This $500 USED PC kicks butt!! Budget Gaming!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- In this episode of "buying used PCs for cheap" I found a solid deal on a used prebuilt... but was it worth the price?
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I have a hard time letting any PC go to waste. 7 years ago I built my mom a regular use non-gaming PC with an Intel G4400 Pentium. I recently built her a new AM5 build and didn’t have it in me to throw it away. I upgraded the CPU for $50 to a i7 7700k, threw in 16gb of ram for $15, and bought a 1060 6GB on FB for $35. Now it’s a 1080p gaming PC for my daughter’s room, and Netflix, TH-cam, school work, etc. Rinse and reuse! Haha.
😊 im kinda the same way, i revisit my old computers and see what i can do to upgrade them a bit more or at the very least move her over into a new case
Literally looking at my old a10 5700 and that thing ran alll the games to a certain point.
@@CriticalLagg 😊 i picked up two am3 gaming builds this weekend, video is going up today
Couldnt agree more i find more value keeping the older pcs i have then selling them for dirt cheap compared to og cost
1 - You were not scammed
2 - Amazing boost of performance after a little love / caring and tweaking
3 - Yes, I want to see how you will upgrade this PC. And I do not mind if you make it using second hand parts. I will really enjoy this as I have build recently the third PC for my little girl from mostly leftovers (old parts), and I am still amazed how fine this computer works for a 8 years old girl. She is playing and doing the homework on that same PC.
PS - Please do a video if you can play 4k games on an old Intel I 7700K on a custom liquid cooled loop today.
Greetings from Romania.
Randomgaminginhd did a video on that exact CPU 4 days ago,only difference is it's not water cooled
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4k game with 7700 😮 hold cpu not realy good for 4k game 1440p or 1080p ok
@@christopherbussiere4415 uhh...that's not how it works with CPUs
@@theanglerfish Im surprised you even understood what he said lol
Windows license is probably digitally linked to the motherboard. Simply use Windows install USB and see if Windows becomes active again by means of a digital key linked to the motherboard
Smart just what i thought...:)
.. and i hhaatee that its tied to the motherboard.
Only an OEM licence is attached to a motherboard. The easiest way to find out which of 3 types of licence you have (OEM - FPP - Volume) just check in CMD as admin. But this system doesn't look OEM to me? And he didn't change the mobo anyway..
Edit: the command - " slmgr -dli " or " slmgr /dlv "
Could use SPECCY to get the Windows key and try to manually activate it. Before reformatting a system i always do that just in case.
@@lyianx There are other licenses you can get. I change motherboards almost every 6 months and just add the cost of a digital license to the build (24 bucks Canadian).
4:13 "like old 9th gen"
Me on 8th gen 🥲
Haha I'm on 4th gen 😂
Ayyy me too 😂@@ryanwestfall5385
I miss my 9900k that I sold sometime ago.
I used to use an i5-4400. Never really got CPU bottle-necked though
Intel I5-6500 right now :(
Jay probably watched a couple fix or flop episodes by Greg Salazar when he tried to power on the system without any cables connected😂.
The more you do this stuff, the easier it is to forget to plug it in... had my fair share of heart attacks cleaning friends pc's and forgetting to flick the psu switch on 🤣🤣🤣
I fully agree with you about not trusting any OS I didn't install. Even on brand new prebuilts and laptops I support for family, the FIRST thing I do is install Windows from scratch, from MY media.
Agreed. I learned the hard way.
The thing is though with Prebuilts is you might not be able to update certain things if its HP or dell and you cant enable XMP you can only buy XMP Ram
@@RedBeardedJoe the mistake was buying HP and DELL pc's
@@paprikagames Not when those are the only choices in many cases. I needed to get laptops for my parents. I needed something inexpensive without being so cheap they'd only last a year. I got them Dell Ryzen 5700U based laptops, and they've been going for almost 4 years now, and will likely still be good enough for another couple years.
Of course, first thing I did when I got those was format the drives and reinstall Windows from scratch to get rid of the bloatware Dell likes to put on.
@@asksearchknock Unfortunately, the infected bios is responsible for flashing the new bios, so even reflashing cannot guarantee a clean PC. Supply chain attacks suck. If your threat model means you need to worry about that, you need an external chip flasher that can connect to the soldered flash storage and flash it that way, or pull the chips off the board and slot them into a chip flasher.
imagine showing up to a meet to sell your pc and then you recognize Jay trying to lowball you
For those of you who are new to this channel, a spinny Drive is a hard disk drive... not a solid state drive. It has platters that spin around and around and around and store data. Also known as a mechanical drive.
😒👍 20 TB FTW
@@MrSamadolfo Im running a 8TB Spinner on mine
@@CCM1199 😊 Nice, buy more
AKA as spinning rust by some.
Still have a 2TB spinner in my rig, serving as general storage/game drive.
I have a 4 TB WD Black as a "scratch drive". Stuff goes and leaves on that drive all the time. Nice to have around, personally, but I also remember the days of 20GB 5400RPM drives being a good buy, and the 7200RPM variants being the stuff of gods to some people. I think I'll go find my AARP card now.......🤣🤣🤣
Well, i too thought i was getting scammed with this 5800x NZXT h510i build that was only 300 bucks.. only a few upgrades were needed and were practically free by selling the old components. Upgraded the 580 with a 180 dollar 6600 from micro center, Also a Thermalright Peerless Assassin and im a happy man once again! Great Video Jay!
That was a heck of a deal
Im going to Microcenter this afternoon
@@Dan-Simms I thought so as well! Dont know why they were selling it but i snagged it fast! haha
@@MrSamadolfo Sweet! what are you thinking about getting?
@@Shmacckin 😏 im picking up a Limited Edition Coolermaster TD500 case with Street Fighter 6 emblems Chun Li its a white case with 4 argb case fans, ill make a review of it when i get home so bookmark me 😎
LOL "Cause there's dust all over it" ::Me sitting here looking at my dusty ass PC that I try to clean once a week comapring it to what almost looks abnormally clean::
Brother, I built my system last year and haven't thoroughly cleaned it at all...just the filters...didn't even apply new paste (used the preapplied stuff on my AIO). Gonna have to eventually though, have some kryonaut I've been wanting to shmoo on my i9.
Keep the PC up in the air. Not on the floor :)
Your floor is ALWAYS going to clog a PC no matter what. I keep my PC about 7 feet up on a desk cabinet, and run the cables down the back. Air up there is FAR less dusty.
I use to leave my PC by my feet, and after about 2 years, the PC was CRAMMED full of hairs and so much dust, cat fur, etc. that the front fan could barely pull air, if any at all.
@@Surms41 Solid advice. I have a fairly large case (NZXT H700i) and live in a semi-small apartment so my options are limited as to where I can put it, but I did get a stand to take it off of the floor since its carpeted. Unfortunately, my dog likes to lay right next to it when it's under load 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Surms41 Just clean it regularly and you don't have a problem. Also don't smoke and vape near it.
@@Gigaheart Well, with my PC up there, I vape into it all the time, and after it being up there, still very very minimal dust, even on my 1070FE blower fan after 4 years since last cleaning.
Great video Jay, thank you for taking the time and putting together these detailed examples of what's possible out there.
Also its recommended to Zero out and secure erase SSD's in order to release the cells that have been used and have been written over. You essentially erase any residual data and clear those cells to gain performance.
I buy and sell PC's in OC too, My listings are all in Irvine / Laguna Niguel area. Some builds are completely brand new with parts bought from my connects. I'm a full time nurse and this is the only hobby I have at the moment and its been such a stress reliever. My goal is be able to provide aesthetically pleasing builds without skimping out to performance that would also not break people's banks. OFC I do high end builds too but I feel like my prices are very competitive for the quality of PC's I make. I hope you run into my builds on FBM on of these days! Much Love
14:45 - That could also be because the previous owner has locked in a preferred specific release version, eg. for Win10 I don't allow the system to upgrade beyond 22H2. Plenty of references online on how to do this.
I don't allow any version of Windows anywhere near any of my computers! Every PC I buy used, or someone gives to me, the first thing I do is nuke windows and Install Linux!
Windows10 22H2 is the last version, only security patches after that
If you have Pro you can do it with Group Policy Manager. I have all my Win 10 set to 22H2 so it doesn't nag me to install Windows 11
@@longjohn526 Exactly. Or one can edit the Registry. Bryan of Tech Yes City has a good guide on how to strip down Win10.
@@Bob-of-ZoidThat's fine if you enjoy suffering.
Thanks for making these kinds of video Jay. At least your still in touch of your audience and reality, unlike other channels that just keep pumping videos showing tech that are extremely expensive and impractical. Keep it up, Love your work.
Please keep doing more of these used PC videos!
In order to use MSI afterburner you need to add this command in the launch option menu to make the monitoring work with cs2 "-allow_third_party_software"
This is such a great and informative video. This is the kind of content we want, not clickbait drama fake outrage 'journalism' bullshit. Thanks Jay!
Super great vid & 100% yes to the upgrade video. Great series and that perf uplift by flipping 3 setting is crazy.
Love these types of videos. Definitely want to see the upgrades in future videos.
On the subject of used, be aware of the win 10 end of life upcoming next October. Verify the used pc is win11 compatible, Intel gen 8+. There will be tons of older pcs showing up for this very reason.
I thought all win10 licenses could be converted to 11
@sherrydowns4052 the licenses can, but the hardware needs to be compatible. I still find people using computers made for win 7 updated to win 10, 4gb ram and working stupid slow. Core 2 duels and pentium versions of it.
Everyone arguing that people still using old OS's and don't have any issues but they literally just did a demonstration the other day of a Windows XP PC that was connected to the internet and was literally so infected it shut down within hours...
Rufus will let you create a win 11 bootable that will install just fine on unsupported systems.
@@GOPACKERSJT yeah but sometimes the updates in the future will break.
I love it when you do these videos.
Love these videos, looking forward to seeing the upgrade paths.
This seller was dancing with that $500
i got a great deal on some parts and i now have a 300 euro pc that can run cyberpunk on ultra quick preset at about 32 fps (RX 580 8gb that cost me 40 euros). I feel like many people underestimate older parts
RX580 8gb a great little card.
30 min video? Grabbing my chips
Great video, looking forward for the parts upgrade video
Fabulously insightful! It seems like a great deal, and yep carry on with your project exploration on this guys!
You can use XTU or ThrottleStop to increase those power limits as well as the boost time to get performance close to a stock 11700K if the BIOS doesn't let you play with the power limits. But the first upgrade that system needs is a better CPU cooler. Regardless, that's a good deal for $550 and they left money on the table.
Change the My Documents And Downloads folder to the spinning drive. That really helps with space on a NVME as the system gets used.
I uae a 2tb nvme. My system supports 4 nvme, I think I should add a second one as my 1tb sata is nearly full of movies/music
@@ryanhampshire7042why not move the media ( usually not worth compressing stuff like images and videos) on HDD. you can get really high density ones.
@@ryanhampshire7042why not move the media ( usually not worth compressing stuff like images and videos) on HDD. you can get really high density ones.
@@ryanhampshire7042 I would get another 1 tb SATA and split the movies and music to their own and name the drive accordingly rather than a letter.
Loving this style of video. Currently selling off some older PC's and parts that I don't use anymore. Realizing that even some of the older ones (~7-8yrs) can still play modern games at 1080p very well. Looking forward to the upgrade path videos
Great vid! Love these videos. Let the upgrades begin!!
Great series, I'd love to see the upgrade path you take with it. cheers.
Coming soon!
@@JayztwocentsHi Jay, my PC is an i7 12700k with Frostflow 240xt water cooling. Asus rog strix z690-a d4 gaming wifi 32gb ram 3200Mhz also rtx 3070ti. 1TB sn 850x drives, Samsung 980 pro GB. Corsair icue 465x chassis. Cooler master 850w v2 complete modular power supply. Hopefully soon I can take the step to ddr5 and go to Arrow Lake
Once a month marketplace monday???? Love these videos
Marketplace Monday lol! Love it.
Love this format.
!. Very interesting video for me, it'd be nice to watch another one for the upgrades on this build. Thanks!😊
Adding CPU cores temps/usages/frequencies to that gpu graph during games would be really great (to check what frequency it runs during longer game).
Test the new 3Dmark benchmark on it "Steel Nomad"
I've been using Steel Nomad. Awesome new edition to the suite.
I had a second thought too. Steel Nomad is brand new. This was probably filmed a few days ago. I'm sure we will get a Steel Nomad video soon.
Love the content and upgrades.
Great Buy J and yes do the Parts list to build from scrach and upgrade Parts VID TOO
Hi Jay! Have a great day!
It's ok, definitely upgrade the cooler.
I'd be a proper cheapskate about it and try better paste first. It could just be some crappy no name product holding the stock cooler back.
@@diegoleiva7242 Thermal paste barely matters. Expensive paste won't make a shit cooler better.
@@md_vandenberg in my experience, true bottom tier paste and/or improper application can really ruin a CPU's thermals. We're assuming the application is correct, it could well not be at all. I'd probably end up swapping the cooler anyway but I'd try some top tier paste first because why not.
Excellent Vid. More of this please.
I used to buy and sell used computers all the time back in the day. But even when I was on a super tight budget, if I was going to use that computer personally, I kept enough money to buy a new hard drive, or I used a hard drive that I'd bought for a previous computer. I never used the drives that I got with a used computer. This video reminds me of when I used to go to a city trash dumping location when we were doing work, and while I was there I'd raid the electronics recycling pile for computer hardware. People would throw away perfectly good stuff. I pulled a working 9600gt from a computer not even a year after they'd been released.
That squish sound lol
Your self-defense piece is a knife? Dude, just get a P365 or something.
California though
@@Matthew_Campbell_Drums P365 is California legal.
Lol notm8n commiforina
@@THEMANCAVE2023 California isn't communist 🙄
@@nuclearchef-san8304 don't be a fudd, polymer-framed striker nines are fine.
Yes would like see where this goes. Good idea for a series.
Another great find, yes please show the upgrade on this one.
The lack of support for perfectly good hardware running windows 11 means there should be a bunch of it going cheap or even free when mainstream windows 10 support ends.
Yep - and remember, those PCs can run OTHER operating systems!
@@eskieman3948 Ones that happily run Steam games!
It can be stuck on 21H2 because it does not meet the hardware requirements. I have several that were fine to go to Win 11 from 10, but Microsoft has changed the requirements and removed some hardware from the list. I have a couple of laptops and a desktop that will no longer update even though they met the requirements to go to Win 11. There is some kind of instruction they have implemented that older processors are not compatible with. It is irritating that MS keeps moving the goal and forcing you to purchase new hardware to get updates even though the older hardware works just fine.
You may have a good point. I bought an iBuyPower BB993 w/I7-10700K that should have been definitely able to run Windows 11.... but Windows said no! Solution: had to perform a BIOS update, and now it's good. However, I'm hearing more and more about PCs that cannot be updated to meet Windows 11 requirements. Between this issue, and Microsoft jamming AI CoPilot down out throats, I'm starting to look at other computer/computer OS alternatives.
There could probably be a lawsuit over the windows 11 requirements. It relegates millions of perfectly good computers to the scrap heap. It’s very anti consumer and very bad for the environment.
I have an MSI Katana laptop running a I7-12700H that's stuck at 21H2.
Great video, would love to see the next one!
I like this type of video, especially buying from the second hand market and seeing what happens and what you get.
That awkward moment when the old computer has better specs than my current PC....
I’m planning on upgrading to something like what is in this video.
I feel you bro.
MY spidey senses say scammed
My grotesque beard says the same.
Nice to see you go this route. Some underrated price performance deals are about.
I love this series and hope it shows people new to PCs that a) PC gaming isn't something that is complicated and always costs an arm and a leg and b) You can still run a lot of stuff on older hardware
I saw a gaming PC on Facebook Marketplace, water-cooled 13900K, air-cooled 4090, 64GB or RAM, 2TB Evo, all for $1k. Seemed too good to be true, so didn't bother.
Sometimes a person just needs money and they sell cheap i remember a friend buying a 72 AMC Javlin for 200.00 just because the person needed fast money.
On the other hand you could have missed out big time.
@@ffwast more likely he got robbed at gunpoint for ther 1k cash he had on him
@@Desalater2 Eh where I live the police department has a staffed area open 24/7 where you can do trades like this.
@@Desalater2 tbf you should only ever do trades in a crowded area with lots of foot traffic or in front of a police station
Great work Jay
I would love to see a cheap upgrade. Good content thank you.
Great video! There are always deals to be had everywhere.
Case in point.
Yesterday my kid was shopping around for a gaming rig. Our local shop had a repaired rig for 1000 euros. I told the kid our budget was a mere 800 euros. Then the kid told me the description of the rig was wrong on the label. So I asked are you sure? And the kid said sure. I decided to trust my kid and show respect for his knowledge and invest over his allowance. The clerk said after scanning the label: you are in luck, this rig is down to 850 euros but a limited full warranty for 6 months. So we took it home. Here is the set up.
Hydro cooling. 6 fans with blinking LEDs. Win 10 but I think win 11 compatible. 500 gb nvme drive. Intel® Core™ i7-13700K Processor. RX 7900 XT OC. Asus PRIME Z790-P wifi motherboard. 800 watts gold MSI PSU I think. 32 gb ddr5 ram. Fortunately the kid had the creative external sound card x g6 which meant more savings. All in all the kid plays the games in full graphics and is preparing to invest in a monitor for Christmas. Go out there deals are to be found! Cheers
That's a steal for the GPU alone
🙂fair deal, check and update the bios every weekend, our boards are getting major revisions to adjust the default cpu settings on volts and watts
lowball a bunch of people..
yeah thats the world of used parts.. im liking this jayz
This is really interesting, I like this video idea. Make it into a series
would definitely love to see an upgrade video!
I love to see another video about this PC with upgrading it.
Great find for the money, a few expansion paths for upgrading, and with you talking through the logic of why you choose which parts I think the next video will be great. Also get a fresh OS asap lol
Definietly do upgrades on it, will be fun, maybe used parts too? Thx for the great content!
Waiting to see NotebookCheck write a second article calling out another TH-camr on the $500 PC build because "if its used hardware, then its a fail".
Good stuff, looking forward to the next one
I used to run Windows Vista (still my favourite Windows version) on a SATA SSD, and it booted in about 15 seconds. 🙂
Thank you, Jay! I didn't know FSR Sharpening did that film grain look in Cyberpunk! I have a 7900 XT and I ran custom settings with either Ultra RT or I think it's Overdrive but was getting the film grain so I turned down RT and turned FSR off entirely for similar performance. I will be honest for having "bad" RT performance I loved how my 7900 XT performed in that game. I really need to buy Phantom Liberty eventually and do a second play-through.
Hi Jay. Thanks for making content that mirrors reality for the majority of your user base. Kudos! 😎
Can't wait to see what you can do with the on an upgrade path
Great video! Please do another video showing what can be upgraded and the cost. :)
im glad ur feeling better
And your nice AUDI is also super clean inside 👌 and freshly detailed ❤
Literally my first pc. I5 11400f with rx 6650 mech2 same storage, same case
😊 coincidence, i have the same cpu, im giving it a new case
Ya..!!! Resonable upgrade options...Go Jay..!!!!!
That ad for the Y70 at the end had an extreme touch of Project Farm and I'll never unhear it lmfao
i have this motherboard and this actually helped so much thanks for making this video
What a great time to build a PC
if you do more of these parking lot deals, it might worth investing in a small 500W inverter and having a screen in the trunk so you can actually plug the pc in and check if it runs
That was a REALLY great deal for that PC! I'd love to see how you upgrade it. Me personally i'd just move the front fans up to the top for now to get better airflow in that case and a better CPU cooler like a Vetroo V5 or something
Scented oil candles will leave a residue on the fane blades & components as well. Easy clean!
Yes, I want to see that upgrade.
Awesomesauce video Jay, Phil and Nic!
I think a great video idea is swapping the CPU cooler in this order to see the magnitude of increases.
Veetro V5, then Veetro U6 Pro, and lastly, Veetro's 360 AIO.
Caffeinator out.
Yes! My crazy years old i7 3820 ( old performance x79 platform) could still hold its own in modern games, of course not the fastest but it's not like it chugs either, especially if paired with a respectable gpu, I only upgraded for more pci express lanes, m.2, nvme, pci express 3, 4 etc. My performance with a sata 3 samsung 840 evo on that system was still very snappy.
One thing you can do with a used windows pc to avoid using a potentially compromised windows install or buying a new key is to get the key of the current install and then use that when re-installing from known good.
I think a video on upgrading would be great. Showing the idea of, you first built/bought a pc few years ago that wasn't top end but upgradable and what you can get with it a few years later with some upgrades sounds like a helpful vid for those who maybe can't afford their top end now but want to upgrade in say 2 years.
28:15 I wanna point out, I get 90+ FPS on HD2 with many things on high settings on my 2070 Super. The game just performs really well
Love This!! - less shiny shiny - more framey framey .... used hardware is just as good! (bought a Dell M6300 Quadro for a 3rd of it's new and used it for 10 years more ... until died! - the screen I missed so much 16:10 2K ... stuff you can't always get new now!) Re-use awesome tech! :)
Personally, I thought this was a great video! I've been wanting to upgrade my old desktop for a long time and never thought about going the "used PC" route. You gave me a lot to think about on this one. Looking forward to a possible upgrade video down the road.
4:20 "old 9th gen" definitely hits me right in the CPU socket, still running my 9750H 2060 laptop
I'm excited to see what's next for this PC.
1 - Windows keys are activated by Hardware ID or stored in a Microsoft account, reinstalling Windows without a key will activate once connected to the internet as long as you install correct version. In this case Windows 10/11 Home.
2 - The previous owner likely stripped Defender, so it may not be a cracked version. I agree fresh install of Windows is the way forward.
3 - Windows 11 21H2 is EOL so you won't see updates, however why it's not getting 22H2 or 23H2 would require troubleshooting but not work the effort when it's better to reinstall Windows.
Wanted to point this out for clarity for viewers wanting to go this route.
Thanks!
I really enjoy these videos. With prices increasing across the board for parts my 2018 AM4 is probably going have to be upgraded in small ways to keep it going for the next few years. Luckily my 2700x cpu isn't a bottleneck for the gpu yet.
😅 i just picked up 2 AM3+ rigs
i know this has nothing to do with this video but watching your videos over the years help me build my very first custom water loop pc. Wanted to say thanks for all the tips.
I haven't even watched the video yet, but Jayz' face in the thumbnail immediately got me.
First of all,Jay thought the PC was dirty, I would hate to show him my PC which hasn't been clean since I built it seven years ago! But I have a much better cooler on my i7-6700k CPU which really is an improvement over a stock cooler and I would recommend upgrading this one. I don't play any demanding games like Jay does, but I do like watching videos on TH-cam so my setup is fine with me.
Big fan of this content.