend to question myself a lot no matter what because it is a fact that people are easily blind to themselves... 🙄
Facts. I hate confidence in assumptions. What makes a wanna be nemesis assume I did not think the strategy through? And it usually leads to me appear as an asshole when I openly place my plan/though/strategy under the microscope... and of course the very "colleague" that was sowing seeds of doubt.
I can't count how many times a person was my supervisor, gave me a task to complete, and left out valuable information.
Offgoing supervisor: I want you to fill the green box and send it off.
Me: got it, boss.
Oncoming supervisor: I want you to fill the red box and send it off.
Me: I was given different instructions from the offgoing supervisor.
Oncoming supervisor: never mind that. THIS needs to get done.
Me: got it, boss.
The next day all hell breaks loose.
Offgoing supervisor: who the hell do you think you are? You need to follow instructions! This was a very important project that (fill in the blank) ... and they needed the thing by..... etc.
Me: You did not give me that information initially. AND you did not share it with the oncoming supervisor as well. In addition, after telling the oncoming supervisor of my previous instructions, they did not contact you. In their position as a fellow supervisor they had your home phone number, I did not.
"They're rigid..." and "...frustratingly...they tend to be right...". Yes, see how that works?
I'm an INTJ and I can see myself buying a car for my assistant if that same scenario happened. We really do have hearts of gold though. Our love and care run deep. But we have to be the originator of showing our love. If you try to manipulate it out of us it WILL BACKFIRE ON YOU.
I have never heard myself described so well. Both blessings and curses. I feel like most people I know think I'm quirky or even just weird. Of course, I work with primarily extroverted personality types which exhaust me most days. This is me in 17 minutes. Thank you for this.
I think the reason so many InTJs like to learn about themselves is because they are so misunderstood and even maligned. Though we don't need as much attention, it can still be a little lonely. You have to be your own validation because the world will withhold it.
Yes we are EXTREMELY PASSIONATE about the issues we are passionate about.
The INTJ is not a genuis, we just think harder on things
Different from INTPs, when you put two INTJs together they'll try very very hard to kill each other.
Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty?
We won't kill each other... It may with one of us crashed but it can also end with duel dictatorship over the world... until one betrays the other but the other already planned for his betrayl and counters it and takes the throne for himself
I’ve never met another INTJ in real life.
I actually find other INTJs quite cool with me. I feel like they understand me quite well and they stay focused and keen in talking where most others would have found a way to feel offended already.
I am not a genius but I am a genius. Only a genius will understand that
Deepity bs.
"A deepity is a proposition that seems to be profound because it is actually logically ill-formed. It has (at least) two readings and balances precariously between them. On one reading it is true but trivial." rationalwiki.org/wiki/Deepity
@@chucktaylor6305 I am not the genius here. I have nothing against your podcast.
I think you are misunderstanding me entirely. I am not talking to you. My initial comment was directed at Zuleta Takaramaru so I am not sure why you even feel the need to intervene. The comment he made is a logical contradiction and utterly meaningless of the form ~P /\ P ==> P. It is like saying Not True and True implies True. It doesn't make any sense. It is just a meaningless statement that can be interpreted however the reader of the statement desires. If you Google new-age bullshit generator you will get similar statements to: "I am not a genius but I am a genius. Only a genius will understand that", total circular logical bovine excrement! It is the same bullshit people spout that want to sound deep like "reality is an illusion".
Fair enough man.
We are not rigid! This is incorrect, we are among the most open minded of all types when it comes to finding solutions. If we are presented with new information that makes our plan infeasible we will immediately change our plan to accommodate the new information and or facts! You need to correct your video. Best regards.
Sincerely
A concerned and open minded INTJ.
This is quite the ironic response, don't you think? Not rigid at all (tongue placed firmly in cheek). My statement is mostly embedded in the way INTJ's are perceived, as you have eloquently displayed here.
I find that many INTJ's are quite rigid in their thinking (as compared to other personality types). Not, because they are not open to finding new solutions, but because they believe they have already considered all the solutions. So, when someone brings new information the source can sometimes be considered before the content. Therefore the idea of someone who has been erratic, emotionally charged, or nonsensical in the past, might very well be discounted before being considered. I acknowledge that this is a broad generalization. While you are correct that they open to new information, that information goes through a lot of rigor and scrutiny (as maybe it should) before being justly considered. Meanwhile content can be overlooked.
There is a light and dark side to every personality type. Once we embrace both we can find the healthiest versions of ourselves. Thank you for sharing, I do appreciate the feedback.
Rigid can also mean stubborn and difficult to change once we've set our mind to do something.
@@Fonch117 Thank you for your response. And herein lies the rub. As compared to other personality types the standards used by INTJ's for providing quality new information can seem quite rigid. I agree with your precept, however, I have found that many, if not most, INFJ's find it frustrating to work with others who do not meet their standards of excellence. It is not that everyone is incompetent, nor it is that INTJ's are unsociable or unwilling to work with others. It is simply that often, two different methodologies are being employed for the same task. I hope that makes sense.
@@Fonch117 Depends if you cannot give us a good reason or opposing evidence to counter our claim or our ideas why should anyone not just an INTJ change their stance? People don't work this way, if however there is some form of evidence is presented and it need not be empirical it could be subjective if one can present a strong enough argument taking in the situation you could persuade an INTJ the same way you could any thinking non close minded person. Some good examples of this type of thinking and wall banging include politics, religion or other forms of cultish beliefs. We just require this type of argument we are not one to just jump on the bandwagon of anything we don't think worth our time nothing rigid about it, you want rigid from an INTJ try and get him to do something they view wrong and there you will find an immovable object.
@@Donbd83 What I said was never against anything you wrote buddy. I know. I am INTJ... and we are one of the most stubborn mbti's once we put our mind to something. That's why we tend to be high achievers! We find a goal and we don't give up easily.
I worked in the HR department for a big company. when I left, i got replaced by 2 people to keep up with the workload.
Then I worked for a startup company and guess what?! When I left, I got replaced by at least 3 people!!!
NEVER underestimate an INTJ - We are willing to give literally 300% in work but if we don't get the necessary reward, we will lose our respect to what we believe and leave 👐
I'm an INTJ. I would say I'm open minded most of the time. However, We tend to be firm on what we believe that we're deemed as arrogant. Other people misjudge being frank/straightforward as being rude. Being too logical means we tend to be void of emotion. And I think most people perceive differently our actions in a negative way. And I get that. We based our decisions on facts rather than emotion and some mistook it as lack of empathy. Sure it's hard to be an INTJ.
I believe that humanity as a whole needs hope/ feelings to survive. INTJs are mostly about logic, reason, facts, and knowledge. Humanity can survive without those things, but it won't ascend to a higher level without it. Essentially it would be a dark age all over again. There is also an argument for technology advancing faster than morality or maturity.
Well, OK, I'll come down the mountain. Just don't think my 'friendly' approach means we are now truly friends. 👿
Well stated reflection of most INTJ's I presume. LOL
It describes me so well, while I am in a team :D
Exactly, well said. We are NOT condescending on purpose. It’s how we are.
That “take care of your machines for maximum utilization” thing was very good. 👍
I think the quote is along the lines of, "If you can't explain something simply, you don't understand it well enough."
Don't praise me, Raise me! THAT will make me enjoy the praises, otherwise it's just annoying.
-an INTJ
Thank you for your podcast! This was pretty spot on in a lot of areas. Just need to correct something said here. In several of the descriptions, it seems like the speaker is describing an immature or young INTJ. For example, it's pretty obvious that to get the best out of our team we are going to need to learn how to explain the plan well to them and take their feelings into account out of respect for them as human beings. I am actually extremely good at explaining, teaching and training and am often called upon to do so at work (and back in college as well). I have conducted several trainings over new software to various teams and I have always thought this was one of the skills that INTJs do best, being able to take the complex and help others understand it. Just yesterday I was told that I am the "nicest and easiest person to work with". She is a colleague a level above me (she's a manager and I'm not) and had been asking for my advice in composing a business process document. The other members on our team have been more impatient with her but I saw no point in that. I just wanted to help her so we could get the job done and get it done well. The other 2 members of the team are my managers (her peers) and are an ENTP and an ISFJ and they have had a TON of frustration working with her. But I have actually been the one who succeeded in smoothing some things over and try to help everyone not get too worked up but instead stay focused on getting the best product possible and not underestimating her or questioning her motives. And it paid off because she came out finally with a good product that she just needed a little explanation and encouragement to achieve.
The INTJ DOES recognize that it is important to try to understand people's feelings. Not only do we CARE about the feelings of others, but we recognize that is just part of achieving the goal which is usually to make the world a better place in one way or another. And the world includes people who have feelings so it's stupid of an INTJ to ignore that variable. Now, granted, it's not our first go-to thought when we are in the middle of our "zone". But when we are acting deliberately, we DO take people's feelings into account, at least I do as a 51-year old female INTJ. I studied psychology in college and have continued to do so my entire life because I was driven and desired to understand people and improve my relationships. Granted, I did not have a clue about people's feelings when I was younger simply because it just wasn't on my radar nor would I have ever expected people to walk on eggshells around me. That never would have crossed my mind. But a mature INTJ will definitely have learned the value of feelings, their own and those of others. If we find out we've hurt someone, it DOES make us feel bad because we are always trying to do good in the world and the last thing we want is to hurt somebody. We just get oblivious to people's feelings sometimes simply because our focus is on solving some problem and we get that tunnel vision there.
Yes, to all of this!
Internal feelings about the outside, greater world drive INTJ processing and creativity. I just want other people to make sense, and get out of my way to help the company, its employees, and the world function more effectively, efficiently, and happily. We don't need much praise, just acknowledge our ideas and work.
This is a great perspective. INTJ's can be very loyal and helpful to the cause. And a little acknowledgement can go a long way. Thank you for the thoughts.
This is probably one of the best descriptions I've heard. Thank you.
It's sad how many employers equate being introverted as being unassertive, incompetent or simply a wild beast who doesn't understand social dynamics. Funny how they talk about diversity so much and yet in terms of personality they're all the same (E's and F's in my profession) and self select. They don't realise that other types could add a lot of value to the process and decision making. A little bit of strategic thinking and logic could hell them out. Needless to say I am experienced in group work and I know how to successfully collaborate
Dennis, unfortunately I have to agree with you. Too often leaders are looking for people that make them feel comfortable and encouraging towards their agenda. "Yes-people" as I call them are too often not who you need in a crisis. Moreover, those who are willing to thoughtfully tell the truth, without jumping over one another may very well help keep you out of a crisis. Thank you for your response.
the last remark about other people saying "thank you" is all i needed. it makes me almost barf hearing "genius" over and over. almost as if to the point of mockery
It can be difficult for an intj in the workplace, frustrating. We have the answer to fix an issue, while the others on the team are still just at the start. So we have to sit through all of their conversations instead of getting the thing fixed. I already have the correct answer, you all can sit here and discuss it, I'll be over here fixing it for you.
INTJ's dont need praise, we want & sometimes need recognition.
Not bad. Here's some unsolicited advice from a former know-it-all.......
- Be careful of the ideas you cultivate and nurture.
- Expecting others to live up to your capabilities/standards is unreasonable.
- Explore the 'I'dentity. Are you the mind? Body? ..............
- Be brave. Have courage. Allow those profound emotions to be experienced.
- Enjoy the moment. The mind can be regulated peaceably. It is a tool with a function.
- 'You' have always been perfect. Sort it out. Remember. Doing so is easier than it seems.
- Love y'all. Namaste.
I'm no genius but I have an amazing intuition and discernment.
Einstein said, "if you can't explain a complicated issue, to a small child in a way that they can understand it,
You don't understand the issue."
(Not word for word but very close)
we'll ɡet our hands dirty, we do work just fine, but we can be dismissive and seeminɡly disinterested in people, also people sometimes think we are manipulitive. We are stronɡly independent and need to maintain are ideas as are own which is why we are seen as controllinɡ. We also have a tendency to do work ourselves. We can be ɡood leaders but we aren't the natural leaders ENTJs are.
Well said. I think far too many INTJ's are misunderstood and underappreciated. And unfortunately some INTJ play into the stereotype and cast a disheartening shadow on others in their personality circle. The goal of this podcast is to bring light to the strengths of each type, and INTJ's have many strengths to benefit the workplace.
I'm glad this was recommended to me 💕💕💕
knowing others is strength
knowing yourself is true power
Lao Tzu
INTJ here, for me it's not so much about success. It's about that long shot, from an idea to a physical result, such a long shot with so many variables and possibilities, yet somehow I made it happen. What a beautiful journey. I am obsessed with time. From movies, to physics, and how I make decisions is based on this concept of time. My favorite character would be Dr. Manhattan from "Watchmen". What an absolutely breath taking ability, to see not only into the future but also all of the possibilities that lead up to it.
What a pleasing podcast, thank you
INTJ here. One of the most accurately described videos I’ve seen in describing me. While there are some miss conceptions I believe my thoughts have been properly generalized in this video. Good job 👏
If an INTJ is fortunate enough to have somebody who understands them and happens to be a great communicator with great people skills, that person becomes extremely valuable to the INTJ. With that person, the INTJ now has a conduit with which to effectively communicate their plans and instructions to the world.
Действительно это так, у меня есть лучший друг с которым мне комфортней всего , и в плане общения мне с ним очень уютно и комфортно а с остальными я чувствую некую зажатость странное ощущение но общаться мне приятней больше с одним человеком которого понимаешь и он тебя понимает чем просто так и не понятно на какие темы или искать эти темы ради общения
My response to someone giving me praise is to question their sincerity and identify their true ulterior motive.
Good info! INTJ here. Totally agree to this video. Subscribed to you just now bro.
Are there any INTJ’s out there who wished they were ENTJ? Think about it, if you were E you could conquer the world and live forever like Napoleon, Caesar or Otto von Bismarck instead of being a hermit :)
Just kidding, I’m an INTJ myself, but sometimes I wish talking with people isn’t so damn energy draining for me, especially in the morning.
It's only draining because you have to apply so much force to dumb yourself down for everyone else.
Lol.... I've definitely wished that! When I read the functions, ENTJ was definitely appealing
I dont know if im entj or intj. I really dont know. At least ntj i know tht.
Yes me, i thought im the only one who thinks that. To be honest apart from me as an INTJ the ENTJs are people who deserve to succeed, i mean i would lie if i say we intj put a lot of effort more than ENTJ, but mostly i think we are to emotional thats why ENTJ is better
Napoleon is actually an INTJ. If he was ENTJ his group would of never left him.
Namaste! Being an INTJ as a wonen spells lots of trouble. Most men hate us and end up trying to control us with awful results. It also does not help to be attractive and well-spoken!!!!!
Unfortunately I cannot relate, except that I feel I am well-spoken. So many people are insecure. Many INTJ's carry an air of confidence about themselves and this can feel threatening to those who struggle with insecurity. Build others up, value their work, threat them with respect, but never apologize for your excellence!
I think Einsteins wife Malava fits this description
Einstein's wife Malava also a physicist struggled with suppression from men especially from Albert
This has to be the best video title ever!!
INTJ here. I dislike being in teams because I don't care about formalities and being friends, I want the job done as well as possible so I can go home. I expect you to play your role and get your job done without any management. If I feel you are dragging behind, my first inclination is to leave you. I trust in my own ability to move ahead and figure things out as I go along.
I'm open-minded to change as long as the person giving me that opinion is intelligent and has a track record of being consistent and dependable. I loathe incompetent people giving advice and opinions.I also dislike middle management and politics.
Prove to me that you deserve my most valuable resource, my time, and I will pay attention to you. If you have a history of fucking up, I won't say anything mean or seek revenge, but you're now a ghost to me.
I don't care where you went to school, your years of experience, or even your intelligence. I have this thing where people need to prove their merit through their actions to get my full attention and involvement. If they fail in this regard, I simply ignore them or I leave.
Instead of socializing I am constantly learning and improving my skillsets, most of the things I hear from others I have already learnt, long ago.
Here’s something I thought of that I hate as an intj. When you have years of knowledge on a subject and you say something out loud and some one shoots from the hip and tries to solve your problem with a fast twitch response. Then you say no that’s not gonna work. Then they shoot from the hip again. You shoot them down again and then you get frustrated and they don’t understand why you are frustrated. They think the problem you have is solvable by shooting from the hip. Like I’ve been working on this for years in my head and you think you’re just gonna solve it like that? What kind of problems do you think I’m working on here? Some quick response Solvable problems? What a low blow that is to your intelligence. Absolutely infuriating XD
The n is not capitalized.
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cgt2816 well yea
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"I have forgotten more than you will ever know" that's a really good quote. We INTJs are constantly learning things, more so than probably any other type just because of the fact that we're introverted combined with our cynical minds where we don't like people. We put great value on how competent we are and how much we know, but because of this and not liking most people, we get the idea that we are better than most people. The reason being is that even though we're egotistical, we make objective observations and decisions rather than being a sheep like the mass of people are who are easily manipulated and value their social life and living in the moment more than their inner identify. They're not driven to learn to improve like we are.
The best way I can describe an INTJ is imagine a serial killer pretending to care and putting on a mask. Not that we don't care, just EXTREMELY selective about who and why we should care. We are more like a hive mind computer/AI, thinking about things from every angle/objectively/coldly.
You associate INTJs with hive mind mentality? Off with her hea...... wait, what were you saying about serial killers?
We are not serial killers
A serial killer for killing problems :D
@@infinite0819you mean a, sierius killer?
Chuck Taylor... love your tennis shoes.
The "oil" analogy was a great idea.
Nice piece ... from an INTJ.
Thank you Daniel. We are glad you enjoyed it.
I am an INTJ but it really should be called an INTD with the D = Discerning
It's far more accurate and less negative
I hate when people refer to our type as things like "The genius". Like, you're not a genius for having a personality. That's only something someone could maybe say about you if you achieve something significant.
Hi Jacidio. Just as an FYI, this title is used to explain how other personality types often perceive how INTJ see themselves. You are correct that a personality type doesn't inherently have anything to do with your intelligence. However, it can have an impact on your approach to knowledge and information. And INTJ's approach gathering information and applying it quite differently than most other types. Thank you for your comment.
@@SagegardencareOrg Yeah no I wouldn't have doubted you understanding that really, it's just one of my own personal gripes with MBTI. Like I can't actually talk about it or share things most the time without a part of me feeling like I'm going "haw haw, look at me the genius, the mastermind", and I think those labels do the whole theory a disservice since most people don't bother scratching the surface coming across something new to them like this.
I'd much prefer it if we used the same terms as Socionics and refer to INTJ's as just "Intuitive, Logical Introverts", but that's just my own opinion, if you don't agree I'm not gonna burn your house down
@@jacidio4188 Thank you again for you thoughts. I think you intention is warranted and noble. In today's climate I think people gravitate to what they can quickly understand, hence my use of this term. I appreciate your insight however. And thank you for not burning down my house. I guess this is a real concern these days, huh? :)
@@SagegardencareOrg Thanks, and it's just a figure of speech than a legitimate concern
This was very insightful and useful. Most INTJ analyses paint us as supervillains for some reason. I especially appreciated the comparison of checking in with people emotionally to keeping a machine well-oiled. I've always believed that we're better off being guided by our heads rather than our hearts. The purpose of feelings never made much sense to me -- in fact, they often seemed like a distraction from getting anything worthwhile done -- but I have to accept that people navigate through life more by their emotions than their reasoning. I want to better understand myself and how I relate to others.
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It sure was exciting to have that INTJ logo glaring at me for 30 minutes, especially since this was supposedly taken from a podcast...
My life makes sense rn listening to this and in the most “I hate it” way possible. I changed my major from nursing to business/ accounting 2 yrs ago. Two months ago I walked out of my receptionist job bc I couldn’t understand why ppl were so sensitive and whiny.. (literally journaled, & tried to bring new ideas for me to ‘be better w ppl’ in order to solve the issue ppl b having) And Im in love w a guy who I sabotaged everything w bc I can’t let myself b w someone I can’t see myself eventually bringing home to my parents. So ya yay me
Lol I got fired from a job for telling my boss I could do 10x better a job than he would ever be able to do...then going into detail explaining how the company should be doing things
I was fed up at that point
Later on I found out they had actually implemented the majority of my ideas into company practice...well well
Sounds quite frustrating. Thank you for sharing.
Lol
I am a hard INTJ, but I apply my scalpels to emotions and have been able to be an excellent counselor and wear the mask of a sweet mother nurturing my teammates and staying out of the spotlight and propping up a figurehead. It works.
I've tested as an INTJ-A twice out of 2 times taking the test in the past 3 years. I identify with every single characteristic of this type. I'd like to know, do any other INTJ's feel like they are the best actor/actress in the world, just out of survival, in situations like work, social gatherings and phone calls?
Also, how do you cope with being divided in 2 essentially between being an analyst and being creative?
Early in my work life I began to realize that in jobs, I always feel like one side of me is severely neglected. I've settled on appealing to the strategist side in my career but feel like my creative side is suffocated, to the point that it's nearly soul-crushing.
Very INTENTIONAL.
6:10 - 6:32 is SO SO true
As an INTJ I want to say this video would be more pleasant with less laughter
Itll be great if this is available in spotify too.. please... 🙏 TIA! -INTJ-A
Great title for your video. :-) I never use that line about forgetting more than you will ever know, because as my wife tells me, "You never forget anything!" I wish it were true, though. She bought a coffee mug that says, "I don't need Google, I have my husband." I can't tell you how many times she has told me, "Where do you have room for all that stuff in your head?" We were watching a movie the evening before last and I pointed out an error in the movie and why it was wrong, and it generated one of those comments. I find that one of the biggest hurdles I have with getting past the "believability barrier" that must be passed through in order to enjoy fiction, is the unfortunate lack of research that many authors are guilty of.
I came to MBTI late in life, unfortunately. What it has given me is an explanation of why my life was the way it turned out to be. Looking back I now know why I was on the outside, and why didn't care that I was. (When I was a teenager there was a song on the billboard top 10, called "I'm in with the In Crowd," all about some socially hip moron who drew his value from the "cool" people who let him tag along like a sheep. I never understood that song, or why anyone would care about such a silly goal.) We can't choose how we were born, but I am glad I turned out to be an INTJ. I fully understand the state of being alone, and not being lonely. Only an introvert can properly appreciate that to the fullest. I also have been gifted with love, for I have an amazing ESTP wife of nearly 43 years and through her I have found the meaning of loneliness, whenever life has separated us (primarily through my job in the Navy).
In the Navy, I took a Leadership and Management course. That was a terrible mistake for the Navy in my opinion, because when I then checked onboard my next command, I found that all the things that the course taught were being devoutly ignored. But at the close of the course, the class was divided up into 4 groups and each group had to work together to create some form of presentation. INTJs do not like group activities generally, but I have found a work around that I applied to this event. I told the others in the group that I would do the entire thing, ALONE, if it was okay with them. They didn't want to do it anyway, and so it was all good. I took the 12 pillars of leadership that they put out during the course and I set them all to music (the theme from M*A*S*H, Suicide is painless) and I called it "Leadership is Painless." I brought my guitar in and performed the song for the class. For me it was the perfect solution. I didn't have to work with others. I could guarantee a good product for the presentation. I didn't have to socialize. I got up, did the song, and it worked just as I expected. The teacher wanted a copy of my lyrics, our group got top prize. My group was happy but the other 3 groups were whining because I did all the work. But that is what INTJs usually will do if you give them a chance. We love ideas and systems, but people, unfortunately tend to get in the way. So, we are viewed as weird, or anti-social, cold and unfeeling. It is well that they don't know what INTJs think in return I suppose. :-)
Your point about how an INTJ will react to a suggestion you might make was incomplete. I will even listen to a child, if he has a good suggestion. The reality is that usually your suggestion was already visualized and evaluated as being lacking for some reason or another. Therefore, rather than wasting time on explaining the idea's deficiencies, we will blow by it and keep moving. (People skills are not our forte.)
We want information and we want truth. If you want to slam the door between you and an INTJ, just lie to him. You're done.
When I was teaching I exhaustively went over my lecture before giving it, trying to come up with any and every question I could think of that a student might pose. And then I ran a good answer down for each of them. Then I was ready for more than most classes could come up with on their own. :-)
INTJs do not view themselves as superior, just self-contained. We evaluate our performance based upon our own standards, not other people's standards. People all to often look for that extroverted feeling caring from INTJs and are disappointed. But our allegiance to truth, and devotion to competence, still provides them what they want at the job. If an INTJ says he will do something, it will be done, it will be done well, and it will be done on time. We don't fit the extroverted norm, and we seldom act or react in the way "normal" people would. But how we act is logical and rational usually. I think that says more about the "normal" than it does about us. :-)
One final point, the redeeming grace about how INTJs are viewed by others, is that INTJs don't care, and so to us it really doesn't matter. :-)
Thanks for sharing this video!
Thank you for sharing. What a well thought out response with great examples, I and I am sure many others can relate to. You give good food for thought. I love the balance you have come to share with you ESTP wife. That sounds quite beautiful. Keep making the world a better place.
@@SagegardencareOrg Thank you! I am daily thankful for my lady. Our granddaughter is an interesting mix of the two of us. She is a power extrovert like my wife and filled with energy and a love for being with people. At the same time she loves to think, is reading a year ahead of the rest of her first grade class, and I am already able to discuss some algebra concepts with her. I am a very lucky man. Life has been very good to me in many ways.
Yeah.... pretty much on point.
Thank you for listening.
We think and see the problem in all angles, find solutions to future problems, basically have plans abcd and so on, and then create the optimized system that lasts.
Every word is true
I like it make sense 🥰
Accurate video
I am the smartest person in the room, and I never make mistakes. Prove me wrong and you will earn my respect for a lifetime. That's the kind of person I am, the INTJ.
You are mistyped INTJ then. Real INTJs know they can make mistakes even they not aware of. That is their way to grow.
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The Joke
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INTPs are the smartest person in the room. INTJ may be known as the "Mastermind" but INTPs are Godmind.
Its called "PREMEDITATED THINKING"!!!!
Nice. 😆
What a bizarre thought. You must be one of them weirdos.
@@AustinPowerz-bn5ry u have an enegram pfp wtf
Steve Jobs story, priceless! Yes, this beautifully illustrates a commitment to the success of the whole
the story as depicted here is not true.
If there where another way of doing it I would have already thought about it. :D word for word...
Any other INTJs here also have Asperger's?
That’s interesting you said that. I am a female INTJ As well and have always speculated I might have Aspergers...
@@chucktaylor6305 I have Asperger's and I am an INTJ personality type so I was curious if there is a pattern there. Actually, most other Aspies that I know have told me that they type as INFJ.
@@chucktaylor6305 Thanks for replying and also for this video.
Such a Te/Fi conversation - lol
I do.
This is what I always tested as.
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One problem I have as an INTJ is that a lot people think of me as arrogant, when I’m really just painfully blunt.
For example, when someone questions a claim I make, I always ask "Well, how can I be wrong?". This is not a rhetorical question to assert my intellectual dominance. I didn’t say that because I think that others can’t challenge my intellect, but rather the opposite. I said that because I seriously just want them to tell me how I can be wrong. I want them to tell me where I’ve made mistakes so I can fix them asap
Yes yes yes that is what i think all the time ,does any one cares about these issues as much I care a bout these issues
To the part of the discussion about feelings, I’ve actually been able to identify emotional patterns and discover roots in people to leverage situations and move them to desired outcomes. I can’t speak for other INTJ’s, but I think a large part of avoiding/minimizing emotions is that they’re difficult to quantify. But this is where developing empathy can help bridge communication barriers between INTJ’s and other types.
Of course- this only works when people are actually willing to take an honest look at themselves. But it helps me identify who is emotionally stable enough to interact with and who to avoid.
My good old friend Jules Winfield once said:
"I thought so"
after looking at the title
im an INTJ... and i agree
A little correction to a descriptive comment about INTJ folks. It's not that we are purely 'creative' in our thought processing in a particular area or on a particular item, as we rarely invent anything brand new. What we excel at, is the great ability to take what already exists, be it an object or theory, and to dissect and analyse what ever it is, and make it better. That is, much more efficient and practical for OTHERS with-in society, to use. This is, if you like, our (INTJ's) function, within that same society.
Bro. your tennis shoes rock!
2:45 seconds in, and nailed it.
"I've forgotten more than you'll ever know." I have said something like this since high school, out of frustration mostly. I forget things three times before you even pick it up for the first time. In school, classes are designed terribly. They're designed to teach someone who doesn't think logically how to do math. Why? Can we teach them logic first? The first five chapters in a Calculus book aren't even what you need to know. It's stages in a process to get you to understanding the equation that is applicable. I went to college when I was 15 with 14th grade level understanding. I'm not saying this to brag, this is a testament to how low our standards are with education.
honestly I hate it when people tell me when I think too much....I feel so alone